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ER0X Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.06.18 12:06:00 - [211] Edited by: ER0X on 18/06/2007 12:07:33 Originally by: King Fury Originally by: Seleene Edited by: Seleene on 18/06/2007 00:02:53 We speak not of our allies in the campaign, simply of ourselves. Battleships: 1719 killed / 160 lost Carriers: 36 / 10 Dreadnoughts: 36 / 7 Freighters: 8 / 0 Capsules: 4431 / 295 Large Starbases: 144 killed / 2 lost Medium Starbases: 19 / 0 Small Starbases: 14 / 0 Motherships in Build: 2 killed / 1 lost In eighty days the MC-led invasion of the North resulted in the takeover of twenty-three enemy stations and outposts and the displacement / destruction of nearly a dozen alliances, four of them major claimers of territory. If you dont include your allies your stats are false and therefore a lie which is surprising from MC. However, how do you call this a victory when you are the biggest entity in eve (bob, mc, fatal, tri, axe and a whole host of losers)? While you hide behind bob, etc your achievements are meaningless, grow a pair and cut the leash, or join BoB otherwise STFU Normaly after much sweating and thrashing around I would offer to share a post coital cigarette? Edit: Spelling
King Fury Caldari Fury Corp.	Posted - 2007.06.18 12:07:00 - [212] Originally by: Jehuty Vanricadia Originally by: King Fury Originally by: Seleene Edited by: Seleene on 18/06/2007 00:02:53 We speak not of our allies in the campaign, simply of ourselves. Battleships: 1719 killed / 160 lost Carriers: 36 / 10 Dreadnoughts: 36 / 7 Freighters: 8 / 0 Capsules: 4431 / 295 Large Starbases: 144 killed / 2 lost Medium Starbases: 19 / 0 Small Starbases: 14 / 0 Motherships in Build: 2 killed / 1 lost In eighty days the MC-led invasion of the North resulted in the takeover of twenty-three enemy stations and outposts and the displacement / destruction of nearly a dozen alliances, four of them major claimers of territory. If you dont include your allies your stats are false and therefore a lie which is surprising from MC. However, how do you call this a victory when you are the biggest entity in eve (bob, mc, fatal, tri, axe and a whole host of losers)? While you hide behind bob, etc your achievements are meaningless, grow a pair and cut the leash, or join BoB otherwise STFU Bitter much? First of all why would they include other entities that have helped them out? There not MC's stats are they? No. If the other entities decide to make a report on there attack on the north I am sure they will include there stats for you. The alliance was not the biggest entity in the game the coalition WAS at the start of this " great war ". MC have no need to hide behind bob, they where hired to do a job, they did it and did it well how exactly is that hiding behind bob? Infact I think the only people from bob who went up north where an RKK roaming gang and a titan now and again. The capitals behind d2, rzr, MM etc was a capital fleet much larger than MC but yet MC had the balls to actually use theres. I know of several mixed gangs, the point stands the stats are tainted and are therefore incorrect. MC always has been and always will be BoBs pet, they can fight on there own but still like to hide behind bob, they must have one hell of a deal and be happy to be second best to Burn Eden and KIA, who actually have the balls to remain an indepedent entity.
Gunship Amarr FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.18 12:09:00 - [213] A very nice report, something CCP should consider a part of eve history. Like many others we did our little bit, but the drive and resolve of MC was nothing less than outstanding. A fitting end for Revelations Act I So you want to join us?
Laboratus Gallente BGG League of Abnormal Gentlemen	Posted - 2007.06.18 12:10:00 - [214] Very nice writeup. ___ P.S. Post with your main. Mind control and tin hats
Martyr 01 Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.06.18 12:11:00 - [215] Originally by: King Fury MC always has been and always will be BoBs pet, they can fight on there own but still like to hide behind bob, they must have one hell of a deal and be happy to be second best to Burn Eden and KIA, who actually have the balls to remain an indepedent entity. Ok....what are you smoking and where can I buy some?
