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Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2007.02.07 19:00:00 - [1] Aliases, people come into EVE thinking they'll do the trial or just stay for a few hours then they're hooked and don't want to go back and create a new character or even won't see the added benefits of sporting a real name till much later. When they months later have grown dead tired of being Hugh Janus or Dao2 enter alias'! It works as follow; People pay a certain amount of ingame currency for the privilege of a new name and field it much like a petition, fixed sum would range from 100M to 1B, ideally in an increasing fee for repeat offenders, doubling every time. Their old name is added to a list much like employment history and is easy to find for those wondering where their old nemesis went. I'd also like for there to be an on creation name generator, a tool to help those among us who know they can't think of an immersive name to save their lives. You like your nickname? There's nothing saying you can't have nicknames on the side of a real name, hell even in my outfit being name facists we nickname people left right and center. Programming this you might want to add a unique podpilot number to each character which can never be altered, that way people who against all odds spam up name changes can never outrun who they truly are should the repoman come knocking. Also Known As
Vincent Almasy Gallente The Underground	Posted - 2007.02.07 19:31:00 - [2] I like this idea but just as a little game or a isk sink for RP effect. It be a randomizer for names based on the race so a more Gallente or a more Amarrian name, to add a little flavor
Maya Rkell Forsaken Empire The Forsaken Empire	Posted - 2007.02.07 21:50:00 - [3] Originally by: Danton Marcellus People pay a certain amount of ingame currency Why would CCP give up a revenue stream, IF they were to allow this? //Maya
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2007.02.08 01:12:00 - [4] Originally by: Maya Rkell Originally by: Danton Marcellus People pay a certain amount of ingame currency Why would CCP give up a revenue stream, IF they were to allow this? Give up? There is no such stream now as it is. They get a new isk sink as well as promote an EVE feel for those who so horribly misrepresented themselves in this galaxy. Ideally. Also Known As
Maya Rkell Forsaken Empire The Forsaken Empire	Posted - 2007.02.08 02:12:00 - [5] Name changes are typically for-pay in MMO's. Picture changes are in Eve, I'd remind you. It's not much of a stretch. Also, where does the "ISK sinks are good" conept come from? It's rubbish. Sinks are a control mechanism, and so are faucets. CCP monitor them - and there has NOT been rampent inflation (Hint: Inflation works off base goods, not luxuries). //Maya
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2007.02.08 02:26:00 - [6] Could be there hasn't been rampant inflation due to loot drop nerfs but perhaps instead of nerfing the hell out of the fun they could introduce more sinks and less trinkling faucets. Still that's really a non-issue, the price tag attached to it was only ever intended to keep abuse down, it serving a secondary purpose would just be a bonus. The real benefit of this service or rather feature would no doubt be a more immersive universe as people no longer had an excuse to stick with a dumbass name and those who want to improve theirs could. Also Known As
Kamal Drax	Posted - 2007.02.15 02:05:00 - [7] What a great idea. .
Reggie Stoneloader eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.02.15 02:18:00 - [8] Meh, my name's fine. If you don't want a name that sucks, don't come up with a name that sucks. What I want is to be able to adjust my portrait's lighting, head angle or background without modifying my basic morph. I look like I had my picture taken in a freight container, and if I shell out for a new portrait, I'll never get the face right again. I doubt the servers store that, though. Too bad. I'll probably have to redo my avatar when we start walking around stations and dancing the Macarena, anyway. Yes, I read the blog, that was tongue-in-cheek flamebait.
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2007.03.14 23:53:00 - [9] In some cultures you might even acquire a name as you perform deeds worthy of manifesting. Also Known As
Tarron Sarek Gallente Endica Enterprises	Posted - 2007.03.15 02:29:00 - [10] Edited by: Tarron Sarek on 15/03/2007 02:26:53 Originally by: Maya Rkell and there has NOT been rampent inflation No? Well I guess that totally depends on whether or not you find 100+ billion in personal wallets too much. And there are a lot of chars with a lot more. Single chars with the potential to buy whole fleets of dreads. Hmm.. As for me, I think the rich people in EVE are too rich. No, that's not jealousy. I'm perfectly happy. I just believe it's not good for the game. You notice inflation by the number of titans single chars can afford (the only obstacles regarding titans are time and amount of minerals) and amount of ISK paid for T2 BPOs. That's where the ISK accumulate. On topic: there should be an option to change char names for 10$/10Ç ___________________________________ _/_/ Game balance isn't just a luxury _/_/
Mr Xofar The Devil's Mafia	Posted - 2007.03.15 08:41:00 - [11] Edited by: Mr Xofar on 15/03/2007 08:37:25 Originally by: Reggie Stoneloader ... What I want is to be able to adjust my portrait's lighting, head angle or background without modifying my basic morph. I look like I had my picture taken in a freight container, and if I shell out for a new portrait, I'll never get the face right again. I doubt the servers store that, though. Too bad. ... /signed Miner Timer
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2007.03.21 16:52:00 - [12] As long as there's an option at all to begin with, getting stuck with a crappy name for all eternity in a game that's openended isn't a good thing. Bad business sense there from CCP with the imaginative minds tiring of their old name and fading out leaving only the sensor dampened buttonpushers content at the helm. Also Known As
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2007.04.02 20:18:00 - [13] Could be as harsh as agents only recognizing someone by one of their names so using him makes you revert back to original status and having to pay up all over again and keeping the new alias require that you walk away from all your previous agent standings. Also Known As
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2007.05.18 18:57:00 - [14] So what profit do you think CCP could make it they worked this service into real money? Also what fee would be reasonable? Also Known As
Drizit Amarr	Posted - 2007.05.19 01:29:00 - [15] ATM, macro miners use fist mashed names for speed rather than try to think one up. If you had a name generator, it would serve only to help them avoid detection. --
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2007.05.19 01:33:00 - [16] Then think of another way of exposing them and solving that problem. Limiting the game for the rest of us isn't the answer to that. Also Known As
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2007.11.04 22:03:00 - [17] Traversing worlds I'd say there would be scores of people known by different names in different places. After all it's only natural for someone to want to become something else given different surroundings so there could be a venue even for a shorter list of active aliases. But then again I'd be just fine with the namechange capability and it being saved on a list sorting with your employment history. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Idio T Sebum Primani	Posted - 2007.12.15 04:02:00 - [18] When I started (2+ years ago) I never thought my name would be stupid, or that I would still be playing. I vote for a name change option, I would pay $10. Frigate about it!
Phil Miller	Posted - 2007.12.16 03:33:00 - [19] Originally by: Idio T When I started (2+ years ago) I never thought my name would be stupid, or that I would still be playing. I vote for a name change option, I would pay $10. Where do I sign? I support this option as well! ___________________________________
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2008.01.20 18:53:00 - [20] Edited by: Danton Marcellus on 20/01/2008 18:54:50 It really is dumbfounding that CCP doesn't support the singlemost important feature for promoting roleplaying and immersion in their world. The openended skillsystem doesn't work like in all other MMOs where maxing out characters and re-inventing oneself is an alternative, therefor the option to go by different aliases is a must for people like me who care about the feel of the game more than just the base mechanics. Why is it that alliance and corporate history is all good and well to log but not known aliases? It's not like scammers cannot create alts to circumvent any accountability issue known to man or people don't just trade characters like baseball cards with no care for these 'toons' past reputation, they just slap on a 'new owner' label and voila, insta-cleanse! So CCP why really, why is there no option for those of us who do care for immersion in the world? Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
NightF0x Gallente Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.01.20 19:04:00 - [21] The reason that CCP doesn't want to implement this feature is because if you could change your name then you can elude your history. It would make corp theft easier and your history can't come back to haunt you like if can now. I wouldn't expect them allow this any time soon seeing as when they respond to similar requests they respond that they want you to worry about your gaming history and your actions within the game. Not only that but it would make corp/alliance spying a lot easier to get away with.
Selene Le'Cotiere Amarr I-Omniscient-I	Posted - 2008.01.20 19:13:00 - [22] Actually, he does take your past into account. Quote: It works as follow; People pay a certain amount of ingame currency for the privilege of a new name and field it much like a petition, fixed sum would range from 100M to 1B, ideally in an increasing fee for repeat offenders, doubling every time. Their old name is added to a list much like employment history and is easy to find for those wondering where their old nemesis went. Which would put the onus on the employer to do a thorough background check on prospective recruits. Overall, I'd say the idea has merit. *** "Some would call me a Demon. Others, a Vampire. But if the truth be told, I'm a child of the moon and a Goddess among men." Free pint of blood for the Dev who agrees
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2008.01.20 19:50:00 - [23] I can't begin to stress the importance of this feature for an outfit such as ours, which recruit only those who have put some effort into naming their characters. The gaping hole that is CCPs logic is sucking down all our potentials with it. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
NightF0x Gallente Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.01.20 20:36:00 - [24] Originally by: Danton Marcellus I can't begin to stress the importance of this feature for an outfit such as ours, which recruit only those who have put some effort into naming their characters. The gaping hole that is CCPs logic is sucking down all our potentials with it. So you want everyone to change so you can make it easier on yourself?
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2008.01.20 20:40:00 - [25] Originally by: NightF0x Originally by: Danton Marcellus I can't begin to stress the importance of this feature for an outfit such as ours, which recruit only those who have put some effort into naming their characters. The gaping hole that is CCPs logic is sucking down all our potentials with it. So you want everyone to change so you can make it easier on yourself? Reading comprehension anyone? Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
xaioguai Minmatar	Posted - 2008.01.20 22:09:00 - [26] yes, I was in one of the situation you stated earlier. Play the first 15 days, didn't bother to think of a name that suit me, to make the matter worst, its a typo no one can pronounce without spitting all over the keyboard. However, I am against the idea. Just think what if the whole fleet change name to something no one can pronounce 2 days before the operation, then change back after the engagement...... On second thought, it may be a solution to fix target calling technique.
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2008.01.20 22:50:00 - [27] Originally by: xaioguai yes, I was in one of the situation you stated earlier. Play the first 15 days, didn't bother to think of a name that suit me, to make the matter worst, its a typo no one can pronounce without spitting all over the keyboard. However, I am against the idea. Just think what if the whole fleet change name to something no one can pronounce 2 days before the operation, then change back after the engagement...... On second thought, it may be a solution to fix target calling technique. Did I anywhere say it would be like changing underwear? It would be an option to improve game immersion not a strategical tool for such a ludicris situation as the one you just presented. People already can name their characters in all binary so I don't see how this idea would have any effect on your target calling... Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Ask Unbeatable Tenacious Danes	Posted - 2008.01.20 23:20:00 - [28] I'd change my name
NightF0x Gallente Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.01.21 00:25:00 - [29] Originally by: Danton Marcellus Originally by: xaioguai yes, I was in one of the situation you stated earlier. Play the first 15 days, didn't bother to think of a name that suit me, to make the matter worst, its a typo no one can pronounce without spitting all over the keyboard. However, I am against the idea. Just think what if the whole fleet change name to something no one can pronounce 2 days before the operation, then change back after the engagement...... On second thought, it may be a solution to fix target calling technique. Did I anywhere say it would be like changing underwear? It would be an option to improve game immersion not a strategical tool for such a ludicris situation as the one you just presented. People already can name their characters in all binary so I don't see how this idea would have any effect on your target calling... so what's your point? you want to be able to change names yet it offers nothing for the game except for the handful of role players that already put some thought into naming their characters when they started the game.
Admiral Pelleon Caldari White Shadow Imperium imPure.	Posted - 2008.01.21 00:29:00 - [30] I would change my name in a heart beat. Copying a Starwars Admiral 2 years ago sounded like a good idea at the time. Now I'd rather have my usual gamer name that I plan on keeping forever. ________ Originally by: Tarminic I believe your mother should have re-rolled her birth control.
Selene Le'Cotiere Amarr I-Omniscient-I	Posted - 2008.01.21 00:43:00 - [31] Originally by: NightF0x so what's your point? you want to be able to change names yet it offers nothing for the game except for the handful of role players that already put some thought into naming their characters when they started the game. From a RP/Immersion point of view, I can see where it would be advantageous to make use of this service. It would open up the possibility of somebody playing the "Matta Hari" type character... Accept one job, and when finished, change names and move on to the next one. In particular if the name change wasn't applied to the Employment/name history, as suggested by the OP. background checks could be made though using Locater Agents, giving them the additional option to perform background checks. Just a few thoughts from my end. It seems like an idea that could pan out to be something. *** "Some would call me a Demon. Others, a Vampire. But if the truth be told, I'm a child of the moon and a Goddess among men." Free pint of blood for the Dev who agrees
NightF0x Gallente Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.01.21 02:30:00 - [32] I understand how having an aliases can be advantageous to an RP situation but there will be those that want to change their name so often that they will abuse the system and make it nearly impossible to do a background search. The DEVs have responded in the past that they will not change names because they want people to have to live with their past and present actions in Eve. That's all if you guys want to continue debating something that will never happen then go ahead...i'm backing out so have fun.
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2008.01.21 06:19:00 - [33] Originally by: NightF0x I understand how having an aliases can be advantageous to an RP situation but there will be those that want to change their name so often that they will abuse the system and make it nearly impossible to do a background search. The DEVs have responded in the past that they will not change names because they want people to have to live with their past and present actions in Eve. That's all if you guys want to continue debating something that will never happen then go ahead...i'm backing out so have fun. Yes you take that defeatist attitude and leave the suggestions and idea forum, clearly you have no place here. This is a place for visionaries looking to improve the game, not for those of little faith coming here to put everyone else down for not representing the majority. I'll continue debating this issue till the day I cancel my account thank you. I think I've stated it already, shouldn't be too hard to give every character their own unique signature, which is their current character name and use that as the tracking beacon for anyone looking for their known aliases. No-one would be able to hide from their past, you might overlook an old slight just glancing at local from time to time but any real nemesis you'd still have on your buddylist anyways, regardless of what name he goes by these days. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2008.01.23 22:54:00 - [34] What about the scenario of someone getting their character deleted in a malignant hacking and can't get it back, they won't unless they're someone special in the public eye you know. How about then getting at least the name back, grafted onto another pilot bought under the Isk for SP act? Just a situation that cropped up, not to deviate from the original idea. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Angra Mainyu Nebula Rasa Holdings Nebula Rasa	Posted - 2008.01.23 23:10:00 - [35] I support this idea. A friend has indeed had his account hacked, all assets and isk stolen, and his character deleted. I have flown with this individual for two years, and now he will have to either start a new character from scratch, or use a bought/given character with a completely different name. His old name was his in-game identity. It sucks that there is no mechanism for him to keep it. I support the original argument as well.
Kalamator Minmatar Nebula Rasa Holdings Nebula Rasa	Posted - 2008.01.26 00:24:00 - [36] Edited by: Kalamator on 26/01/2008 00:30:16 Bumpage To me, it doesn't make much sense that you can change your appearance (which, really, makes all of us RP'ers in a sense) when you want, but not your name? And I'm wondering how many of the people who /signed/ are RP'ers? Because I fail to see how this proposed change would 'only' affect RP'ers? Enlighten me, anyone? In the face of my friend losing his character, I also support his wanting to get a character that is somewhere near where his old character was developmentally, and put his old name on it. It would be a little wierd calling him something else now
Your Host	Posted - 2008.01.26 00:41:00 - [37] I WISH. I could change my name!! Too late
Crador D'Miron	Posted - 2008.01.29 14:08:00 - [38] Edited by: Crador D''Miron on 29/01/2008 14:10:19 Agreed with idea. Voting for it with all hands. There IS already personal IDs on every char. Check API keys. Talking about reality - it is possible to change your name IRL for any purpose, INCLUDING crime or past shadows evading. Why could't it be used in EVE? Why can't i "fake" my documents, become Lulzpwner. Thus, i'll reset my positive standings to Empire corps, go to Guristas space to live there as mere criminal. And onliest way to "track" me will be deep background check through Security agents - like IRL. IMHO that is good upgrade for RP behaving capabilities, salvation to ppl-with-wrong-names, increased realism and evolution of spying/diplomacy side of EVE. Ye can add "time delay" to name change. Like it'll need 1 month to change your In-Game ID (as it takes IRL to "fake" your documents). Make it Chance-Based (with decreasing successeful chance each attempt). Double cost of name-change after each use. Introduce Security Agents with capabilities to check one's background in archives, just like "Locator" Agents. P.S. Currently inability to change your In-Game IDs decreases game realism, as Real-Time-Updating Local chatroom.
Polkageist	Posted - 2008.01.31 00:41:00 - [39] please CCP consider implemetig it with ambulation, to be able to change your name, once, maybe max 2 times in a 5 year basis. Make the old name stick to the bio or something so corp thieves cant run from ther preivious identities. I have near 6 mill sp and i am thinking about making a new char to get a satisfying name that i can really relate to. Its my life lol, eve is not just a game.
Polkageist	Posted - 2008.02.01 20:18:00 - [40] a drunk bump.
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2008.02.05 00:41:00 - [41] Nice to see some support even though it's drugrelated. Not sure if it's mentioned but one negative side-effect of aliases could be losing agent standings, agents not recognizing or refusing to acknowledge affiliation with this new persona. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
WardogX Minmatar Outkasts	Posted - 2008.02.05 02:07:00 - [42] Edited by: WardogX on 05/02/2008 02:11:29 as long as you could see the players name followed by the nickname (maybe in "quotations") i dont think this could be exploited in anyway. If all you could see if the nickname.. it would lead to exploitation on every level imaginable.. from macro'rs to copycat greifers (some mmos greifers mimic the name of others and start drama with everyone in an attempt to get the original name owner in trouble... guess it happens in this game too.. but its easier to find whos who in this game)so as long as the nickname didnt mask the original name.. I am all for this. Example my name would look like WardogX "Wardog" Anyone can use the same nickname I would assume so the original name still has to take precidence over the nickname .. for searching, mails, bounty, etc etc... the nickname couldnt be anything more then visual frill. I also think prefix "titles" would also work well along with this idea (titles granted as mission reward standing level, corporation custom titles (with limited characters of space), etc.. lots of ideas on how one could obtain titles) ex. would look like (prefix title)(Name)("nickname") Commander WardogX "Wardog" These concept are all definitely more roleplayish then it is now.. you see stuff like this in other fantasy mmo's... some peoples names are 15 miles long. it gets out of hand so it would be easy to overdue in this game.. so tred carefully (also i am not endorsing 50 mile long names.. its drives me nutz) :) ... example some of those EQ games you see people walkin around with names arranged like this, pre-preffix, preffix, name,last name, suffix... ex.. King Revered Superman MrPwnage the Exalted ... superman is there original name and the rest is title fluff... please dont take EVE to a level of that! .... Im into simple prefix titles and a nickname.. as long as the length of characters are limited and main name always is visible and takes precedence.
