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Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.06.13 02:59:00 - [211] Edited by: Dark Shikari on 13/06/2007 02:59:54 Originally by: Mud Pandemonium Originally by: Dark Shikari I've read through a good percentage of it and I have not seen any phone numbers or addresses. 95% of it is just forum warnings and bans. Why would someone send their real-life address to CCP in a forum moderator email? Do you even pay any attention to what you say? At 2007.06.13 01:38:00 you stated there was phone contact information. At 2007.06.13 01:53:00 in another thread you stated there was NOT. I said as far as I had read, there was none. I was told by someone else that there was one, single phone number in the whole thing, however I have not seen it and therefore I'd be lying to say I had. Do you really think a single phone number is a huge deal? One single number that can be changed with a single call to a phone company? Are you seriously telling me that one number matters in comparison to thousands of names and emails?!?!?! That's like saying that it matters more that a hurricane killed one person than it matters that the hurricane leveled a city. 23 Member EVE Video makers: save EVE-files bandwidth! Use the H.264 AutoEncoder!
Damon Ra Caldari	Posted - 2007.06.13 03:05:00 - [212] Originally by: Dark Shikari Are you seriously telling me that one number matters in comparison to thousands of names and emails?!?!?! That's like saying that it matters more that a hurricane killed one person than it matters that the hurricane leveled a city. Or it's like saying that 1 part per thousand concentration of nerve gas in drinking water is "safe". The point being, there should not be any nerve gas in the drinking water, who determines what is "safe" for me? Current Tranquility status: SELECT production_code FROM SISI WHERE testers = 'players' AND testers <> 'ccp_staff' AND testing_duration <> 'sufficient';
NightF0x Gallente principle of motion Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.06.13 03:10:00 - [213] Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 13/06/2007 02:59:54 Originally by: Mud Pandemonium Originally by: Dark Shikari I've read through a good percentage of it and I have not seen any phone numbers or addresses. 95% of it is just forum warnings and bans. Why would someone send their real-life address to CCP in a forum moderator email? Do you even pay any attention to what you say? At 2007.06.13 01:38:00 you stated there was phone contact information. At 2007.06.13 01:53:00 in another thread you stated there was NOT. I said as far as I had read, there was none. I was told by someone else that there was one, single phone number in the whole thing, however I have not seen it and therefore I'd be lying to say I had. Do you really think a single phone number is a huge deal? One single number that can be changed with a single call to a phone company? Are you seriously telling me that one number matters in comparison to thousands of names and emails?!?!?! That's like saying that it matters more that a hurricane killed one person than it matters that the hurricane leveled a city. personal information can be gathered from a single email address so don't try to play it off as meaningless information that was leaked.
Mud Pandemonium Minmatar Brutor tribe	Posted - 2007.06.13 03:14:00 - [214] Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 13/06/2007 02:59:54 Originally by: Mud Pandemonium Originally by: Dark Shikari I've read through a good percentage of it and I have not seen any phone numbers or addresses. 95% of it is just forum warnings and bans. Why would someone send their real-life address to CCP in a forum moderator email? Do you even pay any attention to what you say? At 2007.06.13 01:38:00 you stated there was phone contact information. At 2007.06.13 01:53:00 in another thread you stated there was NOT. I said as far as I had read, there was none. I was told by someone else that there was one, single phone number in the whole thing, however I have not seen it and therefore I'd be lying to say I had. Do you really think a single phone number is a huge deal? One single number that can be changed with a single call to a phone company? Are you seriously telling me that one number matters in comparison to thousands of names and emails?!?!?! That's like saying that it matters more that a hurricane killed one person than it matters that the hurricane leveled a city. Are you on glue? Someone having to change their phone number is a huge deal, you have to contact all your professional contacts, you have to get new business cards printed, you have to do an incredible amount of work. Not all phone companies leave an automated message giving the new number. Nice strawman by the way. In what reality do you live in where personal information given to a company under a strict agreement of privacy is not a big deal? Please, think before you post. We had our words, a common spat. So I kissed him upside the cranium with an aluminum baseball bat. My name is Mud.
