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Jasmine Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.05.15 14:34:00 -
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Originally by: Rodj Blake
Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
Originally by: Rodj Blake I fail to see what's embarrassing about Archbishop pointing out your jealousy. It's a fair comment if you ask me.
In the context of his response it reveals his inferiority complex.
Perhaps you'd care to list the achievements of SF then, so that neutrals may see just how inferior PIE is?
I'm still waiting from an answer from you. Is PIE relevant to the Empire ... yes or no? (keep wriggling by all means but people are going to start wondering why it is soooo difficult for you to answer that question sooner or later I think)
Star Fraction is recruiting
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.15 14:36:00 -
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Edited by: Rodj Blake on 15/05/2007 14:35:45 Edited by: Rodj Blake on 15/05/2007 14:34:36
Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
Originally by: Rodj Blake
Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
Originally by: Rodj Blake I fail to see what's embarrassing about Archbishop pointing out your jealousy. It's a fair comment if you ask me.
In the context of his response it reveals his inferiority complex.
Perhaps you'd care to list the achievements of SF then, so that neutrals may see just how inferior PIE is?
I'm still waiting from an answer from you. Is PIE relevant to the Empire ... yes or no? (keep wriggling by all means but people are going to start wondering why it is soooo difficult for you to answer that question sooner or later I think)
I've never been one to blow my own trumpet, which is why I answered in the way I did.
It's not a case of are we relevant or not, but rather the degree of our relevance and I think that my earlier answer makes clear the level of our relevance to the Empire.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori. |

Jasmine Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.05.15 14:39:00 -
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Originally by: Rodj Blake It's not a case of are we relevant or not, but rather the degree of our relevance and I think that my earlier answer makes clear the level of our relevance to the Empire.
It doesn't actually. I've asked a simple question with a Yes / No answer and so far you've evaded, wriggled, pontificated and done absolutely everything to avoid answering the question.
Why does this question scare you so much?
Star Fraction is recruiting
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Tomahawk Bliss
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.05.15 14:43:00 -
[64]
Edited by: Tomahawk Bliss on 15/05/2007 14:42:31
this is just one snap shot mind, I have many but there are rules about posting more than one image.
make a dent in that or shut up.
Gogo Yubari> You can't destroy your enemy with the power of thought alone like many forum-warriors seem to think. GLBTA Channel |

Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.15 14:46:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
Originally by: Rodj Blake It's not a case of are we relevant or not, but rather the degree of our relevance and I think that my earlier answer makes clear the level of our relevance to the Empire.
It doesn't actually. I've asked a simple question with a Yes / No answer and so far you've evaded, wriggled, pontificated and done absolutely everything to avoid answering the question.
Why does this question scare you so much?
I refer you my earlier answer.
I think that the good people of the cluster will be able to decide upon our relevance without a simplistic yes/no response. I accept that SF members may have some difficulty thinking in anything other than black/white terms and I'm sure that such a distinction is possible in Jasmineland, but unfortunately that's not the way the real world works.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori. |