Plan Neun Caldari Ganja Unlimited	Posted - 2007.06.18 12:22:00 - [216] A bit off topic but do I have to remind u that Buffy got asswhiped by Lana Lang? "I Will Drug You and Fluff You, through the permafrost"
Malachon Draco eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.06.18 12:26:00 - [217] Originally by: ER0X Edited by: ER0X on 18/06/2007 12:07:33 Originally by: King Fury Originally by: Seleene Edited by: Seleene on 18/06/2007 00:02:53 We speak not of our allies in the campaign, simply of ourselves. Battleships: 1719 killed / 160 lost Carriers: 36 / 10 Dreadnoughts: 36 / 7 Freighters: 8 / 0 Capsules: 4431 / 295 Large Starbases: 144 killed / 2 lost Medium Starbases: 19 / 0 Small Starbases: 14 / 0 Motherships in Build: 2 killed / 1 lost In eighty days the MC-led invasion of the North resulted in the takeover of twenty-three enemy stations and outposts and the displacement / destruction of nearly a dozen alliances, four of them major claimers of territory. If you dont include your allies your stats are false and therefore a lie which is surprising from MC. However, how do you call this a victory when you are the biggest entity in eve (bob, mc, fatal, tri, axe and a whole host of losers)? While you hide behind bob, etc your achievements are meaningless, grow a pair and cut the leash, or join BoB otherwise STFU Normaly after much sweating and thrashing around I would offer to share a post coital cigarette? Edit: Spelling You can joke about it all you want, but considering that in the past most entities have been flamed for just posting their own stats and not including any of their allies (which MC used plenty during this campaign if I understand correctly), why would MC somehow be immune to that? I recall John McCreedy being flamed for just posting EDF stats which turned out skewed because EDF was just one corp in ASCN. In a similar vein, MC here was 'just one alliance' among quite a few alliances on their side. Now that is not to say that MC provided anything but a stellar performance, but if you post these kinds of statistics for only one part of the Alliance, then the simple fact remains that your stats will be skewed and I would consider it only logical that people point that out. I bet if we post the stats for only your corp, Eternity INC., it will show that your performance as a corp is even better than the performance of MC as a whole, why not do that? ------------------------------------------------ Murphy's Golden Rule: Whoever has the gold, makes the rules.
Plan Neun Caldari Ganja Unlimited	Posted - 2007.06.18 12:30:00 - [218] Originally by: Malachon Draco Originally by: ER0X Edited by: ER0X on 18/06/2007 12:07:33 Originally by: King Fury Originally by: Seleene Edited by: Seleene on 18/06/2007 00:02:53 We speak not of our allies in the campaign, simply of ourselves. Battleships: 1719 killed / 160 lost Carriers: 36 / 10 Dreadnoughts: 36 / 7 Freighters: 8 / 0 Capsules: 4431 / 295 Large Starbases: 144 killed / 2 lost Medium Starbases: 19 / 0 Small Starbases: 14 / 0 Motherships in Build: 2 killed / 1 lost In eighty days the MC-led invasion of the North resulted in the takeover of twenty-three enemy stations and outposts and the displacement / destruction of nearly a dozen alliances, four of them major claimers of territory. If you dont include your allies your stats are false and therefore a lie which is surprising from MC. However, how do you call this a victory when you are the biggest entity in eve (bob, mc, fatal, tri, axe and a whole host of losers)? While you hide behind bob, etc your achievements are meaningless, grow a pair and cut the leash, or join BoB otherwise STFU Normaly after much sweating and thrashing around I would offer to share a post coital cigarette? Edit: Spelling You can joke about it all you want, but considering that in the past most entities have been flamed for just posting their own stats and not including any of their allies (which MC used plenty during this campaign if I understand correctly), why would MC somehow be immune to that? I recall John McCreedy being flamed for just posting EDF stats which turned out skewed because EDF was just one corp in ASCN. In a similar vein, MC here was 'just one alliance' among quite a few alliances on their side. Now that is not to say that MC provided anything but a stellar performance, but if you post these kinds of statistics for only one part of the Alliance, then the simple fact remains that your stats will be skewed and I would consider it only logical that people point that out. I bet if we post the stats for only your corp, Eternity INC., it will show that your performance as a corp is even better than the performance of MC as a whole, why not do that? There is an old saying from the mythical place called planet Earp. There is something rotten in Denmark.
Alice Cholmondeley Christine.	Posted - 2007.06.18 12:39:00 - [219] Originally by: King Fury MC always has been and always will be BoBs pet, they can fight on there own but still like to hide behind bob, they must have one hell of a deal and be happy to be second best to Burn Eden and KIA, who actually have the balls to remain an indepedent entity. Your smack is so bad it turns into a funny again, good job.
