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Sunder Tseng Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.31 14:59:00 - [241] Originally by: Dianabolic rofl, ishos was promoted to cap ship guy without his request, because he knew what he was doing, I convinced him to do it, and we were thankful of it. BUT WAIT ONLY DEVS KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING! Right? LMAO Question: Did you, or did you not, know that Ishos was a dev prior to his leaving RKK ---- it is a tale/Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,/Signifying nothing.
Godolphin Caldari Black Omega Security Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.31 15:01:00 - [242] Just read prevoius POSTS OMFG!!!! if its true its what i have always thought!!! BOB = CCP or Band of CCP... think lots of peeps will think off moving on from the game if this happens...SHAME ON U!!!
NTRabbit Caldari Guiding Hand Social Club	Posted - 2007.01.31 15:01:00 - [243] Originally by: gofoi Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: Victor Vision Did you or did you not get t2 BPOs from a dev char? We've received bpos from many characters, one of our pilots recently gave us a tracking disruptor II bpo, I bet he's a dev aswell, yes? Simple enough for you? Man this is pittyfull you're acting like a little kid trying to hide a stolen lollipop from his mom. You did not answer Victor's question : did you accept or not a bpo from a DEV? Yes Dianabolic, answer the question - are you now or have you ever been a member of the American Communist Party? ------
DB Preacher Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.31 15:02:00 - [244] Edited by: DB Preacher on 31/01/2007 15:01:18 Originally by: gofoi Either he just took too much time to actualy create all those logs to try to accuse BOB, Or, more realistically, he took some snippets of private convo's and made them appear to be much more than they are with smart editing and random open-ended conjecture and the eve-public, looking for BoB to be made a scapegoat regardless of the real life consequences, lapped it up. Originally by: gofoi either thoses logs are true and have existed, in wich case we won't see you and other "so-called-involved-people" anytime soon on those boards. Exactly. dbp Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
Victor Vision Central Intelligence Service	Posted - 2007.01.31 15:03:00 - [245] Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: Victor Vision Dianabolic, did you not also say there were no devs in BOB? We've never said there were no devs in bob, we've always said that even if there are, we still don't care - and that goes for every alliance in this game. In fact, if you can be bothered to research my posts, you'd see that I HOPE THERE ARE DEVS IN EVERY ALLIANCE. How on earth else are they going to improve this game, if they do not play it? Mind reading? Ok, so you never said there were no devs in BOB. By the way, do you mind reading? My opinion on devs playing on TQ can be found in this thread, it is a few minutes old. It is pretty similar to your opinion. Linky. Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: Victor Vision Did you or did you not get t2 BPOs from a dev char? We've received bpos from many characters, one of our pilots recently gave us a tracking disruptor II bpo, I bet he's a dev aswell, yes? Simple enough for you? No, not simple enough. In fact you are sidestepping the question. Let me repeat: Did you or did you not recieve t2 BPOs from a dev char? A simple yes or no will clear this up. In my business there is no black, nor white. Just a million different shades of grey.
DTee Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.31 15:04:00 - [246] Edited by: DTee on 31/01/2007 15:05:18 Originally by: SamuraiJack So we have been imagining BoB on the old ASCN TS? Imagining the hacking and trawling of the ASCN forums? And when the BoB forums start getting posted on here then ISD acts? After months of the crap being done to us? Sorry... You can call tinfoil all you want. It looks definitly like favouritism to me. Hacking is a crime. Ingame spying is not a crime. Dont make yourself look more stupid then you already have. Being bitter about having your ass handed to you isn't always an acceptable excuse for poor conduct. For all the pathetic bandwagoning lamers, quit crying. Wait for the investigation to reach a conclusion. Another thing to add is that regardless of the Dev being in BoB this is a matter CCP must investigate. BoB members dont know if there is a Dev. If any foul play has been comitted its up to CCP to resolve it and handle the issues. Host of The DT show - Thursdays 16:00 - 18:00 . Listen to BoB Radio now!
