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DHB FooFighter FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.02.02 16:19:00 - [151] Originally by: James Lyrus Originally by: DHB FooFighter We started the shooting, but from our point of view the "war" started many months before that. ISS started the POS war, unfortunatly for them, we ended it. I find those two statements somewhat contradictory. oh well. Algey, some of the members in my alliance were constently asking me why we didn't attack your POS's on that first weekend. After destroying your fleets not once, but twice, we peacefully headed out of the system and back to our station. I've already tried to explain this to you. As for the coalition, It didn't show up until we needed help, and being the excelent allies that they are they came with a sizable force to insure our survival. If you all had not attacked our F4 station we probably would have ended the -10 at the end of a few weeks after securing a more favorable trade and military agreement from your leaders. However, you acted in exactly the fashion that showed how volatile and unprodictable you can be and therefore you had to be removed for us to continue to feel safe at night. I personally have spent A LOT of time and energy making sure IAC survived not only this war, but the previous one as well. That is probably the reason why you see me so vocal on these boards. IAC is now stronger, more organized, and better prepared for the next MC invasion, because we all know Tyrrax is out there right now ****ing in someones cheerios -------------------------------------------------
0August0 Gallente Gooch Unlimited	Posted - 2007.02.02 17:17:00 - [152] Originally by: Kaylana Syi blah blah blah hearsay and rabble coming from a coward. spin your web somewhere else before you get your alliance into more trouble and loose more outposts. Coward? Really dude get a clue, this is a computer game not RL warfare. The only cowards I see here are those who call people names while hiding behind the anonymity of the internet. . . . Regards, August
DHB FooFighter FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.02.02 17:25:00 - [153] Originally by: 0August0 Originally by: Kaylana Syi blah blah blah hearsay and rabble coming from a coward. spin your web somewhere else before you get your alliance into more trouble and loose more outposts. Coward? Really dude get a clue, this is a computer game not RL warfare. The only cowards I see here are those who call people names while hiding behind the anonymity of the internet. Kay likes his roleplay. Everything he says is on context within the game. Hes not calling algey a reallife coward, just an in-game one. Kay also likes his smacktalk, especially served with whine -------------------------------------------------
Kaylana Syi Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.02.02 17:41:00 - [154] Originally by: 0August0 Originally by: Kaylana Syi blah blah blah hearsay and rabble coming from a coward. spin your web somewhere else before you get your alliance into more trouble and loose more outposts. Coward? Really dude get a clue, this is a computer game not RL warfare. The only cowards I see here are those who call people names while hiding behind the anonymity of the internet. lol... get a grip One of your Sigs contained inappropriate material for the eve-o forums, please email [email protected] for a explination. - hutch Team Minmatar Carriers need Clone Vats
James Lyrus Lyrus Associates	Posted - 2007.02.02 17:48:00 - [155] Originally by: DHB FooFighter Originally by: James Lyrus Originally by: DHB FooFighter We started the shooting, but from our point of view the "war" started many months before that. ISS started the POS war, unfortunatly for them, we ended it. I find those two statements somewhat contradictory. oh well. Algey, some of the members in my alliance were constently asking me why we didn't attack your POS's on that first weekend. After destroying your fleets not once, but twice, we peacefully headed out of the system and back to our station. I've already tried to explain this to you. As for the coalition, It didn't show up until we needed help, and being the excelent allies that they are they came with a sizable force to insure our survival. If you all had not attacked our F4 station we probably would have ended the -10 at the end of a few weeks after securing a more favorable trade and military agreement from your leaders. However, you acted in exactly the fashion that showed how volatile and unprodictable you can be and therefore you had to be removed for us to continue to feel safe at night. I personally have spent A LOT of time and energy making sure IAC survived not only this war, but the previous one as well. That is probably the reason why you see me so vocal on these boards. This sounds all too familiar. From the other side of the fence: You did indeed hit us hard that first day. We had to do something about it, as having large blobs roaming around was clearly being a problem. As there didn't seem to be much of a hint as to why, or whether it was preparation for a major offensive ... well, at that point it becomes necesary to assume the worst, but ... well we did _ask_ whether you wanted a POS war or not. So in come the cavalry, F4R2-Q gets rolled over, because it's a strategic threat, being right next door, figuring that was a good time to see if you'd had enough yet. Lets face it, POS warfare is about the least fun thing you can do in EVE. So figured some kind of de-escalation was in order, so put together a suggestion that reflected this. Well, we know how that turned out. A 'we'll pull back over a month or two, and have peace', vs. a 'leave, and then we'll maybe talk' wasn't something that was acceptable to either side. So I'm also very vocal, because I believe in this alliance. And because I know exactly what you mean, with keeping it together under a heavy attack. shrug so it goes. It's been a long couple of months, and a few times I've felt rather frustrated with EVE. Then again, I've had some fun fights, and despaired at the lag when you get two fleets together. Nothing like a bit of a war to focus the mind. Anyway, shall we go back to smacking?
