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Shamis Orzoz
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.06 05:18:00 -
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Edited by: Shamis Orzoz on 06/07/2007 05:18:04 Today at approximate 04:30, Davlin Lotze, of M. Pire lost his Wyvern in LXWN-W.
Ernest and I planned the attack for several days, and it went off without a hitch.
Thanks to Razor and all the Pandemic legion guy that came out.
Shamis
P.S. CCP thanks for all the de-sync's...
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Superbus Maximus
Gallente Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.06 05:19:00 -
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Being bait 4tw!!!
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Union Worker
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Posted - 2007.07.06 05:20:00 -
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proof?
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doctorstupid2
Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.07.06 05:20:00 -
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Edited by: doctorstupid2 on 06/07/2007 05:20:29 Edited by: doctorstupid2 on 06/07/2007 05:20:02 Second in what's going to be a huge thread. all your base and all that. (dammit! third)
And we now return you to your regularly scheduled mindless alt flaming.
Steel Rat > if they only knew we make this **** up as we go |
Darpz
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.06 05:20:00 -
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uber bait domie for the win
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Capt Rob
Minmatar Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.06 05:20:00 -
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and that is how the cookie crumbles!
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Kael Zeratul
Wreckless Abandon Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.07.06 05:21:00 -
[7]
battle report?
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Ohne
Minmatar Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.06 05:21:00 -
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I only relogged once. Some of us relogged upto 5 times. Desync¦s ftl.
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R0ot
Got R0ot
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Posted - 2007.07.06 05:21:00 -
[9]
Well played pandemic, but if you dysnc'd maybe the mothership pilot did also? But nice kill all the same. ------------------------------------------------------------------
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Kirex
Gallente Vale Heavy Industries Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2007.07.06 05:21:00 -
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Nice. :) Get into more detail though D:.
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Tomas Ysidro
Caldari Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.07.06 05:22:00 -
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Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
Ernest and I planned the attack for several days, and it went off without a hitch.
You tease, what was the plan? :P
Congrats
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Arrgs
Retribution Corp.
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Posted - 2007.07.06 05:22:00 -
[12]
gj guys kill them all rawr but seriously i still have no ******* idea who these guys are mysadfsha My first video! |
hangnoose
Caldari DAB RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.06 05:22:00 -
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Originally by: Union Worker proof?
killmail is posted on m.pire / razor / pandemics killboards
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Raef Ruoy
Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.06 05:22:00 -
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Was fun. -Raef
SniggWaffe is Recruiting |
Darpz
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.06 05:22:00 -
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Originally by: R0ot Well played pandemic, but if you dysnc'd maybe the mothership pilot did also? But nice kill all the same.
it was dead regardless of desync's there were so many bubbles it was insane
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Davlin Lotze
STK Scientific M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.07.06 05:22:00 -
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Complete desynch from the start. I wasn't able to launch a single drone the entire fight.
The petition has been submitted.
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Shamis Orzoz
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.06 05:23:00 -
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Originally by: R0ot Well played pandemic, but if you dysnc'd maybe the mothership pilot did also? But nice kill all the same.
Everybody desynced.
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Wei Xiao
STK Scientific M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.07.06 05:23:00 -
[18]
nvm we'll get it back.
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Quintus Sertorius
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.06 05:23:00 -
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Wish I had been there. Good work guys.
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Superbus Maximus
Gallente Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.06 05:23:00 -
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Originally by: Kael Zeratul battle report?
Well Wyvern warped to the gate I warped to the dictor. Then we sent in the dictors when he was bubbled. Then I dropped the cyno and he popped sadly thats about sums it up. Plus there was a lot of de-syncing when SNIGG/Razor caps jumped in had to relog my carrier alt 4 fing times fix it CCP
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Aramark
Omega Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.07.06 05:23:00 -
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good job guys.
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doctorstupid2
Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.07.06 05:23:00 -
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Originally by: Darpz
Originally by: R0ot Well played pandemic, but if you dysnc'd maybe the mothership pilot did also? But nice kill all the same.
it was dead regardless of desync's there were so many bubbles it was insane
or were there? dun dun DUUNNNNNNN!
Steel Rat > if they only knew we make this **** up as we go |
Ander
Gallente Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.06 05:24:00 -
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Behold. Top Secret intel from Pandemic legion forums: ------------------------- Poster: Shamis Orzoz CEO Topic: Default thursday night (fri am) 0300 Message: I'm taking a gang out. Meet in *censured*. I definitely need a couple dictors and hugins. ------------------------- Poster: ander
Message: will this be epic?
------------------------- Poster: Night Haunter
Originally Posted by ander Quote: will this be epic? end quote
Message: You'll **** bricks. -------------------------
EVE PIRATE ANDER! now posting in "orange" |
Kael Zeratul
Wreckless Abandon Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.07.06 05:24:00 -
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Originally by: Davlin Lotze
The petition has been submitted.
GL with that, you'll need it
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Hubris
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.06 05:24:00 -
[25]
Congrats!!!!!!
The UBER Cauldron of Hate strikes again!
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Plaetean
Hybrid Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.07.06 05:25:00 -
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Grats guys.
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HSY are recruiting
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Capt Rob
Minmatar Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.06 05:25:00 -
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in these kinds of attacks; most of the time a desync stops the ms etc from doing anything to hurt the other guys. most of the time hes already been bubbled a ton of times and is gona die anyway. And looking at the km, he most likely woulda died anyway and im sure he couldt lock past 2km anyway
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Aramark
Omega Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.07.06 05:25:00 -
[28]
Originally by: Wei Xiao nvm we'll get it back.
where is that picture of a crying baby when i need it.... [/url]
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Farscape Hw
Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.06 05:25:00 -
[29]
my dictor is FTW
/me dances the 'i bubbled a mothership' dance
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Union Worker
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Posted - 2007.07.06 05:25:00 -
[30]
mmhm killmail.. well what happened?
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Davlin Lotze
STK Scientific M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.07.06 05:26:00 -
[31]
Actually the bubbles were not that plentiful and the dictor pilots not that smart tbh because at the range they were at (close, but not smartbomb close) I could have easily dispatched them with drones.
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ElrondMD
The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.07.06 05:26:00 -
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GJ guys :)
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Darpz
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.06 05:26:00 -
[33]
you were desynced how would you know :P
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Xeliya
Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.07.06 05:27:00 -
[34]
Nice kill, though they really need to fix this lag/desync crap then a super cap kill would be worth so much more.
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Arrakeen
Amarr Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.06 05:27:00 -
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Edited by: Arrakeen on 06/07/2007 05:26:39 Great job to everyone involved! Well done!
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Tinge Shade
Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.06 05:27:00 -
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Mothership.... tasty
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Ander
Gallente Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.06 05:27:00 -
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I counted over 10 bubbles at one point. So "few bubbles" , that claim is false.
EVE PIRATE ANDER! now posting in "orange" |
Ohne
Minmatar Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.06 05:27:00 -
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Originally by: Davlin Lotze Actually the bubbles were not that plentiful and the dictor pilots not that smart tbh because at the range they were at (close, but not smartbomb close) I could have easily dispatched them with drones.
We had about 10 Dictors though.... Also if your desynced you wouldn really see it now would you?
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TenthReality
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.06 05:27:00 -
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Epic thread, Desyncs yes. Gamelogs of smartbombs+drone damage shows pilot was doing something, also a yes. No one will ever really know.
All I know is I'm in a deimos on a mothership killmail. WTF?!?!?!?
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Davlin Lotze
STK Scientific M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.07.06 05:27:00 -
[40]
Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
Originally by: R0ot Well played pandemic, but if you dysnc'd maybe the mothership pilot did also? But nice kill all the same.
Everybody desynced.
Wrong, killmail suggests that your carrier guys had their fighters in play whilst I didn't see a single one of them ever during the fight. Usually, as is evidenced by the various fraps of prior mom kills, etc, a sea of fighter\drones usually envelopes the target.
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Stahlregen
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.06 05:28:00 -
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Originally by: Davlin Lotze Complete desynch from the start. I wasn't able to launch a single drone the entire fight.
The petition has been submitted.
Ask Shrike how well that went.
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SigmaPi
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.06 05:28:00 -
[42]
Good fight to all involved.
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Lee Bian
Amarryan Nations GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.06 05:28:00 -
[43]
Originally by: Davlin Lotze Complete desynch from the start. I wasn't able to launch a single drone the entire fight.
The petition has been submitted.
that's just wasting everybody's time
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R0ot
Got R0ot
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Posted - 2007.07.06 05:28:00 -
[44]
Originally by: Capt Rob in these kinds of attacks; most of the time a desync stops the ms etc from doing anything to hurt the other guys. most of the time hes already been bubbled a ton of times and is gona die anyway. And looking at the km, he most likely woulda died anyway and im sure he couldt lock past 2km anyway
You may want to re-read the descriptions on motherships and other super capitals, that is if you think your sensor damp squad was effecting it. ------------------------------------------------------------------
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djkdhsefkdj
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Posted - 2007.07.06 05:29:00 -
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Originally by: Davlin Lotze Actually the bubbles were not that plentiful and the dictor pilots not that smart tbh because at the range they were at (close, but not smartbomb close) I could have easily dispatched them with drones.
Carriers with remote reps mate =/
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Kirex
Gallente Vale Heavy Industries Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2007.07.06 05:30:00 -
[46]
iirc, CCP doesn't refund super capitals.
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Sensless Killing
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Posted - 2007.07.06 05:31:00 -
[47]
Edited by: Sensless Killing on 06/07/2007 05:30:41
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Ander
Gallente Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.06 05:31:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Davlin Lotze
Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
Originally by: R0ot Well played pandemic, but if you dysnc'd maybe the mothership pilot did also? But nice kill all the same.
Everybody desynced.
Wrong, killmail suggests that your carrier guys had their fighters in play whilst I didn't see a single one of them ever during the fight. Usually, as is evidenced by the various fraps of prior mom kills, etc, a sea of fighter\drones usually envelopes the target.
What you did was that you smartbombed my drones several times. I had to pull them back to remote rep. You sat at ca 69km from me so my remote rep couldnt reach that far.
Also you were moving away from us trying to get out of the bubble for very long time.
EVE PIRATE ANDER! now posting in "orange" |
Alias11
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.06 05:32:00 -
[49]
desynch is the new bookmark bomb
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Capt Rob
Minmatar Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.06 05:33:00 -
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Originally by: R0ot
Originally by: Capt Rob in these kinds of attacks; most of the time a desync stops the ms etc from doing anything to hurt the other guys. most of the time hes already been bubbled a ton of times and is gona die anyway. And looking at the km, he most likely woulda died anyway and im sure he couldt lock past 2km anyway
You may want to re-read the descriptions on motherships and other super capitals, that is if you think your sensor damp squad was effecting it.
ah ya m8, slip of the typing i guess but if you look into the offensive gang; there seems little chance he woulda lived.
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Plaetean
Hybrid Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.07.06 05:34:00 -
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Originally by: Ander
What you did was that you smartbombed my drones several times. I had to pull them back to remote rep. You sat at ca 69km from me so my remote rep couldnt reach that far.
Also you were moving away from us trying to get out of the bubble for very long time.
The orange makes me want to click it.
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HSY are recruiting
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Fred0
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.06 05:34:00 -
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Originally by: Davlin Lotze Complete desynch from the start. I wasn't able to launch a single drone the entire fight.
The petition has been submitted.
So that's why you haven't posted your killmail yet clearly showing you having fighters up and active Hilarious dude!
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Banduril
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.06 05:34:00 -
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Originally by: Davlin Lotze The petition has been submitted.
What a joke
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Ander
Gallente Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.06 05:34:00 -
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What sucked most was the fact I insured my ship expecting the enemy to have a big fleet standing by to support their solopwn-mobile.
Maybe this is a message to all alliances out there that motherships arent solopwn-mobiles that you should use without a sizable fleet?
EVE PIRATE ANDER! now posting in "orange" |
Shamis Orzoz
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.06 05:37:00 -
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Edited by: Shamis Orzoz on 06/07/2007 05:38:04
Originally by: Sebo Darrens
Quote: it went off without a hitch.
Quote: Everybody desynced.
hm, if everyone desynced then how did your op go off exactly as planned? a MoM that can't fight back, support fleets that cant get in to help shoot dictors, a complete turkey shoot thanks to ccp..
was this your plan shamis? I doubt it.
When our cap's jumped in nearly all of them desynched and had to relog.
Our dictors were able to keep bubbling. My alt carrier relogged TWICE during the fight, and he's not the only one.
But the dictors kept dropping bubbles. So we stayed on him.
He almost crept out of the bubbles at one point because many of our dictors also desynched. Had we not all desynched I don't think he would have gotten anywhere near the edge of the bubbles. We had 10 dictors orbiting him at 15km and a mindlinked claymore in gang.
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Ander
Gallente Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.06 05:38:00 -
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Originally by: Sebo Darrens
Quote: it went off without a hitch.
Quote: Everybody desynced.
hm, if everyone desynced then how did your op go off exactly as planned? a MoM that can't fight back, support fleets that cant get in to help shoot dictors, a complete turkey shoot thanks to ccp..
was this your plan shamis? I doubt it.
I spotted 10-20 pilots from MPIRE and FATAL joint gang jumping into local. They burnt outside the bubbles and warped off leaving the cap ship to fend for itself.
EVE PIRATE ANDER! now posting in "orange" |
SATAN
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2007.07.06 05:38:00 -
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Edited by: SATAN on 06/07/2007 05:38:53 Congrats guys,
Do you think he would have been done for if he had control of the ship? Please give us a step by step of the encounter.
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Southern Paladin
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.06 05:38:00 -
[58]
great fun, never saw an op go so sexily smooth.
Pandemic FTW And I'm Spent, -SoPal
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Alias11
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.06 05:38:00 -
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Originally by: Sebo Darrens
Quote: it went off without a hitch.
Quote: Everybody desynced.
hm, if everyone desynced then how did your op go off exactly as planned? a MoM that can't fight back, support fleets that cant get in to help shoot dictors, a complete turkey shoot thanks to ccp..
was this your plan shamis? I doubt it.
Because to make a plan in eve without major accomodations for lag, desyncs, and nodecrashes is nothing short of full-blown ********
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Sebo Darrens
FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.06 05:39:00 -
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not irrelevant - Im saying that a well laid trap can still fail.
But with a desync he's got no chance, so let's not pretend its not relevant.
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With JudgeReinhold
Gallente Legal Team
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Posted - 2007.07.06 05:39:00 -
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Edited by: With JudgeReinhold on 06/07/2007 05:38:58
Originally by: Sebo Darrens
Quote: it went off without a hitch.
Quote: Everybody desynced.
hm, if everyone desynced then how did your op go off exactly as planned? a MoM that can't fight back, support fleets that cant get in to help shoot dictors, a complete turkey shoot thanks to ccp..
was this your plan shamis? I doubt it.
Jeeze you sound like a member of the cryalition.
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Superbus Maximus
Gallente Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.06 05:39:00 -
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Hes dead its done with unless your posting something constructive PL guys don't post anything at all.
Looks at Farscape...
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Ander
Gallente Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.06 05:39:00 -
[63]
Edited by: Ander on 06/07/2007 05:39:41
Originally by: SATAN Congrats guys,
The first time we saw Ernest hanging around us I knew he was more than just some guys trying to be sneaky.
Do you think he would have been done for if he had control of the ship? Please give us a step by step of the encounter.
Wyvern warped to gate to gank something / our "bait". Dictors jumped in and put up bubble. More dictors arrive during the whole engagement. Our cyno ship came in and slowboated within 50km. Our capitalships jumped in.
Bwam.
EVE PIRATE ANDER! now posting in "orange" |
Serilla
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.07.06 05:41:00 -
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gj __________________
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Hubris
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.06 05:41:00 -
[65]
I thought you all knew that de-sync is the new insta you didn't own me excuse to petition....
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Barasu
Minmatar The JORG Corporation FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.06 05:42:00 -
[66]
We had a small Fatal gang together to hopefully help the Mom but we jumped into LXW and warped... wha? "You can not warp while in warp." mega desyncs there. least we got a mega on the way out.
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Altar Mei
Solstice Systems Development Concourse
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Posted - 2007.07.06 05:42:00 -
[67]
Nice kill, funny to see Razor leading the charge in the North (not a flame). I'm curious though I thought Pandemic was down south?
Originally by: CCP Arkanon We're a company of professionals, not some LAN party gone bad.
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Ohne
Minmatar Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.06 05:42:00 -
[68]
Originally by: SATAN Edited by: SATAN on 06/07/2007 05:38:53 Congrats guys,
Do you think he would have been done for if he had control of the ship? Please give us a step by step of the encounter.
For my part, If we wouldnt have desynced, he would have died in about 1 to 2 mins max. Instead he was alive and kicking for at least 5-6 mins and therefore crawled off about 20 kms before he died. (had like 7-8 bubbles in his way though)
The desync made him live longer if anything.
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Woofs
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Posted - 2007.07.06 05:42:00 -
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Come on- stop the whining....
He was outnumbered and his support was nowhere to be found. Had there been no de-sync, he would have died faster.
If you use a mom to gate camp and you do the same thing everyday for two weeks, what exactly do you expect to happen?
The op was well planned and executed. Yes CCP needs to fix de-sync, but the result would have been no different.
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SirMolly
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Posted - 2007.07.06 05:43:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Davlin Lotze Complete desynch from the start. I wasn't able to launch a single drone the entire fight.
The petition has been submitted.
lol, you would have died anyways.
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Ander
Gallente Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.06 05:43:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Barasu We had a small Fatal gang together to hopefully help the Mom but we jumped into LXW and warped... wha? "You can not warp while in warp." mega desyncs there. least we got a mega on the way out.
That's called gangwarp. Your whole gang warped off roughly at the same time as I mentioned earlier when you jumped into LXW.
EVE PIRATE ANDER! now posting in "orange" |
Capt Rob
Minmatar Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.06 05:44:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Altar Mei Nice kill, funny to see Razor leading the charge in the North (not a flame). I'm curious though I thought Pandemic was down south?
were sight seeing:)
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Southern Paladin
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.06 05:45:00 -
[73]
Originally by: SATAN Edited by: SATAN on 06/07/2007 05:38:53 Congrats guys,
Do you think he would have been done for if he had control of the ship? Please give us a step by step of the encounter.
satan, even though he was desynched he was leaving the dictor bubbles and had to keep getting fresh ubble spots to stay in them And I'm Spent, -SoPal
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Barasu
Minmatar The JORG Corporation FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.06 05:50:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Woofs Come on- stop the whining....
He was outnumbered and his support was nowhere to be found. Had there been no de-sync, he would have died faster.
If you use a mom to gate camp and you do the same thing everyday for two weeks, what exactly do you expect to happen?
The op was well planned and executed. Yes CCP needs to fix de-sync, but the result would have been no different.
No where? We were jumping in as soon as we heard there was trouble and we de-sync'd and then it was soon over when we got together again.
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Dylan Rhade
Caldari UK Corp FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.06 05:52:00 -
[75]
Need to jump in here, sorry.
How do we know what actually happened in both sides suffered de-sync?
We know the MoM went down, but as to how many bubbles etc, we will never know the truth.
M.PIRE was de-synched.
So that means hostiles were too, maybe what u saw was just in your head being jumped up on adrenaline and ****ing your nappies?
D
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Barasu
Minmatar The JORG Corporation FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.06 05:52:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Ander
Originally by: Barasu We had a small Fatal gang together to hopefully help the Mom but we jumped into LXW and warped... wha? "You can not warp while in warp." mega desyncs there. least we got a mega on the way out.
That's called gangwarp. Your whole gang warped off roughly at the same time as I mentioned earlier when you jumped into LXW.
We did not gang warp. We warped individually to a person at a safe spot when we de-sync'd, then were going to come attempt to remove some people when we were more organized.
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Woofs
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Posted - 2007.07.06 05:52:00 -
[77]
Keep whining- you were completely outnumbered....
How many ships did you jump in exactly???
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Centauris
Gallente Thundercats RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.06 06:03:00 -
[78]
Bloody well done guys. Good job
Bring on the shooty shooty...Im Uberl33t with MS Paint!
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Beyond Horizon
Black Omega Security
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Posted - 2007.07.06 06:04:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Davlin Lotze Complete desynch from the start. I wasn't able to launch a single drone the entire fight.
The petition has been submitted.
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Petition will NOT be fulfilled, according to all the previous MS losses with de-sync. So go ahead and petition all you want ;D -
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Barasu
Minmatar The JORG Corporation FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.06 06:04:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Woofs Keep whining- you were completely outnumbered....
How many ships did you jump in exactly???
What corp alliance u in? Waiting for ur snip.
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Dylan Rhade
Caldari UK Corp FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.06 06:05:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Capt Rob
Originally by: Altar Mei Nice kill, funny to see Razor leading the charge in the North (not a flame). I'm curious though I thought Pandemic was down south?
were sight seeing:)
Sight seeing?
More like BoB is beating u down there so u ran away whilst u have some ships :)
D
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drako markam
Amarr Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.06 06:07:00 -
[82]
just another day in snigg
a day without blood is like a day without sunshine
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Superbus Maximus
Gallente Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.06 06:09:00 -
[83]
Edited by: Superbus Maximus on 06/07/2007 06:09:47
Originally by: Dylan Rhade
Originally by: Capt Rob
Originally by: Altar Mei Nice kill, funny to see Razor leading the charge in the North (not a flame). I'm curious though I thought Pandemic was down south?
were sight seeing:)
Sight seeing?
More like BoB is beating u down there so u ran away whilst u have some ships :)
D
WTS a clue... We left for venal cause we felt like fighting people that want to pvp.
And since you want to smack I'll sum up your oh so uberness pvp tactics in fountain in two words Run Away!!!!
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Xenny Lee
Minmatar The Splinter Syndicate R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.07.06 06:11:00 -
[84]
While your at it, wanna ask CCP to reimburse all the ships, ammo, stront/jump fuel , baiting and time involved in the catching of said mothership? Also popping not 1, but 10 dictors with maybe half a dozen to a dozen med or light drones before a fleet rapes you is a feet on its own. Not to mention the latest buzz to killing titans is having carriers who jump in remote rep your dictors giving them a near battleship tank less you manage to alpha strike em.
No one plans on losing a MOM, but it would be even more insulting if they reimbursed a Mom, but I have to wait 6 weeks for them to even look at a petition on lag issues for a battleship.
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blkmajik
ZiTek Deepspace Explorations Prime Orbital Systems
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Posted - 2007.07.06 06:12:00 -
[85]
nice job razor/pl! grats to 10th for sniping a spot in the killmail hi siggy o/ too bad nos/neut doesn't count as dps, or you would have beat him for the spot
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Beyond Horizon
Black Omega Security
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Posted - 2007.07.06 06:13:00 -
[86]
Originally by: Dylan Rhade
Originally by: Capt Rob
Originally by: Altar Mei Nice kill, funny to see Razor leading the charge in the North (not a flame). I'm curious though I thought Pandemic was down south?
were sight seeing:)
Sight seeing?
More like BoB is beating u down there so u ran away whilst u have some ships :)
D
Yup, just like you ran away from us in fountain :D
"I'M TIRED OF THE BLOB"
Anyway, to put it seriously: MUAHAHAHAHA -
BH |
SigmaPi
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.06 06:16:00 -
[87]
Originally by: blkmajik nice job razor/pl! grats to 10th for sniping a spot in the killmail hi siggy o/ too bad nos/neut doesn't count as dps, or you would have beat him for the spot
my alt got on, so i'm happy
Nice to see you again mate!
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Wayward Hooligan
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.06 06:18:00 -
[88]
I was there. I shot the Wyvern. I didn't get on the killmail. :(
I need bigger guns.
I shot the Wyvern for like 5 minutes along with everyone else. Shields didn't move.
