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Sang Raal	Posted - 2007.06.12 17:10:00 - [151] You know, I cant help but wonder, would the punishment have been so swift and harsh had the outed people been Goons...
Elder Bob	Posted - 2007.06.12 17:11:00 - [152] Edited by: Elder Bob on 12/06/2007 17:13:13 Originally by: Prof Weirdo Originally by: M'buku Greetings. I am here representing the 3rd party site in question. All references to internal communications have been removed from the site as per our policy. The email dump was never posted on SHC. All of the events mentioned here are in no way affiliated with SHC nor have they been. Regards M'buku Global Moderator for SHC So...Scrapheap-challenge forums are controlled by BoB. No wonder there is almost no discussion of CCP miss conduct there. Scrapheap challenge is owned by someone who no longer plays Eve, nor has any side in the current conflict. He oversees the moderations. The moderation team consists of 2 BNC members (BoB), 1 Goonfleet member (Goonswarm) and 1 Black Omega Syndicate member (Pandemic Legion) edit: Also, you might want to look how long M'Buku has been in BoB. It's less than 24 hours.
Richard Aiel Caldari The Funkstars Guild	Posted - 2007.06.12 17:12:00 - [153] Originally by: das licht OMG, if I was CCP/DEV I would directly go and speak to the police. That clearly is a criminal act. Where smoke is, there's mostly fire too. Combined with the fact that there is ISK sellers around, you can never know who or what has infiltrated you. And its kinda sad that CCP are still reluctant to bring this breach to the proper authorities.... makes ME wonder what they're hiding... Its the whole idea that if you steal money from someone an someone else steals it from you then you cant really call the cops without the possibility of your theft being discovered. I cant put anything here Im A troublemaker
Elder Bob	Posted - 2007.06.12 17:14:00 - [154] Originally by: Sang Raal You know, I cant help but wonder, would the punishment have been so swift and harsh had the outed people been Goons... The warnings lists published included 3 Goonfleet members. The email archive contained every mail sent to [email protected], and thus included many Goons.
Richard Aiel Caldari The Funkstars Guild	Posted - 2007.06.12 17:17:00 - [155] Originally by: Vando Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu Having read said logs (July '06-April '07) which I downloaded from SHC before it was removed You did not, as these logs were never present on SHC. Please get your facts right. Thats odd... thats where all the guys on someone's forum got them.... In fact theres a thread there titled what happened to the SHC thing? I cant put anything here Im A troublemaker
Elder Bob	Posted - 2007.06.12 17:18:00 - [156] Originally by: Richard Aiel Originally by: Vando Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu Having read said logs (July '06-April '07) which I downloaded from SHC before it was removed You did not, as these logs were never present on SHC. Please get your facts right. Thats odd... thats where all the guys on someone's forum got them.... In fact theres a thread there titled what happened to the SHC thing? See this post
Sang Raal	Posted - 2007.06.12 17:36:00 - [157] Originally by: Elder Bob Edited by: Elder Bob on 12/06/2007 17:31:00 Originally by: Sang Raal You know, I cant help but wonder, would the punishment have been so swift and harsh had the outed people been Goons... The warnings lists published included 3 Goonfleet members, meaning the leaked data was about 15% Goons. The email archive contained every mail sent to [email protected], and thus included many Goons. So these 3 goons were random goons or corp spokesmen on the level of DBP?
Elder Bob	Posted - 2007.06.12 17:42:00 - [158] Originally by: Sang Raal Originally by: Elder Bob Edited by: Elder Bob on 12/06/2007 17:31:00 Originally by: Sang Raal You know, I cant help but wonder, would the punishment have been so swift and harsh had the outed people been Goons... The warnings lists published included 3 Goonfleet members, meaning the leaked data was about 15% Goons. The email archive contained every mail sent to [email protected], and thus included many Goons. So these 3 goons were random goons or corp spokesmen on the level of DBP? All of them were well known members who had either wielded significant power (including an ex-CEO) or become famous for ingame actions in their own right.
