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Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
2505
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Posted - 2016.01.19 15:57:56 -
[4171] - Quote
I like how everybody is trying to pin the losses of subs on their pet reason instead of thinking that maybe everybody is partially right and every single one of those reasons caused some losses.
200+ pages of everyone thinking they have the only good answer... |
Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat
FETID
2309
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Posted - 2016.01.19 15:59:21 -
[4172] - Quote
its amazing how they can publicly announce a ganking event with months of time to prepare and still get that many kills...it is really amazing how ignorant people can be, its not like they hide the fact they are shutting down a system yet so many people still just go about there daily routine without a care then moan when they die during a publicly announced killing event. its not the game or the gankers fault its the victims fault.
you just dont drive a bentley through a riot.
"Yeah. Put your tears in a jet can and leave them on your undock for your assailants to pick up. If they're camping you, I'm sure they're going to get thirsty." - Darth Squeemus
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King Aires
Chicks on Speed
Mordus Angels
115
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Posted - 2016.01.19 15:59:25 -
[4173] - Quote
Frostys Virpio wrote:I like how everybody is trying to pin the losses of subs on their pet reason instead of thinking that maybe everybody is partially right and every single one of those reasons caused some losses.
200+ pages of everyone thinking they have the only good answer...
Or you can't read at all.
I have been asking for 3 pages now why we are even arguing about ganking since it is completely off topic. |
Jenn aSide
Ascendent.
Test Alliance Please Ignore
13393
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Posted - 2016.01.19 16:08:14 -
[4174] - Quote
King Aires wrote:
and every thread Jenn posts in turns into a "You should leave because you don't like the game" thread.
I have told you no such thing ever. Whether you are here or not is on you.
I am questioning the sanity of such actions. It's like i told my ex-sister in law, I'm not telling you you can't date that guy (because you're grown, I'm not your legal guardian lol), I'm telling you that you KNOW he's a d-bag, you had better options, and the unhappiness you are experiencing right now (that you are crying on your sister's and my shoulders about) is 100% your own doing...because you knew he was a d-bag.
You know you don't like a huge segment of the EVE online community. You know you don't like CCP and their "typical actions". You know you have an issue with major parts of EVE's gameplay. But you still pay CCP some form of payment, and you are still here.
What makes it irritating is that you can seem to point out the flaws in others, but the big huge glaring insanity that is you gets ignored . Some how those of us who actually like the game we are paying for are the weird ones to you and your type... |
Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
7079
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Posted - 2016.01.19 16:14:15 -
[4175] - Quote
Jenn aSide wrote:I have told you no such thing ever. Whether you are here or not is on you.
I am questioning the sanity of such actions. What you do is you try to twist it so it seems that the person either has to leave or be labelled "stupid" or "insane" as you've already done in this thread. The reality is that people can like a game but still have problems with it and you either can't comprehend this or pretend you can't to push your narrative. Either way the fault lies with you.
The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog.
Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list.
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Jenn aSide
Ascendent.
Test Alliance Please Ignore
13393
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Posted - 2016.01.19 16:26:59 -
[4176] - Quote
Lucas Kell wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:I have told you no such thing ever. Whether you are here or not is on you.
I am questioning the sanity of such actions. What you do is you try to twist it so it seems that the person either has to leave or be labelled "stupid" or "insane" as you've already done in this thread. The reality is that people can like a game but still have problems with it and you either can't comprehend this or pretend you can't to push your narrative. Either way the fault lies with you.
You said Elite was more fun. Is that why you have more posts in this thread than you do on the entire Elite forum?
The real truth here is you just like to be miserable, and you like to argue every bit as much as Tippia does, and playing a game you don't really like gives you both. This is relevant here because your eternal crusade for the changing of EVE Online isn't because EVE has issues, it's because you can't accept that EVE doesn't really fit your entertainment needs.
Put another way, I'm not the weird one, I pay for a game I adore, which is mostly filled with people I like or can at least tolerate, made by a company that isn't perfect but is head and shoulders better than the rest of the gaming industry.
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King Aires
Chicks on Speed
Mordus Angels
116
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Posted - 2016.01.19 16:38:41 -
[4177] - Quote
Jenn aSide wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:I have told you no such thing ever. Whether you are here or not is on you.
