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CCP Morpheus	Posted - 2007.06.12 10:09:00 - [91] Originally by: pershphanie Edited by: pershphanie on 12/06/2007 06:17:25 Edited by: pershphanie on 12/06/2007 05:22:24 Well first off I'd like to give a big snip Inappropriate -Rauth to ISD for releasing my R/L info publicly. Thx for that. Hey CCP, how about hiring a couple people for ISD instead snip? I guess I really shouldn't be paying for eve with a credit card anymore. Seems my assumption that my personal info was secure was a bit naive. WTB - GTC I dunno what the ISD guy thinks I did to deserve that. I may not be the most liked person in eve, but I play by the rules and respect the boundaries. Wish I could say the same for everyone else involved with eve. This snipis getting old real fast. Their shouldn't be out of game consequences for people who keep their eve life in game. Can I get the ingame regular character names of ISD members so I don't **** them off ingame so they dont mess with my RL? snip Inappropriate -Rauth Question to the eve community: How comfortable to you feel with your personal info in the hands of semi-anonymous eve player volunteers? Please don't use profanity. Thanks, Rauth Kivaro ([email protected]) Please don't make personal info public. Thanks, persh Your billing information is completely safe. Regards, CCP Morpheus Internal Affairs Agent

Ari Chu Bughunter Industries	Posted - 2007.06.12 11:17:00 - [92] I just hope that if some sort of legal charges are able to be brought against this person, that CCP will be kind enough to link a news article. I understand that it is probably improper for the name of the individual to be stated: But I'm sure there is nothing wrong with the folks at CCP to say, "Hey look, here is a news article regarding someone who is being arrested for sharing personal information regarding the users of an online game.....". Even if the charges were dropped later - just having the person with a big helping of egg would probably be good. Anyways, it's a game, no one ran over your pet rabbit (and if they did.. DEMAND killmail) "The Galaxy is only as big as you make it." - presumably Eve Game Designers.

CCP Wrangler	Posted - 2007.06.12 11:39:00 - [93] The only information in those emails would be character names and emails and what was written of course, not billing info or passwords. Moderators can not see your account names, so that has not leaked out. Wrangler Assistant Community Manager EVE Online Contact Support - Contact Moderators - Report Bug - Submit News Leads - Knowledge Base Player Guide - Policies - Join ISD - Fan Submissions - DevFinder LiteÖ

SOH'CAH'TOA Amarr Robber Barons Inc. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.06.12 11:47:00 - [94] Originally by: CCP Wrangler The only information in those emails would be character names and emails and what was written of course, not billing info or passwords. Moderators can not see your account names, so that has not leaked out. is it stuff sent to kieron@ccpgames, or wrangler@ccpgames, or is it mods@ccpgames and ONLY that address?
Mashie Saldana Hooligans Of War	Posted - 2007.06.12 12:06:00 - [95] Originally by: CCP Wrangler Moderators can not see your account names, so that has not leaked out. Unless ofcourse you listed the account names in a mail to the mods to troubleshoot a certain forum that didn't work to log in to what so ever... Kieron, I will be greatly disappointed if the reply from [email protected] is anything but yes to my request to change my now public usernames. We're sorry, something happened.

