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saltrock0000
Obsessive Compulsive Disasters
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Posted - 2012.01.22 12:15:00 -
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People choose highset and oftern leave 0.0 for a few reasons, and yeah if you like to think your a 0.0 ellietist twot then maybe take note of some issues i will raise.
0.0 focuses on moon mining and sov space - this means the alliance leaders scooping moon goo make billions whilst expecting thier members to fly unsociable hours protecting thier isk income.
The alliance leaders treat thier memebrs like total crap and expect massive turn outs for thier CTA's
There is only so much ABC target f1 any person can take in fleet engagements
People need to make ISK to fund pvp ships. Now either offer FULL ship replacements or respect people need to RAT to make money to defend your pos's
The endless lagged blobfest that is fleet battles is just boring, pointless and a waste of time.
This is a game people should paly it for fun
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Atticus Fynch
375
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Posted - 2012.01.22 12:19:00 -
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I chose hi-sec becuase I would actually like to play the game. Not have to be constantly replacing my ships in the wild-west of null space or constantly being tangled up by over-bubbled gates. I just dont see the fun in that.
GÿàGÿàGÿàCargo Pilots Unite!!!GÿàGÿàGÿà
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Valei Khurelem
189
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Posted - 2012.01.22 12:22:00 -
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Yep, games are supposed to be fun and that's what certain players on this forum and elsewhere just don't seem to get.
"don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP." -á - CCP Ytterbium |
Bischopt
Ice Fire Warriors
59
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Posted - 2012.01.22 12:24:00 -
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Different things are fun to different people.
Eve may not be fun for you but it is fun for other people. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
4487
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Posted - 2012.01.22 12:24:00 -
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So, basically, people choose highsec because they don't know any better?
Sounds reasonableGǪ
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
Valei Khurelem
189
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Posted - 2012.01.22 12:25:00 -
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Bischopt wrote:Different things are fun to different people.
Eve may not be fun for you but it is fun for other people.
Yes, you're right, EVE is fun for those CCP shows favourtism towards, your **** anyone else attitude is not going to improve the game, it is ironic you should say this though when people like you almost certainly have alts. designed to fund your PvP losses.
Without high sec, you'd be flying in noob ships.
"don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP." -á - CCP Ytterbium |
Calisto Fox
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2012.01.22 12:27:00 -
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I choose highsec because thats the way i chose to spend my ( limited ) play time playing MY game.
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Tore Vest
Vikinghall
149
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Posted - 2012.01.22 12:31:00 -
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Highsec is a nice place  |
Grumpy Owly
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
75
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Posted - 2012.01.22 12:33:00 -
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And yet people in null sec still beleive that these meglomaniac godfather wannabes have their best interests at heart, brainwashing them into beleiving its the "nasty" CCP and high seccers that are to blame for all their woes.
And yet null slaves still beleive all this propoganda. So who really knows better?
Seems your null puppet masters like to shoot themselves in the foot on many levels. Whilst under the dissalusionment they hold all the power. And yet more null seccers maintain alts who activley run in HS and have the need to use HS to survive. How ironic. |
Tian Nu
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
20
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Posted - 2012.01.22 12:38:00 -
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I choose highsec because CONCORD protect me. |
Zleon Leigh
67
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Posted - 2012.01.22 12:45:00 -
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Bischopt wrote:Different things are fun to different people.
Eve may not be fun for you but it is fun for other people.
-1 for in ability to read.
EVE is fun for OP.
Incarna - Newest business example of mismanaged capital.
CCP - Continuing to gank independent PI producers every day |
Oxandrolone
Bite me inc.
Narwhals Ate My Duck
10
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Posted - 2012.01.22 12:52:00 -
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For alot of people farming isk is a goal in the game to them. They can freefarm isk in highsec with no risk so they stay in hs.
Incursions are working as intended, motherships were never meant to be farmed they were meant to be killed to end the incursion. Incursions are working as intended. |
Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate
518
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Posted - 2012.01.22 13:00:00 -
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Bischopt wrote:Different things are fun to different people.
Eve may not be fun for you but it is fun for other people.
True
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Pinaculus
Hole Busters
138
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Posted - 2012.01.22 13:23:00 -
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I live in high-sec because I don't have the play-time to learn who the locals are in low/null. Since I consider that a huge part of the game that can't really be done halfway, I just do exploration with the few hours I have to log on.
