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Plim Gallente Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2007.01.31 02:06:00 - [61] There is something that hasn't been cleared up. This dev who was petitioned and accused of abusing the BPO lottery. Had he done so or not? It is all pretty vague. ----------------- Originally by: BoB forum PR Toxic sludge is good for you.
jeNK Caldari STK Scientific	Posted - 2007.01.31 02:07:00 - [62] That's what is being investigated.
Plim Gallente Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2007.01.31 02:09:00 - [63] Originally by: jeNK That's what is being investigated. It happened last July. They must not have put Columbo on the case. ----------------- Originally by: BoB forum PR Toxic sludge is good for you.
sb404 Caldari Tarnak inc.	Posted - 2007.01.31 02:11:00 - [64] Edited by: sb404 on 31/01/2007 02:07:49 Originally by: Bon Ali This is your hot and epic info? That when a hundred people petition at the same time, it gets a faster response than 1 person? hahaha oh wow. GoonSwarm is sure to crumble now, and its OBVIOUSLY on the same level as the accusations this thread is about. Gee.. sorry it's not up to your standards, for this I appolagise, I did ask before posting and got the permission to do so, next time maybe I'll ask you before. This is a thread about GM envolvement with corporations and alliances. I beleive my claim is still valid and your banter doesn't deter me one bit. Sorry to see that you feel Goonswarm will crumble under this, cheer up, life's not all that bad. ------------------------------------------------- I never wrote this -Eris
nickky01 The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2007.01.31 02:14:00 - [65] Originally by: Plim Originally by: jeNK That's what is being investigated. It happened last July. They must not have put Columbo on the case. iirc last july it was a GM, this time its a dev. ------------------------------------------- Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Oh and IAC's official response to ISS's offer is lollerskates.
Plim Gallente Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2007.01.31 02:19:00 - [66] Originally by: nickky01 Originally by: Plim Originally by: jeNK That's what is being investigated. It happened last July. They must not have put Columbo on the case. iirc last july it was a GM, this time its a dev. The info regarding Ishos being petitioned was Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 1:24 pm. Going from the info on kugutsumen's site. ----------------- Originally by: BoB forum PR Toxic sludge is good for you.
Velios M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.01.31 02:24:00 - [67] All this spying / hacking / eavesdropping and other underground methods are ruining eve. Why don't people that are into this stuff get a bloody life and go use their skills for something constructive, like tracking pedo's or terrorists down. You know... something important. M.Corp BPC Packages
j0sephine Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.31 02:25:00 - [68] "iirc last july it was a GM, this time its a dev." It's not "this time" as the supposed 'evidence' is dated back to july 2oo6. Then again, the whole thing is based on alleged copy of private communication that mentions a player was petitioned by some unspecified alt and accused of being a dev who tampered with BPO lottery. If there was indeed a dev who was forced to leave due to such practices, then there's nothing to investigate because investigation already happened and the dev was supposedly forced to leave as the result of it. But let's not get fact in the way of good forum drama :s
Lenutza GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.01.31 02:27:00 - [69] Originally by: DB Preacher Kugutsmen is hilarious. He makes up a ton of rubbish then gets people to sign up to his forum and finally gets them to pay him isk to give them more rubbish and then even more isk to legitimise their accounts. So a known hacker now has: Your eve character. Your ip. Your email. Your login and password that you used on his site. A nice cookie from your pc. If you are going to sign up to the forum or give him isk just make sure that you use a completely secure ip, email and DO NOT use a login or password that you use ANYWHERE else. Otherwise, if you're forums get hacked and 6 months down the line kugutsmen/anthonyz/rycar is posting absolute tosh about peeps in your alliance then don't bother wondering why ;) dbp I suppose I shouldnt be surprised that a DB Preacher post is full of crap. Considering he was hacking into the goonfleet forums (compromised gf.com at least twice) long before the blog was posted, I have no reason to doubt he hacked you too. It's certainly a better explanation than he's spending hours meticulously crafting anti-bob propaganda. Whether it's true or not is up to CCP. If you guys think Rycar = anthonyz your detective work is even sadder than I suspected. The one thing that's true here though, is be VERY careful with registering and visiting on his site. Even the referrer (clicking a link from your guild site) is bad news.
