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Ductoris
Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department

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Posted - 2007.06.07 06:16:00 -
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http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/07/arts/07eve.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
Some real big info in there. I'm sure you'll be hearing more about it in the future but until then I thought I'd make a thread to consolidate the comments.
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Yurii Chan
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Posted - 2007.06.07 06:21:00 -
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a-m-a-z-i-n-g!!!!
i love the new york Times and i love EVE
so i'm happy now. will it come in print tho?
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Badhands
Gallente Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2007.06.07 06:24:00 -
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Edited by: Badhands on 07/06/2007 06:22:56 Although I do not trust CCP anymore, and, being a member of Darkstar1 when it happened, I know that there was NOT a problem with the POS in the Sharkbait incident, I believe that this is most definitely a step in the right direction, and a fantabulous idea. Oh yeah, one more thing...
First!
Edit - Aww... second. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Statement on dev misconduct:
for the record, Darkstar1 has 3 pos in game only, both are and have always worked fine |

RaTTuS
BIG Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.06.07 06:25:00 -
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Umm, I nominate myself for free travel to iceland -- BIG Lottery, BIG Deal, InEve & Blog
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Johnnie Nano
Open Season
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Posted - 2007.06.07 06:25:00 -
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You beat me to it!
Amazing that Eve would get such coverage in NYTimes!
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Lavinrac Krad
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Posted - 2007.06.07 06:29:00 -
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Wow! I am quite amazed and impressed actually.
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Yurii Chan
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Posted - 2007.06.07 06:30:00 -
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Originally by: Johnnie Nano You beat me to it!
Amazing that Eve would get such coverage in NYTimes!
yea i know! NYT is #1 American paper imo. looks like i'll be up till daylight to snatch the paper right when they deliver it!!!
/me mumbles to self 'or i could set my alarm clock'

but yea, i like the idea of a committee of elected uh officials (are they officials?) sent to sniff out CCP HQ for WMDs... oh wait...
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Yakoff
Star Scream Inc. Ultima Rati0
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Posted - 2007.06.07 06:32:00 -
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Edited by: Yakoff on 07/06/2007 06:32:15 So, will there be some basic prerequisites/requirements that nominees must meet?
Can I be psychotic and still get on the nominee list, or does one of my multiple personalities have to be somewhat normal?
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Niccolado Starwalker
Shadow Templars
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Posted - 2007.06.07 06:33:00 -
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Edited by: Niccolado Starwalker on 07/06/2007 06:32:17
Originally by: Ductoris http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/07/arts/07eve.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
Some real big info in there. I'm sure you'll be hearing more about it in the future but until then I thought I'd make a thread to consolidate the comments.
Honestly, I have always trusted CCP.
I wish I could be nominated, but I am too much of a fanboi to be trusted 
Originally by: Eldo Davip PORTRAITS OMFG WOOT. WE R GONIG FOR MROE BREEE!!!!11
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Hippo117
Caldari Wings of Redemption Black Flag Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.07 06:34:00 -
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Interesting. --------------
Obligulatory 'opinion does not nescessarily represent those of my corp/alliance' stuff here. |

