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Ange1 Gallente The Establishment Establishment	Posted - 2007.08.24 23:33:00 - [1] Edited by: Ange1 on 24/08/2007 23:36:18 This has been a day The Establishment has long expected. It has been longer than we expected in fact, but it is true that we must regretfully report the destruction of Hera by the hands of those pesky Russians. She has been perhaps the most talked about, most feared, most respected Mothership in the entire game... not to mention one of the first to ever enter Tranquility. Love her or hate her, Hera has been and hopefully will always remain a major part of EVE History and The Establishment is honoured to have shown people the way forward with how to use these beasts. How did this sad (or good depending on your opinion of us) news come to pass you might ask? It is perhaps a case of being stabbed in the back. The Establishment has been helping Ethereal Dawn escort Freighter convoy's through 0.0. Legion of Death are allies of ED and were told not to shoot at EST Ships. It seems though, that having seen our Capital Fleet in a previous engagement they set a trap for us and caught our convoy in a bubble. Naturally we jumped in our Capital's to defend the Freighters, but it seems backup arrived in the form of an RA Capital Fleet including a Titan. Several bubbles were placed around our fleet and being unable to warp out, did our utmost to fight until the very end. Seek's Archon was the first to die (poor boy has lost 3 Carriers now), followed by my Thanatos - itself a survivor of 2-3 major attacks on her - and then Brox's Chimera. Finally all firepower was concentrated on Hera. Cap dead, desynced and unable to fight against the remote repping of the enemy Capital Fleet, the ledgendary Hera finally succumbed to the onslaught. ED tried to stop the attack saying that we were allies, but alas it was too late. I might add, before rumours start circulating, that Rawthorm did not log off at any time during the attack, we discussed self-destruction on TS but we quickly decided we'd rather go down swinging. It has been a tremendous 16 months, and The Establishment has had so many good times and good memories as a result. Regardless of what you think of us and how we used her, we know we used her to the very best of our abilities, wherever and whenever possible and many of you have the scars to prove it Regards Angel CEO of The Establishment http://www.wearrsoyarr.com The Establishment is at your service...
Wardog 1 Infinitus Odium The Church.	Posted - 2007.08.24 23:34:00 - [2] Respect, may the big girl rest in peace.
Elohe GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.08.24 23:34:00 - [3] Edited by: Elohe on 24/08/2007 23:35:21 congrat xDEATHx
Major Raditz MASS Ministry Of Amarrian Secret Service	Posted - 2007.08.24 23:35:00 - [4] Congratulations for using this beast in battle. May another rise and fight as well as the first did.
Octaviun Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.08.24 23:35:00 - [5] that nyx did alot of things _________________________________________________
Boonaki Caldari Knights of Chaos Chaos Incarnate.	Posted - 2007.08.24 23:36:00 - [6] Edited by: Boonaki on 24/08/2007 23:37:32 RIP Hera I really thought she was going to go down in the siege of 9UY, she had a good run. Fear the Ibis of doom! 113
Bek Team Bek	Posted - 2007.08.24 23:36:00 - [7] Rest in Pieces, Hera.
Splagada Minmatar Tides of Silence Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.24 23:37:00 - [8] hats off, respect to ppl risking their ships ------ Proud Janitor of Tides of Silence
arghy steelwill GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.08.24 23:37:00 - [9] Edited by: arghy steelwill on 24/08/2007 23:38:40 Eh you do realize that while you have been allys with ED you have killed multiple RSF carriers doing empire runs? You also made the mistake of ***ing off the russians. gotta give bow my head to the best pirates around regardless of the grief they cause- takes balls to do what they did* Shot at 2007-07-19
Marie Sklodowska Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.08.24 23:38:00 - [10] This nyx derserves a moment of silence... Hera was an old woman who taught us all how to be men. www.eve-search.com \| www.eve-files.com

Zephirz Cruoris Seraphim	Posted - 2007.08.24 23:38:00 - [11] Shame Go get a new one zephirz [Selling Standard blue pill % x-instinct]
darth solo Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2007.08.24 23:38:00 - [12] that ship caused our boys alot of trouble. i spent a long time thinking of the best way to fight it pre nerf, then pretty much accepted that we would just avoid it at all costs. respect. d solo. RECRUITING... visit www.celesapoc.com ingame channel "celespublic" for recruitment or chat
scififreak Minmatar Exanimo Inc Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.08.24 23:39:00 - [13] RIP!
Pociomundo Gallente World Order The Imperial Order	Posted - 2007.08.24 23:39:00 - [14] Was the battle recorded at all from either perspective?
Sylia Minmatar Hooligans Of War	Posted - 2007.08.24 23:39:00 - [15] RIP
Serilla The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.08.24 23:39:00 - [16] This was the first MS I personally saw in game, was quite a site. __________________
Wesley Baird Murder-Death-Kill	Posted - 2007.08.24 23:40:00 - [17] Sorry for the loss!
slothe Caldari 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.08.24 23:40:00 - [18] Edited by: slothe on 24/08/2007 23:44:52 meh
hUssmann Caldari Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.08.24 23:41:00 - [19] Congratulations on all it's and your own achievements, hopefully you plan to by another/titan (tinfoil?) and cause the same havoc with it. Ginger Magician > You are merely an effective ganker of haulers who runs at the first sign of combat.
jackolena Dark Tornado Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2007.08.24 23:41:00 - [20] R.I.P Hera. You had a good run.

Starfall Hammer Starfall Industries	Posted - 2007.08.24 23:41:00 - [21] Originally by: Ange1 She has been perhaps the most talked about, most feared, most respected Mothership in the entire game... /signed Pilots of Iteron 5's all over empire space can sleep easier in their beds tonight.
lofty29 Infinitus Odium The Church.	Posted - 2007.08.24 23:42:00 - [22] Good job, ruskies. Popping blues makes you leet --- Project Mayhem 2
NightmareX Infinitus Odium The Church.	Posted - 2007.08.24 23:42:00 - [23] That ship have been through A LOT when it was alive And it was the oldest Mothership in EVE to. R.I.P Hera
Hitman396 Caldari UK Corp FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.24 23:45:00 - [24] Ruskies + capships = eeek =O RIP Hera
Boonaki Caldari Knights of Chaos Chaos Incarnate.	Posted - 2007.08.24 23:45:00 - [25] Who should we send money to so you can get a new one? Fear the Ibis of doom! 113
Tayler Derden Solar Dragons Red Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.24 23:47:00 - [26] Yarrr!!
Sexy Sasquatch Gallente Sofa King Good	Posted - 2007.08.24 23:49:00 - [27] Edited by: Sexy Sasquatch on 24/08/2007 23:49:15 it had a better death than it deserved
Karbowiak Caldari Exanimo Inc Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.08.24 23:51:00 - [28] Sad day indeed.. Bye Hera
Rhaegor Stormborn Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2007.08.24 23:52:00 - [29] Much respect Establishment. You can not lead nor win a war from the forums.
laotse Firing Squad Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.08.24 23:54:00 - [30] what is this hame coing to if the loss of a ship need,s a post pfffff get over it and move on sissi http://80.126.192.128:8888/tfd/uploads/1121735338/gallery_11_8_1124480365.jpg Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 kbs, ty - Cortes

Radek Boktor	Posted - 2007.08.24 23:55:00 - [31] Last hope of true piracy, just died RIP Hera
SasRipper DIE WITH HONOUR	Posted - 2007.08.24 23:55:00 - [32] Respect i would have sded but thats me So when can we expect Hera II? snip Sas has spoken this tread shall be locked.
Karim alRashid Gallente principle of motion Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.08.24 23:57:00 - [33] Originally by: Boonaki Who should we send money to so you can get a new one? Me. Thanks.
Ilmonstre The Illuminati. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.08.24 23:57:00 - [34] cant stay alive forever
Gene Starjumper The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2007.08.24 23:58:00 - [35] Originally by: Ange1 Edited by: Ange1 on 24/08/2007 23:36:18 How did this sad (or good depending on your opinion of us) news come to pass you might ask? It is perhaps a case of being stabbed in the back. The Establishment has been helping Ethereal Dawn escort Freighter convoy's through 0.0. Legion of Death are allies of ED and were told not to shoot at EST Ships. It seems though, that having seen our Capital Fleet in a previous engagement they set a trap for us and caught our convoy in a bubble. Naturally we jumped in our Capital's to defend the Freighters, but it seems backup arrived in the form of an RA Capital Fleet including a Titan. http://www.wearrsoyarr.com Our relationship with ED is purely for operational reasons. We are not in any way or form Allied with them. We have given ED an NAP at GoonSwarm's request. It is not my problem if you do not wish to notify ED's neighbors of your intent ahead of time - our policy has always been and will always be NBSI. It is unfortunate that this kill took place on an op with mutual friendlies, but EST showed up as neutral in our collective overview. They kill our merlins - we kill their carriers. They kill our Thanatos - we kill their Aeon. They kill our Tempest - we kill their Nyx. That is our retribution Official after action report comming soon.
Mr Broker Station Gremlings	Posted - 2007.08.24 23:58:00 - [36] Originally by: lofty29 Good job, ruskies. Popping blues makes you leet not blue idiot
Rawthorm Gallente The Establishment Establishment	Posted - 2007.08.25 00:00:00 - [37] Raises his beer Here is to the best vessel a captain could ever ask for. She served me well. I also thank all Hera's fans, friend and foe alike who've amazingly started donating ISK to fund her sucessor. No such action was asked of you and you have my thanks for doing so
Bilaz Minmatar Legion of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2007.08.25 00:00:00 - [38] NBSI says it all. yesterday someone told (translated for u) "we jumped half-eve to kill mom and now another comes to our system and we do nothing?" so we got ashamed and killed it thanks to everyone involved, and frankly without RA this won't be possible (and the other way around, i belive )
Kathi Caldari moon7empler Ev0ke	Posted - 2007.08.25 00:00:00 - [39] Ohh no my LOVE is dead...
Ace Frehley Minmatar Trinity Nova KIA Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.25 00:01:00 - [40] oh well, boring when you desynch, it is like when pamela andreson slowmotion runs in a armor suit

Beshta New Balkan Mafia Circle 0f Two	Posted - 2007.08.25 00:02:00 - [41] your killboard isnt working atm neither ra killboard works, any kill links perhaps?
Rawthorm Gallente The Establishment Establishment	Posted - 2007.08.25 00:02:00 - [42] Originally by: Gene Starjumper Originally by: Ange1 Edited by: Ange1 on 24/08/2007 23:36:18 How did this sad (or good depending on your opinion of us) news come to pass you might ask? It is perhaps a case of being stabbed in the back. The Establishment has been helping Ethereal Dawn escort Freighter convoy's through 0.0. Legion of Death are allies of ED and were told not to shoot at EST Ships. It seems though, that having seen our Capital Fleet in a previous engagement they set a trap for us and caught our convoy in a bubble. Naturally we jumped in our Capital's to defend the Freighters, but it seems backup arrived in the form of an RA Capital Fleet including a Titan. http://www.wearrsoyarr.com Our relationship with ED is purely for operational reasons. We are not in any way or form Allied with them. We have given ED an NAP at GoonSwarm's request. It is not my problem if you do not wish to notify ED's neighbors of your intent ahead of time - our policy has always been and will always be NBSI. It is unfortunate that this kill took place on an op with mutual friendlies, but EST showed up as neutral in our collective overview. They kill our merlins - we kill their carriers. They kill our Thanatos - we kill their Aeon. They kill our Tempest - we kill their Nyx. That is our retribution Official after action report comming soon. You were officialy informed on each run we did and likewise your guys acknowledged that we were working for ED and told us in local we wouldnt be hindered in anyway. That is the only reason we passed and the only reason we didnt blow your collective asses away the first time. Still that aside, good trap.
Nidia Masters The Littlest Hobos Betrayal Under Mayhem	Posted - 2007.08.25 00:03:00 - [43] Respect to the old girl, Hera. I've fought her on several occasions and can easily say, it would have been nice to kill her, but the way it was done is the lowest of the low that only Red Alliance and their Russian allies are capable. I hope you get another Nyx soon to take the fight to them now.
Verone Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.08.25 00:03:00 - [44] Along with being one of the first motherships to grace Tranquility, Hera was one of, if not the first to be used in direct frontline combat. It's been a pleasure for myself and my members to fly alongside her in the past, be it a full scale joint campaign or a single chance encounter in space. On more occasions that I could ever hope to count I've been left in a state of awe at the sheer amount of devestation she could cause with such a skilled and intrepid player at the helm. Fearless has never been enough of a word to describe how this ship was used, resulting in practically a legedary state of reputation among everyone who came into contact with her. Nothing more can be said other than Hera was one of the first, is so far probably the longest surviving, and has seen more frontline combat than any other mothership on Tranquility. R.I.P. >>> THE BEAUTY OF NEW EDEN <<<
Rawthorm Gallente The Establishment Establishment	Posted - 2007.08.25 00:04:00 - [45] Originally by: Kathi Ohh no my LOVE is dead... Hey Bismarks marage vows still apply after death you hear me? Don't you go cheating on me now or Hera's ghost will come pay you a visit
Sapphrine 5punkorp Betrayal Under Mayhem	Posted - 2007.08.25 00:06:00 - [46] Firstly, RIP a damn good ship. I had a long history with this ship. In my opening days as an FC in the 9uy pirate war I used to loath seeing her jump into system. Later on when we tried to trap her I spent many hours planning how to bring about her ultimate end. After the pirate war i spent a lot of time skirmishing with EST and lost still more ships to her and again attempted killing blows / traps :P Having EST on side for the second assault on 9uy, having her there in x-r3 when we dropped CVA's Capital ship yard, this ship was an awe inspiring sight. This ship had history, its commander has class (and balls of steel!). Sad way to go to a trap but good that you went down swinging. Hope to see your new incarnation :P Originally by: laotse what is this hame coing to if the loss of a ship need,s a post pfffff get over it and move on sissi perhaps go troll elsewhere? I appreciate that the way that tyraxx loses unique ships it may seem that a thread per major losses would clog this board but thats no reason to spoil other peoples fun now is it :P
Rawthorm Gallente The Establishment Establishment	Posted - 2007.08.25 00:07:00 - [47] Btw PLEASE guys, pace yourselves viewing the killmail. You are killing our server and public forums lol.
James Lyrus Lyrus Associates Betrayal Under Mayhem	Posted - 2007.08.25 00:09:00 - [48] It's a sad day to see Hera goin' down. I think those who liked seeing your exploits, should be considering having a whip-round for another one ;)
KIATolon GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.08.25 00:10:00 - [49] The only reason you lost your MS was because you choose to circle jirk over it. Hopefully next time you can keep your accomplishments low key.
WildSide Infinitus Odium The Church.	Posted - 2007.08.25 00:10:00 - [50] Edited by: WildSide on 25/08/2007 00:12:47 all respect to EST and exp Raw. I was accually wvery sad when I read the news. Remeber back as a 2mill ASS noob the first glimps of Hera...with respect and fear. Was the first mothership I ever saw...and is the mothership that IS THE MOTHERSHIP in my eyes. THe others is just a number. Too bad it went down while to a such accidence....Should atleast been a proper reason, not backstabbed by some reds, friendly or not. Hope u will get a new one...as u farmed cnrs and mission ravens well over the months:) repect..and 1 min silence for Hera! Vids produced by me