Relogged and got another lock just as he popped.
Desync was nutty.
Very surprised there was no support fleet there with him.
Especially with a station in system and next door.
Was a fun op either way.
Shamis Orzoz: Cap Boosters are for losers. I don't run out of gas. |
Ohne
Minmatar Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.06 06:19:00 -
[89]
Originally by: Dylan Rhade
Originally by: Capt Rob
Originally by: Altar Mei Nice kill, funny to see Razor leading the charge in the North (not a flame). I'm curious though I thought Pandemic was down south?
were sight seeing:)
Sight seeing?
More like BoB is beating u down there so u ran away whilst u have some ships :)
D
lol
Feel free to check out how well your alliance did driving us out on our killboard :)
We bailed because for some strange reason everybody moves out when we move in :(
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MrRx7
Amarr Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.06 06:19:00 -
[90]
Originally by: blkmajik nice job razor/pl! grats to 10th for sniping a spot in the killmail hi siggy o/ too bad nos/neut doesn't count as dps, or you would have beat him for the spot
sure dont even say hi to me blk :p
Catherina was there :) totally de-synced and not crying about it.
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Dylan Rhade
Caldari UK Corp FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.06 06:19:00 -
[91]
Originally by: Beyond Horizon
Originally by: Dylan Rhade
Originally by: Capt Rob
Originally by: Altar Mei Nice kill, funny to see Razor leading the charge in the North (not a flame). I'm curious though I thought Pandemic was down south?
were sight seeing:)
Sight seeing?
More like BoB is beating u down there so u ran away whilst u have some ships :)
D
Yup, just like you ran away from us in fountain :D
"I'M TIRED OF THE BLOB"
Anyway, to put it seriously: MUAHAHAHAHA
Oh, yess, we ran away from a BoB adjacent system to a region where there be no hostiles whatsoever, yes, we ran away ...
D
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Nelson Vandermark
Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.06 06:22:00 -
[92]
Originally by: Dylan Rhade
Originally by: Beyond Horizon
Originally by: Dylan Rhade
Originally by: Capt Rob
Originally by: Altar Mei Nice kill, funny to see Razor leading the charge in the North (not a flame). I'm curious though I thought Pandemic was down south?
were sight seeing:)
Sight seeing?
More like BoB is beating u down there so u ran away whilst u have some ships :)
D
Yup, just like you ran away from us in fountain :D
"I'M TIRED OF THE BLOB"
Anyway, to put it seriously: MUAHAHAHAHA
Oh, yess, we ran away from a BoB adjacent system to a region where there be no hostiles whatsoever, yes, we ran away ...
D
Please Dylan Rhade, keep posting you are doing good for you alliance.
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Superbus Maximus
Gallente Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.06 06:22:00 -
[93]
Originally by: Dylan Rhade
Originally by: Beyond Horizon
Originally by: Dylan Rhade
Originally by: Capt Rob
Originally by: Altar Mei Nice kill, funny to see Razor leading the charge in the North (not a flame). I'm curious though I thought Pandemic was down south?
were sight seeing:)
Sight seeing?
More like BoB is beating u down there so u ran away whilst u have some ships :)
D
Yup, just like you ran away from us in fountain :D
"I'M TIRED OF THE BLOB"
Anyway, to put it seriously: MUAHAHAHAHA
Oh, yess, we ran away from a BoB adjacent system to a region where there be no hostiles whatsoever, yes, we ran away ...
D
Now your just trolling buddy get over yourself.
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merc999
Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.06 06:22:00 -
[94]
Nice job guys...
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Necro EvilZombie
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.06 06:24:00 -
[95]
Nice job guys, wish I could have been online at the time.
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Randay
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.07.06 06:25:00 -
[96]
so what is eve at now for momships? 6? 7?
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Gneeznow
Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.06 06:27:00 -
[97]
Originally by: Dylan Rhade yes, we ran away ...
qft
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Superbus Maximus
Gallente Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.06 06:27:00 -
[98]
Originally by: Randay so what is eve at now for momships? 6? 7?
As in killed or left alive?
I believe that was the first Wyvern to be killed and the 4th MoM to be killed maybe 5th.
Left I alive I have no Idea.
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Mitch Taylor
Caldari Dark-Rising Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.07.06 06:28:00 -
[99]
Edited by: Mitch Taylor on 06/07/2007 06:31:46 Its great to see people plan and execute these kind of kills, gives a whole new level to pvp that makes me smile.
It is however a real shame that the dysync issue is cropping up time after time. It would appear the servers simply cannot deal with these sorts of battles and with more and more of these super caps in play and holding space relying more and more on cap warfare I can only assume the issue will get worse before it improves.
Congrats on your kill, but im sure everyone in this thread would agree, if the agressed can fight back it makes it alot more interesting for all involved.
If I lost mine without being able to take anything with me due to dysync, id be mighty peaved aswell.
Mitch
Dark-Rising
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Shamis Orzoz
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.06 06:30:00 -
[100]
Originally by: Mitch Taylor It is however a real shame that the dysync issue is cropping up time after time. It would appear the servers simply cannot deal with these sorts of battles and with more and more of these super caps in play and holding space relying more and more on cap warefare I can only assume the issue will get worse before it improves.
The sad thing is, I don't think local ever went above 100 people. Before Rev2 I don't remember 100 people ever being a problem.
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Randay
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.07.06 06:31:00 -
[101]
Originally by: Superbus Maximus
Originally by: Randay so what is eve at now for momships? 6? 7?
As in killed or left alive?
I believe that was the first Wyvern to be killed and the 4th MoM to be killed maybe 5th.
Left I alive I have no Idea.
killed ofc, nobody celebrates thier births, only deaths. theres probably like over 40+ alive anyway. I think this is also STKs second mom loss. i pity thier capital construction dude.
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rus6
Macabre Votum INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.07.06 06:32:00 -
[102]
Good job on the MS kill, they are tricky beasts to kill I know I've tried to kill enough of them :)
Regarding the dsync I can't see how they will refund it, there are threads I've posted in where no one has got their stuff back from dsyncs. People have sent in fraps and logserver reports and still no joy.
See the last couple of threads I've posted in as I'm sure we would all like the dsync's fixed.
see:
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=542058
and
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=549542
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Beyond Horizon
Black Omega Security
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Posted - 2007.07.06 06:33:00 -
[103]
Originally by: Ohne
We bailed because for some strange reason everybody moves out when we move in :(
LoL
\o Nelson =] -
BH |
Gneeznow
Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.06 06:34:00 -
[104]
Originally by: Randay
Originally by: Superbus Maximus
Originally by: Randay so what is eve at now for momships? 6? 7?
As in killed or left alive?
I believe that was the first Wyvern to be killed and the 4th MoM to be killed maybe 5th.
Left I alive I have no Idea.
killed ofc, nobody celebrates thier births, only deaths. theres probably like over 40+ alive anyway. I think this is also STKs second mom loss. i pity thier capital construction dude.
iirc that wyvern is an ex imperial order MS, i've run into it before (if it is indeed the same ship) I had a fierce skirmish with it in my rupture in Kbp7 in providence about 3 months ago, I lost 5 warrior I's and tactically withdrew
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blkmajik
ZiTek Deepspace Explorations Prime Orbital Systems
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Posted - 2007.07.06 06:35:00 -
[105]
Originally by: MrRx7 sure dont even say hi to me blk :p
Catherina was there :) totally de-synced and not crying about it.
you didn't make the killmail, so i dint know you where there MORE DPS, RX! Its hard keeping track of everyones alts! but hey.....grats! happy now?
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Ohne
Minmatar Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.06 06:36:00 -
[106]
Edited by: Ohne on 06/07/2007 06:36:33
Originally by: Mitch Taylor Edited by: Mitch Taylor on 06/07/2007 06:31:46 Its great to see people plan and execute these kind of kills, gives a whole new level to pvp that makes me smile.
It is however a real shame that the dysync issue is cropping up time after time. It would appear the servers simply cannot deal with these sorts of battles and with more and more of these super caps in play and holding space relying more and more on cap warfare I can only assume the issue will get worse before it improves.
Congrats on your kill, but im sure everyone in this thread would agree, if the agressed can fight back it makes it alot more interesting for all involved.
If I lost mine without being able to take anything with me due to dysync, id be mighty peaved aswell.
Mitch
I was in a 4 man recon/bs fight the other night. 1 extra jumped in to help, total of 6 in system. Everybody desynced.
This seems to be a bug rather then some lag issue.
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Red Mouse
REUNI0N Red Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.06 06:37:00 -
[107]
Good job, Shamis.
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Mitch Taylor
Caldari Dark-Rising Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.07.06 06:38:00 -
[108]
Originally by: Ohne
I was in a 4 man recon/bs fight the other night. 1 extra jumped in to help, total of 6 in system. Everybody desynced.
This seems to be a bug rather then some lag issue.
Agreed, I had dysync with 20 in system recently... mods!! sort this out for us eh.
Dark-Rising
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Bren MacKay
Shadows of the Dead Aftermath Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.06 06:40:00 -
[109]
Edited by: Bren MacKay on 06/07/2007 06:39:58 A definite blow to our side of the war but congradulations on the mom kill, from what I hear its a shame about the terrible state of the server, I'm sure all involved would of been happier to see it go down under more synced server conditions.
... But seriously secound best namned nos on a mom? - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
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TenthReality
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.06 06:41:00 -
[110]
Originally by: blkmajik nice job razor/pl! grats to 10th for sniping a spot in the killmail hi siggy o/ too bad nos/neut doesn't count as dps, or you would have beat him for the spot
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KillmAll187
FATAL REVELATIONS
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Posted - 2007.07.06 06:44:00 -
[111]
Originally by: Ohne
Originally by: SATAN Edited by: SATAN on 06/07/2007 05:38:53 Congrats guys,
Do you think he would have been done for if he had control of the ship? Please give us a step by step of the encounter.
For my part, If we wouldnt have desynced, he would have died in about 1 to 2 mins max. Instead he was alive and kicking for at least 5-6 mins and therefore crawled off about 20 kms before he died. (had like 7-8 bubbles in his way though)
The desync made him live longer if anything.
You are mad. Look at the Helen Aeon killmail. You fleet had 4 dreads? PFFFF. I was in a helios the whole time. Switched to Dictor overview and counted 6 with 1 dictor wreck-so that makes 7. No way only 7 interdictors can keep the mothership there, ya know, if the game works. I know this is about EPEEN waving and all that, but you guys have to admit the kill is sort of tainted.
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Southern Paladin
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.06 06:51:00 -
[112]
FRAPS OF WRECK!!!!Oonnelleven
Was off killin their random ships and forgot to turn it on until after it all cooled down.
And I'm Spent, -SoPal
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Garek
COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.07.06 06:52:00 -
[113]
Originally by: Davlin Lotze Complete desynch from the start. I wasn't able to launch a single drone the entire fight.
The petition has been submitted.
No super Capital ship will ever be reimbursed, as CCP quoted before. Sorry dude but you lost it
Have a nice Day ----------------------------------------------
Nothing... |
Ander
Gallente Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.06 06:52:00 -
[114]
Originally by: KillmAll187
Originally by: Ohne
Originally by: SATAN Edited by: SATAN on 06/07/2007 05:38:53 Congrats guys,
Do you think he would have been done for if he had control of the ship? Please give us a step by step of the encounter.
For my part, If we wouldnt have desynced, he would have died in about 1 to 2 mins max. Instead he was alive and kicking for at least 5-6 mins and therefore crawled off about 20 kms before he died. (had like 7-8 bubbles in his way though)
The desync made him live longer if anything.
You are mad. Look at the Helen Aeon killmail. You fleet had 4 dreads? PFFFF. I was in a helios the whole time. Switched to Dictor overview and counted 6 with 1 dictor wreck-so that makes 7. No way only 7 interdictors can keep the mothership there, ya know, if the game works. I know this is about EPEEN waving and all that, but you guys have to admit the kill is sort of tainted.
Maybe not prepatch. But post-patch dictors are way more usable vs ms/titans.
EVE PIRATE ANDER! now posting in "orange" |
Wayward Hooligan
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.06 06:54:00 -
[115]
Edited by: Wayward Hooligan on 06/07/2007 06:54:31
Quote:
1. STK Scientific (I think when they were with invictis?) - Helen's Aeon 2. RA - Greenhalf's Nyx 3. IAC - Gerontiq's Nyx 4. BOB - King Leonidas's Aeon 5. M.PIRE (STK Again) - Davlin Lotze's Wyvern
Looks like we need to go Hel hunting.
Who's got one?
I think I have a locator agent kicking around somewhere.
Shamis Orzoz: Cap Boosters are for losers. I don't run out of gas. |
R0ot
Got R0ot
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Posted - 2007.07.06 06:56:00 -
[116]
Edited by: R0ot on 06/07/2007 07:05:46 Edited by: R0ot on 06/07/2007 06:55:51
Originally by: Wayward Hooligan Edited by: Wayward Hooligan on 06/07/2007 06:54:31
Quote:
1. STK Scientific (I think when they were with invictis?) - Helen's Aeon 2. RA - Greenhalf's Nyx 3. IAC - Gerontiq's Nyx 4. BOB - King Leonidas's Aeon 5. M.PIRE (STK Again) - Davlin Lotze's Wyvern
Who's got one?
I think I have a locator agent kicking around somewhere.
Looks like we need to go Hel hunting.
Afaik BoB and MC are the only one's with Hel's but i'm more than likely wrong, im sure RA have a hel floating about somewhere.
EDIT 2: Note to self quoting system is bad mkay
------------------------------------------------------------------ I don't think ill ever get it right... |
Lachesis Moirae
Gallente Anqara Expeditions The OSS
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Posted - 2007.07.06 06:59:00 -
[117]
Nice kill.
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Centauris
Gallente Thundercats RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.06 07:01:00 -
[118]
Edited by: Centauris on 06/07/2007 07:01:25
Originally by: R0ot Edited by: R0ot on 06/07/2007 06:55:51
Originally by: Wayward Hooligan Edited by: Wayward Hooligan on 06/07/2007 06:54:31
Quote:
1. STK Scientific (I think when they were with invictis?) - Helen's Aeon 2. RA - Greenhalf's Nyx 3. IAC - Gerontiq's Nyx 4. BOB - King Leonidas's Aeon 5. M.PIRE (STK Again) - Davlin Lotze's Wyvern
Who's got one?
I think I have a locator agent kicking around somewhere.
Afaik BoB and MC are the only one's with Hel's but i'm more than likely wrong, im sure RA have a hel floating about somewhere.
Looks like we need to go Hel hunting.
Velios- CEO M.Corp flys a Hel
Bring on the shooty shooty...Im Uberl33t with MS Paint!
"Kill, Collect, Sell" |
Aggape
Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2007.07.06 07:04:00 -
[119]
Edited by: Aggape on 06/07/2007 07:04:10
Originally by: R0ot
Afaik BoB and MC are the only one's with Hel's but i'm more than likely wrong, im sure RA have a hel floating about somewhere.
Looks like we need to go Hel hunting.
CE has a Hel. (kraftwerk. alliance)
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Odin Starwanderer
Russian SOBR Red Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.06 07:08:00 -
[120]
BIG GZ Snigg! __________________ If you want to win a war, you must serve no master but your ambition.
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Apollyon X
Dark Knights of Deneb Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.07.06 07:10:00 -
[121]
awsome kill
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Tassill
Minmatar GREY COUNCIL Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.07.06 07:22:00 -
[122]
Grats guys, its a nice kill
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Akov Stohs
FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.06 07:23:00 -
[123]
Having so many BOS members on my friends list was quiet amusing. They where logging on and off so quick that I couldn't really see which of them where coming and going.
As for the system count, it spiked 170 according to my screen, not that it did any good. We attempted to engage 4 separate times and where unable to do so 3 times. The 4th we managed to get a mega and forced a bunch of others to warp off until they brought their carriers back in which caused us to once again desync, so we left the field of battle frustrated at not being able to fight because of CCP. Honestly, if the servers where up to snuff, things probably would of happened a lot different. Not saying that the mom would of not died, but atleast you guys would of had a fight. Instead yall got to engage a lone mothership that was fairly unable to fight back, and a support fleet that was unable to do anything to you.
It wasn't a good kill, but take the ego petting as you will. But every one can agree that dieing like that is probably the worst way possible, if you're happy with killing like that. Then Congrats, good kill. Otherwise....ccp, fix the game. my sig is too big |
Seke Faewyn
Caldari Sniggerdly
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Posted - 2007.07.06 07:29:00 -
[124]
Nice Kill
Grats to Razor and PL for a job well done.
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Tearavygh Quillam
Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.06 07:29:00 -
[125]
Awesome job, pityful thread due to pityful game conditions!!!
Once again, well done Ernest, RZR and PL!!!
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Adm Tecumseh
Caldari Frequently Asked Questions
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Posted - 2007.07.06 07:30:00 -
[126]
Originally by: hangnoose
Originally by: Fred0
Originally by: Davlin Lotze Complete desynch from the start. I wasn't able to launch a single drone the entire fight.
The petition has been submitted.
So that's why you haven't posted your killmail yet clearly showing you having fighters up and active Hilarious dude!
I love your fittings in pic 2. I guess you were there as the camera man only????
Errr fred0 he did post it
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Adm Tecumseh
Caldari Frequently Asked Questions
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Posted - 2007.07.06 07:39:00 -
[127]
Originally by: Phelan Lore pic 1 pic 2 pic 3
I like your fittings in PIC 2, obviously you were just there as the camera man.
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Superbus Maximus
Gallente Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.06 07:41:00 -
[128]
Originally by: Adm Tecumseh
Originally by: Phelan Lore pic 1 pic 2 pic 3
I like your fittings in PIC 2, obviously you were just there as the camera man.
Nope he de-snyced and got popped early on. Bad stuff seems to happen to Phelan when I am in local
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Deva Blackfire
Citadel of dark arts
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Posted - 2007.07.06 07:42:00 -
[129]
Good job RZR
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bsspewer
Caldari Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.07.06 07:43:00 -
[130]
Originally by: Southern Paladin FRAPS OF WRECK!!!!Oonnelleven
Was off killin their random ships and forgot to turn it on until after it all cooled down.
eww.. are you one of those people who take a photograph of a person, only to have the photo show the supercloseup of their chin and their eyes/top of head is cropped off?
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Shirei
Minmatar Cutting Edge Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.07.06 07:44:00 -
[131]
Originally by: Davlin Lotze Complete desynch from the start. I wasn't able to launch a single drone the entire fight.
The petition has been submitted.
You got a killmail with your Templars, so you clearly managed to launch some drones.
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Tearavygh Quillam
Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.06 08:20:00 -
[132]
Originally by: Natsuki 6m tech 2 destroyer > 30b mothership.
balance ftw?
Because unkillable ships (clumsyness put aside) were surely balanced...
Rev2 brought nice changes and mass desynch...
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Superbus Maximus
Gallente Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.06 08:22:00 -
[133]
Edited by: Superbus Maximus on 06/07/2007 08:24:17
Originally by: Lakhthaar If you read the entire post you'll notice the OP mentions the desynch before Davlin was on here to mention it. Support fleet reports desynch issues as well. There has been complaints of this issue recently.
I certainly wont take credit away from your guy's efforts. But, if I ever get a kill on a MS or a Titan I certainly hope they have the ability to at least defend themselves.
Its not like we planned the server taking a crap. I couldn't even get on the kill mail with myself or alts because it was so bad. We had this planned for about a week as well. And it sounds like you guys had a sizable fleet ready to come try and save it. It is a shame he lost it this way, but tbh I am 100% positive he would have died despite the de-sync. He went down in less than 5mins and most of our capitals could not even lock him. And I do hope he gets his ship back along with every cap pilot that lost one this way, because these server issues are fing BS, but part of me hopes he doesn't
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Farscape Hw
Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.06 08:28:00 -
[134]
Originally by: Noig Lamaroz
Originally by: Akov Stohs Instead yall got to engage a lone mothership that was fairly unable to fight back, and a support fleet that was unable to do anything to you.
It wasn't a good kill, but take the ego petting as you will. But every one can agree that dieing like that is probably the worst way possible, if you're happy with killing like that. Then Congrats, good kill
I somewhat remember similiar thread aages back with a killed titan and alliances we shall not mention.. And in such thread, people just like you boasted about the kill..
Kill is a kill is a kill, there's allways whiners on the side that lost it and bragging on the side that killed it.. Logged off, Logged On, desynched, fighting with grim teeths back.. Foo cares.. It allways comes down to other side whining to whatever and how game mechanics or anything else discriminated 'em in the fight..
On the final note, grats for PL/Razor for the kill.
the desyncs made the experience total crap... i would have at least liked to have seen him be able to fight back. but i honestly do not think he would have survived with the fleet we had. it doesnt matter that his suport couldnt/wouldnt come in. there were not nearly enough of them to dent what we had.
if the suport had decided to come in, we woulda gotten more kills, and maybe lost a couple dictors.
when he made the decision to warp to the bkg gate, he was going to lose that mothership regardess.
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alpha charlie
Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.06 08:30:00 -
[135]
PLANNING AN OP AT 4:00 ftl SHAMIS
p>s I HATE YOU
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Gnulpie
Minmatar Miner Tech
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Posted - 2007.07.06 08:41:00 -
[136]
Congratulations to the shipkill and comforts to STK.
I wonder when the supercapital pilots in 0.0 finally learn that flying around with their ship alone and without a decent support fleet will mean certain death. Because nothing else it is.
The desync matter is laughable, yes, blame all the desync for the shiploss - but I wonder...maybe it was not the desync which made the shipkill possible but the complete lack of support on the one side and the many dictor pilots and capitals on the other side? Honestly, how would have a perfectly working environment would have saved the mom? I don't think that sending the drones and fighters after the dictors would have been goon enough. No, the mistake was to go out without support gang.
It seems the only save place for the supercapitals as solo pwnmobiles is now low sec empire space.
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Dionisius
Gallente Critical Analysis Te-Ka
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Posted - 2007.07.06 09:03:00 -
[137]
Originally by: Natsuki
Originally by: Ander
Originally by: Natsuki 6m tech 2 destroyer > 30b mothership.
balance ftw?
There fixed it for ya. 11x capitalships or more + 10x t2 destroyers + 60 support fleet > 30b mothership
if you knew how to play eve, you'd probably realize it only takes about 3 dictors to hold a ms indefinately until help arrives.
NEWS FLASH BOBIT BOY!!!!!
- THATS WHAT DICTORS ARE FOR!!!!!!
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Roger Arko
Geddonites
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Posted - 2007.07.06 09:12:00 -
[138]
Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam
Originally by: Natsuki 6m tech 2 destroyer > 30b mothership.
balance ftw?
Because unkillable ships (clumsyness put aside) were surely balanced...
Rev2 brought nice changes and mass desynch...
Motherships were quite killable in 0.0 space even pre Rev2.0. I have a big doubt CCP will reimburse this MS for M.Pire, but if the pilot really got desynched from the very begin (which is quite possible since the Rev 2.0 as we know) and therefor didn't have even a little chance to survive... then it'd be fair to get it reimbursed.
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Velios
M. Corp M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.07.06 09:16:00 -
[139]
/me sighs...
This is not the news I wanted to read in the morning with my corn flakes.
Does anyone know if Snigg / PL have a mothership? because we will certainly return the favour.
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Astarte Nosferatu
MBN Holding Corporation
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Posted - 2007.07.06 09:16:00 -
[140]
Originally by: Tomas Ysidro
Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
Ernest and I planned the attack for several days, and it went off without a hitch.
You tease, what was the plan? :P
Wild guess here, bait a Mothership and kill it?
Originally by: Dianabolic I was sworn to absolute secrecy by CCP
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Strategos
Banned Society
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Posted - 2007.07.06 09:19:00 -
[141]
Originally by: Natsuki
Originally by: Ander
Originally by: Natsuki 6m tech 2 destroyer > 30b mothership.
balance ftw?
