Personally I think there are a few things I would like to see...

1. Rewards other than VP for Plexing. Maybe the value of the equivalent FW mission level in LP spread across those in the plex
when it Flips. I.E. a major plex is worth 25-30k in and that spread across the group active in the plex at the same time. Defenders and offenders would earn LP.

Advantages - The biggest complaint currently I see for new people joining FW is that hey don't have income to support the replacement of ships. Rewards for plexes would help with this.

I'm sure there are disadvantages although happy to discuss here.

2. Making FW missions contribute to the capture of the system. In the scheme of things I would think killing a field commander should weaken a system. I also then think missions should be specific for whether the system is being defended or attacked and will be determined by the current occupier. So yes that means in theory missions for Minmatar could spawn in Minmatar territory that is currently contested.

I think the rewards should lie in holding occupancy, not giving a bit of monetary income for farming a single plex. It should be "big picture" types of rewards.

I disagree here. If one side gets overpowered and organized and manages to hold all space, I'd like the other side to still have some incentive to keep up the guerilla warfare in plexes and not just have people join the winning side cause they can sit there and make money from "holding" space.

So a man who sanctions rl death threats over a video game has the decency to make a claim he is in FW for "good fites".
I wonder if anyone outside his own corporation believes that crap...

Regarding #1: It is possible for new players to support their pew pew habits already. You can train for a basic AML caracal to begin running the level 3's (at least for caldari). It's what I did when I joined the militia years ago. Most of these players don't realize they can dispatch a single BC rat with the tank equivilance of a rat they find on a gate or in a belt to get easy income. It's not as profitable as the level 4's, but when all you fly is t1 cruisers and dessies, you can easily support a weeks worth of ship losses with a couple hours of missioning with level 3's. Now that's not to say there shouldn't be rewards for plexing, there should be some sort of incentive for occupancy. I think the rewards should lie in holding occupancy, not giving a bit of monetary income for farming a single plex. It should be "big picture" types of rewards.

Welcome back to the Gallente side of space btw.

/On topic: I hope that we can get Hans in the CSM. We'll get proper representation at that point for sure.

And i'll never vote for Hans because of the thing he said years ago when PERVS demonstrated the standings issue bug (invented by gallentes) and how it worked in practice. He was making us the bad guys when he should have attacked Val Erian and Ankh instead.

I disagree here. If one side gets overpowered and organized and manages to hold all space, I'd like the other side to still have some incentive to keep up the guerilla warfare in plexes and not just have people join the winning side cause they can sit there and make money from "holding" space.

I disagree here. If one side gets overpowered and organized and manages to hold all space, I'd like the other side to still have some incentive to keep up the guerilla warfare in plexes and not just have people join the winning side cause they can sit there and make money from "holding" space.

Any fix would require some form of additional reward for factions that are not doing well. The biggest problem with the missions vs. plexes is that missions are basically just something that promotes afk mission alts to ***** all the missions with little to no initiative to fight in the area. I'd say 75 to 90% of all FW missions are run by people with no desire/want to be involved in the pvp aspect of FW (which in and of itself is not that big of a problem). As I understand it, the whole point of the FW missions was to A) promote conflict, and B) allow pvpers access to funds to replace their losses. Neither of these goals is adequately met by FW missions. Plexing needs to hold a stronger benefit/cost for pilots because they generally drive conflict much better.

Just my .2 isk.

Yeah, I think they could do a couple things to make the missions riskier. 1) Make all of them ungated - so people can warp directly on top of you, and 2) make them harder so people need bigger (slower) ships to do them.

And as someone said before - giving LP for capping plexes would help. Is there a way to divide it by the number of ships that cap it?

Yeah, I think they could do a couple things to make the missions riskier. 1) Make all of them ungated - so people can warp directly on top of you, and 2) make them harder so people need bigger (slower) ships to do them.

And as someone said before - giving LP for capping plexes would help. Is there a way to divide it by the number of ships that cap it?

Yeah, big question here. Emphasis on individual plexes will make plex farming a main feature of FW. Guys looking for fights will be disappointed when targets bail and the only way to "grief" targets will be to... hang out in system forever while the targets cloak up afk. If you thought griefing mission runners was painful, how about griefing plexers who just sit idly by until next plex comes up in 40 minutes, or moves to next empty system to run a plex.

Right now the casual player can keep himself in T1 pvp ships (especially the destroyers that are so common nowadays) by looting tags in plexes, but the players never seem to spend the time collecting tags from wrecks. ...

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I'm not sure how the fighting is down in Amarr vs Minmatar at the moment, but up on the Caldari vs Gallente side there is a lot of actual fighting over the plexes as it was originally intended by CCP.

It would valuable to hear some first hand reasons on why this is the case.

The thing is most of your suggestions would pretty much kill Caldari's ability to fight gals blobs for the plexes, because most of your ideas are focused around pushing the fight to a specific location rather than allowing ability to do more guerrilla warfare using smaller numbers.

The fact that has always been consistent with FW as long as I've been in it, is one side is always more buffed up than the other. It's pretty rare to see both side equally matched up on a day to day basis for any length of time. Sooner or later one side always gains the advantage with the numbers thing.

This means any sort of plex mechanic that focuses the fighting to specific areas or rewards even more for blobbing, will hurt the fighting and eventually make people not bother fighting over them. IMO we don't need a reason other than the PVP to fight over the plexes. Giving some sort of system control bonus will just encourage blobbing out the other side to gain those advantages.

It would valuable to hear some first hand reasons on why this is the case.

I think it's mainly due to you Gallente TBH.. Caldari has always had guys out plexing and so on with Dalmer and others but for what ever reason you guys finally decided to start taking systems while Caldari was mostly AFK.

I can remember time of going to Heydieles or Nisuwa with a Thrasher & popping open a minor with loads of Gallente in system only to watch the timer tick down with out as much of even a curiosity call from some FoTM guy in a Dramiel. I dunno what changed but for what ever reason, you guys are now willing to fight in plexes and now we are actually fighting in plexes instead of chasing away 1 week old noobs in vigils, atron & condors..

I think it's mainly due to you Gallente TBH.. Caldari has always had guys out plexing and so on with Dalmer and others but for what ever reason you guys finally decided to start taking systems while Caldari was mostly AFK.

I can remember time of going to Heydieles or Nisuwa with a Thrasher & popping open a minor with loads of Gallente in system only to watch the timer tick down with out as much of even a curiosity call from some FoTM guy in a Dramiel. I dunno what changed but for what ever reason, you guys are now willing to fight in plexes and now we are actually fighting in plexes instead of chasing away 1 week old noobs in vigils, atron & condors..