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Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve	Posted - 2007.01.31 01:35:00 - [31] Originally by: Cyrus Ildemar Thank you. Accordingly, we're done now. When you're finished with your investigations, please make the results public, as much as is possible. Justice must not only be done, but must be seen to be done. And if the end result is that all these allegations are lies, will you and others apologize publicly for what has happened? I'm all for hearing about this, as I'm sure everyone else is, but if one side has to reply in public, then all sides should. Given what we were told about the monitoring of CCP activities (back when the officer scorpion incident happened), and how in almost every OMG SEED MORE T2 BPOs thread, a dev has stated they actively monitor the amount of T2 bpos, I'd be rather surprised if the accusations don't all end up being wrong. Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
Microsoft Sam Red Army Inc	Posted - 2007.01.31 01:35:00 - [32] ccp owes the community nothing, if you want ccp to tell us what their employees do youre going to have a long hard fight on your hands. and seriously goons, you need to learn how you handle things in eve.. we dont spam the e-o forums with DEVDEVDEV every 2 seconds because someones we all know already. this is like so old news.
Crivens GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.01.31 01:36:00 - [33] Originally by: Estarriol If there is in fact no misconduct found, it would seem fair to request that the Devs publicly clear the alleged parties, in light of the intense smear campaign which has been conducted on these forums. I heartily second this, and will add the addendum that if the reverse is found, you will announce publicly that justice has been carried out.
Widebrant GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.01.31 01:36:00 - [34] I am pleased to hear that CCP is looking into these incidents, and look forward to the conclusion of the investigation. The published information, if accurate, amounts to a serious breach of trust.
Vervel Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.01.31 01:36:00 - [35] Originally by: Eronarn Palazzo Thanks Kieron :) Next time anything like this happens, we'll try and do it in a less annoying way. Unfortunately, cooler heads did not prevail in deciding what to do, and so this unfortunate forum spam occurred. Hopefully, the involved people will realize that CCP WILL read their allegations if done in a more private manner, though it might take time to do so. get out
Welfare State GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.01.31 01:36:00 - [36] Edited by: Welfare State on 31/01/2007 01:34:07 Thank you. I was distressed to hear that some CCP members may have provided certain players with an unfair advantage and I honestly hope this is not the case.
Tau Amari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.01.31 01:37:00 - [37] Originally by: sb404 Is this where I post that I have chatlogs with Goonswarn evoking their "pocketed" GM as well, or are we just bashing on BoB and I should create my own thread? just curious. When you live in a glass house, careful not to throw stones around. Post em please.
DB Preacher Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.31 01:37:00 - [38] Kugutsmen is hilarious. He makes up a ton of rubbish then gets people to sign up to his forum and finally gets them to pay him isk to give them more rubbish and then even more isk to legitimise their accounts. So a known hacker now has: Your eve character. Your ip. Your email. Your login and password that you used on his site. A nice cookie from your pc. If you are going to sign up to the forum or give him isk just make sure that you use a completely secure ip, email and DO NOT use a login or password that you use ANYWHERE else. Otherwise, if you're forums get hacked and 6 months down the line kugutsmen/anthonyz/rycar is posting absolute tosh about peeps in your alliance then don't bother wondering why ;) dbp Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
Llynn Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.31 01:37:00 - [39] Originally by: Apsa1ar Is posting information obtained from third party sites forbidden? If so, that rule should be memorialized somewhere. I've reviewed the rules, and it doesn't appear to be against the rules. I hope that all posts containing information from third party sites, such as private corporation and alliance forums, are similarly deleted. no, rules say they ARE allowed, but the rest of the thread still has to follow the normal rules
Carnap	Posted - 2007.01.31 01:37:00 - [40] Originally by: sb404 Is this where I post that I have chatlogs with Goonswarn evoking their "pocketed" GM as well, or are we just bashing on BoB and I should create my own thread? This word-- I do not think it means what you think it means.