If I had more play time, then I'd be living someplace other than highsec (edit: because I hate it here).
I know sometimes it's difficult to realize just how much you spend on incidental things each month or year, but seriously, EVE is very cheap entertainment compared to most things... If you are a smoker, smoke one less pack a week and pay for EVE, with money left over to pick up a cheap bundle of flowers for the EVE widow upstairs. |
Aruken Marr
BSC LEGION
Tactical Narcotics Team
13
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Posted - 2012.01.22 13:40:00 -
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Ok so here's the thing: A lot a people really shouldn't talk about things they know very little about. Im gonna go out on a limb here and say the op's opinion is a little skewed.
1. If you're being forced into joining cta's way past your bed time, either you need to grow some stones and learn to just say no or you're in the wrong alliance. I turn up to ops when I can for as long as I can. They're pretty damn fun most the time besides the glaring let downs.
2. Theres plenty of opportunities for pvp on smaller scales. Its not all just blobs. If it's all just blobs for you, I think youre doing it wrong.
3. Moon goo. I honestly couldn't give a flying **** about how much isk comes in through this. I'm getting my fun through regular pvp and I get reimbursed when I lose ships (granted they aren't totally ******** losses). That's how you get access to all that tech isk. Some reimbursements are laid out so you actually profit from losing your ship in cta's as long as you've insured it.
4. I have enough time to make enough isk to pay for what I want. Granted im not massively rich never have been. Yet again I never understood the mentallity of amassing as many digits in my wallet as i can in a game. Isk's there to be spent unless youre saving up for something.
5. Its a lot more casual than what little Ms. Information up there would have you think.
Any more, for any more? |
DarkAegix
Acetech Systems
823
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Posted - 2012.01.22 13:42:00 -
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In highsec, you can comfortably engage in forum PVP at any given time. |
Andski
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1620
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Posted - 2012.01.22 13:47:00 -
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saltrock0000 wrote:0.0 focuses on moon mining and sov space - this means the alliance leaders scooping moon goo make billions whilst expecting thier members to fly unsociable hours protecting thier isk income.
The alliance leaders treat thier memebrs like total crap and expect massive turn outs for thier CTA's
Those are the alliances that fall apart the second a more powerful entity looks at them crosswise.
saltrock0000 wrote:People need to make ISK to fund pvp ships. Now either offer FULL ship replacements or respect people need to RAT to make money to defend your pos's
ship replacement programs? what an innovative idea, if only we had thought of that and implemented a comprehensive ISK compensation program for strat ops and a partial compensation program for roaming/solo PvP
oh wait, we have, and we're far from the first alliance to do that! |
Salicaz
Wolfsbrigade
5
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Posted - 2012.01.22 13:51:00 -
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All the real pvpers are in low sec anyway. |
Andski
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1620
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Posted - 2012.01.22 13:53:00 -
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Salicaz wrote:All the real pvpers are in low sec anyway.
camping gates is the pinnacle of elite pvp |
Tykari
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.01.22 13:54:00 -
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I have had some fun times in 0.0 Alliance space, but the biggest reason I've had it with alliances is all the drama that usually ends up happening. In that regard I find 0.0 w-space far more interesting, it's a closer knit group so you have a chance to get to know people a little as well and you can have fun and do whatever you want in there. And right now I'm in high sec mostly because I don't have a lot of free time to play EVE so when I log in I don't want to have to go through a lot of hassle to do something and I don't have to feel like I'm not participating enough. |
Salicaz
Wolfsbrigade
5
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Posted - 2012.01.22 13:54:00 -
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Andski wrote:Salicaz wrote:All the real pvpers are in low sec anyway. camping gates is the pinnacle of elite pvp
Who said anything about camping gates, also you're a goon 
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Grumpy Owly
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
75
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Posted - 2012.01.22 13:55:00 -
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Andski wrote:saltrock0000 wrote:0.0 focuses on moon mining and sov space - this means the alliance leaders scooping moon goo make billions whilst expecting thier members to fly unsociable hours protecting thier isk income.