Grimpak Gallente Trinity Nova KIA Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.25 00:10:00 - [51] Originally by: Marie Sklodowska This nyx derserves a moment of silence... Hera was an old woman who taught us all how to be men. best of the thread. May you rest in peace, Hera. --- truth about EVE: Quote: "Guns are fine, boost players" Quote: "Players are fine, boost guns"
Gunship Amarr FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.25 00:11:00 - [52] man.... that was such a nice ship, hope you get a new one soon. So you want to join us?
Thargat Caldari S-44	Posted - 2007.08.25 00:11:00 - [53] Too bad EST... a mighty fine ship she was indeed. I even had the priveliege of seeing her once. If you plan to lay a new keel of another MS, might I suggest the name Athena ;) There's only one sig that matters... and that's Radius.
Taguchi Hiroko Xoth Inc Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.08.25 00:12:00 - [54] Edited by: Taguchi Hiroko on 25/08/2007 00:13:02 if you did not log and relog with an alt like tyrax, and took it like a man, respect.
Rawthorm Gallente The Establishment Establishment	Posted - 2007.08.25 00:14:00 - [55] Originally by: KIATolon The only reason you lost your MS was because you choose to circle jirk over it. Hopefully next time you can keep your accomplishments low key. If by circle jerk you mean jump in to assist our allies and corp mates regardless of the potential risk, then by all means I jerked as hard as I could.
hexy Locus Solus	Posted - 2007.08.25 00:14:00 - [56] Originally by: KIATolon The only reason you lost your MS was because you choose to circle jirk over it. Hopefully next time you can keep your accomplishments low key. um it took 16 months, how many failed alliances have you been in during that time?
Gene Starjumper The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2007.08.25 00:15:00 - [57] Originally by: Rawthorm You were officialy informed on each run we did and likewise your guys acknowledged that we were working for ED and told us in local we wouldnt be hindered in anyway. That is the only reason we passed and the only reason we didnt blow your collective asses away the first time. Still that aside, good trap. Telling my alliance members in local - who have no say in our alliance politics - that you're working for ED is not official information. If you really wanted this to be made official you would have informed us through diplomatic channels ahead of time. No communication from you came into our channels. Something tells me you were not working for ED but you made an agreement with them to build a supercap for you and wanted to keep this hush hush, but looks like it blew up in your face. But that's just speculation .
Shinjuro Infinitus Odium The Church.	Posted - 2007.08.25 00:19:00 - [58] Originally by: KIATolon The only reason you lost your MS was because after almost a year and a half of reaking havoc in many low secs and 0.0 systems of eve, luck and a little bit of unfortunate circumstance went against you. Hopefully with your next one you will kill me and my big mouth many times because TBH I shouldn't have posted this! Fixed for ya.
Sapphrine 5punkorp Betrayal Under Mayhem	Posted - 2007.08.25 00:21:00 - [59] Originally by: Innominate This is what happens when you spend too much time pirating in lowsec where your ship is still broken and invulnerable. May the same happen to all of the empire hiding supercaps. glad to see that you keep up the standard goon response of trolling away :) 1. learn facts 2. post 3. see 1. seriously get a clue. Hell look at the kills with it for one :)
pfive	Posted - 2007.08.25 00:22:00 - [60] Originally by: Rawthorm Originally by: Gene Starjumper Telling my alliance members in local - who have no say in our alliance politics - that you're working for ED is not official information. If you really wanted this to be made official you would have informed us through diplomatic channels ahead of time. No communication from you came into our channels. Something tells me you were not working for ED but you made an agreement with them to build a supercap for you and wanted to keep this hush hush, but looks like it blew up in your face. But that's just speculation . Im not gonna bash any further over the whole incident. Hera is dead, the deed is now done. As for our relationship with ED, you can speculate all you want but you'll find the truth rather dull and boring. I doubt they will afterall they even swear in their corp description they are that cool, I mean how cool is that?

Thargat Caldari S-44	Posted - 2007.08.25 00:22:00 - [61] Originally by: Shinjuro Originally by: KIATolon The only reason you lost your MS was because after almost a year and a half of reaking havoc in many low secs and 0.0 systems of eve, luck and a little bit of unfortunate circumstance went against you. Hopefully with your next one you will kill me and my big mouth many times because TBH I shouldn't have posted this! Fixed for ya. /signed... as I can testify to hera dealing damage in the north..... by wich time I seem to remember goons being mostly in empire... There's only one sig that matters... and that's Radius.
gimmemoneyhoney Krupp Industries und Werfe	Posted - 2007.08.25 00:22:00 - [62] Edited by: gimmemoneyhoney on 25/08/2007 00:24:27 Originally by: Gene Starjumper Originally by: Rawthorm You were officialy informed on each run we did and likewise your guys acknowledged that we were working for ED and told us in local we wouldnt be hindered in anyway. That is the only reason we passed and the only reason we didnt blow your collective asses away the first time. Still that aside, good trap. Telling my alliance members in local - who have no say in our alliance politics - that you're working for ED is not official information. If you really wanted this to be made official you would have informed us through diplomatic channels ahead of time. No communication from you came into our channels. Something tells me you were not working for ED but you made an agreement with them to build a supercap for you and wanted to keep this hush hush, but looks like it blew up in your face. But that's just speculation . lol for that. AS far as I know....even Im niether ED nor EST, EST owed ED a favor...and wanted to repay em. Too bad Reds screwes their owns allied alliance m8s Ops to kill a so and so valid target, blue or not. bet reds would have killed it anyway...even if EST had asked for standings.
Feterous Jolin War Crimes	Posted - 2007.08.25 00:24:00 - [63] /me bows 07 Hera
Mr Broker Station Gremlings	Posted - 2007.08.25 00:27:00 - [64] NBSI Welcome to 0.0 Establishement moving through russian space in capitals without being blue is plain stupid. trusting none-diplomats in local is stupid. the establishement is stupid.
Vasili Z Beasts of Burden YouWhat	Posted - 2007.08.25 00:28:00 - [65] That's a shame... ---- Everything I say represents my corporation and their views.
Martin Mckenna D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.08.25 00:28:00 - [66] wow unlucky
Ur235 Infinitus Odium The Church.	Posted - 2007.08.25 00:31:00 - [67] Originally by: KIATolon The only reason you lost your MS was because you choose to circle jirk over it. Hopefully next time you can keep your accomplishments low key. Back in to your hole goon n00b and coalition fanboy -_-
Destiny Calling Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.08.25 00:31:00 - [68] I was less of a nub when that thing was launched last year, hearing whisper stories of it being passsed around low sec was both frightening and appealing.
Deva Blackfire D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.08.25 00:33:00 - [69] Originally by: Sapphrine Originally by: Innominate This is what happens when you spend too much time pirating in lowsec where your ship is still broken and invulnerable. May the same happen to all of the empire hiding supercaps. glad to see that you keep up the standard goon response of trolling away :) 1. learn facts 2. post 3. see 1. seriously get a clue. Hell look at the kills with it for one :) Actually he is right. For ex. check kills in Gyerzen. Spercaps in losec are lame and invulnerable. Tho EST's nyx was used in 0.0 pretty often compared to some others that saw 0.0 only when they were produced...
Tbone Caldari Finite Horizon The Red Skull	Posted - 2007.08.25 00:34:00 - [70] Mucho respect to EST. Loved that ship and them guys. Never scared to jump hera into anything. Plus hera decided to pod me once just cause i cynoed her in and tried to get a ranis out of her. RAWTHORM!! ----------------------------------------------- Finite Horizon

Rawthorm Gallente The Establishment Establishment	Posted - 2007.08.25 00:37:00 - [71] Originally by: Tbone Mucho respect to EST. Loved that ship and them guys. Never scared to jump hera into anything. Plus hera decided to pod me once just cause i cynoed her in and tried to get a ranis out of her. RAWTHORM!! I knew that would come back to haunt me
Verone Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.08.25 00:40:00 - [72] Originally by: Rawthorm Originally by: Tbone Mucho respect to EST. Loved that ship and them guys. Never scared to jump hera into anything. Plus hera decided to pod me once just cause i cynoed her in and tried to get a ranis out of her. RAWTHORM!! I knew that would come back to haunt me I remember that... "WTF... Station...?!" >>> THE BEAUTY OF NEW EDEN <<<
Sacrosanctus	Posted - 2007.08.25 00:43:00 - [73] The Establishment killed a goon (a really stupid goon, there's a good story about lowsec rating with that one) carrier earlier this month. The Nyx was even first on the killmail. I hear goonswarm and the Reds are allied? I find it weird that people jack off to an invincible (barring desynch or power outage) ship in lowsec being, well, invincible in lowsec. "I spent hours thinking of a way to trap and kill it (but never could)"
violator2k5 Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.08.25 00:45:00 - [74] Edited by: violator2k5 on 25/08/2007 00:45:09 much respect for actually using her in battle, she had a good run. Hopefully Hera II will live upto the name and be just as feared as her predasessor was (if you get another ofc) ---------------------------- BOB 4 LIFE NOT JUST 4 A DAY ----------------------------
Thargat Caldari S-44	Posted - 2007.08.25 00:47:00 - [75] I find it weird that people jack off to an invincible (barring desynch or power outage) ship in lowsec being, well, invincible in lowsec. You've got it all wrong.... MILF stands for Mothership I'd Like to Fly... nothing else... and jerking certainly has nothing to do with it ;p There's only one sig that matters... and that's Radius.
Rawthorm Gallente The Establishment Establishment	Posted - 2007.08.25 00:47:00 - [76] Originally by: violator2k5 Edited by: violator2k5 on 25/08/2007 00:45:09 much respect for actually using her in battle, she had a good run. Hopefully Hera II will live upto the name and be just as feared as her predasessor was (if you get another ofc) Oh we shall. It's a matter of when rather than if. MoM's aint cheap tho
Stevobob Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.08.25 00:47:00 - [77] I remember reading about Hera soon after I started playing. :D Props to the Russians for killing it, and good job The Establishment guys for keeping it alive so long.
Anton March Mortis Angelus	Posted - 2007.08.25 00:49:00 - [78] Backstabbing friendlies on a logistics operation FTL. I hope xDeathxs allies look at this and reconsider their situations.
Dray Caldari Spartan Industries Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2007.08.25 00:50:00 - [79] lol at some of the hate in this thread, I doubt any mothership in game, cap blobs aside saw close to the ammount of action hera did, enjoy it, few can boast her achievements. And tbone, i forgot about that podding, more lols.
Yuki Li Caldari Omerta Syndicate Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.08.25 00:51:00 - [80] R.I.P Hera, respect to the pilot. Website Recruiting