kieron	Posted - 2007.01.31 01:37:00 - [41] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Originally by: Foodchain Thank you. An official response is all that was needed. Maybe you should mail CCP directly next time? I would be the person to send concerns to, my e-mail address is: [email protected]. Keep in mind that I'm not online 24/7, so I do request a small indulgence of time to respond. kieron Community Manager, EVE Online

Tau Amari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.01.31 01:37:00 - [42] Originally by: Eronarn Palazzo Thanks Kieron :) Next time anything like this happens, we'll try and do it in a less annoying way. Unfortunately, cooler heads did not prevail in deciding what to do, and so this unfortunate forum spam occurred. Hopefully, the involved people will realize that CCP WILL read their allegations if done in a more private manner, though it might take time to do so. Jita, Veldspar. Now.
krystal eyes	Posted - 2007.01.31 01:38:00 - [43] Originally by: Malthros Zenobia And if the end result is that all these allegations are lies, will you and others apologize publicly for what has happened? Yes. Unreservedly, for myself.
Crivens GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.01.31 01:39:00 - [44] Originally by: krystal eyes Originally by: Malthros Zenobia And if the end result is that all these allegations are lies, will you and others apologize publicly for what has happened? Yes. Unreservedly, for myself. seconded.
Charleton Heston Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.01.31 01:39:00 - [45] Originally by: Crivens Originally by: Estarriol If there is in fact no misconduct found, it would seem fair to request that the Devs publicly clear the alleged parties, in light of the intense smear campaign which has been conducted on these forums. I heartily second this, and will add the addendum that if the reverse is found, you will announce publicly that justice has been carried out. Yea, this goes for me aswell.
sb404 Caldari Tarnak inc.	Posted - 2007.01.31 01:40:00 - [46] Originally by: Carnap Originally by: sb404 Is this where I post that I have chatlogs with Goonswarn evoking their "pocketed" GM as well, or are we just bashing on BoB and I should create my own thread? This word-- I do not think it means what you think it means. I know what it means. arouse: call forth (emotions, feelings, and responses); "arouse pity"; "raise a smile"; "evoke sympathy" I will have the logs when I log at home tonight. ------------------------------------------------- I never wrote this -Eris
Blacklight Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.31 01:41:00 - [47] I'm sure the outcomes of the investigation will be well received by the whole community, including BoB. Blog
thoradh AirHawk Alliance Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.31 01:41:00 - [48] Originally by: DB Preacher Kugutsmen is hilarious. He makes up a ton of rubbish then gets people to sign up to his forum and finally gets them to pay him isk to give them more rubbish and then even more isk to legitimise their accounts. So a known hacker now has: Your eve character. Your ip. Your email. Your login and password that you used on his site. A nice cookie from your pc. If you are going to sign up to the forum or give him isk just make sure that you use a completely secure ip, email and DO NOT use a login or password that you use ANYWHERE else. Otherwise, if you're forums get hacked and 6 months down the line kugutsmen/anthonyz/rycar is posting absolute tosh about peeps in your alliance then don't bother wondering why ;) dbp Proof or STFU. > > Noli illegitimi carborundum! >
Carnap	Posted - 2007.01.31 01:43:00 - [49] Quote: I know what it means. arouse: call forth (emotions, feelings, and responses); "arouse pity"; "raise a smile"; "evoke sympathy" I will have the logs when I log at home tonight. I'm going to evoke you via evemail to continue our rousing discussion of your poor choice of words.
DB Preacher Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.31 01:43:00 - [50] Edited by: DB Preacher on 31/01/2007 01:41:41 Originally by: thoradh Proof or STFU. No need for proof, just think before using anything that can be traced while on that website. It's at your own risk if you don't and if peeps aren't careful then it's your loss not mine. I know my conscience is clear having passed on this information. dbp Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto

Coasterbrian Gekidoku Koroshiya Buntai	Posted - 2007.01.31 01:45:00 - [51] Originally by: Estarriol ....in light of the intense smear campaign which has been conducted on these forums. Because BoB wouldn't know anything about smear campaigns.
