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CCP kieron	Posted - 2007.11.03 16:47:00 - [1] As announced earlier in this forum thread Revelations 2.3 will be deployed on Tuesday, 6 November. This patch will contain a number of fixes which can all be viewed here, but most importantly it contains formal support for Mac OS X and Linux! If you would like to have a sneak preview of what it is going to be like playing on the supported OS of your choice, then I suggest you download the full installer and connect to our test server Multiplicity and try it out. Here are the system requirements for Mac and Linux. Windows requirements are still the same. Cedega: Minimum System Requirements: OS: Ubuntu 7+, Suse 10+, Linspire 6 CPU: CPU speed equal or greater than 1,8GHz Centrino RAM: 1024 MB HD space: 6.0 GB Video: NVidia 6600, ATI is not supported. Recommended system configuration for running EVE-Online: OS: Ubuntu 7+, Suse 10+, Linspire 6 CPU: 2GHZ RAM: 2GB HD space: 6.0 GB Video: Nvidia 7600 or later, ATI is not supported. Cider: Minimal system requirements OS: OS X 10.4.9 or later. CPU: Intel based computer with CPU speed equal or greater than 1.8GHz , the client does not run on a PPC. Video: ATI X1600 or NVidia 7300 RAM: 1024 MB or more HD space: 6 GB Recommended system configuration for running EVE-Online: OS: OS X 10.4.9 or later CPU: Intel based CPU 2GHz or better, the client does not run on a PPC. Video: ATI X1900 or Nvidia 7600 RAM: 2 GB HD space: 6 GB or more How do I install EVE on Macintosh The installation experience on Cider Runtime is identical to any Mac OS X installation procedure. In General, Cider Runtime uses a simple drag and drop installation, i.e. into the Applications folder. 1. Download the EVE Online client. The client will be packaged as a .dmg file. 2. Double-click the .dmg file. 3. Drag the EVE Online Icon to your Applications folder. NOTE: EVE Online may be unstable if run from a disk or installation package. You can download EVE Online for Macintosh here. How to install Eve on Linux Download the package for your distribution: openSUSE Ubuntu, Linspire The user installs EVE Online using a graphical or command line package manager. On installation a Starter Kit will install program shortcuts and installation configuration files. On launch, via the Start Menu shortcut or command line, the Starter Kit will download and install all necessary files for the application on Cedega. Tick the Internet radio button to download the latest Game Package release from the Internet and then click Continue. Patches are automatically downloaded and applied using the regular Auto-patcher. How to connect to Multiplicity: 1. Run the client 2. Once the log in screen appears type in 87.237.38.51 in the server Combo box. 3. Enter your username and password that you had on Tranquility the 2nd of October as the mirror was taken from Tranquility at that time. 4. Click Log in. 5. Profit? Feel free to discuss this news here. kieron Director of Community Relations, EVE Online EVE Online, CCP Games Email/Netfang Look Ma, I'm in a Dev thread! Oh wait...

kessah Blood Blind	Posted - 2007.11.03 17:03:00 - [2] Edited by: kessah on 03/11/2007 17:03:59 you beauty! now i never need use windows ever again. edit. never been first in a dev post before. kessah does a little jig -------------------------------------------------------- [Video] Forever Pirate 3
Ranko Antares Frontier The Fifth Race	Posted - 2007.11.03 17:37:00 - [3] Finally..... I can nuke my windows install and go back to Linux and OSX, never ever have to worry about using Windows again. --- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ^_^
Heraklitus Nomidzon 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.11.03 17:41:00 - [4] I love you.
Ga'Rahn	Posted - 2007.11.03 17:41:00 - [5] Edited by: Ga''Rahn on 03/11/2007 17:41:08 This is a wonderful thing. I kinda wish you had gone the direction of a true port instead of using cider for the Mac build. But beggars can't be choosers. It runs well enough on my macbook, so I can't complain!
Elf Zwolf	Posted - 2007.11.03 17:57:00 - [6] ATi is not supported
Rafau Maco H-E-X Industries	Posted - 2007.11.03 18:13:00 - [7] very nice! glad i have nvidia :)
Pivalak Happy hOur Mining and industry	Posted - 2007.11.03 18:19:00 - [8] "ATI is not supported" :( Any hint on when the official Linux client will support ATI cards?
Helison Gallente Times of Ancar Pure.	Posted - 2007.11.03 18:24:00 - [9] Originally by: CCP kieron ATI is not supported. Very bad news. Is it just not officially supported or is it sure, that it doesn¦t work?
alpheon Caldari Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.03 18:36:00 - [10] Awesome. If you keep this up I'll never have to install vista!

Drudenhaus Caldari Initrode The Core Collective	Posted - 2007.11.03 18:40:00 - [11] I see Cedega being mentioned... Is this not a native client?
alpheon Caldari Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.03 18:45:00 - [12] My ignorant question for the day: How do I set it to connect to Multiplicity? Thanks.
Zeneth Entorion	Posted - 2007.11.03 18:48:00 - [13] Downloaded... installed... ran... splash screen... splash screen goes away... No login screen comes up. =(
VCBee 118	Posted - 2007.11.03 18:49:00 - [14] For those interested WINE and Crossover provide limited support for ATI cards. Crossover actively supports EVE Online and apart from not being officially supported by CCP does all the tasks this Cedega wrapper does on install. EVE runs almostly flawlessly already under these solutions.
Aman Grusi Amarr Nebula Rasa Holdings Nebula Rasa	Posted - 2007.11.03 18:58:00 - [15] Will ATI be supported at some point in the future?
farfrael	Posted - 2007.11.03 19:12:00 - [16] For those asking, this is NOT a native client for linux but a wrapped exe with a pared-down version of cedega now, as I really don't think much about the wrapped client, the only thing I would like to know is whether eve will still work with the NORMAL version of cedega now and in the future or whether transgaming will only support this rump cedega? (the answer should be an obvious yes but you never know)
Drudenhaus Caldari Initrode The Core Collective	Posted - 2007.11.03 19:44:00 - [17] So there isn't really any benefit to using this client vs the windows client with cedega other than official support? I'm more concerned about performance than support as my client works with Cedega.
Zeminy Minmatar The Black Rabbits Academy The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2007.11.03 19:51:00 - [18] This is actually very disappointing to say the least! Now we have to pay to play EVE and pay to play eve on linux! I mean seriously. Why not go with an open source solution like wine and we don't have to pay, than go with cedega and having to pay an additional fee every month.
Che Martino	Posted - 2007.11.03 19:55:00 - [19] Actually, cedega is included in the linux client for free, so no extra cost...
patroklus murakami	Posted - 2007.11.03 19:57:00 - [20] Superb news, I look forward to playing Eve windows-free in future:) I've downloaded the Mac client but I can't find a way to connect to Multiplicity server to try it out which is a tad disappointing... Do we have to wait until 6 Nov to play with the Mac version? Or are am I missing something? Or did somebody screw up at CCP?

Che Martino	Posted - 2007.11.03 20:03:00 - [21] Well there seems to be some trouble with the multiple user install on linux. I have several permissions issue. The last one points to unavailable files (not present): /usr/local/games//.transgaming_global//Fonts/TGMarlett.ttf /usr/local/games//.transgaming_global//Fonts/tg_font_version (given that the game is installed in /usr/local/games/) I'm using debian, but I'm quite sure that is not the problem. Gonna try the single install right now.
deathlords	Posted - 2007.11.03 20:10:00 - [22] Thanks, but wouldn't it be nicer to, have the client as a tarball or .sh script (like Doom) that installs in user account. I'm not quite sure what the current setup does. I've checked the files in the .deb and it seems that it is an install of Cadega. Soooo, is this going to be just Eve that runs under Wine-line environment? It doesn't seem to be a native client. Comments?
Zeminy Minmatar The Black Rabbits Academy The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2007.11.03 20:15:00 - [23] I think it is worth mentioning that you will have to install python22 before the package will be installed ... however the installer does tell you that ... just a note
Drudenhaus Caldari Initrode The Core Collective	Posted - 2007.11.03 20:20:00 - [24] You can just use something like rpm2targz to convert the rpm. I'm a gentoo user with no inclination to install rpm (11 dependancies of clutter) or dpkg (22 dependancies of clutter).
Che Martino	Posted - 2007.11.03 20:26:00 - [25] deathlord: It is indeed cedega running the windows client it seems. So if you have the stuff working fine with wine, I see no reason to change...
Phred Jonz Caldari Ratio Decidendi Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.03 20:28:00 - [26] Well, I think this is a great step and I'm sure CCP intends support for ATI and others in the future. This is certainly a step in the right direction, no matter how it is currently implemented! Cheers, PJ
Serbina An Eye For An Eye Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.11.03 20:28:00 - [27] So where do i submit bug reports on the installer.
Zeminy Minmatar The Black Rabbits Academy The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2007.11.03 20:37:00 - [28] Originally by: alpheon My ignorant question for the day: How do I set it to connect to Multiplicity? Thanks. When I try and connect to multiplicity using the IP address supplied it just tells me incompatible version. DOH!
Alit Neroon	Posted - 2007.11.03 20:45:00 - [29] I`m gonna give it a try, my pc has a 1,65 GHz. AMD Sempron, and it runs fine on Windows, but I hate Windowz, so i hope it runs good enough on linux... I`ll be sure to tell y`all how it works out...
Drudenhaus Caldari Initrode The Core Collective	Posted - 2007.11.03 20:55:00 - [30] Please remove lines 44-47 from .updater/cedegaUpdateChecker and lines 93-96 from /usr/bin/eve or at least give us the option to run as root in the future.

Drudenhaus Caldari Initrode The Core Collective	Posted - 2007.11.03 21:05:00 - [31] Edited by: Drudenhaus on 03/11/2007 21:07:27 Initially I had an issue where the client would load the splash screen and then would turn into a black window. I copied my prefs.ini from my normal cedega Eve install over this official client's prefs.ini and that problem went away. Other than that (along with removing the root user checks), it seems to work at the same capacity as my normal cedega Eve install. Additionally, if you're using a distro that isn't on the supported list you may need to install the rpm with --nodeps as it probably won't detect much of anything on your system.
deathlords	Posted - 2007.11.03 21:06:00 - [32] Originally by: Che Martino deathlord: It is indeed cedega running the windows client it seems. So if you have the stuff working fine with wine, I see no reason to change... At least the good thing is that EVE will continue to run under Wine now. So I'm happy regardless.
Admiral Seafort DarkStar 1	Posted - 2007.11.03 21:09:00 - [33] Only Tranquility is in the list of servers when I start EVE on my MacBook Pro. Obviously it says the release is incompatible, so I can't actually connect to anything. ----- It is well that war is so terrible. We should grow too fond of it.
Drudenhaus Caldari Initrode The Core Collective	Posted - 2007.11.03 21:11:00 - [34] Originally by: Admiral Seafort Only Tranquility is in the list of servers when I start EVE on my MacBook Pro. Obviously it says the release is incompatible, so I can't actually connect to anything. As per kieron's post: 2. Once the log in screen appears type in 87.237.38.51 in the server Combo box. 3. Enter your username and password that you had on Tranquility the 2nd of October as the mirror was taken from Tranquility at that time. You'll need to download a patch and then you'll be set to log in.
Che Martino	Posted - 2007.11.03 21:16:00 - [35] Ok, I tested the single user install... I doesn't work for me, for the very same reasons I left cedega to use wine instead: the numpad is not recognized, and my alternative keymap screws everything up... so I can't even type the ip adress. Also, alt+tab doesn't work. On the bright side, the installation for single user install was flowless on my debian 64 bits (unstable), and the client launched out of the box. Keep on the good work guys, and fix those damn bugs...
Sokor Jei	Posted - 2007.11.03 21:25:00 - [36] Will the upgraded graphics engine/art coming trinity 2 be supported or will we be forced into using eve classic?
Aethen Fijam	Posted - 2007.11.03 21:34:00 - [37] For all those asking about ATI: Since AMD has released the specifications quite recently my guess would be that you will need to wait until a full featured driver is written and incorporated into Xorg and Cedega catches up on it. Unfortunately, my machine is too slow to handle Cedega's emulation so I still have to play on Windows.
Admiral Seafort DarkStar 1	Posted - 2007.11.03 21:34:00 - [38] Originally by: Drudenhaus Originally by: Admiral Seafort Only Tranquility is in the list of servers when I start EVE on my MacBook Pro. Obviously it says the release is incompatible, so I can't actually connect to anything. As per kieron's post: 2. Once the log in screen appears type in 87.237.38.51 in the server Combo box. 3. Enter your username and password that you had on Tranquility the 2nd of October as the mirror was taken from Tranquility at that time. You'll need to download a patch and then you'll be set to log in. Ah I thought that block of text was only for the Linux install so I didn't read it carefully. Thanks. No windowed mode makes me sad =( ----- It is well that war is so terrible. We should grow too fond of it.
Epicurus Gallente	Posted - 2007.11.03 21:34:00 - [39] So basically its not really a linux client its a windows client running in wine? Shame.. got all excited thinking it was a proper linux client
Aethen Fijam Gallente	Posted - 2007.11.03 21:39:00 - [40] I am afraid it would be impossible to port this game as it is to Linux without rewriting it from a scratch. Even though I appreciate that CCP thinks of players on platforms other than Windows.

