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Orree Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.03.29 22:23:00 - [481] Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr Christ its amazing how Axe and Corm have so quickly turned into BoB-Fanbois. It's warm and snuggly under BoB's skirts. Anyway...sounds like it was an epic lagfest and a crapload of hardware got destroyed on both sides. Let the silly posturing, chest-beating and spinning from both sides begin.
Hast Refused.	Posted - 2007.03.29 22:23:00 - [482] Originally by: Ruato So.. Summary basically is: BoB+allies couldnt defend their installation, even if they brought in everything they got. My point is not to smack BoB+allies, point is that now its proven BoB can be defeated (its gonna cost, but i doubt that came as a surprise to anyone) If i was in BoB leadership, i would find that kinda worrying. What you fail to realize is that with the numbers involved its impossible to defend a static object like a POS. Before you can chew through their dreadfleet they can kill the POS and the cap shipyard. The point is killing enough to making them think twice about doing it again. Also if the POS proves to be empty then what. You wasted alot of capital ships killing something everyone more or less knew was going down anyways. Blitzing POSes is nigh impossible to counter unless you somehow mange to stop them from getting there in the first place. And no, I dont believe its a flawed mechanic, since we have almost reached the point where dreads can instapop POSes. The question is if CCP thought it would go that far. And tbh, today 60bn isk isnt all that much, whats worse is the logistical pita of building it. ISK are more or less meaningless in this stage of the game. Originally by: omeega PICTURE TOO BIG, KGB INCOMING HAVE FUN.
ALPHA12125 Gallente 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.03.29 22:24:00 - [483] Originally by: Frygok Edited by: Frygok on 29/03/2007 22:19:34 Originally by: Zhaine Originally by: Frygok Yes, but if the Coalition is certain that they have killed of a titan, they won't believe a word BOB says about it being a decoy(and frankly, neither would I), so for them it will still be a morale victory. And morale victories are far more important than a number of dreads. That's why the speculation about the titan, in essence is irrelevant. No one from the coalition will believe if BOB stated that there were no titan in it. lol, but then surely it would be BoB's moral victory too. So no one would have won. But really you're saying it doesn't matter if there was a Titan there or not, which is just plainly silly to anyone with sense. I am not saying that it doesn't matter. I am saying that for the Coalition it is irrelevant whether there were a titan or not. Because for them, there -was- a titan in the shipyard, and for them it will just be another BOB spin if they claim there were no titan in there. It's about perception. Yes, BOB will certainly also have a morale victory, no doubt. But they won't convince the Coalition about their morale victory, thus tearing into BOB'S home and destroying a shipyard with a titan in it(whether or not it was actually there) will encourage to more attacks and to the fact that BOB can be beaten. Psychological warfare ftw. unless they show a levitan next week
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2007.03.29 22:25:00 - [484] Originally by: dirtystockbird Yeah, I think the real overall problem here is that nobody on either side had any fun. And thats exactly what people are supposed to be doing in this game. err.. you sure about that? Originally by: Eutectic, IRON dread pilot Well as someone who was there and lost a Moros, full insurance btw, all I can say is it was worth it to me and my mates. I had fun and in end Eve is a game to me and having fun is the point.
batloard Amarr The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.03.29 22:25:00 - [485] Originally by: Flinx Evenstar Originally by: Draxxxion To get a ton of kills while you guys shoot a POS,a pos I might add that only the coalition believes anything was in....since your propoganda guys started saying it had a Titan in it... Can I say that we picked up the Titan BPO that dropped from the POS or would that be propoganda. xplain
The Beatnuts Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.03.29 22:25:00 - [486] Originally by: Hast And tbh, today 60bn isk isnt all that much, whats worse is the logistical pita of building it. ISK are more or less meaningless in this stage of the game. Good night my love. /omee
Frygok Minmatar Black Lance NBSI Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.29 22:25:00 - [487] Edited by: Frygok on 29/03/2007 22:22:36 Originally by: Khensu Blade Originally by: Frygok Originally by: Admentus Cor'vion Originally by: Frygok Originally by: THEDON1 Edited by: THEDON1 on 29/03/2007 22:04:49 how do u know its the pos with a titan and not a fake cap pos ? Why would BOB and allies mobilize such massive defending fleets, if it was just a decoy? Using the whole what if is beside the point. I would have said good fight tonight, but I dunno if my ship is still trying to warp into a system(it has been for several hours), or I am podded back to a station. /sigh at CCP To get a lot of kills? Yes, but if the Coalition is certain that they have killed of a titan, they won't believe a word BOB says about it being a decoy(and frankly, neither would I), so for them it will still be a morale victory. And morale victories are far more important than a number of dreads. That's why the speculation about the titan, in essence is irrelevant. No one from the coalition will believe if BOB stated that there were no titan in it. Even if they unveiled a new titan or two in the next few weeks? That would probably just be explained by Devhelp (just kidding btw!) And honestly, I don't know enough about BOB'S industrial backbone to know whether or not they have 2 Titans in production or 1, so to know if a possible new titan within the next few weeks were the one the coalition did (not) shoot down, or it a completely different one, is difficult.
