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Nekumi
Caldari
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.05.16 12:39:00 -
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If only your words could be met with some kind of action, any action. PIE are a worthless group of relics who can only cling to the achievements of those around them. I have seen the CVA fight alone, and I have seen the Aegis Militias stand alone and fight for what they believe in. No claims of relevance where needed then and none are needed now.
One of the only people I have seen worth a damn within PIE has now moved on, it is my hope that others will follow.
I don't care what pretensions of glory you have PIE. You cannot back them up. You are a parasite. You cannot exist without the good graces of those around you. Anything you have claimed to have done has been on the backs of those too kind or too stupid to realise that your efforts where nothing compared to their own.
Your argument, your sermon, your word is as dust to me.
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Archbishop
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.16 12:40:00 -
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Originally posted by Jasmine Constantine:
Once again you misrepresent and lie about our ideology. We don't "secure" anybodys rights. We encourage them to take their own destiny into their own hands and ensure their own freedoms with strength and self-reliance. Star Fraction is not the failed CFS that your friend Calladen Nimitz tried to foist on the territories of the early South West. Where CFS made promises it couldn't keep while deploying a toy "navy" to "secure" the "rights" of neutrals and attack pirates and enemies of your friend .. Star Fraction have long promoted that a persons territory ends at the hull of their ship and freedom is taken and held by those with the courage and daring to avoid slipping into traditional nationalist/imperialist traps.
And you are a fine one to talk of failure. TTI/VA/CFS not exactly sterling accomplishments. And now PIE reduced in six weeks of warfare into a entity that struggles to have three pilots active at the same time and has to boast how getting murdered in Providence is your excuse you can't fight us in the Throne Worlds? Your best pilots leaving and the remainder despairing against ever turning the ride and fighting those same anarchist fighters you roundly condemn as talentless failures? You can't even run your industry correctly Archbishop and neither can your friend Calladen, instead of evolving with new technology you prefer to whine pitifully about being "undercut" on the margins and write endless letters of complaint to concord product licensing commissions in an attempt to have the rules changed in your favour to remain *ahem* competitive.
I haven't seen Mr. Nimitz since a corporation party several months ago. He works for my nephews company I know but I don't talk to him much. I don't even hold stock anymore in his company I gave it all to my nephew as a gift. I fail to see what he has to do with PIE or with me. You certainly seem obsessed with him perhaps you should contact him directly via evemail? Likewise I've never been in TTI/VA/CFS although I know the CVA member Imperial Dreams was in CFS. What I know of TTI/VA/CFS I know from reading historical accounts as Archbishop of PIE hasn't encountered those groups in his travels.
You seem confused are you using some illict boosters or other narcotics? Perhaps some therapy is in order? This is the second time you mentioned him and it honestly makes no sense at all.
Archbishop
PIE WEBSITE
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Jasmine Constantine
Gallente
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.05.16 12:42:00 -
[153]
Originally by: Tharrn
It is understandable that Jasmine doesn't want to answer the question regarding their achievements as the list of accumulated failures over four years would just be too embarassing and hard to spin.
I don't think we should be hearing the word "failure" from a man who's alliance utterly failed to make any impact whatsover on Star Fraction in this war and who's sole active combat pilot defected from your ranks to another CVA corporation in disgust for your negativity and woeful deployment of war-tactics. Tharrn - in Free Captain circles your name is synonymous with laughable mediocrity - nothing else.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.16 12:45:00 -
[154]
Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
Once again you misrepresent and lie about our ideology. We don't "secure" anybodys rights. We encourage them to take their own destiny into their own hands and ensure their own freedoms with strength and self-reliance. Star Fraction is not the failed CFS that your friend Calladen Nimitz tried to foist on the territories of the early South West. Where CFS made promises it couldn't keep while deploying a toy "navy" to "secure" the "rights" of neutrals and attack pirates and enemies of your friend .. Star Fraction have long promoted that a persons territory ends at the hull of their ship and freedom is taken and held by those with the courage and daring to avoid slipping into traditional nationalist/imperialist traps.
And just how many pilots has SF managed to encourage in this way? Let's compare it with the number of neutral pilots active in lower Domain and Providence shall we?
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And you are a fine one to talk of failure. TTI/VA/CFS not exactly sterling accomplishments.
I don't recall Archbishop having any influence over any of those three alliances.