Richard Aiel Caldari The Funkstars Guild	Posted - 2007.06.12 17:48:00 - [159] Edited by: Richard Aiel on 12/06/2007 17:50:46 Edited by: Richard Aiel on 12/06/2007 17:47:25 Originally by: Elder Bob Originally by: Richard Aiel Originally by: Vando Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu Having read said logs (July '06-April '07) which I downloaded from SHC before it was removed You did not, as these logs were never present on SHC. Please get your facts right. Thats odd... thats where all the guys on someone's forum got them.... In fact theres a thread there titled what happened to the SHC thing? See this post Ah nvm I misread theres a guy on the forum passing out the file that he got from someone's board Anyhoo... This is a HUGE breach... Imagine what rammifications would happen if an employee from say an insurance company were to leak ppls IRL names, emails etc. to a public forum... im suer that person would be more thabn just fiored... thered damn sure be legal repricussions for that poor idiot... Not to mention the mass exodus that would take place in their customer base because of the erosion of trust in the company. I cant put anything here Im A troublemaker

CCP kieron	Posted - 2007.06.12 17:58:00 - [160] Originally by: Richard Aiel Originally by: das licht OMG, if I was CCP/DEV I would directly go and speak to the police. That clearly is a criminal act. Where smoke is, there's mostly fire too. Combined with the fact that there is ISK sellers around, you can never know who or what has infiltrated you. And its kinda sad that CCP are still reluctant to bring this breach to the proper authorities.... makes ME wonder what they're hiding... Its the whole idea that if you steal money from someone an someone else steals it from you then you cant really call the cops without the possibility of your theft being discovered. As I stated earlier in this thread, CCP is not ruling out the possibility of legal recourse against the leak and it is premature to make any sort of announcement concerning this avenue of action to the community. kieron Community Manager, EVE Online, CCP Games Email/Netfang Look Ma, I'm in a Dev thread! Oh wait...


High Sierra Minmatar The Nest	Posted - 2007.06.12 18:06:00 - [161] I would also like to take this opportunity to say that I dont, in fact, know Derek. He doesnt exist. Furthermore, this isnt for EvE-O, so stop it. You're just going to confuse the trolls. snip please keep sigs EVE-related. Contact [email protected] if you have any further questions - Karass Sayfo I don't know Derek. Really I don't.
M'buku Minmatar Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.06.12 18:12:00 - [162] Originally by: Prof Weirdo Originally by: M'buku Greetings. I am here representing the 3rd party site in question. All references to internal communications have been removed from the site as per our policy. The email dump was never posted on SHC. All of the events mentioned here are in no way affiliated with SHC nor have they been. Regards M'buku Global Moderator for SHC So...Scrapheap-challenge forums are controlled by BoB. No wonder there is almost no discussion of CCP miss conduct there. You sir really need to look into things a little more before you log on your alt trolling machine. I have been a member of BoB and BNC for aproximately 24hrs. Before which I was in my own corp for 3 months then before than I was a member of AAA. When I was first offered the job of moderator on SHC I was in fact a member of D2. Blacklight is our other moderator whi is a BoB member. He was invited to become a moderator only very recectly. The reason we have a policy of not allowing open and uncontrolled discussion of cetain CCP related topics on SHC is because it attracts people just like yourself. If however you choose to read SHC and have an issue with the moderation there, you are free to contact any of the moderation team or Calmdown the site owner. Regards M'buku Global Moderator SHC
Gavin Inzutaku EntroPraetorian WraithTemplars EntroPraetorian Aegis	Posted - 2007.06.12 18:28:00 - [163] I think it's pretty silly that people think that the ISD/Mod emails that were leaked aren't already out circulating. I myself have a copy of the .zip file. Will I read it? No. Will I hold onto it? Yes. If someone like me was able to get my hands on something like this by merely inquiring, who else doesn't have access to this and have nefarious means for its use. It's bound to happen, seeing the previous chaos caused by recent events. meh --------------------------------------------------- Research and Development: Building a better world for a price.
