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Solusar Amarr Auctoritan Syndicate Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.14 19:56:00 - [121] Originally by: Hardin Originally by: Lilan Kahn This thread needs more me Very true I will enjoy debating these issues with BD on Saturday at the London **** up /emote goes out to buy bullet proof vest We don't just blob in eve, we have butter's nicely blobbed at the London meet as well
Lilan Kahn Amarr The Littlest Hobos Betrayal Under Mayhem	Posted - 2007.08.14 20:04:00 - [122] Originally by: Solusar Originally by: Hardin Originally by: Lilan Kahn This thread needs more me Very true I will enjoy debating these issues with BD on Saturday at the London **** up /emote goes out to buy bullet proof vest We don't just blob in eve, we have butter's nicely blobbed at the London meet as well You wil stil be out skilled
Mynas Atoch Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.08.14 20:14:00 - [123] Originally by: Elendar You sir, got kicked from the ISS navy for being bad. Life as a pet is good, there are regular fluffles, and the punishment...mmmm Please, try not to make a prat of yourself like that wheh you really don't know what you are talking about. I know its the internet and all, but those of us who were involved in Butter Dog's Meltdown really just feel embarrassed for you.
Master OlavPancrazio Einherjar Rising	Posted - 2007.08.14 21:12:00 - [124] Did BUM just find an abandoned Thanatos in a trash bin? I heard it through the g*****vine.
Pezzle Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.14 21:15:00 - [125] If only the chicken little theorists were so loud when they get a good kick in the ribs eh? Have fun in London, would love to be there.
Butter Dog The Littlest Hobos Betrayal Under Mayhem	Posted - 2007.08.14 21:39:00 - [126] Originally by: Master OlavPancrazio Did BUM just find an abandoned Thanatos in a trash bin? I heard it through the g*****vine. I can confirm that during a routine collection round in Providence, a Thanatos was liberated from UCE. It was, remarkably, left unpiloted outside a POS shield. ----------
Master OlavPancrazio Einherjar Rising	Posted - 2007.08.14 21:47:00 - [127] Providence definitely has one of the greatest respawn rates of any region after leaving it for a month. It certainly feels like a Carrier tree after the past few days.
steamy The Littlest Hobos Betrayal Under Mayhem	Posted - 2007.08.14 22:50:00 - [128] Originally by: Master OlavPancrazio Providence definitely has one of the greatest respawn rates of any region after leaving it for a month. It certainly feels like a Carrier tree after the past few days. yup, and it's harvest season it seems. Steamy
Hickock Caldari Einherjar Rising	Posted - 2007.08.14 22:59:00 - [129] Can i post here too about our leetness? -------------- Visit http://extremepredators.com/ for more information.
James Lyrus Lyrus Associates Betrayal Under Mayhem	Posted - 2007.08.14 23:07:00 - [130] Originally by: Master OlavPancrazio Did BUM just find an abandoned Thanatos in a trash bin? I heard it through the g*****vine. I'm upset that I missed that. I just don't get that kind of luck :/
Skarvl Mandoo	Posted - 2007.08.15 02:14:00 - [131] Originally by: Mynas Atoch Originally by: Elendar You sir, got kicked from the ISS navy for being bad. Life as a pet is good, there are regular fluffles, and the punishment...mmmm Please, try not to make a prat of yourself like that wheh you really don't know what you are talking about. I know its the internet and all, but those of us who were involved in Butter Dog's Meltdown really just feel embarrassed for you. I feel sorry for anyone who considers themselves apart of Butter Dog's meltdown...
