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Possessed Clown
Amarr
Spiced Wine Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.09.27 21:53:00 -
[91]
 Originally by: Fergus Runkle
What about those of us that don't have broadband and can't get it (due to location)
Even 1gig over dial up will be glacial especially in the UK where ISP's kick you after 2, 4 or 6 hours online.
How did you get eve then its like 700mbs....
Their only doubling the size, so what ever it takes to download now double that.
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Arana Tellen
Gallente
The Blackguard Wolves
Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2007.09.27 22:03:00 -
[92]
Bulldog 16mb here, ready to download at fullspeed and not hit any stupid limits o7
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Zachstar
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Posted - 2007.09.27 23:37:00 -
[93]
I think a good balance can be gained through having both basic download and torrent options.
CCP noted their rather great distribution system and more power to them for doing it! However if it is one thing that is still expensive on the internet's it is bandwidth rates.
Also one needs to note the amount of people willing to share bandwith or just wanting to use torrents. That ought to shave off a nice TB or 2.
I think CCP ought to go for it.
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Rilder
Caldari
THC LTD
Dogs of War.
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Posted - 2007.09.27 23:51:00 -
[94]
Edited by: Rilder on 27/09/2007 23:52:21
My 30 KB/s max speed will make 1.1-1.3 gig take around 24-30 hours to DL. Not to bad, I've dled worse.
Just fyi, its impossible to get faster here and even if I could I wouldn't be able to afford.
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.09.28 00:13:00 -
[95]
I demand we all get on our knees right now and thank CCP for having a real time skill training system.
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Aldarus
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Posted - 2007.09.28 00:35:00 -
[96]
Multiple trackers 1 torrent released a week before patch ? :P could work? yes? no?
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Zenst
Gallente
Omniscient Order
Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.09.28 03:42:00 -
[97]
WOW Big patch on the horizon then.
Well if anybody on a bad connection for that and near Kingston Surrey then let me know and can arrange for you to plug into my 20mb or can burn you a DVD or pop onto your memory stick come the day. Sure many others will helps those local to them, so could cover alot of the trouble.
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Cryptonomicron
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Posted - 2007.09.28 05:41:00 -
[98]
So DX 10-client will be postponed? I am disappointed :(
May I at least know why?
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fkingfurious
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Posted - 2007.09.28 06:33:00 -
[99]
It wouldnt be the first time.
The Exodus client when it first hit all them years ago was released as an official torrent because there was no patch from the previous version ( Castor ).
So if they've done it once no reason why they shouldnt do it again.
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TerrorWOLF
PURE Legion
Pure.
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Posted - 2007.09.28 06:41:00 -
[100]
Edited by: TerrorWOLF on 28/09/2007 06:41:13
Originally by: Cryptonomicron
So DX 10-client will be postponed? I am disappointed :(
May I at least know why?
It wans not postponed. They did say they would do a DX9 first (for improving game performance and the UI) and then later a DX10 version.
May Your Death Be Slow And Painful
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SPIONKOP
Caldari
Fire Suppression
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Posted - 2007.09.28 08:01:00 -
[101]
You would think CCP would release a production version of the client sometime before it goes live.
Many companies have to send production versions of the game to manufactires several weeks before release due to production and distribution schedules.
Any bugs found inbetween production and going live can be dealt with by a small patch.
But CCP do things there own way.
Anyone care to calculate download times on a 1gb file for those playing on various speeds?
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2007.09.28 08:54:00 -
[102]
Originally by: SPIONKOP
Anyone care to calculate download times on a 1gb file for those playing on various speeds?
1.3 GB at 24kbps (3 KB/sec) = 5+ days
1.3 GB at 128kbps (16 KB/sec) = under 1 day
1.3 GB at 512kbps (64 KB/sec) = under 6 hours
1.3 GB at 1024kbps (128 KB/sec) = under 3 hours
1.3 GB at 4096kbps (512 KB/sec) = 44 minutes
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J Ripper
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.09.28 09:15:00 -
[103]
Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: SPIONKOP
Anyone care to calculate download times on a 1gb file for those playing on various speeds?
1.3 GB at 24kbps (3 KB/sec) = 5+ days
1.3 GB at 128kbps (16 KB/sec) = under 1 day
1.3 GB at 512kbps (64 KB/sec) = under 6 hours
1.3 GB at 1024kbps (128 KB/sec) = under 3 hours
1.3 GB at 4096kbps (512 KB/sec) = 44 minutes
Kewl, that means 22 mins for me, server permitting!