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2008.02.05 13:14:00 - [43] Edited by: Danton Marcellus on 05/02/2008 13:14:39 My idea is more about having past aliases submitted to an a.k.a log much like employment history. It should be the front tab whenever someone checked info on someone else, to avoid the hiding and possible impersonations and character assassination attempts. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2008.02.07 12:46:00 - [44] It could even be a standings thing, you have to maintain a certain degree of recognition for your work with a certain faction to be able to 'hide' under your new name in a certain area or it will revert back to showing your old alias in that sector of space. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
XFranc Caldari Lucian Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.07 13:18:00 - [45] I would definately change my name. If only I had known.....
Polkageist	Posted - 2008.02.08 22:06:00 - [46] /signed
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2008.02.13 04:42:00 - [47] You can introduce all the new things you want but if the thing people get tired of is their age old character that they cannot switch out without a significant setback for themselves then they'll consider the other option. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2008.02.18 22:48:00 - [48] How about a name generator on character creation? This to give us at least some EVE names when those synapses refuse to connect. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2008.02.25 07:32:00 - [49] These days the way you tell an alt apart from someones main character is the alt has a good name, now that can't be what CCP intended when they wanted people to become immersed in EVE, main character named crapcan2 and then some elaborate bio and name for the hauler alt... Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
laurazine	Posted - 2008.02.27 19:45:00 - [50] Quote: Aliases, people come into EVE thinking they'll do the trial or just stay for a few hours then they're hooked and don't want to go back and create a new character or even won't see the added benefits of sporting a real name till much later. When they months later have grown dead tired of being Hugh Janus or Dao2 enter alias'! To waste CCPÆs time (when they are busy ignoring everything that needs attention) with this rubbish is inexcusable. If youÆre not mature enough to give your Toon a decent name because you might not stay, then you deserve to be stuck with it. Quote: I'd also like for there to be an on creation name generator, a tool to help those among us who know they can't think of an immersive name to save their lives. I would agree that this would be a good idea as some do have a hard time coming up with a name that hasn't been used yet. "The previously arriving feathered vertebrate procures the invertebrate crawler"
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2008.02.28 00:56:00 - [51] People do grow up you know and I feel there should be an option for their characters to grow with them. Saying they should be stuck with a crap name 'cause they were unimaginative fools when they started out is way harsh. My roleplaying days would've been shortlived had I been stuck with Sharky all those years. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
cattleman	Posted - 2008.02.28 04:02:00 - [52] /signed This very situation happened to me both in name and portrait. If you haven't noticed I'm the only one in about the entire game who didn't capitalize their name (thought no one else would stupid stupid stupid). So yeah a few minor changes would be nice.
Ranek Starscream Caldari principle of motion Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.03.10 14:33:00 - [53] Originally by: NightF0x The reason that CCP doesn't want to implement this feature is because if you could change your name then you can elude your history. It would make corp theft easier and your history can't come back to haunt you like if can now. I wouldn't expect them allow this any time soon seeing as when they respond to similar requests they respond that they want you to worry about your gaming history and your actions within the game. Not only that but it would make corp/alliance spying a lot easier to get away with. simple fix...name history. It's really not a stretch of the imagination to come up with fixes for any problems that may appear. I mean CCP could even have a nice little money maker if they allow name changes for rl money (there's a reason Blizzard have done it with WoW)
RInama Sent Shadow Of The Light	Posted - 2008.03.10 16:03:00 - [54] /signed You may have noticed that the second letter of my name is capitalized. This bugs the hell out of me, it drives me crazy but i didn't even notice till i had been playing for a month when i though it would be no big deal and didn't want to redo all my learning skills. I mean its just 1 letter.....you would think it would be easy to change 1 letter. 249.99 KM Locking? AF MK II
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2008.03.11 22:09:00 - [55] Originally by: RInama Sent /signed You may have noticed that the second letter of my name is capitalized. This bugs the hell out of me, it drives me crazy but i didn't even notice till i had been playing for a month when i though it would be no big deal and didn't want to redo all my learning skills. I mean its just 1 letter.....you would think it would be easy to change 1 letter. You see CCP, god is in the details, release this poor sould from her torment! Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Astria Tiphareth School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.03.14 16:47:00 - [56] I support the idea - quite a few other MMOs allow this, and there are plenty of ways to retain the history of the individual that ensure accurate checks can be made. Heck it's not like anyone genuinely cares about identity really when you can make alts to do your dirty work, which is also worth addressing. I see two possibilities: Make it game-neutral: Changing name is applied by real cash, just has it listed in a name-history for all to see, and that's it. Make it part of the game: If you want to escape your past, you DO change your name & appearance, totally, without history, this costs a lot of ISK, and can be hunted down by suitably adept bounty hunters etc. (ok, three possibilities you pedants ) Have both. It has zero impact on ISK farmers, as they re-roll names anyway; besides changing name for cash, game or real, is just not going to happen when a link is maintained to the old names in the database (it has to be either way for it to be findable by someone). It has little impact for game intelligence or other issues as the funds required should be balanced to ensure this can't be done every day, and if you're going to research your members, you shouldn't be averse to an extra step to check their history anyway. ___ "If you can't debate using logic & fact, and at least recognise other people's point of view, don't waste time posting on forums. It only makes you look like a teenage idiot."
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings Nebula Rasa	Posted - 2008.03.17 02:50:00 - [57] There really is no downside to this proposal other than fear of change. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Lusulpher Raddick Explorations Friend or Enemy	Posted - 2008.03.17 08:19:00 - [58] Originally by: Danton Marcellus There really is no downside to this proposal other than fear of change. Pretty much, I love my name but this feature has merit for the unlucky players who mature due to playing EVE and those who decide to put a respectable last name instead of a digit. Besides a good corp theif will sell his character and that will not be logged...unless this system includes it also
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings Nebula Rasa	Posted - 2008.03.20 22:43:00 - [59] Surely building ones character in an open-ended character building game as EVE one must surely be able to upgrade from say Captain Mistake to Admiral Mistake, or just realize ones mistake and remove the rank hardcoded into ones name. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Danton Marcellus	Posted - 2008.04.02 04:14:00 - [60] Also I don't believe name history should be wiped if the character is traded. If I wish to hold a grudge to a character I may not care that it's under new ownership and I think it's in my right to not care either. No amnesty, permanent record of known aliases. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Wren Alterana	Posted - 2008.04.02 05:05:00 - [61] signed, I actually went back and started a new character in order to get my current name, I would have rather liked not having to do that. Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Xavieer Naidoo	Posted - 2008.04.02 08:14:00 - [62] I agree. This is a good idea. No real downsides (corp thieves ? make a name history, just like employment history) and it's done! I would pay 15$ for a name change. I'm happy with my name, but not the surname, which happens to be a real surname of a German pop artist - the fact I wasn't really aware (guess it was a subliminal match in my mind to Xavier). CCP - listen to our needs! :)
J'Mkarr Soban Proxenetae Invicti	Posted - 2008.04.02 09:03:00 - [63] It's also very very easy to do - currently every character has their own database key (char id in the api), and the name associated with that database entry is just an attribute. Changing that name is just the same as changing the portrait key for a new portrait. The balancing issue is the anonymity presented by having a new name, but as has been mentioned here and elsewhere, that can be overcome with a similar list to employment history. -- These are my personal views and in no way represent the views of Proxenetae Invicti, which maintains a neutral stance stemming from the strong ethics demanded of its work.
Vhor Kataar Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.04.02 10:28:00 - [64] Actually I would love to have that feature. For my main who was created when I was stupidly thinking a callsign would be good for a Pilot's name... Man was I wrong.
Danton Marcellus	Posted - 2008.04.05 13:11:00 - [65] Some new followers to the cause. Bring out your dea... misnamed! Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings Nebula Rasa	Posted - 2008.04.06 13:45:00 - [66] Given the lack of new ideas presented I shamelessly plug my own agenda. Identity to the masses! Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Daelin Blackleaf	Posted - 2008.04.07 00:56:00 - [67] I'm happy with my name, but I would like to see this service implemented for shock other people. It should, however, only be allowed once every 3 or 6 months. Other than that most everything has been posted, a well thought-out idea Danton. Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2008.04.09 19:03:00 - [68] There's always room for improvement and new angles, posting a fully covered proposal from the getgo is bad for business as it really can't be kept current and in the public eye with illegal bumping. That's why I only ever post half-finished ideas, yes that's it... Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Chris Stormrider	Posted - 2008.04.09 22:19:00 - [69] ok, but you can't have less than 1.0 standing and/or bounties on you. You pay $10 and even then, for 1month anyone can petition your name change and if GM agrees, cancel it. Depending on how eve's database is set-up you might need to quit your corp prior the change (roles or whatever). You can change it every 6months or smth like that. When searching for your old name you appear also. Sorry for all the restrictions but i'm pretty much against, since I believe 90% that will use it shouldn't be allowed to...
grgjegb gergerg Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.04.09 23:02:00 - [70] Call me primary, I dare you!
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2008.04.10 07:04:00 - [71] Originally by: grgjegb gergerg Call me primary, I dare you! Grg is primary. You have to be a complete muptard to go with some jumble of letters for a name just to avoid getting shot at. What are you called for real, Toiletbowl? Have some pride and man up. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2008.04.22 10:53:00 - [72] I was actually counting on some support from those KIA challenged guys, the poor saps who figured it was a good idea to incorporate their corporate tag into the name. Eddz, Tolon?
Tyr Guann Gallente Atlas Corporation	Posted - 2008.04.22 14:38:00 - [73] /signed If this is implemented as an ingame feature, maybe there could be 2 forms of name change - one that affects current standings and another that doesn't? Sort of like legal vs illegal name changes. Ofc both would list previous identities.
Mike Rowlings Gallente	Posted - 2008.04.22 15:59:00 - [74] Yes, I too would love to have the ability to change my name and wouldn't mind paying for it either in ISK (few hundreds of millions) or real money ($15.) Well thought out idea OP.
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2008.04.26 19:15:00 - [75] Hey CCP it'd be nice if you could fix the forums so it wouldn't turn off my desired settings every time I come to the site and have to log in again. That way more people would see my signature and find their way to support this cause. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2008.04.29 16:57:00 - [76] Who wants to make a bet on when this will finally be incorporated? Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Kailiani	Posted - 2008.04.30 00:37:00 - [77] Old names should still be searchable in eve and lead to the same character that now has a new name. One name change every 'X' months allowed and a real life fee. Also a name history should emerge in your info if you have changed your name.
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2008.04.30 01:32:00 - [78] Originally by: Kailiani Old names should still be searchable in eve and lead to the same character that now has a new name. One name change every 'X' months allowed and a real life fee. Also a name history should emerge in your info if you have changed your name. Of course the alias should still show on a character search. Otherwise it would be used for hiding, that's not what I'm getting at here but a chance to develop your character after the fact, the single defining moment where creativity might have been lapsing. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Kailiani	Posted - 2008.04.30 01:58:00 - [79] Originally by: Danton Marcellus Originally by: Kailiani Old names should still be searchable in eve and lead to the same character that now has a new name. One name change every 'X' months allowed and a real life fee. Also a name history should emerge in your info if you have changed your name. Of course the alias should still show on a character search. Otherwise it would be used for hiding, that's not what I'm getting at here but a chance to develop your character after the fact, the single defining moment where creativity might have been lapsing. Great! so why is this not an option?
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2008.04.30 02:30:00 - [80] Originally by: Kailiani Originally by: Danton Marcellus Originally by: Kailiani Old names should still be searchable in eve and lead to the same character that now has a new name. One name change every 'X' months allowed and a real life fee. Also a name history should emerge in your info if you have changed your name. Of course the alias should still show on a character search. Otherwise it would be used for hiding, that's not what I'm getting at here but a chance to develop your character after the fact, the single defining moment where creativity might have been lapsing. Great! so why is this not an option? CCP feels it would lead to abuse, with people hiding behind alias', not at all like hiding behind alts or bought and sold accounts, with their owners having little to no regard for how their character is percieved as it'll serve its purpose and be sold on... Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2008.05.05 22:05:00 - [81] Given the very real prospect of games turning into movies at this day in age, would CCP really want the lead in their epic saga to be known to all as Homo Erectus? Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2008.05.17 17:13:00 - [82] Will it be possible any time in the future to use hyphens? Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Wren Alterana Minmatar The Baros Syndicate Kissaki Republic	Posted - 2008.05.17 17:21:00 - [83] bump for the win _________ Dynamic Maps
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2008.05.28 22:37:00 - [84] What's that noice on the horizon? That's the horde of possible revenue. Welcome the new mammon overlords and make namechanges a possibility or introduce a level cap so we can all max out and start over with a real name. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2008.06.13 10:58:00 - [85] What will it hurt to implement? It's not like it'll make it harder to catch macrofarmers, it's not like we have a perfect system in place to ward against corporate thieves and them not finding sanctuary despite flaunting their names and deeds. Why should we have to settle for a universe where the telltale sign of someone being an alt is a good name? The first and main character being rushed into existance and as such not thoroughly thought through. We cannot and will not re-roll 5 years down the line, give us the tools to build our characters and to improve the immersion in EVE.
Straight Chillen Solar Wind Ministry Of Amarrian Secret Service	Posted - 2008.06.13 15:17:00 - [86] One thing this thread brings to mind is a burning question about ambulation. Being that we are going to be able to get out of ships and see our characters in full 3D, how do we, who have created our charcters some time ago, get to alter the likely effectors for our body? are we all just gonna be doomed to staying at what ever the default is? Also i've had an idea that in effect, you could get your "liscensed renewed" and update your picture, say every 6 months or so, for a bit of isk. So you can change the background lighting and character orientation and such. No alteration of the facial features of course, as that would require surgery, and be most expensive hint
Rook Highwind Unnatural Growth	Posted - 2008.06.17 23:19:00 - [87] They actually plan on implementing plastic surgeries in stations, along with less drastic changes like clothing and hairstyle changes being possible. To the OP's idea: /signed. In really big letters. While there's nothing especially wrong with what I've got, I'd like to be able to adopt a more comfortable moniker for RP should I ever choose to go that way. Or if I ever think of a better and more unique alias than 'Rook'. Curse me and my lack of identifiable positive traits! ______________________________________
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2008.06.18 12:46:00 - [88] Given the recent developments it puts the notion of forcibly changed names to the forefront. Can we please have a ban on wholesale ripped names such as Daniel Jackson, who sadly figured in the news lately, Darth Vader, John Sheridan, Drizzt and all and any other truly re***ed names people opt for. That being said an option for the ones knowing they lacked in the creative department back when is still in short order. Face it, characters are being sold, no-one is going to start over again for a name and with the characters being sold on the accountability you waive as the only defense for not implementing this is a figment of imagination. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!* Also Known As
Elsebeth Rhiannon Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2008.06.18 13:26:00 - [89] Make it so. -- Help us defend the Republic; join Gradient today.
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2008.07.02 03:09:00 - [90] I wonder is this something that'll get picked up on during a CSM meeting or is it all about server performance and alliances? Is this forum at all relevant anymore? Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Ekrid	Posted - 2008.07.02 05:23:00 - [91] Originally by: Maya Rkell Name changes are typically for-pay in MMO's. Picture changes are in Eve, I'd remind you. It's not much of a stretch. Also, where does the "ISK sinks are good" conept come from? It's rubbish. Sinks are a control mechanism, and so are faucets. CCP monitor them - and there has NOT been rampent inflation (Hint: Inflation works off base goods, not luxuries). lolol... People are getting paid more and more for missions, salvage is as good as ever, 2 month old newbies have the ISK to jump into a BS without even having the proper skills to max its potential, Dreads and carriers are common as sh#$, titans are populating the game more and more, and aren't special anymore. Ask why right now. Because ARTIFICIAL price caps for minerals and insurance of T1 ships keep inflation from occuring, thus keeping the buying power of ISK the same since the game started, despite the fact that back in the day, BSes were NOT a plaything of noobs but a corp asset, a carrier was OMG rare, and titans werent even on the scene. You should look into the statistics of the average isk income of a newbie 2004 and 2008. you'll see a huge difference with no inflation or new isk sinks, unless you count better ships via T2 as isk sinks. but thats more like an investment than a sink. the only good isk sink in eve is random acts of violence against others.
Ekrid	Posted - 2008.07.02 05:29:00 - [92] Edited by: Ekrid on 02/07/2008 05:30:04 Originally by: Tarron Sarek Edited by: Tarron Sarek on 15/03/2007 02:26:53 Originally by: Maya Rkell and there has NOT been rampent inflation No? Well I guess that totally depends on whether or not you find 100+ billion in personal wallets too much. And there are a lot of chars with a lot more. Single chars with the potential to buy whole fleets of dreads. Hmm.. As for me, I think the rich people in EVE are too rich. No, that's not jealousy. I'm perfectly happy. I just believe it's not good for the game. You notice inflation by the number of titans single chars can afford (the only obstacles regarding titans are time and amount of minerals) and amount of ISK paid for T2 BPOs. That's where the ISK accumulate. On topic: there should be an option to change char names for 10$/10Ç yep, its not good for the game, its one of the reasons its pushing inexorably towards capitals online.
Herateis	Posted - 2008.07.02 05:34:00 - [93] If you really cant stomach your name: 1; Create a new character with a good name 2; buy up the best learning implants and train cybernetics to use them 3; send the rest of your cash, your fleet of ships, etc, to your new character. 4; ??? 5; profit
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2008.07.02 19:54:00 - [94] Originally by: Herateis If you really cant stomach your name: 1; Create a new character with a good name 2; buy up the best learning implants and train cybernetics to use them 3; send the rest of your cash, your fleet of ships, etc, to your new character. 4; ??? 5; profit Wake up, people will never do this in a million years as it'd set them back too much, stay on topic. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Verdun Pasquinel Nebula Rasa Vanguard	Posted - 2008.07.04 04:25:00 - [95] Our glorious leader makes a good point.