Algey ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.02.02 18:01:00 - [156] Originally by: DHB FooFighter oh well. Algey, some of the members in my alliance were constently asking me why we didn't attack your POS's on that first weekend. After destroying your fleets not once, but twice, we peacefully headed out of the system and back to our station. I've already tried to explain this to you. As for the coalition, It didn't show up until we needed help, and being the excelent allies that they are they came with a sizable force to insure our survival. If you all had not attacked our F4 station we probably would have ended the -10 at the end of a few weeks after securing a more favorable trade and military agreement from your leaders. However, you acted in exactly the fashion that showed how volatile and unprodictable you can be and therefore you had to be removed for us to continue to feel safe at night. I personally have spent A LOT of time and energy making sure IAC survived not only this war, but the previous one as well. That is probably the reason why you see me so vocal on these boards. IAC is now stronger, more organized, and better prepared for the next MC invasion, because we all know Tyrrax is out there right now ****ing in someones cheerios You destroyed our fleet twice to be sure, however how many did you win after that? Don't forget that ISS had deployed a new station that day, had been up for goodness knows how many hours, and was not expecting to be attacked by our +10 friends in addition to being scattered throughout the galaxy. Noone believes that you were not intending a pos war, indeed you yourself said as much when we were chatting in local. As for the silly insults from your "diplomat", I'm afraid that is normal. Not once since the start of this conflict has IAC been willing to engage in diplomacy. Threats and insults, so I'm getting immune to it now
Empyre ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.02.02 18:28:00 - [157] Edited by: Empyre on 02/02/2007 18:27:15 The constant changes in intentions, justification and alterior motive speak one thing to me.. the ends justify the means, even though it's apparent you're trying to find means to justify that end.. even though every thread about it gets locked because you and your allies and you end up being the only ones posting in it with smack. Not wrong, just call it like it really is. It reminds me of those lifetime criminals that go in and out of jail for robbing stores. They'll do anything in their power to try and make people believe their intentions weren't bad, even as the jury is viewing the security tape of them beating the person behind the counter. People argue when their personal views are at odds, whereas a debate is a more formal method of analyzing the angles of an issue.