kincajou niten Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.15 07:52:00 - [132] Originally by: Mistress Suffering As for residents counting on CVA to defend them in their home turf of Misaba/R3, this seems fairly unlikely as I notice all the CVA leadership has relocated down to 9UY to put some distance between themselves as Cruel Intentions who hold court there now. Ah well, I'm sure they had your best interest in mind in doing so... There is no such thing as distance with correct sov and some cool toys after RevII ;-)
Butter Dog The Littlest Hobos Betrayal Under Mayhem	Posted - 2007.08.15 15:05:00 - [133] Originally by: kincajou niten Originally by: Mistress Suffering As for residents counting on CVA to defend them in their home turf of Misaba/R3, this seems fairly unlikely as I notice all the CVA leadership has relocated down to 9UY to put some distance between themselves as Cruel Intentions who hold court there now. Ah well, I'm sure they had your best interest in mind in doing so... There is no such thing as distance with correct sov and some cool toys after RevII ;-) Which begs the question what you are all doing in 9UY when CI are >>>>> that way ----------
Solusar Amarr Auctoritan Syndicate Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.15 15:25:00 - [134] Edited by: Solusar on 15/08/2007 15:34:08 Butters, just accept that no one here takes you seriously and never will, you do more to hurt the credibility of BUM than any amount of defeats and bad decisions ever could. If I didn't know better I would wonder how much you are getting paid for this service. I don't think thread could get more off topic if you tried, but keep going. Your nano squads that run at the first sign of trouble can be annoying at times but at the end of the day you jump into esa at the first sign of CVA ships entering y-mp. You kill lone npc'ers and people travelling without scouts, that can be said of every single low sec and 0.0 region in EVE. We are having fun fighting CI and their friends and im sure they are having fun fighting us, at the end of the day that is what matters. We fight them outnumbered and they fight us outnumbered. If you understood how fighting in eve works then maybe you would stop complaining about "blobs" and cva using other providence residents as meat shields. As for the comment that CVA only fight from long range and don't engage up close that just shows how little experience you have fighting CVA other than times that you were forced to during the sieges. But I suppose that is down to the standing orders in BUM not to engage CVA. Pulse geddons >> Tach geddons [Edit] Just to add in that in the last 2 weeks of fighting CVA and CI have done roughly 30 billion ISK worth of damage to each other. In our entire time fighting BUM the total tally of all engagements comes to 20 billion over a period of over 6 months keeping in mind that the bum kills include all the fighting in QR and 9UY even if they only had 1 or 2 people in the gangs. Considering we are hiding from CI in 9UY there seems to be an aweful lot of shooty shooty.
Lilan Kahn Amarr The Littlest Hobos Betrayal Under Mayhem	Posted - 2007.08.15 15:41:00 - [135] Originally by: Solusar Edited by: Solusar on 15/08/2007 15:34:08 Butters, just accept that no one here takes you seriously and never will, you do more to hurt the credibility of BUM than any amount of defeats and bad decisions ever could. If I didn't know better I would wonder how much you are getting paid for this service. I don't think thread could get more off topic if you tried, but keep going. Your nano squads that run at the first sign of trouble can be annoying at times but at the end of the day you jump into esa at the first sign of CVA ships entering y-mp. You kill lone npc'ers and people travelling without scouts, that can be said of every single low sec and 0.0 region in EVE. We are having fun fighting CI and their friends and im sure they are having fun fighting us, at the end of the day that is what matters. We fight them outnumbered and they fight us outnumbered. If you understood how fighting in eve works then maybe you would stop complaining about "blobs" and cva using other providence residents as meat shields. As for the comment that CVA only fight from long range and don't engage up close that just shows how little experience you have fighting CVA other than times that you were forced to during the sieges. But I suppose that is down to the standing orders in BUM not to engage CVA. Pulse geddons >> Tach geddons [Edit] Just to add in that in the last 2 weeks of fighting CVA and CI have done roughly 30 billion ISK worth of damage to each other. In our entire time fighting BUM the total tally of all engagements comes to 20 billion over a period of over 6 months keeping in mind that the bum kills include all the fighting in QR and 9UY even if they only had 1 or 2 people in the gangs. Considering we are hiding from CI in 9UY there seems to be an aweful lot of shooty shooty. We use fast ships since you kept blobing us with 5 to 1 so fast hsips was used to counter your tactic and seems it have worked at geting you rilled up
Garreck Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.15 15:51:00 - [136] Originally by: Lilan Kahn seems it have worked at geting you rilled up Ah! The standard BUM response when baseless smack is met with tangible fact. Quite simply, speed is the effective means of "safe" pvp at the moment. This makes sense: it offers a realistic option in Eve for geurilla fighting. The issue with speed, though, is that it necessitates numbers on the part of those pursuing...which is an indirect way of saying we could go in circles debating which came first: the nanos or the blob? Bottom line, though, is that CVA is actively fighting all hostile entities in Providence and any claims to the contrary will be met with facts to support our efforts. Call it "riled up" if that makes you feel better.