Jinx Barker GFB Scientific	Posted - 2008.07.04 06:46:00 - [96] Edited by: Jinx Barker on 04/07/2008 07:03:11 Originally by: Danton Marcellus ....Their old name is added to a list much like employment history and is easy to find for those wondering where their old nemesis went..... How would I find them, that is my main concern. I mean within current game mechanics? Lets say I chose to change Jinx Barker, and instead chose Joe Barker or something completely unrelated to my previous name. Now, comes a noob, who says, wait I like Jinx Barker name, since it is available, and takes it. So, then someone who is trying to locate me searches the People & Places, and finds the poor noob instead of myself? Could you clarify for me the mechanics of locating the evil Jinx Barker, and not the unwitting doppleganger? Originally by: Danton Marcellus I'd also like for there to be an on creation name generator, a tool to help those among us who know they can't think of an immersive name to save their lives. Sure, I have no issues with that, I guess I am one of the 'grumps' who hates to see name abuse like leet-speek in names. Originally by: Danton Marcellus You like your nickname? There's nothing saying you can't have nicknames on the side of a real name... How will it work? How will it display, will that mean CCP will have to add a third space in the name... and one would be able to turn Jinx Barker to Jinx "Spiky" Barker? Or something along those lines? Originally by: Danton Marcellus Programming this you might want to add a unique podpilot number to each character which can never be altered, that way people who against all odds spam up name changes can never outrun who they truly are should the repoman come knocking. So, this would be the way to address tracking existing name changes, once the system goes into effect, it would be important to either write down, or somehow secure the "pod pilot number" - what if the information gets lost, and/or computer crashes HDD dies, and EVE needs to be reinstalled. Do I have to keep a dossier, on all people I want to keep track of, in my filing cabinet? Edit: Originally by: Danton Marcellus Originally by: Herateis ....Create a new character with a good name.... Wake up, people will never do this in a million years as it'd set them back too much, stay on topic. But, Danton, I had to do that, I had to chuck a character with over 20 Million SP because I simply could not live with the name. I am sure I am not that different from many others who are regretting their decision of creating the name - not that I do not feel certain degree of camaraderie with those people, I know what they are going through, looking at the name that they hate, ruins immersion, disrupts their whole identity... still... perhaps it is personal for me - since if I was not an idiot, and make a proper name from the start, or re-rolled, I would have close to 80 Million SP by now.
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2008.07.04 15:39:00 - [97] Edited by: Danton Marcellus on 04/07/2008 15:41:56 Edited by: Danton Marcellus on 04/07/2008 15:39:10 Originally by: Jinx Barker Edited by: Jinx Barker on 04/07/2008 07:03:11 Originally by: Danton Marcellus ....Their old name is added to a list much like employment history and is easy to find for those wondering where their old nemesis went..... How would I find them, that is my main concern. I mean within current game mechanics? Lets say I chose to change Jinx Barker, and instead chose Joe Barker or something completely unrelated to my previous name. Now, comes a noob, who says, wait I like Jinx Barker name, since it is available, and takes it. So, then someone who is trying to locate me searches the People & Places, and finds the poor noob instead of myself? Could you clarify for me the mechanics of locating the evil Jinx Barker, and not the unwitting doppleganger? Don't do that, quote me multiple times in one post, it makes it impossible for me to address all the issues, unless that was your intent of course. Jinx Barker will be filed away as a known alias of yours and you will show on a search of all your known aliases. If someone wants Jinx Barker too they'll have to get a pilot license in the name of Jinks Barker, Jinx Barkers or what have you. Your concern might be that names will run out, while I don't share that concern given the infinite possibilities with names I do feel accounts and names of pilots more than a year old and never paid for should be purged from the database in a first step to allow people more options and hinder people creating a mass amount of free alts to block popular names. As for mistaken identity, it happens and if the bountyhunter or whatnot cannot match employment history and other intel to tell their marks apart that's just grounds for more conflict, something EVE thrives on. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2008.07.04 15:47:00 - [98] Originally by: Jinx Barker Originally by: Danton Marcellus You like your nickname? There's nothing saying you can't have nicknames on the side of a real name... How will it work? How will it display, will that mean CCP will have to add a third space in the name... and one would be able to turn Jinx Barker to Jinx "Spiky" Barker? Or something along those lines? No I meant people with names now that read more like a pilot handle would still have the rights to those names even though they've moved on to perhaps a higher level of operations than they ever thought when they started out once. Say an established pilot like Discorporation were to adopt the name Drugen Filibarts for his suit and tie boardroom meets he could and would still be known as 'Dis', 'Disco' or 'Discorporation' down at the nudie bar. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2008.07.04 15:49:00 - [99] Originally by: Jinx Barker Originally by: Danton Marcellus Programming this you might want to add a unique podpilot number to each character which can never be altered, that way people who against all odds spam up name changes can never outrun who they truly are should the repoman come knocking. So, this would be the way to address tracking existing name changes, once the system goes into effect, it would be important to either write down, or somehow secure the "pod pilot number" - what if the information gets lost, and/or computer crashes HDD dies, and EVE needs to be reinstalled. Do I have to keep a dossier, on all people I want to keep track of, in my filing cabinet? No as explained, the old names don't go away, they gets filed away much like employment history on the permanent record, if you know one of the aliases you should be ok. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2008.07.04 15:54:00 - [100] Originally by: Jinx Barker Originally by: Danton Marcellus Originally by: Herateis ....Create a new character with a good name.... Wake up, people will never do this in a million years as it'd set them back too much, stay on topic. But, Danton, I had to do that, I had to chuck a character with over 20 Million SP because I simply could not live with the name. I am sure I am not that different from many others who are regretting their decision of creating the name - not that I do not feel certain degree of camaraderie with those people, I know what they are going through, looking at the name that they hate, ruins immersion, disrupts their whole identity... still... perhaps it is personal for me - since if I was not an idiot, and make a proper name from the start, or re-rolled, I would have close to 80 Million SP by now. You're the exception here, the only one I've ever heard of who have done this and is still around and not getting cheesed off enough to leave after beting themselves up over what could've been. This proposal is to help the game grow without butchering the people in it. Discounting a proposal that would benefit the masses and the game for what one guy stomached to do, the big reset, isn't really a valid argument. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Elsoxez	Posted - 2008.07.11 00:54:00 - [101] X me up for name change
Jinx Barker GFB Scientific	Posted - 2008.07.11 07:06:00 - [102] I am using separate quotes to delineate and to clear up each point I am addressing so it would be easier to interact with the point and my question/counter-point. Certainly not trying to make it too difficult, not my intent at all. Trying to be as precise as possible.... So.... Originally by: Danton Marcellus No I meant people with names now that read more like a pilot handle would still have the rights to those names even though they've moved on to perhaps a higher level of operations than they ever thought when they started out once. Say an established pilot like Discorporation were to adopt the name Drugen Filibarts for his suit and tie boardroom meets he could and would still be known as 'Dis', 'Disco' or 'Discorporation' down at the nudie bar. I think you missed my initial point, let me rephrase it. How, technically, will this work in EVE. Where will the "handle" go, how or where will it display. So, how would Discorporation and Drugen Filibarts and 'Dis' or 'Disco' will be incorporated into the UI? Also how will I be able to find that above-mentioned person exactly? How will the search work, does that mean that ALL of the above handles will be "unavailable" and will be associated with the character? I am asking questions that pertain to actual execution of the idea in EVE. Simply saying this is HOW it SHOULD BE, does not mean that it is possible to incorporate into the client. It will create number of DB issues, I think, when trying to incorporate Discorporation, Drugen Filibarts, and 'Dis' or 'Disco' into proper format that EVE DB can handle. I am not claiming I know everything about DB management, but I know little bit, it is always best to KISS - "Keep It Simple Stupid" - when it comes to DB management. (Not meant as an Insult, obviously, its the well known.. abbreviation?) Next.... Originally by: Danton Marcellus No as explained, the old names don't go away, they gets filed away much like employment history on the permanent record, if you know one of the aliases you should be ok. Ok, again, an issue as to where they get filed? You mean that, for example, Jinx Barker will have a separate tab, like the Corporation History, where all previous aliases are listed? I am going by the quote here. So, the issue arises, as we discussed before, if I change the name from Jinx Barker to Joe Barker, then Jinx Barker gets filed away in the special 'AKA' tab. So, Jinx Barker becomes available to anyone - another person comes in and takes Jinx Barker as their primary name, and their initial name Danton M, (example), gets filed away under 'AKA Tab' - so far so good. Now, how will it be searchable? Exactly? If someone searches for Jinx Barker, will they find current Jinx Barker, AKA Danton M, or will they find Joe Barker, AKA Jinx Barker? Or both? Further, Danton M, decides that his new name Jinx Barker sux, and he is going for another name Sam Barker, and Jinx Barker, and Danton M, get filed away under 'AKA Tab' - then Sam Barker belonged to someone else, and how will that work, now we will have duplicate, triplicate, quadruplicate, whatever entries all over the bloody place, and a programing nightmare. Again, I do not know much about programing - but I have seen and know enough that what I have described above will be a mess of galactic proportions. This will pretty much create a significant mess, if it is at all possible, 6 months down the road as people will be switching names, taking other names, and all those supposedly unique IDs will have to be made somehow work together, which is what I am doubting when it comes to this idea.
Jinx Barker GFB Scientific	Posted - 2008.07.11 07:18:00 - [103] Originally by: Danton Marcellus You're the exception here, the only one I've ever heard of who have done this and is still around and not getting cheesed off enough to leave after beting themselves up over what could've been. This proposal is to help the game grow without butchering the people in it. Discounting a proposal that would benefit the masses and the game for what one guy stomached to do, the big reset, isn't really a valid argument. Not trying to discard an idea because I was insane enough to discard a 20 Million SP character due to the name. Certainly not, as I said, I share a great deal of affinity and some degree of camaraderie with people who are in the situation that resembles mine 3 years ago... It is OK, if it was feasible in within the actual "mechanics" and "functionality" and DB ability, so to speak, that is what I am doubting over and over, certainly not the fact that people should not be able to change their name because I wasn't able to and I am bitter old man now, and when I was a noob I had to walk to Yulai barefoot in the snow to buy my first Civilian Shield Booster... But what I see, even if it will become available, the only way to make it work, is to KEEP the Original Names UNIQUE and attached to the new DB entry. In other words, limiting further the available pool of names. Originally by: For example: If Jinx Barker changes his name to Joe Barker, then Jinx Barker still stays as a unique ID, and is attached in the DB to Joe Barker. No other person can ever take Jinx Barker, or Joe Barker ever again, they are permanently linked. And DB entry reflects that - so when someone searches for Jinx Barker, they find Joe Barker in the 'AKA Tab.' And Denton M, will have to find a new and imaginative name, other than the desired Jinx Barker. In other words, the more name changes will take place, the less, technically, unique names will be available, again complicating things, since any name change will have to be a "responsible" action, and people, unfortunately, are not responsible, or rather they rarely are. I hope I made myself clear, as I said before, not against the idea as a whole, just the proposed execution is not possible, not the way it is outlined anyway. Perhaps really smart kids with DB and Python and IDs will be able to clarify things for me and make me see the light, so to speak, but I think I am pretty close as to why multiple IDs of the same kind would not work.
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2008.07.11 17:22:00 - [104] Addressing the first part, unique account numbers I'm sure already exists, attaching all the aliases to them would be the way to go but since you're not really shedding a name but adding another I don't see the problem there. It's the same as corporate history. As for the nickname part, you have it in said history and you can enter whole or part of it in the bio stating if you acknowledge it still and people who know you by this name may still call you this if you're on good terms or as an insult if the name is crap and you know it. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Jinx Barker GFB Scientific	Posted - 2008.07.11 20:20:00 - [105] Originally by: Danton Marcellus Addressing the first part, unique account numbers I'm sure already exists, attaching all the aliases to them would be the way to go but since you're not really shedding a name but adding another I don't see the problem there. It's the same as corporate history. As for the nickname part, you have it in said history and you can enter whole or part of it in the bio stating if you acknowledge it still and people who know you by this name may still call you this if you're on good terms or as an insult if the name is crap and you know it. So, in other words this would be the case: Originally by: Quoted For Greater Emphasis For example: If Jinx Barker changes his name to Joe Barker, then Jinx Barker still stays as a unique ID, and is attached in the DB to Joe Barker. No other person can ever take Jinx Barker, or Joe Barker ever again, they are permanently linked. And DB entry reflects that - so when someone searches for Jinx Barker, they find Joe Barker, and then they will be able to look in the 'AKA Tab' and see that Jinx Barker is a 'Known Alias.' This will mean that Denton M, will have to find a new and imaginative name, other than the desired Jinx Barker. Correct? Each name will be the UNIQUE DB entry, as it is now, and as such will not be available to anyone else ever again. Further, same will happen with each additional name change, they will be UNIQUE DB IDs that would attach itself to the above-mentioned DB entry, and as such whenever someone searches for the initial DB entry, or subsequent additions, they will inevitably find the right person. Thus basically making sure that POD pilots come up with First Name/Given Name/Family Name system?
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2008.07.11 22:54:00 - [106] Adressing the second part first, I do think CCP should opt to cleanse the database from accounts never paid for or not paid for in over 2 years. If not wiping them out, which would be had for business then slapping a number on the pilot much like that which GMs now give people with offensive names and enter that into their alias list, denoting a possible time spent in prison for those of us who want to roleplay it. In doing this it would go far in terms of giving people an ample amount of common names to choose from again. I think there's far more names to be wiped from the database in this cathegory then there will be people changing their names, that being said I don't think there will be just a few wanting to develop their characters, just a shitload of idle names about. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2008.07.11 23:02:00 - [107] Addressing that last note. I don't share the fear that EVE will run out of names. We will just have an option for those who care about their handle and character who get an immense improvement and for those changing an alias from TheD3V1L666 to THEDEVIL666 there will no longer be an excuse and people can write them off as lost causes, where the 'I was just goofing around a few years back' no longer fly. Again I don't see how this would be hard to do searches for or coding in any way, it's purely a fear of change and I believe it is the natural progress for a game with no cap, which just goes on and on. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
kyoukoku	Posted - 2008.07.14 09:55:00 - [108] I'm all in for being able to change my char's name. As much as I use it for everything else I do online, I'd really, really like to use something a little more in keeping with the theme of the game. of course all name changes should be trackable as suggested. I think you should have to pay real money just as you currently do for portrait changes and additionally you can only change your name once in a 6month period. That way at least only those folks who really do want to change a character name will do it and it will make those who just randomly decide they don't like their name to think twice. I also agree that there should be a random name generator on the character creation screen with names befitting of the EVE universe. I wish this had been there when I created my character but I assumed, wrongly, that I could change it later. Ninja Salvaging ain't stealing from desusig.crumplecorn.com
Jinx Barker GFB Scientific	Posted - 2008.07.20 06:20:00 - [109] Edited by: Jinx Barker on 20/07/2008 06:22:55 As I said above, I was reluctant as long as the idea is not fleshed out completely, however if it it follows the bellow outline, then I would love for it to be implemented: Originally by: Quoted For Greater Emphasis For example: If Jinx Barker changes his name to Joe Barker, then Jinx Barker still stays as a unique ID, and is attached in the DB to Joe Barker. No other person can ever take Jinx Barker, or Joe Barker ever again, they are permanently linked. And DB entry reflects that - so when someone searches for Jinx Barker, they find Joe Barker, and then they will be able to look in the 'AKA Tab' and see that Jinx Barker is a 'Known Alias.' This will mean that Denton M, will have to find a new and imaginative name, other than the desired Jinx Barker, for example. I was recently looking to buy a character, an expensive one, with well defined specialization, and at least 55 Mill SP. And I found myself completely dumbfounded by the lack of imagination exhibited by so many people. I mean the names are just horrible, really horrible, lettspeek, or some dumb DiFfeREnt leTTEring in the names, etc, etc. So, I would add, that if the character name could be affected only 3 times within the life of character, and/or upon the sale/transfer of the character from one account to another. So long as ALL the names remain as unique DB entries and are attached to the same DB entry, I would think this should be implemented.
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2008.07.21 11:31:00 - [110] I don't know what it is you're not getting. Your aliases would be yours and you'd show up on a search for those, I can't say it in many more ways. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Jinx Barker GFB Scientific	Posted - 2008.07.21 11:44:00 - [111] Originally by: Danton Marcellus I don't know what it is you're not getting. Your aliases would be yours and you'd show up on a search for those, I can't say it in many more ways. I was trying to be as precise as possible in identifying areas of probable miscommunication. In other words, one must say precisely what the idea will entail, and provide the description as closely as possible to how it should work and its limitations. Just saying that it should work "this way" or "that way" without delineating the thought opens the idea up to misinterpretation. Now, you still have not answered my question Danton, do you see it working as I have outlined in my previous post? Or do you see it working differently? If you see it working differently, then how, precisely. I tried to make it as concise as possible, and basically outline it the way I see what you are proposing, unless I am mistaken.
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2008.07.21 13:32:00 - [112] All the names you have had are permantently linked to the same character, forever and without exception. Deviations from that name, Jinxx Barker however remain open and should some evil twin wreck havoc presenting himself as you and his victims be none the wiser it's neither here nor there, this idea isn't about weeding out stupid. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Gerard deRidefort	Posted - 2008.07.21 13:35:00 - [113] Edited by: Gerard deRidefort on 21/07/2008 13:35:42 First at some of the names in this thread... This sounds like a valid idea, if it's a once of thing, i.e you can change the name of your avatar once, and then never again. that should be enough for those oops, I was drunk when I chose my name issues.