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And now PIE reduced in six weeks of warfare into a entity that struggles to have three pilots active at the same time and has to boast how getting murdered in Providence is your excuse you can't fight us in the Throne Worlds?
I've been in my pod when there were only three SF pilots active. I didn't take that as a sign that SF were in any struggling numerically. Rest assured that when we need to have pilots in space, they are in space.
As for us getting murdered in Providence, maybe you'd be able to see reality if you ever entered the region rather than skulk around in Mista.
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Your best pilots leaving
Kostantin Mort has taken a leave of absence from us. Apart from him I don't recall anyone of Captain rank or higher leaving us during the period of your war declaration. Let's not pretend that SF haven't lost any pilots either, eh?
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and the remainder despairing against ever turning the ride and fighting those same anarchist fighters you roundly condemn as talentless failures?
That implies that there is a tide to be turned. Once again, I would like to point out to you that our operational abilities have not been impaired by you.
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You can't even run your industry correctly Archbishop and neither can your friend Calladen, instead of evolving with new technology you prefer to whine pitifully about being "undercut" on the margins and write endless letters of complaint to concord product licensing commissions in an attempt to have the rules changed in your favour to remain *ahem* competitive.
What has this Calladen got to do with it? Archbishop runs a very efficient manufacturing operation on behalf of PIE, and that includes the manufacturing of new technology.
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We know all about your failures Archbishop have no doubt. Your failure as a battleship campaign is a relatively minor mark in your litany of grotesque inneptitude over the years.
Maybe you'd care to list these alleged failures?
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And now you fail even to answer a simple little question without twisting and turning and pursing your deceitful lips against the sound of your own voice.
How you answering some of my questions? Like the one where I asked you to list SF's achievements, perhaps?
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Is PIE Inc. Relevant to the Amarrian Empire? Yes or No. Come on and say it! (you know you want too) Are you really that afraid of what the subsequent debate might bring that you can't just blurt it out and satisfy the curiosity of everyone reading this thread?
Be a man!
Have some courage!
Tell the truth for once!
I have already supplied a perfectly good answer regarding the issue of PIE's relevance.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori. |
Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.16 12:46:00 -
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Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
Originally by: Archbishop
You have no right to ask questions here Rodj until you answer the question you have been repeated asked. Is PIE Inc. Relevant to the Amarrian Empire? Yes / No.
Exactly! So now answer the question please.
Jasmine Constantine - not so much a free captain as a context-free captain.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori. |
Jasmine Constantine
Gallente
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.05.16 12:46:00 -
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So Rodj, Is PIE Inc. Relevant to the Amarrian Empire? Yes or No?
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Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.16 12:54:00 -
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Edited by: Rodj Blake on 16/05/2007 12:53:24
Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
So Rodj, Is PIE Inc. Relevant to the Amarrian Empire? Yes or No?
Really Jasmine, you're just like a character (a young girl) in a holovid I saw as a child. I think it was called Only Willem or something. I can just imagine it now... "Answer my qwestion how I want it or I shall scweam and scweam and scweam!"
Answer here, clarification here.
Now that I've yet again referred you to my answers, perhaps you'll publish that list of JF/SF achievements?
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori. |
Archbishop
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.16 12:54:00 -
[158]
Well I asked my question first but I guess that rule only applies the real world not Jasmineland.... unless she thinks she asked first in which case she demands an answer.
Archbishop
PIE WEBSITE
ARCHBISHOP'S BLOG |
Jasmine Constantine
Gallente
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.05.16 13:02:00 -
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You people are as bad at debate as your are at fighting and boy is that saying something 
Star Fraction is recruiting
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Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.16 13:06:00 -
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Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
You people are as bad at debate as your are at fighting and boy is that saying something
If being a good debater in your book involves constantly re-asking questions that have already been answered, personal insults galore and citing links to people and organisations where no such links exist, then I'm glad that you consider me to be a bad debater.
Now, perhaps you'll post that verifiable list of SF/JF achievements?
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Archbishop
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.16 13:11:00 -
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Likewise I'd like to see that list of accomplishments as well and I'm still waiting for an answer to my question (which I'll note was asked first). As we can't tell you how the Empire feels about our relevance you'll have to ask them. As I mentioned above I guess that makes the real question "would they continaully ask for the help of a group they feel irrelevant". We'll let people answer themselves on that one as we have no ego to stroke thus have no opinion on that. We are what we are and thats all we are. Service to God and Empire, humility and piety. The PIE way.