das licht Gallente	Posted - 2007.06.12 18:34:00 - [164] Originally by: CCP kieron Originally by: Richard Aiel Originally by: das licht OMG, if I was CCP/DEV I would directly go and speak to the police. That clearly is a criminal act. Where smoke is, there's mostly fire too. Combined with the fact that there is ISK sellers around, you can never know who or what has infiltrated you. And its kinda sad that CCP are still reluctant to bring this breach to the proper authorities.... makes ME wonder what they're hiding... Its the whole idea that if you steal money from someone an someone else steals it from you then you cant really call the cops without the possibility of your theft being discovered. As I stated earlier in this thread, CCP is not ruling out the possibility of legal recourse against the leak and it is premature to make any sort of announcement concerning this avenue of action to the community. That's okay kieron. Just don't take it too easy. EVE is one wonderful game and due to its game money and thousands of customers, also a target of some folks you better stay away from ... all my impression and speculation off course.
Ron White	Posted - 2007.06.12 18:42:00 - [165] Edited by: Ron White on 12/06/2007 18:53:49 Edited by: Ron White on 12/06/2007 18:45:49 Edited by: Ron White on 12/06/2007 18:43:45 Originally by: Gavin Inzutaku I think it's pretty silly that people think that the ISD/Mod emails that were leaked aren't already out circulating. I myself have a copy of the .zip file. Will I read it? No. Will I hold onto it? Yes. If someone like me was able to get my hands on something like this by merely inquiring, who else doesn't have access to this and have nefarious means for its use. It's bound to happen, seeing the previous chaos caused by recent events. meh I may be all kinds of antibob and anti-ccp but handing out ppls IRL info like its candy is a bit much.... Ppl on someone's website are handing the dl out like its nothing >.< And the posting of semi-censored versions of the emails are starting to occur of that site as well theres a lot of or by DB Preacher that ive seen mostly by him than about him Id make a direct link to this quote but itd get snipped cause thr forum isnt allowed on this forum but: "hehehe this is great. everyone that wanted it is armed with these emails now. it's like giving guns to 6 yr olds and telling em to have fun. oh the abuse that will be had." Ppl like THIS have that download... and possibly MY IRL info and possibly YOUR IRL info :( "You cant fix stupid"
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.06.12 18:44:00 - [166] Originally by: Ron White Originally by: Gavin Inzutaku I think it's pretty silly that people think that the ISD/Mod emails that were leaked aren't already out circulating. I myself have a copy of the .zip file. Will I read it? No. Will I hold onto it? Yes. If someone like me was able to get my hands on something like this by merely inquiring, who else doesn't have access to this and have nefarious means for its use. It's bound to happen, seeing the previous chaos caused by recent events. meh I may be all kinds of antibob and anti-ccp but handing out ppls IRL info like its candy is a bit much.... Ppl on someone's website are handing the dl out like its nothing >.< It wouldn't matter. Once people have a file, it will spread, regardless of whether the websites are taken down. 23 Member EVE Video makers: save EVE-files bandwidth! Use the H.264 AutoEncoder!
Borasao	Posted - 2007.06.12 19:12:00 - [167] Quote: I have been a member of BoB and BNC for aproximately 24hrs. Before which I was in my own corp for 3 months then before than I was a member of AAA. So... BoB/BNC just spontaneously invited you into their fold and you had no prior knowledge or leanings towards them... You just got an invite out of the blue and said "what the heck".