Kaylana Syi Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.02.02 19:05:00 - [158] Originally by: Empyre Edited by: Empyre on 02/02/2007 18:27:15 The constant changes in intentions, justification and alterior motive speak one thing to me.. the ends justify the means, even though it's apparent you're trying to find means to justify that end.. even though every thread about it gets locked because you and your allies and you end up being the only ones posting in it with smack. Not wrong, just call it like it really is. It reminds me of those lifetime criminals that go in and out of jail for robbing stores. They'll do anything in their power to try and make people believe their intentions weren't bad, even as the jury is viewing the security tape of them beating the person behind the counter. The only thing that I see here is your alliance calling us liars. Which will only lead you to loosing more outposts. So I recommend you shut your holes before we take what pride you have left. One of your Sigs contained inappropriate material for the eve-o forums, please email [email protected] for a explination. - hutch Team Minmatar Carriers need Clone Vats
Empyre ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.02.02 19:31:00 - [159] Originally by: Kaylana Syi The only thing that I see here is your alliance calling us liars. Which will only lead you to loosing more outposts. So I recommend you shut your holes before we take what pride you have left. wonder why every other post from you lately is "you wanna look at me funny? wanna lose another outpost?" could it be that there is "something" on the nearby horizon that is injecting confidence straight into your veins? (spies! lies! ) but seriously. i'm not even trying to smack here. any person with Reading Comprehension I can see that I am trying to post about this in a semi-civil manner. Why we continue to try and show you what is obvious to a lot of others is beyond me.. come to think of it.. I don't know why I got suckered into posting here, it's pointless. People argue when their personal views are at odds, whereas a debate is a more formal method of analyzing the angles of an issue.
Murukan Minmatar The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2007.02.02 19:37:00 - [160] Originally by: Empyre Originally by: Kaylana Syi The only thing that I see here is your alliance calling us liars. Which will only lead you to loosing more outposts. So I recommend you shut your holes before we take what pride you have left. wonder why every other post from you lately is "you wanna look at me funny? wanna lose another outpost?" could it be that there is "something" on the nearby horizon that is injecting confidence straight into your veins? (spies! lies! ) but seriously. i'm not even trying to smack here. any person with Reading Comprehension I can see that I am trying to post about this in a semi-civil manner. Why we continue to try and show you what is obvious to a lot of others is beyond me.. come to think of it.. I don't know why I got suckered into posting here, it's pointless. i agree it is pointless for you guys to post here. You lost, and your alliance is a non factor now, just accept it. Manlove by Zaphod Jones
Algey ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.02.02 19:41:00 - [161] Originally by: Kaylana Syi The only thing that I see here is your alliance calling us liars. Which will only lead you to loosing more outposts. So I recommend you shut your holes before we take what pride you have left. We already know of the planned attack. Your feeble attempt to justify things makes me laugh. Your diplomatic skills I remain in awe of however, with the continual threats and insults. The thing is it won't be IAC attacking us on their own will it, and YOU have never taken anything from us have you.
DHB FooFighter FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.02.02 19:57:00 - [162] Edited by: DHB FooFighter on 02/02/2007 19:53:59 lets recap shall we. IAC starts shooting ISS. IAC fails to tell ISS our intentions, ISS sees it as us taking their stations. After 2 days of Fighting and numerous victories by IAC forces, yet not even so much as a cov ops scouting POS, ISS calls in the MC, KIA, FIX, and LV. IAC backpedals, losing F4r mostly to our own faliure to secure the moons in our outpost system and to the incredible response time of the MC. IAC fights a defense War. We wait, we give up ground and POS for time. We know that the MC is constricted by time and everyday we delay we gain more and more of an advantage. F4 falls after a week of "fighting". After the initial surge MC forces work on locking down the system at all times. They accomplish this quite well with most IAC forces being confind to the POS. I believe the only reason we had any morale after this dominating performance was our cov ops pilots. If any hostile logged off it had at least 2 cov ops scanning it down at all times. 