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Strategos Banned Society	Posted - 2007.07.06 11:35:00 - [181] Originally by: Barthezz Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: Barthezz A MS fearing 1-2 dictors is a bit much. If it were only 2 dictors that killed the MS - yes. But it wasnt, it was a whole fleet + a lot of dictors keeping it in place. If some hero decides to use a supercap to gank some stranglers on his own, its his own incompetence that got his expensive toy killed. Well your saying that, but 1-2 dictors (well 3 as a bob guy said) can keep a MS pinned long enough for a fleet to come from miles away. I'm all for making super caps killable, but this is a bit too easy imho. Anyways its something super cap pilots will have to live with and adapt to (though I do think its a bit 'too easy'). Probably fits their 'easier to built' profile as in 44 or so days the first capital systems start to pop up. I'll still shed a tear for STK though, they had so much bad luck lately To be quite honest, if 3 dictors are holding a MS down long enough for support to arrive then that means either the MS had no support or it's support was terrible and it deserves to go down. They are not ment for solo pwning and they will die if their pilots continue to think otherwise. Hopefully MS's in lowsec will get what's coming to them when CCP wakes up and does something so they can be held down. ---Sig--- *WARNING* Do not look at my portrait for more then two seconds or it will jump out at you and kill you DEAD! Done :) -Ivan K
DeadDuck Amarr Infinite Improbability Inc Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2007.07.06 11:38:00 - [182] Good Job Razor and Pandemic Legion. The days of invulnerability of the Super Caps are over and thats good. No doubt we will see more of them being killed as pilots tend to "solo" in this ships like they used to. To many times I saw MS's escaping untouched even when completly outnumbered and outgunned. Glad those times are over.
Mei Han Gallente Mythos Corp RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.06 11:47:00 - [183] Quote: To be quite honest, if 3 dictors are holding a MS down long enough for support to arrive then that means either the MS had no support or it's support was terrible and it deserves to go down. They are not ment for solo pwning and they will die if their pilots continue to think otherwise. Hopefully MS's in lowsec will get what's coming to them when CCP wakes up and does something so they can be held down. Thank god someone with sense exists in CAOD. I understand all the whine about desynk even tho i belive that the support fleet propably would not manage to pull this of one way or the other. But as for dictors are conserned what the frank dudes? READ THE PATCHNOTES!!! MSs stop being the pwnmobiles since rev2 and as i can see ppl still fly them on thier own. Well it is called a mothership for some reasons, and the reasons are that it is a Support ship but ppl fail to see beond its drone and module dmg. As for other comments, i have to state.. "At least it had a pilot onboard"
band0fdevs Gallente Band of Dev's	Posted - 2007.07.06 11:47:00 - [184] Originally by: DeadDuck Good Job Razor and Pandemic Legion. The days of invulnerability of the Super Caps are over and thats good. No doubt we will see more of them being killed as pilots tend to "solo" in this ships like they used to. To many times I saw MS's escaping untouched even when completly outnumbered and outgunned. Glad those times are over. a note tho if supercaps are well supported then they are a lot safer ( as MC are proving time and time again) it may slow down the speed of overall 0.0 warfare but this aint to bad anyway. Will leave more open space for empire residents to fall into
Tearavygh Quillam Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.06 11:50:00 - [185] Supercaps are no longer solopownmobiles and btw, it has been known for a while that we like to jump on cap kills everytime we have the chance... there is no point in crying so much for a ship that was flown so recklessly. Ernie, bring a titan km on our kb!!!
Evil Night Minmatar Grave Raiders Inc.	Posted - 2007.07.06 11:50:00 - [186] STK the end is near Whats with all the dam cry babys stop been sore losers !
Blackmyst Caldari Inter-Regional Intelligence Service Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.07.06 11:51:00 - [187] Good Job guys !!! -- BlackMyst -- /Me Need Smarties Officer !!! Vizans Armor Reps !!! Tech II BPOs !!! !!! Need a Sig Btw !!!
