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Looney Spooney Amarr omen. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.10.23 19:36:00 - [2311] Edited by: Looney Spooney on 23/10/2007 19:35:49 Originally by: Torshin Originally by: Looney Spooney Originally by: ZaKma [19:05:18] CCP Gangleri > Everyone that is crying about their Carrier, take a long deep breath and compare your carriers ability to kill small targets with a Dread. Which is bigger and more expensive. From Sisi local. I don't know whether to laugh or cry. lol. Does CCP even play this game? Because I seem to remeber dreads being made for attacking POSes? Guys we been doing it wrong! Your draeds are ment to shoot support. but wait if carriers/ms arent made for killing support and dreads are, how should i use my MS? All you devs crying about us crying about carriers compare the ability of a dread to kill a POS to that of a carriers ability to kill a POS. Hey dont worry we can use 5 sentry drones now!
Skilo Ordem dos Templarios Pax Atlantis	Posted - 2007.10.23 19:36:00 - [2312] Can i just get back all my skills points in drones, fighters and capital ships to be replaced in skills for more cool stuff like ice mining? I could be training command ships, recon ships, etc ...... Stop it!!!!!!!!!!
Kartala	Posted - 2007.10.23 19:37:00 - [2313] Edited by: Kartala on 23/10/2007 19:36:58 Quote: I do what i want with my ships. You have no rights, same with CCP, to FORCE me what to do. u can do, what ccp is want to do..;)
Pallidum Treponema Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.10.23 19:37:00 - [2314] Originally by: ZaKma [19:05:18] CCP Gangleri > Everyone that is crying about their Carrier, take a long deep breath and compare your carriers ability to kill small targets with a Dread. Which is bigger and more expensive. As I said, PR department RIGHT NOW! Your staff is acting totally to the contrary of your company's good right now!
ARISINI	Posted - 2007.10.23 19:37:00 - [2315] Account cancelled! Your account is set NOT to automatically renew at the end of the current cycle
Victous	Posted - 2007.10.23 19:39:00 - [2316] You have got to be kidding me, it takes forever to train up the proper skills to use a carrier I have spent the better part of the last year doing just that and still am only average as a carrier pilot, this has got to be a joke, why the hell would someone spend all their time and effort to get into one of these ships if they cannot even reap the benifits of killing smaller ships like BS's easily? I mean thats how it should be right, my ships bigger badder and thus I can kill you quicker, if you dont like it invest the time and effort I have and come at me with a dread etc etc... You Dev's need to stop messing with ships that everyone likes and uses and concentrate on something more productive like cranking out a new capital class that is anti carrier and thus makes the game more interesting and gives players more options. So what if I can kill a BS quicker in my 1 billion isk ship, I mean at ten times the cost I dont see the problem with that, I would expect a titan to be able to kick my carrier's ass or are we gonna try to make every ship in this game level with battleships? LOL
Turin Caldari Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.10.23 19:40:00 - [2317] Originally by: elohllird Originally by: Vandalias Originally by: UPS Truck How is a solid combat ship that doesn't appear overpowered to most people a 'flavor of the month'? Ask everyone and their mom who created alts specifically to train for it. I'm sure they had some reason. You don't see everyone training for carriers for no reason. post with your main coward Just ignore this chode, he is nothing but a troll, who is out to bait as many people as he can. _________________________________
Icome4u Caldari Dark and Light inc. D-L	Posted - 2007.10.23 19:41:00 - [2318] Originally by: Kartala Edited by: Kartala on 23/10/2007 19:36:58 Quote: I do what i want with my ships. You have no rights, same with CCP, to FORCE me what to do. u can do, what ccp is want to do..;) I can if i want to. But i don't want to be FORCE to do it. Especialy when their idea sucks (logistic modules aren't good enough to put a carrier/MS at risk).
Mistress Suffering Einherjar Rising	Posted - 2007.10.23 19:41:00 - [2319] What in the world is CCP smoking? Carriers aren't overpowered currently. Why would they feel like they needed nerfing? You want to nerf something? Nerf fighter delegation. Don't make it mandatory. If anything is a problem, its the ability to use fighters while hiding at .0001 meters from being back inside a hugely fortified POS shield. These sorts of changes just **** me off because they demonstrate a lack of actually flying the ship in question.
SirMolly	Posted - 2007.10.23 19:43:00 - [2320] Don't get soft CCP, otherwise there will be endless amount of whineage every nerf. You know what's best for your game.
Gralatus Viper Squad Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.10.23 19:43:00 - [2321] Bad Idea, as stated by many for lots of reasons. Mostly because I paid for the time needed to train the carrier to a respectable level based upon the expectation that it was a valueable, useful ship. To nerf it into some sort of Big Dominix borders on stupidity at a level previously unseen from ccp and basically is a slap in the face. If lag is the issue, boost fighters and reduce the numbers similiar to drones. If solo-pwnmobiles is the issue, make them more expensive so losing them hurts more. If capital blobs are the issue then nerf remote repping. Triage mode already make a carrier into nothing but a big fat target that can't fight back. This change makes it nothing more then a big expensive logistics ship 100% of the time. I didn't train months to fly a Big badger/basilisk ship. Maybe this dev needs to go back to quality assurance, cause this idea sucks. g
Icome4u Caldari Dark and Light inc. D-L	Posted - 2007.10.23 19:44:00 - [2322] Originally by: SirMolly Don't get soft CCP, otherwise there will be endless amount of whineage every nerf. You know what's best for your game. Apparently they don't. Especially when you have people that have been playing the game from day 1 canceling their accounts. But hey you wouldn't know anything about that noob.
