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I Like Characters Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 3	Posted - 2012.01.25 22:45:00 - [271] - Quote Lyrrashae wrote: Xolve wrote: Half the people online in EvE at any given time are either a Null Sec toon, or the alt of a Null Sec toon; Citation needed. Explicit proof, or STFU. I suspect that you don't know the truth of this any better than I do, or anyone outside of CCP does. I strongly suspect, however, that you are wrong. Mainly because you're a douche--see? I can bandy blatant logical fallacies about too! Am I on the way to 1337-ness now? https://p.twimg.com/Ajc6KNBCQAAT9my.png That is from CCP Diagoras Twitter (https://twitter.com/ccp_diagoras). 66% of characters 5m sp or higher are highsec toons. Only 20% of the characters in the game are 0.0 toons. That's 20% of the characters, not players. Unless I'm the only person who took 2 or 3 alts with them to 0.0, I seriously doubt it is 1 character per 1 player and that is 20% of the playerbase. >_>
Ehn Roh Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 4	Posted - 2012.01.25 23:01:00 - [272] - Quote Kiran wrote: I lived in sov space and it was ok for a time. Then the eliteist pvp'ers in the alliance and my corp started to call CTA's at all hours and expected you to be in them at least 2 or 3 times a week. I was even told by one person that if I had more than 300 million ISK in my wallet I wasn't doing enough pvp and loosing ships. With talks of a 100% tax rate to make sure you went to the CTA's I said **** it and left. I enjoy null sec I also enjoy high sec and wormholes industry etc. I pay for the game and I will not have someone dictate to me how to play it. If they want to tell me how to play the game then they can jolly well pay for my accounts. I've heard both sides of this sort of thing, and 99 times out of 100 what happened is the "non-PvP" types didn't listen to advice about flying reasonable ships, showed up in something expensive they couldn't afford to lose because they thought a faction fit BS would make them uber, then ducked out of subsequent fights because they didn't listen to fleet commands, got killed, and now "have to make money and can't afford to fight". Usually this ends with them JC-ing to hi-sec to run missions. This is precisely the sort of thing that kills alliances moving out into null. If you don't want to be 'told how to play', then by all means stay in hisec and don't sign up for team efforts.
Caellach Marellus Nephtys Ventures inc 406	Posted - 2012.01.25 23:36:00 - [273] - Quote I game in highsec because it lets me do what I want to do in this game, with the occasional trip to W-Space. I don't need nullsec, thus going there is pointless when I can get what I want elsewhere.
Killer Gandry Shadow of the Pain 36	Posted - 2012.01.26 00:09:00 - [274] - Quote I play high sec when I feel like it. I play null sec when I feel like it. I determine my online time and I determine what kind of corporation or alliance I join. I can *** and moan like a little ** about other alliances as much as I want. In the end it's my own choice as what kind of group I want to belong to. I made for myself the choice to stay as far away as possible from Goons simply because I don't like their playstyle. It doesn't make their playstyle less or more than my own playstyle but to my taste it's too inhumane, even when looked at it purely as a game. but that is my personal vision to it. In general there are places for almost any type of gamestyle in null sec alliances. But it means that you have to set yourself passt some misconceptions created by a certain few alliances which you heard about more than others. I have been living in null sec on and off since 2004. Sometimes with a shorter and sometimes with a longer period of time being in high sec. The amount of presure some people tend to feel as towards CTA's and such is in many cases also presure people tend to place on themselves. Their own feeling they MUST attend is greater than the alliance actually puts on their members. But instead of looking at themselves it's easier to push forward that you are pressed into that many CTA's and ops. So there is a lot of discussion about stuff, but the reality is that a lot of people are using false pretences as why they do only high sec or only null sec. Some are fully aware they are just lying through their teeth and others just don't have a clue.
Lyrrashae Crushed Ambitions Reckless Ambition 164	Posted - 2012.01.26 04:05:00 - [275] - Quote Lord Zim wrote: Lyrrashae wrote: Xolve wrote: Half the people online in EvE at any given time are either a Null Sec toon, or the alt of a Null Sec toon; Citation needed. A normal EVE day for me is 1 or 2 chars in eve doing market and PI factory **, and 0 or 1 doing PVP (it all depends on whether or not there's a broadcast for a fleet I feel like logging in for). I'm pretty sure I'm not unique there. Because anecdotal evidence based on a sample size of 1 = statistical validity. NO to Drake and Tier 2 Battlecruiser nerfs. NO to Alliances in Faction Warfare NO to "wormhole mass-stabilisers." ** NO to the cancers that are sov-nullsec Alliances metastasising throughout EVE!
Lyrrashae Crushed Ambitions Reckless Ambition 164	Posted - 2012.01.26 04:11:00 - [276] - Quote I Like Characters wrote: Lyrrashae wrote: Xolve wrote: Half the people online in EvE at any given time are either a Null Sec toon, or the alt of a Null Sec toon; Citation needed. Explicit proof, or STFU. I suspect that you don't know the truth of this any better than I do, or anyone outside of CCP does. I strongly suspect, however, that you are wrong. Mainly because you're a douche--see? I can bandy blatant logical fallacies about too! Am I on the way to 1337-ness now? https://p.twimg.com/Ajc6KNBCQAAT9my.png That is from CCP Diagoras Twitter (https://twitter.com/ccp_diagoras). 66% of characters 5m sp or higher are highsec toons. Only 20% of the characters in the game are 0.0 toons. That's 20% of the characters, not players. Unless I'm the only person who took 2 or 3 alts with them to 0.0, I seriously doubt it is 1 character per 1 player and that is 20% of the playerbase. >_> This doesn't prove anything except give a snapshot of who's where (character-wise, notwithstanding which players are controlling which characters besides their main.). Again, explicit answer needed: Question: (posed to all active accounts >30d old) Are you/do you have an alt/alts, and what do use these alts for? NO to Drake and Tier 2 Battlecruiser nerfs. NO to Alliances in Faction Warfare NO to "wormhole mass-stabilisers." **** NO to the cancers that are sov-nullsec Alliances metastasising throughout EVE!
Henry Haphorn Aliastra Gallente Federation 173	Posted - 2012.01.26 04:23:00 - [277] - Quote It used to be fun for me at first. But then it started to become a chore as the CTAs ramped up. But that a little less than a year ago and the alliance I was in was moving to a new region, I kept getting forced to move to a new corp (mainly because the old ones get disbanded) and I wasn't in the mood for another move-in. So I decided to call it quits. I didn't mind the fact that I kept losing ships. I lose ships all the time anyways. That and the whole political bickering that was going around when Majesta Empire was undergoing changes in leadership.
Lord Zim Bat Country Goonswarm Federation 551	Posted - 2012.01.26 08:53:00 - [278] - Quote Lyrrashae wrote: Because anecdotal evidence based on a sample size of 1 = statistical validity. I'm not unique. In fact, most of the people I talk to in nullsec do pretty much the same thing I am. It's not my problem if you don't believe me, you're the one with your head in the sand. vOv

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