Rock Raper	Posted - 2007.06.13 03:22:00 - [215] Originally by: Rock Raper Edited by: Rock Raper on 13/06/2007 02:24:36 Honestly, I wouldnt want ppl from this forum or hell ESPECIALLY the other forums having MY phone number... Im listed in the US which means that if someone got that, theyd have my address. Having THAT would worry me greatly and Id likely have to quit playing as Id be worried about whoever getting ****ed at what Im saying or what Im doing in game and bveat my head in with a baseball bat.... An dont say "ppl are smarter than that" or "ppl know the difference between IRL and game" cause im damn sure that there are some here that dont Quoting myself to show Dark Shikari at least PART of why it IS a big deal even if its JUST one number... How would you like it if it were yer number and someone found out where you lived and did something bad to yer house or yer stuff?? You WOULDNT. If you see ME posting Ive made a mistake >.<
Mud Pandemonium Minmatar Brutor tribe	Posted - 2007.06.13 03:29:00 - [216] What I think Dark Shikari fails to realize is that any personal information leaked is bad. Not everyone uses throwaway hotmail accounts to converse with CCP/ISD, some of us use e-mail accounts that are for business purposes only. I'm an injured worker so I spend most of my at my apartment these days. However I do use my e-mail address for consulting work for companies building Flushby/Swamper units. As such my e-mail is connected to several business profiles. If someone in game were to find my e-mail address on one of the many internet business profiles they would be access to my home phone, my cellular, my mailing address etc. People who read business profiles have no intent to be malicious, however someone in game who knows my e-mail could ransom me now. "Give me X amounts of ISK or I mailbomb your inbox", there are also websites that you simply input a persons e-mail address and it signs them up for almost every newsletter known to man. I simply cannot deal with something like that given that my e-mail is used for business/financial purposes. Dark Shikari, you can keep trying to say this isn't a big deal, but sooner or later you'll move out into the real world and realize that information is power, any information. We had our words, a common spat. So I kissed him upside the cranium with an aluminum baseball bat. My name is Mud.
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.06.13 03:58:00 - [217] Edited by: Dark Shikari on 13/06/2007 04:00:16 Originally by: Mud Pandemonium What I think Dark Shikari fails to realize is that any personal information leaked is bad. Are you people blind??? I'm making a massive deal about the leaked personal information, where in the world is the idea coming from that I think its not a big deal? Do I have to put up max-size text explaining how I think its a big deal? I think the leaking of all these emails and names is a REALLY BIG DEAL!!!!! Are you happy now? Have I gotten the point across yet!? Honestly I feel like I'm talking to a wall; I spend pages and pages posting about this and people still don't think that I think its a big deal! I think its a big enough deal that I've gone out of my way to notify dozens of people whose emails and names were leaked and offer a free service to help anyone find whether their names/emails were leaked or not. What I'm saying is that thousands of leaked emails and names is a huge deal, and a single phone number pales by comparison: we have to deal with the big picture, not a single phone number here. There is no point in spending pages and pages ranting over a single phone number when thousands of people now have their names and emails made public. 23 Member EVE Video makers: save EVE-files bandwidth! Use the H.264 AutoEncoder!
Mud Pandemonium Minmatar Brutor tribe	Posted - 2007.06.13 04:08:00 - [218] Shikari, do you even pay attention to what you post? This page alone you've stated that one phone number being leaked isn't a big deal. Most of your comments have been to downplay this entire thing. I'm done with this thread Shikari, I was wary about calling you out on a few points in the first place as I've seen how you conduct yourself in the past. I was warned by a few people not to try and talk sense in to you or point out flaws in your logic and arguments. That anything I say will ultimately fall on deaf ears. Enjoy your thread Shikari, and keep policing EVE-O, you're doing a fantastic job trying to run the forums. We had our words, a common spat. So I kissed him upside the cranium with an aluminum baseball bat. My name is Mud.