There fixed it for ya. 11x capitalships or more + 10x t2 destroyers + 60 support fleet > 30b mothership
if you knew how to play eve, you'd probably realize it only takes about 3 dictors to hold a ms indefinately until help arrives.
The MS pilot was dumb enough to engage a Domi without intel trying to be "cool" and you're saying the people who set the trap and pulled it off don't know how to play?
Typical BoB. How's Molle btw?
---Sig---
*WARNING* Do not look at my portrait for more then two seconds or it will jump out at you and kill you DEAD! Done :) -Ivan K |
Rex Mundus
League of Gentlemen
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Posted - 2007.07.06 09:22:00 -
[142]
Originally by: Natsuki
Originally by: Ander
Originally by: Natsuki 6m tech 2 destroyer > 30b mothership.
balance ftw?
There fixed it for ya. 11x capitalships or more + 10x t2 destroyers + 60 support fleet > 30b mothership
if you knew how to play eve, you'd probably realize it only takes about 3 dictors to hold a ms indefinately until help arrives.
You said it yourself, 3 t2 destroyers can't beat the MS, but they can hold it in place to give support time to arrive - that's their role. The MS is also supposed to have support as well, it's role isn't solo ship of ultimate doom
But props to your attitude and way of looking at things, sure you'll go far in your alliance as you have just the kind of outlook and attitude they thrive on.
Gratz to PL and Razor for pulling this off
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Mirasta
Aggressive Tendencies
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Posted - 2007.07.06 09:27:00 -
[143]
Originally by: Natsuki
Originally by: Ander
Originally by: Natsuki 6m tech 2 destroyer > 30b mothership.
balance ftw?
There fixed it for ya. 11x capitalships or more + 10x t2 destroyers + 60 support fleet > 30b mothership
if you knew how to play eve, you'd probably realize it only takes about 3 dictors to hold a ms indefinately until help arrives.
Yea, Totally aggree.
THE HELP IN THIS CASE WAS THE 7 OTHER DICTORS
3 might be enough, it doesn't hurt to bring more. Your signature image is hazardous to the health of the forum users :(, please email mods@ccpgames if you have any questions. - Tallan
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lles
Roving Guns Inc. RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.06 09:36:00 -
[144]
Originally by: Akov Stohs Having so many BOS members on my friends list was quiet amusing. They where logging on and off so quick that I couldn't really see which of them where coming and going.
As for the system count, it spiked 170 according to my screen, not that it did any good. We attempted to engage 4 separate times and where unable to do so 3 times.
Local never get higher than 90 on my screen. Never saw any of you guys in the fight. Ernest got popped tho by the MS with fighters and some BS and support...
Relogfest...
Like said, all the dictors kept desyncing and relogging, probably the relogging saves alot of them from being popped...
All within game mechanics...only had to log three times..
First reaction on TS after it blowed up : THis was ****!
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Murina
Gallente FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.06 09:43:00 -
[145]
Personaly im sick of seeing super capitals getting popped because of the arrogance or stupidity of the pilots.
Congratulations on the kill no matter how you got it as far as im concerned both partys in the fight got exactly what they deserved.
The mom pilot got popped for using it in a stupid way and razor and buddys proly got the kill because he proly did it a lot and was predictable.
desink/lag/dictors/support fleets/hostile fleets.
ALL B******S
A MS with no support or other capitals and not being used for full fleet ops but as a solo gank ship against a domi deserves to be killed.
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Don Z0LA
Caldari TunDraGon
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Posted - 2007.07.06 09:54:00 -
[146]
keep up the good work shamis & co. :)
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Corporati Capitalis
Tollan Technologies
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Posted - 2007.07.06 09:56:00 -
[147]
I don't know who got desynch-ed and who didn't, and whether the kill was deserved or not, but I sure like the fittings on that Wyvern. That's some hardcore setup, especially the E500. Mmmm, yes.
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Asonad
Minmatar Spectrum Solutions INC Phalanx Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.06 09:57:00 -
[148]
Nice work
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Ademius Knortak
coracao ardente Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.07.06 10:01:00 -
[149]
gratz on the kill well executed
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Waut
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.07.06 10:06:00 -
[150]
Nice work
In Soviet EVE, roids pop YOU
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Divine Beauty
North Eastern Swat
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Posted - 2007.07.06 10:06:00 -
[151]
Well it was to late for me to participate unfortunatley :-(
Gratz to our killers for popping this mom. Next time pick a time in the euro timezone for killing a mom or titan!
And to CCP: Stop sucking, fix your servers
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ACHURA CALDARIAN
Roving Guns Inc. RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.06 10:13:00 -
[152]
Originally by: Murina Personaly im sick of seeing super capitals getting popped because of the arrogance or stupidity of the pilots.
Congratulations on the kill no matter how you got it as far as im concerned both partys in the fight got exactly what they deserved.
The mom pilot got popped for using it in a stupid way and razor and buddys proly got the kill because he proly did it a lot and was predictable.
desink/lag/dictors/support fleets/hostile fleets.
ALL B******S
A MS with no support or other capitals and not being used for full fleet ops but as a solo gank ship against a domi deserves to be killed.
well before saying GJ to our guys and PL i have to congradulate you having the balls for your exlplanation in short way
regards that there are still someone have proud
REGARDS
WE ARE THE GRANDSONS OF A THUNDERMAKER NATION
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Divus
Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.06 10:17:00 -
[153]
Edited by: Divus on 06/07/2007 10:17:16 first Wyvern-kill eh?
excellent job guys -------------------------------------------------
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KillmAll187
FATAL REVELATIONS
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Posted - 2007.07.06 10:20:00 -
[154]
Originally by: Corporati Capitalis I don't know who got desynch-ed and who didn't, and whether the kill was deserved or not, but I sure like the fittings on that Wyvern. That's some hardcore setup, especially the E500. Mmmm, yes.
What's your Wyvern got?
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WildSide
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.07.06 10:28:00 -
[155]
first: nice planning to Sniigg and Shamis.
second: Even u clam that he would have died anyway its too bad that he never even got the chance to have a chance to get out. Its just silly. Its ruins the "kill reputation" even for u guys, as well as it ofc made it impossible for the wyvern pilot to do anything sensible. When u says: "but he did things...like fireing smart bombs and moving", it doest prove much , when such lags and de-sync appears the moduls just keep fireing on auto ...that was activated before the accually de-sync untill it runs out of ammo or doesnt have enough cap to activate. atleast thats my experince.
I know it ofc isnt Sniggs fault that he desynced..since I heavly doubt shamis is ThA HaXXor..or Dev But its still ****ty and kinda unfair that it happen.
I personaly wouldnt whine or think it was bad...if the ship got reimbrused.
Vids produced by me
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Ace Frehley
Minmatar Trinity Nova KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.06 10:28:00 -
[156]
Nice Kill
Btw Ander smells
/me fnissar _______________________________________________
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gimmemoneyhoney
Krupp Industries und Werfe
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Posted - 2007.07.06 10:29:00 -
[157]
what surived? (whats to know whats its fitting was)
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NightmareX
Caldari Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.07.06 10:32:00 -
[158]
You should be very lucky if you get the ship back after this, since i got killed because of this crappy desync some days ago, we was only like 15-16 in local to, and the desync almost hit us all in local, luckily i only lost a Hurricane. I only got the standard crap answer back from the GM, sorry, but we couldn't find anything wrong in the log, so i didn't got my ship back
So i wouldn't call this a good kill or nice work, because i know how it is to lose a ship to desync, and it sucks.
Infinitus Odium - We Are The Bringers Of Hatred |
Barthezz
Paradox v2.0 Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.07.06 10:37:00 -
[159]
STK is not having a good quarter, I'll cry for them :
First they get ripped off and now they lose one of their MS (do STK have any left now?).
I do think though that the whole desync thing is getting very dodgy, it makes any grand-scale pvp impossible. As for a couple of dictors pinning down a mothership, not entirely sure what to think about that. A MS fearing 1-2 dictors is a bit much.
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Callthetruth
Caldari Logical Logtistics
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Posted - 2007.07.06 10:40:00 -
[160]
well support ships are needed now things are once again balanced but again darwin selection will come into play
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Silvestri
Knights of Chaos Chaos Incarnate.
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Posted - 2007.07.06 10:41:00 -
[161]
All your*****yness of "We'll get it back" I hope CCP laugh at you and say next time don't be so stupid. Great job S******dly and the rest of Pandemic Legion and all involved....
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Ogodai John
The Bakhunov Family
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Posted - 2007.07.06 10:44:00 -
[162]
Originally by: Barthezz A MS fearing 1-2 dictors is a bit much.
If it were only 2 dictors that killed the MS - yes. But it wasnt, it was a whole fleet + a lot of dictors keeping it in place. If some hero decides to use a supercap to gank some stranglers on his own, its his own incompetence that got his expensive toy killed. |
scififreak
Minmatar The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.07.06 10:49:00 -
[163]
Congrats guys!
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God's Army
Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.07.06 10:53:00 -
[164]
Good job fellas. -- In Soviet Russia, the car drives you |
Verone
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.07.06 10:55:00 -
[165]
Nice job guys, really well played.
>>> THE BEAUTY OF NEW EDEN <<<
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welsh wizard
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.07.06 10:56:00 -
[166]
Edited by: welsh wizard on 06/07/2007 10:57:02
Originally by: Natsuki 6m tech 2 destroyer > 30b mothership.
balance ftw?
Erm yeah actually. If you fly a mothership around without support then expect to die (I'm not saying Davlin does). Thats precisely how capitals should be regardless of the cost.
Tech I friggies contribute towards the demise of much larger and more expensive ships everyday and have done since day one, should price dictate your ships ability to stay alive if you fly carelessly?
In this particular incidence it was unfortunate that pretty much everyone desynced so the fight wasn't what it could have been but the interdictors did precisely what they were designed to do.
I'm pretty sure CCP designed the mothership to be the ultimate support ship for a fleet, without that support its a vulnerable whale, just like a Carrier without a Frigate & Destroyer screen in real life.
Oh, and fix the damn desyncs fgs.
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Phrixus Zephyr
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.07.06 10:58:00 -
[167]
Battle report or STFU
Originally by: Benglada And whos going to tackle for them? Jesus?
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Roger Arko
Geddonites
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Posted - 2007.07.06 10:59:00 -
[168]
Originally by: Callthetruth well support ships are needed now things are once again balanced but again darwin selection will come into play
Bittery irony, isn't it? CCP introduced the Rev2.0 as anti-blob warfare implementation patch, but in fact with the nerfage of supercaps they turned em into most blob depended ships in the game (due to their incredibly high price?). Probably we won't see motherships and Titans in 0.0 without the huge support blob anymore.
GG CCP.
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welsh wizard
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.07.06 11:03:00 -
[169]
Originally by: Roger Arko
Originally by: Callthetruth well support ships are needed now things are once again balanced but again darwin selection will come into play
Bittery irony, isn't it? CCP introduced the Rev2.0 as anti-blob warfare implementation patch, but in fact with the nerfage of supercaps they turned em into most blob depended ships in the game (due to their incredibly high price?). Probably we won't see motherships and Titans in 0.0 without the huge support blob anymore.
GG CCP.
But this is good, its the server thats the problem now, not the game mechanics.
Infinitely better imo.
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band0fdevs
Gallente Band of Dev's
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Posted - 2007.07.06 11:06:00 -
[170]
Originally by: Roger Arko
Originally by: Callthetruth well support ships are needed now things are once again balanced but again darwin selection will come into play
Bittery irony, isn't it? CCP introduced the Rev2.0 as anti-blob warfare implementation patch, but in fact with the nerfage of supercaps they turned em into most blob depended ships in the game (due to their incredibly high price?). Probably we won't see motherships and Titans in 0.0 without the huge support blob anymore.
GG CCP.
well they are primarily anti POS and outpost battering rams anyway - carriers are also useful anti blobbish and anti capital ships
CCP have made the BS and numbers count now logistics is more important its balanced and it may take bob a while to adjust ( or expand their own numbers)
expect CCP to make more changes but i think a lot of epeen players will now come to rely more on their support fleets to attack and defend space
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Goktar illiat
Gallente DAB RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.06 11:07:00 -
[171]
Originally by: Barthezz STK is not having a good quarter, I'll cry for them :
Also they forgot to post a carrier from earlier
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band0fdevs
Gallente Band of Dev's
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Posted - 2007.07.06 11:08:00 -
[172]
Originally by: Goktar illiat
Originally by: Barthezz STK is not having a good quarter, I'll cry for them :
Also they forgot to post a carrier from earlier
their losses are able to be replaced or not ?
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Roger Arko
Geddonites
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Posted - 2007.07.06 11:13:00 -
[173]
Originally by: welsh wizard
But this is good, its the server thats the problem now, not the game mechanics.
Infinitely better imo.
Well, agree for the most part. The only what is not so good - even more increased necessary in blobbing. Titans were a good anti-blob weapon pre-Rev 2.0, but if you played smart you could avoid the DD in most cases, so they weren't THAT overpowered and encouraged the fleets to play smart and to not blob too much. Motherships as you know (and probably better than me :P) were killable in 0.0 pre Rev 2.0. It wasn't easy, but it was possible. Altho, motherships remain unkillable in a low sec Empire space, so no improvement on this part.
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Oli4Oli4
Viper Squad Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.07.06 11:15:00 -
[174]
imo to bad that the guy is crying so mutch. He lost it while he was griefing around without support yet another time...
Good job Pandemic Legion & RZR. Great work i would say nice planning and nice yuo have enough waves of tacklers/dictors. And to bad his E500 spoils the mail a bit
Flame on!
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band0fdevs
Gallente Band of Dev's
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Posted - 2007.07.06 11:17:00 -
[175]
Originally by: Oli4Oli4 imo to bad that the guy is crying so mutch. He lost it while he was griefing around without support yet another time...
Good job Pandemic Legion & RZR. Great work i would say nice planning and nice yuo have enough waves of tacklers/dictors. And to bad his E500 spoils the mail a bit
Flame on!
obviously he will only have limited funds at some point he will quit or wake up or fade into a BS or whatever. I like this game that way because its a constant evolution
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Barthezz
Paradox v2.0 Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.07.06 11:21:00 -
[176]
Originally by: Ogodai John
Originally by: Barthezz A MS fearing 1-2 dictors is a bit much.
If it were only 2 dictors that killed the MS - yes. But it wasnt, it was a whole fleet + a lot of dictors keeping it in place. If some hero decides to use a supercap to gank some stranglers on his own, its his own incompetence that got his expensive toy killed.
Well your saying that, but 1-2 dictors (well 3 as a bob guy said) can keep a MS pinned long enough for a fleet to come from miles away. I'm all for making super caps killable, but this is a bit too easy imho.
Anyways its something super cap pilots will have to live with and adapt to (though I do think its a bit 'too easy'). Probably fits their 'easier to built' profile as in 44 or so days the first capital systems start to pop up.
I'll still shed a tear for STK though, they had so much bad luck lately
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HotSeat
Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.06 11:24:00 -
[177]
Great job guys!!
I lost power sitting in my carrier, looks like about 5-10 minutes before final jump :(
Would have been nice too put that KM in Serena's bio
As too the de-sync, sorry wouldn't have made a difference, you where set up and fell for it, happens too us all.
We build these ships too loose, the challange is building them in the first place, feel proud you fielded a MS, and had the balls to fight with it. o/
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band0fdevs
Gallente Band of Dev's
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Posted - 2007.07.06 11:26:00 -
[178]
Originally by: Barthezz
Originally by: Ogodai John
Originally by: Barthezz A MS fearing 1-2 dictors is a bit much.
If it were only 2 dictors that killed the MS - yes. But it wasnt, it was a whole fleet + a lot of dictors keeping it in place. If some hero decides to use a supercap to gank some stranglers on his own, its his own incompetence that got his expensive toy killed.
Well your saying that, but 1-2 dictors (well 3 as a bob guy said) can keep a MS pinned long enough for a fleet to come from miles away. I'm all for making super caps killable, but this is a bit too easy imho.
Anyways its something super cap pilots will have to live with and adapt to (though I do think its a bit 'too easy'). Probably fits their 'easier to built' profile as in 44 or so days the first capital systems start to pop up.
I'll still shed a tear for STK though, they had so much bad luck lately
why does the mothership-carrier not have a support gang of 10 recon ships to deal with the dictors ( obviously the blobs still rely to much on BS blobs) well if goons are smart with RA their tactics ( t1 frigs with light to moederate cap ship support) and a smattering of inbetween ships. Will slowly push bob back remmeber RA are generally quicker to adapt than bob who mostly rely on overwealming firepower and "social engineering" to win the game. RA use exploits, developed tactics, MC Use well executed PVP tactics, Goonswarm use the blob approach.
Its even stevens interesting times ahead - he north will play a factor the big impact over time will be the third parties, the alliances that rise and fall very quickly due to their small size and pet status to the big boys - remember when loosing most alliances fall apart
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Sku1ly
coracao ardente Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.07.06 11:26:00 -
[179]
Helen's Aeon, Helen's Aeon on build Davlin's Wyvern.
Three mothership losses within six months! :(
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band0fdevs
Gallente Band of Dev's
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Posted - 2007.07.06 11:27:00 -
[180]
Originally by: Sku1ly Helen's Aeon, Helen's Aeon on build Davlin's Wyvern.
Three mothership losses within six months! :(
3 moms in 6 months aint bad. Others have lost more more rapidly in the recent wars
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Strategos
Banned Society
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Posted - 2007.07.06 11:35:00 -
[181]
Originally by: Barthezz
Originally by: Ogodai John
Originally by: Barthezz A MS fearing 1-2 dictors is a bit much.
If it were only 2 dictors that killed the MS - yes. But it wasnt, it was a whole fleet + a lot of dictors keeping it in place. If some hero decides to use a supercap to gank some stranglers on his own, its his own incompetence that got his expensive toy killed.
Well your saying that, but 1-2 dictors (well 3 as a bob guy said) can keep a MS pinned long enough for a fleet to come from miles away. I'm all for making super caps killable, but this is a bit too easy imho.
Anyways its something super cap pilots will have to live with and adapt to (though I do think its a bit 'too easy'). Probably fits their 'easier to built' profile as in 44 or so days the first capital systems start to pop up.
I'll still shed a tear for STK though, they had so much bad luck lately
To be quite honest, if 3 dictors are holding a MS down long enough for support to arrive then that means either the MS had no support or it's support was terrible and it deserves to go down.
They are not ment for solo pwning and they will die if their pilots continue to think otherwise.
Hopefully MS's in lowsec will get what's coming to them when CCP wakes up and does something so they can be held down.
---Sig---
*WARNING* Do not look at my portrait for more then two seconds or it will jump out at you and kill you DEAD! Done :) -Ivan K |
DeadDuck
Amarr Infinite Improbability Inc Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2007.07.06 11:38:00 -
[182]
Good Job Razor and Pandemic Legion.
The days of invulnerability of the Super Caps are over and thats good. No doubt we will see more of them being killed as pilots tend to "solo" in this ships like they used to.
To many times I saw MS's escaping untouched even when completly outnumbered and outgunned. Glad those times are over.
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Mei Han
Gallente Mythos Corp RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.06 11:47:00 -
[183]
Quote: To be quite honest, if 3 dictors are holding a MS down long enough for support to arrive then that means either the MS had no support or it's support was terrible and it deserves to go down.
They are not ment for solo pwning and they will die if their pilots continue to think otherwise.
Hopefully MS's in lowsec will get what's coming to them when CCP wakes up and does something so they can be held down.
Thank god someone with sense exists in CAOD. I understand all the whine about desynk even tho i belive that the support fleet propably would not manage to pull this of one way or the other. But as for dictors are conserned what the frank dudes? READ THE PATCHNOTES!!! MSs stop being the pwnmobiles since rev2 and as i can see ppl still fly them on thier own.
Well it is called a mothership for some reasons, and the reasons are that it is a Support ship but ppl fail to see beond its drone and module dmg. As for other comments, i have to state.. "At least it had a pilot onboard"
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band0fdevs
Gallente Band of Dev's
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Posted - 2007.07.06 11:47:00 -
[184]
Originally by: DeadDuck Good Job Razor and Pandemic Legion.
The days of invulnerability of the Super Caps are over and thats good. No doubt we will see more of them being killed as pilots tend to "solo" in this ships like they used to.
To many times I saw MS's escaping untouched even when completly outnumbered and outgunned. Glad those times are over.
a note tho if supercaps are well supported then they are a lot safer ( as MC are proving time and time again) it may slow down the speed of overall 0.0 warfare but this aint to bad anyway. Will leave more open space for empire residents to fall into
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Tearavygh Quillam
Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.06 11:50:00 -
[185]
Supercaps are no longer solopownmobiles and btw, it has been known for a while that we like to jump on cap kills everytime we have the chance... there is no point in crying so much for a ship that was flown so recklessly.
Ernie, bring a titan km on our kb!!!
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Evil Night
Minmatar Grave Raiders Inc.
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Posted - 2007.07.06 11:50:00 -
[186]
STK the end is near Whats with all the dam cry babys stop been sore losers !
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Blackmyst
Caldari Inter-Regional Intelligence Service Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.07.06 11:51:00 -
[187]
Good Job guys !!!
-- BlackMyst --
/Me Need Smarties Officer !!! Vizans Armor Reps !!! Tech II BPOs !!!
!!! Need a Sig Btw !!!
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Bial Slatros
Roving Guns Inc. RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.06 11:52:00 -
[188]
Note to self: When i get a mothership soon Dont try and kill eny old thing at the gate with out having backup just in case. [noted]
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xtremecutie
Get in the Van I've Got Candy
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Posted - 2007.07.06 11:52:00 -
[189]
Any supercap pilot that logs in with the current state of the servers knows they are taking a risk (even larger than just not being able to jump out of bubbles).
Even if he desynced from the start CCP has shown that they will not reimburse supercaps under any conditions (even when clear evidence from both parties involved is presented) - even if those exact same conditions would warrant reimbursement of a regular ship.
You can't fault the killers for the craptastic state of the servers, and it seems as though they would have got the kill anyway with all the firepower they had.
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band0fdevs
Gallente Band of Dev's
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Posted - 2007.07.06 11:55:00 -
[190]
Originally by: xtremecutie Any supercap pilot that logs in with the current state of the servers knows they are taking a risk (even larger than just not being able to jump out of bubbles).
Even if he desynced from the start CCP has shown that they will not reimburse supercaps under any conditions (even when clear evidence from both parties involved is presented) - even if those exact same conditions would warrant reimbursement of a regular ship.
You can't fault the killers for the craptastic state of the servers, and it seems as though they would have got the kill anyway with all the firepower they had.
goonfleet have the advantage but bob could easily change course and counter blob that might repersent the next stage ( of course blobs can be bombed now by stealth bombers) so things realy become balanced.
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band0fdevs
Gallente Band of Dev's
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Posted - 2007.07.06 12:04:00 -
[191]
Originally by: Pociomundo
Originally by: Capt Rob in these kinds of attacks; most of the time a desync stops the ms etc from doing anything to hurt the other guys. most of the time hes already been bubbled a ton of times and is gona die anyway. And looking at the km, he most likely woulda died anyway and im sure he couldt lock past 2km anyway
You do realise motherships can't be dampened right?
can be dictored, bombed with bombs and generally tied down a support fleet as MC are showing is essential
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Naomi Wildfire
Amarr Stardust Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2007.07.06 12:04:00 -
[192]
Let the Rats do the final blow :D
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Robert Ger
Caldari Free Mercenaries Union FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.06 12:13:00 -
[193]
Originally by: Farscape Hw my dictor is FTW
/me dances the 'i bubbled a mothership' dance
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queen najazer
GALAXIAN Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.07.06 12:15:00 -
[194]
Davlin, although your no longer blue, im sorry for your loss dude. AT least you had the balls to use the ship as it should, to kill any and everything that stood before you.
