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Dave White
The Kennels
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Posted - 2007.03.29 21:45:00 -
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Grats Coalition
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Kagura Nikon
Minmatar Guardians of the Dawn Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.03.29 21:45:00 -
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Titan worhts far more than same value in dreads. thaa because all alliances have dreads, but very few have titans. That means that 1 titan more or less tips the balance. Not to talk on the effect that a tripple DDD detonation would have.
Of course its an expensive Victory. But that is how real victories are!
If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough |
DARK DAY
Amarr Viziam
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Posted - 2007.03.29 21:45:00 -
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Kozak
Caldari The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.03.29 21:45:00 -
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Originally by: dirtystockbird Edited by: dirtystockbird on 29/03/2007 21:38:36 Meh, don't think the game was meant to be played like this, where you cannot even move, lock, load, jump etc. Just sit and stare at a screen for 2 hours doing nothing.
Oh and Boliknar, seriously, you are a complete retard. And CCP is still TIED for first mmmkay?
Oh, and Kozak, if that was petionable then all ships should be petitionable. And if thats the case then the POS should be replaced as well since you really have no risk of loss when lagging and engaging large scale fleets.
I dont' know about that. The POS shot plenty, so did the BOB gang. I didn't get a chance to do anything. I'd think anyone that fired ore even repped should not be reimbursed, but if I didn't even load, shoot, or had a chance to defend my ship, then I'd think I should get mine back. If the POS lagged and didn't shoot any capitals, and wasn't repped by the insane amount of carriers that were there, then reimburse it too.
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Mangus Thermopyle
Chosen Path Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.03.29 21:45:00 -
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I think its safe to say that we lost less isk than the atackers did (especially if you include the fitting on the killed capital ships), although the final result will have to wait until someone does a count on the killboards.
And I am sure that CCP wont reimburse anyone in this fight. Cause if they do, they have to reimburse everyone and that would include the pos as well.
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Butter Dog
The Littlest Hobos
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Posted - 2007.03.29 21:46:00 -
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Originally by: DeathGrip lets say only 25 dreads die, i am guessing more like 75. HOw much time it take to build them compared to the titan.
Well you can build 75 dreads at once in stations and freighter minerals to those stations. It not really comparable. Its not really an ISK thing.
the logistics of Titan construction are enough to make anyone feel ill - thats the real killer, the time you sink into it
Time is the biggest single cost in eve, and the most valuable commodity a player can give. ----------
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BobFromMarketing
Amarr H.Y.D.R.A. GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.03.29 21:46:00 -
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Why not? The perfect trap id say. I bet the pos didnt even contain anything worth mentioning.
So you're saying we should after your cap ship array in K-9 just to be sure?
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Sniperpirate
Minmatar Infinite Improbability Inc Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.29 21:46:00 -
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system capped off at 700
gm said no more ppl allowed...i know at least 400 more ppl trying to get in ---------------------
Memer Of The Xetic Alliance/Immensea Federation
The Good Ol Days ^^
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Ace Frehley
Minmatar Black Lance NBSI Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.29 21:46:00 -
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I wasent there, but why try count in iskis.... Both will claim victory if it now was a titan inside. Bob side will claim we wtfpwn dreads like mad, otherside we wtfpwn a titan and insured our dreads and used crappy fitting so we get everuthing back etc etc.... Now if ccp just can fix those servers...
Girljerms is more lethal then a fleet of 1000 Tempests Yeah I¦m nude, I¦m a swede and I¦m armed with bad jokes |
Angor
Minmatar The JORG Corporation FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.29 21:46:00 -
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Thats it, i officially hate this game. absolute pathetic and im not even a in the thick of it. on a gate camp a few jumps out. i actually feel guilty for the half of dozen hostiles we did kill as im sure they knew nothing about it. eve is seriously not going to survive this and grow as a game if this is all its going to be about. if more people are to sign up to this game and find this kind of rubbish happening then whats the point... i really want the last 2 hrs of my life back as that was a joke. complete dissapointment, not fun at all... i cant believe i feel like this and i didnt even loose my ship... i would have laughed if someone locked me because it would have meant i could see them... "OMG A TARGET!!!" so peeved off... how many so called "battles" like this does this game have to have before everybody gives up on it?
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Raivi
Explosion Matrix
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Posted - 2007.03.29 21:46:00 -
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Originally by: DeathGrip lets say only 25 dreads die, i am guessing more like 75. HOw much time it take to build them compared to the titan.
Since you can build hundreds of dreadnoughts simultaneously in low sec systems and buy them from independent producers, it doesn't take a long time at all. It does, however, cost a crapload of isk.
Explosion Matrix: Nostrum Nomen est Ridiculum |
CRUSH3R
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.03.29 21:46:00 -
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Originally by: DeathGrip lets say only 25 dreads die, i am guessing more like 75. HOw much time it take to build them compared to the titan.
we had less then 20 dreads who could jump to POS :\ so the losses are not very big.
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matty01
Killson Corp Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.03.29 21:47:00 -
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Originally by: Fuujin Regardless of losses (to which i myself am not aware of) i think the greater victory is the moral one.
and the fact that they killed a titan in production, rather than letting it live and having it be unkillable basically
win/win eh __________________________
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Laboratus
Gallente BGG Alektorophobia
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Posted - 2007.03.29 21:47:00 -
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Originally by: Seleene
Originally by: DeWieKat
Originally by: Seleene POS is down. Cap array is dead.