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.06.13 04:09:00 - [219] Edited by: Dark Shikari on 13/06/2007 04:10:26 Originally by: Mud Pandemonium Shikari, do you even pay attention to what you post? This page alone you've stated that one phone number being leaked isn't a big deal. Most of your comments have been to downplay this entire thing. I'm done with this thread Shikari, I was wary about calling you out on a few points in the first place as I've seen how you conduct yourself in the past. I was warned by a few people not to try and talk sense in to you or point out flaws in your logic and arguments. That anything I say will ultimately fall on deaf ears. Enjoy your thread Shikari, and keep policing EVE-O, you're doing a fantastic job trying to run the forums. A single phone number is not a big deal in comparison to thousands of released emails. You are trying to derail this thread into a pointless discussion about a single phone number when there are thousands of people out there with leaked emails and names. Why do people seem incapable of taking this sort of thing seriously? No, its not as bad as the recent examples in the US of the various companies and governments leaking thousands of social security numbers and vastly more sensitive information, but considering the reaction I've gotten from some people I know upon informing them that their email had been leaked... I don't think the importance of this can be underestimated either. Its absurd that threads like this on such important topics are ruined by people who want nothing better than to turn it into an argument. 23 Member EVE Video makers: save EVE-files bandwidth! Use the H.264 AutoEncoder!
Moonlight Express Amarr Moonlight Express Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.13 04:57:00 - [220] Originally by: NightF0x Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 13/06/2007 02:59:54 Originally by: Mud Pandemonium Originally by: Dark Shikari I've read through a good percentage of it and I have not seen any phone numbers or addresses. 95% of it is just forum warnings and bans. Why would someone send their real-life address to CCP in a forum moderator email? Do you even pay any attention to what you say? At 2007.06.13 01:38:00 you stated there was phone contact information. At 2007.06.13 01:53:00 in another thread you stated there was NOT. I said as far as I had read, there was none. I was told by someone else that there was one, single phone number in the whole thing, however I have not seen it and therefore I'd be lying to say I had. Do you really think a single phone number is a huge deal? One single number that can be changed with a single call to a phone company? Are you seriously telling me that one number matters in comparison to thousands of names and emails?!?!?! That's like saying that it matters more that a hurricane killed one person than it matters that the hurricane leveled a city. personal information can be gathered from a single email address so don't try to play it off as meaningless information that was leaked. Where was your outrage when a well-known hacker stole from multiple alliances thousands of their email and IP addresses? Did you registered to his web site and are reading info that he was able to hack? That does not bother you at all, does it? Because I didn't see you raising a stink about it. Maybe you should stop supporting the criminals before executing the policemen because they could not stop the crime.

Stahlregen GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.06.13 05:15:00 - [221] Edited by: Stahlregen on 13/06/2007 05:17:55 Edited by: Stahlregen on 13/06/2007 05:16:03 It's pretty obvious that Dark Sharkari leaked the emails himself. Everyone already knows that he holds a volunteer position at CCP and has been the most vocal person on this matter, by a very, very wide margin mind you. Dark Sharkari has already contradicted himself numerous times throughout this thread, Hell, he even does it on this page. One minute the leak isn't a big a deal and CCP are the bastions of all that is good in the world, incapable of putting a foot wrong- the next he's going on about how he's been digging through the leak and notifying anyone who has had their personal information revealed because it's JUST THAT SERIOUS GUYZ. I find this a little hard to believe and i think that it's more likely he's just digging up dirt on his enemies. His confusing and loud mouthed flip flopping is intended for nothing more than not quite so subtle hand waving and the vilification of those who would like to expose the nasty side of CCP, which you will find he does in every single thread that even hints at CCP being a dishonest and corrupt company- even when the evidence is as plain to see as it is here. I myself haven't seen emails as it doesn't concern me beyond the fact that it is yet more evidence of CCP's incompetence. Don't listen to Dark Sharkari, He's one of CCP's PR guys. edit: Or at the very least vying for Kieron's spot when they realise he doesn't know what he is doing.
