Pretty sure all the "pith xxx" rats like the one on that kill only sapwn inside of anoms/sites while the ones on the gates are "Guristas xxx". It also does not have an entosis link so it's not a troll ceptor. Are you discussing experience with the new SOV system or ratter hunting again?

The purpose of the e-link is to show that you have control of the grid. You don't have that control if you have to be on a hair trigger to warp or burn away at any moment. Thus, I propose that the e-link should prevent the use of both the warp drive and a microwarp drive, when active.

Afterburner too, I assume?

I've had yet another, different idea - prevent Entosis fitted ships from getting further way from a contested node than the range of their Entosis link, kinda like a reverse POS shield. That way the ships are able to use their prop mods appropriately for combat, but they cannot burn off in a straight line. So an interceptor with a T1 could not get more than 25 km away.

The purpose of the e-link is to show that you have control of the grid. You don't have that control if you have to be on a hair trigger to warp or burn away at any moment. Thus, I propose that the e-link should prevent the use of both the warp drive and a microwarp drive, when active.

You know that a system is bad when mining is more rewarding game play than chasing away sov trolls. At least you get something with mining.

But for the guy running the link, it's kind of like ice mining in reverse. You're putting the stront back.

Let's not Post Any more kill mails On general Discussion, Thanks. That is for Crime and punishment.

You know that a system is bad when mining is more rewarding game play than chasing away sov trolls. At least you get something with mining.

My experience for far has only been with cleaning up unanswered trolling events. And cleaning up after these is a bother. But perhaps they need to be bothersome, to encourage people to react to the initial flip.

So far, in my opinion, the general consensus in most fleets seems to be.... this sucks. I tend to agree the amount of organization/work just to perform the save is larger than the initial trolling action. Now I can come up with reasons why this is good and bad. But, for me, it is hard to really comment on this new system until there is an actual real invasion attempt.

Overall I think the system has merits. The initial flip might be a little to open to trolls. But as I suggested, this can be good and bad. Having been one of the people involved with cleaning up after a troll event, I can definitely.... yawn. But hey... these events would not have happened, most likely could not have happened under the old mechanism. And as people realize how bothersome the cleanup is, the less chance they will occur unanswered. Unless of course, they should not own the space in question.

Now... we just need to see it action. Enough of these trolling events. I want to see a full blown old fashioned organized invasion with defenders who can defend themselves. I know, wishful thinking.

Note: These are my opinions and my opinions alone. They in no way reflect the thoughts of anyone else.

But how are you going to see full action deployment invasion when you blue ball everyone, pay off people to go away and are not willing to deploy yourself to look for content? Thats another one of your coalition cause and effect. Dont blame eve or CCP for it. Beside we are the only game in towm in the north at the momment.
CCP wants to encourate small warfare. Fozzy sov does that. If it did not, you will not be here complaining. This does not mean that the large battle wont happen, but if you keep blue balling, its your coalition fault only.

It's kind of hard to blueball when there's nothing even remotely credible as a threat for 50 jumps. I think the word you were looking for is blobbing. You guys keep getting your buzzwords mixed up.

Let's not Post Any more kill mails On general Discussion, Thanks. That is for Crime and punishment.

Ok, how about "FoMiPuMaLe SOV?"

What you regard as "trolling" to me is a genuine attack/herass to an IHUB, TCU or a Station.

If you were living in it, this would not happen. Simple.

Why? The person doing so has no desire to actually take the space or the structure. They're merely abusing the extremely low bar for the attacker that CCP has set.

Sounds like trolling to me.

So, I ask you this. Why should anyone without a desire to actually commit to an attack be allowed to do so in the first place?




It happens whether you were living in it or not. It literally doesn't matter, because you still have to go play whack a mole with interceptors one way or the other.

Nevermind that, in doing so, you are forced to devote a great deal of your time per day chasing those broken ships. And, I should point out, that while you're doing so, you aren't living in your space either, or doing anything with your space. You're either babysitting every structure in your entire alliance, or chasing down the most broken hulls in the game.

It happens whether you were living in it or not. It literally doesn't matter, because you still have to go play whack a mole with interceptors one way or the other.

Nevermind that, in doing so, you are forced to devote a great deal of your time per day chasing those broken ships. And, I should point out, that while you're doing so, you aren't living in your space either, or doing anything with your space. You're either babysitting every structure in your entire alliance, or chasing down the most broken hulls in the game.

I dont see it as an abuse.

Why is it obligatory to take it?

Front lines are meant to be attacked not carebear heaven area.

You dont have to baby sit your entire alliance, but only the systems that are you can protect without over extending.

Now you mentioned that it happens when you are living in it or not. Well if it happens in a system where you are living in, then well you did not bother with it, its your fault.

Of course YOU don't. Most people don't have the ability to look at something honestly, if said thing benefits them, or even seems to benefit them.




This right here. That's why it's trolling.




Then go kill somebody, don't fly around in an interceptor with no freaking guns.




And I suppose your definition of "over extending" is "not having five people per system on hand to chase down interceptors instead of actually playing the game or using their space".

That's not local conflict. That's babysitting. And that's not fun, engaging gameplay.

So its trolling to attack and not take sov when all I do is gorrilla warfare?

Definition of extending is having sufficient numbers to cover the defence of the system.

If you get constantly attacked in a system by 20 and you only got 5, well...you are over gunned.

Defend what you think is yours or lose it to a someone that wants it more than you do!

When it happens in space you are living in, you still have to chase down the interceptor. You still have to waste your time chasing a pilot designed for evasion who has no intention of taking the sov.

Simply put, if you have no intention of taking the sov and refuse to commit enough to actually take the sov, then attacking it should mean nothing. It's much like how if I go to an online POS and start shooting it with a frigate I'm not going to be able to take it down whether the owner intervenes or not. This should be the same. If you don't want to commit a realistic amount to contest sov, you shouldn't need to be considered a threat.

FozzySov is meant to give a small bonus to smaller entities to be able to face a larger one.

Why should you get to keep space you dont use?