MANY Coalition dreads down. Chances are every Coalition Cap left here is going to die.
no way
Maybe not all.. but quite a few. No matter what was in that Array, this was an expensive 'victory'.
It depends on objectives and the preset acceptable casualities. If the coalition objective was "get it down at all costs" if it goes down, they acchieved their objectives and may claim "victory". If the Bob and bandwagon objective was "make them bleed" they succeeded in it beyond all expectations.
If the parties involved had other objectives, both may call it a lost fight. Depends really. Factions are so big economical loses are kinda. Replecable. ___ P.S. Post with your main. Mind control and tin hats |
DARK DAY
Amarr Viziam
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Posted - 2007.03.29 21:47:00 -
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NUKUNNI TRADING
Amarr Antares Frontier The Fifth Race
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Posted - 2007.03.29 21:47:00 -
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Melissa Mao
Fires of Time
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Posted - 2007.03.29 21:47:00 -
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Originally by: Fuujin Regardless of losses (to which i myself am not aware of) i think the greater victory is the moral one.
So you are saying that it gives you a moral high to know that with thousands of ships and 100+ dreads you are able to take down a BOB pos, while losing a ton of that in the process?
Well :) To each his own :)
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Xeliya
Dark-Rising Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.03.29 21:48:00 -
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Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: DeathGrip lets say only 25 dreads die, i am guessing more like 75. HOw much time it take to build them compared to the titan.
Well you can build 75 dreads at once in stations and freighter minerals to those stations. It not really comparable. Its not really an ISK thing.
the logistics of Titan construction are enough to make anyone feel ill - thats the real killer, the time you sink into it
Time is the biggest single cost in eve, and the most valuable commodity a player can give.
70 dreads is worse on logistics, you can unload freighters at POS's if you use cans . . .
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Electric Cucumber
Amarr Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.29 21:48:00 -
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Originally by: DeathGrip lets say only 25 dreads die, i am guessing more like 75. HOw much time it take to build them compared to the titan.
the dreads don't all belong to the same alliance...
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Kyguard
Fire Mandrill Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.29 21:50:00 -
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Originally by: Electric Cucumber
Originally by: DeathGrip lets say only 25 dreads die, i am guessing more like 75. HOw much time it take to build them compared to the titan.
the dreads don't all belong to the same alliance...
Was gonna write this -
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Daves Ibis
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Posted - 2007.03.29 21:50:00 -
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My Li
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Posted - 2007.03.29 21:51:00 -
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Lasakywa
Caldari Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.03.29 21:51:00 -
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25 dreads down.. Not 75.
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Wylker
Caldari Pyrrhus Sicarii
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Posted - 2007.03.29 21:51:00 -
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Wait till they find out the Array was empty.
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Fred0
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.29 21:51:00 -
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Originally by: DeathGrip lets say only 25 dreads die, i am guessing more like 75. HOw much time it take to build them compared to the titan.
10days? All dreads take that time I think...
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Skoot
Gallente La Stere Guinea Pigs
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Posted - 2007.03.29 21:51:00 -
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If the coalition will keep it this way , they will end up claiming that killing a bob shuttle worth losing 10 battleships .
So lets all give the a moral burst .. YOU GUYS ROCK !!!@!!@! ... or not :P
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prsr
Gallente JuBa Corp Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.03.29 21:51:00 -
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It doesn't look like this is a type of "victory" that is sustainable for the agressors to me. Let's wait and see what the killboards make of it. -- .sig apathy ftw |
Zhaine
Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.03.29 21:51:00 -
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Originally by: Flinx Evenstar
CCP...this was awful performance, really bad, half our fleet could not get near the system...but we still killed the POS
You wern't any better off than us mate. . . - - - - - - - - - -
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Fubear
Vogon Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2007.03.29 21:51:00 -
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Edited by: Fubear on 29/03/2007 21:51:47 The big differance here is that 50 Dreads are easily replaceable, a Titan is not.
Between the various alliances involved, I would expect all Dread losses to be replaced within the week with the various industrial corps working on replenishing depleted stockpiles. BoB have to wait months for the replacement Dread. The damage anothe BoB Titan would ultimately inflict after construction has to be taken into account as well.
I think it is a definate victory for the Coalition, even if the ISK values fall out of favor for the battle itself. Hats off to them for having the balls to commit to the fight, knowing that it was most likely suicide for the entire dread fleet because lag (apparently) made them warp/jump in in dribs and drabs.
EDIT: Forgot to ask, what roles did the Titans play in thie fisaco, how many were in play and how did they affect the support fleets role in the battles?
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Phrixus Zephyr
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.03.29 21:52:00 -
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Originally by: Fred0
Originally by: DeathGrip lets say only 25 dreads die, i am guessing more like 75. HOw much time it take to build them compared to the titan.
10days? All dreads take that time I think...
I think in his head all the capships are going to made from the 1 pos, and not several POS and Stations....
Let him dream.
Originally by: Benglada And whos going to tackle for them? Jesus?
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