Timmy Bettenson Evil Proctologists	Posted - 2007.06.18 12:53:00 - [220] great write up seleene and nice stats

Jehuty Vanricadia Black Nova Corp	Posted - 2007.06.18 12:54:00 - [221] Originally by: King Fury Originally by: Jehuty Vanricadia Originally by: King Fury Originally by: Seleene Edited by: Seleene on 18/06/2007 00:02:53 We speak not of our allies in the campaign, simply of ourselves. Battleships: 1719 killed / 160 lost Carriers: 36 / 10 Dreadnoughts: 36 / 7 Freighters: 8 / 0 Capsules: 4431 / 295 Large Starbases: 144 killed / 2 lost Medium Starbases: 19 / 0 Small Starbases: 14 / 0 Motherships in Build: 2 killed / 1 lost In eighty days the MC-led invasion of the North resulted in the takeover of twenty-three enemy stations and outposts and the displacement / destruction of nearly a dozen alliances, four of them major claimers of territory. If you dont include your allies your stats are false and therefore a lie which is surprising from MC. However, how do you call this a victory when you are the biggest entity in eve (bob, mc, fatal, tri, axe and a whole host of losers)? While you hide behind bob, etc your achievements are meaningless, grow a pair and cut the leash, or join BoB otherwise STFU Bitter much? First of all why would they include other entities that have helped them out? There not MC's stats are they? No. If the other entities decide to make a report on there attack on the north I am sure they will include there stats for you. The alliance was not the biggest entity in the game the coalition WAS at the start of this " great war ". MC have no need to hide behind bob, they where hired to do a job, they did it and did it well how exactly is that hiding behind bob? Infact I think the only people from bob who went up north where an RKK roaming gang and a titan now and again. The capitals behind d2, rzr, MM etc was a capital fleet much larger than MC but yet MC had the balls to actually use theres. I know of several mixed gangs, the point stands the stats are tainted and are therefore incorrect. MC always has been and always will be BoBs pet, they can fight on there own but still like to hide behind bob, they must have one hell of a deal and be happy to be second best to Burn Eden and KIA, who actually have the balls to remain an indepedent entity. Umm sorry but do you actually know what you are talking about? neither KIA or BE are on the same level as MC: KIA skill wise, BE arent even mercs; they seem to do what they want when they want, so I think you should probably go back and read up on your eve history.
DeadDuck Amarr Infinite Improbability Inc Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2007.06.18 13:06:00 - [222] Very nice report. Congratulations to a very well planned and executioned campaign. Just from my own perspective the WAR was lost in the battlefields of Fountain/Delve, but if this campaign would never happened D2 would still exist and the face of the north would still be the same, so, dam nice work from MC+Allies. Just one remark regarding the Jita Express: none of the northern alliances is in Jita or in Empire
Jin Entres Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.06.18 13:13:00 - [223] Originally by: Malachon Draco Originally by: ER0X Edited by: ER0X on 18/06/2007 12:07:33 Originally by: King Fury Originally by: Seleene Edited by: Seleene on 18/06/2007 00:02:53 We speak not of our allies in the campaign, simply of ourselves. Battleships: 1719 killed / 160 lost Carriers: 36 / 10 Dreadnoughts: 36 / 7 Freighters: 8 / 0 Capsules: 4431 / 295 Large Starbases: 144 killed / 2 lost Medium Starbases: 19 / 0 Small Starbases: 14 / 0 Motherships in Build: 2 killed / 1 lost In eighty days the MC-led invasion of the North resulted in the takeover of twenty-three enemy stations and outposts and the displacement / destruction of nearly a dozen alliances, four of them major claimers of territory. If you dont include your allies your stats are false and therefore a lie which is surprising from MC. However, how do you call this a victory when you are the biggest entity in eve (bob, mc, fatal, tri, axe and a whole host of losers)? While you hide behind bob, etc your achievements are meaningless, grow a pair and cut the leash, or join BoB otherwise STFU Normaly after much sweating and thrashing around I would offer to share a post coital cigarette? Edit: Spelling You can joke about it all you want, but considering that in the past most entities have been flamed for just posting their own stats and not including any of their allies (which MC used plenty during this campaign if I understand correctly), why would MC somehow be immune to that? I recall John McCreedy being flamed for just posting EDF stats which turned out skewed because EDF was just one corp in ASCN. In a similar vein, MC here was 'just one alliance' among quite a few alliances on their side. Now that is not to say that MC provided anything but a stellar performance, but if you post these kinds of statistics for only one part of the Alliance, then the simple fact remains that your stats will be skewed and I would consider it only logical that people point that out. I bet if we post the stats for only your