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2008.08.07 12:31:00 - [114] As for people confusing identities there's nothing stopping impersonators or imitators today so why would aliases be hurtful in that aspect? Example would be the veteran Tobias Sjodin and the newfound entry Tob'ias Sjodin. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Inara Subaka Caldari the united	Posted - 2008.08.07 13:57:00 - [115] Originally by: Tarron Sarek As for me, I think the rich people in EVE are too rich. No, that's not jealousy. I'm perfectly happy. Redistribution of the wealth? People are that rich because they earned that ISK in some manner or another (be it honorable, through cutthroat scamming practices, or GTC trade). To even suggest that they shouldn't have that much is spitting in the face of what they have earned. And On-Topic: meh, I'm of the philosophy that you should be able to come up with a semi reasonable name for a character. And if you make something dumb like "Teh Buttmuncher" as your name, you deserve the ridicule you get (I hope noone actually has that name).
davet517	Posted - 2008.08.07 15:52:00 - [116] Edited by: davet517 on 07/08/2008 15:54:04 Um.... take a look at this 5 year old beauty. Yeah, first name, last initial, area code seemed like a good idea at the time.... Name change with a history would suit the Dev's desire to keep people accountable for their pasts. I mean, they let you sell characters, and other than forum searches there isn't even a way to tell. Selling a character that has blown his reputation by theiving and such is pretty commonplace, so I don't think not allowing name changes does what the devs said they wanted to do anyway. How bout it devs? I'll gladly trade that funny lookin' shuttle I got on my 5th birthday for a more reasonable name. I'd even throw in 20 dollars American.
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2008.08.13 23:16:00 - [117] Originally by: Inara Subaka ...meh, I'm of the philosophy that you should be able to come up with a semi reasonable name for a character. And if you make something dumb like "Teh Buttmuncher" as your name, you deserve the ridicule you get (I hope noone actually has that name).[/quote But people do and that's the problem, they cannot evolve from it once the chuckles have worn off to become better immersed in the game and help it grow and with every silly name added the rich tapestry of prime fiction seems more and more wasted and useless. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
davet517	Posted - 2008.08.13 23:44:00 - [118] Edited by: davet517 on 13/08/2008 23:44:55 Originally by: Danton Marcellus But people do and that's the problem, they cannot evolve from it once the chuckles have worn off to become better immersed in the game and help it grow and with every silly name added the rich tapestry of prime fiction seems more and more wasted and useless. Funny thing Danton, is that you're promoting this and out of all of us your name is fairly reasonable. I'd certainly trade you. I appreciate the effort though.
Joey Meow MURAKAMI INDUSTRIES	Posted - 2008.08.14 02:14:00 - [119] Yea OK, I like my name. But, I know there is a number of unfortunates who have chosen badly. It is up to the CCP to redeem them, if CCP so chooses. I suppose those old farts who have chosen wisely may be a bit bitter, or those who could not live with their names and had to re-roll a character, might be a bit unsettled by it. But, this a public service, I think. Anyway, if there ever was a passionate plea for name changes, even if CCP might disagree, this would be it: Originally by: Danton Marcellus ...People do [Pick unlucky/bad/silly names] and that's the problem, they cannot evolve from it once the chuckles have worn off to become better immersed in the game and help it grow and with every silly name added the rich tapestry of prime fiction seems more and more wasted and useless.
Vyktor Abyss IONSTAR Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.14 02:56:00 - [120] Sorry Danton, but I think this is a bad idea. It would be yet another thing for people to misuse and try to scam or exploit other players with. Charater identity in Eve is important since a lot of the game's trust is based on reputation. The ability to rename yourself aswell as reimage yourself kind of buggers up that delicate trust balance we have currently since its easier to escape your previous deeds/misdeeds. If you have to check someones name history to find out who they really are or were, then essentially everyone's reputation becomes worth less. Example: Titan pilot who everyone knows changes name. Jumps into local during fleet op - "Just another red" defenders think - Boom. Doomsdays fleet who weren't even aware that Titan pilots name had changed. Even worse a 'buddie' switches name to the well known pilots after his original name is no longer taken and usurps his reputation. It is a minefeild of issues/exploits. Another issue is all the programming required for "search for character name", killmail logs, forums, transaction/market logs or anywhere else character names appear. Should this really be a priority for CCP? I hate to say it but if people dont like their name they can always reroll. People with crap names normally get nicknames in their social circle of pilots anyway so does a crap name really matter at the end of the day? Hope this was constructive feedback.
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2008.08.14 13:03:00 - [121] Originally by: Vyktor Abyss Sorry Danton, but I think this is a bad idea. It would be yet another thing for people to misuse and try to scam or exploit other players with. Charater identity in Eve is important since a lot of the game's trust is based on reputation. The ability to rename yourself aswell as reimage yourself kind of buggers up that delicate trust balance we have currently since its easier to escape your previous deeds/misdeeds. If you have to check someones name history to find out who they really are or were, then essentially everyone's reputation becomes worth less. Example: Titan pilot who everyone knows changes name. Jumps into local during fleet op - "Just another red" defenders think - Boom. Doomsdays fleet who weren't even aware that Titan pilots name had changed. Even worse a 'buddie' switches name to the well known pilots after his original name is no longer taken and usurps his reputation. It is a minefeild of issues/exploits. Another issue is all the programming required for "search for character name", killmail logs, forums, transaction/market logs or anywhere else character names appear. Should this really be a priority for CCP? I hate to say it but if people dont like their name they can always reroll. People with crap names normally get nicknames in their social circle of pilots anyway so does a crap name really matter at the end of the day? Hope this was constructive feedback. Since people sell characters this point is no longer valid, as for spotting titan pilots people should use scanners and other intel for that, local isn't an intel tool and shouldn't be, it's soon changing anyways and even I can fly a titan so should I sell myself to the highest bidder people in the fleet would be in for a surprise still. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2008.08.26 14:06:00 - [122] Originally by: davet517 Edited by: davet517 on 13/08/2008 23:44:55 Originally by: Danton Marcellus But people do and that's the problem, they cannot evolve from it once the chuckles have worn off to become better immersed in the game and help it grow and with every silly name added the rich tapestry of prime fiction seems more and more wasted and useless. Funny thing Danton, is that you're promoting this and out of all of us your name is fairly reasonable. I'd certainly trade you. I appreciate the effort though. It's not altruistic, I have to stomach watching all these supposed names fly by every day. There isn't a day going by I don't wish for a way to blank out the names in local and replace them with blanket denominators like BoB Puny, BoB Light, BoB Deadly or something generic like that to ease the suffering. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Shadow Sapphire	Posted - 2008.08.26 19:14:00 - [123] Totaly Agree . Whit 5 pages of support i think it's time to put the issue to the CSM Assembly Hall
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2008.08.27 03:29:00 - [124] Oh I think it'll have to simmer here a while still, half of the posts being by me and all and CCP sticking to their rethorics about 'accountability', whatever that is in this day in age of revolving characters. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2008.09.12 19:44:00 - [125] Not being a big fan of the crying game over in the Assembly Hall this stays here for a while longer to gain some grassroot support. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
davet517	Posted - 2008.09.12 20:44:00 - [126] Originally by: Danton Marcellus Not being a big fan of the crying game over in the Assembly Hall this stays here for a while longer to gain some grassroot support. Supported! In a grass-roots kinda way. As for the security concerns, it shouldn't be all that tough to put a "name changed to" line in the employment history. That way if you're checking references (as if anyone ever does) you know what name the people you're talking to knew the character by.
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2008.09.24 02:09:00 - [127] Hyphens would allow for a wider range of cultural differences. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2008.10.10 20:34:00 - [128] My ganker alias is Overlord Daddypants III. It'd be nice if CCP included three part names as well sometime down the line and no, not going to change to that, that's just funny for oh about 3 seconds.
Gautan Virdamot Nebula Rasa Technologies	Posted - 2008.10.20 22:08:00 - [129] For the playerbase to evolve this change is necessary.
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2008.10.28 22:19:00 - [130] Hmm, some odd comment there but I'll take it. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Slade Trillgon Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2008.10.31 10:44:00 - [131] As long as all past alias are bloked from future use I am for this. The only problem is that someone could scam switch and then scam again, but that as always this issue is on the shoulders of whoever got scammed. All you have to do is check the history of aliaes, go to crime and punishment and ask if any of the aliases are known to be bad seeds. Not that is fullproof, but prevention of scamming and corp theft are never 100% especially if the individual is good at what they do. Slade Originally by: Crumplecorn NerfBat is now known as the WaveMachine. ≡v≡
Atharax	Posted - 2008.10.31 12:40:00 - [132] Danton Marcellus You have made a good presentation in favour of your idea and reasons for allowing a namechange. I have however to say no, never and should not happen for reasons pointed out in this thread already. If there a list somewhere of past aliases does not matter. You don't have the time to check on something like that when somebody suddenly appear at a gate in 0-space. In this game we have chosen a path and created our own destiny any money, ingame or r/l ones should not make it possible to create a clean slate.
Slade Trillgon Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2008.10.31 13:59:00 - [133] Edited by: Slade Trillgon on 31/10/2008 14:00:17 Originally by: Atharax Danton Marcellus You have made a good presentation in favour of your idea and reasons for allowing a namechange. I have however to say no, never and should not happen for reasons pointed out in this thread already. If there a list somewhere of past aliases does not matter. You don't have the time to check on something like that when somebody suddenly appear at a gate in 0-space. In this game we have chosen a path and created our own destiny any money, ingame or r/l ones should not make it possible to create a clean slate. But their name change would not affect their red/blue/neutral status correct? EDIT: The neutral status could cause some problems unless you run a NBSI, possibly Slade Originally by: Crumplecorn NerfBat is now known as the WaveMachine. ≡v≡
C4LYP50 The Sky Is The Limit	Posted - 2008.10.31 16:43:00 - [134] I'd rather this wasn't implemented, for a variety of reasons, mostly already mentioned. Most players I know by reputation, and I often set personal standings with them even though I might consider their corp unknown or neutral. I'm sorry if some people didn't take the time to choose a name they could stand to see forever, but there is a reason for the saying "Fools rush in". The only name changes I can support are those which fall under CCP's name change policy (offensiveness). I can kind of understand the RP arguement, but again, if your character is years old and his/her only drawback is a silly name, you are kind of grasping at straws here. You lived with it just fine for this long? New character? Reroll it! The little time lost on skills will be more than made up for by the lack of aggravation about a name. Just my 2 isk Brunette By Birth...........Blonde By Nature. ------------------------------------------------ "Your suffering will be legendary, even in Hell." "No tears, please; it's a waste of good suffering."
Korovyov Luminous Love Brewery	Posted - 2008.10.31 18:19:00 - [135] I think CCP should allow a name change, but charge $15 for every month the character has been active to punish them for rolling a toon with a failname. --=--=-- end of post --=--=-- got booze?
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2008.10.31 22:00:00 - [136] Originally by: Atharax Danton Marcellus You have made a good presentation in favour of your idea and reasons for allowing a namechange. I have however to say no, never and should not happen for reasons pointed out in this thread already. If there a list somewhere of past aliases does not matter. You don't have the time to check on something like that when somebody suddenly appear at a gate in 0-space. In this game we have chosen a path and created our own destiny any money, ingame or r/l ones should not make it possible to create a clean slate. I'd rather see names of players not showing at all in space unless they opt to. Why is it that you can identify anyone in their ships from their mere presence there? Ship type and affiliation only in the overview would be ideal. Showing names for people to take into account is discouraging fights more than anything, let those be diplayed post battle, via killmails, for bragging rights. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2008.11.06 05:37:00 - [137] This will probably go over much better after the proposed local nerf when reading someones name in local isn't a must for some of the hardcore elements in the game. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Roxanna Kell R0XYRACHO	Posted - 2008.11.24 21:23:00 - [138] good stuff, i like the pilot number thingy, it does something real important here, as some people may complain over it being bad when booting a spy from corp or trying to identify someone for whatever reason, i am 100% with you mate. Quote: Knowledge is having a forward scout in a roaming op, wisdom is to scout the rear as well.
Techkraft Amarr Chickens with an Attitude Dark Solar Empire	Posted - 2008.11.25 20:36:00 - [139] Edited by: Techkraft on 25/11/2008 20:36:44 the whole you can change your portrait but not your name. Your name is what people recognize, I have corpm8's for years and couldn't pick them in a lineup looking at there pics. And checking everyone, what there names were / is this really johndo1 or is it Oprah2008 etc. It's hard enough as it is for diplomats, target calling at know advisaries, recruits, contracts. If you ask me a lot of hassle, certainly most are proud of there names. I feel bad for some of the names I found in here , but eumz its eve...cold / dark / harsh. Just ride with your names m8's, it's what makes you sexy. Techkraft
evilphoenix Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2008.11.26 02:02:00 - [140] Edited by: evilphoenix on 26/11/2008 02:04:41 I like this idea. I have created a similar thread for the CSMs in the assembly hall. http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=930338 --------
Amjax	Posted - 2008.12.03 14:19:00 - [141] Brilliant idea, would love to see it implemented.
Daevonar Minmatar Starfish Operating Syndicate	Posted - 2008.12.14 09:27:00 - [142] Edited by: Daevonar on 14/12/2008 09:29:10 Originally by: xaioguai yes, I was in one of the situation you stated earlier. Play the first 15 days, didn't bother to think of a name that suit me, to make the matter worst, its a typo no one can pronounce without spitting all over the keyboard. However, I am against the idea. Just think what if the whole fleet change name to something no one can pronounce 2 days before the operation, then change back after the engagement...... On second thought, it may be a solution to fix target calling technique. Oh? I pronounced it Zogwai... like mogwai, but... errr... with a z. No spitting necessery :) EDIT: oops and signed. This would be a good idea so long as it records your past names as the OP proposed Dae.
Cheopis Amarr One Stop Mining Shop One Stop Research	Posted - 2008.12.14 10:45:00 - [143] Edited by: Cheopis on 14/12/2008 10:46:57 /signed The biggest problem I see is that people might change their names, and you might not note immediately who they are, and that confusion might be used to advantage. I would suggest that if a player on your address book changes their name, the login notification icon that pops up should have a very distinctive appearance indicating a new name, telling you what the old name was, and a popup with a "don't show this again for this character" option should appear. If you don't click the option, every time that player logs in, you have to acknowledge who they are, until you can remember and feel comfortable dropping the warning.
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2008.12.17 01:06:00 - [144] Edited by: Danton Marcellus on 17/12/2008 01:06:48 Originally by: Cheopis Edited by: Cheopis on 14/12/2008 10:46:57 /signed The biggest problem I see is that people might change their names, and you might not note immediately who they are, and that confusion might be used to advantage. I would suggest that if a player on your address book changes their name, the login notification icon that pops up should have a very distinctive appearance indicating a new name, telling you what the old name was, and a popup with a "don't show this again for this character" option should appear. If you don't click the option, every time that player logs in, you have to acknowledge who they are, until you can remember and feel comfortable dropping the warning. It's no more an issue than pirate corporations once on your radar and set red just pack up and form another corporation showing neutral as to not give you heads up. Rinse and repeat approach. You should always be vigilant no matter what their names are, unless they're l33ts, then just kill them outright. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Barbara Nichole Cryogenic Consultancy Black Sun Alliance	Posted - 2008.12.17 06:30:00 - [145] I have no problem with also known as additions.. but it's like my dad used to tell his clients when they'd come in and want a legal name change, "you can call yourself whatever you want and it costs nothing." You could just use the bios or title fields to add alis' for your character. You can go by whatever you like.. especially in corp or alliance.. When it comes time for a real legal change on the account, I don't like that idea. People will be changing names on a whim. The criminal who stole 100 billion from your corp that you are trying to hunting down.. well, he'll have changed his identity 5 times before you can find him. wouldn't like that at all so there would have to be an "also named" history and the orignal name would have to remain primary.
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2008.12.18 03:25:00 - [146] Originally by: Barbara Nichole I have no problem with also known as additions.. but it's like my dad used to tell his clients when they'd come in and want a legal name change, "you can call yourself whatever you want and it costs nothing." You could just use the bios or title fields to add alis' for your character. You can go by whatever you like.. especially in corp or alliance.. When it comes time for a real legal change on the account, I don't like that idea. People will be changing names on a whim. The criminal who stole 100 billion from your corp that you are trying to hunting down.. well, he'll have changed his identity 5 times before you can find him. wouldn't like that at all so there would have to be an "also named" history and the orignal name would have to remain primary. There would be a name history just like employment records, it's said many a times over, how could you miss it? Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2008.12.26 04:30:00 - [147] Given EVE is the only MMO without a character cap you simply don't max out and restart with someone new and improved. Means to develop the current and heavily invested in character is needed. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Plexar Varius	Posted - 2009.01.08 07:20:00 - [148] Edited by: Plexar Varius on 08/01/2009 07:23:11 I would have to agree. Aliases would be just fine. If I can buy a character from someone else using in game isk, then why can I not change his name? It would make the character purchaser not so limited (like I am) and would possibly allow us to stick around. I know for myself the name is very personal and I would love to have a feature like this even at a once in a year / once in character lifetime type of setting even. I would like to add that legal name changes are available in the real world as well. Its not like changing a name would wipe your criminal record, and it is much easier for CCP to keep a "record" of past history than the billions of people records are kept on.
Jeanette Plato Caldari Amargosa Observatory Zzz	Posted - 2009.01.08 07:34:00 - [149] Originally by: Danton Marcellus Aliases, people come into EVE thinking they'll do the trial or just stay for a few hours then they're hooked and don't want to go back and create a new character or even won't see the added benefits of sporting a real name till much later. When they months later have grown dead tired of being Hugh Janus or Dao2 enter alias'! It works as follow; People pay a certain amount of ingame currency for the privilege of a new name and field it much like a petition, fixed sum would range from 100M to 1B, ideally in an increasing fee for repeat offenders, doubling every time. Their old name is added to a list much like employment history and is easy to find for those wondering where their old nemesis went. I'd also like for there to be an on creation name generator, a tool to help those among us who know they can't think of an immersive name to save their lives. You like your nickname? There's nothing saying you can't have nicknames on the side of a real name, hell even in my outfit being name facists we nickname people left right and center. Programming this you might want to add a unique podpilot number to each character which can never be altered, that way people who against all odds spam up name changes can never outrun who they truly are should the repoman come knocking. #1. I think this should be a paid feature and can only be done once. #2. Below the person's new name, there should be an AKA OldName #3. Searching for that person under either the old name or the new name will show the same person. #4. All histories, blocked lists and standings need to remain intact. On a personal note, I named my first character here in Eve the same name I had in Earth & Beyond. Doesn't really work for me anymore and I'd REALLY like to change it.