Alit Neroon	Posted - 2007.11.03 21:44:00 - [41] I haven`t tried running Eve through WINE, in quite a while. As for this Cedega-version, when i run /usr/bin/eve, a blank window with the text "configuration dashboard" (or something like that) appears, stays there for about ten seconds. This window is then replaced by the EOL-rev-Splash-screen. The splash-screen vanishes after about fifteen seconds, and then vanishes, too. I don`t get the login-dialogue, it just crashes, without any form of error-message. (and yes, I launched it through Konsole, and checked the output.)
Epicurus Gallente	Posted - 2007.11.03 21:44:00 - [42] will be interesting to see what, if any, differences there are between this and say a wine version.. I am downloading it now and have 20 mins left.. I am using Ubuntu 7.10, Nvidia 8800GTX and get a good frame rate. Better that I thought tbh
Zareph Minmatar Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.03 21:57:00 - [43] I hope my account was active on 10/2/07. I just recently started playing again after hearing that a Mac client was in the work. While all answers are replies, not all replies are answers.
Random Avenger	Posted - 2007.11.03 22:17:00 - [44] My initial observations are that the mac client has about the same performance as the windows version in CrossOver, but is considerably buggier. The biggest issues I have with this client are: Its nearly impossible to zoom in using the two-finger scroll method on a MacBook, it randomly switches between zooming in and out. There is a drawling glitch that becomes apparent when rotating the camera around the ship, a diagonal line from the top left to the bottom right of the screen, it looks like each area is being updated at separate times. The option to go fullscreen but keep the menu bar intact is no longer available, which makes it difficult to use Spaces. I'm using a 2 GHz MacBook with 2 GB of RAM.
Delana Locke	Posted - 2007.11.03 22:58:00 - [45] Thank you; one less reason to boot back into Windows! I will be testing this under Ubuntu 7.10 with a nVidia 7300.
Mindless Producer	Posted - 2007.11.03 23:00:00 - [46] Originally by: Drudenhaus Edited by: Drudenhaus on 03/11/2007 21:07:27 Initially I had an issue where the client would load the splash screen and then would turn into a black window. (...) I got this same problem. But Drudenhaus fix don`t work ;/
Drudenhaus Caldari Initrode The Core Collective	Posted - 2007.11.03 23:12:00 - [47] Originally by: Mindless Producer Originally by: Drudenhaus Edited by: Drudenhaus on 03/11/2007 21:07:27 Initially I had an issue where the client would load the splash screen and then would turn into a black window. (...) I got this same problem. But Drudenhaus fix don`t work ;/ When you copy your cedega prefs.ini over the official client's prefs.ini be sure to set the eula agreement line to =0
Dio Boli	Posted - 2007.11.03 23:16:00 - [48] First off, this is awesome, thanks so very much CCP. Second: Problems. -Two finger zoom/scroll on macbook is not working, it just kind of bounces. -After/During warp, random images show up on screen, icons, textures, etc. -After jumping, bits of the interface stick on screen, i.e. a gigantic overview hovering in space, or the loading box hovering quite like the monolith on 2001. When I tried to take a screenshot the program wrapped itself up in a blanket of quit.
Ares Splinter Dark Centuri Inc. Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.11.03 23:18:00 - [49] Originally by: Random Avenger My initial observations are that the mac client has about the same performance as the windows version in CrossOver, but is considerably buggier. The biggest issues I have with this client are: Its nearly impossible to zoom in using the two-finger scroll method on a MacBook, it randomly switches between zooming in and out. There is a drawling glitch that becomes apparent when rotating the camera around the ship, a diagonal line from the top left to the bottom right of the screen, it looks like each area is being updated at separate times. The option to go fullscreen but keep the menu bar intact is no longer available, which makes it difficult to use Spaces. I'm using a 2 GHz MacBook with 2 GB of RAM. Macbook pro 15" w 2gb of ram and a 128mb x1600 I have the same camera issue, but #3 doesnt bother me and #2 doesnt happen to me. Awesome job CCP, very impressed :)
Yumis Opinicus Operations	Posted - 2007.11.03 23:18:00 - [50] CCP I love you, this is the best update for me ever

clizz Amarr The X-Trading Company	Posted - 2007.11.03 23:20:00 - [51] tested with the macbook (not the pro version) and it's work fine, but where is the windowed mode? anyhow, good job ccp, thx
Kutscher	Posted - 2007.11.03 23:27:00 - [52] works fine on my ubuntu 7.10. easy to install, only thing i've found was the eve window (windowed mode) won't close after quit game
Epicurus Gallente	Posted - 2007.11.03 23:53:00 - [53] Been playing this for about 20-30mins Apart from not getting it in window mode I found it running as good as my running it under wine I would be interested in knowing what the main difference between this new version and installing the windows client under Cedega/Wine Resizing the screen to max res worked fine Sound worked fine Did not need to have any problems. :) I am getting between 35-50fps in space and 65+ in stations which is about what I am getting on my wine installed version which sadly is still half of what I get in windows.. I have started to play eve more and more running under wine now and using windows less and less.. :) all good as far as I am concerned
Buta Chan	Posted - 2007.11.03 23:59:00 - [54] Edited by: Buta Chan on 04/11/2007 00:02:35 Originally by: Drudenhaus Originally by: Mindless Producer Originally by: Drudenhaus Edited by: Drudenhaus on 03/11/2007 21:07:27 Initially I had an issue where the client would load the splash screen and then would turn into a black window. (...) I got this same problem. But Drudenhaus fix don`t work ;/ When you copy your cedega prefs.ini over the official client's prefs.ini be sure to set the eula agreement line to =0 I have the same problem, but I naver rand Cedega on this box... Is there a workaround? I looked for prefs.ini lechium@Huginn:~$ find ~ -iname 'prefs.ini' /home/lechium/.cedega/EVE Online/c_drive/Local Settings/Application Data/CCP/EVE/settings/prefs.ini The said file was empty, however... can someone post the contents of theirs, so I can tailor it for my machine? thanks
Aeon Jonas Caldari The Caldari Confederation	Posted - 2007.11.04 00:30:00 - [55] Can I have your babies?
Kanerix Wolfe Caldari The Storm Knights	Posted - 2007.11.04 00:35:00 - [56] Initially it refused to shake hands with the server properly, but eventually figured out how. Why is it that the Mac OS X version visually looks more appealing than the Windows version? Also it seems to run at a much much lower framerate. Of course that might have something to do with running Mac OS X on an Athlon 64 x2... Anyway, this is good news! Cheers and thanks for the effort on our behalf!
Muscaat Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2007.11.04 00:39:00 - [57] I'm just installing the Linux client now, and I'm so excited I may forget to go to sleep tonight. Those complaining about ATi being unsupported: I suspect this is more to do with the lack of decent stable drivers for Linux than anything else (nVidia and Intel both have released decent drivers, while fglrx is widely panned). And the one benefit I can see to having an official client over Windows client + Eve: as things stand CCP are under no obligation to offer any support for any OS other than Windows (though graciously they do). With the releases of these wrapped clients there's now a mandate for them to support and bugfix, and having Transgaming devs onside will only be a good thing, right?
Muscaat Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2007.11.04 00:52:00 - [58] Originally by: Alit Neroon I haven`t tried running Eve through WINE, in quite a while. As for this Cedega-version, when i run /usr/bin/eve, a blank window with the text "configuration dashboard" (or something like that) appears, stays there for about ten seconds. This window is then replaced by the EOL-rev-Splash-screen. The splash-screen vanishes after about fifteen seconds, and then vanishes, too. I don`t get the login-dialogue, it just crashes, without any form of error-message. (and yes, I launched it through Konsole, and checked the output.) I get the same: I also have the error Quote: ~/.cedega/.updater/gddb.py:26: RuntimeWarning: Python C API version mismatch for module gddb_parser: This Python has API version 1013, module gddb_parser has version 1012. when I try and load it. No other useful debug output.
Shinzann Beast Cat Industries	Posted - 2007.11.04 01:02:00 - [59] Edited by: Shinzann on 04/11/2007 01:04:47 Is it supposed to bring up the new login screen like I see when I log into Sisi while running XP, or the older Rev II login screen? Edit 1: Is it possible to save that dat file it downloads? As much as I love watching my broadband connection download ~785 MB like nobody's business, I'd prefer to keep it around in case I need to reinstall the client again. === Q u o t e: If the servers aren't up, its not a hotfix.
Conniving Connivier Amarr Dirt Nap Squad INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.11.04 01:12:00 - [60] Hi I have the following problem: I get to login screen, put 87.237.38.51, and login with my login/pass as of October 2nd. Than I get message "Incompatible Version", and only option I can choose is "OK". From here on the client does not give me an option to update. Any suggestions? thanks, Conni

Kowaii Hitori StoneDogS Sylph Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.04 01:20:00 - [61] Originally by: Drudenhaus Please remove lines 44-47 from .updater/cedegaUpdateChecker and lines 93-96 from /usr/bin/eve or at least give us the option to run as root in the future. you don't run games as root, work around it. [url=http://www.sylph-alliance.org/killboard/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=7973] [/url]
Che Martino	Posted - 2007.11.04 01:27:00 - [62] Originally by: Shinzann Edited by: Shinzann on 04/11/2007 01:21:31 Edit 1: Is it possible to save that dat file it downloads? As much as I love watching my broadband connection download ~785 MB like nobody's business, I'd prefer to keep it around in case I need to reinstall the client again. The files is downloaded in some folder in /tmp. I simply made a copy of it while it was installing...
Zathi Shaitan	Posted - 2007.11.04 01:29:00 - [63] Originally by: Drudenhaus I see Cedega being mentioned... Is this not a native client? Of course not. This is just an -"official" and sanctioned by CCP- way of having what many users have for many months now, using Cedega and Wine. :P
Zathi Shaitan	Posted - 2007.11.04 01:31:00 - [64] Originally by: Aethen Fijam I am afraid it would be impossible to port this game as it is to Linux without rewriting it from a scratch. Even though I appreciate that CCP thinks of players on platforms other than Windows. No, they really don't... if they did, they would have thought of a non-winblows client... since the start, and not only now, as damage control.
Tris Haleth	Posted - 2007.11.04 02:33:00 - [65] Originally by: Conniving Connivier Hi I have the following problem: I get to login screen, put 87.237.38.51, and login with my login/pass as of October 2nd. Than I get message "Incompatible Version", and only option I can choose is "OK". From here on the client does not give me an option to update. Any suggestions? thanks, Conni I had that problem. Turned out I had copy/pasted the IP address and there was a trailing "space". I used backspace to delete it, and then it "saw" the update and downloaded it.
Tris Haleth	Posted - 2007.11.04 02:36:00 - [66] I can't find any key combination that gets me out temporarily (except, of course, ctrl-q and restarting). I like to "tab out" to run a spreadsheet with manufacturing calculations. How do I do that with the Ubuntu version?
strive nails DEATH'S LEGION	Posted - 2007.11.04 02:56:00 - [67] Edited by: strive nails on 04/11/2007 02:56:24 what about windowed mode and multiple accounts? (mac) > strive nails - pod killer and implant trader
Shinzann Beast Cat Industries	Posted - 2007.11.04 03:23:00 - [68] Originally by: Che Martino Originally by: Shinzann Edited by: Shinzann on 04/11/2007 01:21:31 Edit 1: Is it possible to save that dat file it downloads? As much as I love watching my broadband connection download ~785 MB like nobody's business, I'd prefer to keep it around in case I need to reinstall the client again. The files is downloaded in some folder in /tmp. I simply made a copy of it while it was installing... Alas, when I went to go look for it in the tmp, it was after installation and had been erased =( === Q u o t e: If the servers aren't up, its not a hotfix.
Xre Sloracknor	Posted - 2007.11.04 03:41:00 - [69] Of course it will be. You grab it while its installing, after its done downloading.
Caffeine Infused	Posted - 2007.11.04 05:12:00 - [70] Originally by: strive nails what about windowed mode and multiple accounts? (mac) This, very much this.