Tbone Caldari Finite Horizon The Red Skull	Posted - 2007.08.25 00:52:00 - [81] Originally by: Verone Originally by: Rawthorm Originally by: Tbone Mucho respect to EST. Loved that ship and them guys. Never scared to jump hera into anything. Plus hera decided to pod me once just cause i cynoed her in and tried to get a ranis out of her. RAWTHORM!! I knew that would come back to haunt me I remember that... "WTF... Station...?!" Yeah it was all in good fun to pop a bunch of UK BSes. I just got the end of a SB. oh well, was an honor flying next to hera in providence. She being primary saved alot of us others. ----------------------------------------------- Finite Horizon
Bilaz Minmatar Legion of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2007.08.25 00:53:00 - [82] Edited by: Bilaz on 25/08/2007 00:54:34 Originally by: WildSide Edited by: WildSide on 25/08/2007 00:12:47 Too bad it went down while to a such accidence....Should atleast been a proper reason, not backstabbed by some reds, friendly or not. Fight was as clean as it could be. dictor let scout pass, bubble around 7- freits (and 2+ freits) and 2 bs() escort. 15-17 strong fleet jumped from side system to bubbled gate and engage freits. Est mother jumpes in with a pair of carriers into bubble. Legion cyno opened and capitals/RA support manage to jump thru it, before cyno-man is dead. Est bring more carrier(s) to help Nyx. Together they kill some dictors and bs and cariers remote repp Nyx. carriers go down and longly after Nyx. edit:(and again my sincere apologies to UA ship's acidently fired upon becouse of overview bug )
welsh wizard Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2007.08.25 00:53:00 - [83] Good innings, heres to the next one o/
Orangir GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.08.25 00:54:00 - [84] Edited by: Orangir on 25/08/2007 00:54:52 Originally by: Sacrosanctus The Establishment killed a goon (a really stupid goon, there's a good story about lowsec rating with that one) carrier earlier this month. The Nyx was even first on the killmail. I hear goonswarm and the Reds are allied? This. I think ED are blue to both Goonswarm and RA, but The Establishment has shot and continues to shoot us, so there's no conflict of interests here. If EST wanted to be set blue because they were working with our allies they should have contacted the diplomats of xDEATHx and RA, they didn't so they lost their mothership. There was no backstabbing.
Brunswick2 coracao ardente Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.08.25 01:08:00 - [85] Edited by: Brunswick2 on 25/08/2007 01:09:06 First mothership I ever saw, and the first (of many) to have killed me, oh, and a mandatory "well, this is good"
Anton March Mortis Angelus	Posted - 2007.08.25 01:08:00 - [86] "o **** they are hot dropping me"
Rawthorm Gallente The Establishment Establishment	Posted - 2007.08.25 01:10:00 - [87] Edited by: Rawthorm on 25/08/2007 01:11:12 Originally by: Orangir This. I think ED are blue to both Goonswarm and RA, but The Establishment has shot and continues to shoot us, so there's no conflict of interests here. If EST wanted to be set blue because they were working with our allies they should have contacted the diplomats of xDEATHx and RA, they didn't so they lost their mothership to them. There was no backstabbing. Take all the standings issues out of the equation, there was a good 60 seconds between the interdictor dropping a bubble on the convoy (which had ships blue to you in it) and the support arriving. During this time and throughout the following 15 minutes of combat, Ethreal Dawn themselves continualy informed you that the convoy was carrying Ethreal Dawn property. The fact you continued to engage shows COMPLETE disregard for your allies just to get a kill. Don't try and paint it anyother way because they all knew what the deal was with the convoy.
KOTH Fluf Caldari Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.08.25 01:19:00 - [88] Rest in Peace Hera. Was a fine ship. Killed me once too. Tried to trap that thing several times. Call me if you need another! Fluf CEO Shiva Morsus Mihi
Snake Jankins Minmatar German Cyberdome Corp Cult of War	Posted - 2007.08.25 01:19:00 - [89] Edited by: Snake Jankins on 25/08/2007 01:19:37 I think yesterday it was a bad omen. There was that necro'ed Hera birthday thread. I didn't notice the necro, tried to reply with a kudoz to hera, but by mistake made a new thread that got locked later. And now Hera is dead. Anyway, may the most famous mom rest in peace. She won't be forgotten. P.S.: I assume this time she's really dead ^^ ___________ I've never been so serious as I am now. No, really.
Dr Slaughter Coreli Corporation Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.08.25 01:23:00 - [90] Sad to see her go. She was the topic of many conversations when I was in ISSN. The next one just won't be the same will it?

Mr Broker Station Gremlings	Posted - 2007.08.25 01:24:00 - [91] Originally by: Rawthorm Edited by: Rawthorm on 25/08/2007 01:11:12 Originally by: Orangir This. I think ED are blue to both Goonswarm and RA, but The Establishment has shot and continues to shoot us, so there's no conflict of interests here. If EST wanted to be set blue because they were working with our allies they should have contacted the diplomats of xDEATHx and RA, they didn't so they lost their mothership to them. There was no backstabbing. Take all the standings issues out of the equation, there was a good 60 seconds between the interdictor dropping a bubble on the convoy (which had ships blue to you in it) and the support arriving. During this time and throughout the following 15 minutes of combat, Ethreal Dawn themselves continualy informed you that the convoy was carrying Ethreal Dawn property. The fact you continued to engage shows COMPLETE disregard for your allies just to get a kill. Don't try and paint it anyother way because they all knew what the deal was with the convoy. The deal was YOU FAILED escorting freighters for ED.
xlop Gallente omen.	Posted - 2007.08.25 01:27:00 - [92] Bye Hera , hope to see Hera 2 sometime soon
Bein Glorious GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.08.25 01:32:00 - [93] I'm not much of a fan of supercaps, but I always kind of liked The Establishment. They always seemed more lighthearted than most others who would mess around with broken supercaps. Though yeah, somebody else said it better, but of all the supercaps out there, Hera was probably the one I'd least like to see dead. The Establishment are good fellas and I hope they keep on enjoying EVE.
Turix Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.08.25 01:36:00 - [94] And yet another Supercap lost to a desync - i belive we have a problem \| Image Hosting \| My Movies \|
Nimitz Alexander Infinity Enterprises Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.08.25 01:39:00 - [95] err yeah it died desycned supposedly... after the rest of its capitol support was blown to hell... how exactly would it have escaped
Chungito Minmatar Khumatari Holdings Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.08.25 02:03:00 - [96] "The gods are hard to handle--when they come blazing forth in their true power." -Hera. May Hera rest as she lived, in a storm of fury and violence.
Victor Vision Central Intelligence Service	Posted - 2007.08.25 02:08:00 - [97] Congratulations to the killers of Hera, and congratulations to the Establishment for making her the most well known mothership in game by bringing her into action over and over again. EVE War I - Quick Overview (Feb/March)
BoB sucks Burning Bush Enterprises	Posted - 2007.08.25 02:31:00 - [98] Originally by: Innominate This is what happens when you spend too much time pirating in lowsec where your ship is still broken and invulnerable. May the same happen to all of the empire hiding supercaps. THIS
Nickhastapee Maelstrom Crew	Posted - 2007.08.25 02:36:00 - [99] she was so yar...RIP Hera o7
lofty29 Infinitus Odium The Church.	Posted - 2007.08.25 02:36:00 - [100] Originally by: Turix And yet another Supercap lost to a desync - i belive we have a problem Desync or not, it was dead when they dropped carriers + bs on it... --- Project Mayhem 2

Davlin Lotze STK Scientific M. PIRE	Posted - 2007.08.25 02:43:00 - [101] Originally by: Rawthorm Raises his beer Here is to the best vessel a captain could ever ask for. She served me well. I also thank all Hera's fans, friend and foe alike who've amazingly started donating ISK to fund her sucessor. No such action was asked of you and you have my thanks for doing so Hats off to you sir. You are a genuinely nice guy who always fielded my questions in a friendly manner. I am genuinely happy to see that you got your minutes of guns a blazin and taking as much of the opposition that was around you as possible before succumbing to the horde. I can assure you from experience that going down without being able to counterpunch at all isn't anything I'd wish on anyone...even my sworn enemies. I know Hera II will be just as feared as the original. That is ofc if you follow through with the idea of reacquisition. I hope you do....I know I'm reacquiring a mom to replace my loss :) It's just not the same flying anything else after having a long run in a mothership.
NightHawk VenGarden Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.08.25 02:45:00 - [102] I remember dieing to this thing when I was back in AXE. Was a pleasure to be killed by such a beautiful ship. May she rest in peace.
Viper ShizzIe Coreli Corporation Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.08.25 02:48:00 - [103] Rest in piece.
Feterous Jolin War Crimes	Posted - 2007.08.25 02:51:00 - [104] Originally by: Viper **zIe Rest in piece. little late there buddy...that's what happens when you go afk on me... :(
arghy steelwill GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.08.25 02:52:00 - [105] Edited by: arghy steelwill on 25/08/2007 02:52:22 Its not very bright to kill RSF capitals in low sec then try to fly through our space saying 'hey its cool we are with ED!' thats a good way to get ED screwed heh wouldent want everyone thinking you are a part of them when you go around shooting ships blue to them eh? welcome to 0.0 and NBSI? Shot at 2007-07-19
Irongut M'8'S Frontal Impact	Posted - 2007.08.25 02:57:00 - [106] Sad news. I always enjoyed reading tales of your exploits with Hera. Rust In Piece. Always program as if the person who will be maintaining your program is a violent psychopath that knows where you live.
Snowden Vel GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.08.25 03:29:00 - [107] That ship was probably the best return on an investment in EVE history. Signature removed - please email us to find out why (include a link) - Jacques([email protected])
Jacque Custeau Knights of the Minmatar Republic	Posted - 2007.08.25 03:55:00 - [108] Originally by: Rawthorm Edited by: Rawthorm on 25/08/2007 01:11:12 Take all the standings issues out of the equation, there was a good 60 seconds between the interdictor dropping a bubble on the convoy (which had ships blue to you in it) and the support arriving. During this time and throughout the following 15 minutes of combat, Ethreal Dawn themselves continualy informed you that the convoy was carrying Ethreal Dawn property. The fact you continued to engage shows COMPLETE disregard for your allies just to get a kill. Don't try and paint it anyother way because they all knew what the deal was with the convoy. What it is really is that their allies didn't respect a contract and let things go. When someone has allies that hold grudges like this, you really cant work with them as a merc. -------------------
KIATolon GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.08.25 03:59:00 - [109] Originally by: hexy Originally by: KIATolon The only reason you lost your MS was because you choose to circle jirk over it. Hopefully next time you can keep your accomplishments low key. um it took 16 months, how many failed alliances have you been in during that time? It took a matter of days since the circlejirk thread. How many alt corps have you been in since then?
Calisto Cody Minmatar The Black Swan Society	Posted - 2007.08.25 04:15:00 - [110] So much Tardist haste is this thread shakes head any who, Hera is a legend and will continue to be for years. 3 years from now rumors will fly through noob channel of Hera.. "I just like ships that are symmetrical, not ships with 5 propulsion jets on one side and 3 on the other and than maybe one in another random spot."

Arrgs Retribution Corp. Enelaise	Posted - 2007.08.25 04:17:00 - [111] Edited by: Arrgs on 25/08/2007 04:18:43 Sad day. Mad respect to EST for showing all of Eve what a Mothership is capable of, and using it the way it was intended. EDIT: I had the honor of dying to it on my alt. My first video!
Milena Rage The Aftermath Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.25 04:25:00 - [112] Originally by: KIATolon Originally by: hexy Originally by: KIATolon The only reason you lost your MS was because you choose to circle jirk over it. Hopefully next time you can keep your accomplishments low key. um it took 16 months, how many failed alliances have you been in during that time? It took a matter of days since the circlejirk thread. The necro'd thread?
James Damar Caldari 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.08.25 04:37:00 - [113] It was a beautifull ship and it will be missed. /me raises a glass to Hera
Stackz	Posted - 2007.08.25 04:52:00 - [114] Originally by: Nimitz Alexander err yeah it died desycned supposedly... after the rest of its capitol support was blown to hell... how exactly would it have escaped Why dont ya ask Tyraxx how he made his Aeon magically disappear when it was bubbled and on the verge of destruction? Cough, Cough logoff exploit, cough. Props to the Establishment for taking a loss like that and being good sports about it.
Nahual Gallente 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.08.25 05:15:00 - [115] She was a feared and admired beast, if I had any spare isk it'd go straight into the fund of getting a new Hera, you guys used her how she was meant. RIP Hera. /Nahual -----------------------------------------------
Lystar Maelstrom Crew	Posted - 2007.08.25 05:17:00 - [116] Condolences EST. That thing inspired utter awe as only a newb can experience it the first time I saw it, and cost me a brutix the second time :) Gang chat was something like this: FC: Warp to cyno. Me: OMW FC: No! It's the Nyx! Me: Already in warp :( FC: Sending ISK for your ship.... LOL, I think we'll all miss her. She was something special in eve. We were discussing this on TS and a corpie suggested erecting a monument at the G-5 gate in Assah. I second the motion :)
Angor The JORG Corporation FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.25 05:31:00 - [117] I only ever saw the ship camping low sec gates... which was kind of annoying as how invincible they are in low sec (but i wouldnt have it any other way) But nice momorial write up... respect. _______________________________ [ 2007.06.07 21:07:22 ] FrankyWave > ransom me guys I am joining XElas !!!
Trypho Minmatar Infinitus Odium The Church.	Posted - 2007.08.25 05:35:00 - [118] RIP Hera, even though she was a pain in the ass for us at times. It was good to see a ship put to maximum usage though, she used to tear down every ship entering lowsec
mr passie Minmatar Mercurialis Inc. Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.08.25 05:37:00 - [119] And there goes the ship that killed me in my first real venture into 0.0. I'll always remember it at the day I went from carebear to pvp-er. All the people I've killed so far, please blame HERA/THe Establ;ishment. I'm a reversed paranoid schizophrenic. I have voices in my head I just think I don't hear them!
Awox Advanced Logistics	Posted - 2007.08.25 05:42:00 - [120] I would sign my respect if it were not for EST trying to pass this of as some kind of blue on blue act of betrayal. How childish of them to cry foul when they are victims of NBSI in 0.0 when they act out NBSI in empire themselves, killing allies of potential "clients"