Ens Gallente Gallente Nebula Rasa Vanguard Nebula Rasa	Posted - 2009.01.19 06:59:00 - [150] /signed i totally support this idea... when i created this character it wasn't important to me what the name was... i was here just to blow up some spaceships... i changed few corps, had fun... and then 6 months later i met the RASA guys... first time that my char name bothered me was when i wasn't accepted into the Nebula Rasa Holdings because of their naming policy... (luckily there was a corp in the RASA that accepted the "name impaired" people as Danton loves to call us...) i wasn't going to just trow away 6 months worth of SP... (and most of the new guys don't even want to throw away 10 days of SP... when you only have 1.5mill SP that 500k SP is a lot to you) i read through the whole topic... but i can't remember all the problems you guys found with this idea... 1. People taking your original name when u change it... ------------------------------------------------------------- Solution 1. Make name changing possible only by swapping names between your characters (like it is for changing portraits) and if u don't want someone else to use your old name just keep the character that has the old name now... Solution 2. Keep all the old names locked, but only allow 2-3 name changes for a character ------------------------------------------------------------- This also solves the EVE running out of available names (as much as i think that would never happen) ------------------------------------------------------------- 2. CCP not wanting players to be able to run from their past... ------------------------------------------------------------- CCP allowed selling of the character... so they allow for players to take someone else's fame and past... and our previous past wouldn't be erased... you have the aliases tab to check the old names... i check the player employment history for every pilot i see in local (even the blue ones... i know... i'm paranoid) so why is it harder to check for 2-3 aliases than last 10 corporations player was in? -------------------------------------------------------------- 3. People abusing this by changing names all the time -------------------------------------------------------------- Make the name changing payable... 15$ or something like that... and also (as mentioned above) limit the name changing to 2-3 times -------------------------------------------------------------- 4. DataBase problems with changing your name -------------------------------------------------------------- I realy REALY REALY don't believe that we are indexed in the database with our character names... we are indexed with User ID (probably the same as User ID in the API) and the names of all three characters you can have are just fields that are linked to the primary key that is User ID and they can be changed without any problems -------------------------------------------------------------- 5. Losing standings, corp roles, what-not... -------------------------------------------------------------- as above... these are not linked to the character names but some ID keys that don't change... -------------------------------------------------------------- 6. Not being able to recognize the titan pilots or something like that... -------------------------------------------------------------- If you know those pilots buy name... you can always look up their aliases tab, and with the local being removed as the intelligence gathering tool this problem really doesn't apply and just do as i do... write stuff about them in their notes... that's what they are there for... -------------------------------------------------------------- As i'm running out of place in this post and running out of problem i remembered reading, i'll just finish this... and if you guys find some more problems with this do write them down and i'm sure somebody (if not me) will find a solution for them Ens www.save-evetv.com
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings Nebula Rasa	Posted - 2009.01.22 02:20:00 - [151] Ah Ens lovely support there, I almost forgive you for getting me killed.
Myfanwy Pisces P H O E N I X	Posted - 2009.01.22 09:42:00 - [152] I like this idea but weirdly enough, I don't think I'd use it. Reached a point where my crappy name has finally grown on me. (Was so fantastically unimaginative when I was on the trial making my first eve character... first name + your starsign = a few years to get over. Apparently though, ingame contacts remember me by my name and I'm sure the same applies to many others.
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings Nebula Rasa	Posted - 2009.02.06 01:51:00 - [153] Hello it is me again, the future calling. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings Nebula Rasa	Posted - 2009.02.09 20:25:00 - [154] With attribute redistribution and minmaxing for FOTM training I see no reason not to cater for FOTM names, why make anything stick if attributes doesn't? Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Robert Caldera	Posted - 2009.02.09 20:56:00 - [155] yep, I would pay as well... I've chosen a stupid name for my first character and would like to change it! An alias list is a great Ideam I had it too but didn't post it into forums :) However, players should be able to be found via all their aliases.
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2009.03.17 16:43:00 - [156] Originally by: Robert Caldera yep, I would pay as well... I've chosen a stupid name for my first character and would like to change it! An alias list is a great Ideam I had it too but didn't post it into forums :) However, players should be able to be found via all their aliases. I kept the idea on a scribbled little note in my pocket for 3 years prior to posting, so I had the idea first! Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Tricia Karlyle	Posted - 2009.03.21 16:15:00 - [157] Edited by: Tricia Karlyle on 21/03/2009 16:24:34 Edited by: Tricia Karlyle on 21/03/2009 16:23:35 /signed I second this topic. When I made up my char-name for the trial I didn't know that the people in the Caldari-State have mandarin/japanese?-origin names. I chose a name I thought that sound conveniant at that time ..considering the appearance of my pilot. I always try to immerse rp-like in a MMO and feel a bit 'uncomfortable' that my caldari NPC-contacts have names like: Hinasushie, Kikuyaki, Mikata.. etc. while my (caldari)-pilot has a name of european-origin. I therefore would like to be able (e.g. pay for) to change the name so it fits better into my background-story as a caldari pilot.
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2009.03.23 23:10:00 - [158] Originally by: Tricia Karlyle Edited by: Tricia Karlyle on 21/03/2009 16:24:34 Edited by: Tricia Karlyle on 21/03/2009 16:23:35 /signed I second this topic. When I made up my char-name for the trial I didn't know that the people in the Caldari-State have mandarin/japanese?-origin names. I chose a name I thought that sound conveniant at that time ..considering the appearance of my pilot. I always try to immerse rp-like in a MMO and feel a bit 'uncomfortable' that my caldari NPC-contacts have names like: Hinasushie, Kikuyaki, Mikata.. etc. while my (caldari)-pilot has a name of european-origin. I therefore would like to be able (e.g. pay for) to change the name so it fits better into my background-story as a caldari pilot. They're way more finnish than asian. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Myung Chul Gallente Cybernetic Shadow	Posted - 2009.03.23 23:14:00 - [159] how about once evry 12 months like the remap with a 20mil isk payment
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2009.03.28 01:53:00 - [160] Originally by: Myung Chul how about once evry 12 months like the remap with a 20mil isk payment In the day in age where attributes are done away with, skills are put into overdrive, why do they hold back on this? It's not like 99% of EVE has a name to ruin. It can only improve. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
R4d1o4ct1v3 MySQL Real Escape String	Posted - 2009.03.28 02:49:00 - [161] I very much support this idea! This was a trial char made only to get my friends to stop bugging my to try this game. Five years later I'm wishing I had given this a bit more thought. ISK, money, body parts, whatever... I'll gladly pay it. ---- "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." - Albert Einstein
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2009.04.12 20:10:00 - [162] Originally by: R4d1o4ct1v3 I very much support this idea! This was a trial char made only to get my friends to stop bugging my to try this game. Five years later I'm wishing I had given this a bit more thought. ISK, money, body parts, whatever... I'll gladly pay it. You just burned out part of my retinas with that abomination, how's that for bodyparts? Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
ShadowDraqon The Quantum Company	Posted - 2009.05.01 15:26:00 - [163] Edited by: ShadowDraqon on 01/05/2009 15:30:04 Bump to great idea, I want a sort of "channel mask" believe I put my idea out somewhere in this thread. (Edit: No I didn't...) One of those ideas that don't affect game balance at all, and thus implementing it would be no fuss (oh god, did I just rhyme?) S ~ I ~ G ~ N ~ A ~ T ~ U ~ R ~ E
ShadowDraqon The Quantum Company	Posted - 2009.05.01 15:36:00 - [164] My idea of aliases/nicknames: You set a nickname, or "channel mask". It will appear in channels, bracketed, like this: "Shady" > hi instead of ShadowDragon > hi I think I'll make a thread about this... (runs off to post a new thread) S ~ I ~ G ~ N ~ A ~ T ~ U ~ R ~ E
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2009.05.25 01:56:00 - [165] Originally by: ShadowDraqon My idea of aliases/nicknames: You set a nickname, or "channel mask". It will appear in channels, bracketed, like this: "Shady" > hi instead of ShadowDragon > hi I think I'll make a thread about this... (runs off to post a new thread) A spin on things, I'm not too fond of brackets myself, they were used to death during the 80s or was it 90s? I forget. What I would like is to see information handed out readily to everyone being decreased, that means more than just names, aliases, corporate history and such but let's not go too radical here and stick to those. What I'd like to see is agent connections playing a bigger role in datamining, that and intel divisions within corporations who actively have to keep tabs on people by following them around and paying agents for fresh drafts of their records. Ideally one would not know who you go up against in a fight other than that he's of a confirmed enemy, unless you've happened to datamine the shipname of said pilot or he has painted 'Danton Marcellus' on the side of the ship inside a big bullseye. That's where killmails come in, after you've downed someone and check out the wreckage and loot you pick up further intel telling you who it was you just blew up. One can dream. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Monomachus	Posted - 2009.06.04 11:17:00 - [166] I would also like the option to change my name. I believe that keeping track of a character based on prior aliases would mitigate the "bad karma" concept that has been mentioned before. We all do a ton of research when we play this game for everything else, what is one more step in finding out who someone used to be. Personally, I created my account years ago when I was into different things. Monomachus was a cool general of Hannibal in the Second Punic War, but flying around space being called "Mono" gets pretty old. I'd be willing to pay money for the change.
McEivalley Fallen Angel's Blade.	Posted - 2009.06.04 13:58:00 - [167] I endorse this idea, btu I don't think anyone should pay. The only thing that should remain constant would be the first name. Any added alias will be smaller and can never be deleted. Only the player should be able to add it and he should not be able to do it for more than once a year if he so wishes. Insert clever remark where??
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2009.06.10 12:34:00 - [168] Originally by: McEivalley I endorse this idea, btu I don't think anyone should pay. The only thing that should remain constant would be the first name. Any added alias will be smaller and can never be deleted. Only the player should be able to add it and he should not be able to do it for more than once a year if he so wishes. An alias is an alias, I don't see why there should be restrictions on it like not being able to change the first name. Some don't when they opt for a new name but if you're going into witness protection or something like that you'd most certainly do. This proposal is however nothing like that as you can still find your old nemesis no matter what but I'd very much like to see the pilots being given a clean slate to possibly get more immersive names. I'm sure there are people who will go in the opposite direction too, that's all good, then I don't need to feel that I'm griefing people for killing them based on their names anymore since it's no longer about one bad choice years ago but a brain rot that's got to be exterminated. -Subhuman in the system! Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Sir Substance Minmatar The Empire Nation Dead Mans Hand	Posted - 2009.06.10 13:46:00 - [169] Originally by: Danton Marcellus With attribute redistribution and minmaxing for FOTM training I see no reason not to cater for FOTM names, why make anything stick if attributes doesn't? because as is bleedly obvious to anyone with half a brain, if you gank me once, im going to dock every time i see you in local. if you can change your name, i cant do that. it removes all concept of each person having a history. like it or not, you do have a history, and if i have to click through menus to see it, thats not good enough.
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2009.06.13 19:38:00 - [170] Edited by: Danton Marcellus on 13/06/2009 19:40:28 Originally by: Sir Substance Originally by: Danton Marcellus With attribute redistribution and minmaxing for FOTM training I see no reason not to cater for FOTM names, why make anything stick if attributes doesn't? because as is bleedly obvious to anyone with half a brain, if you gank me once, im going to dock every time i see you in local. if you can change your name, i cant do that. it removes all concept of each person having a history. like it or not, you do have a history, and if i have to click through menus to see it, thats not good enough. That argument doesn't hold any water, there are far too many people out there I know will want to kill me for me to remember names, they change corporations more often than I change underwear to achieve this stealth you say an alias would provide. In short, if you've been around as long as I have you no longer care much what the actual names are for the sake of assessing threats, you assess them based on actions and oppertunity but seldom to never on that he's a known badboy. There are just too many to keep tabs of. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Lucas Avidius Einherjar Rising Cry Havoc.	Posted - 2009.06.14 00:11:00 - [171] Make it so that each alias still returns the character. So if some guy creates a character named "Edward Bob" and later wants to be known as "Bob Edward", either name would return him on a search. Make it cost more per alias. 100M for the first, 500M for the second, 2.5B for the third...etc....
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2009.06.14 00:50:00 - [172] Originally by: Lucas Avidius Make it so that each alias still returns the character. So if some guy creates a character named "Edward Bob" and later wants to be known as "Bob Edward", either name would return him on a search. Make it cost more per alias. 100M for the first, 500M for the second, 2.5B for the third...etc.... Yes that's the idea. The idea is to go by the character ID rather than the name as a character undoubtably are assigned numbers too, fixate on that number and turn up all aliases to that number. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2009.06.22 22:18:00 - [173] As for the cost thing, there are numerous ways CCP could put this ingame, as a reward for a story arch epic out of this world mission series, as a paid for service CCP takes home a lot of money on or a charity set up where you donate a set amount and get to perform one of several customizations of your character, alias, making him obese, tanned, albino, you name if I'm sure they can clone it... All in the name of immersion and profit. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Uronksur Suth Sankkasen Mining Conglomerate Libertas Fidelitas	Posted - 2009.06.22 23:01:00 - [174] Meh, this isn't a bad idea. Make it a paid service, as otherwise people will change their name often enough to be incredibly confusing. Also, maybe it could be an in-game item. Like PLEX, we could have "Name Change Petition" for 1 billion ISK or someting
Victor Michaelle	Posted - 2009.06.23 03:17:00 - [175] I support this notion. I don't think it should be something you pay for though, neither real money nor ISK. If the goal is to see better names in general, then forcing people to pay for it is contraproductive since it might discourage them. I think it could work exactly like the neural remap. You can change once anytime, but then you need to wait a year if you want to change again. That should be enough of a restriction. Oh, and of course old aliases need to be searchable. As for people inevitably finding ways to abuse it... isn't that just part of Eve's charm?
Gnosis19 Caldari People of the Anthropomorphic Worlds Sovereignty	Posted - 2009.06.23 05:02:00 - [176] My two cents: I think that name changes should be allowed. I personally bought this character and like everything about him but the name (hate numbers in names). I think that to minimise (not remove, since it's all a part of Eve) abuse, changes should be one per six month period at a cost of $20 each. In addition, playernames should show up as follows in space: Name <CORP> [ALLIANCE] P.K.A. Oldname And the same on the channel users listing, for a period of 6 months. Anyone who has the character on buddylist would see the PKA message also for the six month period. Overview could have a new column for previous name if required. After the six months, the PKA would only be available through the menu.
Uronksur Suth Sankkasen Mining Conglomerate Libertas Fidelitas	Posted - 2009.06.23 06:21:00 - [177] I think that using the name change feature would have to create a page similiar to "Employment History" which would log all your previous identities.
Recon Zent	Posted - 2009.06.24 22:23:00 - [178] ccp please implement a character renaming feature. to prevent the abuse of this feature you could make the player pay a fee of 15Ç or set it on a cooldown.
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2009.07.09 00:36:00 - [179] I really don't see how allowing name changes is in any way worse for EVE than the latest addition or attribute respecs. How's that for living with the consequences? Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Sigdur Lozh	Posted - 2009.07.09 01:47:00 - [180] just put in a big bold red note saying THIS WILL BE YOUR NAME WHILE YOU ARE PLAYING like in other mmo's
Anubis Assassin Caldari SandStorm.	Posted - 2009.07.09 02:06:00 - [181] I've been begging for this for a little over a year now I think... And to quote a topic I made back in March: Quote: A little while back, I asked about changing bloodlines and was told we couldn't because of the skills and bonuses we get per bloodline... Well, now, bloodlines are pretty much irrelevant. Can I please change my bloodline now? I hate my character :( I hate his face and I hate his name. I'd like to beat my friend over the head with a shovel for "guiding" me into starting my male Achura character instead of letting me go with whatever I wanted. I don't even want to change race, I like being Caldari, I just want to be a Deteis. I think just a one time bloodline change would be nice... Race change would be too much, but just a bloodline change? Please! If I could change my name and bloodline, I'd be happier than a fat kid in a candy store. I started this new character "m3talc0re X" because I didn't want to be Anubis Assassin. I would gladly start a new account to train m3talc0re X on, but I can't afford it, as I imagine a lot of others can't either. --------------------------- I have to make my own sig break? WTF? These forums suck CCP, fix 'em or get something better... I'm tired of reading Khraunus' sig every single time I read one of his
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2009.07.09 11:30:00 - [182] Originally by: Sigdur Lozh just put in a big bold red note saying THIS WILL BE YOUR NAME WHILE YOU ARE PLAYING like in other mmo's In other MMOs you max out and typically start over with new characters once maxed out and bored of that one class. This does not apply to EVE where you never max out or are confined to a class. Name changes allow for people to grow with their character, not grow tired of it. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Mike Voidstar	Posted - 2009.07.09 18:03:00 - [183] Edited by: Mike Voidstar on 09/07/2009 18:05:58 There is an easy solution. Issue Pilot Identification License Numbers. This would be an unchanging, fully searchable indentifier. Then the pilot could change his name, but all his info would be linked to the PIL. If he's a bitter PIL, people will still be able to easily see that. This could be as simple as a 15 digit randomly assigned alphanumeric, to a complex VIN style number, where if you knew how to read it you could tell Race, Bloodline, starting Profession, and prefered underwear color from just reading off the PIL.
Khandahar Bob	Posted - 2009.07.10 00:38:00 - [184] Yes please; my main would pay isk or real money for a name change.
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2009.07.15 00:02:00 - [185] Originally by: Khandahar Bob Yes please; my main would pay isk or real money for a name change. Posting with your main would bring more weight to the board. Unless you're a mass ganker then people without vision will come running and screaming with torches and pitchforks. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Ishkabible22	Posted - 2009.07.15 20:33:00 - [186] i support this, but itd probably only work if they limited it to like, once a year or once every two years or such, and have a way to tell what the name was (if ye really wanted to know) i know id love to change my name >.<; or may be just once per character?