corp, Eternity INC., it will show that your performance as a corp is even better than the performance of MC as a whole, why not do that? First of all Seleene makes it clear in the OP (see what you quote) what the statistics represent. There is no need to "point it out". The comment was therefore, in fact, an opinion that the statistics are "false and therefore a lie", which implies that they are not representative of our performance. King Fury would, perhaps, have been interested in all of the northern alliances' performance, but regrettably this is an MC contract summary and report, and therefore the numbers presented only involve us. Whether or not the numbers would be more impressive (which itself is a matter of point of view: ratio or total number of kills for example) we don't know, because that is irrelevant. Furthermore, consolidating data from several killboards would in all probability lead to less accuracy. And vice versa someone could then contest that the numbers presented do not represent our performances because there are others involved. Therefore the accusation of us lying is without basis and uncalled for. Everyone can interpret the stats the way they see appropriate. ---
Garia666 Amarr T.H.U.G L.I.F.E	Posted - 2007.06.18 13:15:00 - [224] hehe respect for the stats and if you earn yoru self a card. youll get my respect to! ->My Vids<-
Cabadrin Caldari Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.06.18 13:16:00 - [225] I went to the north and all I got was this epic fight Seriously, this was an incredible contract, and without a doubt the largest and most involved contract ever. I went from an auxiliary support FC that did some POS ops in my dread to one of our Mothership pilots, terrorizing BKG and LXWN. I have two groups to praise for this contract: First, our fantastic leaders who helped organize this whole thing, and our allies who saw this as an opportunity to change the political landscape of Eve. I also have a ton of respect for our enemies who fought well for their homes. Nice Alliance. We'll kill it. _______________________________________________
Kahor Minmatar Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.06.18 13:21:00 - [226] Wow, It's the first time I read a report such as this one. Impressive, classy, fun and informative. Congratulation everyone on a job well done, I've been tagging along for part of this whole thing, and I don't regret it. ---------------- An eye for an eye make a whole world blind.
AvengeR ofBLooD Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.06.18 13:33:00 - [227] In most threads you will always find some that claw through a pile of crap to find a piece of corn and after eating it convince themselves they have eaten their vegies for the day. The MC stats are just that, stats to give you a general idea. Everyone has access to everyone elses KBs so go find out for yourselves if you really want to know exact numbers and try in utter disbelief to discredit what MC and allies have accomplished here ... just wash your hands when your done. Stats or not, in the end it really comes down to this ... ... the North is SPLAT!! The Alliance is still alive and kicking the CRAP out of the enemy for them to bathe in afterwards. The OP's before and after maps shows that perfectly. Good contract results MC I spend Isk I don't have, to buy things I don't need, to impress people I don't like!
Jack Malus Gallente Phoenix Wing Acheron Federation	Posted - 2007.06.18 13:47:00 - [228] Would be interesting to get an account from the other side of this epic fight. What was the strategy, what went wrong, what went right...that kind of thing. ---
Sucram Amarr Citadel of dark arts Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.06.18 13:52:00 - [229] Nice report, liked the wallpapers in the end. -------------------------------------------- "From pain comes truth, let me show you the truth"
Valrandir Gallente Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.06.18 13:55:00 - [230] Originally by: Seleene Edited by: Seleene on 18/06/2007 00:02:53 The North Reloaded Ladies and Gentlemen of EVE, it is with great pleasure tonight that I present to you the results of the Mercenary CoalitionÆs largest contract to date: CLICK ME -->THE NORTH RELOADED<-- CLICK ME ... Great post! I've been there and MC surely are some quite professional and dedicated pilots -------------------------------- This has surpassed the Yarrdware specification and has been dubbed Uberware

Malachon Draco eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.06.18 13:59:00 - [231] Originally by: Jin Entres Therefore the accusation of us lying is without basis and uncalled for. Everyone can interpret the stats the way they see appropriate. I didn't call it lying. I'd call it presenting a table with known flaws. Working a lot with statistics, one becomes acutely aware of how flawed they really can be. Or in other words, with a lot of statistics its very hard NOT to 'lie' when you present them unless you are willing to write a whole book with tables, explanations and disclaimers. ------------------------------------------------ Murphy's Golden Rule: Whoever has the gold, makes the rules.