To Pan / Rzr etc... nicely laid trap and well planned
Man thats gotta hurt
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Dave White
coracao ardente Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.07.06 12:17:00 -
[195]
Good job, and shame about the de-sync's
Originally by: CCP kieron Dave, that sig is freaky and funny at the same time.
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Pociomundo
Gallente World Order The Imperial Order
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Posted - 2007.07.06 12:23:00 -
[196]
Originally by: band0fdevs
Originally by: Pociomundo
Originally by: Capt Rob in these kinds of attacks; most of the time a desync stops the ms etc from doing anything to hurt the other guys. most of the time hes already been bubbled a ton of times and is gona die anyway. And looking at the km, he most likely woulda died anyway and im sure he couldt lock past 2km anyway
You do realise motherships can't be dampened right?
can be dictored, bombed with bombs and generally tied down a support fleet as MC are showing is essential
Well done, I wasn't talking about that... But thanks for trying silly CAOD alt.
He talks about the mom being Ewar'd as if even if Davlin wasn't desync'd he wouldn't have been able to be offensive as he would have been dampened too much, I was pointing out that it would not be the case as he would target fine.
Having said that, from the screenshots, done deal. #2 looks sexy with teh shield tank :)
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Rhaegor Stormborn
Sturmgrenadier Inc R i s e
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Posted - 2007.07.06 12:44:00 -
[197]
CCP fix this desync bull****. Freaking amatures. RISE Recruitment Thread
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Mozana
x13 Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.07.06 12:44:00 -
[198]
anyone killed a MS which actually fought back? the bob ms loss also just showed a ms with fighters not attacking, ship not repping or trying to re-align after beeing bumbped.
whats up with this?
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other mickey
Gallente Galaxy Punks
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Posted - 2007.07.06 12:45:00 -
[199]
Nice kill!
Sidenote: More than 30b worth of ships have been lost to lag and de-synchs and have not been re-imbursed. And it's probably well over the trillion mark. A kill is a kill. What do people expect PL/RZR to do, decide to not attack because everyone's de-synching therefore not a legit kill? You have to play in the way the server allows you to do at the time.
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Jitagirl
Jita Trade Services
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Posted - 2007.07.06 12:54:00 -
[200]
Originally by: queen najazer Davlin, although your no longer blue, im sorry for your loss dude. AT least you had the balls to use the ship as it should, to kill any and everything that stood before you.
Erm, ganking solo Battleships is as supposed !?
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Cazziel
E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.07.06 12:59:00 -
[201]
Job well done Snigg & RZR, think they got what they deserved. Petition whiners can eat dust and stop breathing, or then CCP can reimburse some titans also.
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VinceNoir
Amarr Pyrrhus Sicarii Aftermath Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.06 13:06:00 -
[202]
From what I hear De-synchs are commonplace for most mom pilots, I doubt you'll get it back from petition.
Originally by: "Shanda Captison" Vince, you can't even spell ECM m8
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Kagura Nikon
Minmatar Guardians of the Dawn Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.07.06 13:15:00 -
[203]
Well rev 2 will have an interesting result. Corps and alliances will give super capitals based on tactical capability and cold blood characteristics of the pilot. Not to arrogant and impulsive people.
Impulsive people should use HACs
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Mr Mirage
KIA Corp KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.06 13:24:00 -
[204]
I lol'd
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Gokil
North Eastern Swat
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Posted - 2007.07.06 13:25:00 -
[205]
Originally by: Strategos
Originally by: Natsuki
Originally by: Ander
Originally by: Natsuki 6m tech 2 destroyer > 30b mothership.
balance ftw?
There fixed it for ya. 11x capitalships or more + 10x t2 destroyers + 60 support fleet > 30b mothership
if you knew how to play eve, you'd probably realize it only takes about 3 dictors to hold a ms indefinately until help arrives.
The MS pilot was dumb enough to engage a Domi without intel trying to be "cool" and you're saying the people who set the trap and pulled it off don't know how to play?
Typical BoB. How's Molle btw?
Derailed thread with your face!
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gordon cain
Minmatar x13 Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.07.06 13:35:00 -
[206]
To me its pretty simple.
Both sides admits De-Sync.
Everyone should get their ships back.
CCP should put all hands on this bug.
Gordon Cain
Gordon Cain
"Allways remember. Never argue with idiots, they will just drag you down to their level, and beat you with experience" |
Narciss Sevar
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.07.06 13:40:00 -
[207]
Originally by: gordon cain To me its pretty simple.
Both sides admits De-Sync.
Everyone should get their ships back.
CCP should put all hands on this bug.
Gordon Cain
But if he hadn't of de-synced he would of died anyway. That's a ******** way to look at it.
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Alias11
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.06 13:48:00 -
[208]
Originally by: Natsuki 6m tech 2 destroyer > 30b mothership.
balance ftw?
Funny the ship with the explicit purpose of holding down other ships and preventing them from escaping can do just that. I suppose an atron with a scrambler piloted by a five-minute newbie shouldn't be able to tie down battleship either. I suppose it makes sense if you're brain is completely overwhelmed trying to rationalize and defend your deviances of the flesh
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Alias11
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.06 13:50:00 -
[209]
Originally by: gordon cain To me its pretty simple.
Both sides admits De-Sync.
Everyone should get their ships back.
CCP should put all hands on this bug.
Gordon Cain
If you start doing this it goes from the rev 1 "supercaps are effectively invincible" to a brand new "supercaps can reincarnate as many times as they want"
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Kagura Nikon
Minmatar Guardians of the Dawn Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.07.06 13:57:00 -
[210]
Originally by: gordon cain To me its pretty simple.
Both sides admits De-Sync.
Everyone should get their ships back.
CCP should put all hands on this bug.
Gordon Cain
If they do that they will need to replace every MS lost until today because all of them were because of De Sync.
CCP will never reinburse super capitals unless its clearly and without doubt their fault, like being stuck in a POS with inactive guns but guns bugged and firing on ship until it went down (pure theoretical here).
If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough |
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Sextus Licinius
Caldari Wreckless Abandon Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.07.06 14:01:00 -
[211]
Grats for the mamaboat kill snigg, you would've killed it anyway prolly so shame with these desyncs.
"He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man" |
SWAT Kat
Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.06 14:03:00 -
[212]
Edited by: SWAT Kat on 06/07/2007 14:03:45 Edited by: SWAT Kat on 06/07/2007 14:03:27
Originally by: Ohne
Originally by: Dylan Rhade
Originally by: Capt Rob
Originally by: Altar Mei Nice kill, funny to see Razor leading the charge in the North (not a flame). I'm curious though I thought Pandemic was down south?
were sight seeing:)
Sight seeing?
More like BoB is beating u down there so u ran away whilst u have some ships :)
D
lol
Feel free to check out how well your alliance did driving us out on our killboard :)
We bailed because for some strange reason everybody moves out when we move in :(
Someone give this man a cookie, yet another time we've moved to center of hostilities, 3rd time that 4 weeks after moving in,local becomes all blue again. jebus were actually running missions now out of frustration
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Brolie
Sarcastrophic Industries
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Posted - 2007.07.06 14:04:00 -
[213]
Poor old STK and their motherships.
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Eleven Eleven
Caldari The Fray
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Posted - 2007.07.06 14:04:00 -
[214]
If desync for Mom pilots has been known for a while then it is the pilots taking the risk by flying them (and doing stupid things).
Its your own fault - if i touch the burner on the stove I have only myself to blame.
I can't wait until the desyncs end so mom pilots stop using that as an excuse.
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Capt Rob
Minmatar Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.06 14:06:00 -
[215]
Originally by: Dylan Rhade
Originally by: Capt Rob
Originally by: Altar Mei Nice kill, funny to see Razor leading the charge in the North (not a flame). I'm curious though I thought Pandemic was down south?
were sight seeing:)
Sight seeing?
More like BoB is beating u down there so u ran away whilst u have some ships :)
D
wow; as we were in foutain, there werent that many bob guys around. and after a few weeks of us being around, neither were there alota fatal gangs around
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Kagura Nikon
Minmatar Guardians of the Dawn Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.07.06 14:11:00 -
[216]
Btw i don get how people say a mothership would be able to EASILY get rid of 7 dictors if not desynced1
Last time I fought a fix carrier fleet I watched with amazement as 7 fighters pursued a sabre whole fight (20 min aprox) while he orbited the Carriers at 25km and moved in just to drop another bubble then out. Never getting any more damage than 1 or 2 blast of smartbomb.. nothing nearly threatening to him.
With no Support capital ships are worhtless and that is how it should be!
If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough |
Shamis Orzoz
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.06 14:18:00 -
[217]
To those of you who say its too easy to kill motherships:
- We planned the attack for 3 days - Said mothership pilot did the EXACT same thing in the EXACT same system, at the EXACT same time of day, for 2-3 weeks. Anything will die if you're going to be that predictable with no support. - He had less than 10 support ships when he initially attacked. - We baited with only 1 dictor and some battleships. The other 8-10 dictors were spread out 2-3 jumps in different directions - The main pandemic support gang waited 6 jumps out - The pandemic gang alone had 5 dreads and 8 carriers. I think in total we had nearly 20 caps.
This kill would not have been possible as a spur of the moment kill. You have to know exactly where a motherhip will be and what he'll be doing in order to kill it. And for that to happen the mothership pilot has to be very predictable.
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Kagura Nikon
Minmatar Guardians of the Dawn Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.07.06 14:21:00 -
[218]
Originally by: Shamis Orzoz To those of you who say its too easy to kill motherships:
- We planned the attack for 3 days - Said mothership pilot did the EXACT same thing in the EXACT same system, at the EXACT same time of day, for 2-3 weeks. Anything will die if you're going to be that predictable with no support. - He had less than 10 support ships when he initially attacked. - We baited with only 1 dictor and some battleships. The other 8-10 dictors were spread out 2-3 jumps in different directions - The main pandemic support gang waited 6 jumps out - The pandemic gang alone had 5 dreads and 8 carriers. I think in total we had nearly 20 caps.
This kill would not have been possible as a spur of the moment kill. You have to know exactly where a motherhip will be and what he'll be doing in order to kill it. And for that to happen the mothership pilot has to be very predictable.
bloody hell don ell me that he was that arrogant to repeat itself for 3 WEEKS!! LOL
If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough |
Malachon Draco
eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.07.06 14:22:00 -
[219]
Originally by: Kagura Nikon Btw i don get how people say a mothership would be able to EASILY get rid of 7 dictors if not desynced1
Last time I fought a fix carrier fleet I watched with amazement as 7 fighters pursued a sabre whole fight (20 min aprox) while he orbited the Carriers at 25km and moved in just to drop another bubble then out. Never getting any more damage than 1 or 2 blast of smartbomb.. nothing nearly threatening to him.
With no Support capital ships are worhtless and that is how it should be!
I always thought that the combination of highend NOS (to remove MWD), longrange web (faction/officer) and drones would pop any interdictor fast.
------------------------------------------------ Murphy's Golden Rule: Whoever has the gold, makes the rules.
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Laboratus
Gallente BGG League of Abnormal Gentlemen
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Posted - 2007.07.06 14:26:00 -
[220]
Edited by: Laboratus on 06/07/2007 14:25:37
Originally by: Kagura Nikon
bloody hell don ell me that he was that arrogant to repeat itself for 3 WEEKS!! LOL
Hi does the same thing in OR with his alt in hacs... Great mods, the man has isk. ___ P.S. Post with your main. Mind control and tin hats |
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Fortior
STK Scientific M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.07.06 14:30:00 -
[221]
Originally by: Sku1ly Helen's Aeon, Helen's Aeon on build Davlin's Wyvern.
Three mothership losses within six months! :(
Skully mah lovah. Come back to STK and you and I shall hump roids until they burst in great flashes of white. Geysers erupt, trains enter tunnels and rockets launch as we do the miner dance together.
Remember to bring an Invul Field though. If you're gonna hump, stay protected. And hardened.
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ponieus
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.07.06 14:47:00 -
[222]
Edited by: ponieus on 06/07/2007 14:47:00
Originally by: Alias11
Originally by: Natsuki 6m tech 2 destroyer > 30b mothership.
balance ftw?
Funny the ship with the explicit purpose of holding down other ships and preventing them from escaping can do just that. I suppose an atron with a scrambler piloted by a five-minute newbie shouldn't be able to tie down battleship either. I suppose it makes sense if you're brain is completely overwhelmed trying to rationalize and defend your deviances of the flesh
newsflash your a goon your not suppose to make sense.
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Charly Quickfire
STK Scientific M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.07.06 14:57:00 -
[223]
To Davlin: Sorry for your loss mate. To Snigg: Good job.
TO CCP: Even if your logs show nothing, the current desynchs do happen and should be addressed with maximum effort. This cannot be the quality that each customer expects for his/her monthly fee. |
ponieus
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.07.06 14:58:00 -
[224]
Originally by: Charly Quickfire
TO CCP: Even if your logs show nothing, the current desynchs do happen and should be addressed with maximum effort. This cannot be the quality that each customer expects for his/her monthly fee.
another very vaild point that CCP is not seeing for some reason. Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected]) |
LePrince
Altera Odyssea Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.07.06 15:05:00 -
[225]
Edited by: LePrince on 06/07/2007 15:05:42 There are NO d-syncs !
Excellent work Shamis + friends, keep it up dudes
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Vina
Caldari Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.07.06 15:14:00 -
[226]
imo it's completely unbalanced that a normal ship can tackle any capital ship, capital ships (especially supercaps) should only be tackable by other capital ships. -----------------------------------
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Shamis Orzoz
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.06 15:14:00 -
[227]
Originally by: ponieus
Originally by: Charly Quickfire
TO CCP: Even if your logs show nothing, the current desynchs do happen and should be addressed with maximum effort. This cannot be the quality that each customer expects for his/her monthly fee.
another very vaild point that CCP is not seeing for some reason.
I'm sure CCP is aware of the problem. They like to keep quiet when the game is totally broken though. I expect they'll admit that there is a big problem once they figure out how to fix it.
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Ander
Gallente Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.06 15:25:00 -
[228]
Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
Originally by: ponieus
Originally by: Charly Quickfire
TO CCP: Even if your logs show nothing, the current desynchs do happen and should be addressed with maximum effort. This cannot be the quality that each customer expects for his/her monthly fee.
another very vaild point that CCP is not seeing for some reason.
I'm sure CCP is aware of the problem. They like to keep quiet when the game is totally broken though. I expect they'll admit that there is a big problem once they figure out how to fix it.
<derail>Get our forums working again Shamiz.. pwetty please. TS is down too :(</derail>
EVE PIRATE ANDER! now posting in "orange" |
Kagura Nikon
Minmatar Guardians of the Dawn Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.07.06 15:26:00 -
[229]
Originally by: Malachon Draco
Originally by: Kagura Nikon Btw i don get how people say a mothership would be able to EASILY get rid of 7 dictors if not desynced1
Last time I fought a fix carrier fleet I watched with amazement as 7 fighters pursued a sabre whole fight (20 min aprox) while he orbited the Carriers at 25km and moved in just to drop another bubble then out. Never getting any more damage than 1 or 2 blast of smartbomb.. nothing nearly threatening to him.
With no Support capital ships are worhtless and that is how it should be!
I always thought that the combination of highend NOS (to remove MWD), longrange web (faction/officer) and drones would pop any interdictor fast.
As soon as the whale start to do anything.. MWD away. a single pulse will put you out of range and you warp away. Easy. That if you are not lagegd orr desynced.. but being not desynced was a requirement form the MS pilot for starter. No way he would kill 7 dictors before 5 minutes.
If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough |
Orree
Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.07.06 15:33:00 -
[230]
Originally by: Natsuki
Originally by: Ander
Originally by: Natsuki 6m tech 2 destroyer > 30b mothership.
balance ftw?
There fixed it for ya. 11x capitalships or more + 10x t2 destroyers + 60 support fleet > 30b mothership
if you knew how to play eve, you'd probably realize it only takes about 3 dictors to hold a ms indefinately until help arrives.
So the people saying 6-10 dictors wasn't enough are full of crap. That's what I thought, too.
To Razor and Pandemic Legion: Nice kill, guys.
In general: Desync sucks. The game is nigh on unplayable when it counts. Please fix.
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Raef Ruoy
Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.06 15:36:00 -
[231]
Edited by: Raef Ruoy on 06/07/2007 15:36:14 He had Hobgoblin II's out to start the fight then he switched to Fighters. (At least that was what was shooting me). Speed Dictors + Mindlinked Claymore are quite fast though. -Raef |
kill0rbunny
Alpha-Hirogen Phoenix Allianz
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Posted - 2007.07.06 15:38:00 -
[232]
I'm in a mom kill thread. Yay! \o/
I pew therefore I am.
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fire 59
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.07.06 15:43:00 -
[233]
Sorry to hear of your loss mate, real crap way to lose a beautiful ship
Currently training forum ***** resistance L5 |
Orree
Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.07.06 15:45:00 -
[234]
Originally by: Murina Personaly im sick of seeing super capitals getting popped because of the arrogance or stupidity of the pilots.
Congratulations on the kill no matter how you got it as far as im concerned both partys in the fight got exactly what they deserved.
The mom pilot got popped for using it in a stupid way and razor and buddys proly got the kill because he proly did it a lot and was predictable.
desink/lag/dictors/support fleets/hostile fleets.
ALL B******S
A MS with no support or other capitals and not being used for full fleet ops but as a solo gank ship against a domi deserves to be killed.
Pretty much. QFT.
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Banduril Lazyloth
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.06 15:47:00 -
[235]
Originally by: Vina imo it's completely unbalanced that a normal ship can tackle any capital ship, capital ships (especially supercaps) should only be tackable by other capital ships.
lol anime
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Lizhia
Gallente Macabre Votum
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Posted - 2007.07.06 16:07:00 -
[236]
Gief full after action report with some tasty bits from the pre-fight, planning and such ^-^ Gratulations to a fine kill.
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Helen
STK Scientific
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Posted - 2007.07.06 16:07:00 -
[237]
No bounce no play.
To those who killed it congrats on your kill regardless of desync it seems your entire setup would of killed it regardless. While its a shame he couldn't take a few down with him this certainly isn't Pandemic's fault its all of CCP's.
Still STK has lost 3 motherships and had a massive corp theft, funny how we are still a corp eh? Big love to all the STK haters.
Ander please for the love of god stop posting in "that" colour I keep trying to click it.
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Mozana
x13 Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.07.06 16:12:00 -
[238]
Quote: I'm sure CCP is aware of the problem. They like to keep quiet when the game is totally broken though. I expect they'll admit that there is a big problem once they figure out how to fix it.
even worse.
wake up CCP, give us some official news about this
And start taking responsibility for you game.
I wanna se MS die in battle, defending themselv. a kill is a kill, but.. it's most fun for both parts when its a "fair" kill..
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Ander
Gallente Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.06 16:20:00 -
[239]
Edited by: Ander on 06/07/2007 16:20:26
Originally by: Helen No bounce no play.
To those who killed it congrats on your kill regardless of desync it seems your entire setup would of killed it regardless. While its a shame he couldn't take a few down with him this certainly isn't Pandemic's fault its all of CCP's.
Still STK has lost 3 motherships and had a massive corp theft, funny how we are still a corp eh? Big love to all the STK haters.
Ander please for the love of god stop posting in "that" colour I keep trying to click it.
Noes I refuse to stop posting in this color!
But here's a link to my write-up of the whole engagement from my point of view: EVE Pirate
EVE PIRATE ANDER! now posting in "orange" |
Emeline Cabernet
Amarr KVA Noble Inc.
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Posted - 2007.07.06 16:22:00 -
[240]
once met the ms pilot. seemed like a nice guy, cva had given him alot armor dmg in misaba and he was nice enough to let me lock it in gemodi to check how close it was. good kill though. this is how it should be. ms without support = dead ms.
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TenthReality
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.06 16:30:00 -
[241]
Originally by: Murina
The mom pilot got popped for using it in a stupid way and razor and buddys proly got the kill because he proly did it a lot and was predictable.
Could not have been summed up better. This mom pilot lost his ship because he did the same thing, every day, for over a week. We had time to plan, position forces, and spring a trap that was clearly successfull. Lag/Desynch aside, the entire purpose of last night was to kill that mothership, it is not like it was a chance situation.
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Mozana
x13 Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.07.06 16:34:00 -
[242]
pilote mistake or not
Eve is most fun when it works.
Im pretty sure that the participating pilot would have liked him to fight back.
or...?
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Eleven Eleven
Caldari The Fray
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Posted - 2007.07.06 16:38:00 -
[243]
Eve working or not - a nub in a mom will still be a predictable nub in a mom.
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Strategos
Banned Society
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Posted - 2007.07.06 17:00:00 -
[244]
Originally by: Vina imo it's completely unbalanced that a normal ship can tackle any capital ship, capital ships (especially supercaps) should only be tackable by other capital ships.
Quote: Vina Caldari Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
For some reason, that coming from you makes me laugh. I have no idea why, honest.
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*WARNING* Do not look at my portrait for more then two seconds or it will jump out at you and kill you DEAD! Done :) -Ivan K |
SolApathy
Macabre Votum INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.07.06 17:03:00 -
[245]
grats to razor and PL on a well executed plan, to STK what can i say sorry to hear of your loss just a few weeks ago Davlin was flying with us owning guard alongside our capital fleet its a shame to see such a great ship die to d-sync regardless i think he was ambushed and wouldnt have survived but who knows.
ps what was the second STK mom loss? just wondering.
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THEDON1
Chaos Reborn
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Posted - 2007.07.06 17:04:00 -
[246]
and what?
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Helen
STK Scientific
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Posted - 2007.07.06 17:06:00 -
[247]
Originally by: SolApathy
ps what was the second STK mom loss? just wondering.
2nd Aeon was cooking in ze oven when it got cancelled by a corp theif.
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SigmaPi
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.06 17:06:00 -
[248]
Originally by: Mozana anyone killed a MS which actually fought back? the bob ms loss also just showed a ms with fighters not attacking, ship not repping or trying to re-align after beeing bumbped.
whats up with this?
The mothership actually had a few kills from the engagement, and also was operating smartbombs and such. He was also actively tanking our initial volies until all the capitals got into position. We just broght too much firepower for his ship to handle, and he was a very predictable pilot who would always chace a piece of cheese, this time the cheese was on a string and he fell for our trap.
The desynchs were a pain, but after a relog on both accounts i was running it cleared up to a degree. I saw his shield disapear and then his armor vanish... and finally his structure vaporize. Was a 'fun' fight. Woulda been a lot better if it wernt for the desynchs.
By the way, everyone keeps saying its a state of the servers that causes desynchs, its actually the client itself that is desynching. The server, in this case, is doing fine.
/Siggy
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ArmyOfMe
Exotic Dancers Club
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Posted - 2007.07.06 17:11:00 -
[249]
Congratz guys, well done
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Yunii
Oser's Shipping and Manufacturing Inc. Endless Horizon
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Posted - 2007.07.06 17:25:00 -
[250]
Originally by: LePrince Edited by: LePrince on 06/07/2007 15:05:42 There are NO d-syncs ! Excellent work Shamis + friends, keep it up dudes
yeah there is, and it seems more and more of them lately. I've experienced one myself with less then 200 in local. Its a pretty ****ty feeling not being able to do anything and you can only sit there and listen to your gang mates on vent saying they're getting shot and they cant even see who, what, is shooting them.