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.06.13 05:20:00 - [222] Edited by: Dark Shikari on 13/06/2007 05:19:24 Originally by: Stahlregen It's pretty obvious that Dark Sharkari leaked the emails himself. Everyone already knows that he holds a volunteer position at CCP and has been the most vocal person on this matter, by a very, very wide margin mind you. Dark Sharkari has already contradicted himself numerous times throughout this thread, Hell, he even does it on this page. One minute the leak isn't a big a deal and CCP are the bastions of all that is good in the world, incapable of putting a foot wrong- the next he's going on about how he's been digging through the leak and notifying anyone who has had their personal information revealed because it's JUST THAT SERIOUS GUYZ. I find this a little hard to believe and i think that it's more likely he's just digging up dirt on his enemies. His confusing and loud mouthed flip flopping is intended for nothing more than not quite so subtle hand waving and the vilification of those who would like to expose the nasty side of CCP, which you will find he does in every single thread that even hints at CCP being a dishonest and corrupt company- even when the evidence is as plain to see as it is here. I myself haven't seen emails as it doesn't concern me beyond the fact that it is yet more evidence of CCP's incompetence. Don't listen to Dark Sharkari, He's one of CCP's PR guys. edit: Or at the very least vying for Kieron's spot when they realise he doesn't know what he is doing. Not bad. I laughed. 7/10. 23 Member EVE Video makers: save EVE-files bandwidth! Use the H.264 AutoEncoder!
Sazumaan Johnza Minmatar Skill Level Six Ground Zeero	Posted - 2007.06.13 05:26:00 - [223] CCP, perhaps look appointing a Chief Privacy Officer to sort out the processes and keep things together on this front? Here some info I found: The Chief Privacy Officer (CPO) is a senior level executive within a business or organization who is responsible for managing the risks and business impacts of privacy laws and policies. Why Your Company Needs a Chief Privacy Officer - In this era of data breaches and identity theft, chief privacy officers working hand in hand with security groups play a crucial if little-known role in protecting identifiable personal information. Given the growing concern over information privacy abuse, potential lawsuits, and threats of increased government privacy legislation, an increasing number of firms are resorting to Chief Privacy Officers (CPOs) as a means to cope with information privacy. Example: As IBM's chief privacy officer, Harriet Pearson oversees IBM's policies for gathering, sharing and using personal information from customers and employees. This high-level concern for privacy is a direct result of the Internet's explosive growth. Once used only for "surfing", the Web has become a destination for shopping, bankingùeven looking after our health and relationships. As the details of our lives accumulate in other people's databases, privacy has become a source of consumer anxietyùand corporate concern. ISD guys, can you make someone of importance in CCP aware of this information, if they aren't already thinking about doing this? "Eve is more filling than roast steaks slowly grilling over a rotating fire whilst marinating in a combination of Australian fruity wines and the best imported herbs..." - SChimera [16.4.07]
Stahlregen GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.06.13 05:28:00 - [224] Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 13/06/2007 05:19:24 Originally by: Stahlregen It's pretty obvious that Dark Sharkari leaked the emails himself. Everyone already knows that he holds a volunteer position at CCP and has been the most vocal person on this matter, by a very, very wide margin mind you. Dark Sharkari has already contradicted himself numerous times throughout this thread, Hell, he even does it on this page. One minute the leak isn't a big a deal and CCP are the bastions of all that is good in the world, incapable of putting a foot wrong- the next he's going on about how he's been digging through the leak and notifying anyone who has had their personal information revealed because it's JUST THAT SERIOUS GUYZ. I find this a little hard to believe and i think that it's more likely he's just digging up dirt on his enemies. His confusing and loud mouthed flip flopping is intended for nothing more than not quite so subtle hand waving and the vilification of those who would like to expose the nasty side of CCP, which you will find he does in every single thread that even hints at CCP being a dishonest and corrupt company- even when the evidence is as plain to see as it is here. I myself haven't seen emails as it doesn't concern me beyond the fact that it is yet more evidence of CCP's incompetence. Don't listen to Dark Sharkari, He's one of CCP's PR guys. edit: Or at the very least vying for Kieron's spot when they realise he doesn't know what he is doing. Not bad. I laughed. 7/10. See, This is what i'm talking about. The foundations of his views and arguments are so completely eroded already he can only retort with that cliched and "out-of-10-score" which i have only ever seen on these forums but hey, No big surprise there right?