strive nails DEATH'S LEGION	Posted - 2007.11.04 06:03:00 - [71] i'm getting about 40 fps in space on my macbook pro c2d with x1600. in windows via bootcamp it was more like 120 fps without any kind of performance tweaking. while 40 fps are totally fine in general space flight, i wonder how this will perform in, say, a 10 v 10 engagement. for comparison: with crossover i get about 30 fps in space, but like 3-5 fps in a 10 v 10 fight. also, i watched the livestream of eve fanfest for a little, more specifically the new graphics. how will the mac client handle this? i would also appreciate a statement on windowed mode and multiple instances. because, let's face it, quite a large portion of eve gameplay is based around alts. > strive nails - pod killer and implant trader
Echrei	Posted - 2007.11.04 06:56:00 - [72] Doesn't help me here with a PowerPC processor.
Kravek Rave Technologies Inc. C0VEN	Posted - 2007.11.04 06:57:00 - [73] Edited by: Kravek on 04/11/2007 06:58:13 Originally by: Drudenhaus Originally by: Mindless Producer Originally by: Drudenhaus Edited by: Drudenhaus on 03/11/2007 21:07:27 Initially I had an issue where the client would load the splash screen and then would turn into a black window. (...) I got this same problem. But Drudenhaus fix don`t work ;/ When you copy your cedega prefs.ini over the official client's prefs.ini be sure to set the eula agreement line to =0 After this game sometimes start... but most of time i get only that black window.
Aiko Intaki	Posted - 2007.11.04 07:03:00 - [74] I like the Mac version a lot. I only found two things that were noticeably amiss... 1.) The audio '*****les' - periodically and seemingly on some actions or mouse movements. Apparently C R A C K L E S is a swear word... /shrug 2.) We're forced to play in Full Screen mode. Of the two, the second option is the most problematic for me. All the other ways of playing EvE Online on the Mac at the moment seem to fail in this respect (so it must not be a trivial issue) - usually with a failure in syncing the mouse cursor or screen properly. As I usually play two characters from a single computer, this is somewhat of a disappointment. Single-player though, runs very well and will come in quite handy. Still, single-player full-screen is currently possible under Crossover, Parallels, etc... so it's not really "new", so much as now officially supported. Unfortunately, this is not the "able to delete my Bootcamp partition" release I was hoping for because of the limitation to Full-screen play.
Merten Vlach Minmatar Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2007.11.04 07:30:00 - [75] Got the client running in my regular MacBook and with a superficial test, everything worked ok. I got the mentioned graphic glitches as well, though - mostly when docking and undocking. But me likes this.
VCBee 118	Posted - 2007.11.04 07:39:00 - [76] Porting EVE to UNIX (lin/mac/sol) is as easy as paying icculus (of icculus.org fame/sdl thru opengl) to port the engine and for on going patches. The EVE client is mostly stackless python and DX calls with mapped opengl alternatives so porting should really be a valid option. This is done for a lot of other games and their respective servers. It is kind of a shame that CCP didn't sort through the options before diving into this and it will leave them with a limited future under Linux at least as wine pushes ahead with a stablised DX9c and DX10 with support from Crossover. The bright side of course is that while Cedega can support the EVE client there is nothing stopping WINE/Crossover doing the same, which saves use from .net2 rubbish and the like. From my point of view, as a WINE user, this is a far more important step by CCP than releasing a wrapper client and I thank them for it. :) Heres to a start in the right direction. Now all we need is the new engine to work nicely as well! :D
El'basin Amarr The New Eve Order	Posted - 2007.11.04 07:46:00 - [77] Unfortunatly I have the mentioned problems with the graphics while comming out of warp and docking aswell. Further more the fps is not much to celebrate, which neither seams to be just for me. Other then that Im looking forward to the moment I can get on to TQ with it.
Drudenhaus Caldari Initrode The Core Collective	Posted - 2007.11.04 07:49:00 - [78] Originally by: Kowaii Hitori Originally by: Drudenhaus Please remove lines 44-47 from .updater/cedegaUpdateChecker and lines 93-96 from /usr/bin/eve or at least give us the option to run as root in the future. you don't run games as root, work around it. I thought it was apparent I did work around it seeing as how I typed out the fix in my post.
Svengali MASS Ministry Of Amarrian Secret Service	Posted - 2007.11.04 08:46:00 - [79] Edited by: Svengali on 04/11/2007 08:52:19 To get windowed mode on the mac, do Apple-Enter. For 2 clients I had to dupe the package.
Solbright altaltaltalt	Posted - 2007.11.04 09:10:00 - [80] Splash'n'Freeze for me. Same as for the closed beta. Wine works fine on Tranquility. Info from Eve/Cedega Config program: cpu: Unknown CPU Type (Athlon XP(Barton)) cpu_ghz: 1.76 memory: 1010 videocard_manufacturer: NVIDIA Corporation videocard_type: GeForce 7600 GS/AGP/SSE/3DNOW! videocard_ram: 256 agp_aperture_size: 92 videocard_driver_version: 2.1.0 NVIDIA 97.55 soundcard: C-Media PCI CMI8738-MC6 (model 55) at 0xe000, irq 1 soundcard_driver: ALSA Version 1.0.14rc2 machine_bitness: 32 kernel: 2.6.15-27-desktop x_version: Xorg Version 7.1.1 distro: Ubuntu 6.06 (dapper) GUI version: eve-000062

jonfr	Posted - 2007.11.04 09:13:00 - [81] Now I can finally stop using Windows to play eve online. Now I just have to get it to work with Gentoo Linux. ---- Sign has been stolen by ugly dwarf from a unknown solar system.
Pivalak Happy hOur Mining and industry	Posted - 2007.11.04 09:27:00 - [82] Originally by: Epicurus So basically its not really a linux client its a windows client running in wine? Not Wine, but Cedega. Cedega started as an spin off of an old version of Wine, and has diverged from it since then. Crossover Linux, on the other hand, keeps the link with the Wine code base, and therefore contributes back the progresses and work they do on their product. This means, aside from other opensource concerns, that Cedega won't benefit from any new advancements in Wine and, at the same time, will have to work out their bugs and issues alone. I have been a user of both products and must say I find Crossover Linux to work much better than Cedega. With the latter, EVE often stopped working after a patch was released, and had to wait several days for a solution to be found. With Crossover, everything just ran smoothly, and some details even worked better. I think Codeweavers (makers of Crossover Linux) would have been a much better choice for the collaboration agreement with CCP leading to the Linux client: not only we would have a higher quality product, but would be contributing and improving Wine in the process. But, of course, that's just my personal opinion.
Pivalak Happy hOur Mining and industry	Posted - 2007.11.04 09:32:00 - [83] Originally by: Zathi Shaitan No, they really don't... if they did, they would have thought of a non-winblows client... since the start, and not only now, as damage control. Well, the major issue is that they wrote their engine using DirectX, so that makes much more difficult to port the client to any other platform than Windows. Had they used OpenGL, a native client would have been on its way long ago probably. Somehow it would have been nice if they had switched to an OpenGL engine with Trinity2 but it is understandable they didn't. After all, they already have the know-how and a lot of code written which uses DirectX, so such technology change would have been complex and more expensive.
strive nails DEATH'S LEGION	Posted - 2007.11.04 09:54:00 - [84] Originally by: Svengali Edited by: Svengali on 04/11/2007 08:52:19 To get windowed mode on the mac, do Apple-Enter. For 2 clients I had to dupe the package. just tested this - works perfectly fine. awesome :) for the record - i've got no graphical issues whatsoever, tested station, anomaly, belt, general warping > strive nails - pod killer and implant trader
jonfr	Posted - 2007.11.04 10:11:00 - [85] I can run eve online far as login screen without issues. But when I try to connect to the test server it ask me to download a update. ---- Sign has been stolen by ugly dwarf from a unknown solar system.
Abassis Minmatar Information Science Security	Posted - 2007.11.04 10:29:00 - [86] Edited by: Abassis on 04/11/2007 10:31:54 Originally by: Svengali Edited by: Svengali on 04/11/2007 08:52:19 To get windowed mode on the mac, do Apple-Enter. w00t :D I didn't seem to get a framerate drop switching from fullscreen to windowed which is good. Getting between 30 and 40 fps in space on my Macbook Pro (2.2 C2D, 2gb RAM, GeForce 8600M GT 128mb). I've yet to see the graphical glitches others have mentioned, warping and jumping look completely normal to me. I'd complain about the probable FPS during combat but to be honest I'm such a carebear now that unless my friends force me into it I hardly ever PvP xD
CoJest	Posted - 2007.11.04 11:19:00 - [87] install under openSuSE successful. i had been running EVE under Crossover. there are some graghics issues (eg some map dislpays) that the testserver patch seems to have remedied. :) thanx EVE.
Kazuhiro Takishi	Posted - 2007.11.04 11:43:00 - [88] Yet to try this, but thanks CCP, It is about time. This means I no longer have to boot out of windows and into linux to respond to support calls. YAY. As some have complained about how this is emulated DX, I say get of your high horse.. for the moment a linux client is a minority market. Be thankful we have it. Lets hope more games makers follow suite.
Noveron Caldari Long Live Me	Posted - 2007.11.04 11:46:00 - [89] Anyone knows if it will be possible to run multiple instances (aka 2 accounts)? ---
Wabby Bel Amarr Paxton Industries Paxton Federation	Posted - 2007.11.04 11:46:00 - [90] When might we see ATI support ? Cedega: Minimum System Requirements: OS: Ubuntu 7+, Suse 10+, Linspire 6 CPU: CPU speed equal or greater than 1,8GHz Centrino RAM: 1024 MB HD space: 6.0 GB Video: NVidia 6600, ATI is not supported.

Raquel Smith Caldari Freedom-Technologies	Posted - 2007.11.04 11:56:00 - [91] Originally by: CCP kieron but most importantly it contains formal support for Mac OS X and Linux! Yay! I can play Eve again! (Quick, Someone port evemon to mac!) -- Creator of The Ruby API Library
Mortimus Gallente Ordos Humanitas Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.11.04 11:56:00 - [92] runs beautifully for me so far on my Macbook Pro - thanks heaps CCP! :)
Cieries	Posted - 2007.11.04 12:13:00 - [93] Edited by: Cieries on 04/11/2007 12:14:42 Slackware 12 here. Installed the RPM package (ignored the dependancies) and ran the installation fine. However, since i'm on an awfully slow connection, it's taking forever. Is there any way i can use the data files from EVE Windows and download just the binaries?
Sylfamas Caldari Making Our Way to Stars Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.11.04 12:17:00 - [94] First of all, CONGRATULATIONS CCP Second of all give us a fast download link or something people are going to die if they have to wait one hour to download Mac Client. You know us , mac users, we're crazy :D. And i hope this is not how you're going to leave it, especially as other game publishers ported their games for mac with cider but they run even better than on windows. Optimise it a little bit :D Thanks CCP, just made my day -----------------Signature------------------------- I only have one rule: Everyone fights, no one quits.
Khan Soriano Beyond Divinity Inc Terra Incognita.	Posted - 2007.11.04 12:18:00 - [95] Finally!! EVE was the last and only reason I had to use Windows ----- Arbitrator - Life & Death
Commander Kahn'Alzaor	Posted - 2007.11.04 12:41:00 - [96] Just getting started tooling with Gutsy 7.10 - Much love CCP
Kravek Rave Technologies Inc. C0VEN	Posted - 2007.11.04 12:50:00 - [97] Anybody have any fix to that black window appearing after splash screen?
Crimsonjade Stupid People Always Need Killing Insurgency	Posted - 2007.11.04 13:00:00 - [98] oh Man you just made my day ccp ! TY sirs
Makko Verillia Caldari The Graduates Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2007.11.04 13:01:00 - [99] I can't connect at all. Continuyes to check server, but nothing. Hmm. OMG, it's full of drones.
Aiko Intaki	Posted - 2007.11.04 13:45:00 - [100] Originally by: Svengali Edited by: Svengali on 04/11/2007 08:52:19 To get windowed mode on the mac, do Apple-Enter. For 2 clients I had to dupe the package. Oh damn... that's nice. Thank you. This was the app I was looking for after all. Guess I get to delete boot camp tomorrow night!