I am questioning the sanity of such actions. What you do is you try to twist it so it seems that the person either has to leave or be labelled "stupid" or "insane" as you've already done in this thread. The reality is that people can like a game but still have problems with it and you either can't comprehend this or pretend you can't to push your narrative. Either way the fault lies with you. You said Elite was more fun. Is that why you have more posts in this thread than you do on the entire Elite forum? The real truth here is you just like to be miserable, and you like to argue every bit as much as Tippia does, and playing a game you don't really like gives you both. This is relevant here because your eternal crusade for the changing of EVE Online isn't because EVE has issues, it's because you can't accept that EVE doesn't really fit your entertainment needs. Put another way, I'm not the weird one, I pay for a game I adore, which is mostly filled with people I like or can at least tolerate, made by a company that isn't perfect but is head and shoulders better than the rest of the gaming industry.
Why do you get to run around telling people they don't like something. Why do you get to define their opinion?
You still don't get that people can dislike parts of something while enjoying the whole. |
Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
7080
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Posted - 2016.01.19 16:43:52 -
[4178] - Quote
Jenn aSide wrote:You said Elite was more fun. Is that why you have more posts in this thread than you do on the entire Elite forum? I imagine that's true since I rarely go onto the Elite forum as I tend to be immersed in the game when I play it.
Jenn aSide wrote:The real truth here is you just like to be miserable, and you like to argue every bit as much as Tippia does, and playing a game you don't really like gives you both. Nope, the real truth is that I loved EVE and while I get less enjoyment from it now than in the past I do still get some enjoyment from it and and unwilling to stop playing it until either I stop enjoying it or until I'm sure that CCP aren't going to improve it in ways that I enjoy. Watching them tack on microtransactions because their subscriber base is declining is less than fun, but I still hold some level of hope that they'll find their footing and make some good changes. The PvE changes they've alluded to are promising.
Jenn aSide wrote:This is relevant here because your eternal crusade for the changing of EVE Online isn't because EVE has issues, it's because you can't accept that EVE doesn't really fit your entertainment needs. Incorrect, it's exactly because it has issues. It entertains me enough to still play it to some extent, just like any other old game I don't play full time. There is no game in existence that would take 100% of my attention.
Jenn aSide wrote:Put another way, I'm not the weird one, I pay for a game I adore, which is mostly filled with people I like or can at least tolerate, made by a company that isn't perfect but is head and shoulders better than the rest of the gaming industry. Of course you're the weird one. You're the one who feels the necessity to tell other people what they think of a game and judge them on your own made up interpretation of their feelings. That's pretty weird dude.
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Jenn aSide
Ascendent.
Test Alliance Please Ignore
13395
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Posted - 2016.01.19 16:47:45 -
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King Aires wrote:
Why do you get to run around telling people they don't like something. Why do you get to define their opinion?
I didn't define anything. I am [b]observing [/b ]your opinions.
Quote:
You still don't get that people can dislike parts of something while enjoying the whole.
I get it. I think it's a lie people tell themselves to justify (mostly to themselves) doing something that is highly irrational. My ex-sister in law once told me "just because you don't like some things about a person doesn't mean you have to hate the whole person". Like here, you're grown so you make your own decisions, but don't get mad at me simply for pointing out how unbelievably crazy that is. |
xxxTRUSTxxx
Galactic Rangers
EVEolution.
401
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Posted - 2016.01.19 16:58:32 -
[4180] - Quote
page 206 of the no you, no you, no you, no you, thread.
can't see why this ranting bullshite thread is still alive, i've seen threads locked for less. devs must have a bet on this one  |
Jenn aSide
Ascendent.
Test Alliance Please Ignore
13396
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Posted - 2016.01.19 16:58:57 -
[4181] - Quote
Lucas Kell wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:You said Elite was more fun. Is that why you have more posts in this thread than you do on the entire Elite forum? I imagine that's true since I rarely go onto the Elite forum as I tend to be immersed in the game when I play it.
And yet you find your way back to EVE, a game you are elss immersed in, and advocate it change to suit your personal entertainment needs...rather than understand that EVE can't be what you want while still being EVE.
Quote: I get less enjoyment from it now than in the past I do still get some enjoyment from it and and unwilling to stop playing it until either I stop enjoying it or until I'm sure that CCP aren't going to improve it in ways that I enjoy. Watching them tack on microtransactions because their subscriber base is declining is less than fun, but I still hold some level of hope that they'll find their footing and make some good changes. The PvE changes they've alluded to are promising.
Translation "I don't love her anymore, but I still have hope that she'll lose some weight and I'll get that spark again".