But from the sounds of it that MoM was a dead duck. Grats and nice kill even if under less then ideal conditions. ------------------------------------------- Originally by: CCP Arkanon I think this thread also illustrates perfectly that we neither censor nor do we try to silence our customers. |
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Kweel Nakashyn
Minmatar Aeden Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.07.06 17:28:00 -
[251]
Grats Sniggs :) I'm just jealous now :p -----
History is made by whinners
Originally by: DB Preacher (...) Ignore what the coalition muppets are saying on their forums (...)
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Suez Newton
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.06 17:38:00 -
[252]
Edited by: Suez Newton on 06/07/2007 17:38:24 Supercap pilots need to get the idea out of their head they are no longer the lone ranger. They need a decent support fleet to back them up. Also he got into a routine just like with the BoB mothership and when that happens it is easy to get lazy.
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titanstory
FRENCH NAVY Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.07.06 18:01:00 -
[253]
very good job o/
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Davlin Lotze
STK Scientific M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.07.06 18:02:00 -
[254]
Let's just put this in bullet form to save on space and hopefully clear up some of the factless statements coming from some in this thread:
1) I was in a gang doing local defense(not soloing) as one might expect any alliance member in any alliance that wishes to at least try and defend their space at any hour of the day.
2) I was unable to launch any drones at all. This was before and after local ballooned in count.
3) I never saw a single hostile fighter or drone on my display during the entire encounter.
4) I noted extremely poor tactics on the part of the hostile dictor force. They were orbitting about at 15km in a very nonchalant fashion. Had I been able to deploy drones, 1/2 to 3/4th of them would have been dead within 90 seconds to 2 minutes. TBH, BE have a much better command of their dictor tactics than what I saw from the hostiles last night.
5) I've survived three to four desynchs before. Never had I ever been without the ability to deploy drones and defend myself. Something else was going on with the node\TQ last night.
6) What saved snigg et al was their willingness to log out in combat and log back in to save their objective from failing. I never log in combat. I guess that's one difference between attackers and myself. Perhaps CCP can send some signals whether premeditated logging in and out from combat is acceptable or not. I think it shows weak character but I'm old and very old fashioned in that way :)
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lles
Roving Guns Inc. RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.06 18:08:00 -
[255]
Originally by: Davlin Lotze Let's just put this in bullet form to save on space and hopefully clear up some of the factless statements coming from some in this thread:
1) I was in a gang doing local defense(not soloing) as one might expect any alliance member in any alliance that wishes to at least try and defend their space at any hour of the day.
2) I was unable to launch any drones at all. This was before and after local ballooned in count.
3) I never saw a single hostile fighter or drone on my display during the entire encounter.
4) I noted extremely poor tactics on the part of the hostile dictor force. They were orbitting about at 15km in a very nonchalant fashion. Had I been able to deploy drones, 1/2 to 3/4th of them would have been dead within 90 seconds to 2 minutes. TBH, BE have a much better command of their dictor tactics than what I saw from the hostiles last night.
5) I've survived three to four desynchs before. Never had I ever been without the ability to deploy drones and defend myself. Something else was going on with the node\TQ last night.
6) What saved snigg et al was their willingness to log out in combat and log back in to save their objective from failing. I never log in combat. I guess that's one difference between attackers and myself. Perhaps CCP can send some signals whether premeditated logging in and out from combat is acceptable or not. I think it shows weak character but I'm old and very old fashioned in that way :)
pwned
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Factor Benz
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.06 18:10:00 -
[256]
Originally by: Davlin Lotze Let's just put this in bullet form to save on space and hopefully clear up some of the factless statements coming from some in this thread:
1) I was in a gang doing local defense(not soloing) as one might expect any alliance member in any alliance that wishes to at least try and defend their space at any hour of the day.
2) I was unable to launch any drones at all. This was before and after local ballooned in count.
3) I never saw a single hostile fighter or drone on my display during the entire encounter.
4) I noted extremely poor tactics on the part of the hostile dictor force. They were orbitting about at 15km in a very nonchalant fashion. Had I been able to deploy drones, 1/2 to 3/4th of them would have been dead within 90 seconds to 2 minutes. TBH, BE have a much better command of their dictor tactics than what I saw from the hostiles last night.
5) I've survived three to four desynchs before. Never had I ever been without the ability to deploy drones and defend myself. Something else was going on with the node\TQ last night.
6) What saved snigg et al was their willingness to log out in combat and log back in to save their objective from failing. I never log in combat. I guess that's one difference between attackers and myself. Perhaps CCP can send some signals whether premeditated logging in and out from combat is acceptable or not. I think it shows weak character but I'm old and very old fashioned in that way :)
M.Pire winning at Eve since day 1. Way to take it like a man.
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Shamis Orzoz
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.06 18:11:00 -
[257]
Edited by: Shamis Orzoz on 06/07/2007 18:11:14
Originally by: Davlin Lotze 6) What saved snigg et al was their willingness to log out in combat and log back in to save their objective from failing. I never log in combat. I guess that's one difference between attackers and myself. Perhaps CCP can send some signals whether premeditated logging in and out from combat is acceptable or not. I think it shows weak character but I'm old and very old fashioned in that way :)
Any snigg pilot that logs in combat to save his ship gets booted from the corp.
There's a big difference between logging to save your ship, and relogging because you are desynced. There's also a difference between being old fashioned and being stupid.
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Davlin Lotze
STK Scientific M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.07.06 18:13:00 -
[258]
Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
Originally by: Davlin Lotze 6) What saved snigg et al was their willingness to log out in combat and log back in to save their objective from failing. I never log in combat. I guess that's one difference between attackers and myself. Perhaps CCP can send some signals whether premeditated logging in and out from combat is acceptable or not. I think it shows weak character but I'm old and very old fashioned in that way :)
Any snigg pilot that logs in combat to save his ship gets booted from the corp.
There's a big difference between logging to save your ship, and relogging because you are desynced. There's a difference between being old fashioned and being stupid.
You gonna start booting with yourself Shamiz? How many admissions of logging out do we have here? And there's no difference tbh....you left the game to avoid a loss.
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Ander
Gallente Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.06 18:13:00 -
[259]
Edited by: Ander on 06/07/2007 18:15:03
Originally by: Davlin Lotze Let's just put this in bullet form to save on space and hopefully clear up some of the factless statements coming from some in this thread:
1) I was in a gang doing local defense(not soloing) as one might expect any alliance member in any alliance that wishes to at least try and defend their space at any hour of the day. Just minutes before you were in another system actively ganking people. Going back and forth between gates. You continued doing this in LXW between warping to POS and cloaking.
2) I was unable to launch any drones at all. This was before and after local ballooned in count. Your drones were out, you got on killmail on a battleship kill. Several PL pilots report your drones attacking them. But you also ran your smartbombs which pretty much might've killed your own drones. At least they were damaging my fighters.
3) I never saw a single hostile fighter or drone on my display during the entire encounter. Then maybe you should've relogged.
4) I noted extremely poor tactics on the part of the hostile dictor force. They were orbitting about at 15km in a very nonchalant fashion. Had I been able to deploy drones, 1/2 to 3/4th of them would have been dead within 90 seconds to 2 minutes. TBH, BE have a much better command of their dictor tactics than what I saw from the hostiles last night. If you were desynced how could you see enemy movement and "random patterns"? Usually when you desync any hostile ship keeps moving off in the direction you last spotted them going.
5) I've survived three to four desynchs before. Never had I ever been without the ability to deploy drones and defend myself. Something else was going on with the node\TQ last night. I was able to deploy drones just fine and spotted yours aswell. If you were desynced you should've done a quick relog to try and fix the problem.
6) What saved snigg et al was their willingness to log out in combat and log back in to save their objective from failing. I never log in combat. I guess that's one difference between attackers and myself. Perhaps CCP can send some signals whether premeditated logging in and out from combat is acceptable or not. I think it shows weak character but I'm old and very old fashioned in that way :) So you're saying that "logging" is the same as "relogging" and that is "weak"? The tools were there to save your ship if you had been desynced. Relogging is the defacto technique to clear desync issues. You were in a big ship and you should have had plenty of time to relog. If you were desynced and didn't relog then you can only blame yourself for not giving you that chance.
Some things doesnt match up to whatyou've said in previous bullets. You saw the dictors moving about. But not drones or fighters, how was your overview setup? Was PL red to you and you simply mistook fleet support for the drones? We had a massive amount of support and at times in that large encounter myself wasn't too sure what was green-drones and friendlies.
EVE PIRATE ANDER! now posting in "orange" |
Davlin Lotze
STK Scientific M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.07.06 18:14:00 -
[260]
Originally by: Factor Benz
Originally by: Davlin Lotze Let's just put this in bullet form to save on space and hopefully clear up some of the factless statements coming from some in this thread:
1) I was in a gang doing local defense(not soloing) as one might expect any alliance member in any alliance that wishes to at least try and defend their space at any hour of the day.
2) I was unable to launch any drones at all. This was before and after local ballooned in count.
3) I never saw a single hostile fighter or drone on my display during the entire encounter.
4) I noted extremely poor tactics on the part of the hostile dictor force. They were orbitting about at 15km in a very nonchalant fashion. Had I been able to deploy drones, 1/2 to 3/4th of them would have been dead within 90 seconds to 2 minutes. TBH, BE have a much better command of their dictor tactics than what I saw from the hostiles last night.
5) I've survived three to four desynchs before. Never had I ever been without the ability to deploy drones and defend myself. Something else was going on with the node\TQ last night.
6) What saved snigg et al was their willingness to log out in combat and log back in to save their objective from failing. I never log in combat. I guess that's one difference between attackers and myself. Perhaps CCP can send some signals whether premeditated logging in and out from combat is acceptable or not. I think it shows weak character but I'm old and very old fashioned in that way :)
M.Pire winning at Eve since day 1. Way to take it like a man.
I'll leave it to an average joe trying to survive more than 10 minutes of goon crap at your local Burn Eden TS downtime session to pass judgement on your lot.
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Shamis Orzoz
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.06 18:15:00 -
[261]
Originally by: Davlin Lotze You gonna start booting with yourself Shamiz? How many admissions of logging out do we have here? And there's no difference tbh....you left the game to avoid a loss.
Yes, truely ethical eve players all sit there and look at their frozen screen when they fight.
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Factor Benz
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.06 18:16:00 -
[262]
Originally by: Davlin Lotze
Originally by: Factor Benz
Originally by: Davlin Lotze Let's just put this in bullet form to save on space and hopefully clear up some of the factless statements coming from some in this thread:
1) I was in a gang doing local defense(not soloing) as one might expect any alliance member in any alliance that wishes to at least try and defend their space at any hour of the day.
2) I was unable to launch any drones at all. This was before and after local ballooned in count.
3) I never saw a single hostile fighter or drone on my display during the entire encounter.
4) I noted extremely poor tactics on the part of the hostile dictor force. They were orbitting about at 15km in a very nonchalant fashion. Had I been able to deploy drones, 1/2 to 3/4th of them would have been dead within 90 seconds to 2 minutes. TBH, BE have a much better command of their dictor tactics than what I saw from the hostiles last night.
5) I've survived three to four desynchs before. Never had I ever been without the ability to deploy drones and defend myself. Something else was going on with the node\TQ last night.
6) What saved snigg et al was their willingness to log out in combat and log back in to save their objective from failing. I never log in combat. I guess that's one difference between attackers and myself. Perhaps CCP can send some signals whether premeditated logging in and out from combat is acceptable or not. I think it shows weak character but I'm old and very old fashioned in that way :)
M.Pire winning at Eve since day 1. Way to take it like a man.
I'll leave it to an average joe trying to survive more than 10 minutes of goon crap at your local Burn Eden TS downtime session to pass judgement on your lot.
Sorry I can only judge you by your results.
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Taes Valkiir
Caldari Omerta Syndicate Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.07.06 18:16:00 -
[263]
I'm no fan of Shamis or Pandemic Legion, but logging out of a desynced client is hardly the same as logging in combat to save a ship.
They were logging so they could get back to the fight, not avoid it, like you're kind of implying.
Anyways, nice trap and good kill.
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar Spartan Industries Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.07.06 18:16:00 -
[264]
Originally by: Davlin Lotze Let's just put this in bullet form to save on space and hopefully clear up some of the factless statements coming from some in this thread:
2) I was unable to launch any drones at all. This was before and after local ballooned in count.
ORLY?
2007.07.06 04:23
Victim: xxxxxx Alliance: RAZOR Alliance Corp: Cutting Edge Incorporated Destroyed: Raven System: LXWN-W Security: 0.0
Involved parties:
Name: xxx Security: 5.0 Alliance: M. PIRE Corp: M. Corp Ship: Megathron Weapon: 425mm Railgun II
Name: Dxxxxn Lxxxe (laid the final blow) Security: -9.8 Alliance: M. PIRE Corp: STK Scientific Ship: Wyvern Weapon: Templar
I, erm, like kill things and stuff |
Brut Brit
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.07.06 18:18:00 -
[265]
Originally by: Davlin Lotze Let's just put this in bullet form to save on space and hopefully clear up some of the factless statements coming from some in this thread:
1) I was in a gang doing local defense(not soloing) as one might expect any alliance member in any alliance that wishes to at least try and defend their space at any hour of the day.
2) I was unable to launch any drones at all. This was before and after local ballooned in count.
3) I never saw a single hostile fighter or drone on my display during the entire encounter.
4) I noted extremely poor tactics on the part of the hostile dictor force. They were orbitting about at 15km in a very nonchalant fashion. Had I been able to deploy drones, 1/2 to 3/4th of them would have been dead within 90 seconds to 2 minutes. TBH, BE have a much better command of their dictor tactics than what I saw from the hostiles last night.
5) I've survived three to four desynchs before. Never had I ever been without the ability to deploy drones and defend myself. Something else was going on with the node\TQ last night.
6) What saved snigg et al was their willingness to log out in combat and log back in to save their objective from failing. I never log in combat. I guess that's one difference between attackers and myself. Perhaps CCP can send some signals whether premeditated logging in and out from combat is acceptable or not. I think it shows weak character but I'm old and very old fashioned in that way :)
hahahaha, Stop making crap up. You lost your MS becouse your stupid. END OF ============================== WTB: Pith C-Type Large Shield Booster. WTB: Kaikka's Modified Large Shield Booster. WTB: Dread Guristas Stasis Webifier.
EvE Mail me. |
Ohne
Minmatar Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.06 18:19:00 -
[266]
Originally by: Davlin Lotze Let's just put this in bullet form to save on space and hopefully clear up some of the factless statements coming from some in this thread:
1) I was in a gang doing local defense(not soloing) as one might expect any alliance member in any alliance that wishes to at least try and defend their space at any hour of the day.
2) I was unable to launch any drones at all. This was before and after local ballooned in count.
3) I never saw a single hostile fighter or drone on my display during the entire encounter.
4) I noted extremely poor tactics on the part of the hostile dictor force. They were orbitting about at 15km in a very nonchalant fashion. Had I been able to deploy drones, 1/2 to 3/4th of them would have been dead within 90 seconds to 2 minutes. TBH, BE have a much better command of their dictor tactics than what I saw from the hostiles last night.
5) I've survived three to four desynchs before. Never had I ever been without the ability to deploy drones and defend myself. Something else was going on with the node\TQ last night.
6) What saved snigg et al was their willingness to log out in combat and log back in to save their objective from failing. I never log in combat. I guess that's one difference between attackers and myself. Perhaps CCP can send some signals whether premeditated logging in and out from combat is acceptable or not. I think it shows weak character but I'm old and very old fashioned in that way :)
Ok...
"I never saw a single hostile fighter or drone on my display during the entire encounter."
"I noted extremely poor tactics on the part of the hostile dictor force. They were orbitting about at 15km in a very nonchalant fashion."
So you just saw what you wanted to see?
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Factor Benz
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.06 18:22:00 -
[267]
Edited by: Factor Benz on 06/07/2007 18:21:57
Originally by: Ohne
Originally by: Davlin Lotze Let's just put this in bullet form to save on space and hopefully clear up some of the factless statements coming from some in this thread:
1) I was in a gang doing local defense(not soloing) as one might expect any alliance member in any alliance that wishes to at least try and defend their space at any hour of the day.
2) I was unable to launch any drones at all. This was before and after local ballooned in count.
3) I never saw a single hostile fighter or drone on my display during the entire encounter.
4) I noted extremely poor tactics on the part of the hostile dictor force. They were orbitting about at 15km in a very nonchalant fashion. Had I been able to deploy drones, 1/2 to 3/4th of them would have been dead within 90 seconds to 2 minutes. TBH, BE have a much better command of their dictor tactics than what I saw from the hostiles last night.
5) I've survived three to four desynchs before. Never had I ever been without the ability to deploy drones and defend myself. Something else was going on with the node\TQ last night.
6) What saved snigg et al was their willingness to log out in combat and log back in to save their objective from failing. I never log in combat. I guess that's one difference between attackers and myself. Perhaps CCP can send some signals whether premeditated logging in and out from combat is acceptable or not. I think it shows weak character but I'm old and very old fashioned in that way :)
Ok...
"I never saw a single hostile fighter or drone on my display during the entire encounter."
"I noted extremely poor tactics on the part of the hostile dictor force. They were orbitting about at 15km in a very nonchalant fashion."
So you just saw what you wanted to see?
M. Pire ships come equipped with a selective reality distortion field which causes lag and all manner of other nasty things causing them to lose constantly, through no fault of their own. Ever.
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Davlin Lotze
STK Scientific M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.07.06 18:22:00 -
[268]
Originally by: Ander
stuff
1) My last killmail was a good hour earlier from five\six jumps away when I jumped in to support a alliance gang vs. a slightly larger hostile gang headed up to mpire space.
2) You made your choice...you logged to avoid a loss. I didn't log because in my three years in Eve honorable pilots never log, regardless.
3) Smart bombs were carefully cycled and turned off prior to repeated attempts to deploy drones. No drones left my ship during the entire encounter because the counters in my overview remained unchanged. I still had the same number of heavy\light\med drones right before I popped than I did at the start.
4) You were able to deploy drones\fighters because you are a logger. Just a fact dude. You choose to log from combat to avoid a loss.
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Evil Night
Minmatar Grave Raiders Inc.
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Posted - 2007.07.06 18:22:00 -
[269]
Just stop crying ok Davlin, Leave it at that !
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Ander
Gallente Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.06 18:23:00 -
[270]
Originally by: Davlin Lotze
Originally by: Ander
stuff
1) My last killmail was a good hour earlier from five\six jumps away when I jumped in to support a alliance gang vs. a slightly larger hostile gang headed up to mpire space.
2) You made your choice...you logged to avoid a loss. I didn't log because in my three years in Eve honorable pilots never log, regardless.
3) Smart bombs were carefully cycled and turned off prior to repeated attempts to deploy drones. No drones left my ship during the entire encounter because the counters in my overview remained unchanged. I still had the same number of heavy\light\med drones right before I popped than I did at the start.
4) You were able to deploy drones\fighters because you are a logger. Just a fact dude. You choose to log from combat to avoid a loss.
stuff
EVE PIRATE ANDER! now posting in "orange" |
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Davlin Lotze
STK Scientific M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.07.06 18:25:00 -
[271]
Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
Originally by: Davlin Lotze You gonna start booting with yourself Shamiz? How many admissions of logging out do we have here? And there's no difference tbh....you left the game to avoid a loss.
Yes, truely ethical eve players all sit there and look at their frozen screen when they fight.
Whatever the servers deal out, you take it. Or you log. I guess we know who chose what course of action.
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Woofs
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.06 18:26:00 -
[272]
In the end, the whining does not matter... You were dead either way...
For all the complaining about how eve is unfair... one thing stands: There is one less Wyvern in Eve.
All you do by running your mouth is make yourself and your corp look bad.
The ship is gone, it is not coming back... move along.
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Ander
Gallente Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.06 18:29:00 -
[273]
Originally by: Davlin Lotze
Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
Originally by: Davlin Lotze You gonna start booting with yourself Shamiz? How many admissions of logging out do we have here? And there's no difference tbh....you left the game to avoid a loss.
Yes, truely ethical eve players all sit there and look at their frozen screen when they fight.
Whatever the servers deal out, you take it. Or you log. I guess we know who chose what course of action.
So you're saying that if a guy jumps into a system and he's blackscreened he should simply have "stayed logged in" cause that's the honourable thing to do? Or if a person undocks from a station and gets blackholed he should stay logged in?
I got blackholed when I jumped into the system with my capitalship, should I not have relogged to clear the client blackscreen?
Additionally, FYI: the dishonourable logouts is generally considered (by consensus) people who log their ship to get insta-warpout. To get out of bubble camps without getting aggroed etc.
EVE PIRATE ANDER! now posting in "orange" |
Taes Valkiir
Caldari Omerta Syndicate Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.07.06 18:32:00 -
[274]
It's a game. If it's desynced game. It's a game I can't play. I'll log back in so I can play it.
Nobody in their right mind will sit at their computers desynced, not playing the game, just so they can claim arbitrarily, that they "didn't log".
Honour doesn't enter the equation mate. People don't relog from desync for any other reason than they want to play the game and when you're desynced, you can't play. Simple as that.
Now please, you are making me argue the case for a bunch of enemies, this has to stop!
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Sebo Darrens
FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.06 18:35:00 -
[275]
Its an unfortunate situation in EVE when you have to relog to keep fighting in most battles over 20 people, since Rev 2. I don't think its dishonorable at all, its a way of trying to avoid a broken game.
The game is still broken though. CCP, please pay attention.
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Davlin Lotze
STK Scientific M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.07.06 18:35:00 -
[276]
At the start of the fight I had 33 fighters in my ship. Right before I popped I had 33 fighters. I had 144 light drones at the start. When I popped I had 144. The counters remained constant. Same with med drones, etc. No drones could be launched depsite dozens of attempts to deploy them.
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Davlin Lotze
STK Scientific M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.07.06 18:40:00 -
[277]
Originally by: Narciss Sevar
Originally by: Davlin Lotze At the start of the fight I had 33 fighters in my ship. Right before I popped I had 33 fighters. I had 144 light drones at the start. When I popped I had 144. The counters remained constant. Same with med drones, etc. No drones could be launched depsite dozens of attempts to deploy them.
No wonder you lost it, you act like a whiny little girl.
says the brave alt.
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Narciss Sevar
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.07.06 18:43:00 -
[278]
Yup i'm a very brave alt.
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SolApathy
Macabre Votum INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.07.06 18:43:00 -
[279]
i dont get what you all trying to achieve with this?
whether is kill was by a fault with the server or good tactics from rzr and PL everything else is just pointless
the pixels that once formed a beautiful wyvern are gone and i dont think anything can be done.
dont hate the players hate the game i guess
tbh all i see this thread during into is more slander and general crap
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Davlin Lotze
STK Scientific M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.07.06 18:43:00 -
[280]
Originally by: Edward Einstein Edited by: Edward Einstein on 06/07/2007 18:39:58
Originally by: Davlin Lotze
Originally by: Ander
stuff
1) My last killmail was a good hour earlier from five\six jumps away when I jumped in to support a alliance gang vs. a slightly larger hostile gang headed up to mpire space.
No your last killmail participation in Razor killboards is a Raven in LXW 13 minutes before your own loss. In that killmail you are second damage dealer with a Templar. I still can't get how you were desynced but you carefully timed your smartbombs and can comment on enemy dictor movement. In my experience when you desync modules are stuck active and all things in your client continue to fly on the direction they were flying.
I never received that killmail. My killmail tally for that night is a hurricane an hour before and then my own losses.
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.06 18:43:00 -
[281]
Things learned: 1: Desynchs are bad atm. 2: Supercaps are easier to kill post-patch. 3: M.Pire are sore losers.
