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Ryo Jang Central Defiance	Posted - 2007.07.06 22:35:00 - [331] i wish people wouldnt arrange so many number of pilots that it lags everyone out, and then claim a kill as a supreme display of skill, its just not.
Superbus Maximus Gallente Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.07.06 22:41:00 - [332] Edited by: Superbus Maximus on 06/07/2007 22:40:46 Originally by: Ryo Jang i wish people wouldnt arrange so many number of pilots that it lags everyone out, and then claim a kill as a supreme display of skill, its just not. It takes a blob to kill a super cap, and it took a lot of skill and effort to properly plan and execute this kind of kill. If you had ever attempted and succeed in killing one you would know.
Dramaticus GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.06 22:43:00 - [333] Originally by: Ryo Jang i wish people wouldnt arrange so many number of pilots that it lags everyone out, and then claim a kill as a supreme display of skill, its just not. Really. We should have jousting contests. Your signature was inappropriate, email [email protected] to find out why (don't forget to include a link to it) -Sahwoolo
Malcore Trisus Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.07.06 22:45:00 - [334] Originally by: Ryo Jang i wish people wouldnt arrange so many number of pilots that it lags everyone out, and then claim a kill as a supreme display of skill, its just not. So, we shouldnt have brought 80 people for a supercap kill? Next it will be "Oh noes! Snigg crashed the node w/ their 10 man ceptor gang! H4X!"
Shirei Minmatar Cutting Edge Incorporated	Posted - 2007.07.06 22:53:00 - [335] Originally by: Ryo Jang i wish people wouldnt arrange so many number of pilots that it lags everyone out, and then claim a kill as a supreme display of skill, its just not. The way the game is developing is towards large battles over expensive single targets at specific times (POS coming out of reinforced, sov 2/3 timers becoming active, supercaps). Inevitably, since the targets get ever larger, harder to kill and more expensive, people are forced to bring more and more people to successfully take them on. Blaming people for bringing blobs when bringing small gangs would simply either take an insanely long time to accomplish the same or simply not work is a bit silly.
Divine Beauty North Eastern Swat	Posted - 2007.07.06 23:18:00 - [336] seriousley take the loss as it is and dont go whining this much, the accusations about loggin are just rubbish. The only support you get from that will be from fatal or any other alliance that got their ass handed to them by snigg. Sorry for your loss davlin but now stop being a child about it Good job to snigg whether desynch, uber lagg or whatever. Stop sucking CCP fix the damn bugs instead of adding **** to the game we dont need. And those alliances that got their asses kicked by snigg...grow up fight back stop whining. Jeeeeez the forum drama.. /me starts training forumwhoring skillz
PCaBoo Dirt Nap Squad FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.06 23:34:00 - [337] Wow. Trollathon. I've flown with davlin in IO. I must say, he's pretty good with protecting the Wyvern. He's been flying it on the frontlines for quite some time and has never been afraid of engaging anyone. I find it hard to believe that he would go down so 'easily' to the group. I've also never known him to lie about anything. He may embellish the story a little for effect, but a liar he is not. I hope somehow you get the mom back, but if you don't, it was a heck of a run. ________________________________ Caldari's are the Chosen people!