NTRabbit Caldari Guiding Hand Social Club	Posted - 2007.01.31 15:05:00 - [247] Originally by: Victor Vision Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: Victor Vision Dianabolic, did you not also say there were no devs in BOB? We've never said there were no devs in bob, we've always said that even if there are, we still don't care - and that goes for every alliance in this game. In fact, if you can be bothered to research my posts, you'd see that I HOPE THERE ARE DEVS IN EVERY ALLIANCE. How on earth else are they going to improve this game, if they do not play it? Mind reading? Ok, so you never said there were no devs in BOB. By the way, do you mind reading? My opinion on devs playing on TQ can be found in this thread, it is a few minutes old. It is pretty similar to your opinion. Linky. Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: Victor Vision Did you or did you not get t2 BPOs from a dev char? We've received bpos from many characters, one of our pilots recently gave us a tracking disruptor II bpo, I bet he's a dev aswell, yes? Simple enough for you? No, not simple enough. In fact you are sidestepping the question. Let me repeat: Did you or did you not recieve t2 BPOs from a dev char? A simple yes or no will clear this up. A simple question for thee, Dianabolic - art thou now, or hath thy ever been a witch? ------
Dianabolic Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.31 15:06:00 - [248] Originally by: gofoi Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: Victor Vision Did you or did you not get t2 BPOs from a dev char? We've received bpos from many characters, one of our pilots recently gave us a tracking disruptor II bpo, I bet he's a dev aswell, yes? Simple enough for you? Man this is pittyfull you're acting like a little kid trying to hide a stolen lollipop from his mom. You did not answer Victor's question : did you accept or not a bpo from a DEV? Name the devs and I'll answer each one individually, the answer is alread there. Quote: 2006.12.18 23:46:04 Notify Phoenix belonging to nOrAb self-destructs.
Angry Dan Caldari Momentum. Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.01.31 15:06:00 - [249] Originally by: kieron CCP is aware there are members of the community concerned over allegations of Dev misconduct coming from a third party message board and those community members are intent upon getting 'their story out to the people'. CCP has investigated, and will continue to investigate allegations of misconduct and take actions accordingly. This instance is no different from past investigations that have resulted in actions ranging from permanent game bans to termination of employment. Continuing to post information from third party sites, spamming the forums, breaking the forum rules, etc. will not speed along the investigative process. Post discussion in this thread and please follow the forum rules. To put it bluntly, CCP's impartiality has been called into question. Therefore, strong measures need to be taken to restore faith in the impartiality of the system THAT MEANS END THE SECRECY. I understand that certain details would need to be suppressed (IE names), but the results of the investigation, and the steps taken to prove that your GM's are impartial need to be provided to the community. If you don't understand what happens when the umpire's can't be trusted, just read up on Darrell Hair and what damage that is caused when the impartiality of umpires is called into question. Justice should not only be done, but should be seen to be done. And right now, in this game, we can't see it being done, so how can we trust that is being done? Having been on the end of some dubious GM decisions myself (how was it my fault that our POS got exploited by a known bug?), the lack of transparency makes it difficult to see or trust what is happening. Founder member of the Huzzah Federation. Remember, the grass is greener on our side of the fence Originally by: Butter Dog Good Sportsmanship > Winning.
Anonymous Coward Gallente Panopticon Citadel	Posted - 2007.01.31 15:07:00 - [250] I'm just sitting here laughing at the BoB bloc with this "are you a communist/witch" hilarity. The truth never damages a just cause. And it's a damned simple question.
jeNK Caldari STK Scientific	Posted - 2007.01.31 15:08:00 - [251] Edited by: jeNK on 31/01/2007 15:04:38 Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: jeNK I still find it amazing you're calling him a hacker, personally. What would you call it? Someone who has a friend.. EDIT: in convinient places.
demandforbrains	Posted - 2007.01.31 15:08:00 - [252] Originally by: DTee Hacking is a crime. Spying is not a crime. Dont make yourself look more stupid then you already have. Being bitter about having your ass handed to you isn't always acceptable excuse for poor conduct. Pretexting is pretty illegal in a lot of places, buddy
Dianabolic Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.31 15:08:00 - [253] Oh, and communism and witchcraft go hand in hand :D Quote: 2006.12.18 23:46:04 Notify Phoenix belonging to nOrAb self-destructs.