2 carriers and numerous battleship kills later our Cov ops pilot was petitioned . The following week JBY is smashed into reinforced mode and IAC morale falls to an all time low. I remember being convo'd by an IAC member who told me flat out I needed to boost morale amongst the troops. One of my persoanl favorite methods of doing that was the shuttle bombing of the MC pos, especially in my snake pod. Then AAA shows up and the tide of war is changed. AAA want a capital ship fight, and they see our plight as a good way of obtaining that fight. However, the MC pulls out and the day IAC has been waiting for arrived. We get JBY back on its feet and then pull off the morale booster of the century. MC begins its whitdrawl in the following days. Many of the MC troops have already left system, but our falcon pilot eyeballing the MC pos in F4 informs me that Seleene is there offlining the MC pos. SO i get together a rag-tag gang with any ships our pilots had left. We know ISS is attempting to form a gang but after they fail to do so we swoop in, steal the MC pos and erect our own deathstar in its place. After this it was over for the ISS in F4. We take back the system after minimal resistance. this is one hell of a crappy write up i know, but im in a rush will write the rest later :P -------------------------------------------------
Empyre ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.02.02 20:03:00 - [163] Edited by: Empyre on 02/02/2007 20:02:21 Originally by: Murukan i agree it is pointless for you guys to post here. You lost, and your alliance is a non factor now, just accept it. see, what is the purpose of this drivel? we lost outposts to an overwhelming force? sure, that's a no-brainer. here, you use it as a cheap attempt to put truth to the statement following. our alliance exists, which in and of itself IS a factor, and (thankfully) doesn't require the possession of an outpost to justify our existance to ourselves.. which seems to be more than I can say for some. Count has incredible visions and plans, even when children come en masse and take a chunk of our assets. An unstoppable and ever-creative vision such as that is worth more to me than any smack-talking, forum-whoring, self-proclaiming "vision" your alliance of pirates and griefers claims to serve. At least we're willing to ATTEMPT civil conversations with our enemies and accept our failures. Alliances of conquest and greed will rise and fall as quickly as the attention span of its' members. Originally by: DHB FooFighter lets recap shall we. IAC starts shooting ISS. IAC fails to tell ISS our intentions, ISS sees it as us taking their stations. .. for emphasis. People argue when their personal views are at odds, whereas a debate is a more formal method of analyzing the angles of an issue.
Dekiri Exanimo Inc Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.02.02 20:15:00 - [164] This rambling is ridiculous. No matter what IAC had planned the mistakes made by count gave them any excuse they might need to crush you. The point is that bloodlust hit the ISS and they attacked the bottleshop (if i remember right correct me if i got the name wrong) and that justifies any response. What ever they actually planned is something noone will be able toproove afterwards and the ISS did dig their own hole there by being over agressive. --------------------------------- Exanimo Inc. - Mercs for hire Join channel "CONTRACT EXAN" in game if you wish to hire Exanimo Inc. Or contact cptblood or kakanur
solarwinds ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.02.02 20:20:00 - [165] Originally by: DHB FooFighter Edited by: DHB FooFighter on 02/02/2007 19:53:59 lets recap shall we. IAC starts shooting ISS. IAC fails to tell ISS our intentions, ISS sees it as us taking their stations. After 2 days of Fighting and numerous victories by IAC forces, yet not even so much as a cov ops scouting POS, ISS calls in the MC, KIA, FIX, and LV. IAC backpedals, losing F4r mostly to our own faliure to secure the moons in our outpost system and to the incredible response time of the MC. IAC fights a defense War. We wait, we give up ground and POS for time. We know that the MC is constricted by time and everyday we delay we gain more and more of an advantage. F4 falls after a week of "fighting". After the initial surge MC forces work on locking down the system at all times. They accomplish this quite well with most IAC forces being confind to the POS. I believe the only reason we had any morale after this dominating performance was our cov ops pilots. If any hostile logged off it had at least 2 cov ops scanning it down at all times. 