Mecinia Lua Galactic Express Frontier Trade League	Posted - 2007.06.12 19:16:00 - [168] Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: Ron White Originally by: Gavin Inzutaku I think it's pretty silly that people think that the ISD/Mod emails that were leaked aren't already out circulating. I myself have a copy of the .zip file. Will I read it? No. Will I hold onto it? Yes. If someone like me was able to get my hands on something like this by merely inquiring, who else doesn't have access to this and have nefarious means for its use. It's bound to happen, seeing the previous chaos caused by recent events. meh I may be all kinds of antibob and anti-ccp but handing out ppls IRL info like its candy is a bit much.... Ppl on someone's website are handing the dl out like its nothing >.< It wouldn't matter. Once people have a file, it will spread, regardless of whether the websites are taken down. Exactly, its to late. The problem is that CCP has been far to lax with their information, and with the hiring of employees and volunteers, far to lax. That's what has led to this latest faux pas. The damage is already done. I can't remember if I've ever mailed the mods or not :(, probably at some point just can't recall when. Pretty much if you've used the same email address for different characters in mailing the mods, then it is likely someone somewhere is going to publish a list of your alts. Which is kinda sad. No doubt this is going to be used to harass folks at home and work. I've read herein that there were some phone numbers. If you know someone's phone number, expecially in the United States it takes less than 5 minutes to get their address assuming its not unlisted. (Though why anyone would put their phone number in an email I don't know :( ) The greatest danger is that rivalries that have arisen in game which have resulted in much anger and hatred could spill over into real life using the data which has been compromised. It doesn't matter that it was a volunteer that did it, it doesn't matter that it was posted on Kugutsumen's site first, it doesn't matter that the volunteer was fired immediately (though that does show an effort on CCP to ***** down), and it doesn't matter that all his accounts was banned. If the leaked information causes real life harm, either physical or emotional to anyone who's data was mishandled, they have grounds to sue CCP. It could well destroy the game. I would ask anyone that has this data, no matter what side you are on, to delete it. There is no good that can come out of it, and using it could make yourself also liable through legal action. I realise some will not listen, but you are talking about information that could potentially if traced to you in the event something awful happened could literally ruin your life forever, financially, spiratually, and emotionally. Think about it, is it worth it. The answer is no its not. Get rid of it now, before any harm is done. Don't give it to friends or anyone. Destroy it while you can, before any greater harm is done. CCP should take it upon themselves to review every single mail, IA should do this. They should then mail every person that has been affected. Alert them to the exact nature of any data that was compromised. This is something CCP should be responsible for, not a player or volunteer. The more copies there are out there, the greater the danger of misuse. Thoughts expressed are mine and mine alone. They do not necessarily reflect my alliances thoughts.
Takahashi Arran coracao ardente Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.06.12 19:17:00 - [169] Originally by: Dark Shikari It wouldn't matter. Once people have a file, it will spread, regardless of whether the websites are taken down. You can't censor the internet . Once something has been seen it permanently exists. This is because by design all data exists to be copied. The people leaked in those e-mails will have to come to terms with the fact that they're personal data was leaked and chose wether to wear a red coat or a black coat. Privacy died with invention of the internet its just that it will take the world a while to realise this.
Major Stormer Caldari Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.06.12 19:17:00 - [170] Edited by: Major Stormer on 12/06/2007 19:16:36 Originally by: Borasao Quote: I have been a member of BoB and BNC for aproximately 24hrs. Before which I was in my own corp for 3 months then before than I was a member of AAA. So... BoB/BNC just spontaneously invited you into their fold and you had no prior knowledge or leanings towards them... You just got an invite out of the blue and said "what the heck". When you are a member of the SHC forums, ingame ties stay at the door. You are treated as a out of game eve player, unlike the eve forums where you are treated due to your ingame ties (no doubt as a result of char names, and corp and alliance tags). Its a very interesting difference, and provides for unique viewpoints. --------- Its just a game. Get over yourselfs. www.eve-tribune.com Dont get too excited now.