illusha
Ichiro Edgar Martinez
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Posted - 2007.06.07 06:37:00 -
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Damn that liberal bias! I thought it was a well written article and very funny in some areas.
Quote: So now, in a sociological twist, the company that makes Eve, CCP, based in Iceland (population 300,000), says it will tackle the problem the way a democracy would. In what appears to be a first, the company plans to hold elections so that players can select members of an oversight committee.
Quote: The company will then fly those players to Iceland regularly so they can audit CCPÆs operations and report back to their player-constituents. And taking cues from transitions to democracy in the developing world, CCP says it will call in election monitors from universities in Europe and the United States.
Are you serious? I haven't heard CCP anounce this yet and this is really stupid. What kind of a professional and legit company lets non-employees audit them and look at the details of their operation? None that I can think of. Yes, they may hire an outside firm to do it, but they are professionals, not regular people that play a spacecraft game and take it too seriously. Why would you pay a lot of money to fly non-employees to do something you obviously don't want them to do? This won't save your credibility.
Are you going to pay the people of these committee for their working hours lost? How would they explain this to their boss, "sorry boss but I need to go to Iceland for a couple of weeks to tell some idiots how to run a game" "Are you serious? you're FIRED"
Your lack of intelligence once again surprises me CCP, good job again!
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Mr Adequate
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.06.07 06:38:00 -
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Originally by: Johnnie Nano
Amazing that Eve would get such coverage in NYTimes!
Nice things about the player oversight committee -- I predict endless bickering on the forums that will totally distract everyone.
What to do to keep restless citizens quiet? A committee!
Iceland is a little too far from GMT+8 
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Mr Adequate
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.06.07 06:42:00 -
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Originally by: illusha
Are you going to pay the people of these committee for their working hours lost? How would they explain this to their boss, "sorry boss but I need to go to Iceland for a couple of weeks to tell some idiots how to run a game" "Are you serious? you're FIRED"
Your lack of intelligence once again surprises me CCP, good job again!
I am sure that I can apply for some time off -- one of the benefits of being self employed. If I can, then I am sure that within those 200,000 non-macro players there must be plenty.
Ok, we found the first required qualification for an EVE independent monitor:
(1) Need plenty of free time
Feel free to add ...
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illusha
Ichiro Edgar Martinez
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Posted - 2007.06.07 06:44:00 -
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2. Need to have at least a college education, preferably graduated with a business administration degree.
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Gnulpie
Minmatar Miner Tech
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Posted - 2007.06.07 06:45:00 -
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Interesting idea.
Hilmar is certainly right when he says that reality is partly that what we percieve/believe.
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Rslorien
Amarr Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.07 06:46:00 -
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Originally by: illusha Damn that liberal bias! I thought it was a well written article and very funny in some areas.
Quote: So now, in a sociological twist, the company that makes Eve, CCP, based in Iceland (population 300,000), says it will tackle the problem the way a democracy would. In what appears to be a first, the company plans to hold elections so that players can select members of an oversight committee.
Quote: The company will then fly those players to Iceland regularly so they can audit CCPÆs operations and report back to their player-constituents. And taking cues from transitions to democracy in the developing world, CCP says it will call in election monitors from universities in Europe and the United States.
Are you serious? I haven't heard CCP anounce this yet and this is really stupid. What kind of a professional and legit company lets non-employees audit them and look at the details of their operation? None that I can think of. Yes, they may hire an outside firm to do it, but they are professionals, not regular people that play a spacecraft game and take it too seriously. Why would you pay a lot of money to fly non-employees to do something you obviously don't want them to do? This won't save your credibility.
Are you going to pay the people of these committee for their working hours lost? How would they explain this to their boss, "sorry boss but I need to go to Iceland for a couple of weeks to tell some idiots how to run a game" "Are you serious? you're FIRED"
Your lack of intelligence once again surprises me CCP, good job again!
CCP is trying to get (even more) the player involved with the company and your first thing to think is how to explain your boss you need to be out for a couple of days ?? btw does your boss know you play EVE?? beter keep it a secret maybe he's a DEV and if he get mad you may get nerfed ships only for you or maybe you'll get fired because of what you do with your personal time.
P.S- aplly to be a goon you have the pre-required intelect and point of view they want
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Nullity
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.06.07 06:46:00 -
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If you don't have a New York Times account, and don't feel like registering one, use this.
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Alice Cholmondeley
Christine.
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Posted - 2007.06.07 06:48:00 -
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Originally by: illusha Damn that liberal bias! I thought it was a well written article and very funny in some areas.
Quote: So now, in a sociological twist, the company that makes Eve, CCP, based in Iceland (population 300,000), says it will tackle the problem the way a democracy would. In what appears to be a first, the company plans to hold elections so that players can select members of an oversight committee.
Quote: The company will then fly those players to Iceland regularly so they can audit CCP’s operations and report back to their player-constituents. And taking cues from transitions to democracy in the developing world, CCP says it will call in election monitors from universities in Europe and the United States.
Are you serious? I haven't heard CCP anounce this yet and this is really stupid. What kind of a professional and legit company lets non-employees audit them and look at the details of their operation? None that I can think of. Yes, they may hire an outside firm to do it, but they are professionals, not regular people that play a spacecraft game and take it too seriously. Why would you pay a lot of money to fly non-employees to do something you obviously don't want them to do? This won't save your credibility.
Are you going to pay the people of these committee for their working hours lost? How would they explain this to their boss, "sorry boss but I need to go to Iceland for a couple of weeks to tell some idiots how to run a game" "Are you serious? you're FIRED"
Your lack of intelligence once again surprises me CCP, good job again!
You sir, are seriously backward. Try thinking outside of your own boundries for once, you do not have all the wisdom you think you have. |

