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Seleene
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.03.29 22:42:00 -
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Originally by: DirtyHarry So any comments on MS/Titan/babyTitan loses? too much hearsay in this thread, so shed some light seleene
Not my place to say. TBH, no matter what anyone says, people will believe as they wish. 
I was just happy to be present for the biggest battle in EVE history. I actually saw things move for the first 30 mins! 
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Jinnigan
Minmatar Merch Industrial We Are Nice Guys
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Posted - 2007.03.29 22:42:00 -
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Originally by: Armois Delgato BoB's objective? I'd imagine to inflict as much pain as possible. Everyone knows that there is no way to take out a 100+ strong dread fleet before those dreads can destroy whatever they are shooting at...
But, even if 100+ dreads cant be taken out before that, many dozens can be killed during and after the POS's last moments.
I think the Greater Southwestern Co-Prosperity Sphere achieved what was needed this day.
Pyrric Victory if victory at all for the coalition. A few more like this one and it will be their end.
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Red Crown
Kudzu Collective
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Posted - 2007.03.29 22:42:00 -
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If I've learned anything, its that ISK doesn't matter too much to the coalition. Give it time, and those dreads will be back in your systems. With a few more.
As for a fetus kill? I'm skeptical but hopeful. "EVE is the worst MMORPG. Except for all the other ones."
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Kaeten
Hybrid Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.03.29 22:42:00 -
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Why would BoB defend agaisnt such a fleet unless...
1) They actully had a titan...
2) They knew they were gonig to win...
Pick one.
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Fuujin
hirr Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.03.29 22:43:00 -
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I wish bob would come on here and post that they were building shuttle in there. 
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Zhaine
Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.03.29 22:43:00 -
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Originally by: Seleene
Originally by: DirtyHarry So any comments on MS/Titan/babyTitan loses? too much hearsay in this thread, so shed some light seleene
Not my place to say. TBH, no matter what anyone says, people will believe as they wish. 
I was just happy to be present for the biggest battle in EVE history. I actually saw things move for the first 30 mins! 
You can comment on any of the rumoured "in space" losees. As in actual ships what died. BoB friendly cap losses were. . .? - - - - - - - - - -
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Troubadour
Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.03.29 22:43:00 -
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how does the coalition know there was even a titan building there?
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Admentus Cor'vion
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.03.29 22:44:00 -
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Originally by: Flinx Evenstar
Originally by: Draxxxion
To get a ton of kills while you guys shoot a POS,a pos I might add that only the coalition believes anything was in....since your propoganda guys started saying it had a Titan in it...
Can I say that we picked up the Titan BPO that dropped from the POS or would that be propoganda. 
You could get wrecks to display loot?
HAX!
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Dahin
Maza Nostra RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.29 22:44:00 -
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Originally by: Troubadour Edited by: Troubadour on 29/03/2007 21:55:16
It's a pyrrhic victory for the coalition at best. They may not take as much damage ISK-wise as BoB and the allies during this battle, but they aren't in a position to replace those losses as quick nor do they have as much in reserve as BoB and friends.
Losing a titan hurts for bob, but not at much as losing 25+ dreads/carriers for the coalition.
Also, at about 3 bil to buy and fit a dread, losing 25 of them is 75bil, as much as the cost of a titan.

You have a very high opinion on the bob+friends, especially when they're into their biggest fight after 3+ months of fighting constantly.
As for the coalition, I don't know much about the rest, but looking at the corpwallet, my 50-man corporation can replace solo by purchasing dreads off the insane market prices in the amount of: 2.5b a dread 300m t2 fittings 450m insurance -------------- 3.750m in total - 1.75 insurance -------------- 2bil each
Right about now, cashflow says we can replace TOMMOROW about 50 dreads of that type. Alliance-production dreads/fittings pretty much cuts cost down to 25+% (because insurance stays the same) and that amounts to 60+ of those babies.
Many people were preparing for this war, and at least we were isk-prepared.
And as for the picture in the grand scale, we prolly lost 1 or two dreads tonight (because we fielded like 3). Now compare this to the rest of the people in all those alliances all people call "carebears" (and they are mostly right) and you will understand what 20-30 dreads means down for em. On average, each corporation lost like 1 dread...
Now consider my corp uber-rich, and say the rest are like 50% as rich as we are. That means they can replace tommorow 30 dreads each and they lost on average 1.
Sure, that is a reserve and such losses cannot be sustained on a daily basis, but neither can bob put a titan in production every single day.