Xeliya Dark-Rising Fallen Souls	Posted - 2007.03.29 22:26:00 - [488] If AAA wasn't suppose to faction fit they didn't listen . . . Capital kills is over 43 and still climbing lol.
Enthes goldhart Gallente Resurrection R i s e	Posted - 2007.03.29 22:26:00 - [489] 50 hostile dreads down 0 lost though the post was destroyed and i missed the whole ******* thing due to lag..... please sort this out CCP I dont care if u guys coem in the system and stop people shooting till evryoen is loaded and then say go if it means we lag less and its a fair fight....
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.03.29 22:26:00 - [490] F-T local: Viceroy > i just spent 1 hour at the login screen Viceroy > i'm going to shoot whoever i see tbh. bob or non-bob - Vid - 'Killing Mother'

CHAOS100 Momentum. Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.03.29 22:27:00 - [491] Baby titan dead, tears are shed... mission accomplished end of story. --------------
The Beatnuts Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.03.29 22:28:00 - [492] Originally by: Xeliya If AAA wasn't suppose to faction fit they didn't listen . . . Capital kills is over 43 and still climbing lol. your eyes didn't manage to read ET's post a bit higher? /omee
Isonkon Serikain Gallente 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.03.29 22:29:00 - [493] Did anyone logoffski after the pos was shot down? Or did all parties stand and decided to fight to the death and put an end to this right there, like real men ?
Zhaine Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.03.29 22:29:00 - [494] Originally by: Frygok Edited by: Frygok on 29/03/2007 22:19:34 Originally by: Zhaine Originally by: Frygok Yes, but if the Coalition is certain that they have killed of a titan, they won't believe a word BOB says about it being a decoy(and frankly, neither would I), so for them it will still be a morale victory. And morale victories are far more important than a number of dreads. That's why the speculation about the titan, in essence is irrelevant. No one from the coalition will believe if BOB stated that there were no titan in it. lol, but then surely it would be BoB's moral victory too. So no one would have won. But really you're saying it doesn't matter if there was a Titan there or not, which is just plainly silly to anyone with sense. I am not saying that it doesn't matter. I am saying that for the Coalition it is irrelevant whether there were a titan or not. Because for them, there -was- a titan in the shipyard So coalition leaders could just as well have picked a random POS with a cap array in Delve and pwned it, and to the coaltion that's just the same as killing one with a titan in. Perhaps that's what happened :D :D I'm only joking btw not smacking you. This whole thing's got rather amusing by now :p - - - - - - - - - - Give this a read.
Frygok Minmatar Black Lance NBSI Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.29 22:32:00 - [495] Originally by: Zhaine Originally by: Frygok Edited by: Frygok on 29/03/2007 22:19:34 Originally by: Zhaine Originally by: Frygok Yes, but if the Coalition is certain that they have killed of a titan, they won't believe a word BOB says about it being a decoy(and frankly, neither would I), so for them it will still be a morale victory. And morale victories are far more important than a number of dreads. That's why the speculation about the titan, in essence is irrelevant. No one from the coalition will believe if BOB stated that there were no titan in it. lol, but then surely it would be BoB's moral victory too. So no one would have won. But really you're saying it doesn't matter if there was a Titan there or not, which is just plainly silly to anyone with sense. I am not saying that it doesn't matter. I am saying that for the Coalition it is irrelevant whether there were a titan or not. Because for them, there -was- a titan in the shipyard So coalition leaders could just as well have picked a random POS with a cap array in Delve and pwned it, and to the coaltion that's just the same as killing one with a titan in. Perhaps that's what happened :D :D I'm only joking btw not smacking you. This whole thing's got rather amusing by now :p Hey, it's np :) I bet it was a great fight, despite the lag. I wish I could have been present, but was stuck some jumps away. And well, I suppose that in theory they could have picked a random POS. One should not neglect the fact that they hit BOB's home, and hit it hard. They took heavy losses while doing it, but it sure has fired things up. If only the server could match the warcry of the players, it would be have been an awesome fight.