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2009.07.31 20:50:00 - [187] Originally by: Ishkabible22 i support this, but itd probably only work if they limited it to like, once a year or once every two years or such, and have a way to tell what the name was (if ye really wanted to know) i know id love to change my name >.<; or may be just once per character? If you can re-invent your attributes once a year I see nothing to stop them from implementing a once a year alias too. Of course these would be traceable to people that wants to find the previous alias. This would go a long long way towards bringing some real immersion to the game as I'm sure that those serious enough about their spaceships have long since come up with a better name for their character than the one they made up on the spot those many years ago. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Empyre Domestic Reform	Posted - 2009.07.31 21:00:00 - [188] Horrible idea. Sure, scammers can create alts to start their scamming trade over again, but giving them an easy option to change their name and erase all connections to the scams they've been a part of is ludicrous. A character with more time in game has a better chance at being successful at gaining a persons trust than a new character. As it is now, the penalty for exposing your name in a scam is that you have to start over or find victims that don't know you to scam again. This would just allow people to create a single character, and age it as they scam and change their name over and over. The increased charges would mean nothing to a scammer that can take in billions in a single scam. No thanks. what the crap just happened?
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2009.07.31 21:08:00 - [189] Originally by: Empyre Horrible idea. Sure, scammers can create alts to start their scamming trade over again, but giving them an easy option to change their name and erase all connections to the scams they've been a part of is ludicrous. A character with more time in game has a better chance at being successful at gaining a persons trust than a new character. As it is now, the penalty for exposing your name in a scam is that you have to start over or find victims that don't know you to scam again. This would just allow people to create a single character, and age it as they scam and change their name over and over. The increased charges would mean nothing to a scammer that can take in billions in a single scam. No thanks. Ok next time read the actual proposal before you go off spouting reactionist drivel. It's been stated a dozen times that there will be a papertrail. If you can't be bothered to do a rudimentary background check on the character you're trading with then you deserve to be scammed and not even him wearing a big red nose with the text Scammer on would save you. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Empyre Domestic Reform	Posted - 2009.08.01 14:58:00 - [190] Originally by: Danton Marcellus Ok next time read the actual proposal before you go off spouting reactionist drivel. It's been stated a dozen times that there will be a papertrail. If you can't be bothered to do a rudimentary background check on the character you're trading with then you deserve to be scammed and not even him wearing a big red nose with the text Scammer on would save you. You mean this? Originally by: actual proposal Their old name is added to a list much like employment history and is easy to find for those wondering where their old nemesis went. I read it and stand by my statement. Don't be such a douche in assuming the world and everyone in it runs at the whim of your thought process. what the crap just happened?
GTN tr0pa de elite Triumvirate.	Posted - 2009.08.01 15:21:00 - [191] Edited by: GTN on 01/08/2009 15:22:15 i really need to change nick
fifishka	Posted - 2009.08.02 23:01:00 - [192] Edited by: fifishka on 02/08/2009 23:04:51 I'm and my friend (all together 5 chars) are all in. I'll be glad to buy a Time Code and then in my "account managment" will choose - shell it go to pay for game or to change portrate or to change name. Either way CCP gets thier real money and shell get a lot more clients for this new services. Also, whill it shell be a new way to spend isk, EVEs economy shell get 1 more step stronger. I've READ all 7 pages of posts. LOTS of ideas, new ways of INCOME for CCP... and did not meet a SINGLE REPLY from the DEV!
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2009.08.03 13:34:00 - [193] I've seen far too many Chicken Little replies to the idea to be frank. It's been stated over and over on the thread that there should be a paper trail. No-one disputes this yet the sky is still falling some places. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Empyre Domestic Reform	Posted - 2009.08.03 18:33:00 - [194] Originally by: Danton Marcellus I've seen far too many Chicken Little replies to the idea to be frank. It's been stated over and over on the thread that there should be a paper trail. No-one disputes this yet the sky is still falling some places. No one except those that do.. what the crap just happened?
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2009.08.04 04:09:00 - [195] Originally by: Empyre Originally by: Danton Marcellus I've seen far too many Chicken Little replies to the idea to be frank. It's been stated over and over on the thread that there should be a paper trail. No-one disputes this yet the sky is still falling some places. No one except those that do.. Well, it would never get into the game without one so that's pretty much out the window. Accountability is why it's not in but that's being readily circumvented by character trading and disposable alts already so that's really a non-factor. The only thing keeping this down is fear of the unknown. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Empyre Domestic Reform	Posted - 2009.08.04 14:56:00 - [196] Originally by: Danton Marcellus The only thing keeping this down is fear of the unknown. or rationality from players who've played the game for many years. what the crap just happened?
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2009.08.05 01:22:00 - [197] Originally by: Empyre Originally by: Danton Marcellus The only thing keeping this down is fear of the unknown. or rationality from players who've played the game for many years. I've been here longer than most, maybe you should check me up ingame. The chief argument for it not being in was accountability. I dare say that ship has sailed already with character sales. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Empyre Domestic Reform	Posted - 2009.08.05 04:21:00 - [198] Originally by: Danton Marcellus I've been here longer than most, maybe you should check me up ingame. The chief argument for it not being in was accountability. I dare say that ship has sailed already with character sales. notsomuch.. it still costs the person good money to buy characters. what the crap just happened?
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2009.08.05 19:14:00 - [199] Edited by: Danton Marcellus on 05/08/2009 19:15:37 Originally by: Empyre Originally by: Danton Marcellus I've been here longer than most, maybe you should check me up ingame. The chief argument for it not being in was accountability. I dare say that ship has sailed already with character sales. notsomuch.. it still costs the person good money to buy characters. Money was never the issue, accountability was. For people with a reputation rotten beyond repair circumventing the hard coded name, as it stands now to purchase a new character, that's easily financed with the spoils they've gotten from scams and corporate theft. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Empyre Domestic Reform	Posted - 2009.08.06 15:17:00 - [200] Originally by: Danton Marcellus Money was never the issue, accountability was. For people with a reputation rotten beyond repair circumventing the hard coded name, as it stands now to purchase a new character, that's easily financed with the spoils they've gotten from scams and corporate theft. You're talking in circles trying to justify your opinion. "They could hire someone to farm isk to fund their ability to buy characters so they can scam other people and use that money to blah blah blah.." We could go on forever like this but it's obvious this is just something you want, and that's fine. But you're not going to convince me nor anyone else it's for the better. Let's see if it get's added, CCP has the final word. what the crap just happened?
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2009.08.06 22:23:00 - [201] Originally by: Empyre Originally by: Danton Marcellus Money was never the issue, accountability was. For people with a reputation rotten beyond repair circumventing the hard coded name, as it stands now to purchase a new character, that's easily financed with the spoils they've gotten from scams and corporate theft. You're talking in circles trying to justify your opinion. "They could hire someone to farm isk to fund their ability to buy characters so they can scam other people and use that money to blah blah blah.." We could go on forever like this but it's obvious this is just something you want, and that's fine. But you're not going to convince me nor anyone else it's for the better. Let's see if it get's added, CCP has the final word. No I'm not, I'm saying the people you're worried will abuse the system already does via character trades. It's just you who are too dense to understand. I and everyone else but you wants this in the game, see how that piece of **** rhetoric work on the comeback? Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Dillon Arklight Aliastra	Posted - 2009.08.07 01:54:00 - [202] I think the suggestion has some merit. If the number of name changes are limited, maybe 1 change allowed after 1 year. This means that those players who started playing and gave no thought to their names can have some relief. Im not saying that allowing a player to change their names will keep them interested in the game, however it would endear them to it a little more. A public record of the change in name would have to appear in-game on their bio. Maybe a new tab or beneath their name "Dillon Arklight aka Valhalla Cowboy" It would add an element to role-players especially minmatar who can symbolically change their name after they gain their freedom or successfully complete a trial period in a corp etc ect. P.S.Valhalla Cowboy was my first characters name and after a few months i deleted him and started again. Co-host of PODDED Podcast http://podded.libsyn.com/
Empyre Domestic Reform	Posted - 2009.08.07 15:17:00 - [203] Originally by: Danton Marcellus No I'm not, I'm saying the people you're worried will abuse the system already does via character trades. It's just you who are too dense to understand. So the mafia already has a foothold in the community, might as well give them a government seat? How much sense does that make? Originally by: Danton Marcellus I and everyone else but you wants this in the game, see how that piece of **** rhetoric work on the comeback? I love it when people do this. I'd like to thank you, on behalf of everyone else that is, for speaking for the entire population of players. That was a great effort you made to interview each and every one and come to the conclusion that we all, including myself, are on board with you. I guess we just haven't realized it yet? PS. You should get out more, just because the 5 people on your facebook friends list agree with you some of the time, doesn't mean the rest of the world thinks with you all the time. what the crap just happened?
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2009.08.08 13:59:00 - [204] Originally by: Empyre ...But you're not going to convince me nor anyone else it's for the better. Jebus you moron, I was throwing back your flawed reasoning in your face using the everyone agrees with me routine and you even failed to see that. The idea isn't to cater to scammers, that's your concern and every other chicken little coming here screaming bloody murder. It's to allow for a more immersive EVE. Now please get off my thread and pester someone else. I typically like an argument, with intelligent people or dim ones but not the latter posing as the former, that's just annoying to hell and back. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Empyre Domestic Reform	Posted - 2009.08.11 03:13:00 - [205] If you don't want people voicing opinions in your thread on a public forum, I strongly suggest you stop posting on them. You can create your own forum, restrict access to everyone that doesn't agree with you and live happily ever after if you want to, Republicans do it all the time. what the crap just happened?
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2009.08.11 04:46:00 - [206] Originally by: Empyre If you don't want people voicing opinions in your thread on a public forum, I strongly suggest you stop posting on them. You can create your own forum, restrict access to everyone that doesn't agree with you and live happily ever after if you want to, Republicans do it all the time. Like I said I welcome an argument but you don't have one, you have assumptions grabbed mid air and presented as the gospel and presume to know what my agenda is having disregarded every prior entry on the thread. If you do have something constructive to add to the thread by all means, I've just not seen it yet. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Empyre Domestic Reform	Posted - 2009.08.11 19:32:00 - [207] Originally by: Danton Marcellus Like I said I welcome an argument but you don't have one, you have assumptions grabbed mid air and presented as the gospel and presume to know what my agenda is having disregarded every prior entry on the thread. If you do have something constructive to add to the thread by all means, I've just not seen it yet. Wait a second.. which is it? Are my 'assumptions' already established and therefore moot? Or have I not made any yet? I'm getting mixed signals trying to follow your see-saw logic. what the crap just happened?
Rawbin Hood Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2009.08.11 19:38:00 - [208] and the name change fight continues, i don't think it should cost anything, but, should work with corp title management. dout it will ever happen, gl though ◄Brutor► The Movement Because the human race can do better as a whole (despite these forums, they don't count)
Gautan Virdamot Nebula Rasa Vanguard	Posted - 2009.08.11 21:58:00 - [209] Edited by: Gautan Virdamot on 11/08/2009 22:01:10 Originally by: Empyre Originally by: Danton Marcellus Like I said I welcome an argument but you don't have one, you have assumptions grabbed mid air and presented as the gospel and presume to know what my agenda is having disregarded every prior entry on the thread. If you do have something constructive to add to the thread by all means, I've just not seen it yet. Wait a second.. which is it? Are my 'assumptions' already established and therefore moot? Or have I not made any yet? I'm getting mixed signals trying to follow your see-saw logic. Hello there, Danton couldn't come to the boards right now since he got banned by a cerebrally challenged moderator for messing with the head of a troll. In the light of that I'm not about to continue to feed you but to state that you can't follow logic and you projecting your own shortcomings to further your pointless posts trying to look smart doesn't really work. I'll be blunt, you may or may not pick up on that? You've lost, your argument was quickly refuted and tossed out, you've since got nothing, present something new that concerns the idea in this thread or move along. Did anyone fraps it?
Empyre Domestic Reform	Posted - 2009.08.12 18:25:00 - [210] Originally by: Gautan Virdamot Edited by: Gautan Virdamot on 11/08/2009 22:01:10 Originally by: Empyre Originally by: Danton Marcellus Like I said I welcome an argument but you don't have one, you have assumptions grabbed mid air and presented as the gospel and presume to know what my agenda is having disregarded every prior entry on the thread. If you do have something constructive to add to the thread by all means, I've just not seen it yet. Wait a second.. which is it? Are my 'assumptions' already established and therefore moot? Or have I not made any yet? I'm getting mixed signals trying to follow your see-saw logic. Hello there, Danton couldn't come to the boards right now since he got banned by a cerebrally challenged moderator for messing with the head of a troll. In the light of that I'm not about to continue to feed you but to state that you can't follow logic and you projecting your own shortcomings to further your pointless posts trying to look smart doesn't really work. I'll be blunt, you may or may not pick up on that? You've lost, your argument was quickly refuted and tossed out, you've since got nothing, present something new that concerns the idea in this thread or move along. Ah, so you're the trolls alt. (btw, you're not allowed to talk about moderation on the boards) Allow me to introduce myself, I'm the troll-killer. My weapon? Logic and common sense. what the crap just happened?
Gautan Virdamot Nebula Rasa Vanguard	Posted - 2009.08.16 02:09:00 - [211] You got neither, don't flatter yourself, now take your noob ass to another thread and pester them. You've added nothing new or remotely interesting to this thread and you ain't got a clue. Did anyone fraps it?
Ekqhan	Posted - 2009.08.16 06:50:00 - [212] Dude (@ Empyre), you are saying "CCP shouldn't allow it because scammers will be able to run away" He is saying "Scammers already can run away since there is no sp needed for most scams and buying a char fix the sp problem anyways" (you don't know this??). He ALSO said in the very beginning that he propose a "paper trail" (i.e you can trace the name changes and history) to the name change. I.e. you are not making any sense in trying to tell the OP that he isn't argueing properly and that you have "weapons" of "logic" and "common sense" (lol). I sign this /sign
ArmyOfMe The Athiest Syndicate Advocated Destruction	Posted - 2009.08.16 07:24:00 - [213] Originally by: Danton Marcellus Saying they should be stuck with a crap name 'cause they were unimaginative fools when they started out is way harsh. not really. if you made a stupid name when you made your char you should have to live with it
Gautan Virdamot Nebula Rasa Vanguard	Posted - 2009.08.17 01:44:00 - [214] Originally by: Ekqhan Dude (@ Empyre), you are saying "CCP shouldn't allow it because scammers will be able to run away" He is saying "Scammers already can run away since there is no sp needed for most scams and buying a char fix the sp problem anyways" (you don't know this??). He ALSO said in the very beginning that he propose a "paper trail" (i.e you can trace the name changes and history) to the name change. I.e. you are not making any sense in trying to tell the OP that he isn't argueing properly and that you have "weapons" of "logic" and "common sense" (lol). I sign this /sign That is not my alt however, I have way cooler names than that. ArmyofMe, you're just a masochist. Did anyone fraps it?
Cyzin Jita	Posted - 2009.08.17 01:47:00 - [215] Good if implemented as a little RP isk sink. Bad if open slather. /signed.
Snuffmuffin	Posted - 2009.08.17 03:39:00 - [216] (points at own name... sighs...) I can change my face for ten bucks. I would be happy to spend ten bucks to change my name. That's money in CCP's pocket. And I'm perfectly happy to see "name changed" in my employment history and deal with the inevitable "so, why'd you change your name?" question that will certainly come up in a corp interview. A number of early posts in this thread are spot-on. When we downloaded the trial, we plucked the first name that came to mind out of thin air. Two weeks later we subbed, and since we'd already invested two whole weeks in training we certainly didn't want to re-roll (yes, there's some sarcasm in them-thar words, since after two-plus years a couple of weeks seems pretty trivial). Worse yet, I did it on not one, but two accounts. And I hate my other account name even more than this one. I totally agree that actions should have consequences, and that your history should follow you around the virtual galaxy. Being able to adjust your name so that it fits the character you've grown into is perfectly reasonable. Heck, I can change my R/L name. There's no reason to make it impossible to change my game name... Unless the mighty devs did something tremendously silly in their database design and used the character name as the DB key field... Which would make adding name changes a major undertaking... (glances once again at own name... sighs...)
G Knight	Posted - 2009.08.28 18:27:00 - [217] I completely agree with rename and AlsoKnownAss initiatives! So +1.
Gautan Virdamot Nebula Rasa Vanguard	Posted - 2009.08.28 18:54:00 - [218] Originally by: G Knight I completely agree with rename and AlsoKnownAss initiatives! So +1. Was that intended comedy right there? If so it was chuckleworthy.
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2009.09.15 00:54:00 - [219] I'm back, we're back and you still got that crap handle you call a name. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2009.09.22 02:21:00 - [220] Why CCP at least won't add a character creation name generator to give the people knowing they can't come up with a name to save their lives a break is beyond me. I mean why even bother writing fiction when the universe is populated by troglodytes like Bigguns666, p00p & arragorn? Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2009.10.10 02:22:00 - [221] Here's one for our poor recruit HypaTheGreat, short on imagination and with a space bar that failed him at a crucial moment. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
RedLion Caldari State Constructions	Posted - 2009.10.10 02:36:00 - [222] i also had spacebar fail! - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - The Gallenteans must be destroyed - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2009.10.30 22:25:00 - [223] For great justice! Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Iman Atheist Gangrel Mining and Security Dark Taboo	Posted - 2009.11.05 00:00:00 - [224] TLDR... I totally support this idea. I would pay $10 for a new char name, even if my old one is logged in some kind of alias history. Look at my name. I'm absolutely thrilled to be an out-of-the-closet atheist... but when I started EVE I didn't know anything about corps or Ventrilo or realized how bad my "first name" sounds. Ironically, I actually like my char name, but... ...hearing people call me "iimaan" or "aim'n" or "eye-man" all the time is not fun at all... and there are plenty of decent-sounding names I'd like that aren't taken yet - many of which are quite similar to this one.
XvXReaperXvX	Posted - 2009.11.05 16:11:00 - [225] G'day guys i also would like name/nickname change feature to be a reality. thats why i have made this petition http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1209566 i invite you all to come and support it if you want. and to all who think it is a waste of time or its been done befor, i say this, "Keep The Dream Alive!"