CCP Wrangler	Posted - 2007.06.12 12:17:00 - [96] Originally by: SOH'CAH'TOA is it stuff sent to kieron@ccpgames, or wrangler@ccpgames, or is it mods@ccpgames and ONLY that address? Only [email protected], emails to myself and kieron has not been leaked. Originally by: Mashie Saldana Unless ofcourse you listed the account names in a mail to the mods to troubleshoot a certain forum that didn't work to log in to what so ever... That's true of course, but you should never send your account name to the moderators. But everything you wrote in your emails to mods@ during that time was leaked. Wrangler Assistant Community Manager EVE Online Contact Support - Contact Moderators - Report Bug - Submit News Leads - Knowledge Base Player Guide - Policies - Join ISD - Fan Submissions - DevFinder LiteÖ

Andrue Amarr	Posted - 2007.06.12 12:21:00 - [97] Originally by: Niedar Edited by: Niedar on 12/06/2007 05:50:44 I think its time to end the volunteer program and have only paid staff from now on. Course that would cost some money, dunno how much it would cut out in the profits. So in your view honesty is something that has to be bought with money? That's a sad world you're living in there friend -- (Battle hardened industrialist) [Brackley, UK] *This is not* a signature**
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.06.12 12:26:00 - [98] Originally by: Mashie Saldana Originally by: CCP Wrangler Moderators can not see your account names, so that has not leaked out. Unless ofcourse you listed the account names in a mail to the mods to troubleshoot a certain forum that didn't work to log in to what so ever... Kieron, I will be greatly disappointed if the reply from [email protected] is anything but yes to my request to change my now public usernames. That would be a good idea; CCP should definitely offer to change usernames. 23 Member EVE Video makers: save EVE-files bandwidth! Use the H.264 AutoEncoder!
James McFly	Posted - 2007.06.12 12:27:00 - [99] I would like to see the stats on alliance vs number of infractions/warnings/bans. Statistically, they should all be about the same...
mazzilliu Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.06.12 12:35:00 - [100] also, why can mods see warnings but the recipients can't? if you don't have a continuous record of warning emails then you don't know how close you are to a permaban. I would argue that i need to see my warnings more then random mod #54354354 does.

Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.06.12 12:43:00 - [101] Originally by: mazzilliu also, why can mods see warnings but the recipients can't? if you don't have a continuous record of warning emails then you don't know how close you are to a permaban. I would argue that i need to see my warnings more then random mod #54354354 does. After the warning messages, you get a second message with each ban message that says how long it was. 24 hours = infraction 5 48 hours = infraction 6 72 hours = infraction 7 1 week = infraction 8 2 weeks = infraction 9 indefinite = infraction 10 (note at this point mods' discretion comes into play; if they think you're a valuable poster who made a very very mild rule violation, they might repeat a 2 week ban instead) 23 Member EVE Video makers: save EVE-files bandwidth! Use the H.264 AutoEncoder!
Takahashi Arran coracao ardente Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.06.12 12:58:00 - [102] Edited by: Takahashi Arran on 12/06/2007 13:00:31 Originally by: CCP Wrangler Originally by: SOH'CAH'TOA is it stuff sent to kieron@ccpgames, or wrangler@ccpgames, or is it mods@ccpgames and ONLY that address? Only [email protected], emails to myself and kieron has not been leaked. Originally by: Mashie Saldana Unless ofcourse you listed the account names in a mail to the mods to troubleshoot a certain forum that didn't work to log in to what so ever... That's true of course, but you should never send your account name to the moderators. But everything you wrote in your emails to mods@ during that time was leaked. Yes sadly surprisingly many people did include their acount names IIRC. Also there were numerous e-mail exchanges from from keiron/wrangler in the pack - such as the las vegas event thing. But I think from what i remember these were e-mails that passed though [email protected] first Quote: I would like to see the stats on alliance vs number of infractions/warnings/bans. Statistically, they should all be about the same... overall probably yes. But if there is one thing that reading the logs revealed its that certain allainces were MUCH more aggressive when it comes to alerting mods than others.
pator gurl	Posted - 2007.06.12 13:24:00 - [103] Edited by: pator gurl on 12/06/2007 13:23:04 Originally by: Takahashi Arran overall probably yes. But if there is one thing that reading the logs revealed its that certain allainces were MUCH more aggressive when it comes to alerting mods than others. Maybe that's why people complain mods moderate more anti-Bob posts then pro-Bob posts? I'm wondering what would happen if anti-Bob guys pointed out Bob's troll posts rather than just whining about it.