Bial Slatros Roving Guns Inc. RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.06 11:52:00 - [188] Note to self: When i get a mothership soon Dont try and kill eny old thing at the gate with out having backup just in case. [noted]
xtremecutie Get in the Van I've Got Candy	Posted - 2007.07.06 11:52:00 - [189] Any supercap pilot that logs in with the current state of the servers knows they are taking a risk (even larger than just not being able to jump out of bubbles). Even if he desynced from the start CCP has shown that they will not reimburse supercaps under any conditions (even when clear evidence from both parties involved is presented) - even if those exact same conditions would warrant reimbursement of a regular ship. You can't fault the killers for the craptastic state of the servers, and it seems as though they would have got the kill anyway with all the firepower they had.
band0fdevs Gallente Band of Dev's	Posted - 2007.07.06 11:55:00 - [190] Originally by: xtremecutie Any supercap pilot that logs in with the current state of the servers knows they are taking a risk (even larger than just not being able to jump out of bubbles). Even if he desynced from the start CCP has shown that they will not reimburse supercaps under any conditions (even when clear evidence from both parties involved is presented) - even if those exact same conditions would warrant reimbursement of a regular ship. You can't fault the killers for the craptastic state of the servers, and it seems as though they would have got the kill anyway with all the firepower they had. goonfleet have the advantage but bob could easily change course and counter blob that might repersent the next stage ( of course blobs can be bombed now by stealth bombers) so things realy become balanced.
band0fdevs Gallente Band of Dev's	Posted - 2007.07.06 12:04:00 - [191] Originally by: Pociomundo Originally by: Capt Rob in these kinds of attacks; most of the time a desync stops the ms etc from doing anything to hurt the other guys. most of the time hes already been bubbled a ton of times and is gona die anyway. And looking at the km, he most likely woulda died anyway and im sure he couldt lock past 2km anyway You do realise motherships can't be dampened right? can be dictored, bombed with bombs and generally tied down a support fleet as MC are showing is essential
Naomi Wildfire Amarr Stardust Heavy Industries	Posted - 2007.07.06 12:04:00 - [192] Let the Rats do the final blow :D
Robert Ger Caldari Free Mercenaries Union FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.06 12:13:00 - [193] Originally by: Farscape Hw my dictor is FTW /me dances the 'i bubbled a mothership' dance ************* Vote for buidable structures on Planets! *************
queen najazer GALAXIAN Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.07.06 12:15:00 - [194] Davlin, although your no longer blue, im sorry for your loss dude. AT least you had the balls to use the ship as it should, to kill any and everything that stood before you. To Pan / Rzr etc... nicely laid trap and well planned Man thats gotta hurt
Dave White coracao ardente Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.07.06 12:17:00 - [195] Good job, and shame about the de-sync's Originally by: CCP kieron Dave, that sig is freaky and funny at the same time.
Pociomundo Gallente World Order The Imperial Order	Posted - 2007.07.06 12:23:00 - [196] Originally by: band0fdevs Originally by: Pociomundo Originally by: Capt Rob in these kinds of attacks; most of the time a desync stops the ms etc from doing anything to hurt the other guys. most of the time hes already been bubbled a ton of times and is gona die anyway. And looking at the km, he most likely woulda died anyway and im sure he couldt lock past 2km anyway You do realise motherships can't be dampened right? can be dictored, bombed with bombs and generally tied down a support fleet as MC are showing is essential Well done, I wasn't talking about that... But thanks for trying silly CAOD alt. He talks about the mom being Ewar'd as if even if Davlin wasn't desync'd he wouldn't have been able to be offensive as he would have been dampened too much, I was pointing out that it would not be the case as he would target fine. Having said that, from the screenshots, done deal. #2 looks sexy with teh shield tank :)
Rhaegor Stormborn Sturmgrenadier Inc R i s e	Posted - 2007.07.06 12:44:00 - [197] CCP fix this desync bull****. Freaking amatures. RISE Recruitment Thread
Mozana x13 Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.07.06 12:44:00 - [198] anyone killed a MS which actually fought back? the bob ms loss also just showed a ms with fighters not attacking, ship not repping or trying to re-align after beeing bumbped. whats up with this?
other mickey Gallente Galaxy Punks	Posted - 2007.07.06 12:45:00 - [199] Nice kill! Sidenote: More than 30b worth of ships have been lost to lag and de-synchs and have not been re-imbursed. And it's probably well over the trillion mark. A kill is a kill. What do people expect PL/RZR to do, decide to not attack because everyone's de-synching therefore not a legit kill? You have to play in the way the server allows you to do at the time.