Alice Cholmondeley
Christine.
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Posted - 2007.06.07 06:49:00 -
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Edited by: Alice Cholmondeley on 07/06/2007 06:48:47
Originally by: Nullity If you don't have a New York Times account, and don't feel like registering one, use this.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/07/arts/07eve.html is the normal link, without the login screen. |

Illyria Ambri
Caldari RennTech
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Posted - 2007.06.07 06:54:00 -
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Not just business admin skills.. would need to be a well rounded choice including programmers and professional bug hunters as thats the part that people will really want to hear about..
------------ This is not War... This is pest control - Dalek Sek
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Ionia
Advanced Manufacturing
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Posted - 2007.06.07 06:55:00 -
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Wow, this is a truly amazing step for CCP. Obviously this shows how much they value their reputation and respect the playerbase. They are willing to go above and beyond what any business would accept as reasonable in a situation like this.
I am totally blown away.
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Nullity
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.06.07 06:55:00 -
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Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley Edited by: Alice Cholmondeley on 07/06/2007 06:48:47
Originally by: Nullity If you don't have a New York Times account, and don't feel like registering one, use this.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/07/arts/07eve.html is the normal link, without the login screen.
Thank you. I find those log in screens incredibly annoying.
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Helox
Gallente Demonic Retribution Pure.
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Posted - 2007.06.07 06:56:00 -
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Edited by: Helox on 07/06/2007 06:54:52 You certainly need a system administrator! 
Yes. I do mean myself. -- the above is my personal opinion and does not necessarily reflect that of the little voices in my head
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Malcanis
High4Life Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.07 06:57:00 -
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This is incredible, as well as unexpected.
Props to CCP for making such a bold move.
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Vorenus16
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Posted - 2007.06.07 06:59:00 -
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Quote: P.S- aplly to be a goon you have the pre-required intelect and point of view they want
I don't think you should be giving advice about INTELLECT if you can't even spell it correctly. Let me do you a favor and fix your sentence so you can seem like you have a little bit of INTELLECT.
P.S- apply to be a goon, you have the pre-required intellect and point of view they want.
Ah yes, much better now. I think BoB needs to have a intellect requirement so they don't recruit ******s like you.
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illusha
Ichiro Edgar Martinez
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Posted - 2007.06.07 06:59:00 -
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I meant to post with my main, Vorenus is my alt.
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Awarrior
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Posted - 2007.06.07 07:04:00 -
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now thank you to all forum warriors that EVE is more popular than ever. Now, all the forum warriors get ready and stage another revolt how EVE is so laggy b/c we have alot more players   
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Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.06.07 07:12:00 -
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Edited by: Kuolematon on 07/06/2007 07:11:03 I will nominate me to travel there because I'm beta2 veteran and CCP owns me IRL cash 
"to be honest it makes me wonder about the mental state of a person who would join a corp called Space Perverts and Forum warriors"
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Tobias Sjodin
Caldari Ore Mongers R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.06.07 07:19:00 -
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Edited by: Tobias Sjodin on 07/06/2007 07:20:48 I liked this quote:
Quote: ôA government canÆt just keep saying, æWe are not corrupt.Æ No one will believe them. Instead you have to create transparency and robust institutions and oversight in order to maintain the confidence of the population.ö
What if we replaced government with CCP? 
I very much liked the ombudsmen idea.
- Recruitment open again-
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Alias11
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.06.07 07:20:00 -
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Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley You sir, are seriously backward. you do not have all the wisdom you think you have.
much like your posting
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