Lsf XXi Merch Industrial We Are Nice Guys	Posted - 2007.07.06 23:40:00 - [338] I must say, he's pretty good with protecting the Wyvern. He's been flying it on the frontlines for quite some time and has never been afraid of engaging anyone These two things don't go together post rev 2 patch. Quote: Lady Gadiva > lets hide our numbers and be ***
Flinx Evenstar Minmatar Spartan Industries Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2007.07.06 23:41:00 - [339] Originally by: PCaBoo He may embellish the story a little for effect, but a liar he is not. I hope somehow you get the mom back, but if you don't, it was a heck of a run. Ok, so he embellished the truth a little, but he did not go down "easy". There was **** loads of capitals on him. No MS can tank that crowd. The guy fought back as well as anyone could, he even managed to get some kills as he died. Sorry for your loss Davlin, but it was a genuine kill xxx I, erm, like kill things and stuff
Ander Gallente Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.07.07 00:32:00 - [340] Originally by: Akov Stohs Just a note, a support fleet did show up, well with in time to make a difference. Not saying that we would of saved the mom, but I am willing to say at least there would of been a fight. You probably would of lost most/all of your dictors, but because of the desync the mom would probably never made it out even if we did clear all of the dictors off. shrug Yall got an near effortless kill because of the servers. It was a good trap but far from full proof. Your support fleet showed up when the mothership was already way past half armor. Most of your guys were still by the station according to our intel during most of the fight. It wasn't until at the end when you jumped in with a couple of cruiser-sized ships. Warning, speculation based on numbers: Though your gang would probably not have been able to take out 10 dictors before being popped by the sizable support fleet of ours had you jumped into the fight earlier. EVE PIRATE ANDER! now posting in "orange"
Altai Saker Omniscient Order	Posted - 2007.07.07 00:41:00 - [341] Should have stuck to lowsec with this mom http://www.omniscient-order.com/ Sahwoolo Etoophie is a noob!
mamolian M. Corp M. PIRE	Posted - 2007.07.07 00:57:00 - [342] Originally by: Helen Originally by: SolApathy ps what was the second STK mom loss? just wondering. 2nd Aeon was cooking in ze oven when it got cancelled by a corp theif. Thats just mean! As for the Mommy loss, Davlin might of gotten away with it before the recent patch.. Grats to Pandemic/Razor, Nice kill for you guys. For the smackstars in this thread.. seriously.. **** off muppets. -------------------------------
Namingway Important Yet Underrated Video Game Characters	Posted - 2007.07.07 01:06:00 - [343] Originally by: Davlin Lotze Complete desynch from the *start. I wasn't able to launch a single drone the entire fight. The petition has been submitted. I hope it gets rejected, far too many people petition and cry and get back ships they would have lost even with 0 lag. Originally by:* CCP kieron If a member of the EVE community finds he or she cannot accept our current level of transparency, we bid you good luck in finding a company that meets your needs.
Namingway Important Yet Underrated Video Game Characters	Posted - 2007.07.07 01:26:00 - [344] Originally by: Stahlregen Originally by: Davlin Lotze Complete desynch from the *start. I wasn't able to launch a single drone the entire fight. The petition has been submitted. Ask Shrike how well that went. Lets be hnest now, if Shrike had gotten a reimb there would have been a threadnaught. Originally by:* CCP kieron If a member of the EVE community finds he or she cannot accept our current level of transparency, we bid you good luck in finding a company that meets your needs.
Namingway Important Yet Underrated Video Game Characters	Posted - 2007.07.07 01:36:00 - [345] Originally by: Randay Originally by: Superbus Maximus Originally by: Randay so what is eve at now for momships? 6? 7? As in killed or left alive? I believe that was the first Wyvern to be killed and the 4th MoM to be killed maybe 5th. Left I alive I have no Idea. killed ofc, nobody celebrates thier births, only deaths. theres probably like over 40+ alive anyway. I think this is also STKs second mom loss. i pity thier capital construction dude. Davlin is independently wealthy (I believe he has a cerb BPO) and bought that MoM before he was in M. Pire. Originally by: CCP kieron If a member of the EVE community finds he or she cannot accept our current level of transparency, we bid you good luck in finding a company that meets your needs.