Now I will not even start to speculate what RA and rest can replace... (sweet jesus lay off my plex will ya? :P)
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Algey
The Littlest Hobos
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Posted - 2007.03.29 22:44:00 -
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Originally by: Kaeten Why would BoB defend agaisnt such a fleet unless...
1) They actully had a titan...
2) They knew they were gonig to win...
Pick one.
To kill a huge number of cap ships, weakening their enemies for assaults over the next few days prehaps...
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CRUSH3R
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.03.29 22:44:00 -
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If our support fleet managed to reach ft-e it was a very different fight.... I wish one day we will be able do play large-scale fleet battles but today it's nearly impossible :\
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Torshin
TARDZ Gods of Night and Day
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Posted - 2007.03.29 22:45:00 -
[522]
Originally by: Kaeten Why would BoB defend agaisnt such a fleet unless...
1) They actully had a titan...
2) They knew they were gonig to win...
Pick one.
if they didn't lose a titan and only lost a pos i think killing 40+ dreads is a win
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Sasha Petrov
Caldari Convergent Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.03.29 22:45:00 -
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I'm glad i'm not the eve petition guy today, he'll be working overtime.
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Kaeten
Hybrid Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.03.29 22:45:00 -
[524]
Originally by: Troubadour how does the coalition know there was even a titan building there?
Same as how everybody knows everything... Spies...
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Buxaroo
Black Dwarf
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Posted - 2007.03.29 22:45:00 -
[525]
update: someone linked me a picture: Cap Ship display if there ever was one
Damn.....thats a lot of cap ships.
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Torshin
TARDZ Gods of Night and Day
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Posted - 2007.03.29 22:47:00 -
[526]
Originally by: CRUSH3R If our support fleet managed to reach ft-e it was a very different fight.... I wish one day we will be able do play large-scale fleet battles but today it's nearly impossible :\
thats your problem they went to the wrong system, its f-te
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Frygok
Minmatar Black Lance NBSI Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.29 22:47:00 -
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Originally by: Algey
Originally by: Kaeten Why would BoB defend agaisnt such a fleet unless...
1) They actully had a titan...
2) They knew they were gonig to win...
Pick one.
To kill a huge number of cap ships, weakening their enemies for assaults over the next few days prehaps...
Well, so far they haven't done much to attack those alliances they laughed at, like D2, Goons... Some of the comments that have been made about said alliances makes one wonder why BOB is only defending, not attacking?
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dirtystockbird
The Nine Gates Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2007.03.29 22:48:00 -
[528]
Originally by: Nez Perces
Originally by: dirtystockbird
Yay for you Nez, you pick out 1 guy in here that DID load and had fun from the several hundred that are complaining that they DIDN'T load, and that staring at a screen saying "jumping" was not the fun they were looking for. 
Would you like to me quote all of those people or do you think you can read for yourself?
Well I don't know about your regular pilot in the fleets, but I'm pretty sure the leadership fully realised what kind of server conditions were going to be present in the assault.
Even the most optimistic person, would concede that this battle was always going to be a lagfest.
So what have you got left?
The fun obtained from knowing that your fleet-mates achieved their objective. I think its safe to say the coalition achieved their objective.
The real question is, what was BoB's objective?
To defend the capital ship yard, or inflict as much damage as possible?
How do you go from talking about that many people were complaining about the fact that this engagment was not fun, was not what people would want out of their eve gameplay, to talking about objectives between alliances?? Do you have ADD or something? Stay on point ffs.
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Dahin
Maza Nostra RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.29 22:49:00 -
[529]
Originally by: Seleene Edited by: Seleene on 29/03/2007 22:31:20
Confirmed wrecks at the site of the battle where the POS was. More down in system.
Amarr Dreadnought Wreck
Tyrrax Thorrk Duke Rottingham Burzhuj Olath Sargtlin White Sorceress GodLight Badshah
Caldari Dreadnought Wreck
Jim Lovell d0omer Carlow Silmas Archangel Deck crusader77
Minmatar Dreadnought Wreck
Voltaire Leriel Anthoni MIner ArchE Solene Solux SokolD TheSizzler Awalance Nolon3 Great Mogul Fred0 Terrorisma
Gallente Carrier Wreck
Pervis deux Shark 0mega Bjarg
Gallente Dreadnought Wreck
Sheron Cristal Kozak XaHyPuK Koldyr Eutectic Alexey MEP3OCTb Curtain Bestia Negra Barry Mcintosh Zeppeline Buddrow Legionar Ottar Ramius Lunas Feelgood Vinzenz
To my knowledge lunas survived the battle and logged off in a mid-sol after trying to jump to a station for 30 mins. At least that's what he was saying while trying to get the cyno out untill he said "ah **** that I logged".
