[umad? Why all the hate? Its unhealthy to project personalities onto groups you barely know nothing about and then proceed to ddemonise them.

sell your character

buy a PvP character

done

Do what the gentlemen above you said then. Just don't guarantee you will get a SP-for-SP char though... nobody cares about industry and mining and ****....

No not mad , just sick and tired of some alliances arrogance and selfishness and the way they think that everything rn this game revolves around them alone , forgetting that they only represents less than 20 % of all players
If there is a group of players that will kill this game eventually it is them
And if they really think CCP will still be able to support and expand this game on the same scale it is today, when everyone else besides them is gone , well let them have what they want then

Yes right you spend your time griefing New Eden so they become whiney bitches and drama queens so you can feed on tears now your using 'We don't want no tears' as a defence.

I'd explain it to you, but you'd probably manage to figure out a way to not get it, again.

You do realise this game is nullsec right? The very game ccp advertises is nullsec, the whole pvp thing, empire building, alliances of thousands of players duking it out? The fact that nullsec isnt as populated as it should be is due hisec catering too highly to the risk averse and not providing players enough information on what null is really like, and how youve gotta get off your ass to get out there and see for yourself. Instead we get players like you constantly bleating about how the big bad goons touched you. Scaring potential players into staying in those ridiculous npc corps, playing solo for 6 months and get bored shitless by the 10% of the game they actually experience. I know for a fact thats what happens because its what happened to me in my first year of playing and I left. Granted I came back and found a good corp to hang around in with other players until i realised i wanted more pvp.

Its the alliances, coalitions and communities that make this game.

True can't see any logical reason why goons won't be goons and grief and abuse everyone at any opurtunity possible

That's your stated purpose isn't it?

You do realise this game is nullsec right? The very game ccp advertises is nullsec, the whole pvp thing, empire building, alliances of thousands of players duking it out? The fact that nullsec isnt as populated as it should be is due to hisec catering too highly to the risk averse and not providing players enough information on what null is really like, and how youve gotta get off your ass to get out there and see for yourself.

Its the alliances, coalitions and communities that make this game.

Those fine gentlemen may have been mostly trolling, but it demonstrates the general sentiment in sov null. Some don't want to conform to fleet doctrines and alliance rules, beacause when they play the game it's "me time".

And now, stop making these threads, we all know that people who wanted to go to null are already mostly there and the rest doesn't really care.

True can't see any logical reason why goons won't be goons and grief and abuse everyone at any opurtunity possible

That's your stated purpose isn't it?

That is your view on the game
My view is that CCP created this game with 3 distinctive areas each with their own different playingstyles
Your saying highsec dwellers only participate in 10% of the game , same can be said about nullsec dwellers who probavbly are using less than 5% of the game

, that is if you include counting the plexes you run in between blobs

Granted finding the right and a good corp is essential to enjoy the game fullest , but why then did CCP create a whole player driven economy when this game is only about pvp and nullsec like you say

Should be really easy just to delete all high sec industry , you get rid of all those annoying miners / industry characters and lets do away with all lvl2 lvl 3 and lvl 4 missions move them to low sec and npc nullsec no more npc corp missionrunners hooorah
Now we got rid of all those carebears whinners , ultimate win for all those hardcore pvp only idiots
and what next , you really think CCP can support and keep expanding this game when they just lost 80 % of their subscribers

Are you actually thinking that because we're goons (and we're not just goons, we're the entire CFC), we're supposed to go out and make our own lives as miserable as possible?

Yeah, I can't explain this to you, can I?

Still not getting it.

Seriously, take off your tinfoilhat already and eat your damn anti-bitter pill.

That is your view on the game
My view is that CCP created this game with 3 distinctive areas each with their own different playingstyles
Your saying highsec dwellers only participate in 10% of the game , same can be said about nullsec dwellers who probavbly are using less than 5% of the game , that is if you include counting the plexes you run in between blobs
Granted finding the right and a good corp is essential to enjoy the game fullest , but why then did CCP create a whole player driven economy when this game is only about pvp and nullsec like you say
Should be really easy just to delete all high sec industry , you get rid of all those annoying miners / industry characters and lets do away with all lvl2 lvl 3 and lvl 4 missions move them to low sec and npc nullsec no more npc corp missionrunners hooorah
Now we got rid of all those carebears whinners , ultimate win for all those hardcore pvp only idiots
and what next , you really think CCP can support and keep expanding this game when they just lost 80 % of their subscribers

Or you could just leave your tinfoil hat at the door...

Whoever said industry is pve? Industry is pvp in it's own right. The way I see it, hisec is the training grounds, it lets you get a feel for the game. Nullsec is pretty much the end game, an end game you can jump into at any given time at any given skill level you just gotta have the right friends and the right help/team work. There's plenty of industry for people to do out here, the scales just a little larger.

Who ever said I'm pvp only? Granted like i said there's only so much killing npc's i can do. But I like the occasional plex and I wanna have a go at incursions. Between blobs, though? Bollocks! Small roaming gang warfare's where it's at. Large fleets are equally as awesome if just for the scale of them...

People forget this is a pvp orientated game, has been from the start. Hence the whole non-consentive pvp thing. PVP isnt limited to blowing eachother up either. If it's undisturbed, minimal risk pve you want I suggest you find another game. But its not like hisec should be deleted, its just there should be much less stagnation in it and lot more movement outwards.

p.s. in order to do that risk/reward needs to be changed. People in hisec can keep their level 4s, just provide more incentive for the potentially adventurous to move out into low/null and wormhole space.

As we are discusing bots, I think you have made things perfectly clear, no need for any further explanation I feel

But, what exactly do you think I do in my day to day life in EVE?

Ohh I'm guessing either botting or something totally irrelevant to the disscusion.

Shoot blues erreyday

Some good valid points you made there
Indeed EVE is a pvp orientated game i fully agree , so is economy in this game but why draw the line there , industry and mining are just as competitive as selling and buying or blowing up other persons ships ...right
What this game really needs is a revival of nullsec industry beyond moongoo,
Not only will nullsec alliances attract more and better recruits/members , most of them more than willing to take up arms to protect their precious favorite mining systems , , overall it will make nullsec alliances less dependable on high sec and give more opportunity to fight over rescources
it will also enforce the risk vs reward factor
But alot of things need to change for that not only gamemechanics but also and certainly mentallity

So because I'm in null, I'm automatically a botter, is that it?

So because I'm in null, I'm automatically a botter, is that it?

No it's a joke mate, lighten up, as I say what you actually occupy your ingame time doing is hardley relevant to the disscusion.

No it's a joke mate, lighten up, as I say what you actually occupy your ingame time doing is hardley relevant to the disscusion.

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