Namingway Important Yet Underrated Video Game Characters	Posted - 2007.07.07 01:41:00 - [346] Originally by: KillmAll187 Edited by: KillmAll187 on 06/07/2007 09:02:45 Originally by: Ohne Originally by: SATAN Edited by: SATAN on 06/07/2007 05:38:53 Congrats guys, Do you think he would have been done for if he had control of the ship? Please give us a step by step of the encounter. For my part, If we wouldnt have desynced, he would have died in about 1 to 2 mins max. Instead he was alive and kicking for at least 5-6 mins and therefore crawled off about 20 kms before he died. (had like 7-8 bubbles in his way though) The desync made him live longer if anything. You are mad. Look at the Helen Aeon killmail. You fleet had 4 dreads? PFFFF. I was in a helios the whole time. Switched to Dictor overview and counted 6 with 1 dictor wreck-so that makes 7. No way only 7 interdictors can keep the mothership there, ya know, if the game works. I know this is about EPEEN waving and all that, but you guys have to admit the kill is sort of tainted. Edit to counter your edits: Well, allow me to retort. You may have had 10, but only 6 were on the grid. Maybe other 3 warped? The point I'm trying to make is all he has to do is get them to warp and then he can warp to a POS when the bubbles drop. I admit there was a crapton of them up. Bubbles ontop of bubbles. 20 Warrior IIs do mean things to interdictors, however. In conclusion, gj on the kill. It clearly took lots of planning to execute. Carriers, especially with Triage, do mean things to Dictor tanking abilities. Plus an anti-drone ship or two > 20 warrior IIs. Eagle for 200km drone defense ftw imo. Originally by: CCP kieron If a member of the EVE community finds he or she cannot accept our current level of transparency, we bid you good luck in finding a company that meets your needs.
Necro EvilZombie North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.07.07 01:47:00 - [347] HOLY QUADRUPLE POST BATMAN!
Namingway Important Yet Underrated Video Game Characters	Posted - 2007.07.07 02:11:00 - [348] Originally by: Davlin Lotze Originally by: Shamis Orzoz Originally by: Davlin Lotze 6) What saved snigg et al was their willingness to log out in combat and log back in to save their objective from failing. I never log in combat. I guess that's one difference between attackers and myself. Perhaps CCP can send some signals whether premeditated logging in and out from combat is acceptable or not. I think it shows weak character but I'm old and very old fashioned in that way :) Any snigg pilot that logs in combat to save his ship gets booted from the corp. There's a big difference between logging to save your ship, and relogging because you are desynced. There's a difference between being old fashioned and being stupid. You gonna start booting with yourself Shamiz? How many admissions of logging out do we have here? And there's no difference tbh....you left the game to avoid a loss. Are you whining that they relogged due to the clinet desyncs and you didn't relog to fix them? I don't think you know what a 'logoff' in PvP is Davlin. Originally by: CCP kieron If a member of the EVE community finds he or she cannot accept our current level of transparency, we bid you good luck in finding a company that meets your needs.
Namingway Important Yet Underrated Video Game Characters	Posted - 2007.07.07 02:15:00 - [349] Originally by: Davlin Lotze Originally by: Shamis Orzoz Originally by: Davlin Lotze You gonna start booting with yourself Shamiz? How many admissions of logging out do we have here? And there's no difference tbh....you left the game to avoid a loss. Yes, truely ethical eve players all sit there and look at their frozen screen when they fight. Funny, the server dealt you a Wyvern loss, but you've petitioned it. Whatever the servers deal out, you take it. Or you log. I guess we know who chose what course of action. Originally by: CCP kieron If a member of the EVE community finds he or she cannot accept our current level of transparency, we bid you good luck in finding a company that meets your needs.
PCaBoo Dirt Nap Squad FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.07 03:08:00 - [350] Originally by: Lsf XXi I must say, he's pretty good with protecting the Wyvern. He's been flying it on the frontlines for quite some time and has never been afraid of engaging anyone These two things don't go together post rev 2 patch. If you're not going to use it, why bother building it? 20+ Mining Drones 4tw? ________________________________ Caldari's are the Chosen people!