Major Stormer Caldari Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.06.12 13:46:00 - [104] Edited by: Major Stormer on 12/06/2007 13:52:03 SHC. Lack of respect. Lost my respect. Pretty much sums up my feelings currently. You will have to work hard now CCP... --------- Its just a game. Get over yourselfs. www.eve-tribune.com Dont get too excited now.
Isyel Minmatar Queens of the Stone Age Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.06.12 13:56:00 - [105] Originally by: Major Stormer Edited by: Major Stormer on 12/06/2007 13:52:03 SHC. Lack of respect. Lost my respect. Pretty much sums up my feelings currently. You will have to work hard now CCP... Maybe if you put in some effort and learned the truth. Oh wait. What happened here disgusts me, but CCP please try to find out the truth before going on witchhunts. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Originally by: Wrangler We don't want to discriminate anyone! We want both anti-social and social players to grief each other!
Elder Bob	Posted - 2007.06.12 13:57:00 - [106] Quote: Please note that SCH didn't host this, they had it posted in their forums - Wrangler This is totally, miserably wrong. Big letters, because people (especially CCP, it seems) have real problems with this. At no point was the email database posted to the Scrapheap Challenge third party forums. Not once, not posted then deleted. It was never posted.
Major Stormer Caldari Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.06.12 13:57:00 - [107] Originally by: Elder Bob Quote: Please note that SCH didn't host this, they had it posted in their forums - Wrangler This is totally, miserably wrong. Big letters, because people (especially CCP, it seems) have real problems with this. At no point was the email database posted to the Scrapheap Challenge third party forums. Not once, not posted then deleted. It was never posted. THIS --------- Its just a game. Get over yourselfs. www.eve-tribune.com Dont get too excited now.
Karina Harington Port Royal Independent Kontractors Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.06.12 13:58:00 - [108] Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu Please note that SCH didn't host this, they had it posted in their forums - Wrangler Not true.
Hamfast Gallente	Posted - 2007.06.12 13:59:00 - [109] AAAAAAAAHHHHHHH The Sky is falling!!!! Lets see, in the past year the VA (Veterans Administration) has lost 2 Lap Tops with personal data that was never supposed to leave the office but did... in both cases, I fit the profiles for those that had to worry... You think I am going to get all worked up over a bunch of emails getting leaked? "OMG, some character named Hamfast was stuck in a hollow asteroid and logging out would not help... Quick, Spam mail him!!!!" When in truth it's more like "Wow, look at this ID10T that got stuck in an asteroid and needed help to get out..." Thank you to the Forum's where this was posted for removing them... Thank you CCP for letting us know so we can take steps if needed... And as with all things, it's BoB's fault... (just a joke). None of us is as dumb as all of us...
Jake Stevens The League of Legitimate Nigerian Businessmen	Posted - 2007.06.12 13:59:00 - [110] Edited by: Jake Stevens on 12/06/2007 13:58:37 Originally by: Major Stormer Originally by: Elder Bob Quote: Please note that SCH didn't host this, they had it posted in their forums - Wrangler This is totally, miserably wrong. Big letters, because people (especially CCP, it seems) have real problems with this. At no point was the email database posted to the Scrapheap Challenge third party forums. Not once, not posted then deleted. It was never posted. THIS Quoted for truth... Please get your facts right next time CCP

High Sierra Minmatar The Nest	Posted - 2007.06.12 14:03:00 - [111] First time I've posted in a long time on EvE-O however with a serious matter such as this I have to. Wrangler, please check you facts. The database was never posted on Scrapheap Challenge. the mods and Admin on SHC have been more than open about this. snip please keep sigs EVE-related. Contact [email protected] if you have any further questions - Karass Sayfo I don't know Derek. Really I don't.
das licht Gallente	Posted - 2007.06.12 14:03:00 - [112] Edited by: das licht on 12/06/2007 14:02:30 Contact Interpol, Iceland is also a member country.