Prof Weirdo	Posted - 2007.06.12 19:29:00 - [171] Originally by: Elder Bob Edited by: Elder Bob on 12/06/2007 17:15:53 Edited by: Elder Bob on 12/06/2007 17:13:13 Originally by: Prof Weirdo Originally by: M'buku Greetings. I am here representing the 3rd party site in question. All references to internal communications have been removed from the site as per our policy. The email dump was never posted on SHC. All of the events mentioned here are in no way affiliated with SHC nor have they been. Regards M'buku Global Moderator for SHC So...Scrapheap-challenge forums are controlled by BoB. No wonder there is almost no discussion of CCP miss conduct there. Scrapheap challenge is owned by someone who no longer plays Eve, nor has any side in the current conflict. He oversees the moderations. The moderation team consists of 2 BNC members (BoB), 1 Goonfleet member (Goonswarm) and 1 Black Omega Syndicate member (Pandemic Legion) The posts removed from SHC on this topic were removed by the Goonfleet member. edit: Also, you might want to look how long M'Buku has been in BoB. It's less than 24 hours. Stating that two of the four moderators at SHC are members of BOB and two are not does not bolster your case that SHC is unbiased toward BoB. SHC is one of the few boards that censor all discussion of BOB and CCP linkage.
Isyel Minmatar Queens of the Stone Age Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.06.12 19:34:00 - [172] Originally by: Prof Weirdo Originally by: Elder Bob Edited by: Elder Bob on 12/06/2007 17:15:53 Edited by: Elder Bob on 12/06/2007 17:13:13 Originally by: Prof Weirdo Originally by: M'buku Greetings. I am here representing the 3rd party site in question. All references to internal communications have been removed from the site as per our policy. The email dump was never posted on SHC. All of the events mentioned here are in no way affiliated with SHC nor have they been. Regards M'buku Global Moderator for SHC So...Scrapheap-challenge forums are controlled by BoB. No wonder there is almost no discussion of CCP miss conduct there. Scrapheap challenge is owned by someone who no longer plays Eve, nor has any side in the current conflict. He oversees the moderations. The moderation team consists of 2 BNC members (BoB), 1 Goonfleet member (Goonswarm) and 1 Black Omega Syndicate member (Pandemic Legion) The posts removed from SHC on this topic were removed by the Goonfleet member. edit: Also, you might want to look how long M'Buku has been in BoB. It's less than 24 hours. Stating that two of the four moderators at SHC are members of BOB and two are not does not bolster your case that SHC is unbiased toward BoB. SHC is one of the few boards that censor all discussion of BOB and CCP linkage. You people really ARE clueless morons. And i thought the myths were false! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Originally by: Wrangler We don't want to discriminate anyone! We want both anti-social and social players to grief each other!
Prof Weirdo	Posted - 2007.06.12 19:35:00 - [173] Originally by: M'buku Originally by: Prof Weirdo Originally by: M'buku Greetings. I am here representing the 3rd party site in question. All references to internal communications have been removed from the site as per our policy. The email dump was never posted on SHC. All of the events mentioned here are in no way affiliated with SHC nor have they been. Regards M'buku Global Moderator for SHC So...Scrapheap-challenge forums are controlled by BoB. No wonder there is almost no discussion of CCP miss conduct there. You sir really need to look into things a little more before you log on your alt trolling machine. I have been a member of BoB and BNC for aproximately 24hrs. Before which I was in my own corp for 3 months then before than I was a member of AAA. When I was first offered the job of moderator on SHC I was in fact a member of D2. Blacklight is our other moderator whi is a BoB member. He was invited to become a moderator only very recectly. The reason we have a policy of not allowing open and uncontrolled discussion of cetain CCP related topics on SHC is because it attracts people just like yourself. If however you choose to read SHC and have an issue with the moderation there, you are free to contact any of the moderation team or Calmdown the site owner. Regards M'buku Global Moderator SHC I don't bother reading forums that are censored for content. Restricting profanity and excessive trolling is ok though. You have gone far beyond that sir!!