PCaBoo Dirt Nap Squad FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.07 03:14:00 - [351] Originally by: Flinx Evenstar Originally by: PCaBoo He may embellish the story a little for effect, but a liar he is not. I hope somehow you get the mom back, but if you don't, it was a heck of a run. Ok, so he embellished the truth a little, but he did not go down "easy". There was **** loads of capitals on him. No MS can tank that crowd. The guy fought back as well as anyone could, he even managed to get some kills as he died. Sorry for your loss Davlin, but it was a genuine kill xxx I wasn't there. I don't know. If there was a clearer picture painted, maybe I could make a better statement. But afaik (from my personal experience flying with the guy), his loss sounds kind of lame. I'm not saying that to try and take anything away from the effort put in to get the kill... it's just anti-climactic to hear. ________________________________ Caldari's are the Chosen people!
Vily Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.07.07 03:44:00 - [352] I'll lay out some simple facts from what i can sort through. according to the KM he had an officer Web. When you combine that with a NOS, It basically means that you can kill a dictor in under ten seconds. Doubt me? try it. Heavies will chew through the dictor before he can press the spam armor need button. 20 heavies, will literally 1 or 2 volley a webbed dictor. So Basically most of your dictors could have been fried within a very short 1-3 minute period. I know that it's very easy with a dictors only overview setting. Secondly. Firepower. The Km has 4 dreads on it. Numbers as high as a dozen have been thrown around. actual please someone? A Mothership can transversal tank dreads EASILY if he's smart, and can smartbomb fighters like swiss cheese. You realistically need 20+ dreads to take down a non-NOS'd (cap'd out) mom. Did you have that? anyways, it wont be re-imbursed, but I dont know how strong the actual kill is. -
Fry Fortune Ultrapolite Socialites GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.07 03:53:00 - [353] Originally by: Vily I'll lay out some simple facts from what i can sort through. according to the KM he had an officer Web. When you combine that with a NOS, It basically means that you can kill a dictor in under ten seconds. Doubt me? try it. Heavies will chew through the dictor before he can press the spam armor need button. 20 heavies, will literally 1 or 2 volley a webbed dictor. So Basically most of your dictors could have been fried within a very short 1-3 minute period. I know that it's very easy with a dictors only overview setting. Secondly. Firepower. The Km has 4 dreads on it. Numbers as high as a dozen have been thrown around. actual please someone? A Mothership can transversal tank dreads EASILY if he's smart, and can smartbomb fighters like swiss cheese. You realistically need 20+ dreads to take down a non-NOS'd (cap'd out) mom. Did you have that? anyways, it wont be re-imbursed, but I dont know how strong the actual kill is. Ok lets work on a couple of things: Firstly: In Farscapes vid, you can tell he has a cap booster fitted onto his dictor, and that his max speed is about 7km/s or something. Officer webs, nos etc require the dictor to stay in range long enough for you to lock him, once the dictors start popping they are going to be divebombing instead of orbiting. Secondly: Even if he had killed the dictors, any competant supercap killing force has back up dictors for the carriers to **** out, and can move the carriers in to bump anyway. Really Vily you must be drunk or something, everyone knows why the mothership died, he was predictable enough that a trap was laid and worked. Do the same predictable things over and over, and you will die.