Nice kill Pandemic and pals! Shame about the lag and such. --------
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Shirei
Minmatar Cutting Edge Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.07.06 18:44:00 -
[282]
Edited by: Shirei on 06/07/2007 18:44:34
Originally by: Davlin Lotze At the start of the fight I had 33 fighters in my ship. Right before I popped I had 33 fighters. I had 144 light drones at the start. When I popped I had 144. The counters remained constant. Same with med drones, etc. No drones could be launched depsite dozens of attempts to deploy them.
How did your fighters kill a Raven 11 minutes before your ship blew up, if they were not launched? More likely they launched fine, but couldn't be controlled, which happens all too often lately.
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Beyond Horizon
Black Omega Security
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Posted - 2007.07.06 18:44:00 -
[283]
Devlin Lotze you're such a sore whiner looser :( -
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Davlin Lotze
STK Scientific M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.07.06 18:45:00 -
[284]
Originally by: SolApathy i dont get what you all trying to achieve with this?
whether is kill was by a fault with the server or good tactics from rzr and PL everything else is just pointless
the pixels that once formed a beautiful wyvern are gone and i dont think anything can be done.
dont hate the players hate the game i guess
tbh all i see this thread during into is more slander and general crap
Just correct a few inaccuracies. Totally harmless activity :)
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Drosssk
Minmatar Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.06 18:46:00 -
[285]
Originally by: Davlin Lotze says the brave alt.
I reckon he's a main.
All **** aside, de-syncs suck no matter what end of the stick you're on. I totally should have out damaged everyone else on the KM! Having to relog sucks ass. __________________ Sig removed as it is inappropriate. -Conuion Meow ([email protected])
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Davlin Lotze
STK Scientific M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.07.06 18:48:00 -
[286]
Originally by: Beyond Horizon Devlin Lotze you're such a sore whiner looser :(
For me to "lose" in any game, the game has to actually be, well, a "game." You know with rules and mechanics that function to the extent that there are two players or more in the game. Not one player bound and gagged and prevented by server issues from fighting back whilst the other players have their way with them. Get the picture?
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Narciss Sevar
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.07.06 18:50:00 -
[287]
Originally by: Davlin Lotze
Originally by: Beyond Horizon Devlin Lotze you're such a sore whiner looser :(
For me to "lose" in any game, the game has to actually be, well, a "game." You know with rules and mechanics that function to the extent that there are two players or more in the game. Not one player bound and gagged and prevented by server issues from fighting back whilst the other players have their way with them. Get the picture?
So in the situation you put yourself in do you believe you would of survived had there been no d-syncs?
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Aramark
Omega Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.07.06 18:53:00 -
[288]
Davlin Lotze please just go back to Empire, where you are safe there from those ebil dictor bubbles [/url]
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Gnulpie
Minmatar Miner Tech
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Posted - 2007.07.06 18:54:00 -
[289]
Originally by: Beyond Horizon Devlin Lotze you're such a sore whiner looser :(
Ahh, be easy there.
Of course the mothership was doomed, desync or not. So there is no sense in saying 'i would have survived'.
But...loosing a supercapital, any supercapital, unable to fight back is just boring and no fun I think.
If you face certain death, then I guess you at least want to go down with blazing guns in a big fight or such and not sitting around like a duck unable to stuff because of desync or heavy lag.
Same goes for the attackers. I think they expected a huge fight also that's why they brought that much stuff. Most of them desynced too and were not able to fight properly.
So, all in all I think it is quite understandable that people are not too happy about the fight. The outcome seems fair to me though.
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Baddias Mongo
Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.06 18:54:00 -
[290]
Edited by: Baddias Mongo on 06/07/2007 18:58:22
Originally by: Davlin Lotze
4) I noted extremely poor tactics on the part of the hostile dictor force. They were orbitting about at 15km in a very nonchalant fashion. Had I been able to deploy drones, 1/2 to 3/4th of them would have been dead within 90 seconds to 2 minutes. TBH, BE have a much better command of their dictor tactics than what I saw from the hostiles last night.
I was one of the dictor pilots last night.
I can say that at the start of the fight I came in to 15km to drop the bubble then moved further out again. Once i saw you were not going after the dictors I just orbitted at 15km to save time. Further more if you were desynched at the start like you say then how could you have seen what the dictors were doing? Surely we would have just been frozen on your screen.
Got to say the desynching was terrible though, I got it twice and missed the end of the fight while relogging. Its a miracle we were able to hold you in the bubbles with the amount of desynchs the dictors were getting IMO.
CCP needs to get this desynching sorted quickly or roll the code back to Rev I if a fix is not forthcoming. It will kill the game very quickly if left unchecked. |
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Beyond Horizon
Black Omega Security
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Posted - 2007.07.06 18:55:00 -
[291]
Originally by: Aramark Davlin Lotze please just go back to Empire, where you are safe there from those ebil dictor bubbles
signed
Originally by: Davlin Lotze For me to "lose" in any game, the game has to actually be, well, a "game." You know with rules and mechanics that function to the extent that there are two players or more in the game. Not one player bound and gagged and prevented by server issues from fighting back whilst the other players have their way with them. Get the picture?
Still doesn't change the fact you're whining the sh1at out of these forums right now :P -
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Gungankllr
Caldari STK Scientific M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.07.06 18:58:00 -
[292]
I've known Dav for quite a while, and I really don't think he would make up stories just because he lost a ship.
I don't speak for the Snigg bubbas, but if he had tried to log to cure the desynch, one of four things would have happened (or a combination of)
1. Everybody would have been all over his ass on the forums for trying to log to save his ship, and nobody would listen that he had tried to log to clear the desynch
2. He would have logged, then tried to log back in and sat at the loading screen FOREVER (which is what happens to me when there's a desynch/server side lag issue)
3. He would have logged out and back in and continued to fight, and maybe managed to cyno out
4. He would have logged out and back in and died.
I wasn't online when this all went down, but it's a "He said they said" issue now.
I think logging to fix your client is smart gameplay, until CCP decides to stop with the bells and whistles and wade into the problems with fleet battles we have nowadays.
But in reality, there isn't a way to tell who logged to avoid a blob or bubble or combat, and who logged to fix a screwy client. Which is too bad.
Looking at the killmail, Snigg had enough firepower to kill that MS in about 7-10 minutes as long as they kept the dictor bubbles going. (Just an educated guess)
It sucks that there was a desynch at all, because there's really no way of knowing how it would have turned out.
Snigg says that the desynch wouldn't have made a difference, other people say it would have made a difference if it wasn't there.
I guess the bottom line is GG to Snigg for bringing it, and GG to Dav for putting it out there every day since we built it.
I'd much rather lose something like that in combat with some worthy folks than to some asshat like Starwolf that cancelled the builds on two of them.
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Hubris
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.06 18:59:00 -
[293]
Any Pandemic Legion pilot that logs to save a ship in combat will be ejected from the corp. Period, end of story. All pilots know this and abide by the rule.
We have had (If i remember right) 2 pilots that have logged to save a ship in 4+ years of Sn1gg then later pandemic legion. They were booted as a result. We are one of the few in eve that even have this rule. We are also one of the few that have ever enforced this rule.
Sn1gg have been one of the most honorable and longest lasting pirate force in eve's history. People that know this will always call BS when a person such as Davlin attacks with baseless accusations.
Just stop the BS and admit that you were caught with your pants down. BE A MAN ABOUT IT. You became predictable and lost your ship as a result. Its a reality that you will have to deal with, and a lesson that all super cap pilots will need to remember from this day forward.
Super caps are no longer the invulnerable ships they once were. They now take the place they were meant for in fleet combat.
Davlin a final word of advise to you. Responding further in this thread will only tarnish you, your corp, and your alliances reputation more and more. Is it really worth it?
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Captain Irregardless
Gallente DAB
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Posted - 2007.07.06 19:07:00 -
[294]
When dbp is a better model for posting on Eve-O* than you are, something is very, very wrong.
Stop acting like a little girl with a skinned knee. When you do stupid things, your ship dies. I know this from experience, including dying to your fellow pilots yesterday. Just because you were in a bigger, much more expensive ship doesn't make you immune from this fact.
*does not reflect on his posting elsewhere
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Map Screen
Flat Earth Society
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Posted - 2007.07.06 19:10:00 -
[295]
Originally by: Gungankllr I'd much rather lose something like that in combat with some worthy folks than to some asshat like Starwolf that cancelled the builds on two of them.
So this is technically STK's 4th mothership loss?
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Jags
Minmatar M. Corp M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.07.06 19:12:00 -
[296]
STFU m8 you are making us look like ****s.
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doctorstupid2
Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.07.06 19:13:00 -
[297]
Can't we all just shoot each other without the smacktalk? sheesh
Steel Rat > if they only knew we make this **** up as we go |
Another Exgirlfriend
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Posted - 2007.07.06 19:13:00 -
[298]
Originally by: Hubris Edited by: Hubris on 06/07/2007 19:04:05 Edited by: Hubris on 06/07/2007 18:59:52 Any Pandemic Legion pilot that logs to save a ship in combat will be ejected from the Alliance. Period, end of story. All pilots know this and abide by the rule.
We have had (If i remember right) 2 pilots that have logged to save a ship in 4+ years of Sn1gg then later pandemic legion. They were booted as a result. We are one of the few in eve that even have this rule. We are also one of the few that have ever enforced this rule.
Sn1gg have been one of the most honorable and longest lasting pirate forces in eve's history. People that know this will always call BS when a person such as Davlin attacks with baseless accusations.
Someone remind that to Gokill of Pandemic who logged to save his cerberus + pod the other evening.
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Hubris
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.06 19:15:00 -
[299]
Originally by: Another Exgirlfriend
Originally by: Hubris Edited by: Hubris on 06/07/2007 19:04:05 Edited by: Hubris on 06/07/2007 18:59:52 Any Pandemic Legion pilot that logs to save a ship in combat will be ejected from the Alliance. Period, end of story. All pilots know this and abide by the rule.
We have had (If i remember right) 2 pilots that have logged to save a ship in 4+ years of Sn1gg then later pandemic legion. They were booted as a result. We are one of the few in eve that even have this rule. We are also one of the few that have ever enforced this rule.
Sn1gg have been one of the most honorable and longest lasting pirate forces in eve's history. People that know this will always call BS when a person such as Davlin attacks with baseless accusations.
Someone remind that to Gokill of Pandemic who logged to save his cerberus + pod the other evening.
If that happened report it and it will be investigated. -
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Jaffur
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Posted - 2007.07.06 19:24:00 -
[300]
Edited by: Jaffur on 06/07/2007 19:36:50 alt
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Fuglife
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.07.06 19:25:00 -
[301]
UT OH SPAGEEEEEETIII OOOOOOOO'S
I know Welsh Wizard! 3rd Best pvper in Eve |
Helen
STK Scientific
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Posted - 2007.07.06 19:26:00 -
[302]
Originally by: Map Screen
Originally by: Gungankllr I'd much rather lose something like that in combat with some worthy folks than to some asshat like Starwolf that cancelled the builds on two of them.
So this is technically STK's 4th mothership loss?
No Davlin has had his Wyvern much longer than STK had Mothership build projects.
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Krauss
Viper Squad Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.07.06 19:28:00 -
[303]
Nice kill on the MS. It is sad the fight suffered from the de-sync feature currently in game, but this is something that I would think every capital pilot is aware of atm, and its a risk everyone in large engagements is going to take until it is fixed.
Having knowing this, I think congrats are in order to PL and gang for an awesome capital take down.
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Royaldo
Gallente KVA Noble Inc.
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Posted - 2007.07.06 19:30:00 -
[304]
Originally by: Helen
Originally by: SolApathy
ps what was the second STK mom loss? just wondering.
2nd Aeon was cooking in ze oven when it got cancelled by a corp theif.
cancelled supercap in cooker = lost mins?
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Shirei
Minmatar Cutting Edge Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.07.06 19:35:00 -
[305]
Originally by: Royaldo
Originally by: Helen
Originally by: SolApathy
ps what was the second STK mom loss? just wondering.
2nd Aeon was cooking in ze oven when it got cancelled by a corp theif.
cancelled supercap in cooker = lost mins?
Any cancelled factory job = lost mins.
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Jaffur
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Posted - 2007.07.06 19:36:00 -
[306]
Edited by: Jaffur on 06/07/2007 19:36:05
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Dylan Rhade
Caldari UK Corp FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.06 19:36:00 -
[307]
Edited by: Dylan Rhade on 06/07/2007 19:36:08 How can PL talk about tarnishing a corp's rep by smack? the only thing that keeps your rep above Goons is your pvp antics.
D
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Sentinel Eeex
Caldari Lords Of Amber
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Posted - 2007.07.06 19:41:00 -
[308]
Originally by: Natsuki 6m tech 2 destroyer > 30b mothership.
balance ftw?
6mil inty > 1+bil BS? 5mil covops > D2 Titan?
Blah, blah, blah.
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Gokil
North Eastern Swat
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Posted - 2007.07.06 19:42:00 -
[309]
Originally by: Another Exgirlfriend
Someone remind that to Gokill of Pandemic who logged to save his cerberus + pod the other evening.
I was desynced and have a petition out on that. The desynching is no fun and makes it especially difficult to fight in even small fleet engagements. CCP needs to find a way to solve this.
I relogged twice in the Wyvern kill last night as well. At least I was there
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Factor Benz
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.06 19:49:00 -
[310]
Originally by: Dylan Rhade Edited by: Dylan Rhade on 06/07/2007 19:36:08 How can PL talk about tarnishing a corp's rep by smack? the only thing that keeps your rep above Goons is your pvp antics.
D
The only thing that keeps your rep... oh wait.
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Paxdrago
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.06 19:51:00 -
[311]
Originally by: Gungankllr Edited by: Gungankllr on 06/07/2007 19:40:47
2. He would have logged, then tried to log back in and sat at the loading screen FOREVER (which is what happens to me when there's a desynch/server side lag issue)
There really weren't enough people in local for it to take too long to get back in. I didn't sit loading but about 15 seconds and i only desynched 1 time. There were several in the group that desynched 3 or more times and had no trouble getting back in.
"I'm a blurr of carebearing streaking across the universe" - Shamis Orzoz |
Map Screen
Flat Earth Society
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Posted - 2007.07.06 19:54:00 -
[312]
Originally by: Helen
Originally by: Map Screen
Originally by: Gungankllr I'd much rather lose something like that in combat with some worthy folks than to some asshat like Starwolf that cancelled the builds on two of them.
So this is technically STK's 4th mothership loss?
No Davlin has had his Wyvern much longer than STK had Mothership build projects.
I understand that part, it's just that Gungan makes it sound like starwolf killed 2 mothership builds.
Originally by: Factor Benz
Originally by: Dylan Rhade Edited by: Dylan Rhade on 06/07/2007 19:36:08 How can PL talk about tarnishing a corp's rep by smack? the only thing that keeps your rep above Goons is your pvp antics.
D
The only thing that keeps your rep... oh wait.
The fatal guys are just a little confused with all their tactical "relocations" as of late.
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Phelan Lore
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.06 19:59:00 -
[313]
Originally by: Davlin Lotze At the start of the fight I had 33 fighters in my ship. Right before I popped I had 33 fighters. I had 144 light drones at the start. When I popped I had 144. The counters remained constant. Same with med drones, etc. No drones could be launched depsite dozens of attempts to deploy them.
2007.07.06 04:26
Victim: Phelan Lore Alliance: Pandemic Legion Corp: S******dly Destroyed: Sabre System: LXWN-W Security: 0.0
Involved parties:
Name: Davlin Lotze Security: -9.8 Alliance: M. PIRE Corp: STK Scientific Ship: Wyvern Weapon: Hobgoblin I
Name: Scourge Heavy Missile / Guristas (laid the final blow)
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Damia
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.06 20:24:00 -
[314]
Desync's last night were the worst I've ever seen.
Having to log out/in three different times let a damn Deimos get ahead of me on the kill mail though. At least I was on it \o/
I was shocked to see all the capitals when I jumped in. I was clueless as to the scope of the gang we organized to kill that thing. Grats. __________________________________ :Signed: |
Lakhthaar
Gallente STK Scientific M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.07.06 20:27:00 -
[315]
Keep in mind that if you are desynched, what you see on your screen is not an accurate reflection of what is actually going on. Debating what actually happened is an argument of futility.
Merely pointing these facts out doesn't constitute whining. Who lost their ship is irrelevant really. We all know it could have and should have been much more of a battle.
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Gungankllr
Caldari STK Scientific M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.07.06 20:29:00 -
[316]
Originally by: Map Screen I understand that part, it's just that Gungan makes it sound like starwolf killed 2 mothership builds.
Yeah, I went back and edited my post about an hour ago.
He cancelled the Aeon build and stole the Aeon BPO, at some point I had confused the Aeon BPO with another MS build.
(I.e. I thought that we had two that were cancelled instead of one)
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Sentinel Eeex
Caldari Lords Of Amber
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Posted - 2007.07.06 20:36:00 -
[317]
Originally by: Barthezz
Well your saying that, but 1-2 dictors (well 3 as a bob guy said) can keep a MS pinned long enough for a fleet to come from miles away. I'm all for making super caps killable, but this is a bit too easy imho.
No, they can't. Support fleet will pop dictors in split second.
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Cassiuss
Minmatar State of Shock
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Posted - 2007.07.06 20:40:00 -
[318]
Sorry for your loss Davlin. Your a helleva pilot, I hope CCP realized something is very wrong and you get your mum back.
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CEO Pyrex
DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.06 20:54:00 -
[319]
a solo ship regardless of what it is should not trump a properly set up fleet. Before the patch it was crazy that you could not engage these super caps even if you had significant firepower to make a dent.
The ability to stop the few solo players thinking they are invinsible is awesome and where a game designed to be multiplayer should be.
the many > the one.
P.s gungan - wtf you doing in a pro bob corp dude, come to the darkstar.....
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Helen
STK Scientific M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.07.06 20:56:00 -
[320]
Originally by: CEO Pyrex a solo ship regardless of what it is should not trump a properly set up fleet. Before the patch it was crazy that you could not engage these super caps even if you had significant firepower to make a dent.
The ability to stop the few solo players thinking they are invinsible is awesome and where a game designed to be multiplayer should be.
the many > the one.
P.s gungan - wtf you doing in a pro bob corp dude, come to the darkstar.....
No wai we love the BoB.
STK providing Mothership deaths since 2007 |
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CEO Pyrex
DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.06 21:15:00 -
[321]
Originally by: Helen
Originally by: CEO Pyrex
stuff
P.s gungan - wtf you doing in a pro bob corp dude, come to the darkstar.....
No wai we love the BoB.
Heh it was fire69 (famous bob emo monkey) commiserating him on the loss, seemed awfully friendly to me. I think i saw him pat your mans knee as well.......
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Helen
STK Scientific M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.07.06 21:27:00 -
[322]
Me and fire59 go a long way back over 3 years before he was even in BoB so what?
Next thing I'll have Virt coming here posting how STK was BoB's industrial spy corp in ASCN or some crap.
STK providing Mothership deaths since 2007 |
Akov Stohs
FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.06 21:41:00 -
[323]
Just a note, a support fleet did show up, well with in time to make a difference. Not saying that we would of saved the mom, but I am willing to say at least there would of been a fight. You probably would of lost most/all of your dictors, but because of the desync the mom would probably never made it out even if we did clear all of the dictors off. *shrug* Yall got an near effortless kill because of the servers. It was a good trap but far from full proof. my sig is too big |
Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Elite
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Posted - 2007.07.06 21:46:00 -
[324]
Originally by: Shamis Orzoz Edited by: Shamis Orzoz on 06/07/2007 06:27:09 Today at approximately 04:30, Davlin Lotze, of M. Pire lost his Wyvern in LXWN-W.
Ernest and I planned the attack for several days, and it went off without a hitch..apart from the desynch's.
Thanks to Razor and all the Pandemic legion guy that came out.
Shamis
P.S. CCP thanks for all the de-sync's...
This ******* got me once, i still hold that grudge, would be gratefull if you could send me a copy of the KM, or at elast direct me to it on killboards so i can SS this and put it as my screen saver or smth...
Good job, he deserved this. - The mods shall not have my sig, if they do i'll kill CCP's hamsters.
kill 'em! we have backup gerbils - Deckard *kills any rodents of any kind for good measure* ha! |
TenthReality
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.06 21:54:00 -
[325]
Another Video
No boom, desynch prevented that. Enjoy
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Akov Stohs
FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.06 21:59:00 -
[326]
Originally by: TenthReality Another Video
No boom, desynch prevented that. Enjoy
Still funny in Farscape's that the wreck stays there and the mother ship keeps on trucking even after he loots it. my sig is too big |
Gungankllr
Caldari STK Scientific M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.07.06 22:07:00 -
[327]
Originally by: CEO Pyrex
P.s gungan - wtf you doing in a pro bob corp dude, come to the darkstar.....
thanks for the offer, but I'm having fun where I'm at.
M.Pire and STK are a good group of lads.
As for pro-BoB- I don't even know what our standings are with BoB. I haven't seen any on my overview or in any gang I've been in thus far.
As time has gone on I'm actually happy that ASCN got blown up, because we were worried more about making isk and putting up outposts than getting our crap together to defend what we put up.
Anyhow, it's beaten, dead, buried, dug up, beaten, buried, dug up and beaten some more.
I think the horse has had enough.
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Orree
Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.07.06 22:26:00 -
[328]
Originally by: Taes Valkiir It's a game. If it's desynced game. It's a game I can't play. I'll log back in so I can play it.
Nobody in their right mind will sit at their computers desynced, not playing the game, just so they can claim arbitrarily, that they "didn't log".
<snip>
They do if they're equivocating and spinning like a press secretary on speed. Our recently-deceased mothership pilot is doing just that.
No one denies desync sucks. The rest is garbage.
This guy ought to a take a cue from Helen, tbh.
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maGz
Chaos Reborn
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Posted - 2007.07.06 22:31:00 -
[329]
Originally by: Davlin Lotze Let's just put this in bullet form to save on space and hopefully clear up some of the factless statements coming from some in this thread:
1) I was in a gang doing local defense(not soloing) as one might expect any alliance member in any alliance that wishes to at least try and defend their space at any hour of the day.
2) I was unable to launch any drones at all. This was before and after local ballooned in count.
3) I never saw a single hostile fighter or drone on my display during the entire encounter.
4) I noted extremely poor tactics on the part of the hostile dictor force. They were orbitting about at 15km in a very nonchalant fashion. Had I been able to deploy drones, 1/2 to 3/4th of them would have been dead within 90 seconds to 2 minutes. TBH, BE have a much better command of their dictor tactics than what I saw from the hostiles last night.
5) I've survived three to four desynchs before. Never had I ever been without the ability to deploy drones and defend myself. Something else was going on with the node\TQ last night.
6) What saved snigg et al was their willingness to log out in combat and log back in to save their objective from failing. I never log in combat. I guess that's one difference between attackers and myself. Perhaps CCP can send some signals whether premeditated logging in and out from combat is acceptable or not. I think it shows weak character but I'm old and very old fashioned in that way :)
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I'm cool
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Akov Stohs
FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.06 22:31:00 -
[330]
Originally by: TenthReality Another Video
No boom, desynch prevented that. Enjoy
Also liked how you were so desynced that the torps where orbiting the mom in the beginning. my sig is too big |
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Ryo Jang
Central Defiance
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Posted - 2007.07.06 22:35:00 -
[331]
i wish people wouldnt arrange so many number of pilots that it lags everyone out, and then claim a kill as a supreme display of skill, its just not.
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Superbus Maximus
Gallente Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.06 22:41:00 -
[332]
Edited by: Superbus Maximus on 06/07/2007 22:40:46
Originally by: Ryo Jang i wish people wouldnt arrange so many number of pilots that it lags everyone out, and then claim a kill as a supreme display of skill, its just not.