Real Poison Minmatar Mutually Assured Destruction Dark Matter Coalition	Posted - 2007.11.04 14:08:00 - [101] anyone seeding a torrent with the .dmg for mac? the link from original post points to a server that is way too slow :(
Nimtra Minmatar	Posted - 2007.11.04 14:28:00 - [102] Well Ill keep on running wine with the new ATI drivers the performance improved a bit . ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Nimtras Startsript - The fastes way to start Quickfit on Linux ( oh yeah gotta love ads ;) )

CCP Explorer	Posted - 2007.11.04 14:58:00 - [103] Originally by: Zeminy This is actually very disappointing to say the least! Now we have to pay to play EVE and pay to play eve on linux! I mean seriously. Why not go with an open source solution like wine and we don't have to pay, than go with cedega and having to pay an additional fee every month. There is no extra fee. It's all included in your regular EVE online subscription fee. I repeat, this is not a trap! Originally by: Drudenhaus So there isn't really any benefit to using this client vs the windows client with cedega other than official support? I'm more concerned about performance than support as my client works with Cedega. We've worked closely with TransGaming on resolving all issues with playing EVE on Cider and Cedega. Official support is very important and TransGaming is contractually obligated to resolve any issues that may arise within a certain specified timeframe. Originally by: Serbina So where do i submit bug reports on the installer. If you have any problems then please read this and submit a bug report. Originally by: Dio Boli First off, this is awesome, thanks so very much CCP. Second: Problems... Bug report, please. Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson Software Director EVE Online, CCP Games

Aka Ten	Posted - 2007.11.04 15:34:00 - [104] Is there any chance of getting another clone off Tranquility before the official launch? I reactivated my account as soon as I heard this news, and I'm sure many others did too, but the account is still listed as inactive on Multiplicity. Thanks CCP! This is a huge step in the right direction!

CCP Explorer	Posted - 2007.11.04 15:40:00 - [105] Edited by: CCP Explorer on 04/11/2007 15:40:24 Originally by: Aka Ten Is there any chance of getting another clone off Tranquility before the official launch? I reactivated my account as soon as I heard this news, and I'm sure many others did too, but the account is still listed as inactive on Multiplicity. Go here and mention that you want to be re-activated on Multiplicity. Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson Software Director EVE Online, CCP Games

Makko Verillia Caldari The Graduates Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2007.11.04 15:57:00 - [106] Well, after doing five reinstalls, I got 4 times nothing connecting, and the 5th a black screen. I shut vertex shaders and piexel shaders down to 1.2, no go. What I did do to get connected was take my current EVE install under WINE, copy it into the .cedega install directory, and make the cedega install EVE.bak so I didn't lose it. Now, it works. The cedega installed one does not. I'm at a loss.
Sylfamas Caldari Making Our Way to Stars Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.11.04 16:42:00 - [107] Okay after playing with it a little bit i can say it's a great deal that we have mac support and linux support now. BUT, there are some issues. Not with bugs, but with performance. 55-75 frames per second in windows in the same system and 15-35 frames per second under mac os ? I have played other games ported with Transgaming's technology but they haven't really done a so well job on this one. I mean i had a -5 fps in other ported games in comparison with the windows version, but here the drop is astronomical. Even the ratting becomes boring. I don't even want to see how will Trinity 2 perform under cider. I will stick with my windows installation for playing eve for now. Great Job CCP but hope you'll improve the client on performance. Thank You :) -----------------Signature------------------------- I only have one rule: Everyone fights, no one quits.
Nomad Elench	Posted - 2007.11.04 16:54:00 - [108] I dont know about you guys, but I am truly dissapointed at CCP (borderline outrageous). I mean they are telling us for so long that they are preparing a new graphics engine. I think it is 2 years of work as I recall (maybe i'm wrong i cant find the post right now). A new graphics engine = a new client. From scratch. ALL the ships would have to be remodeled. FROM SCRATCH. I don't know about CCP, but if I were them and saw that almost a third of my clients are using linux (and another chunk almost certainly MacOS), the introduction of a new client would be the right moment to rewrite the entire codebase for portability, or even better platform independence (however possible that may be). I mean, a new graphics engine must be THE right time to maybe take a minute and think about the rest of us. I would have no problem to wait a little longer should there be a native version for macOS or Linux. However I find it enfuriating that all they did all this time was incorporate the Cider / Cedega engine into a windows client... Really, I've seen threads with rumors that go almost a year back on the subject. All this time all they could think of was this? Not one developer had the idea of platform independence? I installed wine and played eve on it in a matter of 15 minutes (without d/l times of course) and I am a new linux user. How hard could it be? As far as i know, the scripting language used is python. Both Mac and Linux hav native support so no changes there. The only problem is the use of DirectX. OpenGL anyone? I am sorry, but this whole Cedega / Cider deal is IMO a way to fool us non Windows users into thinking that they actually give a s**t, and keep us as clients for as long as they can. Stop thanking them. Open your eyes.
Bogu D	Posted - 2007.11.04 17:00:00 - [109] Just gave the OS X client a spin on my Mac Pro. Seems to work smoothly. Didn't check the fps though. Only problem that I encountered so far is that Eve doesn't recognize my azerty keyboard. In fact I suspect that it doesn't check the system input settings. Very annoying when you're typing your password to login. And thx CCP for making these clients available.

CCP Explorer	Posted - 2007.11.04 17:07:00 - [110] Originally by: Bogu D Only problem that I encountered so far is that Eve doesn't recognize my azerty keyboard. In fact I suspect that it doesn't check the system input settings. Very annoying when you're typing your password to login. Should have been fixed... bug report, please. Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson Software Director EVE Online, CCP Games


Ravow Minmatar Ravow Empire	Posted - 2007.11.04 17:21:00 - [111] I don't have any probleme with EVE+WINE and my Dvoorak keyboard. But the speed IS an issue (you need a Single Core 5Ghz CPU to emulate DX9 at a descent speed). So if your using Linux/Mac, Forget PVP and 0.0 space.
Vaelys Sael Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades	Posted - 2007.11.04 17:35:00 - [112] Thank you so much CCP! kaboom
Cabrakan Naum	Posted - 2007.11.04 17:50:00 - [113] are there already benchmarks anywhere that compare the (official) linux client with the (unofficial)wine client. eve runs perfectly with the current wine release, so performance would be the only reason to switch. lets hope that ccp does not interfere deliberately with wine compatibility to please cedega.
Valmoria	Posted - 2007.11.04 17:53:00 - [114] Originally by: Drudenhaus Please remove lines 44-47 from .updater/cedegaUpdateChecker and lines 93-96 from /usr/bin/eve or at least give us the option to run as root in the future. Running anything as root, specially a desktop, is a very very exceptionally bad idea. How about you learn to configure your system properly instead of asking CCP to make their client open the doorway for some serious abuse?
Infestate	Posted - 2007.11.04 17:55:00 - [115] I can't seem to log in since my account was in an on-hold state at the start of october :( any chance of getting this fixed so I can have a looksee or will I just have to wait until it goes live on the main server?
Drudenhaus Caldari Initrode The Core Collective	Posted - 2007.11.04 18:01:00 - [116] Originally by: Valmoria Originally by: Drudenhaus Please remove lines 44-47 from .updater/cedegaUpdateChecker and lines 93-96 from /usr/bin/eve or at least give us the option to run as root in the future. Running anything as root, specially a desktop, is a very very exceptionally bad idea. How about you learn to configure your system properly instead of asking CCP to make their client open the doorway for some serious abuse? That's really only true for inexperienced users. Theres nothing wrong with my system configuration.
Valmoria	Posted - 2007.11.04 18:03:00 - [117] Actually it's a bad idea EVERYWHERE. Imagine if a flaw is discovered in EVE that allows arbitrary execution of code remotely? Say bye-bye to your nicely configured system if you're ever the victim of it. Browsing the web, using irc, all these things are dangerous as root regardless of how experienced you are. This is common knowledge. Originally by: Drudenhaus Originally by: Valmoria Originally by: Drudenhaus Please remove lines 44-47 from .updater/cedegaUpdateChecker and lines 93-96 from /usr/bin/eve or at least give us the option to run as root in the future. Running anything as root, specially a desktop, is a very very exceptionally bad idea. How about you learn to configure your system properly instead of asking CCP to make their client open the doorway for some serious abuse? That's really only true for inexperienced users. Theres nothing wrong with my system configuration.
Alit Neroon	Posted - 2007.11.04 18:07:00 - [118] Originally by: Muscaat I get the same: I also have the error Quote: ~/.cedega/.updater/gddb.py:26: RuntimeWarning: Python C API version mismatch for module gddb_parser: This Python has API version 1013, module gddb_parser has version 1012. when I try and load it. No other useful debug output. I got that same POS-error, it doesn`t make much sense, now does it?
Drudenhaus Caldari Initrode The Core Collective	Posted - 2007.11.04 18:10:00 - [119] Originally by: Valmoria Actually it's a bad idea EVERYWHERE. Imagine if a flaw is discovered in EVE that allows arbitrary execution of code remotely? Say bye-bye to your nicely configured system if you're ever the victim of it. Browsing the web, using irc, all these things are dangerous as root regardless of how experienced you are. This is common knowledge. Originally by: Drudenhaus Originally by: Valmoria Originally by: Drudenhaus Please remove lines 44-47 from .updater/cedegaUpdateChecker and lines 93-96 from /usr/bin/eve or at least give us the option to run as root in the future. Running anything as root, specially a desktop, is a very very exceptionally bad idea. How about you learn to configure your system properly instead of asking CCP to make their client open the doorway for some serious abuse? That's really only true for inexperienced users. Theres nothing wrong with my system configuration. And in 10 minutes I would have my system restored via network imaging. Don't imply that I do not know what I am doing. I have no desire to attach 'sudo' to every command I type or waste time configuring a regular user to do my normal activities (the only exception there is SSH of course).
Valmoria	Posted - 2007.11.04 18:19:00 - [120] And don't assume every other user out there is as up-to-speed with their systems as you are. Enabling running as root is a bad idea, regardless of how expert YOU are. Originally by: Drudenhaus Originally by: Valmoria Actually it's a bad idea EVERYWHERE. Imagine if a flaw is discovered in EVE that allows arbitrary execution of code remotely? Say bye-bye to your nicely configured system if you're ever the victim of it. Browsing the web, using irc, all these things are dangerous as root regardless of how experienced you are. This is common knowledge. Originally by: Drudenhaus Originally by: Valmoria Originally by: Drudenhaus Please remove lines 44-47 from .updater/cedegaUpdateChecker and lines 93-96 from /usr/bin/eve or at least give us the option to run as root in the future. Running anything as root, specially a desktop, is a very very exceptionally bad idea. How about you learn to configure your system properly instead of asking CCP to make their client open the doorway for some serious abuse? That's really only true for inexperienced users. Theres nothing wrong with my system configuration. And in 10 minutes I would have my system restored via network imaging. Don't imply that I do not know what I am doing. I have no desire to attach 'sudo' to every command I type or waste time configuring a regular user to do my normal activities (the only exception there is SSH of course).