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Zhaine
Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.03.29 22:49:00 -
[530]
Originally by: CRUSH3R If our support fleet managed to reach ft-e it was a very different fight.... I wish one day we will be able do play large-scale fleet battles but today it's nearly impossible :\
Well neither LV support nor the AXE/PANIC/CRII/XS/Fountain gang reached F-T or whatever the sys is. - - - - - - - - - -
Give this a read. |
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laotse
shangdi
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Posted - 2007.03.29 22:49:00 -
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seleene didnt you belong to a neutral mercenary group  80.126.192.128:8888/tfd/uploads/1121735338/gallery_11_8_1124480365.jpg
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Womble God
Gallente Thw Womblers
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Posted - 2007.03.29 22:50:00 -
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Why are people sitting here posting that there is the potential there was no titan being built? Do you guys actually believe that or just saying it for arguments sake. Bob has admitted a titan was being built there, and notice no one in an actual top position in the BOB and Allies has denied it here. A titan was destroyed, but at the cost of over 50 dreads. The real argument should be over is 50 dreads worth more than a titan?
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Posted - 2007.03.29 22:50:00 -
[533]
Originally by: Malachon Draco On the subject of reimbursement. POSses never suffer from lag, therefore reimbursement due to lag is not relevant. Ships do suffer from lag. And thus reimbursement can be warranted.
Combat actions around the POS ARE affected by lag though, such as the support ships trying to login and boost the shields and armor of a POS.
The POS's actions are unaffected, but you're naive to think that a POS would be in the same situation if players had no lag at all.
Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
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Ituralde
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.03.29 22:51:00 -
[534]
My only question is...
If its so easy to replace that many dreads, why didn't you risk them beforehand? _____________________________ Fear is the mind-killer.
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Fuglife
Huff Technologies
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Posted - 2007.03.29 22:52:00 -
[535]
So, one baby titan destroyed and another titan unveiled... welsh wizards (3rd best pvper in eve history) leviathan
Amazing
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Fuujin
hirr Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.03.29 22:52:00 -
[536]
Originally by: Womble God Why are people sitting here posting that there is the potential there was no titan being built? Do you guys actually believe that or just saying it for arguments sake. Bob has admitted a titan was being built there, and notice no one in an actual top position in the BOB and Allies has denied it here. A titan was destroyed, but at the cost of over 50 dreads. The real argument should be over is 50 dreads worth more than a titan?
That argument ended a few pages back.
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CRUSH3R
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.03.29 22:52:00 -
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Originally by: Womble God Why are people sitting here posting that there is the potential there was no titan being built? Do you guys actually believe that or just saying it for arguments sake. Bob has admitted a titan was being built there, and notice no one in an actual top position in the BOB and Allies has denied it here. A titan was destroyed, but at the cost of over 50 dreads. The real argument should be over is 50 dreads worth more than a titan?
the matter is not in the cost of losses, it was a nice challenge to both sides. We have only 1 order - kill the POS regardless any losses - and we did it.
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Admiral Pieg
Confederation of Red Moon Red Moon Federation
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Posted - 2007.03.29 22:52:00 -
[538]
Originally by: Troubadour how does the coalition know there was even a titan building there?
They dont.  ______________
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Vardemis
Confederation of Red Moon Red Moon Federation
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Posted - 2007.03.29 22:53:00 -
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Originally by: laotse seleene didnt you belong to a neutral mercenary group 
Well, being neutral as a merc would mean you are unemplyed, they are employed. I would find it rather bad business practise not to fight for their employer, don't you think?
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Agent2 Holtze
Amarr Caldari Scouting and Intel Group
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Posted - 2007.03.29 22:53:00 -
[540]
Originally by: Womble God Why are people sitting here posting that there is the potential there was no titan being built? Do you guys actually believe that or just saying it for arguments sake. Bob has admitted a titan was being built there, and notice no one in an actual top position in the BOB and Allies has denied it here. A titan was destroyed, but at the cost of over 50 dreads. The real argument should be over is 50 dreads worth more than a titan?
Yes, it are worth it.
It's a huge morale booster for the coalition and a beating for the bob girlies.
And besides, the cash flow in the coalition is so big that they can resupply them self with dreads so fast that it's not really that important.
Shame the support didn't get in :(
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