Elder Bob	Posted - 2007.06.12 19:35:00 - [174] Originally by: Prof Weirdo Originally by: Elder Bob Edited by: Elder Bob on 12/06/2007 17:15:53 Edited by: Elder Bob on 12/06/2007 17:13:13 Originally by: Prof Weirdo Originally by: M'buku Greetings. I am here representing the 3rd party site in question. All references to internal communications have been removed from the site as per our policy. The email dump was never posted on SHC. All of the events mentioned here are in no way affiliated with SHC nor have they been. Regards M'buku Global Moderator for SHC So...Scrapheap-challenge forums are controlled by BoB. No wonder there is almost no discussion of CCP miss conduct there. Scrapheap challenge is owned by someone who no longer plays Eve, nor has any side in the current conflict. He oversees the moderations. The moderation team consists of 2 BNC members (BoB), 1 Goonfleet member (Goonswarm) and 1 Black Omega Syndicate member (Pandemic Legion) The posts removed from SHC on this topic were removed by the Goonfleet member. edit: Also, you might want to look how long M'Buku has been in BoB. It's less than 24 hours. Stating that two of the four moderators at SHC are members of BOB and two are not does not bolster your case that SHC is unbiased toward BoB. SHC is one of the few boards that censor all discussion of BOB and CCP linkage. OK, look at it this way. 2 of the 4 mods are either in GoonSwarm or Pandemic Legion (the only alliance with closer links to Kugutsumen than Goonswarm). Jesus, SHC must be a tinfoil paradise. Oh wait.
Frygok Minmatar Mean Anglo-Danes	Posted - 2007.06.12 19:36:00 - [175] Originally by: Prof Weirdo Originally by: Elder Bob Edited by: Elder Bob on 12/06/2007 17:15:53 Edited by: Elder Bob on 12/06/2007 17:13:13 Originally by: Prof Weirdo Originally by: M'buku Greetings. I am here representing the 3rd party site in question. All references to internal communications have been removed from the site as per our policy. The email dump was never posted on SHC. All of the events mentioned here are in no way affiliated with SHC nor have they been. Regards M'buku Global Moderator for SHC So...Scrapheap-challenge forums are controlled by BoB. No wonder there is almost no discussion of CCP miss conduct there. Scrapheap challenge is owned by someone who no longer plays Eve, nor has any side in the current conflict. He oversees the moderations. The moderation team consists of 2 BNC members (BoB), 1 Goonfleet member (Goonswarm) and 1 Black Omega Syndicate member (Pandemic Legion) The posts removed from SHC on this topic were removed by the Goonfleet member. edit: Also, you might want to look how long M'Buku has been in BoB. It's less than 24 hours. Stating that two of the four moderators at SHC are members of BOB and two are not does not bolster your case that SHC is unbiased toward BoB. SHC is one of the few boards that censor all discussion of BOB and CCP linkage. Luckily, the mods of SHC does not need to proof anything to you about their bias. As someone who doesn't post very much, but is an avid reader of said community, I have yet to find any bias whatsoever toward any in-game alliance. And the fact that you think it censors all BOB and CCP linkage discussions is just a testament to your ignorance, and not a bias on the SHC. Now, have fun trolling.