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fuze
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Posted - 2007.09.28 09:57:00 -
[104]
Originally by: fkingfurious
It wouldnt be the first time.
The Exodus client when it first hit all them years ago was released as an official torrent because there was no patch from the previous version ( Castor ).
So if they've done it once no reason why they shouldnt do it again.
/QFT
Besides if CCP launches a massive marketing campaign (which they have to do with their current goal to get more customers) and people cannot download the new client they prolly tick off a lot of the not to be newbies.
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Karanth
Gallente
Cirrius Technologies
O X I D E
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Posted - 2007.09.28 11:55:00 -
[105]
Hey, EVE is so hardcore, that even installation and downloading is pain! It separates the real players, from the wanna-be's, who frankly, should have no issue locating Hello Kitty Island Adventure.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2007.09.28 16:28:00 -
[106]
Originally by: J Ripper
Kewl, that means 22 mins for me, server permitting!
For me, it's around 2 hours.
But for some of my corpmates... ouch. I have one that's on dial-up in Italy.
I sometimes send him EVE patches in an E-MAIL attachment, because he can't get them otherwise.
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Irongut
M'8'S
Frontal Impact
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Posted - 2007.09.28 17:13:00 -
[107]
Originally by: Eddie Knight
Originally by: HandSoLow
I heard that I will need a PCI-E GFX card, a 2Ghz+ Processor and Vista [dx10 support] in order to play EVE RIII...this will affect the Linux users big time!
No. That system is not to run EVE, it's to run Vista. Rev 3 will bring a new graphics engine (Trinity 2) that will use DX10. If you have Vista you will be able to see the new nice graphics. However you will also have the choice to use the actual graphics engine so you have nothing to worry about. If you can play EVE now, you will be able to play Rev 3 too.
No you're wrong too. lol
The Trinity II engine is DX9. Devs have stated it will run on (almost) any PC that will currently run EVE, although you may have to turn the detail and effects down. It will replace the current graphics engine.
The DX10 and Vista only graphics engine is not coming till next year. It will not run unless you have Vista. It will be available side by side with the Trinity II engine.
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Sekhen
Caldari
Thundercats
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.28 18:14:00 -
[108]
Originally by: Sleepkevert
Originally by: Dred'Pirate Jesus
Sooooo.. Any info from the powers that be about that trial DVD thats supposed to go out to the major software retailers? I'd pay the $2.99ish to have a hardcopy of Rev III Eve.. 
 MUST. HAVE. NAO...
Really, I'd pay some money to get myself a hard copy of EVE. Even if it's just for the heck of having one! (24/7 download rig running at home, 2 gig will be easy in one night.
Also, i support the torrent idea. Heck, i'd even setup a temporary tracker myself if needed! (tough i think people like Chribba would be more up to the job...)
I have a CD with the Eve klient. The version is Gemini I think. Its not even over version 1000.
I will install it just for fun. See what it does. 
On topic:
I love the idea of Torrent. I would seed just for the fun of it.
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Hanshin Kool
Amarr
Royal Amarr Institute
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Posted - 2007.09.28 19:34:00 -
[109]
I run somewhere between 24 and 5.5 kbps depending on my sacrifices being pleasing or not to the Wireless Gods...so I'm guessing I'm gonna need to start training Amarr Battleship so I'll have a 30+ day skill when this patch comes out, so I can wait for a friend to mail me a DVD copy :)
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Shalia Ripper
Caldari
High4Life
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.28 20:02:00 -
[110]
I find all this whining amsuing. I have been playing LOTRO a little and when they update, it is horrendous. One recent patch I downloaded while their servers will still down, patched and when the servers came up it STILL took over 20 minutes for the client to update completely.
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Fergus Runkle
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.09.29 12:30:00 -
[111]
Originally by: Possessed Clown
Originally by: Fergus Runkle
What about those of us that don't have broadband and can't get it (due to location)
Even 1gig over dial up will be glacial especially in the UK where ISP's kick you after 2, 4 or 6 hours online.
How did you get eve then its like 700mbs....
Been here since 2003, I have one of the original dvd boxes complete with the manual (that was out of date at launch).
I've suffered through all the patches up to now on dial up. I think the longest I have had to wait for a patch downloading was a week (via a download manager).
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Gealbhan
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2007.09.29 13:53:00 -
[112]
Set a loooong skill training is all I'm saying.
