Because there are a *lot* of people who have a *lot* invested in current sov mechanics?

You mean those guys who keep electing CSM representatives who run on the promise of changing current sov mechanics? It's not like npc nullsec is a new invention btw.

hahahahahaha

No.

I mean the people (guys, guys playing gals and those few women) who've been out there, doing their thing, whatever it is, for the last two, three, four, 9 years? Some with the same groups/friends they've been with for most of a decade? Those guys.

Yeah, no. That would work if all these people actually tried out not-highsec, but they don't. They just stay in highsec because they hear stories like this and don't actually go check for themselves.

They choose it because they don't know better.

For all the crying and whining about high-sec miners goes, when it comes down to comparing the two, It's not really a tough decision why people would rather mine in high-sec over null.

For the record, I really wish CCP would balance it out towards null sec. But right now, I'm only going to do what is the best use of my time. Going to null sec is down at the bottom of that list.

@ Umega

plenty of cliche ..

memories are irrelevant in same way as anything else. Universe will cease to exist at some point an time..
And memories of minor achievement in game will not be remembered even in next generation..

Your kids will not remember anything about your grand father/mother. And what they will remember is up to "goverment" and what they want people to become/ what they allow to be lectured. What side of history etc.

It will take approximately two full generation to create common knowledge of 1+1=3

I demand the title of this thread be changed to 'Assumption vs Truth'.

Can lead a donkey to water, can't make the donkey drink.

I'm not going to address some of the misconceptions from my perspective.. it looks, pointless to even try.

Other than state.. it really is poor logic to lump every single member of a null alliance into a stereotype. And then ontop of that.. lump all null sec core players into a single derogatory stereotype. The people that tend to do this are so bitter.. simply because they really do NOT get this game. They never will. Forget them.. they will be forgotten eventually anyway.

There are plenty of well rounded, good down to earth people across all of null/low, all them alliances, pirates, whatever. They are just playing this game.. EVE. Everybody Verse Everybody or as I like to call it, Enjoying Vicarious Entertainment.

In my experinces.. I dare say those people that stem n stay n live only in highsec are more mentally f'd up than the rest (idk some of you wh'ers are pretty nuts too). Take things too serious. Don't throw caution to the wind.. cause this is merely a video game. A 'cruel harsh'.. video game. Really.. it's only as harsh as your mind lets it be.

Highsec is so repeatative. I mean.. really.. really.. really badly repeatative. You all should be thankful things take place to 'grief' you. Ultimately.. it should just spice up the game for you and your life. Can only mine a rock with a pointless lil frig rat daisy slapping you so much.. can only run the same ole 4s so much.. same Incursions.. same mind numbingly easy exploration sites.. cart supplies from same hub to n from.. click invention/research jobs on.. before, you're Dead. There are no stories.. no room for growth. There is nothing epic about amassing billions.. when you do nothing with it. A shiny is only shiny when you take it out to let it shine.

And the most important thing you can set out to shine in this 'vicious', 'harsh', 'evil' MMO called EVE.. is Yourself. Tough to do when you are trapped in a never ending repeatative cycle.. that you have your mind believing is the correct way. Fear, afraid of what's beyond the Door. Afraid of losing.

Here is a hint for some of you..

You are going to lose everything when you quit. Make the most of everything you have while you have it here.. enjoy this game to it's full potential and let yourselves go. Some day you will quit.. what is wealth without memories? Only memories will be remembered.

Actually people tend to disagree with you , you nullsec dwellers are bunch of paranoid teenagers who still need to get laid for the first time , no imagination , absolute no planning skills by the average blobber,certainly no open mind about what you can and cannot do in this game and what is worse , there is no future , what else are you expect to do out there than to blob up or do another anomoly in between blobs

I am so sick and tired of you socalled nullsec elitist who think everything done by CCP is for them alone and that people shoulkd play this game your way and anybody thinking otherwise should leave or if they don't leave voluntarry , grief them out of the game
and what is most hypocrite of all , you ullsec assholes are the first to cry because they rarely find new members these days anymore and can't understand why people refuse to go to nullsec

You ve done nothing out there except complaining about high sec and the lack of things to do or to explore , there is plenty to do out there , you nullsec assholes are just too blind and too lazy or stupid to see it

Actually people tend to disagree with you , you nullsec dwellers are bunch of paranoid teenagers who still need to get laid for the first time , no imagination , absolute no planning skills by the average blobber,certainly no open mind about what you can and cannot do in this game and what is worse , there is no future , what else are you expect to do out there than to blob up or do another anomoly in between blobs

Why do you think Goons attacked ice miners?

ahahahaha taxes

son, we have 60+ tech moons, taxes just keep the wallet healthy

fyi we paid out 120b in "partial" reimbursements in december

Oh look, someone doesn't understand that SOV etc (and shinies such as JBs) actually costs money.

I'm literally shocked.

People choose highset and oftern leave 0.0 for a few reasons, and yeah if you like to think your a 0.0 ellietist twot then maybe take note of some issues i will raise.

0.0 focuses on moon mining and sov space - this means the alliance leaders scooping moon goo make billions whilst expecting thier members to fly unsociable hours protecting thier isk income.

The alliance leaders treat thier memebrs like total crap and expect massive turn outs for thier CTA's

There is only so much ABC target f1 any person can take in fleet engagements

People need to make ISK to fund pvp ships. Now either offer FULL ship replacements or respect people need to RAT to make money to defend your pos's

The endless lagged blobfest that is fleet battles is just boring, pointless and a waste of time.

This is a game people should paly it for fun

Well from the looks of the map Goons hold about 60ish systems or so.

So if we divide 288 billion by 60 we get 4.8 billion per system per month.


So it costs 4.8 billion to buy and run the sov structures for a month?


Come on now, you're gunna have to give me more than that if you wanna win me over to your way of thinking.

4.8 billion per system per month is still a butt load of cash.

Also don't forget we are ONLY talking about your income from tech moons. We haven't touched the income from other sources such as lower quality moons or the 15% tax, or your market manipulation shenanigans.

I'm not saying we're running a not-for-profit organization here