Gnulpie Minmatar Miner Tech	Posted - 2007.08.25 05:53:00 - [121] Oh no!! Hera is dead Sad news.
Sakura Nihil Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.08.25 06:12:00 - [122] Edited by: Sakura Nihil on 25/08/2007 06:11:54 Well played, and to echo an alliancemate on Vent, respect for using the baby rather than locking it up in some POS far away and letting it rust. How long until the next one comes out? Name it Juno dammit .
CiNi FireStar Inc FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.25 06:39:00 - [123] Originally by: Rawthorm Originally by: Kathi Ohh no my LOVE is dead... Hey Bismarks marage vows still apply after death you hear me? Don't you go cheating on me now or Hera's ghost will come pay you a visit i have a feeling he wont be the only one to be getting a visit Firestar Is Recruiting Again For A Short Time!!
Araviel Gallente Epic.	Posted - 2007.08.25 07:01:00 - [124] o7 Hera and the Establishment that ship had a truly epic life, ----------------
ForumPosterAlt HERRO KITTY	Posted - 2007.08.25 07:01:00 - [125] No hate for Hera, but there are too many supercapitals in the game right now, they need to be blowing up faster than they are being built in order to maintain a sense of balance, even if they cost alot. Good riddance to a super-capital, farewell to Hera. Because posting on the forums is serious business.
Orangir GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.08.25 07:01:00 - [126] Originally by: Rawthorm Take all the standings issues out of the equation, there was a good 60 seconds between the interdictor dropping a bubble on the convoy (which had ships blue to you in it) and the support arriving. During this time and throughout the following 15 minutes of combat, Ethreal Dawn themselves continualy informed you that the convoy was carrying Ethreal Dawn property. The fact you continued to engage shows COMPLETE disregard for your allies just to get a kill. Don't try and paint it anyother way because they all knew what the deal was with the convoy. The fact of the matter is: you decided to move stuff around Russian space while being openly hostile to them and you got burnt because of it. I couldn't care less about your relationship with ED and what it entailed. They decided to hire you without talking to us about it and they also got burnt. Either you or ED should have discussed this with the Russian diplomats, you can't blame them for shooting the freighters and motherships of a known pirate alliance that has openly engaged them. You also can't blame them for ignoring you when you tried to stop it, especially after the whole Curse Alliance fiasco with bitter ex-V members hiding under their protection. That said, The Establishment is probably the only decent pirate corp around and I hope you replace the mothership quickly because at least you know how use it properly.
arkarsk Provenance.	Posted - 2007.08.25 07:03:00 - [127] Originally by: Orangir The fact of the matter is: you decided to move stuff around Russian space while being openly hostile to them and you got burnt because of it. I couldn't care less about your relationship with ED and what it entailed. They decided to hire you without talking to us about it and they also got burnt. Either you or ED should have discussed this with the Russian diplomats, you can't blame them for shooting the freighters and motherships of a known pirate alliance that has openly engaged them. You also can't blame them for ignoring you when you tried to stop it, especially after the whole Curse Alliance fiasco with bitter ex-V members hiding under their protection. That said, The Establishment is probably the only decent pirate corp around and I hope you replace the mothership quickly because at least you know how use it properly. echoing this
Orree Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.08.25 07:08:00 - [128] Originally by: KOTH Fluf Rest in Peace Hera. Was a fine ship. Killed me once too. Tried to trap that thing several times. Call me if you need another! Yeah...we'll build it from rat loot, like we did MC's titan. "How much easier it is to be critical than to be correct." ---Benjamin Disraeli
MOS DEF 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.08.25 07:30:00 - [129] Rest in peace Hera. Got ganked by it myself once in deep 0.0. It was well piloted and not just hidden in low sec. Everything comes to an end at some point. Now go get a new one!
Cyriel Longinus XERCORE	Posted - 2007.08.25 08:06:00 - [130] Bagpipes wailing and 16 gun Salute! o7

MinmatarCitizen2323 Minmatar United Warriors Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.08.25 08:21:00 - [131] Originally by: Rawthorm Originally by: Gene Starjumper Originally by: Ange1 Edited by: Ange1 on 24/08/2007 23:36:18 How did this sad (or good depending on your opinion of us) news come to pass you might ask? It is perhaps a case of being stabbed in the back. The Establishment has been helping Ethereal Dawn escort Freighter convoy's through 0.0. Legion of Death are allies of ED and were told not to shoot at EST Ships. It seems though, that having seen our Capital Fleet in a previous engagement they set a trap for us and caught our convoy in a bubble. Naturally we jumped in our Capital's to defend the Freighters, but it seems backup arrived in the form of an RA Capital Fleet including a Titan. http://www.wearrsoyarr.com Our relationship with ED is purely for operational reasons. We are not in any way or form Allied with them. We have given ED an NAP at GoonSwarm's request. It is not my problem if you do not wish to notify ED's neighbors of your intent ahead of time - our policy has always been and will always be NBSI. It is unfortunate that this kill took place on an op with mutual friendlies, but EST showed up as neutral in our collective overview. They kill our merlins - we kill their carriers. They kill our Thanatos - we kill their Aeon. They kill our Tempest - we kill their Nyx. That is our retribution Official after action report comming soon. You were officialy informed on each run we did and likewise your guys acknowledged that we were working for ED and told us in local we wouldnt be hindered in anyway. That is the only reason we passed and the only reason we didnt blow your collective asses away the first time. Still that aside, good trap. I hope you learned your lessons: never trust russians! They did though what others alliances didn't succeed, even if the way you got trapped is suspicious. Strenght and honor!
ForumPosterAlt HERRO KITTY	Posted - 2007.08.25 08:37:00 - [132] I think The Establishment owes the Russians an apology. It was EST and ED that FAILED in communicating with their allies. You don't just pop inside a system telling local noobs that you are allies and waltz through. You fcked up big time. YOU fcked up, not the Russians, so don't be a bunch of whiney *****s about it. And as for defaming them as backstabbers, you owe them an apology. Because posting on the forums is serious business.**
Rikelov Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.08.25 08:53:00 - [133] I have to laugh at the occasional hater in this thread, when you fly such an expensive ship as aggressively as Hera was flown, then you can start with the smack. I will echo Sapph's statement, having flown against, and later with, this ship I will say that it lead a full life and was a force on the field. I was really impressed with how cool under pressure it was flown, I thought the crew of such a huge ship would be more aloof, but I saw them risk it on more than one occasion for an ally in need. RIP
Pareth Avedia M. Corp M. PIRE	Posted - 2007.08.25 09:17:00 - [134] Edited by: Pareth Avedia on 25/08/2007 09:16:50 M.Corp are ready to make HERA 2 at a moment's notice. Just join MCORP_SALES if you wish to discuss.
Laboratus Gallente BGG League of Abnormal Gentlemen	Posted - 2007.08.25 09:29:00 - [135] /me takes of his hat May she rest in peace ___ P.S. Post with your main. Mind control and tin hats
Necronomicon Caldari KIA Corp KIA Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.25 09:55:00 - [136] Edited by: Necronomicon on 25/08/2007 09:55:24 Originally by: ForumPosterAlt I think The Establishment owes the Russians an apology. It was EST and ED that FAILED in communicating with their allies. You don't just pop inside a system telling local noobs that you are allies and waltz through. You fcked up big time. YOU fcked up, not the Russians, so don't be a bunch of whiney *******s about it. And as for defaming them as backstabbers, you owe them an apology. Bypassing the profanity filter, trolling, and generally big a nob. Grow up and post with your main. Spineless gimp Carlsberg dont make Eve Pilots, but if they did, i wouldnt be one of them.
La Vittoria 5punkorp Betrayal Under Mayhem	Posted - 2007.08.25 10:39:00 - [137] Originally by: Necronomicon Edited by: Necronomicon on 25/08/2007 09:55:24 Originally by: ForumPosterAlt I think The Establishment owes the Russians an apology. It was EST and ED that FAILED in communicating with their allies. You don't just pop inside a system telling local noobs that you are allies and waltz through. You fcked up big time. YOU fcked up, not the Russians, so don't be a bunch of whiney *******s about it. And as for defaming them as backstabbers, you owe them an apology. Bypassing the profanity filter, trolling, and generally big a nob. Grow up and post with your main. Spineless gimp ^^ that. She was a great ship, and big respects to the pilot. RIP Hera
Frances Ducoir Bounty Hunter - Dark Legion Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.25 11:26:00 - [138] RIP hera and compliment to EST for using it, as well as x.i.x./ra for bringing it down
Aizhan Ushrakhan The Sword and The Shield	Posted - 2007.08.25 11:34:00 - [139] Serves you right for pirating so many times in 0.4 with impunity .. and for those who think they didnt do it in 0.4 your full of krapp, check their killboards. Good riddance. i call it payback.. whining about how you were allied (but not blue) is stupid. You were outgunned and outclassed. You lost.
Tannach The Littlest Hobos Betrayal Under Mayhem	Posted - 2007.08.25 11:42:00 - [140] One of the greatest ships to grace Eve. She will be missed! At least she went down fighting. -Tannach Originally by: "James Lyrus" If the army started trying to storm tescos, you can bet they'd be throwing bagels at them.

Sapphrine 5punkorp Betrayal Under Mayhem	Posted - 2007.08.25 11:46:00 - [141] Originally by: Aizhan Ushrakhan Serves you right for pirating so many times in 0.4 with impunity .. and for those who think they didnt do it in 0.4 your full of krapp, check their killboards. Good riddance. i call it payback.. whining about how you were allied (but not blue) is stupid. You were outgunned and outclassed. You lost. Outgunned for sure, out classed hardly :) No one is denying that it was used in 0.4... the point is that for almost any one of their 0.4 kills there's at least a few in 0.0 to go with it. I've seen it frontlined all over providence and into catch in the past year. Any time they're in the area you'd see that ship jumping in daily at least. She was piloted well, she was used like a MoM should be, not just kept in lowsec. Get over yourself if you can't accept this.
Awox Advanced Logistics	Posted - 2007.08.25 11:47:00 - [142] Originally by: Aizhan Ushrakhan Serves you right for pirating so many times in 0.4 with impunity .. and for those who think they didnt do it in 0.4 your full of krapp, check their killboards. Good riddance. i call it payback.. whining about how you were allied (but not blue) is stupid. You were outgunned and outclassed. You lost. I lol @ the people saying EST had balls for deploying this ship. OH RLY? With the smartbombs it had fit and it taking so long to kill even though many in this thread openly admit to failing to kill it after much planning you know that it's horse****. It takes no balls to deploy a mothership. See if they bother getting a new one seeing as dictors have been boosted into supercap killing champions now.
Mutant UA Industry Red Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.25 11:50:00 - [143] Originally by: MinmatarCitizen2323 I hope you learned your lessons: never trust russians! They did though what others alliances didn't succeed, even if the way you got trapped is suspicious. RA long time have -10 to EST. Stop child talks about trust and betrayal, EST our enemy! They pirates and gunkers and we have acted with them adequately to their concepts. EST: yesterday and tomorrow we shoot you but today we are good, lub us... sounds lol ------------ Mutant CEO
Cerys Magente Maelstrom Crew	Posted - 2007.08.25 12:04:00 - [144] RIP to a gorgeous ship I was privileged to see the Nyx stand guard over the egg that was to become the R-6 outpost - a very reassuring presence, especially since a BoB titan had been rumoured to be in the vicinity! - though I was careful not to get too close in case Rawthorm decided to swat the goon ships around it like flies
Ange1 Gallente The Establishment Establishment	Posted - 2007.08.25 12:07:00 - [145] Edited by: Ange1 on 25/08/2007 12:07:15 Originally by: Aizhan Ushrakhan Serves you right for pirating so many times in 0.4 with impunity .. and for those who think they didnt do it in 0.4 your full of krapp, check their killboards. Good riddance. i call it payback.. whining about how you were allied (but not blue) is stupid. You were outgunned and outclassed. You lost. Our statement is a simple statement of our perspective of the entire matter. We do not deny we lost, we got our arses handed to us no doubt and we are not afraid to admit that. Nor do we deny we used the Mothership in low-sec, we have often used it in low-sec as we have 0.0. We are equal opportunity pirates when it comes to system security The Establishment is at your service...
Alpine 69 Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.08.25 12:13:00 - [146] All good (or badass) things come to an end R.I.P Hera Sweet love for the ones that mod my sig <3 From her? You're on. -Rauth
Ashoka TG Einherjar Rising	Posted - 2007.08.25 12:15:00 - [147] Don't know of too many corps/alliances who would take the loss of 3 carriers and an MS with such class. salute to Hera and Est.
Alski Gallente Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.25 12:48:00 - [148] ahh damn me, i dident notice this thread untill i'd allready posted in the other so called "battle report", that sumed up Hera's death as "...and a heavy battle ensued...", quite possabley the worst and most uninteresting statement one could possabley make regarding such an epic ship with her epic history. I never got the chance to see her sadley, dispite at least a few encounters with EST and now i never will, a deathmail from Hera would have been a keeper So long old girl, may you rest in peace, you lasted longer than all others. Now... your getting Hera MK2 soon yeah? - (combat) Patch belonging to CCP hits your drones, wrecking their liberty and freedom.
Baxalusx GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.08.25 12:57:00 - [149] Edited by: Baxalusx on 25/08/2007 12:57:56 hera was just as much an unbalanced piece of crap as any other supercap in the game and if you get a new one you better stay in lowsec where you belong because there's lots of dictors here in 0.0 xD no amount of circlejerking over the memory or the wreck will change the fact that once your supercap was made vulnerable, it died a pretty pathetic death in an environment you just aren't used to (hurr supercap in 0.0 without a support fleet) this isn't lowsec, go home --------- im ghey xD
Baxalusx GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.08.25 13:00:00 - [150] Originally by: Baxalusx Edited by: Baxalusx on 25/08/2007 12:57:56 hera was just as much an unbalanced piece of crap as any other supercap in the game and if you get a new one you better stay in lowsec where you belong because there's lots of dictors here in 0.0 xD no amount of circlejerking over the memory or the wreck will change the fact that once your supercap was made vulnerable, it died a pretty pathetic death in an environment you just aren't used to (hurr supercap in 0.0 without a support fleet) this isn't lowsec, go home lol oops i mean o/ m8s mad respect for BRINGING IT --------- im ghey xD