j0sephine Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.31 02:35:00 - [70] "It's certainly a better explanation than he's spending hours meticulously crafting anti-bob propaganda." People pay him isk to hear what he's meticulously crafting; that's quite a good reason to produce whatever he wants, especially since with his background they're buying it without second though. "he's a hacker with established track record of screwing people left right and centre, would such guy ever lie to us? impossible" impossible, indeed :s
nickky01 The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2007.01.31 02:39:00 - [71] Originally by: j0sephine Edited by: j0sephine on 31/01/2007 02:23:59 "iirc last july it was a GM, this time its a dev." It's not "this time" as the supposed 'evidence' is dated back to july 2oo6. Then again, the whole thing is based on alleged copy of private communication that mentions a player was petitioned by some unspecified alt and accused of being a dev who tampered with BPO lottery. Chinese whispers, in other words. If there was indeed a dev who was forced to leave due to such practices, then there's nothing to investigate because investigation already happened and the dev was supposedly forced to leave as the result of it. But let's not get fact in the way of good forum drama :s i think i confused you...but you confused me. last time that GM had a rattlesnake faction fitted or whatever, and the FIXie killed him and got banned, and caused all that drama...thats what i was talking about. THAT time it was a GM...THIS time (as in what they are supposedly investigating whatever happend a year ago) is a dev. i really dont know what i'm talking about, so yeah, lets just watch the forum drama and lol to ourselves \o/ ------------------------------------------- Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Oh and IAC's official response to ISS's offer is lollerskates.
Rhaegar Targarin Minmatar	Posted - 2007.01.31 02:48:00 - [72] We want blood. Rhaegar Targarin - Minmatar Combat Pilot
Oddjob187 Merch Industrial We Are Nice Guys	Posted - 2007.01.31 02:55:00 - [73] This thread is awesome. So if it all turns out to be true can we load the BPO's into cans in Jita and shoot them one by one and send BoB the fraps? On a more real note, I am finding it hard to believe someone with rent or a mortgage would put his job on the line just to provide his alliance with a few BPO's. Lets hope this gets resolved before 2008.
Phrixus Zephyr D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.01.31 02:57:00 - [74] Originally by: Velios All this spying / hacking / eavesdropping and other underground methods are ruining eve. Why don't people that are into this stuff get a bloody life and go use their skills for something constructive, like tracking pedo's or terrorists down. You know... something important. It's escalation. Someone defects and gives away secrets. Someone else skips the defection and plants a spy. Someone uses the spy to listen to TS servers. Someone skips the alt and hacks a password to get onto the TS. Someone else couldn't give a toss what they're saying and just crashes ther server. Someone else crashes their website and killboard. Someone uses a spy to take pictures and text from a third party websites to slander a number of alliances. Someone else hasnt the time to get spies into alliances and just goes straight for the website and links it. You throw a fist, he gets a knife, you get a pistol, he gets a semi-automatic. This ** has been building for a couple of years now. TS servers and websites have been attacked on and off for as long as i've been in eve. It doesn't matter who started it, or who's doing most of it, or even who's is more honorable. Im fairly certain alot of people from a number of alliance's have knowledge or have taken part in various activities like this. What's interesting is the third party linking that is getting deamed 'unacceptable and rule breaking' when in last 6 months certain nameless alliances have been doing exactly the same thing. . . Whether these accusations are true or not, who knows. To me there didn't seem to be any implication of BPO lottery rigging. All the messages said was 'He's got these BPOs and hes getting petitioned'. Whether people knew he was a dev/GM who shouldn't im sure is open to interpretation. Originally by:** Ice Conch In soviet russia, soap drops you!