Esurnir Amarr Bears Inc FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.13 05:50:00 - [225] Most likely the info release are only what people willingly disclosed to isd. Stuff like : FROM : Dominique de Villepin <[email protected]> TO : [email protected] Hey isd, I just spotted a big trollfest here : http://myeve.... Love you all Emrod Stuff that your email disclose because you normally use it for IRL discussion. (I don't even talk about signing with your real first name). ---- Quote: Thou shall pew pew. Book of Revelation 12, 51
Esurnir Amarr Bears Inc FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.13 06:23:00 - [226] From personal experience as an ex-mod in a big bulletin board ( http://forums.jeuxonline.info for those interested ). Here is a testimony about what mod can learn about user Y : We got on this bulletin board quite a few tool. First every user got a "file" at his name. This file which is because of privacy concern avaible to the member contain the records of misdeameanour of the user. In one category are the "edits" we made on this user. Every single edit we had to make (to remove personal attack troll flame *** picture and whatever you can imagine) would include to copy and paste the original post of the user in this file. Some note like "Pm about the innapropriate signature sent" can also be included. In the file there is a separate section for "action" took against the user. Action include stuff like "removing sig" (we couldn't "hack" sig like isd, we had a the "modopowa" tools that removed it from the user), warn the user (send a warning by pm and email), suspend the account for X hours. Ban account. etc. etc. The policy was that comment should not include personal information. (the user had access to the file anyway, which would make him "very unhapy"). A mod could access to the file of -everyone-. Which means that if user "SirMolle" get a 48 hours suspension, or is limited to one post per hour. Any mod could check it. Is that really necessary ? Well to choose the right action, of course you need the cv of the user. If you can't know that "this user had allready got his signature concordokkenned 3 time" how do you know if you have to send a pm when you see a "dubious" sig (a bit too big, or with borderline content) or if you have to pawn it through the tool imediatly with an official warning served with it. As of email, well it's the burden of having no pm in this forum (evemail button ?). I never had any email from angry user, only mp. But what you can learn from an email is -strictly- what the email is telling you. If in the email there is an header with "Bernard Dupont" or anything like that you know someones name. And if the only way to contact mods is through a mailing list. I'm sorry but you know a bit that what you'll send will get read by every isd from crc. One way to "fix it" would be a "report button" on the forum. It still go to the same persones. There is also an email sent to those same person. But that way the only header in the email is the automated message sender. Another way (to be able to answer) and I think it would be a terrific feature would be to make evemail accessible from the myeve website. That way there is "no email" shared with anyone (except automated mail sent when an isd want to "warn someone"). ---- Quote:** Thou shall pew pew. Book of Revelation 12, 51
Venkul Mul Gallente	Posted - 2007.06.13 06:49:00 - [227] Originally by: Waterfowl Democracy Originally by: CCP kieron As I stated earlier in this thread, CCP is not ruling out the possibility of legal recourse against the leak and it is premature to make any sort of announcement concerning this avenue of action to the community. Just like when you threatened legal action against the people who posted on these forums in what you judged a DDOS style attack? You certainly didn't waste time in that case. But that's totally different right, people posting on your message board is much more serious THAN A MEMBER OF YOUR STAFF RELEASING 6 MONTHS WORTH OF EMAILS CONTAINING REAL NAMES, PHONE NUMBERS, ACCOUNT NAMES AND OTHER SUNDRY INFORMATION. It is faintastic how you re-evalutate things depending on your position: in both istances CCP has put up that they are evalutating lecal action. If you are one of the potential target you consider it a "threat", with no "waste of time" if it is against some other person it is a bland statement, witout meaning. If you want to be taken seriously try to use always the same meter.