Genazvale G.M.C. Ultima Rati0	Posted - 2007.08.25 13:25:00 - [151] Nice job xDeathx, nync and co.
IntegralHellsing Gallente Corrupt Disciples Mare Tranquillitatis	Posted - 2007.08.25 13:25:00 - [152] RESPECT! to EST --------------------------------------
DUFFMANX Infinitus Odium The Church.	Posted - 2007.08.25 13:39:00 - [153] Ballsy, very ballsy use of that ship. Any chance we can get list of mods that survived, seems only 2 officer mods died on her Originally by: dimensionZ The biggest threat we ever had was xirtam mining plagioclase in aridia ...
Csaer	Posted - 2007.08.25 13:56:00 - [154] Originally by: Baxalusx Originally by: Baxalusx Edited by: Baxalusx on 25/08/2007 12:57:56 hera was just as much an unbalanced piece of crap as any other supercap in the game and if you get a new one you better stay in lowsec where you belong because there's lots of dictors here in 0.0 xD no amount of circlejerking over the memory or the wreck will change the fact that once your supercap was made vulnerable, it died a pretty pathetic death in an environment you just aren't used to (hurr supercap in 0.0 without a support fleet) this isn't lowsec, go home lol oops i mean o/ m8s mad respect for BRINGING IT shut up idiot
mamolian M. Corp M. PIRE	Posted - 2007.08.25 14:46:00 - [155] Terrible shame. For being a right bunch of "baddies" you chaps always had class! Hope to see a replacement for Hera in the future. -------------------------------
Kaldaine GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.08.25 14:48:00 - [156] Originally by: Baxalusx Originally by: Baxalusx Edited by: Baxalusx on 25/08/2007 12:57:56 hera was just as much an unbalanced piece of crap as any other supercap in the game and if you get a new one you better stay in lowsec where you belong because there's lots of dictors here in 0.0 xD no amount of circlejerking over the memory or the wreck will change the fact that once your supercap was made vulnerable, it died a pretty pathetic death in an environment you just aren't used to (hurr supercap in 0.0 without a support fleet) this isn't lowsec, go home lol oops i mean o/ m8s mad respect for BRINGING IT Stop posting. There are no better allies then ones like xxDeathxx and RA. Im sorry you werent able to go from shooting us one day to + standings the next.
Sapphrine 5punkorp Betrayal Under Mayhem	Posted - 2007.08.25 15:09:00 - [157] Originally by: Baxalusx Originally by: Baxalusx Edited by: Baxalusx on 25/08/2007 12:57:56 hera was just as much an unbalanced piece of crap as any other supercap in the game and if you get a new one you better stay in lowsec where you belong because there's lots of dictors here in 0.0 xD no amount of circlejerking over the memory or the wreck will change the fact that once your supercap was made vulnerable, it died a pretty pathetic death in an environment you just aren't used to (hurr supercap in 0.0 without a support fleet) this isn't lowsec, go home lol oops i mean o/ m8s mad respect for BRINGING IT when come back, develop social skills?? i mean seriously, you have zero understanding of the ships history, zero understaning of how well it has been used in the past and... well lets be honest you're fulfilling and reinforcing the opinion most people have of goons. Stop smacking, stop acting like you have a clue, stop making a fool of yourself. If you feel the need to respond, either have something construtive to say or just leave the thread alone. Posting utter bull on the thread because you have epeen issues adds nothing useful.
DeckardIRL The Randoms THE V I G I L	Posted - 2007.08.25 15:14:00 - [158] Red scum.. you can't trust 'em. Where any ED ships attacked during the engagement? Sounds all too much like you were setup. Respect to you guys but am happy a pirate Nyx is no longer. Deck Whiskey For CAOD at its best
killerco Gallente Confederation of Red Moon Red Moon Federation	Posted - 2007.08.25 15:25:00 - [159] Originally by: laotse what is this hame coing to if the loss of a ship need,s a post pfffff get over it and move on sissi too much whine again m8 couldn't understand a word you wrote
Rawthorm Gallente The Establishment Establishment	Posted - 2007.08.25 15:28:00 - [160] Edited by: Rawthorm on 25/08/2007 15:28:12 I do feel I need to clarfiy something here (despite that it wont change a thing) I'm not so much bothered that xxdeathxx and RA attacked us. We've ****ed off alot of people, as being a pirate tends to do that. Hera's eventual death was inevitable. What I am bothered about, is that they cost their own allies (Ethreal Dawn) considerable loss just to get a shot at killing Hera. They knew we had ED property on board yet they set us up and went ahead with it regardless. You can put all the spin you want on it but the fact remains you wantedly destroyed your own allies property to get to us, and with not so much as an apology or an offer of re-imbersement. THAT is what I have a problem with.

Groox Cult of War	Posted - 2007.08.25 15:31:00 - [161] Well that MS was used indeed for low sec piracy so no respect towards EST from me this time. Even more. I'm rather glad to see they lost it. However it's always sad to see fine bird going down. RIP.
Cefte Gray Ivy GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.08.25 15:37:00 - [162] Edited by: Cefte on 25/08/2007 15:39:10 Edited by: Cefte on 25/08/2007 15:38:23 Originally by: Rawthorm Edited by: Rawthorm on 25/08/2007 15:28:12 I do feel I need to clarfiy something here (despite that it wont change a thing) I'm not so much bothered that xxdeathxx and RA attacked us. We've **ed off alot of people, as being a pirate tends to do that. Hera's eventual death was inevitable. What I am bothered about, is that they cost their own allies (Ethreal Dawn) considerable loss just to get a shot at killing Hera. They knew we had ED property on board yet they set us up and went ahead with it regardless. You can put all the spin you want on it but the fact remains you wantedly destroyed your own allies property to get to us, and with not so much as an apology or an offer of re-imbersement. THAT is what I have a problem with. Originally by:** Ange1 Originally by: Zarimax Mishka What was in the freiters, precious? Nothing, it was our return trip so all Freighters were empty. Come now, if you're going to get angry, you might at least check that your own alliance members don't outright contradict you. Unless you're claiming that even though it was the return trip and you'd supposedly emptied out at your destination, you'd decided to keep some of their stuff? Maybe this ED property was just too shiny for you not to steal it
Rawthorm Gallente The Establishment Establishment	Posted - 2007.08.25 15:50:00 - [163] Originally by: Cefte Edited by: Cefte on 25/08/2007 15:39:10 Edited by: Cefte on 25/08/2007 15:38:23 Originally by: Rawthorm Edited by: Rawthorm on 25/08/2007 15:28:12 I do feel I need to clarfiy something here (despite that it wont change a thing) I'm not so much bothered that xxdeathxx and RA attacked us. We've **ed off alot of people, as being a pirate tends to do that. Hera's eventual death was inevitable. What I am bothered about, is that they cost their own allies (Ethreal Dawn) considerable loss just to get a shot at killing Hera. They knew we had ED property on board yet they set us up and went ahead with it regardless. You can put all the spin you want on it but the fact remains you wantedly destroyed your own allies property to get to us, and with not so much as an apology or an offer of re-imbersement. THAT is what I have a problem with. Originally by:** Ange1 Originally by: Zarimax Mishka What was in the freiters, precious? Nothing, it was our return trip so all Freighters were empty. Come now, if you're going to get angry, you might at least check that your own alliance members don't outright contradict you. Unless you're claiming that even though it was the return trip and you'd supposedly emptied out at your destination, you'd decided to keep some of their stuff? Maybe this ED property was just too shiny for you not to steal it Try the ships themselves and the gear Hera herself was carrying...
Cefte Gray Ivy GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.08.25 15:59:00 - [164] Edited by: Cefte on 25/08/2007 16:02:44 Originally by: Rawthorm Try the ships themselves and the gear Hera herself was carrying... So by 'They knew we had ED property on board' you meant 'the ships themselves? You were flying ships belonging to ED, who decided they'd be safer under your ticker because blargle bleup? That's interesting, and completely unbelievable. And why, exactly, was your mothership carrying valuable property away from the destination, into battle? Any ED want to chime in? Edit: Originally by: Rawthorm (besides its only after the fact that it was known the freighters were empy on that trip) Ok, so your argument shifts from 'you nasties blew up your allies cargo' to 'you nasties didn't blow up your allies cargo at all but WHO KNOWS WHAT COULD HAVE HAPPENED'?
Popsikle Minmatar Re-Awakened Technologies Inc Electus Matari	Posted - 2007.08.25 16:15:00 - [165] Originally by: Marie Sklodowska This nyx derserves a moment of silence... Hera was an old woman who taught us all how to be men. This. RIP Hera, in hedal/fountian/anywhere I went there you were, trying to pop me! ____ <t20> i want to be in a manager potition at Hooters <SaraDawn> Garthagk, do you have it up ? <Garthagk> I can get it up anytime.
Clerence Thomas Gallente Black Lotus Heavy Industries Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2007.08.25 16:21:00 - [166] Much respect to EST and Hera, truely an unfortunate loss. Only supercap i've personally seen, and I was fortunate to be in friendly ops all the times I saw her. As to what was EDs, there's a good chance some of the ships in the hanger array were ours, may have loaned out carriers (some of us have spares to go with our spare clones), high probability of some loaned freighters - after all some of us have 5 or 6 floating around near various clones and operations. Unfortunatly I wasn't around or involved in the planning or diplomatic aspects, since this strange thing called First Life has been a pain in my arse lately; so my understanding is limited. To the haters and trolls, can it. In the end she went down fighting as well as she could, considering the what has come out about the fight, and that's the mark of a true warrior. Just for that respect is deserved. -- "There are over 500 million fire arms in worldwide circulation. That is one fire arm for every twelve people on the planet. The only question is... How do we arm the other eleven?"
Yuki Michi Caldari New Paradyne Technologies Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2007.08.25 16:28:00 - [167] Originally by: Cefte Insert trolling stuff here I had hoped not to have to post on these god awful forums, but having been there and actually having been shot at I guess I should. I had assets that needed moving from our space to empire for sale. It was ultimately a safer bet to throw it inside the Establishment's mothership than have it fly by vulnerable hauler or sit loose inside a freighter. Many of said freighters were owned by myself and given to any pilot willing to fly them, both Establishment and other corporations as no one in the alliance had the time to spare. When the first interdictor bubble went up, I asked for the Nyx to be jumped in to remote repair the freighters while the attacking force was reminded who they belonged to. I had no idea that half of a supposedly allied force was going to jump in and blow us away. I personally have been on every convoy and informed the locals on the intent of the convoy. Yes I could have contacted an official diplomat for standings, but again I didnÆt believe that we would have a major allied fleet dropped on us despite me personally informing every local we saw what the deal was. There simply is no excuse on the part of the attacking force. They were informed in no uncertain terms that Establishment were carrying our property. Further more, on my instruction Establishment deliberately allowed all normal local traffic to pass unhindered and had agreed not to pirate the local area. The only non-hostile local that was harmed was a single Legion of xXDEATHXx Myrmidon that refused to break off its attack on our convoy earlier in the week. After this we were told repeatedly by different members of xXDEATHXx that we would be left alone. They may not have been directors that I know of but where I come from a corporation is responsible for the members on its roster and any such promises should not have been used as a cheap way to lay a trap. In either case IÆve said my piece here and any further correspondence from me will be done in game where it belongs. Regards Yuki Michi Ceo û New Paradyne Technologies
Shinjuro Infinitus Odium The Church.	Posted - 2007.08.25 16:43:00 - [168] The final tally of Hera (according to EST kb): approx: 1900 kills of which 784 were battleships, 23 were carriers, 14 were freighters, and 5 were dreadnaughts! 191 BILLION isk in damage done! I aim to say this ship was one of the, if not the most deadly ship of her time? o7 HERA
Algey The Littlest Hobos Betrayal Under Mayhem	Posted - 2007.08.25 16:56:00 - [169] Sad to see Hera go, even if I hate supercaps. Damn first time I saw here she locked me and I really panicked, mind you I was in a scorp, stupid broken EW invulnerability . I can't figure out how you locked me in 0.0 since the goons seem to say you only pirate in lowsec.
Phoenixgurl Amarr Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.08.25 17:17:00 - [170] RIP Hera -------------------------- When the universe collapses and dies, there will be 3 survivors: Tyr Anasazi, the cocroaches ... and Dylan Hunt trying to save the cocroaches. --Tyr (Andromeda)