"Concentrate all your fire on one target, when it is destroyed, move on to the next. That is how you secure victory". - Tactica Imperium. |
Snake Doctor
Second Wave
United Corporations Against Macros
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Posted - 2007.09.29 14:09:00 -
[113]
I like the idea of a torrent too.
Count me in as a seeder. I can do 10mb/unlimited upload.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2007.09.29 15:37:00 -
[114]
Originally by: Fergus Runkle
I've suffered through all the patches up to now on dial up. I think the longest I have had to wait for a patch downloading was a week (via a download manager).
You're lucky the download manager worked perfectly 
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Sinala Graves
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Posted - 2007.09.29 16:45:00 -
[115]
ok no flames please, but rather then a torrent or other idea's how about follow the system SOE uses when a large patch comes out, start seeding the files a week ahead of time ( or two) in small easy to download patches, say do 100 or 200 meg a day, so we dont have long delays, can snap the files up every day when we log in, and on patch day get the last tweaks and final polished files.makes it easier for those on dial up, or capped connections, and gets us back into the game faster.
hey its just an idea
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VeNT
Minmatar
Freelancer Union
Unaffiliated
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Posted - 2007.09.29 17:25:00 -
[116]
when eve was in beta the client was available as a 4 part file (somthing that I had requested at the time) I guess something like that will be available for a download of that size.
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Jushmai
The Scope
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Posted - 2007.09.29 17:56:00 -
[117]
Originally by: J Ripper
Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: SPIONKOP
Anyone care to calculate download times on a 1gb file for those playing on various speeds?
1.3 GB at 24kbps (3 KB/sec) = 5+ days
1.3 GB at 128kbps (16 KB/sec) = under 1 day
1.3 GB at 512kbps (64 KB/sec) = under 6 hours
1.3 GB at 1024kbps (128 KB/sec) = under 3 hours
1.3 GB at 4096kbps (512 KB/sec) = 44 minutes
Kewl, that means 22 mins for me, server permitting!
Just under 2 minutes for me. Oh well, guess I'll be able to stand the wait.
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Sleepkevert
Paradox v2.0
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Posted - 2007.09.29 20:28:00 -
[118]
Originally by: Jushmai
Originally by: J Ripper
Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: SPIONKOP
Anyone care to calculate download times on a 1gb file for those playing on various speeds?
1.3 GB at 24kbps (3 KB/sec) = 5+ days
1.3 GB at 128kbps (16 KB/sec) = under 1 day
1.3 GB at 512kbps (64 KB/sec) = under 6 hours
1.3 GB at 1024kbps (128 KB/sec) = under 3 hours
1.3 GB at 4096kbps (512 KB/sec) = 44 minutes
Kewl, that means 22 mins for me, server permitting!
Just under 2 minutes for me. Oh well, guess I'll be able to stand the wait.
Something about university networks for the win?
Also, it would take me about 3 hours, so thats not too bad. I'll just leave it on overnight :)
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CCP Explorer
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Posted - 2007.09.29 22:54:00 -
[119]
Edited by: CCP Explorer on 29/09/2007 22:56:49
Originally by: Akita T
1.3 GB at 24kbps (3 KB/sec) = 5+ days
1.3 GB at 128kbps (16 KB/sec) = under 1 day
1.3 GB at 512kbps (64 KB/sec) = under 6 hours
1.3 GB at 1024kbps (128 KB/sec) = under 3 hours
1.3 GB at 4096kbps (512 KB/sec) = 44 minutes
... the Limelight CDN permitting of course. I'm on a 9 Mbps connection at home (approx. 19 minutes for 1.3 GB) but I get about 1 Mbps from Limelight. Each connection might be capped; I'll be looking into our arrangement with Limelight and will keep this in mind.
We're currently not planning to provide a torrent stream but will rather rely on the CDN (and beef it up if necessary) when we deploy our November expansion.
We're currently not planning to provide DVD media. It's not agile enough. The lead time for making the DVDs is a few weeks and significant logistics involved but we will be working down to the last few hours before the server opens. For Revelations II we rebuilt the client and server software a couple of times on the deployment day.
We're currently not planning to provide the download in multiple files, you would get the same effect by using a decent download manager.
The initial projections for the new client were 8 to 12 GB. With various clever trickery we believe we're now down to 1.3 GB. The internet is always getting better and we believe that a 1.3 GB download is within reason, it's only twice as big as the current client.
Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson
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Tortun Nahme
Minmatar
Heimatar Services Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.09.29 23:38:00 -
[120]
zomg akita, still posting? must be using some haxploit to avoid your ban eh? 
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