It takes a blob to kill a super cap, and it took a lot of skill and effort to properly plan and execute this kind of kill. If you had ever attempted and succeed in killing one you would know.
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Dramaticus
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.06 22:43:00 -
[333]
Originally by: Ryo Jang i wish people wouldnt arrange so many number of pilots that it lags everyone out, and then claim a kill as a supreme display of skill, its just not.
Really. We should have jousting contests. Your signature was inappropriate, email [email protected] to find out why (don't forget to include a link to it) -Sahwoolo |
Malcore Trisus
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.06 22:45:00 -
[334]
Originally by: Ryo Jang i wish people wouldnt arrange so many number of pilots that it lags everyone out, and then claim a kill as a supreme display of skill, its just not.
So, we shouldnt have brought 80 people for a supercap kill? Next it will be "Oh noes! Snigg crashed the node w/ their 10 man ceptor gang! H4X!"
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Shirei
Minmatar Cutting Edge Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.07.06 22:53:00 -
[335]
Originally by: Ryo Jang i wish people wouldnt arrange so many number of pilots that it lags everyone out, and then claim a kill as a supreme display of skill, its just not.
The way the game is developing is towards large battles over expensive single targets at specific times (POS coming out of reinforced, sov 2/3 timers becoming active, supercaps).
Inevitably, since the targets get ever larger, harder to kill and more expensive, people are forced to bring more and more people to successfully take them on. Blaming people for bringing blobs when bringing small gangs would simply either take an insanely long time to accomplish the same or simply not work is a bit silly.
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Divine Beauty
North Eastern Swat
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Posted - 2007.07.06 23:18:00 -
[336]
seriousley take the loss as it is and dont go whining this much, the accusations about loggin are just rubbish. The only support you get from that will be from fatal or any other alliance that got their ass handed to them by snigg.
Sorry for your loss davlin but now stop being a child about it Good job to snigg whether desynch, uber lagg or whatever. Stop sucking CCP fix the damn bugs instead of adding **** to the game we dont need. And those alliances that got their asses kicked by snigg...grow up fight back stop whining.
Jeeeeez the forum drama.. /me starts training forumwhoring skillz
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PCaBoo
Dirt Nap Squad FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.06 23:34:00 -
[337]
Wow. Trollathon.
I've flown with davlin in IO. I must say, he's pretty good with protecting the Wyvern. He's been flying it on the frontlines for quite some time and has never been afraid of engaging anyone. I find it hard to believe that he would go down so 'easily' to the group. I've also never known him to lie about anything. He may embellish the story a little for effect, but a liar he is not.
I hope somehow you get the mom back, but if you don't, it was a heck of a run.
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Lsf XXi
Merch Industrial We Are Nice Guys
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Posted - 2007.07.06 23:40:00 -
[338]
I must say, he's pretty good with protecting the Wyvern.
He's been flying it on the frontlines for quite some time and has never been afraid of engaging anyone
These two things don't go together post rev 2 patch.
Quote: Lady Gadiva > lets hide our numbers and be ***
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar Spartan Industries Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.07.06 23:41:00 -
[339]
Originally by: PCaBoo He may embellish the story a little for effect, but a liar he is not.
I hope somehow you get the mom back, but if you don't, it was a heck of a run.
Ok, so he embellished the truth a little, but he did not go down "easy". There was **** loads of capitals on him. No MS can tank that crowd. The guy fought back as well as anyone could, he even managed to get some kills as he died.
Sorry for your loss Davlin, but it was a genuine kill xxx
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Ander
Gallente Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.07 00:32:00 -
[340]
Originally by: Akov Stohs Just a note, a support fleet did show up, well with in time to make a difference. Not saying that we would of saved the mom, but I am willing to say at least there would of been a fight. You probably would of lost most/all of your dictors, but because of the desync the mom would probably never made it out even if we did clear all of the dictors off. *shrug* Yall got an near effortless kill because of the servers. It was a good trap but far from full proof.
Your support fleet showed up when the mothership was already way past half armor. Most of your guys were still by the station according to our intel during most of the fight. It wasn't until at the end when you jumped in with a couple of cruiser-sized ships. Warning, speculation based on numbers: Though your gang would probably not have been able to take out 10 dictors before being popped by the sizable support fleet of ours had you jumped into the fight earlier.
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Altai Saker
Omniscient Order
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Posted - 2007.07.07 00:41:00 -
[341]
Should have stuck to lowsec with this mom
http://www.omniscient-order.com/
Sahwoolo Etoophie is a noob!
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mamolian
M. Corp M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.07.07 00:57:00 -
[342]
Originally by: Helen
Originally by: SolApathy
ps what was the second STK mom loss? just wondering.
2nd Aeon was cooking in ze oven when it got cancelled by a corp theif.
Thats just mean!
As for the Mommy loss, Davlin might of gotten away with it before the recent patch.. Grats to Pandemic/Razor, Nice kill for you guys. For the smackstars in this thread.. seriously.. **** off muppets.
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Namingway
Important Yet Underrated Video Game Characters
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Posted - 2007.07.07 01:06:00 -
[343]
Originally by: Davlin Lotze Complete desynch from the start. I wasn't able to launch a single drone the entire fight.
The petition has been submitted.
I hope it gets rejected, far too many people petition and cry and get back ships they would have lost even with 0 lag.
Originally by: CCP kieron If a member of the EVE community finds he or she cannot accept our current level of transparency, we bid you good luck in finding a company that meets your needs.
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Namingway
Important Yet Underrated Video Game Characters
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Posted - 2007.07.07 01:26:00 -
[344]
Originally by: Stahlregen
Originally by: Davlin Lotze Complete desynch from the start. I wasn't able to launch a single drone the entire fight.
The petition has been submitted.
Ask Shrike how well that went.
Lets be hnest now, if Shrike had gotten a reimb there would have been a threadnaught.
Originally by: CCP kieron If a member of the EVE community finds he or she cannot accept our current level of transparency, we bid you good luck in finding a company that meets your needs.
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Namingway
Important Yet Underrated Video Game Characters
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Posted - 2007.07.07 01:36:00 -
[345]
Originally by: Randay
Originally by: Superbus Maximus
Originally by: Randay so what is eve at now for momships? 6? 7?
As in killed or left alive?
I believe that was the first Wyvern to be killed and the 4th MoM to be killed maybe 5th.
Left I alive I have no Idea.
killed ofc, nobody celebrates thier births, only deaths. theres probably like over 40+ alive anyway. I think this is also STKs second mom loss. i pity thier capital construction dude.
Davlin is independently wealthy (I believe he has a cerb BPO) and bought that MoM before he was in M. Pire.
Originally by: CCP kieron If a member of the EVE community finds he or she cannot accept our current level of transparency, we bid you good luck in finding a company that meets your needs.
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Namingway
Important Yet Underrated Video Game Characters
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Posted - 2007.07.07 01:41:00 -
[346]
Originally by: KillmAll187 Edited by: KillmAll187 on 06/07/2007 09:02:45
Originally by: Ohne
Originally by: SATAN Edited by: SATAN on 06/07/2007 05:38:53 Congrats guys,
Do you think he would have been done for if he had control of the ship? Please give us a step by step of the encounter.
For my part, If we wouldnt have desynced, he would have died in about 1 to 2 mins max. Instead he was alive and kicking for at least 5-6 mins and therefore crawled off about 20 kms before he died. (had like 7-8 bubbles in his way though)
The desync made him live longer if anything.
You are mad. Look at the Helen Aeon killmail. You fleet had 4 dreads? PFFFF. I was in a helios the whole time. Switched to Dictor overview and counted 6 with 1 dictor wreck-so that makes 7. No way only 7 interdictors can keep the mothership there, ya know, if the game works. I know this is about EPEEN waving and all that, but you guys have to admit the kill is sort of tainted.
Edit to counter your edits: Well, allow me to retort. You may have had 10, but only 6 were on the grid. Maybe other 3 warped? The point I'm trying to make is all he has to do is get them to warp and then he can warp to a POS when the bubbles drop. I admit there was a crapton of them up. Bubbles ontop of bubbles. 20 Warrior IIs do mean things to interdictors, however.
In conclusion, gj on the kill. It clearly took lots of planning to execute.
Carriers, especially with Triage, do mean things to Dictor tanking abilities.
Plus an anti-drone ship or two > 20 warrior IIs.
Eagle for 200km drone defense ftw imo.
Originally by: CCP kieron If a member of the EVE community finds he or she cannot accept our current level of transparency, we bid you good luck in finding a company that meets your needs.
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Necro EvilZombie
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.07 01:47:00 -
[347]
HOLY QUADRUPLE POST BATMAN!
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Namingway
Important Yet Underrated Video Game Characters
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Posted - 2007.07.07 02:11:00 -
[348]
Originally by: Davlin Lotze
Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
Originally by: Davlin Lotze 6) What saved snigg et al was their willingness to log out in combat and log back in to save their objective from failing. I never log in combat. I guess that's one difference between attackers and myself. Perhaps CCP can send some signals whether premeditated logging in and out from combat is acceptable or not. I think it shows weak character but I'm old and very old fashioned in that way :)
Any snigg pilot that logs in combat to save his ship gets booted from the corp.
There's a big difference between logging to save your ship, and relogging because you are desynced. There's a difference between being old fashioned and being stupid.
You gonna start booting with yourself Shamiz? How many admissions of logging out do we have here? And there's no difference tbh....you left the game to avoid a loss.
Are you whining that they relogged due to the clinet desyncs and you didn't relog to fix them?
I don't think you know what a 'logoff' in PvP is Davlin.
Originally by: CCP kieron If a member of the EVE community finds he or she cannot accept our current level of transparency, we bid you good luck in finding a company that meets your needs.
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Namingway
Important Yet Underrated Video Game Characters
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Posted - 2007.07.07 02:15:00 -
[349]
Originally by: Davlin Lotze
Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
Originally by: Davlin Lotze You gonna start booting with yourself Shamiz? How many admissions of logging out do we have here? And there's no difference tbh....you left the game to avoid a loss.
Yes, truely ethical eve players all sit there and look at their frozen screen when they fight.
Funny, the server dealt you a Wyvern loss, but you've petitioned it.
Whatever the servers deal out, you take it. Or you log. I guess we know who chose what course of action.
Originally by: CCP kieron If a member of the EVE community finds he or she cannot accept our current level of transparency, we bid you good luck in finding a company that meets your needs.
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PCaBoo
Dirt Nap Squad FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.07 03:08:00 -
[350]
Originally by: Lsf XXi I must say, he's pretty good with protecting the Wyvern.
He's been flying it on the frontlines for quite some time and has never been afraid of engaging anyone
These two things don't go together post rev 2 patch.
If you're not going to use it, why bother building it? 20+ Mining Drones 4tw?
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PCaBoo
Dirt Nap Squad FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.07 03:14:00 -
[351]
Originally by: Flinx Evenstar
Originally by: PCaBoo He may embellish the story a little for effect, but a liar he is not.
I hope somehow you get the mom back, but if you don't, it was a heck of a run.
Ok, so he embellished the truth a little, but he did not go down "easy". There was **** loads of capitals on him. No MS can tank that crowd. The guy fought back as well as anyone could, he even managed to get some kills as he died.
Sorry for your loss Davlin, but it was a genuine kill xxx
I wasn't there. I don't know. If there was a clearer picture painted, maybe I could make a better statement. But afaik (from my personal experience flying with the guy), his loss sounds kind of lame. I'm not saying that to try and take anything away from the effort put in to get the kill... it's just anti-climactic to hear.
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Vily
Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.07.07 03:44:00 -
[352]
I'll lay out some simple facts from what i can sort through.
according to the KM he had an officer Web. When you combine that with a NOS, It basically means that you can kill a dictor in under ten seconds. Doubt me? try it. Heavies will chew through the dictor before he can press the spam armor need button. 20 heavies, will literally 1 or 2 volley a webbed dictor. So Basically most of your dictors could have been fried within a very short 1-3 minute period. I know that it's very easy with a dictors only overview setting.
Secondly. Firepower. The Km has 4 dreads on it. Numbers as high as a dozen have been thrown around. actual please someone? A Mothership can transversal tank dreads EASILY if he's smart, and can smartbomb fighters like swiss cheese. You realistically need 20+ dreads to take down a non-NOS'd (cap'd out) mom. Did you have that?
anyways, it wont be re-imbursed, but I dont know how strong the actual kill is. -
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Fry Fortune
Ultrapolite Socialites GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.07 03:53:00 -
[353]
Originally by: Vily I'll lay out some simple facts from what i can sort through.
according to the KM he had an officer Web. When you combine that with a NOS, It basically means that you can kill a dictor in under ten seconds. Doubt me? try it. Heavies will chew through the dictor before he can press the spam armor need button. 20 heavies, will literally 1 or 2 volley a webbed dictor. So Basically most of your dictors could have been fried within a very short 1-3 minute period. I know that it's very easy with a dictors only overview setting.
Secondly. Firepower. The Km has 4 dreads on it. Numbers as high as a dozen have been thrown around. actual please someone? A Mothership can transversal tank dreads EASILY if he's smart, and can smartbomb fighters like swiss cheese. You realistically need 20+ dreads to take down a non-NOS'd (cap'd out) mom. Did you have that?
anyways, it wont be re-imbursed, but I dont know how strong the actual kill is.
Ok lets work on a couple of things: Firstly: In Farscapes vid, you can tell he has a cap booster fitted onto his dictor, and that his max speed is about 7km/s or something. Officer webs, nos etc require the dictor to stay in range long enough for you to lock him, once the dictors start popping they are going to be divebombing instead of orbiting.
Secondly: Even if he had killed the dictors, any competant supercap killing force has back up dictors for the carriers to **** out, and can move the carriers in to bump anyway.
Really Vily you must be drunk or something, everyone knows why the mothership died, he was predictable enough that a trap was laid and worked. Do the same predictable things over and over, and you will die.
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Vily
Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.07.07 04:04:00 -
[354]
Originally by: Fry Fortune
Originally by: Vily I'll lay out some simple facts from what i can sort through.
according to the KM he had an officer Web. When you combine that with a NOS, It basically means that you can kill a dictor in under ten seconds. Doubt me? try it. Heavies will chew through the dictor before he can press the spam armor need button. 20 heavies, will literally 1 or 2 volley a webbed dictor. So Basically most of your dictors could have been fried within a very short 1-3 minute period. I know that it's very easy with a dictors only overview setting.
Secondly. Firepower. The Km has 4 dreads on it. Numbers as high as a dozen have been thrown around. actual please someone? A Mothership can transversal tank dreads EASILY if he's smart, and can smartbomb fighters like swiss cheese. You realistically need 20+ dreads to take down a non-NOS'd (cap'd out) mom. Did you have that?
anyways, it wont be re-imbursed, but I dont know how strong the actual kill is.
Ok lets work on a couple of things: Firstly: In Farscapes vid, you can tell he has a cap booster fitted onto his dictor, and that his max speed is about 7km/s or something. Officer webs, nos etc require the dictor to stay in range long enough for you to lock him, once the dictors start popping they are going to be divebombing instead of orbiting.
Secondly: Even if he had killed the dictors, any competant supercap killing force has back up dictors for the carriers to **** out, and can move the carriers in to bump anyway.
Really Vily you must be drunk or something, everyone knows why the mothership died, he was predictable enough that a trap was laid and worked. Do the same predictable things over and over, and you will die.
well, i haven't watched the video, but i will say the same. try it. dictors DIE, like flies. ESPECIALLY against an officer web.
as for backup dictors.... try it. slowboating pods getting murdered as they move 20km @ 150m/s. EVEN if you have backup dictors.
dont call me drunk. i have planned this type of **** for months and months and i am QUITE aware what it takes to pull it off -
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Kiko Goatbiter
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.07 04:04:00 -
[355]
I have lots of respect for someone who would never compromise their morals and beliefs to stoop to such a dastardly level of logging off.
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Rania Serlia
World Order The Imperial Order
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Posted - 2007.07.07 04:05:00 -
[356]
Originally by: Fry Fortune
Originally by: Vily I'll lay out some simple facts from what i can sort through.
according to the KM he had an officer Web. When you combine that with a NOS, It basically means that you can kill a dictor in under ten seconds. Doubt me? try it. Heavies will chew through the dictor before he can press the spam armor need button. 20 heavies, will literally 1 or 2 volley a webbed dictor. So Basically most of your dictors could have been fried within a very short 1-3 minute period. I know that it's very easy with a dictors only overview setting.
Secondly. Firepower. The Km has 4 dreads on it. Numbers as high as a dozen have been thrown around. actual please someone? A Mothership can transversal tank dreads EASILY if he's smart, and can smartbomb fighters like swiss cheese. You realistically need 20+ dreads to take down a non-NOS'd (cap'd out) mom. Did you have that?
anyways, it wont be re-imbursed, but I dont know how strong the actual kill is.
Ok lets work on a couple of things: Firstly: In Farscapes vid, you can tell he has a cap booster fitted onto his dictor, and that his max speed is about 7km/s or something. Officer webs, nos etc require the dictor to stay in range long enough for you to lock him, once the dictors start popping they are going to be divebombing instead of orbiting.
Secondly: Even if he had killed the dictors, any competant supercap killing force has back up dictors for the carriers to **** out, and can move the carriers in to bump anyway.
Really Vily you must be drunk or something, everyone knows why the mothership died, he was predictable enough that a trap was laid and worked. Do the same predictable things over and over, and you will die.
Muizuiro's web is a 25km web. Wyvern has a base lockrange of 172km, and he had two best named sensor boosters fitted. Any dictor straying to within 25km should have died fairly quickly due to web+nos+dronage.
Even with anti drone support, losing one fighter from your mom's bay means you can carry infinite warrior IIs.
Still, well executed trap, and even though the mom claims to have been unable to fight back(and he should have been raping dictors/support left and right, the deimos first!).
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Father Calistas
Antipodean inc. Sparta Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.07 04:05:00 -
[357]
Good fight.
These days, if you undock you have to be prepared to lose your ship to a de-synch. Using a carrier to scare people off a gate (Ketch, you crazy Spartan you!) or a Mothership, could result in losing your ship.
Well played Snigg!
SirMolle - *** Bar Video!
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Vily
Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.07.07 04:08:00 -
[358]
1 point i left out.
he may very well have still died.
jsut that the strength of respect deserved for the kill is not so strong -
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mazzilliu
Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.07 04:09:00 -
[359]
gonna post before the trolls take down this thread as hard as that guy's mothership
good job guys \o/ wish i could have been there. was stuck somewhere else IRL :(((
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PCaBoo
Dirt Nap Squad FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.07 04:43:00 -
[360]
Originally by: mazzilliu IRL :(((
IRL's overrated!
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Karsten
Caldari LoneWolf Mining
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Posted - 2007.07.07 05:45:00 -
[361]
Originally by: Shamis Orzoz To those of you who say its too easy to kill motherships:
- We planned the attack for 3 days - Said mothership pilot did the EXACT same thing in the EXACT same system, at the EXACT same time of day, for 2-3 weeks. Anything will die if you're going to be that predictable with no support. - He had less than 10 support ships when he initially attacked. - We baited with only 1 dictor and some battleships. The other 8-10 dictors were spread out 2-3 jumps in different directions - The main pandemic support gang waited 6 jumps out - The pandemic gang alone had 5 dreads and 8 carriers. I think in total we had nearly 20 caps.
This kill would not have been possible as a spur of the moment kill. You have to know exactly where a motherhip will be and what he'll be doing in order to kill it. And for that to happen the mothership pilot has to be very predictable.
Great planning to get someone who has become too arrogant Good job Karsten
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Karsten
Caldari LoneWolf Mining
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Posted - 2007.07.07 05:48:00 -
[362]
Originally by: Helen No bounce no play.
To those who killed it congrats on your kill regardless of desync it seems your entire setup would of killed it regardless. While its a shame he couldn't take a few down with him this certainly isn't Pandemic's fault its all of CCP's.
Respect for this posting
Karsten
"All your ISK belong to the Viking Brewery" |
Shamis Orzoz
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.07 06:02:00 -
[363]
Originally by: Vily 1 point i left out.
he may very well have still died.
jsut that the strength of respect deserved for the kill is not so strong
You have all my respect for being a bob ball licker.
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Mei Han
Gallente Mythos Corp RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.07 06:26:00 -
[364]
Edited by: Mei Han on 07/07/2007 06:28:18
Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
Originally by: Vily 1 point i left out.
he may very well have still died.
jsut that the strength of respect deserved for the kill is not so strong
You have all my respect for being a bob ball licker.
Quoted before *sniped*
I do not belive that less tribute to the MS killers is in order, you cant blame them cause the MS pilot did not do everything he could as to kill at least as many as he could. Exploiting enemies' mistakes still tribute to you.
Its like DDing a bunch of frigs and then loosing your titan. And i will have to agree with bob here. Espesialy with Evol. "Everyone who does not adapt dies". In our case, and since Rev2 with the newly introduced Desynk and MS nerfage you OUGHT
1.To have a second client with username and pass ready to resynk just in case. 2.Not to fly a solo MS without support (not cruisers and miners that is) nearby.
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Lister Black
Pyrrhus Sicarii Aftermath Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.07 06:36:00 -
[365]
Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
Originally by: Vily 1 point i left out.
he may very well have still died.
jsut that the strength of respect deserved for the kill is not so strong
You have all my respect for being a bob ball licker.
Shamiz, are your forums down? Can't access them for some reason :(. ---------------------------- "Unshrink you?! Well that would require some sort of a REbigulator, which is a concept so ridiculous it makes me want to laugh out loud and chortle..." -Prof.Frink |
Alice Cholmondeley
Christine.
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Posted - 2007.07.07 06:37:00 -
[366]
Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
Originally by: Vily 1 point i left out.
he may very well have still died.
jsut that the strength of respect deserved for the kill is not so strong
You have all my respect for being a bob ball licker.
You only fight people because you hate the big bad bob, you don't even mind supporting real life crimes to get to your goal. I doubt anyone is looking for your respect dear Shamis. |
Ilsea
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.07 07:05:00 -
[367]
Edited by: Ilsea on 07/07/2007 07:07:23 Also, the MS pilot here is trying to have his cake and eat it to. He is playing it fast and loose with the facts trying to have it both ways. You claim to have been desync'd (which you undoubtedly were, the game is broke right now), but when you are desynced, your client and the server aren't reconciling their states. The server has you one place under one set of variables (the ones it is actually computing your demise with) and your client has you in some other location in some other state (a location and state with no value/ an illusory situation). In that circumstance, you won't know all these specific details about the battlefield.
Because of the server-client desync issue right now, everyone is throwing the term "desync" around and it sounds like only 10% or so know what it means. It isnt mere lag. In fact, it isnt indicative of lag at all (serverside computation lag that cripples fleet battles, network latency lag, or video lag - people don't even use the term lag specifically), people desync by themselves in space and have no lag of any kind yet remain desync'd.
You won't get your ship back just like no one else killed while in a desync'd state has or will, but the game is screwed right now. There isn't even good reason to undock. CCP needs to get on this or there is no reason to keep playing. |
Farscape Hw
Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.07 07:06:00 -
[368]
Originally by: Vily
Originally by: Fry Fortune
Originally by: Vily I'll lay out some simple facts from what i can sort through.
according to the KM he had an officer Web. When you combine that with a NOS, It basically means that you can kill a dictor in under ten seconds. Doubt me? try it. Heavies will chew through the dictor before he can press the spam armor need button. 20 heavies, will literally 1 or 2 volley a webbed dictor. So Basically most of your dictors could have been fried within a very short 1-3 minute period. I know that it's very easy with a dictors only overview setting.