Righteous Fury Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.06.12 14:04:00 - [113] Originally by: Elder Bob Quote: Please note that SCH didn't host this, they had it posted in their forums - Wrangler This is totally, miserably wrong. Big letters, because people (especially CCP, it seems) have real problems with this. At no point was the email database posted to the Scrapheap Challenge third party forums. Not once, not posted then deleted. It was never posted. Quoted for absolute truth, don't play the blame game CCP.
Vando Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.06.12 14:05:00 - [114] Originally by: Major Stormer Why did you feel it required to place blame on SHC (http://www.scrapheap-challenge.com/viewtopic.php?t=5988), when they was not responsible for this, and the thread was completely deleted after you requested it to be? If the official line is going to be to blame SHC for this, I may very well quit right here, because to do so shows a complete lack of understanding of the Eve community, as well as an inability to confirm facts of what transpired. Wrangler has stated that mails were linked to on SHC. This is ENTIRELY FALSE. Why Wrangler believes this to be true, I do not know. I am aware that he has attacked SHC for being anti-CCP and anti-ISD in the past. If by that he means people say negative things about CCP and ISD, then yes he is correct. This is what we call 'open discussion'. SHC is not a place to relentlessly bash CCP, if people post unfair criticisms they get called on them. This may be news to you guys at CCP: you are not perfect. You make mistakes. People notice these mistakes and comment on them. But we think you're capable of working past your mistakes, as lets face it, we've been quite happy with Eve for a number of years. Almost all of the SHC posters still play the game. We're overjoyed when we hear that devs read out Game Design & Balance forum, as we seriously think our ideas will be of use. We want to help make the game better. The villain is the ISD leaker here people. If you're going to demonise a community that cares deeply about the state of the game, then good luck to you in keeping Eve going. --
Destr0math Tritanium Workers Union	Posted - 2007.06.12 14:07:00 - [115] Originally by: Vando Originally by: Major Stormer Why did you feel it required to place blame on SHC (http://www.scrapheap-challenge.com/viewtopic.php?t=5988), when they was not responsible for this, and the thread was completely deleted after you requested it to be? If the official line is going to be to blame SHC for this, I may very well quit right here, because to do so shows a complete lack of understanding of the Eve community, as well as an inability to confirm facts of what transpired. Wrangler has stated that mails were linked to on SHC. This is ENTIRELY FALSE. Why Wrangler believes this to be true, I do not know. I am aware that he has attacked SHC for being anti-CCP and anti-ISD in the past. If by that he means people say negative things about CCP and ISD, then yes he is correct. This is what we call 'open discussion'. SHC is not a place to relentlessly bash CCP, if people post unfair criticisms they get called on them. This may be news to you guys at CCP: you are not perfect. You make mistakes. People notice these mistakes and comment on them. But we think you're capable of working past your mistakes, as lets face it, we've been quite happy with Eve for a number of years. Almost all of the SHC posters still play the game. We're overjoyed when we hear that devs read out Game Design & Balance forum, as we seriously think our ideas will be of use. We want to help make the game better. The villain is the ISD leaker here people. If you're going to demonise a community that cares deeply about the state of the game, then good luck to you in keeping Eve going. this. ---- Today is CATURDAY
Kuseka Adama Gallente WOLFPACK DELTA	Posted - 2007.06.12 14:09:00 - [116] This incident makes me want to throw up. I cant explain how much this just hacks me off. This is unreal in a way i can barely believe. This is a betrayal worthy of losing the entire system. I hope legal charges are pressed against those directly involved. I cant fathom how someone could do this. That being said. The current system is a joke anyhow. No offense but weeks to solve petitions that should take HOURS?!!? Being a former AO player i can assure you if a petition took more than a DAY to respond you had free reign to unleash unholy hell on the AO forums over it. I never had a wait time of over 6 hours at the MOST. Here i have to wait weeks usually with bad results. The system needs to be completely overhauled. Volunteer systems work if you have people of character and proper sa***uards. This shows ISD does not have either. Get rid of them all. Wipe the slate clean and build from the ground up. This on top of the fact many players cant currently even connect to eve. (check out workarounds board) Shows just how crazy this situation is getting. Thank you for the transparency and the information. Burn this man please.
