Mining was also mentioned in that post. And PI. Are those "cutthroat" and "PvP centric" as well?

Under the banner of market PVP.. yes.

harrassing miners by can flipping in hisec - and camping in low /null sec takes it to the next level

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That just makes PvP sound like a little boy running around the playground pulling on girl's pigtails. There's no challenge, no hope for a fight. Just running around screaming "PAY ATTENTION TO MEEEEEEEEEE" and hoping someone takes you more seriously than you are.

You do understand player versus player does NOT exclusively mean combat right?

And you should go on the market forums and tell them they are not engaged in a player versus player activity. The markets are in some ways more cutthroat than actual combat.

The presence of ganking and Hulkageddon is an attempt to bring the PVP focus of EVE into the realm of mining. Otherwise, miners only partake in PVP activities when they attempt to sell minerals on the market.

I choose highsec because CONCORD protect me.

I demand the title of this thread be changed to 'Assumption vs Truth'.

Can lead a donkey to water, can't make the donkey drink.

Ok so here's the thing: A lot a people really shouldn't talk about things they know very little about. Im gonna go out on a limb here and say the op's opinion is a little skewed.

1. If you're being forced into joining cta's way past your bed time, either you need to grow some stones and learn to just say no or you're in the wrong alliance. I turn up to ops when I can for as long as I can (edit- and neither do I feel pressured when I cant attend). They're pretty damn fun most the time besides the glaring let downs.

2. Theres plenty of opportunities for pvp on smaller scales. Its not all just blobs. If it's all just blobs for you, I think youre doing it wrong.

3. Moon goo. I honestly couldn't give a flying **** about how much isk comes in through this. I'm getting my fun through regular pvp and I get reimbursed when I lose ships (granted they aren't totally ******** losses). I suck goon balls that's how you get access to all that tech isk. Some reimbursements are laid out so you actually profit from losing your ship in cta's as long as you've insured it.

4. I have enough time to make enough isk to pay for what I want. Granted im not massively rich never have been. Yet again I never understood the mentallity of amassing as many digits in my wallet as i can in a game. Isk's there to be spent unless youre saving up for something.

5. Its a lot more casual than what little Ms. Information up there would have you think.


Any more, for any more?

Fixed

It's that non-combat, non-conflict mindset of an EVE player that needs to be squashed and the crux of the argument comes when the conflict-averse crowd starts changing CCP's game of conflict into Hello Kitty Island.

People choose hi-sec because that is where they enjoy themselves the most

camping gates is the pinnacle of elite pvp

Yeah, no. That would work if all these people actually tried out not-highsec, but they don't. They just stay in highsec because they hear stories like this and don't actually go check for themselves.

They choose it because they don't know better.

Yes bubbling them is soooo much better

Half the people online in EvE at any given time are either a Null Sec toon, or the alt of a Null Sec toon;

[...] you say that Empire dwellers are the majority in this game, great, open your alliances tab, go to rankings, and find me a empire alliance in the top 10 by total members. [...]

My experience of null, both npc and sov, contradicts this entirely. I mean every sentence, the opposite is true.

Lol

Citation needed.