mazzilliu Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.06.12 20:02:00 - [176] Edited by: mazzilliu on 12/06/2007 20:02:27 anyone who tries to negatively affect someone's RL due to this stupid game is a humongous *********got. this is stupid goddamnit stop it stop it stop it stop it stop it. someone being a * in a game doesnt justify anything out of a game for **s sake edit - oh yeah, and devs should register on SHC. maybe they'll even find some threads that aren't whines about highsec ganking
FooB2 Caldari Chaos Reborn	Posted - 2007.06.12 20:16:00 - [177] Originally by: Prof Weirdo Stating that two of the four moderators at SHC are members of BOB and two are not does not bolster your case that SHC is unbiased toward BoB. SHC is one of the few boards that censor all discussion of BOB and CCP linkage. two out of the four? there are more than 4 mods on SHC. did you perhaps fail to mention the quantity of goons that post on SHC? i think you did. I would kindly stake my reputation on the fact that SHC is probably one of the VERY few (if not only) places that you will find unbiased conversation and discussion between anybody in play(ed)s EVE. As has been said, your ingame ties are left at the door, and if you refuse to do that then you will be left at the door as well. and there is nothing more to it. Please feel free to make your baseless comments about us, because they have no worth. If anyone were to stroll into SHC and take a look at our most popular thread (GBBS) you will find all the proof you need that there is NOONE who posts biased, with propaganda or ANY of that kind of stuff, because as a community we understand there is simply no need for it. And that community consists of ALL sides in the "conflict". high-ups in bob, goons, iac, blah blah blah you name it. even DBP posts sensibly there. As for the whole mistaken hosting of the leaked emails thing, if it has not been said enough already we did not at all link or host the e-mails, and any content relating to internal CRC communcae was removed, as soon as it was requested. Unfortunatley, i fear people mistakingly linking us to a "certain site" has attracted the wrong attention from the wrong kind of people and i can only hope the damage is minimal. I thank kieron for publically announcing his acknowledgment of the nature of our (non)involvment. Your signature image exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo
Elder Bob	Posted - 2007.06.12 20:28:00 - [178] Originally by: FooB2 two out of the four? there are more than 4 mods on SHC. There are only four who can moderate Eve related forums
Rock Raper	Posted - 2007.06.12 20:45:00 - [179] Originally by: Frygok Originally by: Prof Weirdo Originally by: Elder Bob Edited by: Elder Bob on 12/06/2007 17:15:53 Edited by: Elder Bob on 12/06/2007 17:13:13 Originally by: Prof Weirdo Originally by: M'buku Greetings. I am here representing the 3rd party site in question. All references to internal communications have been removed from the site as per our policy. The email dump was never posted on SHC. All of the events mentioned here are in no way affiliated with SHC nor have they been. Regards M'buku Global Moderator for SHC So...Scrapheap-challenge forums are controlled by BoB. No wonder there is almost no discussion of CCP miss conduct there. Scrapheap challenge is owned by someone who no longer plays Eve, nor has any side in the current conflict. He oversees the moderations. The moderation team consists of 2 BNC members (BoB), 1 Goonfleet member (Goonswarm) and 1 Black Omega Syndicate member (Pandemic Legion) The posts removed from SHC on this topic were removed by the Goonfleet member. edit: Also, you might want to look how long M'Buku has been in BoB. It's less than 24 hours. Stating that two of the four moderators at SHC are members of BOB and two are not does not bolster your case that SHC is unbiased toward BoB. SHC is one of the few boards that censor all discussion of BOB and CCP linkage. Luckily, the mods of SHC does not need to proof anything to you about their bias. As someone who doesn't post very much, but is an avid reader of said community, I have yet to find any bias whatsoever toward any in-game alliance. And the fact that you think it censors all BOB and CCP linkage discussions is just a testament to your ignorance, and not a bias on the SHC. Now, have fun trolling. Whats the address for this place? Id like to see an unbiased opinion... not like here and DEFINATELY not like K's forum If you see ME posting Ive made a mistake >.<
rodgerd Queens of the Stone Age Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.06.12 20:45:00 - [180] Originally by: Prof Weirdo Stating that two of the four moderators at SHC are members of BOB and two are not does not bolster your case that SHC is unbiased toward BoB. SHC is one of the few boards that censor all discussion of BOB and CCP linkage. I shouldn't take the bait, I suppose, and I don't really participate in SHC anymore (since I got sick of the Goon mod pinktexting me whenever I disagreed with him), but SHC doesn't allow discussion of the various CCP-inappropriate-behaviour scandals because it attracts halfwits who sign up for the sole purpose of spamming SHC with their pro/antiBoB feelings. SHC was started and continues to have at its core a focus on ship setups, tactics, and game mechanics. Not CAOD style politics, and it tries, not always successfully, to steer clear of those. Banning discussion of contentious non-play related issues that people just get their panties wadded over is one way of achieving that goal. -- Not the opinions of my corp or my alliance.



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