Lilan Kahn Amarr The Littlest Hobos Betrayal Under Mayhem	Posted - 2007.08.15 15:56:00 - [137] Originally by: Garreck Originally by: Lilan Kahn seems it have worked at geting you rilled up Ah! The standard BUM response when baseless smack is met with tangible fact. Quite simply, speed is the effective means of "safe" pvp at the moment. This makes sense: it offers a realistic option in Eve for geurilla fighting. The issue with speed, though, is that it necessitates numbers on the part of those pursuing...which is an indirect way of saying we could go in circles debating which came first: the nanos or the blob? Bottom line, though, is that CVA is actively fighting all hostile entities in Providence and any claims to the contrary will be met with facts to support our efforts. Call it "riled up" if that makes you feel better. Well so fare you have called every gang we make a nano gang so yup you are quit rilled up
steamy The Littlest Hobos Betrayal Under Mayhem	Posted - 2007.08.15 15:56:00 - [138] Originally by: Garreck Originally by: Lilan Kahn seems it have worked at geting you rilled up Ah! The standard BUM response when baseless smack is met with tangible fact. Quite simply, speed is the effective means of "safe" pvp at the moment. This makes sense: it offers a realistic option in Eve for geurilla fighting. The issue with speed, though, is that it necessitates numbers on the part of those pursuing...which is an indirect way of saying we could go in circles debating which came first: the nanos or the blob? Bottom line, though, is that CVA is actively fighting all hostile entities in Providence and any claims to the contrary will be met with facts to support our efforts. Call it "riled up" if that makes you feel better. get over it, we are not interested in CVA ;-) you have fun with CI, we have fun with some of your pets, everybody happy right? Steamy
Butter Dog The Littlest Hobos Betrayal Under Mayhem	Posted - 2007.08.15 16:00:00 - [139] Edited by: Butter Dog on 15/08/2007 16:01:52 You guys are funny. You come on here spitting fire then claim I'm the one smacking. Try reading your own posts, compare them to mine, and tell me who is smacking who here We love the fact you're so wound up about it all. We're in Providence, having lots of fun at your pet alliances expense, and there is precisely nothing CVA can do about it. Sure, you send the odd blob in our direction, which we duly avoid, and then the fun resumes. We're having a party... and CVA arent invited, sorry PS - we play EVE to have fun, not to 'be credible', whatever that means - sorry you don't understand that but hey its an internet spaceship game and we enjoy playing it Also I love the way you compare us to CI... yeah cos comparing an entity which is targetting you to someone who is not is a really valid comparison... well done ----------
Sapphrine The Littlest Hobos Betrayal Under Mayhem	Posted - 2007.08.15 16:07:00 - [140] Edited by: Sapphrine on 15/08/2007 16:11:49 I've got to ask, when exactly did we get nano carriers? or nano remote rep bs gangs? We fight with what is appropriate for the situation. Wandering around in enemy territory with a heavy slow moving gang when we know they have a tendency to blob seems a touch daft. That said, when the opportunity and use arises for a large heavy gang, thats what we use also. I'm fairly certain CVA do the same. Its common sense after all. You didn't expect us to come and just die against your blobs now did you? final edit: How much more stationary could we get than lobbing up a pos inside enemy territory as a staging post? You found the first one ok but it seems to simply be taking you ages to get near to doing the second one in :)
Butter Dog The Littlest Hobos Betrayal Under Mayhem	Posted - 2007.08.15 16:14:00 - [141] Originally by: Sapphrine You didn't expect us to come and just die against your blobs now did you? Er, yes. Thats why they sent 60 people in EX that evening, and expected us to jump our carriers on top of them. Even without the 'suprise' 7 CVA carriers in a safe pos a few jumps away, that would have been pretty suicidal. But HOW DARE YOU not order the suicide of our ships against their blobs! Its just not credible! ----------
SpaceLola	Posted - 2007.08.15 16:26:00 - [142] Originally by: Mud Pandemonium Edited by: Mud Pandemonium on 12/08/2007 20:39:37 Mud, seriously, looking at your sig, have you ever considered cosmetic facial treatment? hydratation, anti wrinckle?