Archbishop
PIE WEBSITE
ARCHBISHOP'S BLOG |
CometQueen
Amarr
Amarr Certified News Agency
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Posted - 2007.05.16 13:15:00 -
[162]
Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
You people are as bad at debate as your are at fighting and boy is that saying something
I would have to disagree on that mark, PIE has done very well to maintain decorum in the face of adversity. Were we to analyze this debate by the standardized rules you would not like the outcome.
Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
So Rodj, Is PIE Inc. Relevant to the Amarrian Empire? Yes or No?
many have been very polite in answering that question including myself. We all have the answer, both Yes and No. the cluster is not so simple to define nor does our reality fit into a concise box argument.
I would not be opposed to discussing the next logical step in your argument, which is whether the Star Fraction is having an impact on the empire and the contagious mementics it propagate. that would be something worth discussing as I feel a great many individuals have widely divergent points of view on that matter.
Cometqueen
Devotee of God and the Truth
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Jasmine Constantine
Gallente
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.05.16 13:19:00 -
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Originally by: GulletSplitter
Nice write up again Jasmine. I've begun looking foward to the write ups if not the accusation/denial stuff that happens after it. Though I must say it's been kinda fun watching the verbal jousting in an attempt to get an answer from PIE.
Nice "not quite direct answer" as well Rodj. And I mean this with no sarcasm. I do understand why you're not answering and why SF is still pushing you for an answer. I think either way you answer there won't be a right answer. To borrow a few religious terms "It's damned if you do...or damned if you don't".
Thank you GulletSplitter, always nice to be appreciated and you are right of course. They cannot answer this question. Because either which way way they do they are damned.
If they answer "yes" then it automatically means their enemies are Relevant too and that contradicts their rhetoric for the last six weeks (and most of the last four years in truth) and they can no longer fall back on "the Empire is immortal and cannot be affected by you peons" nonsense they like to spout.
If they answer "no" then it means they have been fighting for nothing for four years and admit they are nothing in turn.
So the only answer they can provide is not to answer and to wriggle like worms on a spike, and I'll admit, its been amusing for me to see this too. And its definately ironic that while we never see these people in space during the campaign weeks they love to troop out for the war-diary regular as clockwork. Says a lot really
Star Fraction is recruiting
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Jasmine Constantine
Gallente
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.05.16 13:23:00 -
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Originally by: CometQueen
I would not be opposed to discussing the next logical step in your argument, which is whether the Star Fraction is having an impact on the empire and the contagious mementics it propagates. that would be something worth discussing as I feel a great many individuals have widely divergent points of view on that matter.
We cannot proceed to that step without a definitive Yes or No answer from PIE alas. Its impossible to assess Star Fractions impact on the Empire (given our impact is through the comprehensive kicking we have delivered to Amarrian paramilitaries) without said paramilitaries first affirming their relevance to the Empire itself. If said paramilitiaries are not relevant to the empire then we have had no effect on the empire. If they are relevant to the empire then we have had an effect on the empire. It really is this simple and until we get that straight answer from the Amarrian bloc this discussion can go no further.
Star Fraction is recruiting
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Archbishop
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.16 13:23:00 -
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If they answer "yes" then it automatically means their enemies are Relevant too and that contradicts their rhetoric for the last six weeks (and most of the last four years in truth) and they can no longer fall back on "the Empire is immortal and cannot be affected by you peons" nonsense they like to spout.
As we don't have an opinion on "relevance" and aren't obsessed with it its kind of a moot point but I will make an observation for your benefit.
Hypothetically speaking of course if someone is relevant and someone else declares war on them does that make them automatically relevant too? Nope. Nice try though.
Archbishop
PIE WEBSITE
ARCHBISHOP'S BLOG |
Casserina Leshrac
Amarr
Bloodveil
The Sani Sabik
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Posted - 2007.05.16 13:24:00 -
[166]
Originally by: Rodj Blake
Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
You people are as bad at debate as your are at fighting and boy is that saying something
If being a good debater in your book involves constantly re-asking questions that have already been answered, personal insults galore and citing links to people and organisations where no such links exist, then I'm glad that you consider me to be a bad debater.