Verone Gallente Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.06.18 14:00:00 - [232] Awesome. No other word to describe it. Just. Awesome. >>> THE BEAUTY OF NEW EDEN <<<
Herculite Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.06.18 14:02:00 - [233] Originally by: Malachon Draco You can joke about it all you want, but considering that in the past most entities have been flamed for just posting their own stats and not including any of their allies (which MC used plenty during this campaign if I understand correctly), why would MC somehow be immune to that? I recall John McCreedy being flamed for just posting EDF stats which turned out skewed because EDF was just one corp in ASCN. In a similar vein, MC here was 'just one alliance' among quite a few alliances on their side. Do not speak the name of the beast McCreedy too often, lest he rise up and show his face where it is unwanted! Flaming in this case is just silly. MC and friends won, and they didn't just win a fight where you can pick apart stats on who killed what, they UTTERLY DOMINATED. They were the alpha and the omega. This is a postmortems not a battle report. Its not up to selenee to look at everyones KB in every fight to see how many non-MC ships went down in a 4 month period. McCreedy was using the stats to show somehow that EDF was 'beating' BoB. It was HOW he used them that was flamed, anyone with a brain knows how KB stats can be skewed.
Jin Entres Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.06.18 14:08:00 - [234] Originally by: Malachon Draco Originally by: Jin Entres Therefore the accusation of us lying is without basis and uncalled for. Everyone can interpret the stats the way they see appropriate. I didn't call it lying. I'd call it presenting a table with known flaws. Working a lot with statistics, one becomes acutely aware of how flawed they really can be. Or in other words, with a lot of statistics its very hard NOT to 'lie' when you present them unless you are willing to write a whole book with tables, explanations and disclaimers. I was not referring to you. I apologise if it seemed that way. The point is, the statistics are there without ambiguity of what they represent. The accusation that they are intentionally chosen to be represented that way for bias lacks evidence and argumentation. ---
PaddyPaddy Nihildarnik Gallente Rampage Eternal Ka-Tet	Posted - 2007.06.18 14:11:00 - [235] Edited by: PaddyPaddy Nihildarnik on 18/06/2007 14:10:42 This is an excellent piece of history. Im not agreeing with the content completely but I can understand why you would only post your own stats. All history is written with a level of subjectivity, a level of abstraction. I do not condemn this piece because it too is subjective, rather I condemn those who would assume that it should be gospel. It is up to the readers to make of it what they will, to juxtapose this with other "reports" to garner something approaching historical "fact". What I can say is that you should be proud of the quality of the report. Despite the fact that we are currently in opposite trenches in this virtual no-mans-land, this "great war", I have nothing but admiration for this work. It is the dedication we see in this work that makes eve so enjoyable. If this level of dedication filters through to your commitment in game, than its no wonder you were so successful. Hats off to you. See you on the battlefield to write the next piece of history Peace WithinSo if the theory of relativity is true, shouldn't i arrive at my destination before i warped in the first place? Neon GhostYou do, but this is compensated for by lag
boo3916 D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.06.18 14:42:00 - [236] hats of to MC, a very good job well done. something we can only aspire to become as good as MC. we are getting better in our own way and things take time. MC have built a reputation and justifiably so, well done and congratulations.
IHurricane Sniggerdly	Posted - 2007.06.18 14:50:00 - [237] You got cool sigs, though. --------------------------------------------- There was never a genius, without a tincture of madness - Aristotle
Yvonne S FireStar Inc FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.18 14:54:00 - [238] I never could understand why people need to troll these battle report threads. It was a please to fly with MC and Allies. Great work !
Xarax Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.06.18 15:05:00 - [239] You guys are true professionals. Very nicely done. _______
Lumy Eve University	Posted - 2007.06.18 15:12:00 - [240] Poor misguided fools. Can't you see the whole situation was orchestrated by Faceless Pokemon to destroy Xelas? Btw, excellent writeup. I was expecting good one, but not that good one.



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