Quote:Of course you're the weird one. You're the one who feels the necessity to tell other people what they think of a game and judge them on your own made up interpretation of their feelings. That's pretty weird dude.
Quite a defense mechanism you have there. Of the two of us I belong here, but somehow I'm in the wrong for liking the thing I'm doing. I've been playing for 8 years, and unlike you I like EVE more than i did in the past despite some well meaning but misguided actions on CCPs part (no one is perfect). I do not begrudge your choices, simply point out that you are laying blame in the wrong direction.
Lucas Kells waning like of EVE Online happened because Lucas Kell's tastes changed as he got older, not because EVE Online did anything wrong.
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Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
2506
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Posted - 2016.01.19 17:01:10 -
[4182] - Quote
xxxTRUSTxxx wrote:page 206 of the no you, no you, no you, no you, thread. can't see why this ranting bullshite thread is still alive, i've seen threads locked for less. devs must have a bet on this one
Well this thread still being open has the benefit of keeping all this discussion in that thread. If anything, it's a honey pot and it's doing a pretty good job at it. |
Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
7080
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Posted - 2016.01.19 17:08:38 -
[4183] - Quote
Jenn aSide wrote:I didn't define anything. I am observing your opinions. Incorrectly observing the opinions of someone you don't know. All you know is what they are posting. And I think the most telling part of you "observations" is that by some miracle all of the "insane" people happen to be people who have opinions that oppose your own. I've not yet seen someone suggest something you do like, then you say "you're crazy for suggesting changes to the game, that means you don't like it how it is".
Jenn aSide wrote:I get it. I think it's a lie people tell themselves to justify (mostly to themselves) doing something that is highly irrational. My ex-sister in law once told me "just because you don't like some things about a person doesn't mean you have to hate the whole person". Like here, you're grown so you make your own decisions, but don't get mad at me simply for pointing out how unbelievably crazy that is. Alternatively it's an actual fact. You can like something but want changes. Like when you buy a house because you really like the house, it's an excellent price and it's perfect in every way except for the way one room is decorated. Would you say "This house is not perfect and thus I cannot have it"? Personally I'd just buy the house and paint that room.
there's nothing irrational about playing a game that you enjoy and that entertains you, even if there are parts of it you'd like to see changed.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
17372
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Posted - 2016.01.19 17:13:44 -
[4184] - Quote
Lucas Kell wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:I didn't define anything. I am observing your opinions. Incorrectly observing the opinions of someone you don't know. All you know is what they are posting. And I think the most telling part of you "observations" is that by some miracle all of the "insane" people happen to be people who have opinions that oppose your own. I've not yet seen someone suggest something you do like, then you say "you're crazy for suggesting changes to the game, that means you don't like it how it is". Jenn aSide wrote:I get it. I think it's a lie people tell themselves to justify (mostly to themselves) doing something that is highly irrational. My ex-sister in law once told me "just because you don't like some things about a person doesn't mean you have to hate the whole person". Like here, you're grown so you make your own decisions, but don't get mad at me simply for pointing out how unbelievably crazy that is. Alternatively it's an actual fact. You can like something but want changes. Like when you buy a house because you really like the house, it's an excellent price and it's perfect in every way except for the way one room is decorated. Would you say "This house is not perfect and thus I cannot have it"? Personally I'd just buy the house and paint that room. there's nothing irrational about playing a game that you enjoy and that entertains you, even if there are parts of it you'd like to see changed.
how empty is your life that you had to spend 40 pages doing this?
"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his ISK/hr depends upon his not understanding it!"
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Remiel Pollard
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
7431
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Posted - 2016.01.19 17:16:51 -
[4185] - Quote
King Aires wrote:
Why do you get to run around telling people they don't like something. Why do you get to define their opinion?
You still don't get that people can dislike parts of something while enjoying the whole.
The problem is that the parts you don't seem to like are parts that are integral to EVE, its nature and its uniqueness. Your solutions are: continue whining with no results, adapt, or go play something else. Whether or not you like other parts of it is irrelevant to this.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
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Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
7080
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Posted - 2016.01.19 17:18:27 -
[4186] - Quote
Jenn aSide wrote:And yet you find your way back to EVE, a game you are elss immersed in, and advocate it change to suit your personal entertainment needs...rather than understand that EVE can't be what you want while still being EVE. I play a lot of games, with varying levels of enjoyment. Many normal people do the same.