Secondly. Firepower. The Km has 4 dreads on it. Numbers as high as a dozen have been thrown around. actual please someone? A Mothership can transversal tank dreads EASILY if he's smart, and can smartbomb fighters like swiss cheese. You realistically need 20+ dreads to take down a non-NOS'd (cap'd out) mom. Did you have that?
anyways, it wont be re-imbursed, but I dont know how strong the actual kill is.
Ok lets work on a couple of things: Firstly: In Farscapes vid, you can tell he has a cap booster fitted onto his dictor, and that his max speed is about 7km/s or something. Officer webs, nos etc require the dictor to stay in range long enough for you to lock him, once the dictors start popping they are going to be divebombing instead of orbiting.
Secondly: Even if he had killed the dictors, any competant supercap killing force has back up dictors for the carriers to **** out, and can move the carriers in to bump anyway.
Really Vily you must be drunk or something, everyone knows why the mothership died, he was predictable enough that a trap was laid and worked. Do the same predictable things over and over, and you will die.
well, i haven't watched the video, but i will say the same. try it. dictors DIE, like flies. ESPECIALLY against an officer web.
as for backup dictors.... try it. slowboating pods getting murdered as they move 20km @ 150m/s. EVEN if you have backup dictors.
dont call me drunk. i have planned this type of **** for months and months and i am QUITE aware what it takes to pull it off
please sir, research what percentage that officer web is, and also its range. given no one had desynced, and i had no had to relog 3 times, i would still be in gang. what your not realizing is: 1. my flycatcher had 1900hp of shield 2. my flycatcher had a top speed of 13000m/s while in the gang 3. my flycatcher would still be going faster than t1 ogres that he had in cargo even webbed. 4. i had a cap booster and he had only 1 crappy named nos fitted. 5. i am farscape hw and i "suck at dieing" 6. we had enough caps to kill that mothership b4 the 2nd bubble had dropped
that mothership wasnt going anywhere even if the rest of our dictors had gotten popped. and oh yeah, i had dual bubble launchers fitted.
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Phelan Lore
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.07 07:44:00 -
[369]
Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley
Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
Originally by: Vily 1 point i left out.
he may very well have still died.
jsut that the strength of respect deserved for the kill is not so strong
You have all my respect for being a bob ball licker.
You only fight people because you hate the big bad bob, you don't even mind supporting real life crimes to get to your goal. I doubt anyone is looking for your respect dear Shamis.
Kugu's actions were not under the directive of snigg nor were they entirely known to us. At the time kugu was uncovering details of dev corruption we weren't huge fans of BoB, but we disliked most of the coalition just as much.
We began the campaign against BoB because our friend was banned for whistle blowing. -
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WildSide
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.07.07 07:46:00 -
[370]
its all just down theori Far, if u and the other 9 dictor pilots was so uberish that he couldnt kill u. With 1900hp ure sig should atleast be big enough. Its too bad he never had the chance to fight back properly...so we could have seen if he was able to kill off those dictors or not. without saying that its certain that he would have gotten out even he had the chance, but I find it as a ok chance if he playd his cards right and u failed. He had all the tools needed to take out the dictors which needed to put up bubbles under 20k of the ms. he just never had the chance , and I think a 30bill ship or whatever he putted into it atleast derserve the chance to not been decyncet.
Vids produced by me
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Farscape Hw
Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.07 08:45:00 -
[371]
Edited by: Farscape Hw on 07/07/2007 08:48:50
Originally by: WildSide its all just down theori Far, if u and the other 9 dictor pilots was so uberish that he couldnt kill u. With 1900hp ure sig should atleast be big enough. Its too bad he never had the chance to fight back properly...so we could have seen if he was able to kill off those dictors or not. without saying that its certain that he would have gotten out even he had the chance, but I find it as a ok chance if he playd his cards right and u failed. He had all the tools needed to take out the dictors which needed to put up bubbles under 20k of the ms. he just never had the chance , and I think a 30bill ship or whatever he putted into it atleast derserve the chance to not been decyncet.
i agree that it sucks he couldnt/didnt fight back more than he did. and it sucks even more that his gang didnt come in to fight us. i always love a good fight. but he really had no chance of living through that if we all hadnt lagged out. we just had way too much dps. we had waaay more capitals than showed up on the mail. most of us didnt even get to shoot him. if you notice in my movie, dissapointment relogged and still ended up near the top of the killmail. and in the time it took to drop him with what could actually lock him... i dont care what you guys say, you wernt there nor were you in gang with us. the enimies knew nothing of our fleet and i know what we had and that mothership had 0 chance of surviving it.
edit* ya know if ccp would stop with the adding new crap to the game and spend some time fixing the problems that are messing up the gameplay, we wouldnt have to argue if the kill was legit or not. ffs ccp plz pay attention here. nearly all of your customers growing impatient.
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TARREX
Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.07.07 09:54:00 -
[372]
Good job guys ... muahahahaha
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Bobby Atlas
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.07 10:18:00 -
[373]
Grats, very nice kill folks.
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F90OEX
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Posted - 2007.07.07 10:57:00 -
[374]
Interesting,
This is the guy who pvped solo in his Wyvern in a 0.4 system not too long ago with a punisher (johnny homes) to cyno him out.
The guy was chasing a drake in his MS
Does not surprise me tbh.......
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DeeJunky
Gallente Bio-Logik Tribe FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2007.07.07 12:05:00 -
[375]
No fraps during combat ? would be so nice
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Pociomundo
Gallente World Order The Imperial Order
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Posted - 2007.07.07 12:19:00 -
[376]
Originally by: Farscape Hw
4. i had a cap booster and he had only 1 crappy named nos fitted.
He had 2 NOS, the one you looted and the one on the killmail.
Try fitting your own Caldari capital ship before you start saying "crappy fittings" and realise the CPU problems they all suffer?
To the poster above, yes there is a vid about but its very poor quality and contains some pretty childish smack.
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band0fdevs
Gallente Band of Dev's
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Posted - 2007.07.07 12:30:00 -
[377]
moving along
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Stamm
Amarr Three Holdings Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.07.07 12:35:00 -
[378]
Worth pointing out I think that in order to lose motherships, you have to get motherships, getting motherships is no mean feat and it shows the strength of STK.
I remember when Helen lost his mothership to MC/0utbreak/Fatal, I was all "petition it man! hax0rs n stuff!" and Helen was very dignified about his loss.
I'll need to catch up Sku1ly and Helen and find out why you switched sides... when I took my break and stepped down it did seem as if everything was going the right way.... guess I didn't do as good a job as I had thought.
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Karsten
Caldari LoneWolf Mining
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Posted - 2007.07.07 14:14:00 -
[379]
Originally by: Farscape Hw
edit* ya know if ccp would stop with the adding new crap to the game and spend some time fixing the problems that are messing up the gameplay, we wouldnt have to argue if the kill was legit or not. ffs ccp plz pay attention here. nearly all of your customers growing impatient.
I think this is the most important point. Karsten
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Shamis Orzoz
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.07 15:29:00 -
[380]
Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley You only fight people because you hate the big bad bob, you don't even mind supporting real life crimes to get to your goal. I doubt anyone is looking for your respect dear Shamis.
I also have a lot of respect for bobbits that hide behind alts.
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Superbus Maximus
Gallente Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.07 15:36:00 -
[381]
Wow nice to see so many people hate us... Its what we strive for, but tbh we never wanted anyones respect except for those whom we play with.
Originally by: Lister Black
Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
Originally by: Vily 1 point i left out.
he may very well have still died.
jsut that the strength of respect deserved for the kill is not so strong
You have all my respect for being a bob ball licker.
Shamiz, are your forums down? Can't access them for some reason :(.
Your access obviously sucks or you would have known about your friends planned demise, but thanks for tipping us off
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Tinge Shade
Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.07 15:53:00 -
[382]
Lets face the facts...
1) 12 ships end up on the killmail, only four of our caps. There were many more caps there. Hell, look at the KM a Deimos ends up on the KM.
2) There were five times as many other ships that could have been firing on the Mom. That's a whole lot more DPS.
3) Say the pilot didn't desync worse than he did (I say worse cause he fighters/drones were out and attacking ships). He might have taken down 3-4 other ships. The DPS was just too great for him to do any more.
4) Say he did manage to kill 75% of the dictors there, until he can kill the very last one he can't get away. If he's focusing on the dictors he'd not doing anything about the DPS. If he focuses on lessening the DPS he's not getting out of the bubbles.
5) The claim that the pilot wouldn't log to fix a desync. Pointless. If you had 0 control of your ship, and you were in a bubble then relogging to fix the error wouldn't have been "dishonorable" since after all you weren't going anywhere you were in the bubble. Sure, you might have lost control of the fighters you had out, but given you had thousands of drones in your bay and the contention is its the dictors that were the problem you could have poped the dictors and gotten away.
6) Clearly a case of chest beating. The pilot was saying "I have a MOM and you don't so I'm going to gate camp with it, with a small support fleet and nobody has the sac to come fight me" Well, you put a juicy tasty target out in space and Snigg will come take a bite.
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lles
Roving Guns Inc. RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.07 15:59:00 -
[383]
Edited by: lles on 07/07/2007 15:59:42
Originally by: DeeJunky No fraps during combat ? would be so nice
Fraps, you cannot see the MS go down when targeted, but by the end you see half shield, but it was almost down by then. Desyncing didnt update it.
Still pretty nice to see this Fraps, dunno who made it, but nice job...
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Farscape Hw
Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.07 16:47:00 -
[384]
Originally by: lles Edited by: lles on 07/07/2007 15:59:42
Originally by: DeeJunky No fraps during combat ? would be so nice
Fraps, you cannot see the MS go down when targeted, but by the end you see half shield, but it was almost down by then. Desyncing didnt update it.
Still pretty nice to see this Fraps, dunno who made it, but nice job...
fraps with music and 'smack' and stuff
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Nytemaster
Mega-Deth Phoenix Supremacy
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Posted - 2007.07.07 20:11:00 -
[385]
Good job as usual Shamis.
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Ariel Dawn
Beets and Gravy Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.07.07 20:16:00 -
[386]
Originally by: gimmemoneyhoney what surived? (whats to know whats its fitting was)
Also want to know this, hope you guys got some nice stuff.
Even if the mothership was 100% perfectly fine regarding sync issues, assuming that both sides were fine then the interdictors would have had many capital remote repair modules supporting them. Judging from whats written here, it was dead as soon at it entered warp.
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Vashi Dokumentu
The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2007.07.08 02:44:00 -
[387]
Originally by: Shamis Orzoz Edited by: Shamis Orzoz on 06/07/2007 06:27:09 Today at approximately 04:30, Davlin Lotze, of M. Pire lost his Wyvern in LXWN-W.
Ernest and I planned the attack for several days, and it went off without a hitch..apart from the desynch's.
Thanks to Razor and all the Pandemic legion guy that came out.
Shamis
P.S. CCP thanks for all the de-sync's...
Sry i`m late, my congrats, i know how it feeeeeeeellllllzzzzzzz ;-)
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WETRAIN
Minmatar R.U.S.T. Phalanx Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.08 04:31:00 -
[388]
Props Shamis and Ernest 2 ******* badboys working toghther for world peace `es
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Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.07.08 06:24:00 -
[389]
Edited by: Dark Shikari on 08/07/2007 06:24:06 What's unfortunate about all this desyncing is that its basically going to relegate motherships to sit at POSs delegating fighters.
People should be rewarded for risking their expensive ships, not desynced at the start of a battle.
If CCP doesn't deal with this soon there aren't going to be many alliances left to take part in any battles at all.
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PCaBoo
Dirt Nap Squad FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.08 06:32:00 -
[390]
Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 08/07/2007 06:24:06 What's unfortunate about all this desyncing is that its basically going to relegate motherships to sit at POSs delegating fighters.
People should be rewarded for risking their expensive ships, not desynced at the start of a battle.
If CCP doesn't deal with this soon there aren't going to be many alliances left to take part in any battles at all.
sure there will, but they'll be flying t1 frigs/ibii
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scabbsssjr
Gallente M'8'S Frontal Impact
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Posted - 2007.07.08 06:43:00 -
[391]
Originally by: Ilsea Edited by: Ilsea on 07/07/2007 07:07:23 Also, the MS pilot here is trying to have his cake and eat it to. He is playing it fast and loose with the facts trying to have it both ways. You claim to have been desync'd (which you undoubtedly were, the game is broke right now), but when you are desynced, your client and the server aren't reconciling their states. The server has you one place under one set of variables (the ones it is actually computing your demise with) and your client has you in some other location in some other state (a location and state with no value/ an illusory situation). In that circumstance, you won't know all these specific details about the battlefield.
Because of the server-client desync issue right now, everyone is throwing the term "desync" around and it sounds like only 10% or so know what it means. It isnt mere lag. In fact, it isnt indicative of lag at all (serverside computation lag that cripples fleet battles, network latency lag, or video lag - people don't even use the term lag specifically), people desync by themselves in space and have no lag of any kind yet remain desync'd.
You won't get your ship back just like no one else killed while in a desync'd state has or will, but the game is screwed right now. There isn't even good reason to undock. CCP needs to get on this or there is no reason to keep playing.
Goon post that makes 100% without any bull. No smack or nothing at all in this post. I am amazed to the point I have to reply.
BTW we lost a small gang earlier to desync in 12 to 20ish fight (we were 12). They jumped on us and we all appeared to be serving them and than the real event appeared, half in pods, half attempting to run. Even small fun gangs get desync, thats when you know theirs a major problem. ---------------------------
Originally by: Ductoris At this rate I'm going to ask for a BOB sub-forum.
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Kristoffer
Amarr Blackguard Brigade
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Posted - 2007.07.08 17:05:00 -
[392]
Originally by: scabbsssjr
Goon post that makes 100% without any bull. No smack or nothing at all in this post. I am amazed to the point I have to reply.
BTW we lost a small gang earlier to desync in 12 to 20ish fight (we were 12). They jumped on us and we all appeared to be serving them and than the real event appeared, half in pods, half attempting to run. Even small fun gangs get desync, thats when you know theirs a major problem.
This is so true. Out of five less than twenty engagements i've been a part of in the last four days, four of them have desynched. I've had reports of my megathron being in three different places and doing three different things on my corpm8s screens. I've had numerous corpm8s loose ships because they are told they are 50% armor and they suddenly loose control of their ships. Its honestly a major problem.
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Namingway
Important Yet Underrated Video Game Characters
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Posted - 2007.07.08 17:16:00 -
[393]
Originally by: Phelan Lore We began the campaign against BoB because our friend was banned for whistle blowing.
Your friend 'blew the whistle' only after his attempts of blackmail and extortion failed.
But hey, nice choice of friends...
Originally by: CCP kieron If a member of the EVE community finds he or she cannot accept our current level of transparency, we bid you good luck in finding a company that meets your needs.
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Namingway
Important Yet Underrated Video Game Characters
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Posted - 2007.07.08 17:20:00 -
[394]
Originally by: Stamm Worth pointing out I think that in order to lose motherships, you have to get motherships, getting motherships is no mean feat and it shows the strength of STK.
In Davlin's case, all he had to do was keep producing the BPO he won in the T2 lotto.
Man that must be hard work.
Originally by: CCP kieron If a member of the EVE community finds he or she cannot accept our current level of transparency, we bid you good luck in finding a company that meets your needs.
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BOBHOPE
Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.13 09:22:00 -
[395]
damn you guys!
i'm sunning me sen in Zante and you kick a mom in
id of given up my whole holiday to be on that lol
good job to all of ya anyways, cya next friday.
/me waves
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Lowa
Gallente North Star Networks Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.07.13 10:44:00 -
[396]
Originally by: PCaBoo
Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 08/07/2007 06:24:06 What's unfortunate about all this desyncing is that its basically going to relegate motherships to sit at POSs delegating fighters.
People should be rewarded for risking their expensive ships, not desynced at the start of a battle.
If CCP doesn't deal with this soon there aren't going to be many alliances left to take part in any battles at all.
sure there will, but they'll be flying t1 frigs/ibii
Honestly, sometimes I really wish that would happen. 100 vs 100 frigs, it would be awesome!
/Lowa ps. No T1/Goons jokes now please!
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Illiya
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.13 11:38:00 -
[397]
Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley
You only fight people because you hate the big bad bob, you don't even mind supporting real life crimes to get to your goal. I doubt anyone is looking for your respect dear Shamis.
im sorry, but who are you to talk about anyone's reasons for doing anything? you're a bob troll alt, at least 99% of the people in this thread have the cajones to step up and post on their mains. until you can do that, i dont think you've got any leeway to say a single word to anyone about anything in eve. *snip* Please do not troll with your signature. Read the Forum Rules -Eldo Davip([email protected]) |
Illiya
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.13 11:41:00 -
[398]
Originally by: Lowa
Originally by: PCaBoo
Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 08/07/2007 06:24:06 What's unfortunate about all this desyncing is that its basically going to relegate motherships to sit at POSs delegating fighters.
People should be rewarded for risking their expensive ships, not desynced at the start of a battle.
If CCP doesn't deal with this soon there aren't going to be many alliances left to take part in any battles at all.
sure there will, but they'll be flying t1 frigs/ibii
Honestly, sometimes I really wish that would happen. 100 vs 100 frigs, it would be awesome!
/Lowa ps. No T1/Goons jokes now please!
Honestly, that could probably be arranged. I know a lot of goon pilots would love to have a massive frig furball, and if its with MC pilots so be it. What do you say MC? 25v25, 50v50, 100v100 t1 frigs with t1 weaps only. no faction ammo, no faction weapons, just a good old fashioned frig furball some day when your friends in bob aren't trying to siege us. Would probably be quite a blast. *snip* Please do not troll with your signature. Read the Forum Rules -Eldo Davip([email protected]) |
Ozstar
Naughty 40 Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.07.13 12:53:00 -
[399]
Edited by: Ozstar on 13/07/2007 12:52:58
Originally by: Davlin Lotze The petition has been submitted.
Couldnt help but think of this song ---
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Splagada
Minmatar Tides of Silence Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.13 12:54:00 -
[400]
Originally by: Ozstar Edited by: Ozstar on 13/07/2007 12:52:58
Originally by: Davlin Lotze The petition has been submitted.
Couldnt help but think of this song
WTF ------
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Vahl
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.13 17:34:00 -
[401]
Originally by: Illiya
Honestly, that could probably be arranged. I know a lot of goon pilots would love to have a massive frig furball, and if its with MC pilots so be it. What do you say MC? 25v25, 50v50, 100v100 t1 frigs with t1 weaps only. no faction ammo, no faction weapons, just a good old fashioned frig furball some day when your friends in bob aren't trying to siege us. Would probably be quite a blast.
IBIS WAR!
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Milano II
Vengeance of the Fallen Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.13 23:38:00 -
[402]
Originally by: Shamis Orzoz Edited by: Shamis Orzoz on 06/07/2007 06:27:09 Today at approximately 04:30, Davlin Lotze, of M. Pire lost his Wyvern in LXWN-W.
Ernest and I planned the attack for several days, and it went off without a hitch..apart from the desynch's.
Thanks to Razor and all the Pandemic legion guy that came out.
Shamis
P.S. CCP thanks for all the de-sync's...
Congrats to Snigg on behalf of CA.
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ZaKma
Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.07.14 00:29:00 -
[403]
Originally by: Illiya
Originally by: Lowa
Originally by: PCaBoo
Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 08/07/2007 06:24:06 What's unfortunate about all this desyncing is that its basically going to relegate motherships to sit at POSs delegating fighters.
People should be rewarded for risking their expensive ships, not desynced at the start of a battle.
If CCP doesn't deal with this soon there aren't going to be many alliances left to take part in any battles at all.
sure there will, but they'll be flying t1 frigs/ibii
Honestly, sometimes I really wish that would happen. 100 vs 100 frigs, it would be awesome!
/Lowa ps. No T1/Goons jokes now please!
Honestly, that could probably be arranged. I know a lot of goon pilots would love to have a massive frig furball, and if its with MC pilots so be it. What do you say MC? 25v25, 50v50, 100v100 t1 frigs with t1 weaps only. no faction ammo, no faction weapons, just a good old fashioned frig furball some day when your friends in bob aren't trying to siege us. Would probably be quite a blast.
Because we all know how much Goons honor such 'arranged' fights, yeah?
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Krimzin Kane
Ganja Labs Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.14 01:00:00 -
[404]
Originally by: ZaKma
Originally by: Illiya
Originally by: Lowa
Originally by: PCaBoo
Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 08/07/2007 06:24:06 What's unfortunate about all this desyncing is that its basically going to relegate motherships to sit at POSs delegating fighters.
People should be rewarded for risking their expensive ships, not desynced at the start of a battle.
If CCP doesn't deal with this soon there aren't going to be many alliances left to take part in any battles at all.
sure there will, but they'll be flying t1 frigs/ibii
Honestly, sometimes I really wish that would happen. 100 vs 100 frigs, it would be awesome!
/Lowa ps. No T1/Goons jokes now please!
Honestly, that could probably be arranged. I know a lot of goon pilots would love to have a massive frig furball, and if its with MC pilots so be it. What do you say MC? 25v25, 50v50, 100v100 t1 frigs with t1 weaps only. no faction ammo, no faction weapons, just a good old fashioned frig furball some day when your friends in bob aren't trying to siege us. Would probably be quite a blast.
Because we all know how much Goons honor such 'arranged' fights, yeah?
Somehow your sarcasm just doesn't work here.
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Kagura Nikon
Minmatar Guardians of the Dawn Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.07.14 01:10:00 -
[405]
Originally by: ZaKma
Originally by: Illiya
Originally by: Lowa
Originally by: PCaBoo
Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 08/07/2007 06:24:06 What's unfortunate about all this desyncing is that its basically going to relegate motherships to sit at POSs delegating fighters.
People should be rewarded for risking their expensive ships, not desynced at the start of a battle.
If CCP doesn't deal with this soon there aren't going to be many alliances left to take part in any battles at all.
sure there will, but they'll be flying t1 frigs/ibii
Honestly, sometimes I really wish that would happen. 100 vs 100 frigs, it would be awesome!
/Lowa ps. No T1/Goons jokes now please!
Honestly, that could probably be arranged. I know a lot of goon pilots would love to have a massive frig furball, and if its with MC pilots so be it. What do you say MC? 25v25, 50v50, 100v100 t1 frigs with t1 weaps only. no faction ammo, no faction weapons, just a good old fashioned frig furball some day when your friends in bob aren't trying to siege us. Would probably be quite a blast.
Because we all know how much Goons honor such 'arranged' fights, yeah?
and people still ahve the courage to say goons are the smacktalkers? What a shame....
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Illiya
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.14 09:26:00 -
[406]
Originally by: ZaKma
Originally by: Illiya
Originally by: Lowa
Originally by: PCaBoo
Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 08/07/2007 06:24:06 What's unfortunate about all this desyncing is that its basically going to relegate motherships to sit at POSs delegating fighters.
People should be rewarded for risking their expensive ships, not desynced at the start of a battle.
If CCP doesn't deal with this soon there aren't going to be many alliances left to take part in any battles at all.
sure there will, but they'll be flying t1 frigs/ibii
Honestly, sometimes I really wish that would happen. 100 vs 100 frigs, it would be awesome!
/Lowa ps. No T1/Goons jokes now please!
Honestly, that could probably be arranged. I know a lot of goon pilots would love to have a massive frig furball, and if its with MC pilots so be it. What do you say MC? 25v25, 50v50, 100v100 t1 frigs with t1 weaps only. no faction ammo, no faction weapons, just a good old fashioned frig furball some day when your friends in bob aren't trying to siege us. Would probably be quite a blast.
Because we all know how much Goons honor such 'arranged' fights, yeah?
i have no doubt in my mind that if it happened we'd find mc wrecks full of t2 and faction fittings, but you know, you guys have so much more "e-honor" than we do. *snip* Please do not troll with your signature. Read the Forum Rules -Eldo Davip([email protected]) |
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