The Mittani GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.01.31 02:59:00 - [75] Ah, AnthonyZ. We have a long history with him. It's not pleasant. But we keep our troubles quiet, these days. At first, he made 'Snigg comics' and tried to infiltrate us by buying something like 6 SA accounts. Then he hacked our forums, over and over and over again. He still does it, but we've decided at this point that everyone in the galaxy reads SpaceGBS and there's no way we can secure a 5000-member forum entirely so we've basically given up at trying to keep him out. If a spy wants to try to keep track of the mess without getting infected with goon culture, good for him. Hacking our forum wasn't enough of course; he proceeded to post bunch of threads onto CAOD using a variety of alts. Our dread thread, op timings, the whole lot. For a while you couldn't come into this cesspool of a forum without hitting 5 'GOON' AnthonyZ threads. Oh, yeah, he hacked my account, my PM box, and exposed a good number of my agents by crapping the contents of that PM box all over EVE. I now know not to trust my pm box or anything on goonfleet.com, a harsh lesson, duly learned. We had a 'wipeout' in the GIA back in November when he captured an admin-level full mirror of goonfleet.com and managed to piece together a nearly full agent list by trolling through archived PMs. The ultimate AnthonyZ burn against us was when he was hired by Lallante, at the price of 500m isk a week, to get access to Remedial's own goonfleet.com account. Our paypal info was there, full access to our Illuminati forums, the works. All his PMs, his personal information, everything. It was very bad, the mother of all security breaches. This is really amusing consider Velios' 'LV WOULD NEVER DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS' bit of chestbeating above given that they were the first people to put Anthony 'on retainer'. Anyways. AnthonyZ around this time decided that he'd finished utterly raping our forums and that he was bored; our poor server admins had basically had heart attacks over trying to keep him out and couldn't. Now that he's had his way with us he's apparently decided that sticking it to BoB would make him a lot more popular and be much more profitable than sticking it to goons. No one really cares about the forum secrets of SpaceGBS, but tweaking BoB's nose in public keeps the 'donations' flowing. I don't where -dbp is going with the line that Rycar is secretly a deranged Frenchman in Jakarta with a penchant for unauthorized access. CCP can confirm that the AnthonyZ accounts and Rycar's are separate very quickly. I turn your towers off, steal your hangars, abscond with your wallets and post excerpts from your forums by way of 100% natural GIA agents, not by resorting to hacking. We have a lot of goon spies, and it's seen as a noble and honorable goon profession, so I have a lot of volunteers and thus a lot of intel. But they're not hackers, and they're not computer geniuses. My boys are just as susceptible to the new D2 method as anyone else, until we can find a way to reliably mask ips on teamspeak rather than just on the forums. About the only advice I can give is to batten down your director forums as best you can, don't trust any commercial or open source forum software, and make your passwords complicated alphanumeric strings... and then pray that he gets bored of dumping your dirty laundry in public and goes after someone else. Good luck.
Ominus Decre The Older Gamers R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.01.31 03:04:00 - [76] My only action will be to spend my money somewhere else. EVE was fun while it lasted, too bad CCP no longer has any credibility.
Recluse Viramor Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.31 03:12:00 - [77] losing credibility indeed Signature filesize exceeds max limit of 24000 bytes. Mail us if you have questions -Ivan K

kieron	Posted - 2007.01.31 03:17:00 - [78] Originally by: nickky01 last time that GM had a rattlesnake faction fitted or whatever, and the FIXie killed him and got banned, and caused all that drama...thats what i was talking about. THAT time it was a GM...THIS time (as in what they are supposedly investigating whatever happend a year ago) is a dev. True, over the summer of '06 a GM was terminated for spawning items for himself on TQ, we investigated the incident and posted a news item about what had transpired. What happened then will also happen now, an investigation will take place and proper action will be taken. kieron Community Manager, EVE Online

Ben Derindar KelBen Productions	Posted - 2007.01.31 03:28:00 - [79] Edited by: Ben Derindar on 31/01/2007 03:29:16 This is so depressing. Shame on BoB leadership if it is proven that this dev character indeed abused his position. Shame on the goons for the very public way in which they have clearly tried to take advantage of a situation that likely took a few broken laws to create. And shame on CCP for not acting unless a forum avalanche hits - it's like the Angel 8/10 exploit all over again. Somebody remind me why I play this game again...? /Ben How to fix Eve
Xthril Ranger hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.01.31 03:29:00 - [80] Originally by: kieron Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Originally by: Foodchain Thank you. An official response is all that was needed. Maybe you should mail CCP directly next time? I would be the person to send concerns to, my e-mail address is: [email protected]. Keep in mind that I'm not online 24/7, so I do request a small indulgence of time to respond. I was wondering. You are not allowed to talk about conversations and rulings done by GMs and devs. It was clearly that those posting in this case thought the regular eve-gamer should be aware of this. Wouldnt this rule out the normal email and petition since they then wouldnt be allowed to talk about it afterwards? And wouldnt it really be easier to make an forum announcement than mailing 5000 goons? you'll never jump alone
