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Tissa Minmatar UK Corp FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.12 14:32:00 - [121] The E-mail dump was not posted on SHC at any time. It would be courteous of CCP to acknowledge this and apologise for not doing so sooner. It saddens me to see CCP treat the best eve fan site the same way as the worst one and let us take the blame for the latter's transgressions. My views do not represent those of my corp or alliance. (Joined UKC 19/09/06)
Raivi Explosion Matrix	Posted - 2007.06.12 14:32:00 - [122] Edited by: Raivi on 12/06/2007 14:32:36 Edited by: Raivi on 12/06/2007 14:31:29 Originally by: Vando Originally by: Major Stormer Why did you feel it required to place blame on SHC (http://www.scrapheap-challenge.com/viewtopic.php?t=5988), when they was not responsible for this, and the thread was completely deleted after you requested it to be? If the official line is going to be to blame SHC for this, I may very well quit right here, because to do so shows a complete lack of understanding of the Eve community, as well as an inability to confirm facts of what transpired. Wrangler has stated that mails were linked to on SHC. This is ENTIRELY FALSE. Why Wrangler believes this to be true, I do not know. I am aware that he has attacked SHC for being anti-CCP and anti-ISD in the past. If by that he means people say negative things about CCP and ISD, then yes he is correct. This is what we call 'open discussion'. SHC is not a place to relentlessly bash CCP, if people post unfair criticisms they get called on them. This may be news to you guys at CCP: you are not perfect. You make mistakes. People notice these mistakes and comment on them. But we think you're capable of working past your mistakes, as lets face it, we've been quite happy with Eve for a number of years. Almost all of the SHC posters still play the game. We're overjoyed when we hear that devs read out Game Design & Balance forum, as we seriously think our ideas will be of use. We want to help make the game better. The villain is the ISD leaker here people. If you're going to demonise a community that cares deeply about the state of the game, then good luck to you in keeping Eve going. At the risk of sounding like a broken record, QFT. Wrangler, I can only assume that you have no first hand knowledge of what transpired and that you were given false information, because I don't want to believe that you managed to confuse SHC and K's site, and I refuse to believe that you would intentionally defame a staple of your game's user community. Please post a correction to this as soon as possible. Explosion Matrix: Nostrum Nomen est Ridiculum
Elder Bob	Posted - 2007.06.12 14:40:00 - [123] Originally by: CCP kieron As for information available to volunteers, information is compartmentalized and based on need-to-know. Why does an entry level forum moderator need access to people's ingame warnings? I fail to see how they "need to know" that.
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.06.12 14:41:00 - [124] Originally by: Elder Bob Originally by: CCP kieron As for information available to volunteers, information is compartmentalized and based on need-to-know. Why does an entry level forum moderator need access to people's ingame warnings? I fail to see how they "need to know" that. They're not ingame warnings. The logs posted are from the ISD moderator squad mailing list, which by definition they have to have access to. 23 Member EVE Video makers: save EVE-files bandwidth! Use the H.264 AutoEncoder!
Vando Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.06.12 14:45:00 - [125] Originally by: Dark Shikari They're not ingame warnings. The logs posted are from the ISD moderator squad mailing list, which by definition they have to have access to. He's referring to the warnings lists posted on SHC, which contain both forum and ingame warnings and were retrieved from the mod area of this website. --
Fred0 Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.12 14:45:00 - [126] Originally by: Max Teranous At no point did anyone's personal information get posted on SHC. I know, I was F5'ing like a good one when this was happening. The e-mail database was posted on K's site, not on SHC. I can verify this. The e-mail database was solely posted on the K site. It would be terribly wrong to blame SHC for any of this considering they reacted much much quicker to take it all down than CCP have historically shown themselves to react.
Elder Bob	Posted - 2007.06.12 14:50:00 - [127] Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: Elder Bob Originally by: CCP kieron As for information available to volunteers, information is compartmentalized and based on need-to-know. Why does an entry level forum moderator need access to people's ingame warnings? I fail to see how they "need to know" that. They're not ingame warnings. The logs posted are from the ISD moderator squad mailing list, which by definition they have to have access to. There were two seperate issues here. 1) The posting of a list of warnings that players had received. This was posted to Scrapheap Challenge, and soon deleted. This was posted by the rogue forum moderator, under the name of Fluffles. Every warning was coded with a three digit code, and included both ingame and forum warnings. Warnings with the first character 1 were forum warnings. Warnings with the first character 2 were ingame warnings. SHC members aided Morpheus in his investigation into the matter. The identity of the moderator in question was given to IA by a high-profile member of the SHC community. 2) The release of an email database, containing every mail to or from [email protected] from August 2006 to March 2007. This was never posted to Scrapheap Challenge, despite Wrangler's statement to the contrary. It was released on the third party site which is rather more famous for it's tinfoilery and drama. I am not involved with this, so I can't confirm whether or not this stuff came from the moderator calling himself Fluffles or not.