Now, perhaps you'll post that verifiable list of SF/JF achievements?
Jasmine, it's no use to pursue this line of questioning anymore. I submit that due to their actions on this thread and the voices of other Amarrian corps that PIE has displayed their relevance to the Empire.
PIE might have been great at one time, but now they are weak and pathetic. They have fallen from grace in the eyes of many Amarrians, their acts of cowardice and duplicity are now public.
In my eyes they are no longer relevant.
This goes to answers Archbishop's question is Star Fraction a threat to the Empire. The Star Fraction is a threat to the current state of the Empire. True the Imperial Navy has not been called out, but who would command them, the Emperor? There is no Emperor.
The Theology Council or perhaps the Chamberlain? Apparently none of them are capable of reacting to a threat of this nature.
The Star Fraction has shown the soft underside of the Empire by taking control of the Amarr system and successfully interdicted it.
Casserina
Sani Sabik Illuminati
From the Darkness I sow the seeds of Chaos. |
CometQueen
Amarr
Amarr Certified News Agency
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Posted - 2007.05.16 13:27:00 -
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Edited by: CometQueen on 16/05/2007 13:27:23
Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
If they answer "yes" then it automatically means their enemies are Relevant too and that contradicts their rhetoric for the last six weeks (and most of the last four years in truth) and they can no longer fall back on "the Empire is immortal and cannot be affected by you peons" nonsense they like to spout.
If they answer "no" then it means they have been fighting for nothing for four years and admit they are nothing in turn.
not to make it a bad habit but I will again have to disagree with you Ms. Constantine. Such simplistic analysis of a situation does not lend itself to the weight of years and volume of history present. I recall your own notable organization has often been the victim of broad and vast generalizations. No organization that has persisted so long and been part of so much can ever be quantified in such a way.
Would you care to discuss the various ways your Organization is having an impact on both the Pod community and the Empire at large?
Cometqueen
Devotee of God and the Truth
my this debate is running fast, forgive me for quoting so late
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Archbishop
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.16 13:28:00 -
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It is interesting to note who they have declared war on in their quest to be "relevant" as evidenced by their obsession with the word and their anger at our considering them irrelevant.
Archbishop
PIE WEBSITE
ARCHBISHOP'S BLOG |
Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.16 13:28:00 -
[169]
Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
Originally by: GulletSplitter
Nice write up again Jasmine. I've begun looking foward to the write ups if not the accusation/denial stuff that happens after it. Though I must say it's been kinda fun watching the verbal jousting in an attempt to get an answer from PIE.
Nice "not quite direct answer" as well Rodj. And I mean this with no sarcasm. I do understand why you're not answering and why SF is still pushing you for an answer. I think either way you answer there won't be a right answer. To borrow a few religious terms "It's damned if you do...or damned if you don't".
Thank you GulletSplitter, always nice to be appreciated and you are right of course. They cannot answer this question. Because either which way way they do they are damned.
If they answer "yes" then it automatically means their enemies are Relevant too and that contradicts their rhetoric for the last six weeks (and most of the last four years in truth) and they can no longer fall back on "the Empire is immortal and cannot be affected by you peons" nonsense they like to spout.
If they answer "no" then it means they have been fighting for nothing for four years and admit they are nothing in turn.
So the only answer they can provide is not to answer and to wriggle like worms on a spike, and I'll admit, its been amusing for me to see this too. And its definately ironic that while we never see these people in space during the campaign weeks they love to troop out for the war-diary regular as clockwork. Says a lot really
Answer here, clarification here.
As for the binary answers that you seem so obsessed about, binary answers are often meaningless. For example, if I were to say to you "What colour is chlorophyll - red or blue?" you would most likely answer with a third option - neither.
We could also go on to have an intriguing debate regarding the heterophenomonology of colour sensation, qualia, and their relationships to wavelength sensitivity in different species.
Would I be justified in constantly repeating the question and insisting that you give me a one word answer that is either red or blue? Of course not.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori. |
Jasmine Constantine
Gallente
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.05.16 13:28:00 -
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Edited by: Jasmine Constantine on 16/05/2007 13:27:41
Originally by: Archbishop
Hypothetically speaking of course if someone is relevant and someone else declares war on them does that make them automatically relevant too? Nope. Nice try though.