Mc Leech The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2007.08.25 17:19:00 - [171] Edited by: Mc Leech on 25/08/2007 17:19:22 Let me paint a picture from our point of view: A. A known pirate corporation that as was mention has -10 standing to RA was escorting neutral freighters to ED station. LetÆs see, if you are a pirate corp. living in low sec where would you build your capital ships, hmmm.... B. They escorting freighters for 2 days in a row with "unknown ED property" (lol) This means at least 2 mothers or a titan. Yes as much as I want to believe that EST are such a swell guys and decided to give you a hand moving 30+ freighters with "your property" I would say chances of that to be true are about 1:1000000. The fact that you did not in any way try to contact RA or GS leadership to inform them on this op only proves that. So here are the facts: ED was in a gang with our enemies helping to move neutral freighters without informing us of their intents. Not only I donÆt think we did anything wrong, but if anyone was backstabbing someone it was ED backstabbing us by working with our enemies. The only thing ED has a right to ask Legion of xxDeathxx for right now is to adjust their standing downward. If thatÆs what you want feel free to contact our diplomat we will be happy to comply...
Snowden Vel GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.08.25 17:27:00 - [172] Edited by: Snowden Vel on 25/08/2007 17:28:38 Originally by: Yuki Michi Establishment were carrying our property. It's somewhat mystifying that you decided your possessions would be safer in the hands of an entity that's run around indiscriminately pirating most of 0.0 and lowsec. You need a little more diplomacy than just "no wait that's our stuff aaaaa" to get your blues on board with the idea, particularly when that excuse sounded (and still sounds) suspiciously like a last-ditch attempt to cover for EST under the circumstances. EST's mothership was a pretty fearsome war machine, perhaps you should have put a bit more thought into unilaterally attempting to treat and use it like the cuddly carebear spacebus. Signature removed - please email us to find out why (include a link) - Jacques([email protected])
Algey The Littlest Hobos Betrayal Under Mayhem	Posted - 2007.08.25 17:32:00 - [173] Originally by: Snowden Vel Edited by: Snowden Vel on 25/08/2007 17:28:38 EST's mothership was a pretty fearsome war machine, perhaps you should have put a bit more thought into unilaterally attempting to treat and use it like the cuddly carebear spacebus. Originally by: Baxalusx Edited by: Baxalusx on 25/08/2007 12:57:56 hera was just as much an unbalanced piece of crap as any other supercap in the game and if you get a new one you better stay in lowsec where you belong because there's lots of dictors here in 0.0 xD no amount of circlejerking over the memory or the wreck will change the fact that once your supercap was made vulnerable, it died a pretty pathetic death in an environment you just aren't used to (hurr supercap in 0.0 without a support fleet) this isn't lowsec, go home Fearsome war machine or pile of crap lowsec pirate, I just can't figure these goons out...
iiixiii Spontaneous Defenestration The Red Skull	Posted - 2007.08.25 17:33:00 - [174] First MS and oldest in Eve! RIP! W1N iiixiii
Megacyte Milo	Posted - 2007.08.25 17:43:00 - [175] Sad to see you go Hera :( I know you'll have another one shortly.
Snowden Vel GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.08.25 17:44:00 - [176] Edited by: Snowden Vel on 25/08/2007 17:45:26 Originally by: Algey Fearsome war machine or pile of crap lowsec pirate, I just can't figure these goons out... Different people having different opinions? I'm not really sure why goons are trolling this thread so hard aside from the way EST/ED have been whining about the circumstances surrounding the loss. That mothership was pretty much an endless fountain of comedic overkill. In particular, it's responsible for the loss of Eldoreth's carrier (Goonfleet's timecarded carrier pilot newbie [he quit]) which led to one of the funniest threads on our forums in recent memory. Signature removed - please email us to find out why (include a link) - Jacques([email protected])
gimmemoneyhoney Krupp Industries und Werfe	Posted - 2007.08.25 17:58:00 - [177] Originally by: Mc Leech Edited by: Mc Leech on 25/08/2007 17:19:22 Let me paint a picture from our point of view: A. A known pirate corporation that as was mention has -10 standing to RA was escorting neutral freighters to ED station. LetÆs see, if you are a pirate corp. living in low sec where would you build your capital ships, hmmm.... B. They escorting freighters for 2 days in a row with "unknown ED property" (lol) This means at least 2 mothers or a titan. Yes as much as I want to believe that EST are such a swell guys and decided to give you a hand moving 30+ freighters with "your property" I would say chances of that to be true are about 1:1000000. The fact that you did not in any way try to contact RA or GS leadership to inform them on this op only proves that. So here are the facts: ED was in a gang with our enemies helping to move neutral freighters without informing us of their intents. Not only I donÆt think we did anything wrong, but if anyone was backstabbing someone it was ED backstabbing us by working with our enemies. The only thing ED has a right to ask Legion of xxDeathxx for right now is to adjust their standing downward. If thatÆs what you want feel free to contact our diplomat we will be happy to comply... kinda weird isnt it....even Infod had more respect for that blue is blue than the big alliances like red and xxdeath. they seem like a bunch of loose-cannons looking for eve-o forum cheastbeating kill stuff. Even ED and INFOD is bitter enemys infod still holded their packt..not trying to kill the neutral freighters, since some days before EST was set to blue for a short periode, after the freighter inicodent , some days before. RA even reaviled their Titan , inc type and titan pilot to kill a "nuetral" ms(which was helping blues) and blue freighters ues, while been in heavy war with Bob. its says something about the trustworthy lv on those guys. same as blues in RA space now and then get shoot by triggerhappy RAs
Orangir GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.08.25 18:04:00 - [178] Originally by: Algey Fearsome war machine or pile of crap lowsec pirate, I just can't figure these goons out... stop posting
Shirei Minmatar Cutting Edge Incorporated	Posted - 2007.08.25 18:07:00 - [179] Originally by: iiixiii First MS and oldest in Eve! RIP! More like second MS..
Mr Broker Station Gremlings	Posted - 2007.08.25 18:07:00 - [180] Originally by: gimmemoneyhoney its says something about the trustworthy lv on those guys. same as blues in RA space now and then get shoot by triggerhappy RAs it says you're pretty stupid and can't read

BuIIseye Amarr Pax Amarria Corp	Posted - 2007.08.25 18:09:00 - [181] o7 Hera At least they didn't shoot you for wanting a claim at a 10/10 after defeating common enemy's ------------------------------ Yes i am hax0r Because of the name I have a higher chance of a wrecking shot, please don't tell the GM's or they'll nerf me =/
gimmemoneyhoney Krupp Industries und Werfe	Posted - 2007.08.25 18:14:00 - [182] Originally by: Mr Broker Originally by: gimmemoneyhoney its says something about the trustworthy lv on those guys. same as blues in RA space now and then get shoot by triggerhappy RAs it says you're pretty stupid and can't read ?? lol to u. its knowed fact...flame it as much as u want. Ask any non goon or big alliance living in RA space. it occurse, even they say its since it so many of em. uncertain if they are alt spys or not.
Alekseyev Karrde The Royal Guard Giant Space Amoeba	Posted - 2007.08.25 18:23:00 - [183] One less pirate momma \o/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -Alekseyev Ambassador, Fleet Commander, Council Member =The Royal Guard= "=TRG=Public" Channel www.rgrocks.com
End Yourself Core Domination Big Bang Quantum	Posted - 2007.08.25 18:35:00 - [184] Originally by: Alekseyev Karrde One less pirate momma \o/ Sadly it wasn't one of the lame low sec gate camping ones or i'd have to agree! Still impossible to kill without bubbles. @Establishment: Kudos for still using it in 0.0 and not becoming lame low sec no risk gankers after the patch. Stick to your balls of steel and use Hera II or whatever is beeing build with the freighter's cargo the same way! --- Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity.
Laird Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.08.25 18:38:00 - [185] A hell of a ship and a hell of a run. I suggest the replacement is called either Hebe, Ares or Eileithyia.
Martin VanBuren GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.08.25 18:48:00 - [186] Originally by: Laird A hell of a ship and a hell of a run. I suggest the replacement is called either Hebe, Ares or Eileithyia. Or maybe something that isn't tremendously ***
Trak'anon	Posted - 2007.08.25 18:49:00 - [187] Originally by: Martin VanBuren Originally by: Laird A hell of a ship and a hell of a run. I suggest the replacement is called either Hebe, Ares or Eileithyia. Or maybe something that isn't tremendously *** mlyp
DUFFMANX Infinitus Odium The Church.	Posted - 2007.08.25 19:12:00 - [188] Originally by: Martin VanBuren Originally by: Laird A hell of a ship and a hell of a run. I suggest the replacement is called either Hebe, Ares or Eileithyia. Or maybe something that isn't tremendously * U mean like goonfleet or goonswarm ? Originally by:** dimensionZ The biggest threat we ever had was xirtam mining plagioclase in aridia ...
Apollyon X Dark Knights of Deneb Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.08.25 19:17:00 - [189] Good
Laird Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.08.25 19:18:00 - [190] Originally by: Martin VanBuren Originally by: Laird A hell of a ship and a hell of a run. I suggest the replacement is called either Hebe, Ares or Eileithyia. Or maybe something that isn't tremendously *** Somebody doesn't know their greek mythology. Oh well.

Martin VanBuren GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.08.25 19:32:00 - [191] Originally by: Laird Originally by: Martin VanBuren Originally by: Laird A hell of a ship and a hell of a run. I suggest the replacement is called either Hebe, Ares or Eileithyia. Or maybe something that isn't tremendously *** Somebody doesn't know their greek mythology. Oh well. Yeah dude naming your ship Torch of Heracles or Chorus of God really makes you an intellectual gentlemen and a man of distinguished tastes. Surely, 3000 years ago when the Greeks were working out which god turned into what and raped who they were secretly hoping, deep within themselves, that someday an internet nerd would name his assembly of e-code and textures after one of their stories. Just name it Wreckless or Bismark or Don DeLillo and get it over with.
steamy The Littlest Hobos Betrayal Under Mayhem	Posted - 2007.08.25 20:17:00 - [192] Edited by: steamy on 25/08/2007 20:17:20 respect, for the way Hera was used, and hopw the loss is taken. Btw Rawthorn, Ill buy you 2 GT's next time we meet, one for giggles, one to forget the last few months Steamy
Dionisius Gallente The School of Fine Art	Posted - 2007.08.25 20:24:00 - [193] Man respect to HERA for the good moments it gave you guys. _______________________ Originally by: Splagada Edited by: Splagada on 21/06/2007 13:51:39 in eve you can break their windows, take over the house, and throw the children in the fire.
INZi coracao ardente	Posted - 2007.08.25 20:27:00 - [194] rest in peace hera. and est the true born pies. big up. i can imagine the internal drama over the wreck thou: "XXX GET OF ZEE WRECK!!!! EIHH XXXXX GET OOOOOF ZEEEE WRECK!!!!!!" "OMG! LOOTZ MIZZINGZ!!!" ".." bring back honour est, new mom please
Snowden Vel GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.08.25 21:33:00 - [195] Originally by: gimmemoneyhoney kinda weird isnt it....even Infod had more respect for that blue is blue than the big alliances like red and xxdeath. they seem like a bunch of loose-cannons looking for eve-o forum cheastbeating kill stuff. Even ED and INFOD is bitter enemys infod still holded their packt..not trying to kill the neutral freighters, since some days before EST was set to blue for a short periode, after the freighter inicodent , some days before. RA even reaviled their Titan , inc type and titan pilot to kill a "nuetral" ms(which was helping blues) and blue freighters ues, while been in heavy war with Bob. its says something about the trustworthy lv on those guys. same as blues in RA space now and then get shoot by triggerhappy RAs You can spin until you're dizzy but there's no reason for RED and XIX to not shoot the Establishment. They're not cuddly carebears and they're certainly not friendly to RED and OHGOD. If ED wants to pal around with them and loan them freighters, that's their risk, particularly since they didn't exactly advertise that to their blues until EST was under the gun, at which point it reeks of bull****. Signature removed - please email us to find out why (include a link) - Jacques([email protected])
JediLover MASS	Posted - 2007.08.25 21:39:00 - [196] Salute Establishment and RIP Hera.
Ur235 Infinitus Odium The Church.	Posted - 2007.08.25 21:46:00 - [197] Have the Noobtastic and Blobarific goons stopped posting yet?
Setana Manoro Gallente Firefly Inc.	Posted - 2007.08.25 22:17:00 - [198] Edited by: Setana Manoro on 25/08/2007 22:21:51 Edited by: Setana Manoro on 25/08/2007 22:18:26 Originally by: Martin VanBuren Originally by: Laird Originally by: Martin VanBuren Originally by: Laird A hell of a ship and a hell of a run. I suggest the replacement is called either Hebe, Ares or Eileithyia. Or maybe something that isn't tremendously *** Somebody doesn't know their greek mythology. Oh well. Yeah dude naming your ship Torch of Heracles or Chorus of God really makes you an intellectual gentlemen and a man of distinguished tastes. Surely, 3000 years ago when the Greeks were working out which god turned into what and raped who they were secretly hoping, deep within themselves, that someday an internet nerd would name his assembly of e-code and textures after one of their stories. Just name it Wreckless or Bismark or Don DeLillo and get it over with. Nice lecture about naming. I'm sure 3000 years ago, the greeks were circle-jirking about the fact that some time later someone will build a god-awfull concrete Pantheon in a far away land with cities such as Athens of Georgia, or maybe the mighty Athens of Ohio with the whopping population of 21000. Let us not forget the capital of intellectual culture that is Amsterdam of New York, population 18000 intellectual souls full of rich heritage that spawns 3 generations of frogs. Oh yes, a lesson about circle-jirking to the name of a greek goddess is very welcomed from the people with such proud, traditions that have been enduring from "we wasted the indians" to "now". :) Oh, and sad to see Hera going down like that but chatting with local about how you are helping is close to stupidity. You should have contacte the russians and the goons, but considering how decrepit russian diplomacy is ... doubt you would of had much success there. Goons probably would have lured you into a trap and would of make a circle-jirking about it. PS: Here's a chorus with a rich heritage. No pun intended, 40 years old and still going strong. I'm not neutral in RAGOON vs BOB, I just dislike both sides. :)
Orangir GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.08.25 22:35:00 - [199] Originally by: Setana Manoro Nice lecture about naming. I'm sure 3000 years ago, the greeks were circle-jirking about the fact that some time later someone will build a god-awfull concrete Pantheon in a far away land with cities such as Athens of Georgia, or maybe the mighty Athens of Ohio with the whopping population of 21000. Let us not forget the capital of intellectual culture that is Amsterdam of New York, population 18000 intellectual souls full of rich heritage that spawns 3 generations of frogs. Oh yes, a lesson about circle-jirking to the name of a greek goddess is very welcomed from the people with such proud, traditions that have been enduring from "we wasted the indians" to "now". :) Ahahahaha, what the hell inspired this anti-American rant? You must've been looking for a reason to rage against those good for nothing yankees for awhile now, eh?
Thargat Caldari S-44	Posted - 2007.08.25 23:36:00 - [200] I still claim that Athena is a good name... :) There's only one sig that matters... and that's Radius.