Sinze	Posted - 2007.01.31 01:45:00 - [52] Originally by: DB Preacher kugutsmen/anthonyz/rycar rycar isn't anthonyz, he's a completely different person. He got his account hijacked by him a couple of times though.
DB Preacher Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.31 01:46:00 - [53] Edited by: DB Preacher on 31/01/2007 01:43:21 Originally by: Sinze Originally by: DB Preacher kugutsmen/anthonyz/rycar rycar isn't anthonyz, he's a completely different person. He got his account hijacked by him a couple of times though. Might wanna double check up on that one ;) A quick google search can do wonders for your information in the real world. If it isn't antonyz himself then it is someone very close to him ;P dbp Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
Kane Ululani REUNI0N Red Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.31 01:46:00 - [54] Originally by: Estarriol If there is in fact no misconduct found, it would seem fair to request that the Devs publicly clear the alleged parties, in light of the intense smear campaign which has been conducted on these forums. Will you do the same for Xirt?
sb404 Caldari Tarnak inc.	Posted - 2007.01.31 01:47:00 - [55] Originally by: Carnap Quote: I know what it means. arouse: call forth (emotions, feelings, and responses); "arouse pity"; "raise a smile"; "evoke sympathy" I will have the logs when I log at home tonight. I'm going to evoke you via evemail to continue our rousing discussion of your poor choice of words. If you must know, I used that word carefully, since it fit the situation perfectly. It was because some people where "offended" by some ruffian talk in the local channels and called upon their GM for sympathy and a "friendly" warning to the pilots in question. Funny, GMs took an hour and a half to fix my issue with lens being stuck in POS guns, but instantly appeared to sheild the ears of some of the poor Goonswam pilots in local... ------------------------------------------------- I never wrote this -Eris
rycar Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.01.31 01:51:00 - [56] Originally by: Sinze Originally by: DB Preacher kugutsmen/anthonyz/rycar rycar isn't anthonyz, he's a completely different person. He got his account hijacked by him a couple of times though. As far as I know my account hasn't ever been hijacked by AnthonyZ. Also I am not him -dbp
Sinze	Posted - 2007.01.31 01:52:00 - [57] Originally by: rycar -dbp EVERYONE has had their account hijacked by anthonyz at one time or another. He's like Smith from The Matrix - he just assumes control of anyone he needs to, when he needs to.
Bon Ali Bon's Ecological Recycling	Posted - 2007.01.31 01:52:00 - [58] Originally by: sb404 If you must know, I used that word carefully, since it fit the situation perfectly. It was because some people where "offended" by some ruffian talk in the local channels and called upon their GM for sympathy and a "friendly" warning to the pilots in question. Funny, GMs took an hour and a half to fix my issue with lens being stuck in POS guns, but instantly appeared to sheild the ears of some of the poor Goonswam pilots in local.. This is your hot and epic info? That when a hundred people petition at the same time, it gets a faster response than 1 person? hahaha oh wow. GoonSwarm is sure to crumble now, and its OBVIOUSLY on the same level as the accusations this thread is about.
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve	Posted - 2007.01.31 01:58:00 - [59] Originally by: Crivens Originally by: krystal eyes Originally by: Malthros Zenobia And if the end result is that all these allegations are lies, will you and others apologize publicly for what has happened? Yes. Unreservedly, for myself. seconded. Well, needless to say I'm sure I'm not the only one who will be interested to see if the higher ups on all sides accept judgment and, in the case of any wrongful smearing, apologize for it. We got a fair bit of response from CCP in the last incident, which was started with rather strong proof of wrongdoing, this case though... I feel bad for those who joined that guy's site though. I'd honestly do some password changes if I were you. Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
KIATolon GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.01.31 02:04:00 - [60] Originally by: kieron Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Originally by: Foodchain Thank you. An official response is all that was needed. Maybe you should mail CCP directly next time? I would be the person to send concerns to, my e-mail address is: [email protected]. Keep in mind that I'm not online 24/7, so I do request a small indulgence of time to respond. Wasn't there an issue with CCP mail :p



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