Of course it does. If corporation A. is promising to mine X amount of minerals for alliance B. Then A is relevant to B. If corporation C declares war (and suppresses and damages) corporation A (thereby limiting its ability to deliver minerals for alliance B) then corporation C is relevant to Alliance B as well, (since it is impact its ability to gather minerals).
So if PIE is relevant to the Empire then Star Fraction is relevant to the empire since we have handed you a right royal kicking in six weeks and critically wounded your corporation.
Whereas if SF is irrelevant to the Empire then PIE must be irrelevant to the Empire also.
The logic is pretty straightforward.
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Octavinus Augustus
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.16 13:30:00 -
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Incredible.
The question asked by Little Jasmine Constantine has been answered time and time again over the last few pages of this thread. Yet as none of the answers seem to be what Little Jasmine would like to hear, she continues to ask the same question.
When I point out the fact that her own organisation has attacked me for repeating a question that Star Fraction pilots themselves are unable to answer, Little Jasmine simply chooses to ignore this. For the benefit of Little Jasmine Constantine I'll even ask it again here:
If you expect others to respect your right to fight whomever you like in whatever way you desire, should you not extend that same courtesy to others?
As for Little Jasmines fondness of repeating questions that has no simple answer and requesting a yes/no answer, perhaps we should try explaining it like this: Jasmine what is 2+2? You must answer either "3" or "5" - and if you get it wrong you're a dimwit. Actually, Little Jasmine, let me give you a hint: You're a dimwit!
Perhaps, Little Jasmine, it's time for you to realize that if you cannot understand the answer to your question, that might have more to do with your mental capacity than with the answer given? Or perhaps you are not really interested in the answer at all - perhaps you merely wish to continue stating your little question?
Actually, I find that the only truly disappointing thing in this debate is that my fellow pilots and friends in the Amarr block continue to try to reason with you. After all, getting into an argument with an idiot will only lead to you getting dragged down to his (or in your case her) level and then get beaten by experience and perseverence.
I long ago realized that when dealing with the Star Fraction the individual behaviour of your pilots does not vouch for the honour of the rest. I still have a lot of respect for the vast majority of Star Fraction pilots. For you, Little Jasmine, I have none.
If you can neither understand or accept the answer you have been given, perhaps it's time to let the issue lie? or perhaps you would simply prefer it if we all sat in a dark pit slinging mud at each other? I guess it's your choice.
Motto: Vae Victis - Woe to the vanquished. |
Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.16 13:30:00 -
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Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
Originally by: CometQueen
I would not be opposed to discussing the next logical step in your argument, which is whether the Star Fraction is having an impact on the empire and the contagious mementics it propagates. that would be something worth discussing as I feel a great many individuals have widely divergent points of view on that matter.
We cannot proceed to that step without a definitive Yes or No answer from PIE alas. Its impossible to assess Star Fractions impact on the Empire (given our impact is through the comprehensive kicking we have delivered to Amarrian paramilitaries) without said paramilitaries first affirming their relevance to the Empire itself. If said paramilitiaries are not relevant to the empire then we have had no effect on the empire. If they are relevant to the empire then we have had an effect on the empire. It really is this simple and until we get that straight answer from the Amarrian bloc this discussion can go no further.
Comprehensive kicking?
So why are our operational abilities just as strong if not stronger now than they were at the start of your campaign?
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori. |
Jasmine Constantine
Gallente
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.05.16 13:32:00 -
[173]
Originally by: Rodj Blake
As for the binary answers that you seem so obsessed about, binary answers are often meaningless. For example, if I were to say to you "What colour is chlorophyll - red or blue?" you would most likely answer with a third option - neither.
Actually I'd answer "I don't know". So for you and your valiant logic Rodj.
Is PIE Inc. Relevant to the Amarrian Empire?
A. Yes
B. No
C. Don't know
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Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.16 13:32:00 -
[174]
Originally by: Casserina Leshrac
Originally by: Rodj Blake
Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
You people are as bad at debate as your are at fighting and boy is that saying something
If being a good debater in your book involves constantly re-asking questions that have already been answered, personal insults galore and citing links to people and organisations where no such links exist, then I'm glad that you consider me to be a bad debater.
Now, perhaps you'll post that verifiable list of SF/JF achievements?