Valmoria	Posted - 2007.11.04 18:20:00 - [121] I'm not implying you don't know what you are doing. You've done that yourself. If you knew what you were doing you would already have a regular user account for doing general tasks and would understand the implications of allowing execution as root. Originally by: Drudenhaus Originally by: Valmoria Actually it's a bad idea EVERYWHERE. Imagine if a flaw is discovered in EVE that allows arbitrary execution of code remotely? Say bye-bye to your nicely configured system if you're ever the victim of it. Browsing the web, using irc, all these things are dangerous as root regardless of how experienced you are. This is common knowledge. Originally by: Drudenhaus Originally by: Valmoria Originally by: Drudenhaus Please remove lines 44-47 from .updater/cedegaUpdateChecker and lines 93-96 from /usr/bin/eve or at least give us the option to run as root in the future. Running anything as root, specially a desktop, is a very very exceptionally bad idea. How about you learn to configure your system properly instead of asking CCP to make their client open the doorway for some serious abuse? That's really only true for inexperienced users. Theres nothing wrong with my system configuration. And in 10 minutes I would have my system restored via network imaging. Don't imply that I do not know what I am doing. I have no desire to attach 'sudo' to every command I type or waste time configuring a regular user to do my normal activities (the only exception there is SSH of course).
Drudenhaus Caldari Initrode The Core Collective	Posted - 2007.11.04 18:22:00 - [122] Originally by: Valmoria And don't assume every other user out there is as up-to-speed with their systems as you are. Enabling running as root is a bad idea, regardless of how expert YOU are. Originally by: Drudenhaus Originally by: Valmoria Actually it's a bad idea EVERYWHERE. Imagine if a flaw is discovered in EVE that allows arbitrary execution of code remotely? Say bye-bye to your nicely configured system if you're ever the victim of it. Browsing the web, using irc, all these things are dangerous as root regardless of how experienced you are. This is common knowledge. Originally by: Drudenhaus Originally by: Valmoria Originally by: Drudenhaus Please remove lines 44-47 from .updater/cedegaUpdateChecker and lines 93-96 from /usr/bin/eve or at least give us the option to run as root in the future. Running anything as root, specially a desktop, is a very very exceptionally bad idea. How about you learn to configure your system properly instead of asking CCP to make their client open the doorway for some serious abuse? That's really only true for inexperienced users. Theres nothing wrong with my system configuration. And in 10 minutes I would have my system restored via network imaging. Don't imply that I do not know what I am doing. I have no desire to attach 'sudo' to every command I type or waste time configuring a regular user to do my normal activities (the only exception there is SSH of course). That's entirely subjective... Do you tell people to not run as an administrator in Windows as well?
Valmoria	Posted - 2007.11.04 18:22:00 - [123] anyway, I think you and I are getting a tad off-topic here...
Valmoria	Posted - 2007.11.04 18:23:00 - [124] Edited by: Valmoria on 04/11/2007 18:23:41 No. I tell them not to run windows, period. :) And fyi there is nothing subjective about it at all. it is simply KNOWN FACT that if you run GENERAL DAY-TO-DAY tasks as root, you are a fool and will get pwned before too long. I didn't write the rules, I just understand them. Originally by: Drudenhaus Originally by: Valmoria And don't assume every other user out there is as up-to-speed with their systems as you are. Enabling running as root is a bad idea, regardless of how expert YOU are. Originally by: Drudenhaus Originally by: Valmoria Actually it's a bad idea EVERYWHERE. Imagine if a flaw is discovered in EVE that allows arbitrary execution of code remotely? Say bye-bye to your nicely configured system if you're ever the victim of it. Browsing the web, using irc, all these things are dangerous as root regardless of how experienced you are. This is common knowledge. Originally by: Drudenhaus Originally by: Valmoria Originally by: Drudenhaus Please remove lines 44-47 from .updater/cedegaUpdateChecker and lines 93-96 from /usr/bin/eve or at least give us the option to run as root in the future. Running anything as root, specially a desktop, is a very very exceptionally bad idea. How about you learn to configure your system properly instead of asking CCP to make their client open the doorway for some serious abuse? That's really only true for inexperienced users. Theres nothing wrong with my system configuration. And in 10 minutes I would have my system restored via network imaging. Don't imply that I do not know what I am doing. I have no desire to attach 'sudo' to every command I type or waste time configuring a regular user to do my normal activities (the only exception there is SSH of course). That's entirely subjective... Do you tell people to not run as an administrator in Windows as well?
Kravek Rave Technologies Inc. C0VEN	Posted - 2007.11.04 18:27:00 - [125] Edited by: Kravek on 04/11/2007 18:30:41 Anybody have any fix to that black window appearing after splash screen? Anybody with ATI even tried to use that client? <offtopic> Firstly: Valmoria you know how EDIT posts? Secondly: Both of you dont quote entire discussion. </offtopic>
Drudenhaus Caldari Initrode The Core Collective	Posted - 2007.11.04 18:33:00 - [126] Originally by: Kravek Edited by: Kravek on 04/11/2007 18:30:41 Anybody have any fix to that black window appearing after splash screen? Anybody with ATI even tried to use that client? <offtopic> Firstly: Valmoria you know how EDIT posts? Secondly: Both of you dont quote entire discussion. </offtopic> I had fixed it by copying the prefs.ini from my regular cedega/eve install over this new clients prefs.ini and resetting the eula agreement line to =0.
Valmoria	Posted - 2007.11.04 18:35:00 - [127] I do now. And apologies for the excessive quoting. And apologies to Drudenhaus if they were offended by my comments. But I do still think it's a bad idea to open a can of worms that has potential to make 100,000 people's lives hell just to satisfy the preference of 1 person... Anyway I've given my opinion I'll disappear back into the dark now.
Kravek Rave Technologies Inc. C0VEN	Posted - 2007.11.04 18:37:00 - [128] Originally by: Drudenhaus I had fixed it by copying the prefs.ini from my regular cedega/eve install over this new clients prefs.ini and resetting the eula agreement line to =0. I tried that already... not working for me. Strangest thing is that black window dont appear always... most of time but i run eve about 2 times successful.. and about 50 times not successful
Carsidava Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.04 19:15:00 - [129] Originally by: Valmoria But I do still think it's a bad idea to open a can of worms that has potential to make 100,000 people's lives hell just to satisfy the preference of 1 person... You're not the only one. --
prsr Gallente JuBa Corp RONA Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.04 19:45:00 - [130] I got a nice black window as well after installing and running eve. Copied the prefs.ini from my windows install, that gave me a login screen. I flew around a bit, found it to be more responsive then running under windows. The only problem left for me is that the eve window is keeping my mouse and keyboard hostage... Is there some kind of key combo that i'm missing here? -- .sig apathy ftw

Liths Veloc	Posted - 2007.11.04 19:53:00 - [131] This is pretty cool! But, I have a dual-head Mac Pro, and my "primary" display is in portrait mode, 1200x1600. EVE chooses that as its display, and I get a 1024x768 window right in the middle of it... Kind of sucks. Is there any way to configure EVE to use the "secondary" display instead?
Vint Rotach	Posted - 2007.11.04 20:01:00 - [132] I run eve on intel iMac with second display. Eve itself seems fine. Only complaint I've got is the that it only runs in full screen, and blanks the second monitor. Any way to have it run in window'd mode, or leave the second monitor alone when eve is fullscreen on the primary? Vint
Whixy	Posted - 2007.11.04 20:14:00 - [133] I tried the multi-user install. First it wouldn't start up because of permissions on /installdir/.cedegarc and /installdir/.global.delta. I changed those a bit (well, by accident actually). Now I get the splash screen appearing and after that nothing. No debug output to console or anything like that. Some notes: - if you run the installer as root and forgot to set up DISPLAY and such, the script just propagates the Exception instead of catching it. I think this is a common enough problem to catch and do something about - Some more links to information about what is happening would be useful. Is there a page somewhere that describes where (non-eve) crash logs and such go?
InsaneMachine	Posted - 2007.11.04 20:56:00 - [134] Edited by: InsaneMachine on 04/11/2007 20:57:32 I have a problem getting eve to run as well. After the splash screen I just get a black screen. Forgot to mention that I tried to copy the windows config file over, no effect. Any ideas what could be the problem? System info: 64bit Kubuntu 7.10 with compiz-fusion Opteron 152 @ 2.6GHz 7800GT 2GB RAM
Ephiel Gallente Aurora Acclivitous	Posted - 2007.11.04 20:59:00 - [135] Well i just tested the Mac os client on my 24" iMac with Leopard and it works pretty good out side of space. But if i am docked i have the issue that all things i do with mouse like moving windows or cycling the camera tage about 1 sec before it strts. its not laggy or like a 5fps scream where everything stucks - its just reacts way to late. If i reduced resolution from 1920x1200 down to 1280x???? it runs smooth again. same if i deactivate Load Inviroment option. So it seem to be some graphic issue. I Have the Nvidia 7600gt 256MB card and 1GB ram (witch could be a porformence breaker true, but its not the performence its more like the reaction in inputs are coming much to late)
Svengali MASS Ministry Of Amarrian Secret Service	Posted - 2007.11.04 21:40:00 - [136] To put eve into windowed mode do Apple-Enter when you're in game. I also had the mouse that was way behind, but only in stations. In space it was fine. Ill be sure to bug that.
J'Mkarr Soban Amarr Shadows of the Dead Aftermath Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.04 21:43:00 - [137] I'm glad to see the usual beta testing at CCP hasn't changed - instead of focusing help when specifically asked for by a member of the private beta test, they simply open it up to everyone. The first documentation on installation I found in this thread, and even then it's not that helpful. Further, there is no mention that if you do manage to hack it together, it ****s with your existing Cedega install, or at least it did with a previous version. So I can safely say I'm not expecting anything than sub-par lip-service support for OS X and Linux, and I'm not even that keen on trying again to be honest, given that Wine works just as well if not better than Cedega. Come on CCP, I've been with you since beta, will you never learn? ----------------------------- "Oh, we're sorry, you had the 'NakedAmarrChicks' bit flagged in your account somehow." "Wait, why was there even a flag for that to begin with?" "..."
Adel Sorra Gallente Recruitment and Industrial Center	Posted - 2007.11.04 21:52:00 - [138] my 2 cents: i had the 'only black box and nothing happens'-problem after patching the client, using the prefs.ini file from my existing cedega-install fixed this. the client runs well, stuff like resolution changes in space works know, so well done. fps seems to be the same (30-40), exept when jumping its less than on cedega currently (50 where i get >60 in cedega). but it displays right (wich somtimes it doesn't in cedega). but.. i still hope trasgaming or wine will support future versions of eve.. i have 3 monitors running with xinerama, only being able to play on one in fullscreen makes the official linux client kind of usless to me..
jonfr	Posted - 2007.11.04 22:08:00 - [139] I can run EVE Online good on Gentoo Linux. I only had to do a manual install, since there is no ebuild. EVE Online runs nicely on it, but higher screen resolution makes the game lag a little. I only had one hard crash with the game, but changing the graphic (screen size, color details etc.) details in spaces coses a lockup so bad that the keyboard has locks up and the computer has to be rebooted with the reset button. ---- Sign has been stolen by ugly dwarf from a unknown solar system.
Krest Zoltral Gallente Astromechanica Maxima	Posted - 2007.11.04 22:11:00 - [140] Don't work for me, After the "splash screen" nothing and nothing see the log: Quote: RuntimeWarning: Python C API version mismatch for module gddb_parser: This Python has API version 1013, module gddb_parser has version 1012