Jenn aSide wrote:Translation "I don't love her anymore, but I still have hope that she'll lose some weight and I'll get that spark again". More like "I still love her, but there are things I'd prefer were different". Believe it or not most normal people don't see one thing they don't like about their partner and immediately go running off to a new partner. Like you might enjoy cycling, but she had an crash and it scared her. Instead of running off to find a new relationship, you can perhaps go cycling with a mate and in the meantime help her overcome her newfound fear of cycling. Sure, if in the long run enough things put too much distance between you, then a new partner might be the only option, but until then you work stuff out.
Jenn aSide wrote:Quite a defense mechanism you have there. Of the two of us I belong here, but somehow I'm in the wrong for liking the thing I'm doing. I've been playing for 8 years, and unlike you I like EVE more than i did in the past despite some well meaning but misguided actions on CCPs part (no one is perfect). I do not begrudge your choices, simply point out that you are laying blame in the wrong direction. Of the two of us we both belong here, as does everyone else that wants to be here. You're not wrong for liking EVE, you're wrong for spending vast amounts of you time explaining to people why you think they should make different choices based on nearly zero knowledge of their actual feelings.
Jenn aSide wrote:Lucas Kells waning like of EVE Online happened because Lucas Kell's tastes changed as he got older, not because EVE Online did anything wrong. So you're saying EVE is exactly as it was in 2005 when I started playing? It hasn't changed at all no? Perhaps my tastes have changed as everyone's tastes do tend to, but that doesn't mean that EVE has not done anything to contribute to it, and certainly doesn't mean that my opinions about what they should do with EVE are invalidated. I have just as much of a right to express my preferences as you do. Get over it.
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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Legion
17124
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Posted - 2016.01.19 17:21:05 -
[4187] - Quote
You keep on demanding ever more evidence from us, its time for you to back what you say because to date you have never backed up anything you have ever said in any thread you have posted in.
baltec1 wrote:The only reason CCP don't step in now is because the game has evovled and CCP wouldn't want to do that. Funnily enough though that proves that back then CCP thought that it was bad enough for the game for them to have to step in. And fast forward to 2015, burn amarr + burn warr akini, 1.4 trillion isk ganked in what, 5 or 6 days total? Let that sink in.
So you agree then, it was far more dangerous back then.
baltec1 wrote:lol, even though the modern day ganking events are bigger?
We have one, and even that one is getting to be expensive to run. The last one was funded almost entirely on one mans back.
Lucas Kell wrote: And mate, prove it.
There it is again.
Lucas Kell wrote:
Prove that ganking has gone down, prove that the (as of yet unproven) reduction in ganking caused the drop in players. Please by all means prove that the drop in players is due to gankers ragequitting over their gameplay being made more challenging.
I didnt say people are leaving because of less ganking I said its more likely people left because EVE became boring.
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Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
7080
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Posted - 2016.01.19 17:21:11 -
[4188] - Quote
Malcanis wrote:how empty is your life that you had to spend 40 pages doing this? Not very, I'm a pretty busy guy, I'm just rapid typer. How empty is yours that you've had to spend 40 pages reading it and slipping in snide comments?
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Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
7080
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Posted - 2016.01.19 17:26:30 -
[4189] - Quote
baltec1 wrote:You keep on demanding ever more evidence from us, its time for you to back what you say because to date you have never backed up anything you have ever said in any thread you have posted in. I'm not demanding more evidence, I'm demanding the same evidence. You made a claim and you have yet to actually prove it. No matter how much you spin it that remains the case.
baltec1 wrote:So you agree then, it was far more dangerous back then. No, most certainly not.
baltec1 wrote:We have one, and even that one is getting to be expensive to run. The last one was funded almost entirely on one mans back. It was primarily funded through miniluv which is constantly telling people how it's self-funded. It's mainly T1 catalysts, and Burn Warr Akini alone raked in 85b in loot, more than enough to pay for the losses.
(I love how you're so bad at forum-fu you quoted me but attributed it to yourself by the way)
baltec1 wrote:I didnt say people are leaving because of less ganking I said its more likely people left because EVE became boring. And you claim it became boring because there is less ganking (which you have yet to prove) ergo you are saying people are leaving because there is less ganking.
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Jenn aSide
Ascendent.
Test Alliance Please Ignore
13397
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Posted - 2016.01.19 17:37:33 -
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Lucas Kell wrote: Like when you buy a house because you really like the house, it's an excellent price and it's perfect in every way except for the way one room is decorated. Would you say "This house is not perfect and thus I cannot have it"? Personally I'd just buy the house and paint that room.