0August0 Gallente Gooch Unlimited	Posted - 2007.01.31 03:30:00 - [81] Originally by: Ominus Decre My only action will be to spend my money somewhere else. EVE was fun while it lasted, too bad CCP no longer has any credibility. Oh, erm, uh. Can I have your stuff? . . . Regards, August
arkarsk Provenance.	Posted - 2007.01.31 03:31:00 - [82] ----------------- http://www.eve-provenance.com
Kaylana Syi Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.01.31 03:36:00 - [83] Edited by: Kaylana Syi on 31/01/2007 03:32:59 Could we get 5 yardware servers dedictated to running an official custom, ingame, private forum system for corporations and alliances ( even make it an isk sink ) that can RSS feed outside of EVE? I think that will allow us to have our cake and eat it too without hackers ruining the community. One of your Sigs contained inappropriate material for the eve-o forums, please email [email protected] for a explination. - hutch Team Minmatar Carriers need Clone Vats
Galimiy Portret R.u.S.H. Red Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.31 03:43:00 - [84] The GMs aren't giving out free t2 BPOs as they almost certainly have all GM commands logged what they can do is give their friends a discrete, private heads-up on say, upcoming changes, so they can dump their cap recharger II bpo a week before invention more than halves the profit --- for instance, i'm pretty sure at least two were sold via alts immediately before revelations. it isn't even about profit anyway, they can simply gain an intricate knowledge of the game from talking to coders, game designers and so forth that normal players do not have access to, and they can pass this knowledge on without anybody ever knowing unless they spend 24/7 on CCP grounds and CCP is actually an Orwellian regime. ...now in RED
The Mittani GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.01.31 03:47:00 - [85] Originally by: Kaylana Syi Edited by: Kaylana Syi on 31/01/2007 03:32:59 Could we get 5 yardware servers dedictated to running an official custom, ingame, private forum system for corporations and alliances ( even make it an isk sink ) that can RSS feed outside of EVE? I think that will allow us to have our cake and eat it too without hackers ruining the community. Sometimes Anthony will use a full-on hack, like when he mirrored goonfleet.com and rooted through my PMs. Apparently this is what Reikoku is suffering from as well. Other times he'll just use a plain old password *****, either guessing your member's passwords or using a rainbow table. The server you suggest might be more secure against the former type of attack, but human stupidity and a refusal to make secure passwords makes basic level access impossible to secure. While /now/ he may appear to be doing a public service by allegedly exposing CCP misconduct (who knows, it could all be a fabrication), who is to say what he'll do in a month, or six months? The kneejerk anti-BoB sentiment is a powerful one, and that's fine, but your anti-BoB hero may turn out to be the villian in the next act.
Urban II	Posted - 2007.01.31 03:49:00 - [86] Originally by: kieron Originally by: nickky01 last time that GM had a rattlesnake faction fitted or whatever, and the FIXie killed him and got banned, and caused all that drama...thats what i was talking about. THAT time it was a GM...THIS time (as in what they are supposedly investigating whatever happend a year ago) is a dev. True, over the summer of '06 a GM was terminated for spawning items for himself on TQ, we investigated the incident and posted a news item about what had transpired. What happened then will also happen now, an investigation will take place and proper action will be taken. Thank you. I apologise for having to spam the forums, but from what I remember about the Scorpion incident, it took...more community pressure than it should have to get that resolved. In the future, instead of nuking my posts to that extent, a simple "We're investigating" and closing it would have sufficed. We may not care about politics, the forums, or honor, but we do care (very much) about this game.
Xthril Ranger hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.01.31 03:49:00 - [87] Originally by: Kaylana Syi Edited by: Kaylana Syi on 31/01/2007 03:32:59 Could we get 5 yardware servers dedictated to running an official custom, ingame, private forum system for corporations and alliances ( even make it an isk sink ) that can RSS feed outside of EVE? I think that will allow us to have our cake and eat it too without hackers ruining the community. so bob can read all the forums without evening bothering to plant spies? you'll never jump alone
matty01 The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2007.01.31 04:12:00 - [88] well, regardless of what has happened, and whats being investigated, i think any devs/gm's playing this game in any alliance will be much more careful with what they do on those accounts __________________________
Devilish Ledoux Caldari Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.01.31 04:42:00 - [89] Originally by: Ben Derindar Somebody remind me why I play this game again...? You're addicted, duh. We all are. _ Sig removed, lacks game related content. Please contact [email protected] for more info (including a copy of your picture!) -Pirlouit
James Snowscoran Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.01.31 04:43:00 - [90] It's damn sad and pathetic that people will resort to breaking the law to create a smear campaign over a clan in a computer game... Personally, I don't care so much one way or another. Even if the allegations and tinfoilhattery turns out to be true, it's just a too small thing to get worked up over in my life. Maybe you should try to redirect your energy at something more constructive -----

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