Axen Vormar
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.05.15 14:49:00 -
[66]
Edited by: Axen Vormar on 15/05/2007 14:47:34 Quite a heated debate, I have to admit.
*chuckles*
The Empire is not as great as you might remember it from your legends, there is no Emperor, insane Heirs rising and a strong opposition to the reclaiming from the "outside".
The capsule pilots will determine the future, not the Empires that exist and certainly not the ones who support them. Well, we will make sure of the latter atleast.
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Cirale
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.05.15 14:56:00 -
[67]
Originally by: Rodj Blake Edited by: Rodj Blake on 15/05/2007 14:28:28
Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
Originally by: Rodj Blake Whenever the Empire has asked us to be relevant, we have been so.
Is PIE relevant to the Empire? ... yes or no
It isn't for me to give a definitive answer to that question, particularly as there are often degrees of relevance.
Instead of giving you a yes/no answer, I'll give some samples of the ways in which we have served the Empire, and then the good people of the cluster will be able to decide for themselves just how relevant we are.
* We escorted an Imperial Apocalypse home to Amarr.
* Our sermons and speeches have reached the farthest corners of the Empire and beyond.
* We have pacified low security areas of the Empire and received recognition for our actions.
* We have escorted dangerous prisoners on behalf of the Empire.
* We have helped the Speakers of Truth.
Now, if these events had any impact on the Empire, then it follows that we have some relevance.
Perhaps you would care to list some of SF's achievements so that we may judge your relevance?
I find your whole corp irrelant, Rodj. Screw all your BS and quoting and blah blah blah.
Infact I just accepted a duel VS one of your fresh recruits. I had no Battlecruiser class ship to match his, but I accepted the challenge a cruiser.
The outcome was obvious, and are viewable on our public records (which you cowards do not choose to display or share, perhaps wisely)
I felt pity for this young pilot, yet also admiration. He came to Amarr, with the sole purpose of engaging me, and displayed such honor and courage that I dare say NOBODY in your ranks possess. He even had skillbooks in his hold. I ofcourse advised him after the demise of ship to seek more appropriate company.
It is too bad that PIE turned out to be such a Toothless tiger, all bark and no bite. You can say that we havent hurt you all day, but the reality is, have you hurt us? We have declared war on you, and it seems truly a waste of ISK.
How sad, you really have no base to stand on, you bunch of spineless worms, I honestly pity you as you were presented with a real challenge and utterly failed to match the Free Captians of the Star Fraction in space.
Maybe one day you will be respected again, as for now, in the opinion of this pod pilot, you guys suck.
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Jasmine Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.05.15 15:00:00 -
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Originally by: Rodj Blake I think that the good people of the cluster will be able to decide upon our relevance without a simplistic yes/no response. I accept that SF members may have some difficulty thinking in anything other than black/white terms and I'm sure that such a distinction is possible in Jasmineland, but unfortunately that's not the way the real world works.
The reason you can't answer Yes / No rodj is quite obvious I'm afraid. What you want to say is "Yes (we are relevant when winning) but No (we are no relevant when losing)" but you can't have it both ways. Either you are relevant to the Amarrian Empire or you are not. You can't be revelant sometimes but not others. You can't have it both ways. So which is it. Is PIE relevant to the Amarrian Empire or not?
Star Fraction is recruiting
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.15 15:01:00 -
[69]
Originally by: Cirale
I find your whole corp irrelant, Rodj.
You find us so irrelevant that you choose to belong to an alliance that has declared war on us.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori. |

Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.15 15:03:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
Originally by: Rodj Blake I think that the good people of the cluster will be able to decide upon our relevance without a simplistic yes/no response. I accept that SF members may have some difficulty thinking in anything other than black/white terms and I'm sure that such a distinction is possible in Jasmineland, but unfortunately that's not the way the real world works.
The reason you can't answer Yes / No rodj is quite obvious I'm afraid. What you want to say is "Yes (we are relevant when winning) but No (we are no relevant when losing)" but you can't have it both ways. Either you are relevant to the Amarrian Empire or you are not. You can't be revelant sometimes but not others. You can't have it both ways. So which is it. Is PIE relevant to the Amarrian Empire or not?
I really don't see the point to your question.
After all, it's clear that you consider us to be relevant, otherwise you wouldn't have declared war on us and used so many words on us.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori. |
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Casserina Leshrac
Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik
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Posted - 2007.05.15 15:06:00 -
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Originally by: Rodj Blake Edited by: Rodj Blake on 15/05/2007 14:51:48
Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
Originally by: Rodj Blake It's not a case of are we relevant or not, but rather the degree of our relevance and I think that my earlier answer makes clear the level of our relevance to the Empire.
It doesn't actually. I've asked a simple question with a Yes / No answer and so far you've evaded, wriggled, pontificated and done absolutely everything to avoid answering the question.
Why does this question scare you so much?
I refer you to my earlier answer.
I think that the good people of the cluster will be able to decide upon our relevance without a simplistic yes/no response. I accept that SF members may have some difficulty thinking in anything other than black/white terms and I'm sure that such a distinction is possible in Jasmineland, but unfortunately that's not the way the real world works.
No it's time you've left Rodjland and return to the real world. PIE has become as stagnant as the Empire it supports and therefore, irrelevant as a corp.
Casserina Sani Sabik Illuminati From the Darkness I sow the seeds of Chaos. |