ildra	Posted - 2007.06.13 07:28:00 - [228] Will the guy who posted the stuff on SHC get banned? how about tyraxx who did a mirror?
Heroldyn	Posted - 2007.06.13 07:40:00 - [229] well, what can you say ? i donno. i am just wondering about the next thing... and thus some general questions arise: kieron: could you please give us an insight of what information members of the ISD and gamemasters have access to, both in and outside of the game ? 1) which information is an ISD Member able to gather about me, my ingame characters and/or my real life details ? a)Besides NDA's, what rules are in place to guarantee my privacy and security as a customer and as a player towards corrupt ISD members ? 2) which information is a game master able to gather about me, my ingame characters and/or my real life details ? a)Besides NDA's, what rules are in place to guarantee my privacy and security as a customer and as a player towards corrupt gamemasters ? 3) which information is a senior game master able to gather about me, my ingame characters and/or my real life details ? a)Besides NDA's, what rules are in place to guarantee my privacy and security as a customer and as a player towards corrupt senior gamemasters ? 4) Are Queries and Actions taken by ISD Members and gamemasters logged ? a)if so, what information in regards to that is logged ? b)who is in charge of controlling/overseing thoose logs ? 5) Maybe more towards arkanon: In regards to the internal affairs program: a)what kinds of actions are done by the IA "department" on a regular basis in regards to prevent ISD,GM,DEV misconduct and breach of privacy rights ? b)would you rather describe its purpose to -prevent- such misconduct or to -investigate- misconduct once it has become public by other means ? Thanks in advance for transparency and professionalism.
Vando Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.06.13 07:43:00 - [230] Originally by: Mud Pandemonium Not everyone uses throwaway hotmail accounts to converse with CCP/ISD, some of us use e-mail accounts that are for business purposes only. Then you should probably not be using them to communicate with CCP/ISD in the first place, no? --

Yazoul Samaiel Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.06.13 07:46:00 - [231] Keiron , i think this inceident just shows a very clear fact now that the player base and ccp have been trying to avoid. The fact that some of the player base are nothing more than lowlifes who will violate any sort of ethical or moral code just so they can please their virtual ego and will not stop at nothing and will gladly violate ppl's privacy and company law to do so. K started it then mittani continued it and now we got ppl like shamis who are activly support k by hosting his **** site etc. This type of player base fits the category i am talking about and simply banning them just aint enough plus why some sniggs arent banned yet i am quite curious? Their actions have damaged CCP assets basicly all of them , company rep, company information, player info and employee info , i mean seriously whats next? The fact that the ISD dude violated his contract with CCP just shows what type of ppl in RL we are dealing with here and tbqh i strongly suggest legal action agisnt those sore losers sicne the are no good for the community or ccp and they just keep on creating more trouble with every single day. Ban them and sue them to the full extent of the law . Personaly i got attacked by most of these incidents and i would realy like to see some direct and legal action aginst those scum. Your signature image exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected])

Huitzilopochtli Tlaloc Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2007.06.13 07:54:00 - [232] Please avoid accusing members of the community of them being the one who did this, if you honestly have any prof it should be sent to internal affairs. Accusing members of the community will be treated as flaming when posted on the forums and removed. - Thanks Hutch. ____ forum rules \| [email protected] \| ME They call me Hutch. I have forgotten why

Tyrrax Thorrk Amarr Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.06.13 07:55:00 - [233] Originally by: ildra Will the guy who posted the stuff on SHC get banned? how about tyraxx who did a mirror? I briefly mirrored the SHC thread, not the stuff with rl names/emails from kugu's site. http://eve.klaki.net/