CCP kieron	Posted - 2007.06.12 15:03:00 - [128] For the sake of clarification, CCP is not holding Scrap Heap Challenge responsible for what transpired yesterday. What transpired on their forums could have taken place on any forum, anywhere. Yes, a number of player warnings were posted to the discussion thread on SHC, but the SHC staff removed the thread when they became aware of the thread's content. SHC did not host the e-mail dump at any point in time. I apologize if there was any impression given that CCP considers SHC a party to the events that transpired yesterday. I would also like to thank them for their efforts yesterday. kieron Community Manager, EVE Online, CCP Games Email/Netfang Look Ma, I'm in a Dev thread! Oh wait...

Major Stormer Caldari Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.06.12 15:05:00 - [129] Originally by: CCP kieron For the sake of clarification, CCP is not holding Scrap Heap Challenge responsible for what transpired yesterday. What transpired on their forums could have taken place on any forum, anywhere. Yes, a number of player warnings were posted to the discussion thread on SHC, but the SHC staff removed the thread when they became aware of the thread's content. SHC did not host the e-mail dump at any point in time. I apologize if there was any impression given that CCP considers SHC a party to the events that transpired yesterday. I would also like to thank them for their efforts yesterday. Thank you Kieron. This is most welcome! --------- Its just a game. Get over yourselfs. www.eve-tribune.com Dont get too excited now.
Kyguard Fire Mandrill	Posted - 2007.06.12 15:06:00 - [130] Thanks Kieron, we appreciate it - Latest Video

Elder Bob	Posted - 2007.06.12 15:07:00 - [131] Originally by: CCP kieron I apologize if there was any impression given that CCP considers SHC a party to the events that transpired yesterday. I would also like to thank them for their efforts yesterday. Finally, some sense in this thread. Originally by: CCP kieron SHC did not host the e-mail dump at any point in time. Host or link to, thanks. Now, can you confirm what the rationale is for letting any entry-level CRC volunteer access to the ingame warnings, issued solely by GMs?
Vando Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.06.12 15:12:00 - [132] Thank you Kieron, hopefully we can all be friends again now --
Tsanse Kinske WeMeanYouKnowHarm	Posted - 2007.06.12 15:17:00 - [133] Originally by: CCP kieron For the sake of clarification, CCP is not holding Scrap Heap Challenge responsible for what transpired yesterday. What transpired on their forums could have taken place on any forum, anywhere. Yes, a number of player warnings were posted to the discussion thread on SHC, but the SHC staff removed the thread when they became aware of the thread's content. SHC did not host the e-mail dump at any point in time. I apologize if there was any impression given that CCP considers SHC a party to the events that transpired yesterday. I would also like to thank them for their efforts yesterday. Thanks kieron, much respect for that. * * * In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. -Douglas Adams, writing about EVE
High Sierra Minmatar The Nest	Posted - 2007.06.12 15:17:00 - [134] yes. thank you Keiron. snip please keep sigs EVE-related. Contact [email protected] if you have any further questions - Karass Sayfo I don't know Derek. Really I don't.
Bienurdau Hywoaf Minmatar Matari Holo News Network	Posted - 2007.06.12 15:18:00 - [135] I've given this some more thoughts. This is about the worst thing that can happen. Now I have suggested this before. There is no reason the mods need anyones email address. This archaic forum needs updated. Pretty much all other forums have a report thread and/or report post button. In those systems there is no direct contact to the moderators through email, and thus no possibility of any leaks of personal information. Let's update EVE Online forums, get rid of the system to email the moderators, and just have a button that you push and it sends just the thread/post link to the moderator. It could have a small field to type why you feel the post violates the forum rules. Idea: Treaties Idea: Jump Rigs
Dianabolic Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.06.12 15:20:00 - [136] GG CCP. Reikoku Diplomatic Forums
M'buku Minmatar Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.06.12 15:21:00 - [137] Edited by: M''buku on 12/06/2007 15:20:04 Thankyou Kieron. That post is most heartening. Regards M'buku Global Moderator SHC
Raivi Explosion Matrix	Posted - 2007.06.12 15:26:00 - [138] Thanks kieron. I know it seemed like a bunch of us were getting up in arms, but a lot of people feel very strongly about the community at SHC, and we wanted to make sure that people reading the erroneous sentence would not get the wrong impression. Explosion Matrix: Nostrum Nomen est Ridiculum
Madscotsman Gallente Queens of the Stone Age Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.06.12 15:31:00 - [139] Edited by: Madscotsman on 12/06/2007 15:29:49 Thanks for the clarification Kieron. <3
Astarte Nosferatu MBN Holding Corporation	Posted - 2007.06.12 15:39:00 - [140] Edited by: Astarte Nosferatu on 12/06/2007 15:39:56 My first post on the subject in the official thread in the Information Portal (later on Wrangler placed an edit in my post): Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu Having read said logs (July '06-April '07) which I downloaded from SHC before it was removed, I can say there's a ton of information in there. Real life names, e-mailadresses (both private and work), even phonenumbers and accountnames. A few moderators were dumb enough to reply to mails with their private e-mailadress instead of their ISD e-mail. It's possible to find out who has mod alts etc... I even found out who has been petitioning me which resulted in forum warnings. And no, I will not be sharing the logs with anyone nor will I be giving out information from the logs, as that would be a bannable offence. Please note that SCH didn't host this, they had it posted in their forums - Wrangler The first part of that post wasn't entirely true to be honest. I had accidently mistaken the source of the e-mail logs, which was Kugutsumen.com with Scrapheap Challenge. At the time of writing I had just spend 2 hours reading the April '07 log, I had both SHC and Kugutsumen.com open, and I simply mixed the two up when writing the above quoted post. At the time I couldn't exactly remember which forum I got it from, but I didn't really care as I didn't expect it to do any harm. I was obviously wrong, and now Scrapheap Challenge is unneceserally targetted by CCP, partially by my post stating I downloaded the e-mail logs from SHC, and partially by the edit Wrangler made later on in my post stating a third party posted the logs on SHC, while they were never on SHC to begin with. Anyway, I want to offer both the EvE-Online community and the Scrapheap Challenge my apologies for any harm my post may have done, this will not happen again. Originally by: Dianabolic I was sworn to absolute secrecy by CCP