2 carriers and numerous battleship kills later our Cov ops pilot was petitioned . The following week JBY is smashed into reinforced mode and IAC morale falls to an all time low. I remember being convo'd by an IAC member who told me flat out I needed to boost morale amongst the troops. One of my persoanl favorite methods of doing that was the shuttle bombing of the MC pos, especially in my snake pod. Then AAA shows up and the tide of war is changed. AAA want a capital ship fight, and they see our plight as a good way of obtaining that fight. However, the MC pulls out and the day IAC has been waiting for arrived. We get JBY back on its feet and then pull off the morale booster of the century. MC begins its whitdrawl in the following days. Many of the MC troops have already left system, but our falcon pilot eyeballing the MC pos in F4 informs me that Seleene is there offlining the MC pos. SO i get together a rag-tag gang with any ships our pilots had left. We know ISS is attempting to form a gang but after they fail to do so we swoop in, steal the MC pos and erect our own deathstar in its place. After this it was over for the ISS in F4. We take back the system after minimal resistance. this is one hell of a crappy write up i know, but im in a rush will write the rest later :P This sounds pretty much 100% accurate for anyone wanting details about the conflict (historically, that is). After IAC & Friends (hereafter refered to as simply IAC) reclaimed F4R2, they made their move on Marginis (KDF). It only has what, 3 moons IIRC? It wasn't long before it fell and ISS shield skimming operation did not have sufficient numbers to make a difference. Once Marginis was conquered, Tycho (ZXIC) became the next battleground. ISS fought much harder and many ships were lost on both sides, setting stage for some geat (and some very laggy) fleet battles. POS warfare began, but ISS skimming ops were more successful, delaying the takeover. IAC succeeded eventually and ISS relocated to Providence as Shroud Of Darkenss took ownership of ISS Tycho. ISS is far from dead, contrary to popular belief, and although smaller, is more unified and stronger than before. IAC has taken ownership of AAA outposts in lower Catch and continue to expand and grow. Fighting continues on both sides on a smaller scale.
Empyre ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.02.02 20:28:00 - [166] Originally by: Dekiri This rambling is ridiculous. No matter what IAC had planned the mistakes made by count gave them any excuse they might need to crush you. The point is that bloodlust hit the ISS and they attacked the bottleshop (if i remember right correct me if i got the name wrong) and that justifies any response. What ever they actually planned is something noone will be able toproove afterwards and the ISS did dig their own hole there by being over agressive. you may be entirely right (although I'm more inclined to believe that AT BEST, IAC intentionally went -10 and stopped talking to instigate the attack on F4. i'm more willing to believe other things, but i'll refrain because fuel is explosive and these forums don't need more drama.) in any case, i can't speak for the rest of my corp/alliance but I'm happy to not have to be spread so thin protecting and supplying stations. i had every intention to pursue the ISS vision for the shareholders assets, but knowing i can maintain a bit of morality and not wade through miles of bureaucracy before pulling the trigger to protect myself in an INCREDIBLY librating feeling. have fun with your stations, though.. People argue when their personal views are at odds, whereas a debate is a more formal method of analyzing the angles of an issue.
Dekiri Exanimo Inc Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.02.02 20:30:00 - [167] Edited by: Dekiri on 02/02/2007 20:31:21 I did not claim to know what IAC wanted to do. All i said is that ISS is in no position to whine about it. Not to mention that NOONE expected count to go the way of attacking IAC stations. If you claim IAC expected and counted on it then it makes the ISS really look bad as a non territorial and peaceful alliance it always was. --------------------------------- Exanimo Inc. - Mercs for hire Join channel "CONTRACT EXAN" in game if you wish to hire Exanimo Inc. Or contact cptblood or kakanur
Sgt Napalm Synergy Evolved Serenity Fallen	Posted - 2007.02.02 20:37:00 - [168] This thread truly needs a good locking Retired [ISSN] [Video] Skool of Harpy - Da Blarpy
Empyre ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.02.02 20:41:00 - [169] Edited by: Empyre on 02/02/2007 20:39:07 Originally by: Dekiri I did not claim to know what IAC wanted to do. All i said is that ISS is in no position to whine about it. there is a distinct difference between whining and responding to criticism. actually, there's more than one difference.. but the point is, we are calling it like we see it. that arguement is being fueled from both sides, however.. sometimes by the same alliance of folks replying to themselves in the same thread. i'd gladly lose with integrity rather than win without it. i'm not saying the winner has no integrity, i'll keep that opinion to myself.. but i DO know we still have our integrity.. moreso even than before. Originally by: Sgt Napalm This thread truly needs a good locking as long as it stays civil, i don't see why.. what is a forum without discussion afterall? People argue when their personal views are at odds, whereas a debate is a more formal method of analyzing the angles of an issue.
