Confirming missile skills were useful to a dedicated Naglfar pilot.
CCP have changed ship roles many a time in the past which left a 'dedicated' pilot of just that ship with skills that were no longer applicable to that ship.
That however is not CCP's problem in overall game design but yours in insisting that the only ship you can and will ever fly is that particular ship.

However when this precedent comes around to something you do care about, I'll be sure to remind you all to htfu.

^this and it should be non racial its giant logistics and to train carrier and fax would still be long train but you could cross train easier much like current logistics. if it works for other logistics why change it for carrier... oh wait i forgot you hirred Maria Sayans and you have to make people pay for injectors.

The new Fax is a big imprvement to the game and changes the ways how capital logistics work. It is not " An archon with a new skin. "

Besides, its going to be fun for the first month watching people race too 5. Going to be a good month. Also locked.

when the citadels expansion launches

Guys. Really. Yes, some of us have 2 or 5 characters with maxed out skills for several racial capitals. But. We are flying multi-billion ISK capital ships. Into combat, for ratting or just ship spinning.

We are talking about a few hundred mil or a few bil (and the latter only for those among us who spend the same amount each month on subscriptions).
Just go out and make ISK for a few hours - if you are max skill (and I mean player ;-) ), you should know how.
Yes I know that everyone has a Jita alt and likes haggling and free stuff, but we could really do better things than starting a forum war over nothing (like log in and fly spaceships).
I am really confident that no new players or spacepoor people are hurt by the suggested transition procedure.

In short: to solve this whole reimbursement issue...
STOP BEING POOR!

When will the dev blog be out telling up the 'set in stone' stats for the 4 faxs?

We are being told to train the new skills and that we have time to train then but not being told what those skills will even do on the different fax hulls.

' oh just train the Armar one for armour' is NOT good enough!

For the price of those skill books I want to know what I'll be getting.

Information about Fax is not enough.
They will be using reps on something so stats for supers, dreads, combat capitals.
What we know about titans? They will be getting new doomsdays.
Dreads? Ship and fleet hangars
Motherships ? ??????

Citadels, they will also define what you will bring on field.

Maybe after knowing this you will not aim into the amarr fax, but minmatar one as for some strange reason it will be only Fax capable surviving on the new battlefield.

I noticed that the skills for Light Fighter Squadrons and Support Fighter Squadrons have the same multiplier as the Fighter and Fighter Bomber skills. I fail to see much sense in it, since light drone skill has lower multiplier than heavy drone skill.

If you remove a skill, can we get the cost of the skillbook refunded?

" you don't get to do tomorrow what you can do today".

Guys. Really. Yes, some of us have 2 or 5 characters with maxed out skills for several racial capitals. But. We are flying multi-billion ISK capital ships. Into combat, for ratting or just ship spinning.

We are talking about a few hundred mil or a few bil (and the latter only for those among us who spend the same amount each month on subscriptions).
Just go out and make ISK for a few hours - if you are max skill (and I mean player ;-) ), you should know how.
Yes I know that everyone has a Jita alt and likes haggling and free stuff, but we could really do better things than starting a forum war over nothing (like log in and fly spaceships).
I am really confident that no new players or spacepoor people are hurt by the suggested transition procedure.

In short: to solve this whole reimbursement issue...
STOP BEING POOR!

Which amount to **** all since CCP's rule was always if you can fly ship X today, you will be able to fly it tomorrow. If you can fly an Caldari carrier today, you will be able to fly it come citadel unless YOU CHOOSE to use the option provided to spec out of it.

If your gonna cry about the "wasted" and "useless" skill for a dedicated X pilot, then remember this is the exact same way they handled to Orca skill shuffle where people were "stuck" with barge skill for example. CCP is following their usual rules quite to the letter in this case but people expect them to deviate from the usual procedure.

It's not unheard of for people to be left with non optimal skills. As was told to Orca pilots back then, your skill are not useless. You just decide not to use them.

i'm not upset about the cost i'm upset that i now have to wait over 200 days to do what i can do now

but the ship i can fly now will not be here when the citadel release hits its getting cut in half. one half is just keeping the same name and model

As already stated; should have waited until the ships are ready and changed tactical logistics reconfiguration to the force auxiliary skill. The way this was handled was ham handed and silly. You guys have done this reworking skills thing multiple times now and done it decently... why screw us over all the sudden?

Yes it will be. If you had an Archon, you will still be able to fly an archon. If you could fly a chimera, you will still be able to fly a chimera. People could still fly their geddons after the change to a neut platform even if the way they used to use it was no longer functionnal.

Rather than just giving a blanket refund of those skill points have it come up as a pop up asking would you like to refund these skill points or making it an option on the skill queue somehow.

Also what happens to those pilots currently sat in a pos somewhere in there carriers or supers do they lose there sp?