jonfr	Posted - 2007.11.04 22:16:00 - [141] Originally by: Krest Zoltral Don't work for me, After the "splash screen" nothing and nothing see the log: Quote: RuntimeWarning: Python C API version mismatch for module gddb_parser: This Python has API version 1013, module gddb_parser has version 1012 You problay have a old version of python installed. I have this python version in Gentoo Linux and I don't see this error. python 2.4.4-r6 ---- Sign has been stolen by ugly dwarf from a unknown solar system.
InsaneMachine	Posted - 2007.11.04 22:32:00 - [142] @ Krest Zoltra Where do you see that log?
Triath Lon Caldari Keepers of Balance Legion of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2007.11.04 22:47:00 - [143] I must be downloading it at the most unfortunate time, but download speed was initially at about 65 kb/sec and now dropped to 35 kb/sec... i'll be here for the next 6 hrs waiting for it.
Muscaat Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2007.11.04 22:48:00 - [144] Originally by: jonfr Quote: RuntimeWarning: Python C API version mismatch for module gddb_parser: This Python has API version 1013, module gddb_parser has version 1012 You problay have a old version of python installed. I have this python version in Gentoo Linux and I don't see this error. python 2.4.4-r6 I get this error with the default Python installed in Ubuntu 7.04 (2.5.1-0ubuntu3), which CCP claims is supported by this client.
WeeLB	Posted - 2007.11.04 22:54:00 - [145] Hi all, For you Mac users, did you just drag and drop the file into your Apps folder? Do you need Cider, or is it bundled? (it appears to be inside the package) The application won't launch for me, so I'm just hoping there's something obvious I'm missing before going out and downloading the client at 30 kps again... Cheers, and thanks in advance.
morefeeus	Posted - 2007.11.04 23:24:00 - [146] Nice one... Client works fine (opensuse 10). After loading a python package the install mentions and sorting out secondary group permissions for my non-root user, added it to video and cedega, it didn't require any more tweaking. Only glitch I noticed in the hour spent on-line was that the map window displays a white box about 5mm square at the 'you are here' point. Will it be possible to have it windowed so I can run more than one client, the option didn't drop down... And no I still need windows (as much as I'd like to give it the finger!)... So I can relax from Eve, I need Crysis, COD4 and UT3! There's just too much happening on Windows to dump it.
Doublewhopper	Posted - 2007.11.05 00:00:00 - [147] The installer downloads the client.dat to my home-directory regardless what paths i give. How can this be changed? I dont have space there. Can i manually get the client.dat file somewhere else?
Glengrant Minmatar TOHA Heavy Industries Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2007.11.05 00:05:00 - [148] Edited by: Glengrant on 05/11/2007 00:05:54 Guys - get over the supposed native vs windows/wine thing. Wine (Cedega, crossover - same deal) is just an api layer where windows os function calls get translated into their linux equivalents. An app like eve has (to simplify) 2 kinds of code: Your own code which is just what you write and compile - and that's the same binary code regardless of os you are running on - and calls to os api. The latter is just a large set of functions with parameters in certain shared libraries (call DLL on windows and so on linux). What wine does is not re-implement all of windows - just offer the same api - and then translate it to equivelant calls on linux. The part of Eve that's written in python is mostly protable to begin with. So - except for a more or less thin portability layer an Eve using wine/Cedega/Crossover is a native app. And any app written for several OS would use a portability layer so you can basicaly write your code once and then just recompile for different target platforms. It just so happens that in this case the portable api looks like windows api. shrug - Perhaps not the most elegant looking api - but not necessarily slower because of that and anyway a problem (if any) for the programmers - not users. I have been using wine since early this year (switched from Windows to Ubuntu November 06 - booting into windows just for Eve - until the last serious bugs got eradicated early 07). I'm glad it's officialy supported now which should lessen/remove the occasional problem with patch days (when wine sometimes needs a few days to catch up with breaking changes). I also hope that eve voice will be available this way (the only thing I am missing while using wine). I couldn't care less how they made it portable. I stopped booting into my windows partition > 6 months ago. (ok - that's cheating a bit- I have 2nd computer with old windows that I use just for Ventrilo/TS - looking forward to get rid of that too). For me 2007 has been the long awaited year of the Linux Desktop breakthrough.
jonfr	Posted - 2007.11.05 00:48:00 - [149] Originally by: Muscaat I get this error with the default Python installed in Ubuntu 7.04 (2.5.1-0ubuntu3), which CCP claims is supported by this client. EDIT: Installing Python 2.4, and editing the ~/.cedega/.ui/runGUI script to force it to use that version, gets rid of this error but doesn't make the login screen appear. Here are my run info, if they are of any help. I can run eve online without issues with my Gentoo Linux. Even if it isn't officially supported. jonfr@jupiter ~ $ eve Single-user install... This is the update checker... Running /home/jonfr/.cedega/.updater/cedega_updater.py Running... /home/jonfr/.cedega/.ui/runGUI jonfr@jupiter ~ $ sh: lsb_release: command not found sh: lsb_release: command not found sh: lsb_release: command not found ---- Sign has been stolen by ugly dwarf from a unknown solar system.
Pivalak Happy hOur Mining and industry	Posted - 2007.11.05 01:03:00 - [150] Originally by: Kravek Anybody with ATI even tried to use that client? I did. Tried the Linux client with Kubuntu 7.10 and fglrx driver 8.42.3, on a computer with an ATI HD 2600 XT graphic card. The game booted all right, but there are several issues which, together, make the game unplayable. However, you can still use it to change the skill being trained or chat with your buddies: - As long as I remain docked at a station, the client seems to work. But as soon as I try to undock, the client crashes. - The game runs at a lower resolution than expected. If I try to set the proper resolution for my screen, the client crashes. - If you already have Cedega in your system, installing the EVE client will mess with the rest of your Windows applications (installed under Cedega). In particular, the engine distributed with the EVE client seems to replace that used by Cedega (though I haven't examined the issue in depth).

GreyerLander	Posted - 2007.11.05 01:11:00 - [151] Originally by: Glengrant Edited by: Glengrant on 05/11/2007 00:06:58 Edited by: Glengrant on 05/11/2007 00:06:22 Edited by: Glengrant on 05/11/2007 00:05:54 Guys - get over the supposed native vs windows/wine thing. Wine (Cedega, crossover - same deal) is just an api layer where windows os function calls get translated into their linux equivalents. An app like eve has (to simplify) 2 kinds of code: Your own code which is just what you write and compile - and that's the same binary code regardless of os you are running on - and calls to os api. The latter is just a large set of functions with parameters in certain shared libraries (called ".DLL" on windows and ".so" on linux). What wine does is not re-implement all of windows - just offer the same api - and then translate it to equivelant calls on linux. The part of Eve that's written in python is mostly protable to begin with. So - except for a more or less thin portability layer an Eve using wine/Cedega/Crossover is a native app. And any app written for several OS would use a portability layer so you can basicaly write your code once and then just recompile for different target platforms. It just so happens that in this case the portable api looks like windows api. shrug - Perhaps not the most elegant looking api - but not necessarily slower because of that and anyway a problem (if any) for the programmers - not users. I have been using wine since early this year (switched from Windows to Ubuntu November 06 - booting into windows just for Eve - until the last serious bugs got eradicated early 07). I'm glad it's officialy supported now which should lessen/remove the occasional problem with patch days (when wine sometimes needs a few days to catch up with breaking changes). I also hope that eve voice will be available this way (the only thing I am missing while using wine). I couldn't care less how they made it portable. I stopped booting into my windows partition > 6 months ago. (ok - that's cheating a bit- I have 2nd computer with old windows that I use just for Ventrilo/TS - looking forward to get rid of that too). For me 2007 has been the long awaited year of the Linux Desktop breakthrough. You managed to have working music and sound effects in Eve under wine? If yes, please tell me how you done that :-/
Glengrant Minmatar TOHA Heavy Industries Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2007.11.05 01:34:00 - [152] Edited by: Glengrant on 05/11/2007 01:34:55 I did have sound working with wine - until a while ago. Dunno of it is a problem with recent wine/eve patches - or recent changes with audio support in Ubuntu (pulseaudio?). I didn't do anything special - it just worked - until it don't anymore a couple months or so ago. I just played a bit with the official client. Better fps out-of-the-box than I had with wine (was ok with wine - good with the new client). I had the same black window after splash as others had - disabling audio support (audio=0, voiceanabled=0) in prefs.ini took care of that. Though means still no sound for me. But that's likely a problem with my also config on my hardware. Only real problem I couldn't solve so far (only kicked at it for a few minutes though) is that the mouse cursor is captured within eve window - can't get outside (I set resolution to 1680x1050 while my screen has 1920x1200). Can't alt-tab either. Switched from fullscreen to windowed because fullscreen gave me horribly low resolutrion (probably 1024x768) and also couldn'z alt-tab to other apps- like firefox for example - unacceptable :-).
WeeLB	Posted - 2007.11.05 01:37:00 - [153] OK, I have an addendum to my previous post. It appears that I can indeed run Eve, but only directly from the .dmg file! In other words, when I just launch the file from the mounted image it works fine, but when I copy the program to my HDD it suddenly becomes a program that is unrecognizable by the OS (Leopard). For the life of me I can't figure out what would cause this to happen! Any thoughts?
Sevarus James Minmatar Meridian Dynamics FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.05 01:45:00 - [154] I was on the closed beta test. This new testing client does the same thing that gimped me on the closed test. On my main box, I'm a cedega+EVE user. If I install the beta, it over writes the existing cedega installation (no choices to move it) and completely borks both the testing and the main client. As a CEO of an active corporation in game, I don't have the time to "back n' forth" this box for testing. (main machine x2 3800 dual core/ nvidia 7950GT 512 meg ram /2 gig corsair ram / 300 gig sata / onboard sound / ubuntu 7.04 On the secondary testing machine it installs fine, but logo freezes and then ctd's with no apparent errors other than the python issue which isn't really the 'crash'. The 2nd box is an older cpu/gfx, but IS using an external USB sound solution (creative sb live external), and THIS is what causes the problems as the config tests fail on sound no matter which solution (alsa or oss) is selected. Copying prefs.ini from a working installation and zero'ing out the audio does not resolve the problem. The sblive DOES work with other applications with no issue. The temporary testing on the primary machine yielded lower fps results than current cedega 6.03 engine + EVE tranquility client, and also lower FPS results than an existing wine .9.48 + EVE tranquility client. This may be due to overhead, or less than optimal defaults to the gddb settings for the EVE client, but this isn't ready for prime time imho. Ubuntu 3d Beryl-Linux Desktop+EVE
Triath Lon Caldari Keepers of Balance Legion of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2007.11.05 01:46:00 - [155] Originally by: WeeLB OK, I have an addendum to my previous post. It appears that I can indeed run Eve, but only directly from the .dmg file! In other words, when I just launch the file from the mounted image it works fine, but when I copy the program to my HDD it suddenly becomes a program that is unrecognizable by the OS (Leopard). For the life of me I can't figure out what would cause this to happen! Any thoughts? Say, are you moving it to your Applications folder?
Triath Lon Caldari Keepers of Balance Legion of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2007.11.05 01:47:00 - [156] I am THE ONLY person in Jita right now! :) Oh, and client works flawlessly on my Mac Pro.
C Identity	Posted - 2007.11.05 01:57:00 - [157] Somehow I only get TQ in the server list as login option pull down. Running it on an iMac 20" with Leopard 10.5 - C
Triath Lon Caldari Keepers of Balance Legion of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2007.11.05 02:14:00 - [158] Originally by: C Identity Somehow I only get TQ in the server list as login option pull down. Running it on an iMac 20" with Leopard 10.5 - C Multiplicity IS NOT on a pulldown menu. Just type in the ip address.
Daan Sai HAZCON Inc Knights Of Syndicate	Posted - 2007.11.05 02:15:00 - [159] Running OK on my MacBook Pro 2.4GHz Core duo/4GB RAM, System 10.4.10/ Nvidia 8600 mobile 256MB grphics card. * Frame rate is down, 40-50fps compared to 60-70fps under XP when using bootcamp to run. * Keyboard/trackpad differences - I need to command-click instead of a two finger track pad click to get the screen contextual menus to run * Missing window mode - which I like to use. * Odd graphic glitch, (tried to screen capture but couldn't) A rectangle near the ship status wheel became lighter than the general background,and persisted while autopiloting around. The rectangle is a bit wider than the status wheel, with encompassing the upper half of the wheel and some of the background. The background in the rectangle is lighter, but the wheel is unaffected. * When some rats at a gate tried to kill me there were a number of frame rate stutters, which smoothed out later - everytime some new object is added to the scene there is a distinct frame rate pause. I assume the support libraries need optimizing further. When just in a jump transition, the frame rate hit 120fps monetarily, so I think the engine is capable of raw pixel pushing - but the 3D object list construction would appear to be slow. Otherwise runs pretty well. I'd say very useable for all but complex combat. Ideal for mining/empire and possibly PvE activities. Not at absolute max performance for fleet/gang PvP perhaps, but that will come with time I expect. Well done. I will try some missions tonight and see how they go. Network on OSX is infinitely more stable than under XP. Thanks
riprjill	Posted - 2007.11.05 02:17:00 - [160] Originally by: alpheon My ignorant question for the day: How do I set it to connect to Multiplicity? Thanks. Damn, altpost... CBF swapping, sorry... Multiplicity MIGHT run under cedega (good luck!) or you could switch to synergy (which runs on pretty much everything)... unfortunately it doesnt correctly maintain mouse states on system swap, so full screen eve will minimise to taskbar every time you swap. Now when is my native PDP-11 client coming out?? :)