It's not a room you dislike, you dislike the material the house is made of and additionally think it would be must a much better house if it were on another continent...
Trying to minimize you level of radicalization on the issue is a politician's trick btw.
Quote:
there's nothing irrational about playing a game that you enjoy and that entertains you, even if there are parts of it you'd like to see changed.
The parts you and your type want changed are the parts that many of us like (or, in the case of ganking, at least understand). This is why what you believe is worse than Naive.
You say you liked the game better in the past than now. The game was rougher back then, less new player friendly, less 'pay to win'. The UI was crappier, exploration was insanely stupid, there was less npc/pve content, hell gankers got INSURANCE PAYMENTS for ganking people, CONCORD and faction police could be tanked etc etc. There were no pop ups to tell noobs not to jump, no pop ups to prevent you from undocking without mission critical items, no mission guide systems.
And yet everything you advocate would make the game MORE like it is now and LESS like it was in the past. The suggests that you haven't' really thought out what you want (along with the negative consequences that come with any and all changes, even positive ones) and haven't taken into consideration how huge the change in your own preferences affect your thinking.
I've known people like you my whole life, too busy arguing to realize you're arguing for the wrong things lol.
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Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
7080
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Posted - 2016.01.19 17:49:47 -
[4191] - Quote
Jenn aSide wrote:It's not a room you dislike, you dislike the material the house is made of and additionally think it would be must a much better house if it were on another continent... But it's not, that's just your inflated opinion of what people want changed and your own view of what EVE's core is to you.
Jenn aSide wrote:The parts you and your type want changed are the parts that many of us like (or, in the case of ganking, at least understand). This is why what you believe is worse than Naive. They may very well be the parts you like, but you liking them doesn't make them any more important. And since I actually do gank, it would seem pretty weird for me to not understand it as you claim. I simply prefer my games to be challenging and ganking is too easy IMHO.
Jenn aSide wrote:You say you liked the game better in the past than now. The game was rougher back then, less new player friendly, less 'pay to win'. The UI was crappier, exploration was insanely stupid, there was less npc/pve content, hell gankers got INSURANCE PAYMENTS for ganking people, CONCORD and faction police could be tanked etc etc. There were no pop ups to tell noobs not to jump, no pop ups to prevent you from undocking without mission critical items, no mission guide systems.
And yet everything you advocate would make the game MORE like it is now and LESS like it was in the past. The suggests that you haven't' really thought out what you want (along with the negative consequences that come with any and all changes, even positive ones) and haven't taken into consideration how huge the change in your own preferences affect your thinking. Some of that I did like, yeah. I preferred the lack of popups and the mission guide system, but I like the new safety system. I preferred the old scanning system and the lack of microtransactions but I prefer concord being untankable and the new UI. What it suggests is that unsurprisingly you have no idea what I want. You've seen a sentence or a single point being made and you've assumed everything else.
Jenn aSide wrote:I've known people like you my whole life, too busy arguing to realize you're arguing for the wrong things lol. Yeah, and I've met people like you, far too busy yammering on about how they know better and telling other people what they are feeling and how they should act to realise their their actually clueless and most people just nod at them until they go away.
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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Legion
17124
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Posted - 2016.01.19 17:52:29 -
[4192] - Quote
Lucas Kell wrote:I'm not demanding more evidence, I'm demanding the same evidence. You made a claim and you have yet to actually prove it. No matter how much you spin it that remains the case.
We provided it, barge kills, the list I gave you showing the mechanics that have changed that reduced the number of targets and made ganking harder, the age of M0o when CCP flet the need to step in, the fact that mining interdictions don't happen anymore, the fact that hulkageddon doesn't happen any more. But naturally you don't want these you want other things that are are not posted yet.
Lucas Kell wrote:No, most certainly not. But you just pointed out what I was saying, CCP flet the need to step in back then and not at any point in the last few years. That alone shows it was more dangerous.
Lucas Kell wrote:It was primarily funded through miniluv which is Funded by one guy. Remember the corp you are talking to here.
Lucas Kell wrote:And you claim it became boring because there is less ganking (which you have yet to prove) ergo you are saying people are leaving because there is less ganking.
I never said it was all down to a lack of ganking. Removal of jetcan shenanigans, stagnation of null, ship imbalances, PvE imbalances, ganking nerfs. All of it has resulted in a much less active game.