Garreck Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.15 16:33:00 - [143] Originally by: Lilan Kahn Well so fare you have called every gang we make a nano gang so yup you are quit rilled up Have we? I must've missed that. You're noted for regular use of them, that's sure. Originally by: steamy get over it, we are not interested in CVA ;-) Is that why BUM have seen fit to take a thread about the policies of Providence sovereigns and turn it into a discussion about their (apparently quite strong) feelings about the CVA? Originally by: Butter Dog Try reading your own posts, compare them to mine, and tell me who is smacking who here Aww. Apologies if I've hurt your feelings, Butter Dog. Do point out specific CVA smack so we can avoid it in the future...that's not our objective here. We've well established that BUM have no interest in fighting the CVA, though I've no idea why that's so much a topic of discussion. You folks imply we don't fight and are powerless in Providence, and when evidence to the contrary is presented, it's suddenly "well, we don't even fight the CVA and don't want to fight the CVA." Fair enough...then why was the derailment necessary in the first place? The OP wanted to know about the rules of Providence. He was answered. I imagine he knew he'd get propeganda from all parties involved if he specifically asked about the safety of the area, so I imagine he'll draw his own conclusions if he decides to give it a go. If BUM want to cast judgement on CVA effectiveness, then BUM can stop harassing fledgling alliances, move into CVA space, and test CVA effectiveness.
Garreck Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.15 16:39:00 - [144] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Sapphrine You didn't expect us to come and just die against your blobs now did you? Er, yes. Thats why they sent 60 people in EX that evening, and expected us to jump our carriers on top of them. Negative. "Deterent" is just as important to the CVA as "killmail." Remember my previous comment concerning statistics vs results. Generally speaking (and there are notable exceptions) whenever a CVA gang reaches about 15 (even if that number is to match a target fleet's numbers,) we lose any expectation of any fight...but if our mere presence prevents destruction of friendly assets, then that's good enough. When we're not present, the rest is up to them of course. Sounds like you guys have been given quite a few gifts whenever we're absent, which is frustrating for us, but frankly none of our business.