Sapphrine
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.05.15 15:08:00 -
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Originally by: Rodj Blake Edited by: Rodj Blake on 15/05/2007 12:21:31 Edited by: Rodj Blake on 15/05/2007 12:12:25 Having said that though, we do take the threat from U'K and their new Ev0ke overlords very seriously indeed and will most likely be continuing combat operations against them for some time.
I should ask for these memo's about the changes in leadership structure... you'd think someone would let a fleet admiral know if we were ceding control of the fleet to another organisation.... I'll look for your ship on the battlefield and if you do feel like bringing out something larger than a BS we'll be sure to give you a warm reception :) Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected]) |

Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.15 15:09:00 -
[73]
Originally by: Casserina Leshrac
Originally by: Rodj Blake Edited by: Rodj Blake on 15/05/2007 14:51:48
Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
Originally by: Rodj Blake It's not a case of are we relevant or not, but rather the degree of our relevance and I think that my earlier answer makes clear the level of our relevance to the Empire.
It doesn't actually. I've asked a simple question with a Yes / No answer and so far you've evaded, wriggled, pontificated and done absolutely everything to avoid answering the question.
Why does this question scare you so much?
I refer you to my earlier answer.
I think that the good people of the cluster will be able to decide upon our relevance without a simplistic yes/no response. I accept that SF members may have some difficulty thinking in anything other than black/white terms and I'm sure that such a distinction is possible in Jasmineland, but unfortunately that's not the way the real world works.
No it's time you've left Rodjland and return to the real world. PIE has become as stagnant as the Empire it supports and therefore, irrelevant as a corp.
Perhaps you'd care to list Bloodveil's achievements (the non-made up ones) then?
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori. |

Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.15 15:09:00 -
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Originally by: Sapphrine
Originally by: Rodj Blake Edited by: Rodj Blake on 15/05/2007 12:21:31 Edited by: Rodj Blake on 15/05/2007 12:12:25 Having said that though, we do take the threat from U'K and their new Ev0ke overlords very seriously indeed and will most likely be continuing combat operations against them for some time.
I should ask for these memo's about the changes in leadership structure... you'd think someone would let a fleet admiral know if we were ceding control of the fleet to another organisation.... I'll look for your ship on the battlefield and if you do feel like bringing out something larger than a BS we'll be sure to give you a warm reception :)
I refer you to Tomahawk Bliss' picture above.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori. |

Sapphrine
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.05.15 15:20:00 -
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Originally by: Tomahawk Bliss Edited by: Tomahawk Bliss on 15/05/2007 14:42:31
this is just one snap shot mind, I have many but there are rules about posting more than one image.
make a dent in that or shut up.
Whilst I appreciate that you are in fact targetting solely SF with the request to kill your capital ships I do have to ask.... What makes you think any of those ships are safe given the substantial number of them that have recently become burning wrecks around 9uy?
It is a shame your presence in space is so small in comparison to your caterwauling on these boards. Possibly spend more time in the pod fighting?
Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected]) |

Jasmine Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.05.15 15:27:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Rodj Blake I really don't see the point to your question. After all, it's clear that you consider us to be relevant, otherwise you wouldn't have declared war on us and used so many words on us.
If you don't see the point of it what do you lose by answering it? Its a simple question. Do you consider PIE Inc. Is relevant to the Amarrian Empire? Why are you terrified to answer this?
Star Fraction is recruiting
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.15 15:34:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
Originally by: Rodj Blake I really don't see the point to your question. After all, it's clear that you consider us to be relevant, otherwise you wouldn't have declared war on us and used so many words on us.
If you don't see the point of it what do you lose by answering it? Its a simple question. Do you consider PIE Inc. Is relevant to the Amarrian Empire? Why are you terrified to answer this?
I have already answered your question. More than once.
Just because my answer wasn't to your liking, it doesn't follow that you can go on and on asking it in the hope that I'll give you the answer that you are looking for.
I consider that particular matter to now be at an end.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori. |

Tomahawk Bliss
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.05.15 15:35:00 -
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Edited by: Tomahawk Bliss on 15/05/2007 15:34:21
Originally by: Sapphrine
Originally by: Tomahawk Bliss Edited by: Tomahawk Bliss on 15/05/2007 14:42:31
this is just one snap shot mind, I have many but there are rules about posting more than one image.
make a dent in that or shut up.
Whilst I appreciate that you are in fact targetting solely SF with the request to kill your capital ships I do have to ask.... What makes you think any of those ships are safe given the substantial number of them that have recently become burning wrecks around 9uy?
It is a shame your presence in space is so small in comparison to your caterwauling on these boards. Possibly spend more time in the pod fighting?
the whole point was that you said they don't fly any big ships. you are wrong, obviously. you did admit PIE are out there though, which doesn't help SF's propoganda. but you don't give PIE the credit they earn by fire and death.
edit: just to be clear I was not saying SF should go out there and attack PIE, they know they would be butchered by vastly superior fleets. it would be suicide, hence their baseing in secure space. that post was for you.
Gogo Yubari> You can't destroy your enemy with the power of thought alone like many forum-warriors seem to think. GLBTA Channel |

