If you're gonna keep nerfing Rorquals and Excavators, can you make them cheaper? Increase drop rates of those drone AI's, or maybe just nix excavators entirely and turn them into capital strip miners or something, cause lets be honest, no one wants to undock a ship that costs 10bn isk and makes less money than a 3bn isk ratting carrier... Sure the rorqual requires less clicking, but it requires the same level of attentiveness to your screen and intel or it's dead, so what's the difference really.

You're destroying risk vs reward outcomes for rorquals.

This is the problem that has kept me out of Rorquals. The cost of the ship and drones is out of proportion to the reward. Maybe it made sense when the Rorquals and Excavators were obscene, but now not even close. I can understand the anomaly nerf as a way to decrease production and even the mining yield reduction, but the speed reduction on the drones is just cruel.

Rorquals are going to lose 50% of their income since you lose 9% yield per excavator

These guys really don't think about the little guys or renter alliances. Now they are going to have to have more space and more space to defend. Not to mention miners rarely just log after a colossal all they are doing is taking a dump on smaller groups. How is any small group going to break into null with these kind of limitations. Instead of all this crap they keep trying they could simply balance the ore composition and there wouldn't be such a massive surplus of low mins that are crashing the markets. I'd much rather have less trit and crap to dump on the market after building caps to sell. I know it seems impossible to have you guys listen to your players that pay and actually do the activities you're nerf batting but dang. CSM brainwashed not willing to look at alternatives is just as bad. looks like it's just going to end up being a ratting for isk game when CCP makes tons more off the multi-box miners but craps all over them. Seems to me they posted record profits by not working and ditching whatever staff that was making good content.

CSM complains plenty, but their Non-Disclosure Agreement prevents them from telling you just how much they complain. CCP largely ignores the CSM feedback (true story!), because the CSM tells them what the players feel and CCP takes the view of most developers, which is "it's our game, not yours".

CSM complains plenty, but their Non-Disclosure Agreement prevents them from telling you just how much they complain. CCP largely ignores the CSM feedback (true story!), because the CSM tells them what the players feel and CCP takes the view of most developers, which is "it's our game, not yours".

Sadly most game developers find out how very wrong they are on this score when they push it too far and players leave in droves. I don't think CCP are quite there yet, but they are getting there with every bad decision and implementation.

The whole point of the CSM is to represent the players, the players cannot be properly represented if the CSM are forbidden from reporting fully. There's no point in even having them if you're going to gag them, it's utterly pointless.

As it stands the rorqual changes make little difference to me, all that will happen is that people will just stop using it. Again. Then it'll be the same as it was pre-ascension, noone will ever use the thing until CCP buff it again. The circle will be complete.

Ben Sabezan]Why not just delete all the mining ships lesser than a rorqual from the game? It is not goons fault that hunters in delve can barely even kill excavators. So instead of giving a buff to pvp fozzie would rather have you dock up.

CCP were force-fed this lesson already, but apparently didn't fire enough people associated with it for the rest to get the message.

Oh boy....... i like the word this is out game, not yours... but i said is my money not your money.... so please CCP make the mining activity GREAT AGAIN....... GOOD BLESS US

Hi CCP,

I come from Work 18:00pm loggin into the game see despane time 3h or more for a belt ( thats the whole time I can spend to play the game because RL, Sleep, Work...), I check if we have a startop or something other to do and than I have to log off because I have to go to work next day and can't spend 3h or more waiting for content...
Peaople have a real life "Idiots".

Soemeone should tell you that for a game developer it is in his best interest to have people online and to keep them as long they can online...

With this despawn time only people without work or rl can mining. It's a damn bad Idea you should know that and if this is coming many of us hast to search for more "working class friendly" games...

And by the way a one week event with monmining that is coming in a future time... dosen't help people they can't spend some hours a day playing this game.

Mining was one of this contents I could do it allways I loggin. Now I have to loggin if a bellt is there sounds stupid right? Is stupid and you will see what you get if you bring this life. I don't need the game but you need me to pay for the game sometimes CCP should think about that fact.

But I'm here since 2009 and never ever CCP was listen to their customers only if we start quiting accounts they start to do things right....