Ralian Gelain Gallente Best Path Inc. Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2007.08.25 23:45:00 - [201] The Establishment were approached by ED to assist in a project to forward our alliance. The nature of the project is not important other than standings were never forgotten and no intention or plan to undermine anyone allied to ED ever entered out thoughts. ED has lost assets to people we view with much respect but **** happens. Not the first time we have lost assets to people we called friends other than this time we hope we remain friends. The agreement between Ethereal Dawn and The Establishment was honoured without question or thought of risk. They did what many of us could not do and take it on the chin in our eyes they are the closest thing to legends in EVE than anyone before them. We can not give them anymore respect because they have it all already. That in mind is the whole reason for the agreement; we want to learn from the best in an area we really want to be good at. This thinking may never sit right on a political landscape but should not be assumed as back stabbing. Much Respect goes out to Hera, and the pilots that fell in this engagement. I have to say having a titan jumped on top of you is definatly a hell of a way to go down for a mothership..
Superbus Maximus Gallente Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.08.26 00:12:00 - [202] Sad to see it go down. I kinda wanted to take a ***** at her some day. Never got the chance to fight against that that nyx but I did see est use it in action before. You stole my isk farmer kills
Goberth Ludwig eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.08.26 00:20:00 - [203] Ah !! =( Hera truly was a legend but I am sure Est. doesnt end here - Gob Stealth bombers work!
Cringeley GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.08.26 00:21:00 - [204] Originally by: Setana Manoro PS: Here's a chorus with a rich heritage. No pun intended, 40 years old and still going strong. What is this link to a non-existant wiki article supposed to signify? That you hate America because it harbours homosexuals? That doesn't seem very enlightened. And let's not even get started on the guy doing the "hilarious" accents a few posts up.
Martin VanBuren GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.08.26 00:26:00 - [205] Originally by: Setana Manoro Edited by: Setana Manoro on 25/08/2007 22:21:51 Edited by: Setana Manoro on 25/08/2007 22:18:26 Originally by: Martin VanBuren Originally by: Laird Originally by: Martin VanBuren Originally by: Laird A hell of a ship and a hell of a run. I suggest the replacement is called either Hebe, Ares or Eileithyia. Or maybe something that isn't tremendously *** Somebody doesn't know their greek mythology. Oh well. Yeah dude naming your ship Torch of Heracles or Chorus of God really makes you an intellectual gentlemen and a man of distinguished tastes. Surely, 3000 years ago when the Greeks were working out which god turned into what and raped who they were secretly hoping, deep within themselves, that someday an internet nerd would name his assembly of e-code and textures after one of their stories. Just name it Wreckless or Bismark or Don DeLillo and get it over with. Nice lecture about naming. I'm sure 3000 years ago, the greeks were circle-jirking about the fact that some time later someone will build a god-awfull concrete Pantheon in a far away land with cities such as Athens of Georgia, or maybe the mighty Athens of Ohio with the whopping population of 21000. Let us not forget the capital of intellectual culture that is Amsterdam of New York, population 18000 intellectual souls full of rich heritage that spawns 3 generations of frogs. Oh yes, a lesson about circle-jirking to the name of a greek goddess is very welcomed from the people with such proud, traditions that have been enduring from "we wasted the indians" to "now". :) Oh, and sad to see Hera going down like that but chatting with local about how you are helping is close to stupidity. You should have contacte the russians and the goons, but considering how decrepit russian diplomacy is ... doubt you would of had much success there. Goons probably would have lured you into a trap and would of make a circle-jirking about it. PS: Here's a chorus with a rich heritage. No pun intended, 40 years old and still going strong. Man I do not even know if you are dis-agreeing with me.
Etto Neppeo ENACO	Posted - 2007.08.26 00:36:00 - [206] Edited by: Etto Neppeo on 26/08/2007 00:39:59 bob alts are so active here and so pro-est, that the whole deal almost looks like blackmail attempt.
UGWidowmaker Caldari The Ankou The Reckoning.	Posted - 2007.08.26 01:10:00 - [207] shame for you. that ms was ownagde... 0/ OMFG I am the widowmaker stay tuned.
duckmonster GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.08.26 01:28:00 - [208] I hope you guys get a new one, or a titan, or something, because pirating lowsec in a Mothership sounds like a heck of a lot of fun. Poor hera :( ----------- HI IM DUCKMONSTER
Berrik Radhok GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.08.26 04:35:00 - [209] rub a dub dub roofle owned scrubs also stop acting so butt hurt ED you did something dumb and got burned next time ask your friends for help instead of their enemies Originally by: Khavi Vetali Oh don't worry, the goons are just as suicidal with their battleships as they are with their frigates.
Tyrrax Thorrk Amarr Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.08.26 05:52:00 - [210] Originally by: Stackz Why dont ya ask Tyraxx how he made his Aeon magically disappear when it was bubbled and on the verge of destruction? Cough, Cough logoff exploit, cough. hi FIX idiot, ctd before anyone aggros and then logging a char on a different account in to check for a wreck is an exploit how ? Please explain. Btw even if you log an alt on same account on after ctd it has zero effect and you don't disappear if you have aggro, test it sometime and then explain to me how I used it. Go petition me some more, maybe you'll find a gm ******** enough to believe you On topic; Ethereal Dawn are to blame for this loss for thinking spamming crap in local equals sorting standings. EST are to blame for letting incompetents handle standings for them and foolishly jumping their mothership in on russians to remote rep freighters (lol) I was always under impression ED were goon pets, really doubt they'd be blue to any of the russians if goons hadn't asked for standings for them, I remember refusing to blue them when I was asked to set them from red to blue, nobody seemed to care particularly or pursue the point. GJ using your mothership actively and aggressively for a long time, eventually you got sloppy and died, there was no backstab. http://eve.klaki.net/

Viper ShizzIe Coreli Corporation Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.08.26 07:04:00 - [211] Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Go petition me some more, maybe you'll find a gm ****** enough to believe you No GM is that ******, and that's saying something.
Algey The Littlest Hobos Betrayal Under Mayhem	Posted - 2007.08.26 07:57:00 - [212] Originally by: Orangir Originally by: Algey Fearsome war machine or pile of crap lowsec pirate, I just can't figure these goons out... stop posting I should really, you guys seem to be running three different contradictory arguments which makes this a waste of effort.
Orangir GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.08.26 08:39:00 - [213] Edited by: Orangir on 26/08/2007 08:39:31 Originally by: Algey I should really, you guys seem to be running three different contradictory arguments which makes this a waste of effort. I was talking to a BUM member last night and he said that goons are actually really cool and that he likes us. Your alliance seems to be running contradictory arguments which makes this a waste of effort.
nync UA Industry Red Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.26 10:18:00 - [214] Edited by: nync on 26/08/2007 10:21:28 Originally by: Rawthorm Edited by: Rawthorm on 25/08/2007 15:28:12 I do feel I need to clarfiy something here (despite that it wont change a thing) I'm not so much bothered that xxdeathxx and RA attacked us. We've ****ed off alot of people, as being a pirate tends to do that. Hera's eventual death was inevitable. What I am bothered about, is that they cost their own allies (Ethreal Dawn) considerable loss just to get a shot at killing Hera. They knew we had ED property on board yet they set us up and went ahead with it regardless. You can put all the spin you want on it but the fact remains you wantedly destroyed your own allies property to get to us, and with not so much as an apology or an offer of re-imbersement. THAT is what I have a problem with. Stop crying in space, noone can hear you. You are -10 to RA, you always been and you always will be. Noone backstabed you, don't try to be a drama queen, it doesn't suits you right. ED are not our allies, we set them blue cos of GS request only. They never contacted us in order to inform about est helping them. Also you are crying about desync as every ms pilot who loses ms, but somehow you managed to take down 4 out of 6 our dictors one by one and only remout repping from 4 carriers saved remaining 2. Spin that as you wish.
Irob Urore Amarr Imperial Academy	Posted - 2007.08.26 10:24:00 - [215] rust in peace, hera, you had a good run. you will be forever remembered by the eve community as a mothership, nyx class flown by someone somewhere and dying somehow.
Jakiri GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.08.26 10:25:00 - [216] Edited by: Jakiri on 26/08/2007 10:25:34 Edited by: Jakiri on 26/08/2007 10:25:16 Originally by: Setana Manoro Nice lecture about naming. I'm sure 3000 years ago, the greeks were circle-jirking about the fact that some time later someone will build a god-awfull concrete Pantheon in a far away land with cities such as Athens of Georgia, or maybe the mighty Athens of Ohio with the whopping population of 21000. Let us not forget the capital of intellectual culture that is Amsterdam of New York, population 18000 intellectual souls full of rich heritage that spawns 3 generations of frogs. I'm not sure why you're focusing on America here, given that this trend is pretty visable within most countries. County Durham, in the north east of England, has a village called Quebec, named for the Canadian province. It has the Penshaw Monument, a half-sized replica of the Temple of Hephaestus. On the flip side, there's a Durham in New England, and as far as I'm aware George Washington's name, and thus Washington DC's name, originated from the town of Washington that lies in nearby Tyne and Wear. And it's not clear if you agree or disagree with him.
Helen STK Scientific M. PIRE	Posted - 2007.08.26 10:37:00 - [217] She had a bloody good run did Hera, hope you guys jump in a new one soon. STK providing Mothership deaths since 2007
Snowden Vel GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.08.26 10:51:00 - [218] Originally by: Algey I should really, you guys seem to be running three different contradictory arguments which makes this a waste of effort. If you can't handle the concept of varying opinions on a topic then there's not much hope for you. Signature removed - please email us to find out why (include a link) - Jacques([email protected])
Maggot Minmatar Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.08.26 10:53:00 - [219] During the pirate siege of 9UY over a year ago I used to have frequent dreams about Hera. None of them was in an Eve setting. I think the most bizzare was the one when it flew down over my street whilst I was washing the car and everyone ran for cover indoors whilst it smartbombed those that were too slow to get their fat arses safe. EST have my everlasting respect for the way they flew the best looking ship in Eve. RIP Maggot.
Setana Manoro Gallente Firefly Inc.	Posted - 2007.08.26 11:31:00 - [220] Edited by: Setana Manoro on 26/08/2007 11:31:17 Originally by: Cringeley Originally by: Setana Manoro PS: Here's a chorus with a rich heritage. No pun intended, 40 years old and still going strong. What is this link to a non-existant wiki article supposed to signify? That you hate America because it harbours homosexuals? That doesn't seem very enlightened. And let's not even get started on the guy doing the "hilarious" accents a few posts up. It's a chorus ... it was linked somewhere and i picked it up. Don't tell me that putting a link to a chorus on the internets, that happens to be named "San Francisco *** Men's Chorus" shows that "That you hate America because it harbours homosexuals?". I'm not neutral in RAGOON vs BOB, I just dislike both sides. :)