Jasmine Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.05.15 15:42:00 -
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Originally by: Rodj Blake I have already answered your question. More than once. Just because my answer wasn't to your liking, it doesn't follow that you can go on and on asking it in the hope that I'll give you the answer that you are looking for. I consider that particular matter to now be at an end.
No Rodj you haven't answered my question. It is very clear to everyone here you have performed linguistic gymnastics to avoid answering it. I want a Yes or No answer without all the wriggling. Is PIE Inc. Relevant to the Amarrian Empire?
YES/NO.
Star Fraction is recruiting
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.15 15:53:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
Originally by: Rodj Blake I have already answered your question. More than once. Just because my answer wasn't to your liking, it doesn't follow that you can go on and on asking it in the hope that I'll give you the answer that you are looking for. I consider that particular matter to now be at an end.
No Rodj you haven't answered my question. It is very clear to everyone here you have performed linguistic gymnastics to avoid answering it. I want a Yes or No answer without all the wriggling. Is PIE Inc. Relevant to the Amarrian Empire?
YES/NO.
I was under the impression that this was a debate rather than a multiple chioce questionnaire with you as the quiz master.
As such, I refer you here.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori. |
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Khades
Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.05.15 16:07:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Rodj Blake
Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
Originally by: Rodj Blake I have already answered your question. More than once. Just because my answer wasn't to your liking, it doesn't follow that you can go on and on asking it in the hope that I'll give you the answer that you are looking for. I consider that particular matter to now be at an end.
No Rodj you haven't answered my question. It is very clear to everyone here you have performed linguistic gymnastics to avoid answering it. I want a Yes or No answer without all the wriggling. Is PIE Inc. Relevant to the Amarrian Empire?
YES/NO.
I was under the impression that this was a debate rather than a multiple chioce questionnaire with you as the quiz master.
As such, I refer you here.
Wow. It took you this long to realize there were only two answers to pick from?  |

Jasmine Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.05.15 16:11:00 -
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Originally by: Rodj Blake I was under the impression that this was a debate rather than a multiple chioce questionnaire with you as the quiz master.
No Rodj its a yes or no question. Is PIE Inc. relevant to the Amarrian Empire.
Yes : you are relevant. No : you are not relevant.
Why is this so incredibly and painfully difficult for you to answer? 
Star Fraction is recruiting
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Tharrn
Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria
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Posted - 2007.05.15 16:16:00 -
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PIE is and always has been a figurehead. That is much more than can be said about Hypocrite Fiction, who are indeed largely irrelevant to everyone.
Ceterum censeo 'Concordia' esse delendam.
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Jasmine Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.05.15 16:24:00 -
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Originally by: Tharrn PIE is and always has been a figurehead. That is much more than can be said about Hypocrite Fiction, who are indeed largely irrelevant to everyone.
Is Vigilia Valeria relevant to the Amarrian Empire? Yes or No please.
Star Fraction is recruiting
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Sapphrine
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.05.15 16:24:00 -
[85]
Edited by: Sapphrine on 15/05/2007 16:23:29
Originally by: Tomahawk Bliss (Rambling and a rare shot of a PIE cap ship undocked!)
this is just one snap shot mind, I have many but there are rules about posting more than one image.
make a dent in that or shut up.
Whilst I appreciate that you are in fact targetting solely SF with the request to kill your capital ships I do have to ask.... What makes you think any of those ships are safe given the substantial number of them that have recently become burning wrecks around 9uy?
It is a shame your presence in space is so small in comparison to your caterwauling on these boards. Possibly spend more time in the pod fighting?
the whole point was that you said they don't fly any big ships. you are wrong, obviously. you did admit PIE are out there though, which doesn't help SF's propoganda. but you don't give PIE the credit they earn by fire and death.
edit: just to be clear I was not saying SF should go out there and attack PIE, they know they would be butchered by vastly superior fleets. it would be suicide, hence their baseing in secure space. that post was for you.
One might then ask where all those mighty cap ships have been after their initial slaughter little hawk. Again I suggest that you actually get in a pod and start fighting with your ship. Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected]) |