M'buku Minmatar Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.06.12 14:10:00 - [117] Edited by: M''buku on 12/06/2007 14:09:47 Greetings. Perhaps I should say this again. There were no files hosted on SHC, nor was there any personal information. There were no links to such information posted to SHC either. Extremely disappointed Kieron. M'buku SHC Global Moderator
Max Teranous Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.06.12 14:10:00 - [118] At no point did anyone's personal information get posted on SHC. I know, I was F5'ing like a good one when this was happening. The e-mail database was posted on K's site, not on SHC. Max --------------------
Isyel Minmatar Queens of the Stone Age Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.06.12 14:20:00 - [119] Originally by: Madscotsman Originally by: Vando Originally by: Major Stormer Why did you feel it required to place blame on SHC (http://www.scrapheap-challenge.com/viewtopic.php?t=5988), when they was not responsible for this, and the thread was completely deleted after you requested it to be? If the official line is going to be to blame SHC for this, I may very well quit right here, because to do so shows a complete lack of understanding of the Eve community, as well as an inability to confirm facts of what transpired. Wrangler has stated that mails were linked to on SHC. This is ENTIRELY FALSE. Why Wrangler believes this to be true, I do not know. I am aware that he has attacked SHC for being anti-CCP and anti-ISD in the past. If by that he means people say negative things about CCP and ISD, then yes he is correct. This is what we call 'open discussion'. SHC is not a place to relentlessly bash CCP, if people post unfair criticisms they get called on them. This may be news to you guys at CCP: you are not perfect. You make mistakes. People notice these mistakes and comment on them. But we think you're capable of working past your mistakes, as lets face it, we've been quite happy with Eve for a number of years. Almost all of the SHC posters still play the game. We're overjoyed when we hear that devs read out Game Design & Balance forum, as we seriously think our ideas will be of use. We want to help make the game better. The villain is the ISD leaker here people. If you're going to demonise a community that cares deeply about the state of the game, then good luck to you in keeping Eve going. qft That. Please CCP, don't screw it up. If you decide to demonise what perhaps is the best community resource around for EvE on the basis of something that's completely WRONG you're not better than whoever made those false accusations about devs etc. a while ago. Not sure i will want to play anymore if that happens and i'm not alone in that i'm sure. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Originally by: Wrangler We don't want to discriminate anyone! We want both anti-social and social players to grief each other!
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.06.12 14:28:00 - [120] Originally by: Vando Originally by: Major Stormer Why did you feel it required to place blame on SHC (http://www.scrapheap-challenge.com/viewtopic.php?t=5988), when they was not responsible for this, and the thread was completely deleted after you requested it to be? If the official line is going to be to blame SHC for this, I may very well quit right here, because to do so shows a complete lack of understanding of the Eve community, as well as an inability to confirm facts of what transpired. Wrangler has stated that mails were linked to on SHC. This is ENTIRELY FALSE. Why Wrangler believes this to be true, I do not know. I am aware that he has attacked SHC for being anti-CCP and anti-ISD in the past. If by that he means people say negative things about CCP and ISD, then yes he is correct. This is what we call 'open discussion'. SHC is not a place to relentlessly bash CCP, if people post unfair criticisms they get called on them. This may be news to you guys at CCP: you are not perfect. You make mistakes. People notice these mistakes and comment on them. But we think you're capable of working past your mistakes, as lets face it, we've been quite happy with Eve for a number of years. Almost all of the SHC posters still play the game. We're overjoyed when we hear that devs read out Game Design & Balance forum, as we seriously think our ideas will be of use. We want to help make the game better. The villain is the ISD leaker here people. If you're going to demonise a community that cares deeply about the state of the game, then good luck to you in keeping Eve going. So true, and completely QFT. CCP needs to make a correction to their statement. 23 Member EVE Video makers: save EVE-files bandwidth! Use the H.264 AutoEncoder!



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