caldarideteis2000	Posted - 2007.11.05 02:18:00 - [161] Originally by: jonfr Originally by: Muscaat I get this error with the default Python installed in Ubuntu 7.04 (2.5.1-0ubuntu3), which CCP claims is supported by this client. EDIT: Installing Python 2.4, and editing the ~/.cedega/.ui/runGUI script to force it to use that version, gets rid of this error but doesn't make the login screen appear. Here are my run info, if they are of any help. I can run eve online without issues with my Gentoo Linux. Even if it isn't officially supported. jonfr@jupiter ~ $ eve Single-user install... This is the update checker... Running /home/jonfr/.cedega/.updater/cedega_updater.py Running... /home/jonfr/.cedega/.ui/runGUI jonfr@jupiter ~ $ sh: lsb_release: command not found sh: lsb_release: command not found sh: lsb_release: command not found Install lsb-release. I have it installed and am getting some error messages from it, though this is in debian testing.. Quote: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/lsb_release", line 305, in ? main() File "/usr/bin/lsb_release", line 269, in main distinfo = get_distro_information() File "/usr/bin/lsb_release", line 232, in get_distro_information distinfo = guess_debian_release() File "/usr/bin/lsb_release", line 186, in guess_debian_release rinfo = guess_release_from_apt() File "/usr/bin/lsb_release", line 131, in guess_release_from_apt releases = parse_apt_policy() File "/usr/bin/lsb_release", line 116, in parse_apt_policy policy = commands.getoutput('apt-cache policy 2>/dev/null') File "/usr/lib/python2.4/commands.py", line 44, in getoutput return getstatusoutput(cmd)[1] File "/usr/lib/python2.4/commands.py", line 55, in getstatusoutput sts = pipe.close() IOError: [Errno 10] No child processes
riprjill	Posted - 2007.11.05 02:23:00 - [162] Originally by: Drudenhaus Please remove lines 44-47 from .updater/cedegaUpdateChecker and lines 93-96 from /usr/bin/eve or at least give us the option to run as root in the future. Altposting again, sorry. Run as root?? This is the linux client, not the windows client... you dont run ANYTHING as root unless its absolutely nescessary, and if you feel its ABSOLUTELY nescessary, then "sudo /usr/bin/eve" and live with any deleterious results from your foolishness.
Gwruu	Posted - 2007.11.05 02:51:00 - [163] Has anyone tried with other distros? I'm using fedora and pretty new to it
WeeLB	Posted - 2007.11.05 02:52:00 - [164] Hey Triath Lon, I did indeed copy the file to the Applications folder, though I don't really think that should matter. It goes from being a perfectly workable file in the .dmg image to being a file that allegedly isn't supported by my architecture (MacBook running Leopard). For some stupid reason the copying process is breaking the file, and I'll be damned if I can figure out why! I just repaired permissions (including the Remote Desktop SUID error that has plagued Leopard) and it's still not working, not that I expected that to fix the problem. Cheers
Triath Lon Caldari Keepers of Balance Legion of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2007.11.05 03:08:00 - [165] Originally by: WeeLB Hey Triath Lon, I did indeed copy the file to the Applications folder, though I don't really think that should matter. It goes from being a perfectly workable file in the .dmg image to being a file that allegedly isn't supported by my architecture (MacBook running Leopard). For some stupid reason the copying process is breaking the file, and I'll be damned if I can figure out why! I just repaired permissions (including the Remote Desktop SUID error that has plagued Leopard) and it's still not working, not that I expected that to fix the problem. Cheers Well, i don't get to install Leopard till tomorrow - i don't want to install it on my Mac Pro, and i left my MacBook at work... so i can't replicate your problem. That, however, is very strange. I have no idea how coping could brake your game...
Daan Sai HAZCON Inc Knights Of Syndicate	Posted - 2007.11.05 03:49:00 - [166] Originally by: Daan Sai * Odd graphic glitch, (tried to screen capture but couldn't) A rectangle near the ship status wheel became lighter than the general background,and persisted while autopiloting around. The rectangle is a bit wider than the status wheel, with encompassing the upper half of the wheel and some of the background. The background in the rectangle is lighter, but the wheel is unaffected. In the end I took a photo of the graphic glitch: http://miocene.anu.edu.au/~ralph/eve/PB050074.jpg The lightened are might be a text area for status text? Maybe it just doens't show on higher contrast PC default gammas (2.2 vs 1.8 gamma default MacOS). Hope you can see it in a PC browser!
Daan Sai HAZCON Inc Knights Of Syndicate	Posted - 2007.11.05 03:55:00 - [167] Also, can people on Multiplicity with the new clients gather at FD-MLJ so we can try some multi-player interactions, there are so few on at a time we need to concentrate a bit. Rifters at Dawn!
InsaneMachine	Posted - 2007.11.05 04:41:00 - [168] Yeah I can kinda see it, would have been better to outline like half of it or something.
XICD7	Posted - 2007.11.05 05:08:00 - [169] hi ..i wonder if eve would be able to be play on PS3 now that will hav linux support, i would have kubuntu running on the PS3. lets see if eve can be play there... any info let me know :)
Cieries Southern Cross Incorporated	Posted - 2007.11.05 05:16:00 - [170] Slackware 12 here: It abruptly dies after displaying the splash screen for several seconds. No errors returned and the history.txt records a 'STARTUP [3]'. I've even tried editing the prefs.ini, as some have suggested, to no avail. Is there a way I could run the logserver to check for errors?

Ikkajo Minmatar Illudium Space Products Blue Sun Trust	Posted - 2007.11.05 05:30:00 - [171] Runs beautifully on my Macbook Pro. Only question I have is: How do I use the function keys? They're not activating the high/mid/low slots - they're just working like they would on the normal keyboard. -- Industrialist Carebear, CEO Illudium Space Products: Where's the KABOOM!? LP offers by corp at the LP Store DB
Daan Sai HAZCON Inc Knights Of Syndicate	Posted - 2007.11.05 05:37:00 - [172] Edited by: Daan Sai on 05/11/2007 05:41:33 Originally by: Ikkajo Runs beautifully on my Macbook Pro. Only question I have is: How do I use the function keys? They're not activating the high/mid/low slots - they're just working like they would on the normal keyboard. Try holding down the 'fn' key at the same time.
Sakura Rayard	Posted - 2007.11.05 06:22:00 - [173] I played around with this earlier on my Macbook that I got last year, and from what I can tell it works fine. I even installed leopard on it yesterday. My only complaint is that zooming in and out is a bit unresponsive, but It might just be my touchpad... Er, the point is I'm looking forward to the official release.
Real Poison Minmatar Mutually Assured Destruction Dark Matter Coalition	Posted - 2007.11.05 08:00:00 - [174] yay, finally the download finished over night. install went mac typically smooth on my MBP (nvidia 8600M GT 256mb). game started up fine. everything looks good on the first look. fps was at around 22-30 fps in a 1024x768 window. have to see how the fps will be in a crowded system. for the mac users that wonder about the window mode, just press command+enter. just one glitch i've encountered, after i was afk for a few minutes while being docked the game was frozen, music was still playing but UI wasn't responding anymore.
BIZZAROSTORMY	Posted - 2007.11.05 09:31:00 - [175] Intalled on OSX Tiger Macpro with 1900xt ATI card and 2 gigs of ram. Works perfectly. Had to dupilcate the package in order to run 2 instances. Is there anyway to do this whithout having a 1 Gig Eve file for each instance? On windows I forced antialiasing with my ati driver but OSX has no comparable option - anyone know a way to force antialiasing in osx? BTW this is the greatest thing since I first installed eve! Yay for OSX version. Now I can run ichat, flip between instances with xpose and start making eve widgets!
strive nails DEATH'S LEGION	Posted - 2007.11.05 09:36:00 - [176] Originally by: BIZZAROSTORMY and start making eve widgets! well get to work then! :p evemon equivalent plz =) > strive nails - pod killer and implant trader
Viktor Rasmussen Gallente Indra-Sveijk Korps Sev3rance	Posted - 2007.11.05 09:38:00 - [177] I've the same problem with my gentoo-box as some others here I can see the splashscreen but after it nothing happens.. I see 'winserver' and 'wine' is runngin in the background but no loginscreen appears. I also did the copy of the prefs.ini from my cedega installation which didn't change anything. setting the eulaagreed=0 also did nothing I'm running out of ideas atm...
Sevarus James Minmatar Meridian Dynamics FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.05 09:42:00 - [178] Originally by: Viktor Rasmussen I've the same problem with my gentoo-box as some others here I can see the splashscreen but after it nothing happens.. I see 'winserver' and 'wine' is runngin in the background but no loginscreen appears. I also did the copy of the prefs.ini from my cedega installation which didn't change anything. setting the eulaagreed=0 also did nothing I'm running out of ideas atm... Go to the eve configuration choice that is placed in the menu. Run ALL of the tests. My bet is you have alsa/oss fail. If ANY of those tests fail, you will have problems with EVE running. Ubuntu 3d Beryl-Linux Desktop+EVE
Sun Ra Grumpy Old Farts Gruntfuttocks	Posted - 2007.11.05 10:24:00 - [179] Running it here at work on a imac with a ati x1600 gettign 30-40fps in space
Muscaat Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2007.11.05 10:29:00 - [180] Originally by: Sevarus James Originally by: Viktor Rasmussen I've the same problem with my gentoo-box as some others here I can see the splashscreen but after it nothing happens.. I see 'winserver' and 'wine' is runngin in the background but no loginscreen appears. ... Go to the eve configuration choice that is placed in the menu. Run ALL of the tests. My bet is you have alsa/oss fail. If ANY of those tests fail, you will have problems with EVE running. I pass all the tests, still splash & crash.

Sun Ra Grumpy Old Farts Gruntfuttocks	Posted - 2007.11.05 10:30:00 - [181] Originally by: Moridin im a mac n00b trying this out. i entered a resolution my screen cant handle so now i just get a black screen after loging on. crtl+q is my only option save reboot. and hints where i can reset the setting cuz i have noidea Tryed apple+enter to put it in window mode?
Viktor Rasmussen Gallente Indra-Sveijk Korps Sev3rance	Posted - 2007.11.05 10:38:00 - [182] Originally by: Muscaat Originally by: Sevarus James Originally by: Viktor Rasmussen I've the same problem with my gentoo-box as some others here I can see the splashscreen but after it nothing happens.. I see 'winserver' and 'wine' is runngin in the background but no loginscreen appears. ... Go to the eve configuration choice that is placed in the menu. Run ALL of the tests. My bet is you have alsa/oss fail. If ANY of those tests fail, you will have problems with EVE running. I pass all the tests, still splash & crash. For me too! The funny thing is that I already have a working cedega version (with the "old" windows binaries). I can start eve with this installation but I can't with the new client
prsr Gallente JuBa Corp RONA Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.05 10:39:00 - [183] I'm already in FD-MLJ and will be there for some pew-pew testing tonight. But what I really want to know is how to get my mouse and keyboard back from the eve window. It's just rude to steal them until EVE is exited, not to mention that i have to restart X when eve doesn't exit properly. A small guide with some pointers on running the linux and mac versions wouldn't hurt btw. This is all on ubuntu linux + nvidia 8600GT. -- .sig apathy ftw
Skolima	Posted - 2007.11.05 10:58:00 - [184] Tried the linux client... I am staying with wine for now, it's much more stable (read: windows client under wine does not die irregularly... this one does). And wine doesn't force fullscreen mode, does not disable alt+tab and so on.
Sevarus James Minmatar Meridian Dynamics FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.05 11:14:00 - [185] Originally by: Viktor Rasmussen Originally by: Muscaat Originally by: Sevarus James Originally by: Viktor Rasmussen I've the same problem with my gentoo-box as some others here I can see the splashscreen but after it nothing happens.. I see 'winserver' and 'wine' is runngin in the background but no loginscreen appears. ... Go to the eve configuration choice that is placed in the menu. Run ALL of the tests. My bet is you have alsa/oss fail. If ANY of those tests fail, you will have problems with EVE running. I pass all the tests, still splash & crash. For me too! The funny thing is that I already have a working cedega version (with the "old" windows binaries). I can start eve with this installation but I can't with the new client The thing about this install that hacked me off a bit is that it installs INTO the old cedega install...and then will fail to run as its trying to use the old client. I had to move my dot cedega folder to a backup location, remove (entirely) the cedega install and THEN install the new eve client. If you have an existing cedega install, it will mess it up. This client needs to be installed where the USER wants in order not to gimp up existing stuff. For instance, I use cedega for OTHER games, and having this eve specific install overwrite the base cedega install is completely not kosher. This needs to get resolved asap, imho. Ubuntu 3d Beryl-Linux Desktop+EVE
Solbright altaltaltalt	Posted - 2007.11.05 11:18:00 - [186] Originally by: Skolima Tried the linux client... I am staying with wine for now, it's much more stable (read: windows client under wine does not die irregularly... this one does). And wine doesn't force fullscreen mode, does not disable alt+tab and so on. There is a configuration program in the install for setting windowed mode amongst other things. Instability with the desktop shortcuts is common to Cedega. Best to disable them all with the window manager tools and rely on the taskbar for control.
Appletini	Posted - 2007.11.05 11:20:00 - [187] I tried the Mac version and the graphics actually look more detailed than running the pc client when i'm running under bootcamp on the exact same machine (Macbook Pro 17" 2GB RAM) The texture mip bias on the station interiors and exteriors looks better on MAC and a few other things look sharper in the mac version - maybe due to a half texel fetch offset somewhere in this versions shaders? The dither option in the graphics menu does not appear to change anything due to only 24bpp frame buffer being selectable. There is some issues with graphical banding in the space environment background (skybox, or should I say spacebox? ) Looks like its more pronounced in areas with green space, maybe its DXT or 16bit instead of 24bit, other than that it renders fast and the ships look great.
Solbright altaltaltalt	Posted - 2007.11.05 11:22:00 - [188] Originally by: Sevarus James The thing about this install that hacked me off a bit is that it installs INTO the old cedega install...and then will fail to run as its trying to use the old client. I had to move my dot cedega folder to a backup location, remove (entirely) the cedega install and THEN install the new eve client. If you have an existing cedega install, it will mess it up. You got the packaged client going then?
Sevarus James Minmatar Meridian Dynamics FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.05 11:31:00 - [189] Edited by: Sevarus James on 05/11/2007 11:35:26 Edited by: Sevarus James on 05/11/2007 11:34:08 Originally by: Solbright altaltaltalt Originally by: Sevarus James The thing about this install that hacked me off a bit is that it installs INTO the old cedega install...and then will fail to run as its trying to use the old client. I had to move my dot cedega folder to a backup location, remove (entirely) the cedega install and THEN install the new eve client. If you have an existing cedega install, it will mess it up. You got the packaged client going then? After uninstalling the current cedega (backing up the .cedega folder) and then doing a clean install of the eve linux client, yes. Success on the x2 3800 amd dual core box. The xp2400 + fx5200 + sblive usb external sound = splash/n/crash. When this goes live I will probably move to it on the main machines, but there are some gotchas with older hardware and definitely a show stopper with alsa/oss + usb external sound solutions. I'm also showing the eve linux package is lower fps-wise than cedega 6.03 or wine .9.48 but this may be just a bit of tweaking with the eve config panel for gfx settings. Ubuntu 3d Beryl-Linux Desktop+EVE
Real Poison Minmatar Mutually Assured Destruction Dark Matter Coalition	Posted - 2007.11.05 11:46:00 - [190] hmm, tested a bit of ratting with the mac client. while i have 20-30 fps in front of station and 33 fps in mid warp. at a belt with 5-6 rats framerate drops to 8-17 fps :( so i better not dare to join any fleet ops with the mac client :( what are your framerates with the mac client? my machine is a MacBook Pro 2.4ghz core2duo 4gig ram nvidia 8600M GT 256MB with a 7200rpm disk