Casserina Leshrac
Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik
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Posted - 2007.05.15 16:44:00 -
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Originally by: Tharrn PIE is and always has been a figurehead. That is much more than can be said about Hypocrite Fiction, who are indeed largely irrelevant to everyone.
PIE is a figurehead for what? The Empire? I should hope not. The Empire has enough agencies in place for that purpose.
It's no wonder that the Sani Sabik will be the new spiritual leaders of the Empire when this is over. 
Casserina Sani Sabik Illuminati From the Darkness I sow the seeds of Chaos. |

Sami Yahn'ko
Gallente The Butterfly Rebellion
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Posted - 2007.05.15 17:02:00 -
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"...you abandoned your original mission in the cluster of freeing space from tyrannical 0.0 governments...securing free 0.0 space for pilots..."
These words here from Mr. Archbishop truly are quite staggering.
Mr. Archbishop, you appear to be an expert on the minutiae of their involvements in wars stretching back years and years, into almost forgotten history, certainly well before my time in the capsule.
Despite that however, you do not appear to even have the most basic grasp of what it is the Fraction actually stand for or fights against.
Now...I can give you the benefit of the doubt, assume you're not willfully misrepresenting the obvious facts, and thereby deduce that you're quite possibly the most unintelligent pilot in the cluster.
Or conversely, I can give you the benefit of the doubt, assume you're actually intelligent enough to grasp the true nature of the Fraction's work, and thereby deduce that you're quite possibly the most inept liar in the cluster.
The facts of the matter are so incredibly obvious; the Fraction has time and time again made strenuous claims that it does not and will not secure space for anyone, and yet you state this as their "original mission"?
Goodness me...
They are not police. Do you realize this?
It's not an incredibly difficult concept you know.
Are you a fool, or do you take the rest of us to be one?
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Tareen Kashaar
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.05.15 17:21:00 -
[88]
Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
Originally by: Rodj Blake stuff
The reason you can't answer Yes / No rodj is quite obvious I'm afraid. What you want to say is "Yes (we are relevant when winning) but No (we are no relevant when losing)" but you can't have it both ways. Either you are relevant to the Amarrian Empire or you are not. You can't be revelant sometimes but not others. You can't have it both ways. So which is it. Is PIE relevant to the Amarrian Empire or not?
Oh Jasmine, I really wonder why you waste so much energy on this poor squirming worm. The true reason why he doesn't want to answer should be apparent to any and all unbiased reader now, and his continuous attempts to defy you are just his personality ruining his PR. It really is amusing to see him wriggle like that though, so if he does keep it up, all the better for the audience.
On a side note, asking PIE whether they are relevant to the empire... maybe we should ask someone with actual authority instead. These guys certainly don't have any of that. --- WTS: Forum Signatures, 30mil a piece. Evemail me!
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Tomahawk Bliss
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.05.15 17:42:00 -
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Originally by: Sapphrine Again I suggest that you actually get in a pod and start fighting with your ship.

I'm gonna assume you aren't the offical Ushra'Khan spindoctor, because that would be sad...very sad.
Gogo Yubari> You can't destroy your enemy with the power of thought alone like many forum-warriors seem to think. GLBTA Channel |

Reash
Amarr Auctoritan Syndicate Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.15 17:46:00 -
[90]
Originally by: Tareen Kashaar
Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
Originally by: Rodj Blake stuff
The reason you can't answer Yes / No rodj is quite obvious I'm afraid. What you want to say is "Yes (we are relevant when winning) but No (we are no relevant when losing)" but you can't have it both ways. Either you are relevant to the Amarrian Empire or you are not. You can't be revelant sometimes but not others. You can't have it both ways. So which is it. Is PIE relevant to the Amarrian Empire or not?
On a side note, asking PIE whether they are relevant to the empire... maybe we should ask someone with actual authority instead. These guys certainly don't have any of that.
Rodj's whole point appears to be just that! It is not his place to say, so instead he gave actions PIE had been involved with and left the decision to the outsiders.
Glad to see you at least partially understand. -----------------------
Auctoritan Syndicate Director
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