Jitagirl Jita Trade Services	Posted - 2007.07.06 12:54:00 - [200] Originally by: queen najazer Davlin, although your no longer blue, im sorry for your loss dude. AT least you had the balls to use the ship as it should, to kill any and everything that stood before you. Erm, ganking solo Battleships is as supposed !?
Cazziel E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.07.06 12:59:00 - [201] Job well done Snigg & RZR, think they got what they deserved. Petition whiners can eat dust and stop breathing, or then CCP can reimburse some titans also.
VinceNoir Amarr Pyrrhus Sicarii Aftermath Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.06 13:06:00 - [202] From what I hear De-synchs are commonplace for most mom pilots, I doubt you'll get it back from petition. Originally by: "Shanda Captison" Vince, you can't even spell ECM m8
Kagura Nikon Minmatar Guardians of the Dawn Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.07.06 13:15:00 - [203] Well rev 2 will have an interesting result. Corps and alliances will give super capitals based on tactical capability and cold blood characteristics of the pilot. Not to arrogant and impulsive people. Impulsive people should use HACs If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough
Mr Mirage KIA Corp KIA Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.06 13:24:00 - [204] I lol'd
Gokil North Eastern Swat	Posted - 2007.07.06 13:25:00 - [205] Originally by: Strategos Originally by: Natsuki Originally by: Ander Originally by: Natsuki 6m tech 2 destroyer > 30b mothership. balance ftw? There fixed it for ya. 11x capitalships or more + 10x t2 destroyers + 60 support fleet > 30b mothership if you knew how to play eve, you'd probably realize it only takes about 3 dictors to hold a ms indefinately until help arrives. The MS pilot was dumb enough to engage a Domi without intel trying to be "cool" and you're saying the people who set the trap and pulled it off don't know how to play? Typical BoB. How's Molle btw? Derailed thread with your face!
gordon cain Minmatar x13 Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.07.06 13:35:00 - [206] To me its pretty simple. Both sides admits De-Sync. Everyone should get their ships back. CCP should put all hands on this bug. Gordon Cain Gordon Cain "Allways remember. Never argue with idiots, they will just drag you down to their level, and beat you with experience"
Narciss Sevar Caldari	Posted - 2007.07.06 13:40:00 - [207] Originally by: gordon cain To me its pretty simple. Both sides admits De-Sync. Everyone should get their ships back. CCP should put all hands on this bug. Gordon Cain But if he hadn't of de-synced he would of died anyway. That's a ******** way to look at it.
Alias11 Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.06 13:48:00 - [208] Originally by: Natsuki 6m tech 2 destroyer > 30b mothership. balance ftw? Funny the ship with the explicit purpose of holding down other ships and preventing them from escaping can do just that. I suppose an atron with a scrambler piloted by a five-minute newbie shouldn't be able to tie down battleship either. I suppose it makes sense if you're brain is completely overwhelmed trying to rationalize and defend your deviances of the flesh
Alias11 Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.06 13:50:00 - [209] Originally by: gordon cain To me its pretty simple. Both sides admits De-Sync. Everyone should get their ships back. CCP should put all hands on this bug. Gordon Cain If you start doing this it goes from the rev 1 "supercaps are effectively invincible" to a brand new "supercaps can reincarnate as many times as they want"
Kagura Nikon Minmatar Guardians of the Dawn Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.07.06 13:57:00 - [210] Originally by: gordon cain To me its pretty simple. Both sides admits De-Sync. Everyone should get their ships back. CCP should put all hands on this bug. Gordon Cain If they do that they will need to replace every MS lost until today because all of them were because of De Sync. CCP will never reinburse super capitals unless its clearly and without doubt their fault, like being stuck in a POS with inactive guns but guns bugged and firing on ship until it went down (pure theoretical here). If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough

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