Hi Mates,

We're seeding the 4 Racial Force Auxiliary skills in February, along with skills for Light Fighter Squadrons and Support Fighter Squadrons.
Any character with Tactical Logistics Reconfiguration, a Carrier and Force Auxiliary skill (of the same race) injected when the citadels expansion launches, will have the racial carrier skillpoints refunded as unallocated skillpoints. These skillpoints can be reallocated instantly as the player desires.

If you start training the Force Auxiliary skill after the patch tomorrow, you can reallocate your refunded skillpoints right back into your racial carrier skill so you can fly both ships. Or spend them on anything you like!

There'll be a dev-blog going into more details about our transition plans for Carriers, Force Auxiliaries and a bunch of other stuff, coming out later this week.


Cheers,
CCP Larrikin

What-¦s happening to existing Fighter and Bomber skills? Will they also be reallocated with citadel release?

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What-¦s happening to existing Fighter and Bomber skills? Will they also be reallocated with citadel release?

Well, the timing is perfect in that regard, so this line of reasoning probably plays a role. But it does make sense to split it up, even beyond pushing SP trading in our faces. They explained it rather well: Carriers are real multitalents - they can deal damage through fighters, they can repair, they can boost, they have a refitting service and a ship hangar. Therefore it's by far the superior choice for most people for their "first capital" over Dreadnoughts. It makes a lot more sense to have another class just for the support roles so every capital is a decent choice as first venture into the world of capital ships.

But then, it doesn't make much sense to have two completely different classes covered by the same skill. Now we have:

Racial Dreadnought + Tactical Weapon Reconfiguration for in your face DPS
Racial Carrier + Fighters for variable long range DPS and anti-support
Racial FAX + Tactical Logistics Reconfiguration for logistics

Its neat and tidy and makes a lot of sense.

Even if it weren't acceptable - what can we do, really? CCP have shown that they don't give a flying **** about their players opinions anymore. The only way to show them that something is not acceptable is to leave the game. But if we do that, why would we care what CCP does in the future?

So, it's either staying with the game if we still enjoy it, or quitting the game if we don't.

Racial Dreadnought + Tactical Reconfiguration
Racial Fleet Auxiliary Support + Carrier + Fighters
Racial Fleet Auxiliary Support + FAX + Triage.

Your idea is so amazing, if only CCP could have thought of it....
Oh wait they did and discarded it because it failed to meet one of their aims, which was that any of the capitals should be equal value first trains for someone new to caps.

Your idea yet again leaves the Dread skill out as the poor cousin, something they specifically were designing to prevent. Their current solution is actually the ideal solution, yes it hurts having to spend training time to be able to both DPS & Logi perfectly again, but at the end of the day it is the best solution available for their given design requirements.

Where are the new skill requirements for the stasis grapplers? Where is the unique bowhead skill? Or is it just cap pilots who get the good news?

Uh, that would be called Ore Freighter, a skill which only does the Bowhead?
Seriously, at least try to know what you are whining about.

Please dont make me create a reddit account. Nobody wants that.

When you've managed to **** off everyone with a transition you know you're doing it wrong.

Or you know people were expecting to be handed stuff for free and didn't...

Funny how you made a mistake and acknowledged it. Unlike the two trolls in here who are factually or conceptually wrong on nearly everything they say but just ignore it like it didnt happen lol.

Dont forget about new skills for the T1 frigate and cruiser logi. Not only do they not fall into the regular combat cruiser role. they are dramatically different to their previous incarnation.

CCP must have forgot to give them new skills when they got their logistics role.

Its not the lack of free stuff most people are annoyed with, but the lack of accurate information so we can make an informed decision on the best route that annoys people.

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Literally noone wants new skills for free. People just want to be able to do what they have already trained for.

I can fly a combat carrier, i can fly a triage carrier. they could have introduced a new ship in the carrier line without creating a new skill since both roles are preexisting.

The fact that you have to misrepresent peoples objections as wanting free stuff really speaks volumes about your purpose here.

The fact that CCP introduced these ships in the way that they did also speaks volumes.

It doesnt matter how much misguided apologetics you throw at it, you are still nothing more than a troll. People complaining about legitimate issues on a forum is what forums are for. People complaining about people complaining is a little bit sad mate.

What you trianed for is a carrier. Up to 4 carrier in fact and if you trained for them, you will be able to fly them. No ship that you were ever able to fly will become unavailable to be flown by you when citadels hit unless you put your SP elsewhere.

If you have any example of any SHIPS you can fly and won't be able to when the patch hit, then list it. Beside that, anything else you are asking for is skill to fly a ship you could not fly before and that is something CCP don't have to grant you.