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2009.11.13 01:18:00 - [226] If you're going to peddle your goods on my thread at least have the decency to link it proper; Related Stuff? Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
13Ninja	Posted - 2009.11.13 02:09:00 - [227] I am tired of always showing up at the top of local because "Ninja" was taken. /signed
Tagami Wasp Caldari Sarz'na Khumatari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.11.13 05:34:00 - [228] Forethought and mature thinking. Just like common sense, they are rare commodities. Not signed, live with your mistakes and learn. Also, scammers will love this, wtf are you thinking? If you don't like the name you gave to the character you created, you have an option: biomass. Flame away. For example, I still regret that I can't get Tagami [w/out Wasp], the toon I created in open beta, cause I didn't think I would come back to EVE and pay for it.(Can anyone can help with that?) Thus, when I made this new char, I tried to keep my new name close enough to the original.
hacksideways Caldari The MKF	Posted - 2009.11.13 08:41:00 - [229] Edited by: hacksideways on 13/11/2009 08:43:57 Originally by: Tagami Wasp Forethought and mature thinking. Just like common sense, they are rare commodities. Not signed, live with your mistakes and learn. Also, scammers will love this, wtf are you thinking? If you don't like the name you gave to the character you created, you have an option: biomass. Disagree, for this reason: When I first started playing EVE, I created a character named "hackbackwards". I like that name. I intended it to be my main character's name. Unfortunately, when I started up the EVE client, all the text was messed up beyond belief. I couldn't read anything, had no idea what I was clicking on when I went through the character generation process (this was back in '04), and went into the game with a completely random character. On top of that, I wasn't able to read any text in-game besides what was entered in a chat window. After talking with the people in the "Help" channel for a bit, I fixed the problem, and found out that my starting skills and attributes were nothing like what I'd wanted. So I tried to delete "hackbackwards" and create a new character with the same name. Then I found out about the ten-hour time limit on character deletion, and since I wanted to play right now, I created "hacksideways". My current name is a result of a graphics **-up and a small amount of impatience. All I want is to be "hackbackwards" again, not "hacksideways". My friends will still be able to find me because of the "employment history"-like option in my profile, and if this benefits scammers, who cares? They're a part of the game and if you fall for them, too bad so sad. /signed - Originally by:** Liz Laser Exotic Dancers are cargo. That's how we roll.
Waylan Yutani Gallente DEATHFUNK	Posted - 2009.11.14 12:12:00 - [230] signed.. got on eve-online one friday evening after work, installed it and downloaded the patches. didnt really knew if i liked the game at first, but gav it a week - been playing for over two years now. Name selection went something like this "name ?, its a spacegame so how about..lemme see, darth vader, yoda, luke skywalker.. no, luke bumstalker then ??!! - no, uhmm still all taken.. weylan yutani.. taken as well, waylan yutani free.. sure i cant be arsed doing this all day" you can change your avatar, but not your name.. thats just plain silly
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2009.11.19 01:28:00 - [231] Edited by: Danton Marcellus on 19/11/2009 01:28:31 Originally by: Tagami Wasp Forethought and mature thinking. Just like common sense, they are rare commodities. Not signed, live with your mistakes and learn. Also, scammers will love this, wtf are you thinking? If you don't like the name you gave to the character you created, you have an option: biomass. Flame away. For example, I still regret that I can't get Tagami [w/out Wasp], the toon I created in open beta, cause I didn't think I would come back to EVE and pay for it.(Can anyone can help with that?) Thus, when I made this new char, I tried to keep my new name close enough to the original. What I was thinking have been well documented throughout the thread, you've just not been reading. Ushra'Khan must be proud to have an anti-RPer like yourself in their ranks. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Jinx Barker Caldari GFB Scientific	Posted - 2009.11.19 04:06:00 - [232] Although I am still slightly ambivalent about the idea, I think the gist of it, and the premise is still good. Having my reservations as to the actual execution within the game database put aside, I should hope this will get implemented one day. Sometimes I think it would be wonderful to change the names of my other two alts, and just give them all "Barker" surname.
Alezander Jagen JagenCorp Combat Industries	Posted - 2009.11.19 05:59:00 - [233] How about scrapping the ISK/RL money idea for just an "Alias" option in your char profile. If left empty, it uses your character name. When filled, this becomes your displayed name in local and everywhere people would see your name. If someone searches for either your original name or your alias, they get the same profile with "(your character name here) aka (your alias here)". Maybe limit it to a once-per-6-months (or longer) timer like the attribute remap. Put in a delay (NPC corp dealing with all your old paperwork and changing the names) of 1 week before it takes effect. You could possibly attach an ISK/RL Money cost to it to keep everybody from using aliases. Add an "Alias changed to XXXXX" entry in your corp history, and we're set.
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2009.11.19 15:51:00 - [234] Originally by: Alezander Jagen How about scrapping the ISK/RL money idea for just an "Alias" option in your char profile. If left empty, it uses your character name. When filled, this becomes your displayed name in local and everywhere people would see your name. If someone searches for either your original name or your alias, they get the same profile with "(your character name here) aka (your alias here)". Maybe limit it to a once-per-6-months (or longer) timer like the attribute remap. Put in a delay (NPC corp dealing with all your old paperwork and changing the names) of 1 week before it takes effect. You could possibly attach an ISK/RL Money cost to it to keep everybody from using aliases. Add an "Alias changed to XXXXX" entry in your corp history, and we're set. The isk/money bit is just an added incentive to promote better character immersion, it doesn't need be there but without it most everyone would be fooling around with aliases, more so than intended. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2009.12.01 20:10:00 - [235] People will outgrow their characters and given they cannot max out they will become disenchanted with the whole experience if CCP persist in keeping them hardlocked into a name so horrible no-one, not even their worst enemies care to recall them. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2009.12.08 02:29:00 - [236] Trapping people forever with poorly chosen names does on no way protect someone from scammers, that's a myth and a cop-out. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2009.12.24 05:23:00 - [237] Edited by: Danton Marcellus on 24/12/2009 05:24:02 Happy Festivus, this is my gift to you and coincidently also my grievance to air. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2009.12.30 19:01:00 - [238] Just think of that extra limelight on the billboards your criminal selves will get when 4 known aliases roll by in the credits... Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Sturdy Girl Silent Ninja's	Posted - 2009.12.31 12:27:00 - [239] I like the idea of aliases... not so much so that I can change my name (although that is the most obvious use for such a feature), but so that I, my corp, and my alliance, can assign an alias to other players. This should probably be a private system, but maybe with the possibility of making it public, so every player can see a list of players other nicknames, and who calls whom by what. Eg, if you come up with something hilariously catchy, other people might join in with it! Though, I suppose theres posibility of abuse, I think it'd be great. Now, how was it that I used to refer to JerichoSteele?
Swish3r	Posted - 2009.12.31 22:30:00 - [240] Why not make it like remaps, you can only do it once per year (at most) Your user ID is kept, so if you are in any address books you remain there, as well as any notes.
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2010.01.06 20:56:00 - [241] Originally by: Swish3r Why not make it like remaps, you can only do it once per year (at most) Your user ID is kept, so if you are in any address books you remain there, as well as any notes. Any improvement is better than the current status of 'so you made a mistake ' Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Ramon Wilco	Posted - 2010.01.06 21:33:00 - [242] MOUHAHAHA I have the coolest name here !! I dont know about that idea, i think this is a good idea, but... When you play eve, you can see something happen lot of time, like some peoples telling : Spying, Stealing, Robbering... Piracy... Vendetta.. What if i cant follow my nemesis by his name around the universe? If he change he's name... The last objection i have is : If your name suck, at the moment you decided to suscribe to eve, you probably wanted to play for a long time, eve is a mature game, so if you realise your name s... u had to made another account... what is 2 weeks of training skills in eve? nothing, i just made 3 characters before the one i keep... By the way, you can create 3 character by account...
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2010.01.07 13:18:00 - [243] Originally by: Ramon Wilco MOUHAHAHA I have the coolest name here !! I dont know about that idea, i think this is a good idea, but... When you play eve, you can see something happen lot of time, like some peoples telling : Spying, Stealing, Robbering... Piracy... Vendetta.. What if i cant follow my nemesis by his name around the universe? If he change he's name... The last objection i have is : If your name suck, at the moment you decided to suscribe to eve, you probably wanted to play for a long time, eve is a mature game, so if you realise your name s... u had to made another account... what is 2 weeks of training skills in eve? nothing, i just made 3 characters before the one i keep... By the way, you can create 3 character by account... It's been stated again and again and again and again on this very thread that there would be an alias history much like corporate and alliance history to track people with. People get tired of their names, people change, I've been here coming up on 7 years, much can happen in that timespan. Many people I've been talking to didn't think much of their subpar names when they started out but has since wanted to develop their characters but can't seem to get around that first hurdle of a crap name and doesn't want all their hard work go to waste restarting just for the added RP flavor. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Ramon Wilco	Posted - 2010.01.07 13:22:00 - [244] Ok, the last response is more acceptable. But if name change is allow, there MUST be a notification to see the original name. That way, you can change name, but if i make a show info, i have your or yours ancient names. So i can know if u were the little bast... who stole my corps and my stuffs, or the guy who disband all corps of the alliance and made the stars explode... You know what i mean?
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2010.01.12 12:08:00 - [245] Originally by: Ramon Wilco Ok, the last response is more acceptable. But if name change is allow, there MUST be a notification to see the original name. That way, you can change name, but if i make a show info, i have your or yours ancient names. So i can know if u were the little bast... who stole my corps and my stuffs, or the guy who disband all corps of the alliance and made the stars explode... You know what i mean? Yes and I think it's been covered. A possible addition would be to add an application for coveted names of long since retired characters to become available again. This with the retiree getting a Gallente Citizen 104454 label slapped on them and the paying customer getting the new name or alias. The benefit would be twofold, taken names that many want may still become available and getting a unique name that stands out from those very same often wanted names becomes that much more sensible if trying to build a legacy. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Mr Epeen	Posted - 2010.01.12 22:11:00 - [246] I haven't read the whole thread but here is what I think. Having a name change for RP reasons is a good idea. I wouldn't have a corp with Xspock, xspockx, Sp0ck and Spock1 in it. But here's the thing. Let's face it, this is wide open for abuse if the players have control of it. So what I would suggest is you get one shot at it. One. And you don't pick the name. CCP does through a name generator. You can repeatedly hit the change name until you get one you like, but it will be based upon your race and be randomly generated. And like with the portrait change it will cost you RL money. Call it an idiot tax. A way to make it clear to the me gen-me's that there is no free lunch. You must be responsible for your own decisions, else you pay for someone else to make them for you. I have made many character names over the years and managed to do it without bracketing an already taken name or adding numbers for letters. Or being just plain silly ('cept my forum alt, of course). If you can't come up with a decent name to start, odds are you never will be able to. So you pay CCP to do it for you. Mr Epeen
crimson fire	Posted - 2010.01.13 16:27:00 - [247] Great idea, provided your previous names can be found in a change log
Seraphim000 Gallente Goudou Kaisha Hibari	Posted - 2010.01.13 22:09:00 - [248] With a few conditions, this would work well. 1. Like remaps, allow a name change ONLY once per year. 2. Make name changes prohibitively expensive, either in ISK or USD. 3. Keep an Aliases tab in a player's Show Info with their past names. 4. For up to one month after renaming, display the character's old name next to their new name wherever it is referenced, perhaps in parenthesis. Also during this time, make the Aliases tab the default view in the character's Show Info window. 5. Searches for the old name should return the new name as well. These measures should ensure that people take the service seriously, and prevent abuse.
Drykor Minmatar Tribal Liberation Force	Posted - 2010.01.14 22:43:00 - [249] I'd like this too, I need a surname ^^
Lekegolo Khanid	Posted - 2010.01.15 02:25:00 - [250] Originally by: Seraphim000 3. Keep an Aliases tab in a player's Show Info with their past names. You don`t need another tab just change the employment history tab to just history. Then have a entry just like the "left" or "joined" corp ones for name changes stating the pre-change/post-change name as well as the date of the change. This allows you to see what corps knew "name changer", as what and when all in one place.
Alfwen Caldari	Posted - 2010.01.15 06:52:00 - [251] Having coveted a function like this myself for comming on 4 years now and been reading threads about it here on the forums just as long I find utterly baffling that ccp hasn't yet implemented a feature such as this. On topic of the potential for abuse, all arguments concerning avoidance of consequence for certain actions are all null and void with alts being far easier to create(not to mention cheaper) than paying a rl fee to get a namechange especially if as suggested all previous aliases are shown in a history tab and any searches on the old name(s) redirecting you to the new. my 2 cents, supporting the cause.
Alias Eldritch Gallente ZiTek	Posted - 2010.01.15 13:47:00 - [252] As am i having a character this old from scratch means i don't wanna just reroll and start again but equally it would be nice to make it past the first rounds of target calling in any engagement i end up in This was the first MMO game i played and didn't realise what a far reaching effect something as small as namechoice would have!
Ramon Wilco Caldari Psycho Corp	Posted - 2010.01.17 17:28:00 - [253] I propose to send the subject for a proposal in "assebly hall", The objectives : - Allow players to change name, but with ablility to find the old name, and at a cost (isk? usd? Once a year?), to prevent abusive use of this purpose. By the way, using alts to change name not apply there, cause for exemple, if you wanna infiltrate a corporation/alliance for exemple, the rob them and change name... it cost time. With the ability to find old names, you prevent this personn to rob another time the original peoples, but not new he can find, hell, its the game... some people are evil But use an alt, for a long time is part of the game too, but a pirate with 3 years of skills wont use an alt with 10M sp points to do the same lvl of piracy, so alts are not a problem, the only proble is : Can we change of name if we are really tired of seeing IAMTHEKING3345 each time we connect? I think the answer is yes... Fear your incomprehension, but love the differences. Ramon Wilco
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2010.01.18 23:21:00 - [254] Someone took it to that bastard forum already. I deem it a divide and conquer move by CCP, to split playerbase input to make it easier to ignore. This is the only idea forum we really need, let the CSM jockeys ride their donkeys in here. It's the only option that makes sense in the long run, if CCP wants to keep their veterans around in an open-ended skillsystem, to allow for players to grow with their characters. CCP you may concede defeat gradually by implementing a name generator upon character creation. Then ultimately bow before arch mystic Marcellus and present your surrender in a newspiece called the Alias Project, where I'm to be mentioned 5 times and be sent a crate of Quafe at my billing address. Egos aside, this isn't really about me, though the thread may reek of grandstanding and confrontationalism, is that even a word? It's about added revenue, added immersion and added account longevity. Run it by your marketing department and see if it doesn't make business sense. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2010.01.22 22:54:00 - [255] This might even become an agent deal, where you visit your agents to bribe them for various periods of time to be allowed to go by the new alias in their respective jurisdiction. RP reason and moneysink only, as always the papertrail will never go away, allowing old enemies to track you regardless. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Lusulpher Blackwater Syndicate Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.01.29 03:37:00 - [256] Where's the little vote button? This is a P2 feature. They can put links to our other names under the Decorations tab thing. 7
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2010.02.13 04:02:00 - [257] Originally by: Lusulpher Where's the little vote button? This is a P2 feature. They can put links to our other names under the Decorations tab thing. The vote button is on that other bastard forum, Assembly something. This is the actual idea all about input and damage control, no 'first', 'second' or 'supported' but by all means constructive input on the matter, which I dare say grow ever more pressing as EVE gets older. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Randomina Randomona	Posted - 2010.02.13 12:30:00 - [258] NO. I am completely against this idea. It will just make it easier for scammers and the like (even with the name history). You chose the name so you keep it. If you dont like the name then sell the char and get another.
Avalon Ranger Caldari Exitus Acta Probat	Posted - 2010.02.13 14:47:00 - [259] As long as previous names would show in search then I am all for this idea. E.g. If I changed my name (Because I want to, a lot) then if someone searched Avalon they'd get "[NEW NAME] (A.k.a Avalon Ranger)" in the Search Window. If this was done I think most of EVE would change their name in a heart beat. Better yet, add a 12 month restriction to it like remapping. A small fee (100M for the first time seems fair) and a 12 month wait to redo it, of course add validation to check they are sure and the name isn't typed incorrectly. I am all for this. Signed.
Imiarr Timshae Caldari Funny Men In Funny Hats	Posted - 2010.02.13 17:38:00 - [260] ITT : Idiots with **tyly named characters ----- Originally by:** GM Horse Remember kids, both meth and macro use are Really Quite Bad Things.
La Banque	Posted - 2010.02.14 21:39:00 - [261] Joking : Wanna RP? Did you ask your parents for your IRL name? So, logic would be that there won't be any character name choice anytime :) When you first create a character, you are given a random name (that you maybe can regenerate during the morphing process). This would one and for all avoid the "I hate my name" syndrom. And like the names of solar systems, the sound and look of the name you are given changes depending on your race (more Asian-like for Caldari, French-like for Gallenteans, ...). The renamming process we are speaking about in this thread would then be unuseful/illegitimate. Though, having the ability to add a "Nickname" tab/field like the "Bio" would be fun. Adding a nickname history and populating the databases with them for searching purposes would then be enough. Not so joking actually...
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2010.02.23 11:55:00 - [262] Originally by: Randomina Randomona NO. I am completely against this idea. It will just make it easier for scammers and the like (even with the name history). You chose the name so you keep it. If you dont like the name then sell the char and get another. Idiots is what makes things easy for scammers, not added features for greater immersion. You cannot safeguard against idiocy and why would you want to, let the idiot near you get scammed, find out and shed him from your group, as idiots tend to get you killed... Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Aaron MDJones	Posted - 2010.03.04 22:00:00 - [263] Originally by: Seraphim000 With a few conditions, this would work well. 1. Like remaps, allow a name change ONLY once per year. 2. Make name changes prohibitively expensive, either in ISK or USD. 3. Keep an Aliases tab in a player's Show Info with their past names. 4. For up to one month after renaming, display the character's old name next to their new name wherever it is referenced, perhaps in parenthesis. Also during this time, make the Aliases tab the default view in the character's Show Info window. 5. Searches for the old name should return the new name as well. These measures should ensure that people take the service seriously, and prevent abuse. /signed
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2010.03.11 13:53:00 - [264] On an added note I'm all for adding special characters to the names and removing numbers, I don't know what CCP was thinking allowing numbers in names. I'm pretty sure leet was dead back in 2003 already... Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2010.03.22 14:00:00 - [265] Edited by: Danton Marcellus on 22/03/2010 14:00:41 How will there be added depth in the game with ambulation, dust or what have you, when you cannot even develop the character you've started out with beyond the very basic level of name. You do realize you can change your name in the real world, right?!? Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Kalamator Minmatar Nebula Rasa Holdings Nebula Rasa	Posted - 2010.03.28 02:25:00 - [266] I've been gone from eve for a year and a half and this thread is still running seriously, we now have a skills qeue and a remap for attributes to add to the face-change feature, but we still cannot change our name
Gamer4liff Caldari Metalworks Majesta Empire	Posted - 2010.03.28 04:53:00 - [267] As the owner of the Worst Name in Eve«, I support this measure. ----------- Originally by: CCP Whisper Deal with it.