Sapphrine The Littlest Hobos Betrayal Under Mayhem	Posted - 2007.08.15 16:42:00 - [145] for the last time garreck. It isnt about you being totally powerless. You have lots of ships, lots of resources, lots of space. The problem is you don't really control your space and you leave those that depend on you to a greater extent, as they threw their lot in with you, on their tod to deal with the consequences. Sylph have banded together and have had some success, Slammers and UCE are another story. Your 'power' in providence is only great if you define it in terms of Stations owned, ability to field fleets for fleet on fleet action where the enemy fight pitched battles against your might armada, or in terms of your logistics prowess. What you don't have the ability to do, is look after your space and patrol effectively to keep the pipes open for anyone not CVA. Hell even CVA freighters die occasionally! :P Your allies are losing capital ships and you are not helping. Your allies lose valuable logistics and you do nothing. They lose control of their space and are forced to withdraw (ala UCE) and you do nothing. Your allies attempt to fight where you should be fighting to protect providence from the 'pirates' and you do nothing (of note). CVA can come on here and crow all they like about the fact that they have mighty fleets but at the end of the day, you don't get to choose the terms that BUM, ENH or any other force opposing you engages on. You have the commitment to keep providence secure and therefore you are the ones that have to adapt. Don't come here bemoaning the fact that we wont stand up and fight in a straight line in front of you whilst you swarm in with BS and Capitals. Adapt and get used to the fact you have to hold the space, all we have to do is raid it :P
Garreck Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.15 16:59:00 - [146] Originally by: Sapphrine Your allies attempt to fight where you should be fighting to protect providence from the 'pirates' and you do nothing (of note). Woa...where we should be fighting? CVA offers anti-pirate services in low-sec domain and Providence, sure, and anyone who knows what those areas were like three years ago can see why we get a bit indignant when people continue to imply we're some sort of failure...however CVA should not have to fight pirates in another sovereign's space. We support our allies when asked. We're shocked at the number of times our allies take a loss and the first we hear of it is when that loss is rubbed in our face by the folks who scored the kill. And you want to see riled up? See my responses in our regional channel when I hear "Crap. I was afk in my carrier and now it's in structure." It's not our responsibility to provide patrols in space that is claimed by a friendly alliance and it's rediculous to continue to point out failures of alliances in Providence as CVA failures. We run a NRDS policy which allows people to get a first experience of 0.0, and we run regular patrols to provide maximum reasonable protection...but at the end of the day (contrary to popular belief) it is not our responsibility to prop up an alliance that just can't stand. They're not our pets, after all.
Pezzle Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.15 17:00:00 - [147] The truth is, some pirates (and others)just want attention. It makes them feel important. They will shove in their opinions and whine about anything they think will get them a reaction. Should some parties are not interested in interaction with CVA they should avoid the salty tear forum spamming and keep the action in space where it belongs. If any readers here honestly think polluting threads does anything other than reinforce their inner forum warrior and lower others opinions of them, they are sadly mistaken. Posting to score cool points? Ok, make your own thread.
Butter Fox	Posted - 2007.08.15 17:41:00 - [148] Edited by: Butter Fox on 15/08/2007 17:41:00 ooooops!
Butter Dog The Littlest Hobos Betrayal Under Mayhem	Posted - 2007.08.15 17:41:00 - [149] Well if CVA hate the forums so much they could just let us spout our 'nonsense' as you call it (some might use the phrase 'uncomfortable truth') and leave it well alone, but oh no. You wade in with plenty of baseless accusations of your own. 'You only use nano-gangs' No, we use frontline carriers, we destroy POS with dreads, we run heavy BS gangs, AND we run speed-based gangs... it all depends on what we're in the mood for, and what we expect to encounter. 'CI have destroyed more CVA ISK than you have' We're not targetting CVA, and CI are a much larger force than us, but we have a perfectly respectable performance against you nonetheless. 'You can't handle larger alliances, you make no difference in Providence' Every alliance in Providence of any note is at least twice our size. We've fought three of those alliances combined (1200 v 140) for a long time and we nearly always come out on top. We've already forced UCE to tear down their POS chains and flee to Empire. Slammers are falling to pieces. Frankly we're starting to run out of targets and our objectives are being ticked off faster than our logisitics can get us relocated to the next target. 'Butter Dog is a smacktard and talks ****, and we hate you' Can't argue with that one ----------
Butter Dog The Littlest Hobos Betrayal Under Mayhem	Posted - 2007.08.15 17:46:00 - [150] Originally by: Garreck Our responsibility is to protect our space but as multiple BUM have established...you have no interest in coming to our space. So CVA don't claim the whole of Providence then, just the bit near Misaba? ----------

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