Ztrain Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.10.23 19:45:00 - [2323] Originally by: CCP Abathur I also want to reassure you all that while our replies have been few, there has been a lot of internal discussion about the subject matter of this thread and your responses to it. Like for example where your going to send your resumes and what companies would be willing to still consider any employee's with white wolf and CCP on the names? Heh Z CCP (Producers of Slide Show Online) takin the fun out of EVE, one patch at a time.
Xilimyth Derlin OldBastardsPub SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.23 19:47:00 - [2324] Edited by: Xilimyth Derlin on 23/10/2007 19:51:03 Originally by: SirMolly Don't get soft CCP, otherwise there will be endless amount of whineage every nerf. You know what's best for your game. Going soft on an adjustment is one thing... if it was a one month skill, that'd be ONE issue. This is DRASTICALLY changing the role of a ship that takes a year of dedicated training to get into. VASTLY different situation here. EDIT: AND has been out for a year. If this was after a month of change... I can almost guarantee the reaction would've been different. ------------------------------------------- Carrier & Mothership changes - Voice your opinion here!
Dionisius Gallente Critical Analysis Te-Ka	Posted - 2007.10.23 19:49:00 - [2325] Originally by: SirMolly Don't get soft CCP, otherwise there will be endless amount of whineage every nerf. You know what's best for your game. So for what company do you work for?Blizzard?Sonny?EA?Trolls'r Us? _____________________________________
Olli Seraphin Technologies Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.10.23 19:52:00 - [2326] Originally by: CCP Abathur Edited by: CCP Abathur on 23/10/2007 18:40:56 Ladies and Gentlemen, this has to do with the upcoming drone and fighter bandwidth and is not related to the delegation idea. The test server gets updated daily and as Trinity gets closer to release you will likely see a lot of things happening there. We are also working on an updated new dev blog to outline our concerns and plans for carriers. Please do not jump to conclusions and be patient. Thank you. Nobody trust u. 4 Accounts down for u CCP
Veng3ance Prophets Of a Damned Universe	Posted - 2007.10.23 19:52:00 - [2327] I thought this was an "idea" I had no idea ideas could be implemented onto the test server within 48 hours. Thats amazing! You guys already decided this awhile back. Shoulda just suprised us, you wasted a full month of subscription money for a couple thousand accounts.
Cassius Hawkeye Minmatar Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.10.23 19:56:00 - [2328] Awaiting further clarification on the issue before deciding what to do. I do not want to end up leaving the game i love, but if there is little point in reaching what i aim for then so be it. Carriers are fine as they are - they are NOT solomobiles. They ARE vulnerable. They ARE effective support ships. - please don't ruin these fine ships. They are the combat & logistics backbone of EVERY 0.0 alliance/corp, the pride of many players collection of ships and the aspiration of 1000's of newer players. Please look into alternative methods to solve drone lag. Please find a way to prevent low sec mom camping. CCP please sort this out. -----------------------------------------
Necronomicon Caldari KIA Corp KIA Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.23 19:56:00 - [2329] Originally by: ZaKma [19:05:18] CCP Gangleri > Everyone that is crying about their Carrier, take a long deep breath and compare your carriers ability to kill small targets with a Dread. Which is bigger and more expensive. Our carriers dont have a module that gives our drones a stupid amount of extra damage, or one that that makes our ships able to ultra tank...oh wait...we do, but it cuts our offensive capability to ZERO. Dreads and carriers can be compared about as much as Cruise Launchers and Mining Lasers, yeah, they both use a high slot, whoopdy doo, that is where the similarities end. You sir obviously have little knowledge of the game, and you are insulting those of us who do. I suggest you refrain from further irritating the commuity with your throwaway 'whining' comments when addressing players who have been in this game longer than you have probably been in CCP. Carlsberg dont make Eve Pilots, but if they did, i wouldnt be one of them.
JonVe Gallente FireTech Pure.	Posted - 2007.10.23 19:58:00 - [2330] Yeah, I used to be Jedi in SWG prior to the NGE. You guys have no ****ing idea how angry I am now at this happening here.