Jasmine, it's no use to pursue this line of questioning anymore. I submit that due to their actions on this thread and the voices of other Amarrian corps that PIE has displayed their relevance to the Empire.
PIE might have been great at one time, but now they are weak and pathetic. They have fallen from grace in the eyes of many Amarrians, their acts of cowardice and duplicity are now public.
In my eyes they are no longer relevant.
This goes to answers Archbishop's question is Star Fraction a threat to the Empire. The Star Fraction is a threat to the current state of the Empire. True the Imperial Navy has not been called out, but who would command them, the Emperor? There is no Emperor.
The Theology Council or perhaps the Chamberlain? Apparently none of them are capable of reacting to a threat of this nature.
The Star Fraction has shown the soft underside of the Empire by taking control of the Amarr system and successfully interdicted it.
The Star Fraction controls Amarr every bit as much as The Sani Sabik alliance controls Fensi.
Not at all.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori. |
Jasmine Constantine
Gallente
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.05.16 13:33:00 -
[175]
Originally by: Rodj Blake
Comprehensive kicking? So why are our operational abilities just as strong if not stronger now than they were at the start of your campaign?
You struggle to get three people active and in their pods of an evening. You are incapable of travelling in the throne worlds in anything bigger than a warp core stabbed interceptor. I'd say your "operational abilities" are null.
Star Fraction is recruiting
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Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.16 13:34:00 -
[176]
Edited by: Rodj Blake on 16/05/2007 13:33:41
Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
Originally by: Rodj Blake
As for the binary answers that you seem so obsessed about, binary answers are often meaningless. For example, if I were to say to you "What colour is chlorophyll - red or blue?" you would most likely answer with a third option - neither.
Actually I'd answer "I don't know". So for you and your valiant logic Rodj.
Is PIE Inc. Relevant to the Amarrian Empire?
A. Yes
B. No
C. Don't know
For the record, chlorophyll is generally considered to be green. I suppose basic biochemistry isn't in the Star Fraction educational syllabus?
Anyway, my answer to your question is here, with further clarification here.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori. |
Jasmine Constantine
Gallente
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.05.16 13:38:00 -
[177]
Originally by: CometQueen
not to make it a bad habit but I will again have to disagree with you Ms. Constantine. Such simplistic analysis of a situation does not lend itself to the weight of years and volume of history present. I recall your own notable organization has often been the victim of broad and vast generalizations. No organization that has persisted so long and been part of so much can ever be quantified in such a way.
I think you are seeing the point. No organisation that has persisted so and been a part of so much can ever be quantified in this way eh? And yet the Amarrian bloc are continuing in the suggestion that Star Fraction is irrelevant to the Amarrian Empire. And I am saying that given the comprehensive crushing of all PIE fleet operations in the throne worlds it is not possible for SF activities to be irrelevant to the Amarrian Empire unless the activities of its loyalist capsuleer organisations are also judged to be irrelevant.
Star Fraction is recruiting
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Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.16 13:38:00 -
[178]
Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
Originally by: Rodj Blake
Comprehensive kicking? So why are our operational abilities just as strong if not stronger now than they were at the start of your campaign?
You struggle to get three people active and in their pods of an evening. You are incapable of travelling in the throne worlds in anything bigger than a warp core stabbed interceptor. I'd say your "operational abilities" are null.
Perhaps you should leave the protection of CONCORD in Mista and venture into our current theatre of operations then. That way you could see our operational abilities at first hand
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori. |
Jasmine Constantine
Gallente
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.05.16 13:39:00 -
[179]
Originally by: Rodj Blake
Anyway, my answer to your question is here, with further clarification here.
Still can't answer! Not even when I now give you a "don't know" option? You really are terrified of this question aren't you?
Star Fraction is recruiting
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Casserina Leshrac
Amarr
Bloodveil
The Sani Sabik
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Posted - 2007.05.16 13:39:00 -
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Originally by: Rodj Blake
The Star Fraction controls Amarr every bit as much as The Sani Sabik alliance controls Fensi.
Our operations in Fensi are preceding nicely. I'll inform lady Revan that you were concerned about our well-being.
It is because of those operations that several more corps have joined our Alliance.
Again I thank you personally for your concerns. Perhaps we can do business sometime? 
Casserina
Sani Sabik Illuminati
From the Darkness I sow the seeds of Chaos. |
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