The alliance leaders treat thier memebrs like total crap and expect massive turn outs for thier CTA's Those are the alliances that fall apart the second a more powerful entity looks at them crosswise. saltrock0000 wrote:People need to make ISK to fund pvp ships. Now either offer FULL ship replacements or respect people need to RAT to make money to defend your pos's ship replacement programs? what an innovative idea, if only we had thought of that and implemented a comprehensive ISK compensation program for strat ops and a partial compensation program for roaming/solo PvP oh wait, we have, and we're far from the first alliance to do that!
And then look at the 15% tax needed to run that "partial" programme.
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Grumpy Owly
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
75
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Posted - 2012.01.22 13:56:00 -
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Salicaz wrote:Andski wrote:Salicaz wrote:All the real pvpers are in low sec anyway. camping gates is the pinnacle of elite pvp Who said anything about camping gates, also you're a goon
These are the relatively safe operations by the goons they will re-imburse for ship losses, lol.
You will defend our assests *whip crack* |
Aruken Marr
BSC LEGION
Tactical Narcotics Team
15
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Posted - 2012.01.22 14:00:00 -
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Grumpy Owly wrote:Salicaz wrote:Andski wrote:Salicaz wrote:All the real pvpers are in low sec anyway. camping gates is the pinnacle of elite pvp Who said anything about camping gates, also you're a goon These are the relatively safe operations by the goons they will re-imburse for ship losses, lol. You will defend our assests *whip crack*
lol you talk some rubbish... |
Grumpy Owly
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
75
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Posted - 2012.01.22 14:03:00 -
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Aruken Marr wrote:
lol you talk some rubbish...
Maybe, but better than the depressing propoganda drivel that the likes of Goons make people suffer. |
Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
507
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Posted - 2012.01.22 14:06:00 -
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Salicaz wrote:All the real pvpers are in low sec anyway.
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Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
507
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Posted - 2012.01.22 14:06:00 -
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Grumpy Owly wrote:
You will defend our assests *whip crack*
have you ever actually, you know, flown with the goons, talked to one, or even have any clue what their culture is like? |
Vyl Vit
Cambio Enterprises
250
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Posted - 2012.01.22 14:07:00 -
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Tippia wrote:So, basically, people choose highsec because they don't know any better?
Sounds reasonableGǪ
Nice try. No cigar. Conveniently overlook the gist is returning from 0.0 to have fun playing a game, not staying out there to suck up to a handful of bigshots that own you coming and going. We rarely hear this side of the story, and naturally you'd take a dump on it. And to think I put your name in nomination for the Nobel for Economics this year. Pfft!
"culture" as in Goon culture. I think that's the funniest thing I've seen on the forums so far. The Goons have their own culture. If it's the kind that grows on cheese, I'd believe it. Culture...they've managed to log onto an MMO sandbox, hit a few keyboard keys and the result is they've created a culture. Too much. And, too bad Gideon didn't pass out dictionaries.
Anyone with any sense has already left town. |
Aruken Marr
BSC LEGION
Tactical Narcotics Team
15
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Posted - 2012.01.22 14:09:00 -
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Grumpy Owly wrote:Aruken Marr wrote:
lol you talk some rubbish...
Maybe, but better than the depressing propoganda drivel that the likes of Goons make people suffer.
Seriously, you have no clue... |
Andski
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1620
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Posted - 2012.01.22 14:14:00 -
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Grumpy Owly wrote:Andski wrote:saltrock0000 wrote:0.0 focuses on moon mining and sov space - this means the alliance leaders scooping moon goo make billions whilst expecting thier members to fly unsociable hours protecting thier isk income.
The alliance leaders treat thier memebrs like total crap and expect massive turn outs for thier CTA's Those are the alliances that fall apart the second a more powerful entity looks at them crosswise. saltrock0000 wrote:People need to make ISK to fund pvp ships. Now either offer FULL ship replacements or respect people need to RAT to make money to defend your pos's ship replacement programs? what an innovative idea, if only we had thought of that and implemented a comprehensive ISK compensation program for strat ops and a partial compensation program for roaming/solo PvP oh wait, we have, and we're far from the first alliance to do that! And then look at the 15% tax needed to run that "partial" programme.
ahahahaha taxes
son, we have 60+ tech moons, taxes just keep the wallet healthy
fyi we paid out 120b in "partial" reimbursements in december |
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