Yazoul Samaiel Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.06.13 07:58:00 - [234] Originally by: Huitzilopochtli Tlaloc Please avoid accusing members of the community of them being the one who did this, if you honestly have any proof of anyone who was involved with this it should be sent to internal affairs asap. Accusing members of the community will be treated as flaming when posted on the forums and removed. K was a memeber of the community , mittani was also a memeber of the community , shamis still is . I am reffering to the wrong doing in general this incident is just an addition to a long list of violations. Your signature image exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected])
Mud Pandemonium Minmatar Brutor tribe	Posted - 2007.06.13 08:02:00 - [235] Originally by: Vando Originally by: Mud Pandemonium Not everyone uses throwaway hotmail accounts to converse with CCP/ISD, some of us use e-mail accounts that are for business purposes only. Then you should probably not be using them to communicate with CCP/ISD in the first place, no? Read further down in my post, I said business/financial. It's a contact I use with CCP, an entity in which I exchange money for goods and services. So that fits under the financial part of it. We had our words, a common spat. So I kissed him upside the cranium with an aluminum baseball bat. My name is Mud.
rodgerd Queens of the Stone Age Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.06.13 08:09:00 - [236] Originally by: Elder Bob As you appear to support that, you might be ready to rethink: Originally by: rodgerd I don't really participate in SHC anymore (since I got sick of the Goon mod pinktexting me whenever I disagreed with him) Yeah, that's exactly what it was. -- Not the opinions of my corp or my alliance.
ildra	Posted - 2007.06.13 08:12:00 - [237] Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Originally by: ildra Will the guy who posted the stuff on SHC get banned? how about tyraxx who did a mirror? I briefly mirrored the SHC thread, not the stuff with rl names/emails from kugu's site. Yes well thats sorted then how about the **** who posted all the **?
rodgerd Queens of the Stone Age Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.06.13 08:15:00 - [238] Originally by: Richard Aiel So if CCP whitewashes the topic then it cant be discussed there? No. If the topic keeps devolving into *******, trolling smackfests, the SHC crew prefer to kill further discussions than have their community ruined. Look, I don't even go there any more (except for dramafests like this), I don't particularly like one of their mods, and I'm telling you: the conspiracy you're looking for doesn't exist*. -- Not the opinions of my corp or my alliance.
SkaffenAmtiskaw Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.06.13 08:37:00 - [239] Originally by: Dark Shikari A single phone number is not a big deal in comparison to thousands of released emails. I'd agree with that, and I've a sneaking suspicion it's my mobile number that's being referred to, given it's in my e-mail .sig Personally, I'm more worried about the scale of the leak (and the fact that there's been two leaks in one week revealed) than my number being there - after all, the number is on enough public WHOIS records... ______
Elder Bob	Posted - 2007.06.13 08:42:00 - [240] Originally by: Heroldyn 1) which information is an ISD Member able to gather about me, my ingame characters and/or my real life details ? I'm obviously not kieron, but from the information published, CRC (the forum mods) can see: a) Forum warnings and forum sanctions, as applied by other volunteer members b) Ingame warnings and ingame sanctions, as applied by GMs c) Any information contained in emails sent to [email protected] When I email the mods, my real name is included. My phone number and account number are not. However, that is entirely my choice. Originally by: ildra Will the guy who posted the stuff on SHC get banned? how about tyraxx who did a mirror? The guy who posted the stuff on SHC (which means no real life details of anyone) soon realised the error of his actions. He has posted a public apology on SHC, and he aided Morpheus from IA in his investigation, giving him the identity of the moderator in question. I am confident that if the thread had not been removed, he would have removed that content himself.



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