Vily Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.07.07 04:04:00 - [354] Originally by: Fry Fortune Originally by: Vily I'll lay out some simple facts from what i can sort through. according to the KM he had an officer Web. When you combine that with a NOS, It basically means that you can kill a dictor in under ten seconds. Doubt me? try it. Heavies will chew through the dictor before he can press the spam armor need button. 20 heavies, will literally 1 or 2 volley a webbed dictor. So Basically most of your dictors could have been fried within a very short 1-3 minute period. I know that it's very easy with a dictors only overview setting. Secondly. Firepower. The Km has 4 dreads on it. Numbers as high as a dozen have been thrown around. actual please someone? A Mothership can transversal tank dreads EASILY if he's smart, and can smartbomb fighters like swiss cheese. You realistically need 20+ dreads to take down a non-NOS'd (cap'd out) mom. Did you have that? anyways, it wont be re-imbursed, but I dont know how strong the actual kill is. Ok lets work on a couple of things: Firstly: In Farscapes vid, you can tell he has a cap booster fitted onto his dictor, and that his max speed is about 7km/s or something. Officer webs, nos etc require the dictor to stay in range long enough for you to lock him, once the dictors start popping they are going to be divebombing instead of orbiting. Secondly: Even if he had killed the dictors, any competant supercap killing force has back up dictors for the carriers to ** out, and can move the carriers in to bump anyway. Really Vily you must be drunk or something, everyone knows why the mothership died, he was predictable enough that a trap was laid and worked. Do the same predictable things over and over, and you will die. well, i haven't watched the video, but i will say the same. try it. dictors DIE, like flies. ESPECIALLY against an officer web. as for backup dictors.... try it. slowboating pods getting murdered as they move 20km @ 150m/s. EVEN if you have backup dictors. dont call me drunk. i have planned this type of ** for months and months and i am QUITE aware what it takes to pull it off -
Kiko Goatbiter Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.07 04:04:00 - [355] I have lots of respect for someone who would never compromise their morals and beliefs to stoop to such a dastardly level of logging off.
Rania Serlia World Order The Imperial Order	Posted - 2007.07.07 04:05:00 - [356] Originally by: Fry Fortune Originally by: Vily I'll lay out some simple facts from what i can sort through. according to the KM he had an officer Web. When you combine that with a NOS, It basically means that you can kill a dictor in under ten seconds. Doubt me? try it. Heavies will chew through the dictor before he can press the spam armor need button. 20 heavies, will literally 1 or 2 volley a webbed dictor. So Basically most of your dictors could have been fried within a very short 1-3 minute period. I know that it's very easy with a dictors only overview setting. Secondly. Firepower. The Km has 4 dreads on it. Numbers as high as a dozen have been thrown around. actual please someone? A Mothership can transversal tank dreads EASILY if he's smart, and can smartbomb fighters like swiss cheese. You realistically need 20+ dreads to take down a non-NOS'd (cap'd out) mom. Did you have that? anyways, it wont be re-imbursed, but I dont know how strong the actual kill is. Ok lets work on a couple of things: Firstly: In Farscapes vid, you can tell he has a cap booster fitted onto his dictor, and that his max speed is about 7km/s or something. Officer webs, nos etc require the dictor to stay in range long enough for you to lock him, once the dictors start popping they are going to be divebombing instead of orbiting. Secondly: Even if he had killed the dictors, any competant supercap killing force has back up dictors for the carriers to **** out, and can move the carriers in to bump anyway. Really Vily you must be drunk or something, everyone knows why the mothership died, he was predictable enough that a trap was laid and worked. Do the same predictable things over and over, and you will die. Muizuiro's web is a 25km web. Wyvern has a base lockrange of 172km, and he had two best named sensor boosters fitted. Any dictor straying to within 25km should have died fairly quickly due to web+nos+dronage. Even with anti drone support, losing one fighter from your mom's bay means you can carry infinite warrior IIs. Still, well executed trap, and even though the mom claims to have been unable to fight back(and he should have been raping dictors/support left and right, the deimos first!).
Father Calistas Antipodean inc. Sparta Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.07 04:05:00 - [357] Good fight. These days, if you undock you have to be prepared to lose your ship to a de-synch. Using a carrier to scare people off a gate (Ketch, you crazy Spartan you!) or a Mothership, could result in losing your ship. Well played Snigg! SirMolle - *** Bar Video!
Vily Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.07.07 04:08:00 - [358] 1 point i left out. he may very well have still died. jsut that the strength of respect deserved for the kill is not so strong -
mazzilliu Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.07.07 04:09:00 - [359] gonna post before the trolls take down this thread as hard as that guy's mothership good job guys \o/ wish i could have been there. was stuck somewhere else IRL :(((
PCaBoo Dirt Nap Squad FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.07 04:43:00 - [360] Originally by: mazzilliu IRL :((( IRL's overrated! ________________________________ Caldari's are the Chosen people!

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