NTRabbit Caldari Guiding Hand Social Club	Posted - 2007.01.31 15:08:00 - [254] Originally by: Anonymous Coward I'm just sitting here laughing at the BoB bloc with this "are you a communist/witch" hilarity. The truth never damages a just cause. And it's a damned simple question. Curious question, but since when is the Guiding Hand Social Club a member of the BoB bloc? ------
SamuraiJack Caldari Celestial Horizon Corp.	Posted - 2007.01.31 15:08:00 - [255] Originally by: DTee Hacking is a crime. Spying is not a crime. Dont make yourself look more stupid then you already have. Being bitter about having your ass handed to you isn't always an acceptable excuse for poor conduct. Whatever. I am mearly pointing out the bias that is prevelent in the forums. Oh and I shall be charging for the "Proof or STFU". I expect a 1bil payment from BoB shortly. SJ. CLS Director =-
gofoi Rage and Terror	Posted - 2007.01.31 15:10:00 - [256] Originally by: NTRabbit Yes Dianabolic, answer the question - are you now or have you ever been a member of the American Communist Party? I don't get it, sorry.
Anonymous Coward Gallente Panopticon Citadel	Posted - 2007.01.31 15:10:00 - [257] Originally by: NTRabbit Curious question, but since when is the Guiding Hand Social Club a member of the BoB bloc? You absolutely have my apologies, I looked at your avatar rather than the corp text underneath and thought you were someone else. However, I still don't think it's an apt comparison.
market pricechecker	Posted - 2007.01.31 15:11:00 - [258] Originally by: gofoi Originally by: NTRabbit Yes Dianabolic, answer the question - are you now or have you ever been a member of the American Communist Party? I don't get it, sorry. He's pulling a godwin corrollary
MetalZero Minmatar Thundercats RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.31 15:12:00 - [259] hummm...shame ....till no answer ....well ...waiting Kieron ..... i till have faith ___________ ThunderCats
Anonymous Coward Gallente Panopticon Citadel	Posted - 2007.01.31 15:12:00 - [260] Also, shouldn't this really be in General Discussion rather than CAOD?
Verone Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.01.31 15:13:00 - [261] ... NEWEST MOVIE : VETO FOR HIRE
Hennry Fromer Gallente TRSG Research	Posted - 2007.01.31 15:14:00 - [262] I think I have seen this pattern before; "Shes a witch - tie a weight to her and toss her in the lake if she floats we will burn her and if she drowns she was innocent." As in newspapers Accusations are potsed on the front page and appologies are on page 26b, CCP has acknoledged the isue and they will look into it; to properlly investigate anythig takes time. Could there have manipulation yes anything is possible; Should we hold an execution before the investigation - No. As to the should dev play or not - Absolutelly they should play the game, If you have no passion for what you do and it is just a paycheck you need to switch jobs. Hacking sites and introducing real life information to a game is just wrong - no good can come of it at all. It should be severlly punished, not only because it does real world harm but it also potentially exposes CCP to litigation. I hope this is thoughtfully and thourghlly investigated, action taken and the relevant facts posted for all to see. These views are not reflective of the viwes of my corp or corpmates . . . If I have failed to take my medication today they probablly aren't my views either.