Jason Marshall Hammer Of Light	Posted - 2007.03.29 22:33:00 - [496] Im surprised no one has said it yet... Proof or stfu! i dont really care...to me a Baby titan died today. LETS SEE YOU NERF THIS ONE Kreul!!!... ...if that is your REAL name o_O Tacky lens flares in sigs 4tw!
Torshin TARDZ Gods of Night and Day	Posted - 2007.03.29 22:34:00 - [497] BOB killboard is starting to show kills, including some interesting fitted -A- dreads. Offical Tardz Poo-litical Anal-yst Backdoor Bandit - Unofficial leader of the new 'Post with your main or STFU' campaign.
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.03.29 22:35:00 - [498] Edited by: Seleene on 29/03/2007 22:31:20 Confirmed wrecks at the site of the battle where the POS was. More down in system. Amarr Dreadnought Wreck Tyrrax Thorrk Duke Rottingham Burzhuj Olath Sargtlin White Sorceress GodLight Badshah Caldari Dreadnought Wreck Jim Lovell d0omer Carlow Silmas Archangel Deck crusader77 Minmatar Dreadnought Wreck Voltaire Leriel Anthoni MIner ArchE Solene Solux SokolD TheSizzler Awalance Nolon3 Great Mogul Fred0 Terrorisma Gallente Carrier Wreck Pervis deux Shark 0mega Bjarg Gallente Dreadnought Wreck Sheron Cristal Kozak XaHyPuK Koldyr Eutectic Alexey MEP3OCTb Curtain Bestia Negra Barry Mcintosh Zeppeline Buddrow Legionar Ottar Ramius Lunas Feelgood Vinzenz - Vid - 'Killing Mother'
Isonkon Serikain Gallente 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.03.29 22:35:00 - [499] Originally by: Torshin Originally by: Isonkon Serikain Did anyone logoffski after the pos was shot down? Or did all parties stand and decided to fight to the death and put an end to this right there, like real men ? I believe that all the ships around the POS were bubbled up so they were unable to log I know for a fact that you are still saved from destruction if you log while bubbled... CCP hasn't managed to fixed it yet. I still lose kills in Catch that way.
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2007.03.29 22:35:00 - [500] Originally by: dirtystockbird Yay for you Nez, you pick out 1 guy in here that DID load and had fun from the several hundred that are complaining that they DIDN'T load, and that staring at a screen saying "jumping" was not the fun they were looking for. Would you like to me quote all of those people or do you think you can read for yourself? Well I don't know about your regular pilot in the fleets, but I'm pretty sure the leadership fully realised what kind of server conditions were going to be present in the assault. Even the most optimistic person, would concede that this battle was always going to be a lagfest. So what have you got left? The fun obtained from knowing that your fleet-mates achieved their objective. I think its safe to say the coalition achieved their objective. The real question is, what was BoB's objective? To defend the capital ship yard, or inflict as much damage as possible?

Enthes goldhart Gallente Resurrection R i s e	Posted - 2007.03.29 22:36:00 - [501] Team speak 40 wrecks at the pos and sevral more aroudn teh system it might be a bit less than 50 but its a nice number.
Esurnir Amarr Bears Inc FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.29 22:36:00 - [502] Originally by: Zhaine Originally by: Haulerinn Think of what 1300 people could have npced for instead of wasting there evening sitting stuck jumping in. QFT ---- Quote: Thou shall pew pew. Book of Revelation 12, 51
The Knight Gallente hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.03.29 22:37:00 - [503] Edited by: The Knight on 29/03/2007 22:33:35 Originally by: Mistah FAB I would post a photoshop of the Iraqi Information Minister saying "there was no titan here" but that is so old that I'm not going to. Oh yeah, ghost ride the titan~ No need for a photoshop, I grabbed a screen shot of the real thing! http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/0703/Iraqi_defence_minister.jpg
Torshin TARDZ Gods of Night and Day	Posted - 2007.03.29 22:37:00 - [504] Originally by: Isonkon Serikain Originally by: Torshin Originally by: Isonkon Serikain Did anyone logoffski after the pos was shot down? Or did all parties stand and decided to fight to the death and put an end to this right there, like real men ? I believe that all the ships around the POS were bubbled up so they were unable to log I know for a fact that you are still saved from destruction if you log while bubbled... CCP hasn't managed to fixed it yet. I still lose kills in Catch that way. I believe that is if you log off and quickly log onto a alt that is on the same account Offical Tardz Poo-litical Anal-yst Backdoor Bandit - Unofficial leader of the new 'Post with your main or STFU' campaign.