Smoking Mirror Ministry of War	Posted - 2007.02.02 21:24:00 - [170] Originally by: Dekiri Edited by: Dekiri on 02/02/2007 20:31:21 I did not claim to know what IAC wanted to do. All i said is that ISS is in no position to whine about it. Not to mention that NOONE expected count to go the way of attacking IAC stations. If you claim IAC expected and counted on it then it makes the ISS really look bad as a non territorial and peaceful alliance it always was. zomg ISS not neutral must be pacifist must never fight zomg ISS not neutral!11!1!!1!1`!!!oneoneunobirein1!
Kaylana Syi Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.02.02 21:43:00 - [171] lol... Integrity... ISS what drugs have you taken today? Integrity of ISS started being assassinated by your leadership when you took over EC- outpost from BoB and ASCN. Stop trying to play the protagonist after involving yourselves in some of the most controversial decisions known to EVE. You've bloodied a lot of noses and given false handshakes. Now isn't the time to try and rally some forum or moral victory. One of your Sigs contained inappropriate material for the eve-o forums, please email [email protected] for a explination. - hutch Team Minmatar Carriers need Clone Vats
Kaylana Syi Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.02.02 21:51:00 - [172] Edited by: Kaylana Syi on 02/02/2007 21:49:01 Originally by: Algey Originally by: Kaylana Syi The only thing that I see here is your alliance calling us liars. Which will only lead you to loosing more outposts. So I recommend you shut your holes before we take what pride you have left. We already know of the planned attack. Your feeble attempt to justify things makes me laugh. Your diplomatic skills I remain in awe of however, with the continual threats and insults. The thing is it won't be IAC attacking us on their own will it, and YOU have never taken anything from us have you. I don't have to be diplomatic with isk dogs. And I do believe every insult of ISS is well deserved and every threat in the past has been realized. Your the isk maggots of EVE. One of your Sigs contained inappropriate material for the eve-o forums, please email [email protected] for a explination. - hutch Team Minmatar Carriers need Clone Vats
Kaylana Syi Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.02.02 21:52:00 - [173] Edited by: Kaylana Syi on 02/02/2007 21:48:44 One of your Sigs contained inappropriate material for the eve-o forums, please email [email protected] for a explination. - hutch Team Minmatar Carriers need Clone Vats
Empyre ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.02.02 21:57:00 - [174] Originally by: Kaylana Syi lol... Integrity... ISS what drugs have you taken today? Integrity of ISS started being assassinated by your leadership when you took over EC- outpost from BoB and ASCN. Stop trying to play the protagonist after involving yourselves in some of the most controversial decisions known to EVE. You've bloodied a lot of noses and given false handshakes. Now isn't the time to try and rally some forum or moral victory. everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but integrity is not an exclusive term used only by organizations to label others, but also for people to describe themselves. you make an awful lot of claims, but they hold more hot air than the african desert in a drought. fact is.. no matter how much you WANT us to be affected by your conquest, WE are the ones that decide how it affects us, if at all. whether we "deserved" it or not is not even the issue anymore, although you obviously don't want to let it go. personally, i could care less. YOU say our leadership caused all of this and its our own fault, and you're our enemy. i play with these folks on a daily basis and I see differently.. so if you're trying to convince me that you, my enemy, know what i'm experiencing more than myself.. well, i'm laughing my arse off right now at the thought. i know what you want us to be more affected by this than we are, but get over it. you're just not that influential, no matter how many threads you create amongst yourselves trying to claim otherwise. People argue when their personal views are at odds, whereas a debate is a more formal method of analyzing the angles of an issue.