Setana Manoro Gallente Firefly Inc.	Posted - 2007.08.26 11:33:00 - [221] Originally by: Martin VanBuren Originally by: Setana Manoro Edited by: Setana Manoro on 25/08/2007 22:21:51 Edited by: Setana Manoro on 25/08/2007 22:18:26 Originally by: Martin VanBuren Originally by: Laird Originally by: Martin VanBuren Originally by: Laird A hell of a ship and a hell of a run. I suggest the replacement is called either Hebe, Ares or Eileithyia. Or maybe something that isn't tremendously *** Somebody doesn't know their greek mythology. Oh well. Yeah dude naming your ship Torch of Heracles or Chorus of God really makes you an intellectual gentlemen and a man of distinguished tastes. Surely, 3000 years ago when the Greeks were working out which god turned into what and raped who they were secretly hoping, deep within themselves, that someday an internet nerd would name his assembly of e-code and textures after one of their stories. Just name it Wreckless or Bismark or Don DeLillo and get it over with. Nice lecture about naming. I'm sure 3000 years ago, the greeks were circle-jirking about the fact that some time later someone will build a god-awfull concrete Pantheon in a far away land with cities such as Athens of Georgia, or maybe the mighty Athens of Ohio with the whopping population of 21000. Let us not forget the capital of intellectual culture that is Amsterdam of New York, population 18000 intellectual souls full of rich heritage that spawns 3 generations of frogs. Oh yes, a lesson about circle-jirking to the name of a greek goddess is very welcomed from the people with such proud, traditions that have been enduring from "we wasted the indians" to "now". :) Oh, and sad to see Hera going down like that but chatting with local about how you are helping is close to stupidity. You should have contacte the russians and the goons, but considering how decrepit russian diplomacy is ... doubt you would of had much success there. Goons probably would have lured you into a trap and would of make a circle-jirking about it. PS: Here's a chorus with a rich heritage. No pun intended, 40 years old and still going strong. Man I do not even know if you are dis-agreeing with me. I'm dis-agreeing with you, though that hardly is the point of my post. I'm not neutral in RAGOON vs BOB, I just dislike both sides. :)
Ione Hunt 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.08.26 12:28:00 - [222] That ship lived to fight, and died fighting...what more can you want? Respect for using that ship as it's supposed to be used! _______________
Antion Gallente Koshaku Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.08.26 14:14:00 - [223] Sad to see her go, but i'm sure you guys will be in another soon enough, then we'll all fear once again. ------------------- Director, KAZO
Berrik Radhok GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.08.26 14:18:00 - [224] Originally by: Setana Manoro I'm dis-agreeing with you, though that hardly is the point of my post. you are the only one who can tell what the point of that post is Originally by: Khavi Vetali Oh don't worry, the goons are just as suicidal with their battleships as they are with their frigates.
Setana Manoro Gallente Firefly Inc.	Posted - 2007.08.26 15:03:00 - [225] Originally by: Berrik Radhok Originally by: Setana Manoro I'm dis-agreeing with you, though that hardly is the point of my post. you are the only one who can tell what the point of that post is The point of my post can be understood by reading the entire thread, and then my post. I'm sorry that your reading skills are limited while your "smart response" skills are maxed out. Maybe you should ... start reading ? I'm not neutral in RAGOON vs BOB, I just dislike both sides. :)
Orangir GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.08.26 18:10:00 - [226] Originally by: Setana Manoro The point of my post can be understood by reading the entire thread, and then my post. I'm sorry that your reading skills are limited while your "smart response" skills are maxed out. Maybe you should ... start reading ? Don't you guys see? Setana is a cultured, intelligent, European gentleman while us goons are obviously all uneducated American slobs who have a long history of killing people unjustly and being stupid just for the hell of it. If you're so DUMB that you can't see that well, maybe you should start reading instead of taking the typical American response, you uncultured swine.
Tyrrhena Maxus Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.08.26 18:19:00 - [227] Originally by: nync Stop crying in space, noone can hear you. You are -10 to RA, you always been and you always will be. Noone backstabed you, don't try to be a drama queen, it doesn't suits you right. ED are not our allies, we set them blue cos of GS request only. They never contacted us in order to inform about est helping them. Also you are crying about desync as every ms pilot who loses ms, but somehow you managed to take down 4 out of 6 our dictors one by one and only remout repping from 4 carriers saved remaining 2. Spin that as you wish. quoting an epic burn Originally by: Algey I should really, you guys seem to be running three different contradictory arguments which makes this a waste of effort. MUCH LIKE YOUR POSTING
Martin VanBuren GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.08.26 18:58:00 - [228] Originally by: Orangir Originally by: Setana Manoro The point of my post can be understood by reading the entire thread, and then my post. I'm sorry that your reading skills are limited while your "smart response" skills are maxed out. Maybe you should ... start reading ? Don't you guys see? Setana is a cultured, intelligent, European gentleman while us goons are obviously all uneducated American slobs who have a long history of killing people unjustly and being stupid just for the hell of it. If you're so DUMB that you can't see that well, maybe you should start reading instead of taking the typical American response, you uncultured swine. In all honesty I do sort of wish our national bird was the turkey, the eagle is too generically European. We should have something interesting and uniquely American, dammit, not some tired old symbol of imperial ambition.
Zaphod Jones Minmatar Infinitus Odium The Church.	Posted - 2007.08.26 20:33:00 - [229] WHEN the establishment get a new mom (and I'm sure that ED will be building one quite soon - or they damn well ought to be) how about calling it... Aether "The personification of the pure upper air in which the gods reside, in contrary to the 'aer', the lower air which mortals breathe. In the early Greek cosmologies, Aether is the son of Erebus and Nyx, and the brother of Hemera. He is one of the elements of the cosmos and in the Orphic hymns he is mentioned as the soul of the world from which all life emanates."
Sammell Amarr The Nova Foundation	Posted - 2007.08.26 22:01:00 - [230] Good show stickin to your guns and going down swinging when there was no way out

Varheg Xan The Graduates Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2007.08.27 00:00:00 - [231] I enjoyed reading the stories about Hera. That's what makes it more than just a ship to the Eve fans out there that can only dream of using a ship like that. Good job fighting to the end. o7
Algey The Littlest Hobos Betrayal Under Mayhem	Posted - 2007.08.27 00:35:00 - [232] Originally by: Orangir Edited by: Orangir on 26/08/2007 08:39:31 Originally by: Algey I should really, you guys seem to be running three different contradictory arguments which makes this a waste of effort. I was talking to a BUM member last night and he said that goons are actually really cool and that he likes us. Your alliance seems to be running contradictory arguments which makes this a waste of effort. Hardly the same now is it Sadly listening to you guys detracts from remembering hiding in a pos while Hera proweled outside of it, totally invulnerable to our firepower and smartbombing anyone stupid enough to go to the edge near her during the 9UY siege. It is a shame they are so common now.
Sykosys Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.08.27 04:51:00 - [233] R.I.P. To an awesome ship. I remember looking at the ship scan and seeing the wonderful smartbombs equipped. . . She had a good run!! Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes - Devil ([email protected])
Tainted OrPHeN Caldari The Black Rabbits	Posted - 2007.08.27 07:03:00 - [234] RIP Hera, you managed to claim my first battleship loss in a long long time To Hera #2 Goodluck
Freya Selene Infinitus Odium The Church.	Posted - 2007.08.27 07:53:00 - [235] RIP Hera, used for what it is supposed to do. @Goons, Russians (included xdeathx or voodoo) Russian space? Iam suppriced they dared to stay outside the bubble for a change. Seeing they used a Titan that far away from the big war, its not hard to assume it indeed where a trap.
Galor Cracken The first genesis Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2007.08.27 09:52:00 - [236] thats what you get for helping RaGoon and their allies, they will always f*** you over and blame it on crappy standings or some other lame excuse. I always admired the way you folks used Hera to it's fullest capabilities. A ship that truely deserves it's legendary place in eve history. I hope to see Hera II soon.
Starfall Hammer Starfall Industries	Posted - 2007.08.27 11:00:00 - [237] Originally by: Galor ***en I always admired the way you folks used Hera to it's fullest capabilities. A ship that truely deserves it's legendary place in eve history. I hope to see Hera II soon. What are you talking about? Mostly they used it to gank people in lo sec where it had zero risk of ever getting destroyed or into a sticky situation it could not very very easily get out of.
Splagada Minmatar Tides of Silence Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.27 11:15:00 - [238] Originally by: Starfall Hammer Originally by: Galor ***en I always admired the way you folks used Hera to it's fullest capabilities. A ship that truely deserves it's legendary place in eve history. I hope to see Hera II soon. What are you talking about? Mostly they used it to gank people in lo sec where it had zero risk of ever getting destroyed or into a sticky situation it could not very very easily get out of. not really lol. in my eve life i saw twice hera sitting alone in front of a hostile station just cause he could. once he escaped after clearing the system, second time he escaped with a few scratches, but after clearing most of the sys. igno is a skilled pilot, the toy alone doesnt make all ------ Proud Janitor of Tides of Silence
Galor Cracken The first genesis Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2007.08.27 11:21:00 - [239] Hera was used in 0.0 space too. They payed us a couple of visits in 20-EEW (Immensea) when our corp was in Myriad and we owned this station.
Komaito Re-Awakened Technologies Inc	Posted - 2007.08.27 11:37:00 - [240] Originally by: Martin VanBuren Originally by: Orangir Originally by: Setana Manoro The point of my post can be understood by reading the entire thread, and then my post. I'm sorry that your reading skills are limited while your "smart response" skills are maxed out. Maybe you should ... start reading ? Don't you guys see? Setana is a cultured, intelligent, European gentleman while us goons are obviously all uneducated American slobs who have a long history of killing people unjustly and being stupid just for the hell of it. If you're so DUMB that you can't see that well, maybe you should start reading instead of taking the typical American response, you uncultured swine. In all honesty I do sort of wish our national bird was the turkey, the eagle is too generically European. We should have something interesting and uniquely American, dammit, not some tired old symbol of imperial ambition. The Bald Eagle is American. ------------------------------------ radiation... too much radiation...

Oli4Oli4 Viper Squad Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.08.27 11:57:00 - [241] as cliche as it might be RIP hera
Ironnight Caldari x13	Posted - 2007.08.27 14:05:00 - [242] RIP Remember to enjoy the revenge!
MEP3ABEC Caldari Red Assault Brigades United Legion	Posted - 2007.08.27 16:49:00 - [243] This is for my raven I lost one year ago :) buagaga :) Please keep your signature below the 24000 bytes limit.- Thx Pirlouit
Starfall Hammer Starfall Industries	Posted - 2007.08.27 17:42:00 - [244] Originally by: Splagada Originally by: Starfall Hammer Originally by: Galor ***en I always admired the way you folks used Hera to it's fullest capabilities. A ship that truely deserves it's legendary place in eve history. I hope to see Hera II soon. What are you talking about? Mostly they used it to gank people in lo sec where it had zero risk of ever getting destroyed or into a sticky situation it could not very very easily get out of. not really lol. in my eve life i saw twice hera sitting alone in front of a hostile station just cause he could. once he escaped after clearing the system, second time he escaped with a few scratches, but after clearing most of the sys. igno is a skilled pilot, the toy alone doesnt make all Yes really. I suggest you go look at their killboard and look at the actual kills on it. You will not see too many epic battles there but you willl see a ton of lone BS and hauelrs getting ganked.
Popsikle Minmatar Re-Awakened Technologies Inc Electus Matari	Posted - 2007.08.27 17:52:00 - [245] Originally by: Maggot During the pirate siege of 9UY over a year ago I used to have frequent dreams about Hera. None of them was in an Eve setting. I think the most bizzare was the one when it flew down over my street whilst I was washing the car and everyone ran for cover indoors whilst it smartbombed those that were too slow to get their fat arses safe. EST have my everlasting respect for the way they flew the best looking ship in Eve. RIP Maggot. Thats deep dude. ____ <t20> i want to be in a manager potition at Hooters <SaraDawn> Garthagk, do you have it up ? <Garthagk> I can get it up anytime.
Druadan Gallente Aristotle Enterprises Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2007.08.27 19:06:00 - [246] Well this was quite a piece of news to get back from vacation to read. I guess the only thing I can say is, ''***** *s.'' ### I nearly finish carriers, and they nerf it. I nearly finish Amarr recons, and they make them useless. Vagabond pilots beware... I have bought Minmatar Cruiser.*
Dahin Maza Nostra oooh Shiny	Posted - 2007.08.28 00:28:00 - [247] I still remember trying to catch hera in her supersafe in the taisy area for 6 hours straight... Ahhh, I'm sad that this ship died in an engagement that I did not participate.
Amantus Gallente Murientor Tribe	Posted - 2007.08.28 01:59:00 - [248] Edited by: Amantus on 28/08/2007 01:59:20 A tragic loss. My first major loss in the game (my brutix) was at the hands of Hera. It's no surprise Hera lasted this long: Rawthorm piloted her absolutely flawlessly. It was a pleasure both flying with and against Hera. Amantus ------------
Wendat Huron Stellar Solutions	Posted - 2007.08.28 02:56:00 - [249] How many kills did that mothership get?
FireFox McProwler Caldari Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.08.28 03:37:00 - [250] AHH MOTHERLAND AXE is looking for members!! Clicky for info.

Vandamsel Gallente Dark Star LTD Dogs of War.	Posted - 2007.08.28 03:41:00 - [251] You jinxed her my making the post about her birthday , R.I.P Hera
DeckardIRL The Randoms THE V I G I L	Posted - 2007.08.28 11:34:00 - [252] Originally by: Vandamsel You jinxed her my making the post about her birthday , R.I.P Hera Its ironic, but that post was necro'd if you bother to look at the dates. Strange that it was necro'd and within a week Hera was dead Deck Whiskey For CAOD at its best
Neuromotor	Posted - 2007.08.28 12:12:00 - [253] who was the noob in that mothership ?
rotweiler Gallente United Warriors Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.08.28 14:01:00 - [254] Respect to Hera and Ign0ramus, I had many fun encounters with her fighters back in U'K' space flying under Spiderweb's skin. I will never forget the tanking test marathons vs her fighters outside Unity (now a sad reminder of the death of RP in the hands of CVA). Respect to EST. You guys were true gentlemen when it came to PVP execution. Cloaks, ambushes, quick cyno traps you name it, EST were always an intelligent and unconventional force. R.I.P. Hera, you fought you died you live in History
Pinpisa Jormao	Posted - 2007.08.28 20:40:00 - [255] Lets think about this rationally: Would YOU hire a notorious well known pirate entity to move billions of your stuff? A sane person would think they'd nick the content and pod you for much less. EST&ED deserved to lose whatever they lost for scheming this type of deal behind the backs of their friends and neighbours and this now leaves open the question of whether there's some closer involvement between the two, something that everyone should be aware of when dealing with ED in the future.
Turix Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.08.28 21:30:00 - [256] Edited by: Turix on 28/08/2007 21:29:57 Originally by: lofty29 Originally by: Turix And yet another Supercap lost to a desync - i belive we have a problem Desync or not, it was dead when they dropped carriers + bs on it... I not saying it wasnt Just saying that the fact he got de-synced at all, is a failure on CCP's part and a problem that needs to be top priority over anything, Trinity II or Rev 3.0. \| Image Hosting \| My Movies \|
Lanu Caldari	Posted - 2007.08.28 23:26:00 - [257] They better frapsed it! Too bad on losing Hera it was one of the only ships I've ever been so scared for. When I saw that arazu jump in I was the first to start bashing on the warp out button Congrats to the RA capitals and dictors you did it once again __________________ I'm not obsessing. I'm just curious.
Danari Amarr Viper Squad Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.08.30 04:52:00 - [258] Originally by: Starfall Hammer Originally by: Galor ***en I always admired the way you folks used Hera to it's fullest capabilities. A ship that truely deserves it's legendary place in eve history. I hope to see Hera II soon. What are you talking about? Mostly they used it to gank people in lo sec where it had zero risk of ever getting destroyed or into a sticky situation it could not very very easily get out of. What in the hell are YOU talking about? Taking the fights as they come obviously includes taking the easy wins. Est are one of the groups widely known for not walking away from tough fights.
Fuglife The Illuminati. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.08.30 11:36:00 - [259] Is it just me that thinks saying R.I.P and speaches about how a ship will live in memory is slightly ***?


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