Critta Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.06.12 15:40:00 - [141] Thanks for the clarification there Kieron. Most appreciated :D Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected])
Kramer Verone Amarr TeamMX	Posted - 2007.06.12 15:41:00 - [142] Edited by: Kramer Verone on 12/06/2007 15:40:20 clarification...
M'buku Minmatar Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.06.12 15:45:00 - [143] Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu Anyway, I want to offer both the EvE-Online community and the Scrapheap Challenge my apologies for any harm my post may have done, this will not happen again. Your apology is very much apreciated. Thankyou. Regards M'buku SHC Global Moderator
Rattus Labbus School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2007.06.12 16:03:00 - [144] Originally by: High Sierra yes. thank you Keiron. This. Also, just in case you didn't realise, High Sierra knows Derek!
Isyel Minmatar Queens of the Stone Age Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.06.12 16:17:00 - [145] <3 Kieron Made me a very happy Isyel! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Originally by: Wrangler We don't want to discriminate anyone! We want both anti-social and social players to grief each other!
Derek Caldari Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.06.12 16:17:00 - [146] Edited by: Derek on 12/06/2007 16:18:02 Originally by: Rattus Labbus Originally by: High Sierra yes. thank you Keiron. This. Also, just in case you didn't realise, High Sierra knows Derek! Yes he does.....
Isyel Minmatar Queens of the Stone Age Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.06.12 16:20:00 - [147] Originally by: Derek Edited by: Derek on 12/06/2007 16:18:02 Originally by: Rattus Labbus Originally by: High Sierra yes. thank you Keiron. This. Also, just in case you didn't realise, High Sierra knows Derek! Yes he does..... touches derek and runs ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Originally by: Wrangler We don't want to discriminate anyone! We want both anti-social and social players to grief each other!
Prof Weirdo	Posted - 2007.06.12 16:44:00 - [148] Originally by: M'buku Greetings. I am here representing the 3rd party site in question. All references to internal communications have been removed from the site as per our policy. The email dump was never posted on SHC. All of the events mentioned here are in no way affiliated with SHC nor have they been. Regards M'buku Global Moderator for SHC So...Scrapheap-challenge forums are controlled by BoB. No wonder there is almost no discussion of CCP miss conduct there.
rodgerd Queens of the Stone Age Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.06.12 16:57:00 - [149] Originally by: Vando The villain is the ISD leaker here people. If you're going to demonise a community that cares deeply about the state of the game, then good luck to you in keeping Eve going. Indeed. Sadly, shooting the messenger appears to be something various elements within CCP are addicted to. -- Not the opinions of my corp or my alliance.
Richard Aiel Caldari The Funkstars Guild	Posted - 2007.06.12 17:10:00 - [150] Originally by: DB Preacher However, the worst thing is the reaction by some of the players of eve. It's a game fella's, abusing me in real life because I mock you on the forums in character about the game is amusing but very sad on your part and highly ironic considering who I am getting abused by ;) Would that be like calling someone's job and trying to get them fired because of a game?? I cant put anything here Im A troublemaker



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