Icome4u Caldari Dark and Light inc. D-L	Posted - 2007.10.23 19:59:00 - [2331] Originally by: Ztrain Originally by: Icome4u Originally by: SirMolly Don't get soft CCP, otherwise there will be endless amount of whineage every nerf. You know what's best for your game. Apparently they don't. Especially when you have people that have been playing the game from day 1 canceling their accounts. But hey you wouldn't know anything about that noob. No he's 100% correct. They need to fix lag. But they don't have the programming skills to fix their software so they only way they can reduce lag is by reducing the population. Z
picchiatello	Posted - 2007.10.23 20:00:00 - [2332] Originally by: JonVe Yeah, I used to be Jedi in SWG prior to the NGE. You guys have no ****ing idea how angry I am now at this happening here. OMGGGG!!! Server? ME.. i Was Chimera.. in ehm JEdi Council corp ;)
Rajari Amarr Crimson Star Empire	Posted - 2007.10.23 20:01:00 - [2333] I gotta say NERF I've only just gotten my carrier and true, a lot of times it can be uber deadly. At the same time, it doesn't take too much to overcome it. An inty can keep out of range of fighters and such. It's all about tactical planning. The fact that some people have problems with this, doesn't mean you should nerf it for everyone else. If a carrier can't control more drones than, say, a battleship, or any other ships...then what's the real reason for having one? The Jump Drive? 'Fraid the new jump freighters will nerf that aspect of the benefit of the carriers as well. As someone else in this thread said, don't nerf the CAPITAL SHIPS (meaning, supposed to be uber and difficult) but instead, create newer ships and modules to combat the caps. For instance, maybe a jamming module that will interrupt control of a carrier's drone(s) so they just attack whatever, or cease attacking at all. Just a quick lil rant with a couple ideas before I head to work, lol. Had to let myself be heard here though...nerfing ships is never the answer. next you'll be nerfing HACs and such so noobships can take them out more easily....because people would rather complain about that than striving for a better ship. ---- CEO/Founder CRIMSON STAR EMPIRE CRIST Forums
1Of9 Gallente The Circle STYX.	Posted - 2007.10.23 20:01:00 - [2334] I just came from sisi. Im extremely sad to report, that a DEIMOS was TANKING my nyx with my ubber 5 drones .. I DIDNT KILL IT.. I DIDNT!!!!!!!!! he LOL'ed on local ffs!! A ship that costed me 50b isk could not kill a freaking Deimos! CCP: trust me... I AM LEAVING!
lofty29 Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.10.23 20:01:00 - [2335] Yknow. I've never been angry at a change CCP made. They nerfed NOS, one of my primary weapons. I saw the reasons, so I adapted and kept playing. Before that, they nerfed launching 15 drones from a droneboat, I saw the reasons and kept playing. Before that, they nerfed drone tracking. Again, I saw the reasons, and kept playing. Now, they completely ruin the one thing I've been working towards for the last year, and there is absolutely NO POINT If these changes hit TQ, you won't see another Lofty29 movie --- Latest Video : FAT- Camp
Xilimyth Derlin OldBastardsPub SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.23 20:01:00 - [2336] Originally by: picchiatello Originally by: JonVe Yeah, I used to be Jedi in SWG prior to the NGE. You guys have no ****ing idea how angry I am now at this happening here. OMGGGG!!! Server? ME.. i Was Chimera.. in ehm JEdi Council corp ;) I think it was 'Sunrunner' for me. But yea... the joy of everyone getting to instantly go jedi ... meh. The 'Elder' Jedi title didnt' quite fix that given the time I put into those force quests :/ ------------------------------------------- Carrier & Mothership changes - Voice your opinion here!
Dionisius Gallente Critical Analysis Te-Ka	Posted - 2007.10.23 20:04:00 - [2337] Originally by: lofty29 Yknow. I've never been angry at a change CCP made. They nerfed NOS, one of my primary weapons. I saw the reasons, so I adapted and kept playing. Before that, they nerfed launching 15 drones from a droneboat, I saw the reasons and kept playing. Before that, they nerfed drone tracking. Again, I saw the reasons, and kept playing. Now, they completely ruin the one thing I've been working towards for the last year, and there is absolutely NO POINT If these changes hit TQ, you won't see another Lofty29 movie Sh*t.. i liked to watch your movies alot. _____________________________________
Druadan Gallente Aristotle Enterprises Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2007.10.23 20:04:00 - [2338] Originally by: lofty29 Yknow. I've never been angry at a change CCP made. They nerfed NOS, one of my primary weapons. I saw the reasons, so I adapted and kept playing. Before that, they nerfed launching 15 drones from a droneboat, I saw the reasons and kept playing. Before that, they nerfed drone tracking. Again, I saw the reasons, and kept playing. Now, they completely ruin the one thing I've been working towards for the last year, and there is absolutely NO POINT If these changes hit TQ, you won't see another Lofty29 movie Look what you've done, CCP! You might as well divide by zero and have done with the universe.
Kristoffer Amarr Blackguard Brigade Aftermath Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.23 20:05:00 - [2339] This has to be one of the worst ideas ever. Give me my spent training time back k thanks.
Extremely Sticky Angry Dogs	Posted - 2007.10.23 20:05:00 - [2340] I consider BC's and Command ships to be a support ship thta gives you more firepower or armor. Not a carrier. Make a carrier the ultimate Command link ship then you can call it a support ****. A carrier is an attacking ship for me. I don't want to assign all my fighters and have everyone else doing all the work.

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