Hardin Amarr Imperial Shipment	Posted - 2007.01.31 15:14:00 - [263] STOP WITH THE FECKING WITCH HUNT Devs play EVE. Some Devs are in BoB and some are in other alliances. That is beyond dispute. What is in dispute is whether the devs have used their 'magical powers' to influence the game. I personally do not believe that to be the case and I have seen ZERO evidence that they have. I have won 3 BPOs in the lottery over time. If I decided to leave the game and give them to my alliance would that be evidence that I was a dev? No it wouldn't... Devs in BoB - yes Devs in other alliances - yes Devs cheating to assist ingame alliances - proof or stfu... ------------------------------ CVA - Kicking Arse For The Empire - http://eve-files.com/dl/83607 AMARR VICTOR
gofoi Rage and Terror	Posted - 2007.01.31 15:14:00 - [264] Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: gofoi did you accept or not a bpo from a DEV? Name the devs and I'll answer each one individually, the answer is alread there. Diana, seriously, just answer the question! It's for you! Make a move, accept to take position, prove us that you're absolutely sure that you've never accepted a BPO from a Dev by simply saying yes or no. Of course you can chose to say nothing, it's your own right, but then you can undesrtand my point of view : If diana doesn't fully take part, he knows something's going wrong.
DTee Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.31 15:15:00 - [265] Edited by: DTee on 31/01/2007 15:13:31 Originally by: Hardin STOP WITH THE FECKING WITCH HUNT Devs play EVE. Some Devs are in BoB and some are in other alliances. That is beyond dispute. What is in dispute is whether the devs have used their 'magical powers' to influence the game. I personally do not believe that to be the case and I have seen ZERO evidence that they have. I have won 3 BPOs in the lottery over time. If I decided to leave the game and give them to my alliance would that be evidence that I was a dev? No it wouldn't... Devs in BoB - yes Devs in other alliances - yes Devs cheating to assist ingame alliances - proof or stfu... Finally, Someone with more intelligence then the BoB smacking bandwagon. Taking a BPO from a DEV who are without cheating won a BPO, since when is there anything wrong with that?! I personally am not part of RKK and how they operate neither do I know what BPO's they have or how they got them. Host of The DT show - Thursdays 16:00 - 18:00 . Listen to BoB Radio now!
jeNK Caldari STK Scientific	Posted - 2007.01.31 15:18:00 - [266] gofoi, you're question should read "Did you ever knowingly accept a T2 BPO, or multiples, from a dev?" Dianabolic may well have accepted BPO's from person X, but not known they were Dev's (and still not know.)
Anonymous Coward Gallente Panopticon Citadel	Posted - 2007.01.31 15:19:00 - [267] Originally by: Hennry Fromer I think I have seen this pattern before; "Shes a witch - tie a weight to her and toss her in the lake if she floats we will burn her and if she drowns she was innocent." Dianabolic could choose to say, "I have never knowingly received a BPO from a dev", the thing about this question is that there are no false positives.
Dianabolic Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.31 15:20:00 - [268] Edited by: Dianabolic on 31/01/2007 15:17:38 Originally by: gofoi Diana, seriously, just answer the question! It's for you! Make a move, accept to take position, prove us that you're absolutely sure that you've never accepted a BPO from a Dev by simply saying yes or no. Of course you can chose to say nothing, it's your own right, but then you can undesrtand my point of view : If diana doesn't fully take part, he knows something's going wrong. gofoi, given the pathetic witch hunt that is going on if you want answers you're going to have to get specific. No Dev has EVER given me, or anyone in RKK, any blueprint of any kind. (to my knowledge and all that jazz). I spoke to Joveur one though, in-game, I ransomed him in fdz. He didn't pay. Quote: 2006.12.18 23:46:04 Notify Phoenix belonging to nOrAb self-destructs.
Victor Vision Central Intelligence Service	Posted - 2007.01.31 15:22:00 - [269] Edited by: Victor Vision on 31/01/2007 15:23:59 Edited by: Victor Vision on 31/01/2007 15:23:29 Edited by: Victor Vision on 31/01/2007 15:19:00 Edited: Dianabolic, the answer you gave only implies you did not get any BPOs from a dev directly. Would it also be true to say: "No dev char has, to my knowledge, given me or left with reikoku, any t2 BPO?" In my business there is no black, nor white. Just a million different shades of grey.
Otellus Imperial Shipment	Posted - 2007.01.31 15:24:00 - [270] Edited by: Otellus on 31/01/2007 15:22:16 Damn alt. Stupid forum settings.

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