James Lyrus Lyrus Associates	Posted - 2007.02.02 22:48:00 - [175] Originally by: Kaylana Syi Edited by: Kaylana Syi on 02/02/2007 21:49:01 Originally by: Algey Originally by: Kaylana Syi The only thing that I see here is your alliance calling us liars. Which will only lead you to loosing more outposts. So I recommend you shut your holes before we take what pride you have left. We already know of the planned attack. Your feeble attempt to justify things makes me laugh. Your diplomatic skills I remain in awe of however, with the continual threats and insults. The thing is it won't be IAC attacking us on their own will it, and YOU have never taken anything from us have you. I don't have to be diplomatic with isk dogs. And I do believe every insult of ISS is well deserved and every threat in the past has been realized. Your the isk maggots of EVE. See, now that's why your diplomacy failed.
James Snowscoran Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.02.03 00:14:00 - [176] Kaylana Syi could give Ginger Magician a run for his money when it comes to smacktalking and ego-inflation. -----
Empyre ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.02.03 00:37:00 - [177] Originally by: James Snowscoran Kaylana Syi could give Ginger Magician a run for his money when it comes to smacktalking and ego-inflation. you'd kind of hope for some kind of tact or intuit of fact if you were to rank the ability to talk smack. all i've seen so far from the aforementioned subject is very comparable to one of those electronic key-chain insult machines.. you pick it up at the store, laugh about it with your friends, but you're sick and tired of the dang thing by the time you get home. People argue when their personal views are at odds, whereas a debate is a more formal method of analyzing the angles of an issue.
BlackHorizon Caldari Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.02.03 01:09:00 - [178] Originally by: DHB FooFighter Edited by: DHB FooFighter on 02/02/2007 19:53:59 If any hostile logged off it had at least 2 cov ops scanning it down at all times. 2 carriers and numerous battleship kills later our Cov ops pilot was petitioned . Petitioned without success.
Murukan Minmatar The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2007.02.03 03:50:00 - [179] Originally by: Empyre Originally by: James Snowscoran Kaylana Syi could give Ginger Magician a run for his money when it comes to smacktalking and ego-inflation. you'd kind of hope for some kind of tact or intuit of fact if you were to rank the ability to talk smack. all i've seen so far from the aforementioned subject is very comparable to one of those electronic key-chain insult machines.. you pick it up at the store, laugh about it with your friends, but you're sick and tired of the dang thing by the time you get home. Don't play innocent. You guys get what you deserve. During the beginning of the war ISS was grandstanding and smacking plenty at IAC's expense. Now the roles are reversed, suck it up and stop being such a whiny minge. Manlove by Zaphod Jones
Plutoinum German Cyberdome Corp Cult of War	Posted - 2007.02.03 04:12:00 - [180] Edited by: Plutoinum on 03/02/2007 04:09:25 Originally by: Bach Outposts cost huge amounts of isk in maintenance fees and provide little strategic benefit. I was privy to the costs of maintaining Scalding Pass at one time and I'll tell you that drain on the wallet did more damage than the RAGOONs. If they don't make profit, like when the region is under siege and the paying corps have left. Afaik the fees that sponsored corps payed, the refining taxes and the income from offices earned more than enough money to pay easily for all poses and posfuel for several months for our alliance. At least people said that the outpost in KZF was paying off a lot faster than expected. Well, then came totSl-helldeath to Scalding Pass, sponsored Corps left the area and 100% moon-coverage was needed and then the heavy alliance fees for pos stuff started that we didn't have before. But in peace-times they seem to be really profitable. ______________ Originally by: Patch86 Combat in EVE is non-consensual. Unlike most games, EVE, by design, forces you to be ready for violence everywhere-even hi-sec space.

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