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2010.04.05 00:49:00 - [268] Originally by: Gamer4liff As the owner of the Worst Name in Eve«, I support this measure. WTH were you thinking? Thanks for supporting the cause, with any luck and a smidge of evolution in the online gaming industry we might see progress in this area in the coming decade. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
elnukeo Minmatar The Blue Suns	Posted - 2010.04.05 01:55:00 - [269] +1 I think this would be great ---------------------------------------
K1RTH G3RS3N Reverse Psychology.	Posted - 2010.04.05 07:07:00 - [270] +1 i had no idea what eve was when i created K1RTH G3RS3N. Would much rather just be Kirth Gersen. Signature removed. It needs to be EVE related. Zymurgist Pirates have Parrots therefor its Eve related.
Annabel Dorn	Posted - 2010.04.05 09:00:00 - [271] Edited by: Annabel Dorn on 05/04/2010 09:02:04 Hi, I'm not all that fond of namechanges.. If it would be implemented i'd like to see it as follows: 1st chance: you get the opprtunity to change your name after your trial period. You will be asked in game wether you are satisfied with your character name and wether you want to change it or not. (this will help the people who took a foolish name when they started this game) This will only work for your first created toon. 2nd chance: Some people don't realize how stupid their name is until they join a corp. So the first time you apply to a player corp you get another chance to change your name. The CEO and directors of that corp get a notification of your namechange! 3d chnance: You just bought a toon form someone. It's great toon and a good deal. You just hate the name. Again you have a chance to change the name. (this feature doesn't work for toons transferred between accounts owned by the same real life person.) cheers, Annabel
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2010.04.14 10:50:00 - [272] Originally by: Annabel Dorn Edited by: Annabel Dorn on 05/04/2010 09:02:04 Hi, I'm not all that fond of namechanges.. If it would be implemented i'd like to see it as follows: 1st chance: you get the opprtunity to change your name after your trial period. You will be asked in game wether you are satisfied with your character name and wether you want to change it or not. (this will help the people who took a foolish name when they started this game) This will only work for your first created toon. 2nd chance: Some people don't realize how stupid their name is until they join a corp. So the first time you apply to a player corp you get another chance to change your name. The CEO and directors of that corp get a notification of your namechange! 3d chnance: You just bought a toon form someone. It's great toon and a good deal. You just hate the name. Again you have a chance to change the name. (this feature doesn't work for toons transferred between accounts owned by the same real life person.) cheers, Annabel I don't like how you try to steer peoples wants and needs for a name change, people come to revelations at different points in their EVE career, some might be very late and people like me going on 7 years may be dead tired of their persona. Not that I am. Also I don't like it for people buying characters, I loath the practice and in no way do I want to cut them some slack. I still want the feature any time a player pleases with whatever cost and papertrail is necessary to curb abuse. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Tornicks Caldari U-208 Blade.	Posted - 2010.04.16 17:57:00 - [273] Not a bad idea at all. -- 'Non-essential personnel, abandon ship.' Admiral Yakiya Tovil-Toba's last command, CE23155
Syn Callibri Minmatar Swag Co. Sandbox Bullies	Posted - 2010.04.16 18:49:00 - [274] Waiting for "Hugh Janus" to respond to this thread! "I have just as much authority as the empress, just not as many people that believe it."
Nick Bete	Posted - 2010.04.30 18:56:00 - [275] Supporting this in support/sympathy for all those xxXD4rtHvAD3r666Xxx people out there.
Dolbanovski Gallente	Posted - 2010.05.01 02:08:00 - [276] Edited by: Dolbanovski on 01/05/2010 02:13:29 Edited by: Dolbanovski on 01/05/2010 02:11:33 Originally by: Annabel Dorn Edited by: Annabel Dorn on 05/04/2010 09:02:04 Hi, I'm not all that fond of namechanges.. If it would be implemented i'd like to see it as follows: 1st chance: you get the opprtunity to change your name after your trial period. You will be asked in game wether you are satisfied with your character name and wether you want to change it or not. (this will help the people who took a foolish name when they started this game) This will only work for your first created toon. 2nd chance: Some people don't realize how stupid their name is until they join a corp. So the first time you apply to a player corp you get another chance to change your name. The CEO and directors of that corp get a notification of your namechange! 3d chnance: You just bought a toon form someone. It's great toon and a good deal. You just hate the name. Again you have a chance to change the name. (this feature doesn't work for toons transferred between accounts owned by the same real life person.) cheers, Annabel 3rd option would be nice to have. and to everyone: Tbh, I really don't understand all those paranoics that say name changing will ruin EVE. And others that suggest that we should have public logs for your every action, add some watchful eye to monitor everything you do.. what are you people, Big Brother fan club? and please stop with this "you are your reputation" bs already. Cuz you are not. To date there are tons of sold and resold characters who don't give a wooden nickel about old reputation. Name change should exist. Period. It's normal, it's in many other games, it didn't ruin anything there, it won't destroy EVE either. Meaning you'll be able to change your name doesn't mean that 1000's of people gona change their names all of a sudden. I remember when WoW first introduced paid name change to players, people were affraid too, they thought that everyone will go on ninjalooting rampage - did it happen? Hell no. Most people chose to stay in their guilds, with their friends and to have the names that they took when created their characters. Same here - if some freak wants to steal stuff from your corp hangar - he will, in fact such things happen all the time, don't you know? Name change or not, they doesn't care. While normal people won't do such things even if they can change their names after. Not to mention that it won't be free, not every youngster has a credit card you know. Of course there are some mature people that would still behave like kids and QQ over pixels, but that's rare. And even if you don't like the idea of name changing for all, then make it at least for those, who buy/transfer chars? It's 20 per transfer, right? add, say, 10 for name change - so we have total of 30$. Now how many scammers would pay 30 bucks after each scam just to have fresh start each time? c'mon, get real. If you are pro scammer, you probably make new accounts for that, it would be cheaper. If you are isk-seller, you probably have other means (more effective) to accumulate income. Just use common sence goddammit! Because people are scared of few idiots that would actually try to use this feature for some scams, many legit players, that ONLY want to change their xXx1rL0rDxXx or w/e else names into something pretty, have to suffer (and leave CCP without few extra bucks too)
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2010.05.18 07:47:00 - [277] Why support name changes for people with no time invested in the game that merely throw money at it to reap the benefit of someone elses commitment and not the other two scenarios? People buying characters are the least of my concerns. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Korpse Grinder	Posted - 2010.05.18 08:01:00 - [278] I f***ing love my name. I think im going to give myself a "Valklear" past, just for a bit of Roleplay... "Dubbed 'Korpse Grinder' for the grusome manner in which he committed his crimes..."
Sol Badguy	Posted - 2010.05.20 10:31:00 - [279] Im going to have to support this idea. I made my character back when I was either a freshman or junior in high school, and back then i thought this name was cool, and what have you. Now its 7 years later, and i kind of want to immerse myself in this game... but im finding it hard with a crappy name like the one ive got now. I would gladly pay a RL fee just to get it changed, and while other people are happy with their name, there are others out there that are unhappy with theirs and would love to have it changed.
Lubomir Penev interimo	Posted - 2010.05.27 11:19:00 - [280] See the unofficial (but risky) way to change name. -- 081014 : emoragequit, char transfered to a friend, 090317 : back to original owner blog
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings Nebula Rasa	Posted - 2010.06.07 12:39:00 - [281] I don't really want to go into supporting GM abuse in this thread. Work to change the system instead of exploiting the loopholes. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
RatKnight1 Gallente Mahdi Followers	Posted - 2010.06.07 15:14:00 - [282] Ok, first of all, No. I would rather see CCP fix some of the current bugs, then create a feature that will add dozens more. Also, if you want to reinvent yourself, go make an alt. Rat [url=http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=RatKnight1][/u
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings Nebula Rasa	Posted - 2010.06.08 10:31:00 - [283] Originally by: RatKnight1 Ok, first of all, No. I would rather see CCP fix some of the current bugs, then create a feature that will add dozens more. Also, if you want to reinvent yourself, go make an alt. Rat Yes bugs and lag has everything to do with this. I'm sure aliases will create a ton of problems, just as corporate history almost ruined the game, I could hardly play for a year after that mess was introduced. Go away trollbait1! Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings Nebula Rasa	Posted - 2010.06.25 01:12:00 - [284] Topside for great justice! Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings Nebula Rasa	Posted - 2010.07.07 14:46:00 - [285] Tired of your ripped fantasy name, want to give Drizzt2 a rest? Support the cause! Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Slayeraeb	Posted - 2010.07.20 10:52:00 - [286] Word
Antara Cross	Posted - 2010.07.25 23:30:00 - [287] /signed
Entity X-Factor Industries Synthetic Existence	Posted - 2010.07.26 01:51:00 - [288] I don't want to change my name but this is a good idea. _ Got Item? \| EVE API? \| Cache?
Verdun Pasquinel Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2010.08.03 22:50:00 - [289] Fearless leader make a good point.
Christophe Boisvert Gallente Merlin Reach	Posted - 2010.08.04 00:26:00 - [290] I'm just looking for a one time name change myself. I picked this because someone had said that the Gallente are descended from the French. But I'm tired of being asked "are you French?" I'm sure you can all agree my name is pretty lame. -- "Good ideas are not accepted automatically. They must be driven into practice with a courageous patience." -Adm Hymann G. Rickover
Aion Amarra Minmatar Real Nice And Laidback Corporation Black Core Alliance	Posted - 2010.08.07 03:58:00 - [291] You could put this in as an Assembly Hall proposal, you know. So we can thumbs-up it. :p Also, I'd like to see this, for obvious reasons. I just kinda see a ton of people wanting to use it to either make their names unpronouncable, or pick names beginning with letters that are in the middle of the alphabet.
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2010.08.09 11:25:00 - [292] Originally by: Aion Amarra You could put this in as an Assembly Hall proposal, you know. So we can thumbs-up it. :p Also, I'd like to see this, for obvious reasons. I just kinda see a ton of people wanting to use it to either make their names unpronouncable, or pick names beginning with letters that are in the middle of the alphabet. Someone else took the idea over there. I don't go there since I think it's a divide and neglect move on CCPs part, breaking up what should be one constructive input forum into two, one of which they can readily ignore with the new and 'improved' forum in place. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Timathai Populist Manufacturing and Exploration	Posted - 2010.08.09 15:56:00 - [293] Yet another thread on how to add more shine and tinkle? Why cant we spend some of this energy on pointing at balance issues, lag issues, and the like? I've seen no less than 20 well thought out and examined issues with game mechanics, some I agree with, some I dont. Can we , as a community, start to look at these please? Stop with random, pointless threads that add nothing to the functionality of the game. At least for the time being. That being said, I think that the name change idea is a good one, with, the addendum that they are limited to a 6 month hold between changes per character, and, each character has an assigned number that is never changed or removed, to maintain current game mechanics on bounty, standings, and contact lists. I would also like to see that the practice that CCP has of allowing characters that are created, deleted, or simply allowed to lag in to non-active status, keep names. After a period of inactivity, they shold become their number, opening up the name for availability to the active player base, and the incoming new players. When I created this character, it was due to frustration that I landed upon this name. I liked the name, and might only add a secondary name at this point, but, there were 22 different attempts before I found one that was available. Give a man a fish, and he has one good meal. Teach a man to fish and he has a way to **** off his wife every Sunday.
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2010.08.11 22:23:00 - [294] Originally by: Timathai Yet another thread on how to add more shine and tinkle? Why cant we spend some of this energy on pointing at balance issues, lag issues, and the like? I've seen no less than 20 well thought out and examined issues with game mechanics, some I agree with, some I dont. Can we , as a community, start to look at these please? Stop with random, pointless threads that add nothing to the functionality of the game. At least for the time being. That being said, I think that the name change idea is a good one, with, the addendum that they are limited to a 6 month hold between changes per character, and, each character has an assigned number that is never changed or removed, to maintain current game mechanics on bounty, standings, and contact lists. I would also like to see that the practice that CCP has of allowing characters that are created, deleted, or simply allowed to lag in to non-active status, keep names. After a period of inactivity, they shold become their number, opening up the name for availability to the active player base, and the incoming new players. When I created this character, it was due to frustration that I landed upon this name. I liked the name, and might only add a secondary name at this point, but, there were 22 different attempts before I found one that was available. This thread is older than you, respect your elders and realize not every concern is with balance. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2010.09.19 22:51:00 - [295] With Incarna there will be a whole lot of new things to look at, would you want all the fancy stuff cluttered by a subpar floating name? I hope to hell there won't be floating names but if there are... Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
SGT FUNYOUN Gallente	Posted - 2010.09.19 23:04:00 - [296] I support this idea. I would love to alter my name every now and again. I could really us this in game. Yargh. I be SGT Funyoun. King of the Pirates!!!
8ObliVioN8 Caldari InterGalactic Corp.	Posted - 2010.09.20 16:25:00 - [297] I think this is a great idea. I'd give my left one to get rid of those two eights either side of my name - not least because I'm often primary for those FC's who call targets alphabetically... Back in 2004 (omg!) I had no idea about a proper or decent character name for a game which a mate of mine encouraged me to try. I also had no idea I'd still be paying my subs some 6 year later. The only other regular payment I've had for longer is my mortgage... I'd happily pay a fee (ISK or rl cash) to make an amendment to my character name. That fee should also increase (by stupid amounts) for those who want to make further changes after the first change is made.
Epic Lulz	Posted - 2010.09.20 17:11:00 - [298] Ah I love this thread.
it440 Caldari OZ industries and Technology	Posted - 2010.09.21 10:30:00 - [299] i would really like to change my name as well, just look at it. didnt think id ever get hooked on the game and used my rl work section id code so i wouldnt forget it, big mistake! somebody could confuse me with IT alliance :( CCP supports this message. I think.
Joker2309 Caldari Cynical Cartel	Posted - 2010.11.15 18:34:00 - [300] /signed (for obvious reasons) The main advantage of bein intelligent is the ability to pretend stupidity
Verdun Pasquinel Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2010.12.07 01:04:00 - [301] Topside for great justice!
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2011.01.23 10:09:00 - [302] With the bastardization of character portraits and all the lost sense of self gone with it now is the time to add name changes. Two wrongs can make a right or at least you'll shed those you'd think desillusioned by your choices in one fell swoop.
Oen''Gus	Posted - 2011.02.28 11:27:00 - [303] +1, can't agree more.
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2011.04.04 14:35:00 - [304] Does anyone have CCPs arguments for not implementing this on hand? I'd like to see what they are, I mean accountability, that went out the window on day one with alts and someone then picked it up and flinged it further with character sales... Also Known As
EDISON CLONE	Posted - 2011.04.04 17:46:00 - [305] Great idea, have a little problem with the range of isk charges, would prefer it to be on the low side at first...aka 1/3m isk.
Kristina Vanszar Caldari	Posted - 2011.04.04 18:37:00 - [306] I'd just say, if you have got a stupid name like 'BATMAN1950' you should be allowed to change it into something more... eve realated.
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2011.04.05 23:44:00 - [307] Originally by: Kristina Vanszar I'd just say, if you have got a stupid name like 'BATMAN1950' you should be allowed to change it into something more... eve realated. Most names of main characters are stupid. It's a failsafe way to tell if someones an alt, if he has a good name that you think sounds very EVE it's not the guys main character... Also Known As
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2011.04.11 12:02:00 - [308] Since this topic covers a frontpage threads issues better I'll send it up. Also Known As
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2011.05.07 18:59:00 - [309] Can anyone confirm the name generator has made the game? I've got no alts left tp test on. Also Known As
Rodion Romanovich Raskolnikov	Posted - 2011.05.07 19:39:00 - [310] Originally by: Danton Marcellus Can anyone confirm the name generator has made the game? I've got no alts left tp test on. Yes, a name generator has been implemented.
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2011.05.07 19:52:00 - [311] Originally by: Rodion Romanovich Raskolnikov Originally by: Danton Marcellus Can anyone confirm the name generator has made the game? I've got no alts left tp test on. Yes, a name generator has been implemented. Praise the lords! It only took 8 years, now for aliases, here's to another 8. Also Known As
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2011.05.08 15:15:00 - [312] Ok so I found someone with a disposable alt and this generator was tried, first of all it was surnames only and there were only like what 30 of them? No doubt they could get some fan fiction submissions here for possible surnames to be scrutinized before implementing. I mean if they could let us degenerates name the drone regions... Nevermind, I see the gates of hell slightly ajar... Also Known As
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2011.05.09 13:36:00 - [313] Originally by: Kristina Vanszar I'd just say, if you have got a stupid name like 'BATMAN1950' you should be allowed to change it into something more... eve realated. Ironically there is an EVE agent called Batman. Also Known As
googoogajoob	Posted - 2011.05.09 21:14:00 - [314] If you were dumb enough to pick a stupid name, live with it.
The Ying	Posted - 2011.05.10 14:32:00 - [315] Originally by: googoogajoob If you were dumb enough to pick a stupid name, live with it. Thanks, you're a good exemple.
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2011.05.10 23:48:00 - [316] Originally by: googoogajoob If you were dumb enough to pick a stupid name, live with it. The idea of punishing the customer eternaly is a most excellent business idea, I wish to read your management book once it comes out! Also Known As
The Ying	Posted - 2011.05.11 17:08:00 - [317] Originally by: Danton Marcellus Originally by: googoogajoob If you were dumb enough to pick a stupid name, live with it. The idea of punishing the customer eternaly is a most excellent business idea, I wish to read your management book once it comes out! This

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