Buxaroo Black Dwarf	Posted - 2007.03.29 22:37:00 - [505] Originally by: Bon Ali For all of those asking how the coalition knew what was in the array, how about the big ******* timer, you morons? Well, a Titan and MS take the same amount of time to build. So if anything was being built, it could have been a MS as a decoy. Nontheless, you think this is going to bring morale down in BoB? You think that this spells certain Doom to BoB and allies? You guys don't know much about boxing do you . Roll with the punches and let the opponent wear himself out, then come in with gloves blazing. Oh, and heard so far that 60 coalition cap ships were lost....thats quite a price to pay for a supposed baby titan. And if anyone gets reimbursed for their ship losses, then CCP needs to pony up for LV's as well as anyone else who lost cap ships because of lag.
DirtyHarry Caldari Forsaken Empire The Forsaken Empire	Posted - 2007.03.29 22:38:00 - [506] Originally by: Seleene Edited by: Seleene on 29/03/2007 22:31:20 Confirmed wrecks at the site of the battle where the POS was. More down in system. Amarr Dreadnought Wreck Tyrrax Thorrk Duke Rottingham Burzhuj Olath Sargtlin White Sorceress GodLight Badshah Caldari Dreadnought Wreck Jim Lovell d0omer Carlow Silmas Archangel Deck crusader77 Minmatar Dreadnought Wreck Voltaire Leriel Anthoni MIner ArchE Solene Solux SokolD TheSizzler Awalance Nolon3 Great Mogul Fred0 Terrorisma Gallente Carrier Wreck Pervis deux Shark 0mega Bjarg Gallente Dreadnought Wreck Sheron Cristal Kozak XaHyPuK Koldyr Eutectic Alexey MEP3OCTb Curtain Bestia Negra Barry Mcintosh Zeppeline Buddrow Legionar Ottar Ramius Lunas Feelgood Vinzenz lunas lost a dread? couldnt have happened to a nicer guy. So any comments on MS/Titan/babyTitan loses? too much hearsay in this thread, so shed some light seleene Havocide - DirtyHarryF-E Homepage F-E Killboard
Adoro Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.03.29 22:40:00 - [507] Originally by: DirtyHarry Originally by: Seleene Edited by: Seleene on 29/03/2007 22:31:20 Confirmed wrecks at the site of the battle where the POS was. More down in system. Amarr Dreadnought Wreck Tyrrax Thorrk Duke Rottingham Burzhuj Olath Sargtlin White Sorceress GodLight Badshah Caldari Dreadnought Wreck Jim Lovell d0omer Carlow Silmas Archangel Deck crusader77 Minmatar Dreadnought Wreck Voltaire Leriel Anthoni MIner ArchE Solene Solux SokolD TheSizzler Awalance Nolon3 Great Mogul Fred0 Terrorisma Gallente Carrier Wreck Pervis deux Shark 0mega Bjarg Gallente Dreadnought Wreck Sheron Cristal Kozak XaHyPuK Koldyr Eutectic Alexey MEP3OCTb Curtain Bestia Negra Barry Mcintosh Zeppeline Buddrow Legionar Ottar Ramius Lunas Feelgood Vinzenz lunas lost a dread? couldnt have happened to a nicer guy. So any comments on MS/Titan/babyTitan loses? too much hearsay in this thread, so shed some light seleene Afaik only babytitan lost, no ms or other titan lost -------- Originally by: Lavinrac Krad You're either one of us or a Minmatar! What about Amarr? Bah, ha ha ha ha, Amarr, lol...
Armois Delgato FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.29 22:40:00 - [508] BoB's objective? I'd imagine to inflict as much pain as possible. Everyone knows that there is no way to take out a 100+ strong dread fleet before those dreads can destroy whatever they are shooting at... But, even if 100+ dreads cant be taken out before that, many dozens can be killed during and after the POS's last moments. I think the Greater Southwestern Co-Prosperity Sphere achieved what was needed this day. Pyrric Victory if victory at all for the coalition. A few more like this one and it will be their end.
Zhaine Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.03.29 22:41:00 - [509] Cheers for the post Seelene (sorry if that's wrong I get mixed up with all the "e"s) From now on can we talk about 40+ dread deaths, as that's now confirmed. - - - - - - - - - - Give this a read.
Cookie Snatcher Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2007.03.29 22:41:00 - [510] good joob BoB, can i come there to salvage? :D



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