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Giaus Felix
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
108
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Posted - 2016.01.19 17:53:00 -
[4193] - Quote
Lucas Kell wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:I've known people like you my whole life, too busy arguing to realize you're arguing for the wrong things lol. Yeah, and I've met people like you, far too busy yammering on about how they know better and telling other people what they are feeling and how they should act to realise their their actually clueless and most people just nod at them until they go away. Pot meet kettle, you're both black.
I am Ralph's junk DNA.
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Nana Skalski
Poseidaon
3099
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Posted - 2016.01.19 18:18:19 -
[4194] - Quote
Now kiss.
( -á° -ƒ-û -í°)/ GòáGò¼GòªGò¼Gòú - my sandcastle
( -á° -ƒ-û -í°)/ <=X - my yacht
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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Legion
17124
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Posted - 2016.01.19 18:31:42 -
[4195] - Quote
Nana Skalski wrote:Now kiss.
Hot
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Alex Drakonov
Hard Knocks Inc.
Hard Knocks Citizens
7
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Posted - 2016.01.19 18:34:26 -
[4196] - Quote
Rework HS pvp mechanics, suicide ganks on miners and silly war decs hurt new players without adding any fun for both parties.
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Admiral Bill Adama
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2016.01.19 18:42:11 -
[4197] - Quote
We need to come together as a community and demand new content, lets face the facts we haven't gotten any thing truly new in a long time.
1. More " types " of space. Not just High, Low, Null, W-space..
2. Add more to the trades, look at exploration it's become unbearably dry... Make regions of space that we can truly explore on our own for fun and via agents.
3. New factions.
4. More Trades.
5. Planet warfare, allow corps to to build bases on planets similar to a station that they can walk around in with there fellow corp mates. Allow other corps to lay siege to them using new weapons and ships devoted to it etc..
CCP you can do so much with this game it's not even funny stop worrying about pissing certain people off, more then half your player base has quit and one of the major reasons is the lack of new content. |
Jill Xelitras
Xeltec services
521
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Posted - 2016.01.19 19:19:01 -
[4198] - Quote
Admiral Bill Adama wrote:
2.(snip) Make regions of space that we can truly explore on our own for fun and via agents.
Are you calling for instances ? Thou shall burn, heretic.
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Admiral Bill Adama
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.01.19 19:22:07 -
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Jill Xelitras wrote:Admiral Bill Adama wrote:
2.(snip) Make regions of space that we can truly explore on our own for fun and via agents.
Are you calling for instances ? Thou shall burn, heretic.
lol I'm not i promise don't burn me : (
All I'm saying is this company has a lot of opportunities and an endless amount of content they can provide if they chose to, what I think we need was partially listed above but those are just my opinions and I would really just be happy if we got some thing new haha.
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Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
7080
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Posted - 2016.01.19 19:54:15 -
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baltec1 wrote:We provided it, barge kills, the list I gave you showing the mechanics that have changed that reduced the number of targets and made ganking harder, the age of M0o when CCP flet the need to step in, the fact that mining interdictions don't happen anymore, the fact that hulkageddon doesn't happen any more. But naturally you don't want these you want other things that are are not posted yet. Except as stated before there's 2 main issues there. 1, barges don't constitute the entirety of ganking, and 2, the 08 stats included all ships lost, even to NPCs. All the interdictions and hulkageddon not happening anymore suggests is that gankers shoot different targets. Beign that burn amarr and burn war akkini were bigger than any of the interdictions, it suggest ganking has grown.
baltec1 wrote:But you just pointed out what I was saying, CCP flet the need to step in back then and not at any point in the last few years. That alone shows it was more dangerous. Ah, I see, then you misunderstand. What I mean by that is that CCPs stance has changed since then. Back then they were a growing company and more risk averse, but since then they've done things like HTFU, and are less likely to get involved.
baltec1 wrote:Funded by one guy. Remember the corp you are talking to here. I know who I'm talking to, so you should know full well how much was made through ganking. Like I said before, burn war akini alone produced 85b in picked up loot.
baltec1 wrote:I never said it was all down to a lack of ganking. Removal of jetcan shenanigans, stagnation of null, ship imbalances, PvE imbalances, ganking nerfs. All of it has resulted in a much less active game. So you're saying there's a whole bunch of people that can't handle changes to the game and ragequit, not just gankers?
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