Sun Ra Grumpy Old Farts Gruntfuttocks	Posted - 2007.11.05 12:03:00 - [191] Originally by: Real Poison hmm, tested a bit of ratting with the mac client. while i have 20-30 fps in front of station and 33 fps in mid warp. at a belt with 5-6 rats framerate drops to 8-17 fps :( so i better not dare to join any fleet ops with the mac client :( what are your framerates with the mac client? my machine is a MacBook Pro 2.4ghz core2duo 4gig ram nvidia 8600M GT 256MB with a 7200rpm disk weird i get up to 75 in warp on a imac with 2.1ghz core2 duo 1gb ram and a ati x1600
Daan Sai HAZCON Inc Knights Of Syndicate	Posted - 2007.11.05 12:21:00 - [192] Originally by: Real Poison while i have 20-30 fps in front of station and 33 fps in mid warp. at a belt with 5-6 rats framerate drops to 8-17 fps :( so i better not dare to join any fleet ops with the mac client :( my machine is a MacBook Pro 2.4ghz core2duo 4gig ram nvidia 8600M GT 256MB with a 7200rpm disk Same machine, better rates 40-50 inempty space , > 100 in jump transitions, but like you when ratting in a belt. Attacked a couple of Serp Admiral BS and a couple of Serp Frigates in my rifter. Frames rates dropped well below 20fps, with quite a few stutters/freezes. Could be bad in larger encounters. However the graphics effects for the standard Serp hybrid ammo damage was way spectacular - big flashy rainbow bursts and very pretty. If this is a taste of some of the new graphics coming it is very nice. So, overall the screen update rates are all over the place, with a much bigger range of performance than under the XP client., and about 30% slower on average in similar situations on same hardware. Underlying engine seems fine, just screen updates seem sluggish - hopefully will improve as this is developed. Not bad for a first release.
Solbright altaltaltalt	Posted - 2007.11.05 12:40:00 - [193] Originally by: Sevarus James After uninstalling the current cedega (backing up the .cedega folder) and then doing a clean install of the eve linux client, yes. Success on the x2 3800 amd dual core box. The xp2400 + fx5200 + sblive usb external sound = splash/n/crash. I think my problem may be that my distro is based on Ubuntu 6.06 (Dapper). I don't have the option of upgrading just yet, but soon.
Viktor Rasmussen Gallente Indra-Sveijk Korps Sev3rance	Posted - 2007.11.05 12:51:00 - [194] still no luck removing the old .cedega directory - reinstall eve and nothing changed. Splash appears, stayes for a few seconds and then dissapears without shoing any login-screen. No log files, no error ... nothing. I can't find any information about this problem since there is NO logfile about the startup-process
Exus PsyCorp INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.11.05 12:55:00 - [195] Tested on OS X Tiger 10.4.10 (Intel Core 2 Duo 2Ghz - 2 go ram DDR2 667mhz) works very well ! òò
Cieries Southern Cross Incorporated	Posted - 2007.11.05 13:35:00 - [196] [Slackware 12] Solved my problem with EVE crashing on splash by (first installing the nvidia linux drivers which i hadn't put in) commenting out the GAME_OPTION line in /usr/bin/eve and editing the EVE program settings in the Cedega UI. At least the game runs, sans bitmaps and text: http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/6955/evelinuxcieriesdd4.jpg I'm running on a Geforce Ti 4200 128MB.
Silc'n Caldari	Posted - 2007.11.05 14:36:00 - [197] Greetings pilots! ubuntu 7.10, intel 915 here - laptop. With WINE the win32 client runs. However, there are several graphical glitches, most notable the "font corruption" problem along with the portrait generation problem, both related to UI. Let's hope with the new client these issues will be resolved. Also, I'm hopeful the UI will become simpler and "smarter". No subtle specular lights, no shading, no bitmaps that make no sense. Also an A+/A- option in every window! Cheers!
Hugh Ruka Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.11.05 14:50:00 - [198] Originally by: Silc'n Greetings pilots! ubuntu 7.10, intel 915 here - laptop. With WINE the win32 client runs. However, there are several graphical glitches, most notable the "font corruption" problem along with the portrait generation problem, both related to UI. Let's hope with the new client these issues will be resolved. Also, I'm hopeful the UI will become simpler and "smarter". No subtle specular lights, no shading, no bitmaps that make no sense. Also an A+/A- option in every window! Cheers! Your problem is the Intel graphics I guess ... I have sh1ty graphics even in Windows with it. Reading this thread, I guess CCP managed to make me stay with windows (apart from ati 8.42.3 driver problems I have) :-)) Originally by: Aravel Thon Originally by: Nith Batoxxx Hi my alt just leanred to fly the ferox............... I am so so terribly sorry...
Dian Cecht Omnicorp Enterprises	Posted - 2007.11.05 15:21:00 - [199] Install fine on Unbuntu 7.10 but does not get past the splash screen. Get the following error: /gddb.py:26: RuntimeWarning: Python C API version mismatch for module gddb_parser: This Python has API version 1013, module gddb_parser has version 1012. Dian
WeeLB	Posted - 2007.11.05 16:21:00 - [200] I just wiped my HDD and reinstalled Leopard. The first thing I did, w/o patching anything, was to try and copy Eve to the Apps folder, and the file is still unsupported (this is a new file that I d/l'd last night). The only thing left as far as I can tell is to download ANOTHER copy of the image file with this new install. Is anyone else running Leopard on a MacBook? (I've seen Leopard on iMacs but I didn't notice a MacBook) The only remaining issue that I could possibly imagine would be that a case-sensitive HDD format somehow screws up the file. That is, everything is OK so long as it is inside the image file, but once it is copied to the HDD the introduction of case-sensitivity interferes with a configuration file somewhere inside the package. Any Mac users here have a case-sensitive format?

damasel	Posted - 2007.11.05 16:28:00 - [201] Edited by: damasel on 05/11/2007 16:28:02 Thx CCP :)
Ryu Nagatomi	Posted - 2007.11.05 16:47:00 - [202] Installed the client for Mac last night on Leopard, and everything worked fine. Now trying to start it up again and I get "Incompatible version (release)". Seems CCP turned off autopatching on the test server? Or is there something else going on here? Besides from that, from the little testing I did last night, I seem to get a pretty constant framerate of 35-45 in station and in space, on a 2.2Ghz C2D MacbookPro with an ATI X1600. No artifacts during rendering, everything loads and seems to be usable. Go CCP :)
Katrina Sarchis	Posted - 2007.11.05 17:03:00 - [203] I am also getting the "Server Status: Incompatible (Release)" Error when I am trying to connect to Multiplicity.
HydroSan GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.05 17:09:00 - [204] Originally by: WeeLB I just wiped my HDD and reinstalled Leopard. The first thing I did, w/o patching anything, was to try and copy Eve to the Apps folder, and the file is still unsupported (this is a new file that I d/l'd last night). The only thing left as far as I can tell is to download ANOTHER copy of the image file with this new install. Is anyone else running Leopard on a MacBook? (I've seen Leopard on iMacs but I didn't notice a MacBook) The only remaining issue that I could possibly imagine would be that a case-sensitive HDD format somehow screws up the file. That is, everything is OK so long as it is inside the image file, but once it is copied to the HDD the introduction of case-sensitivity interferes with a configuration file somewhere inside the package. Any Mac users here have a case-sensitive format? My Macbook uses non-case-sensitive and Leopard, and the client works fine.
Bogu D	Posted - 2007.11.05 17:22:00 - [205] I've also been running the Mac client on Leopard with a Mac Pro. Work very smoothly. The HD is non-case sensitive. How can I check the frame rate of the client? Is that an option somewhere? Btw I'm also getting the "Incompatible release" now.
C Identity	Posted - 2007.11.05 17:37:00 - [206] Edited by: C Identity on 05/11/2007 17:38:54 I'm currently running EVE on a Macbook with Leopard, and it seems to work.... Amazing... The Intel graphics ain't performing that bad compared to windows. Anyhow, it installed without a prob. Journalled non case sensitive HD. On the iMac 20" with the X1600 I also have Leopard, and it works fine. Framerates might be a bit lower than with bootcamp, but remember this ain't a native client...... - C And yes, also incompatible release here now..... grmbl... I wanna play with this new Mac toy ;)
WeeLB	Posted - 2007.11.05 17:41:00 - [207] Edited by: WeeLB on 05/11/2007 17:41:50 Thanks for the replies everyone. It turns out that the program is not compatible with a case-sensitive HDD format, as I just got it to install without a hitch after another drive format. Funny, but I'm glad this problem cropped up because I did not realise that case-sensitive formats are a somewhat new MacOS feature (at least for non-server apps) and support may vary from app to app. Thanks again for everyone's help!
Kappas. Galaxy Punks	Posted - 2007.11.05 17:45:00 - [208] It'd be nice to know where the installer downloads the files to, as in my case the install failed because it couldn't unpack it into a certain directory resulting in me having to redownload 800mb.... Galaxy Punks are recruiting, click here for more info [site in beta ;)]
Lazlomass Arndt	Posted - 2007.11.05 18:06:00 - [209] 1.I installed the client in the Applications folder. 2.I run the client and enter 87.237.38.51 3.Put in account info as of October 4.And receive this error: "Could not connect to the specified address. Odds are that you have not established and internet connection, the server isn't running, or the server address or port number was wrong" I have and internet connection. Running 10.4.10, Intel Core 2 Duo 2.16, 2gigs ram, NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GT256mb Any ideas? --
Patrice Storm	Posted - 2007.11.05 18:12:00 - [210] I can't connect, I always get Incompatible (Release) message. If I type in the IP-address of Multiplicity it states "checking release..." but it never finishes...

Lazlomass Arndt	Posted - 2007.11.05 18:16:00 - [211] Originally by: Patrice Storm I can't connect, I always get Incompatible (Release) message. If I type in the IP-address of Multiplicity it states "checking release..." but it never finishes... Well, at least you get that far. The client is telling me I don't have an internet connection.
Lazlomass Arndt	Posted - 2007.11.05 18:21:00 - [212] Originally by: Lazlomass Arndt 1.I installed the client in the Applications folder. 2.I run the client and enter 87.237.38.51 3.Put in account info as of October 4.And receive this error: "Could not connect to the specified address. Odds are that you have not established and internet connection, the server isn't running, or the server address or port number was wrong" I have and internet connection. Running 10.4.10, Intel Core 2 Duo 2.16, 2gigs ram, NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GT256mb Any ideas? -- Got it - Turn off Little Snitch if you have it running or create a rule for EVE and Wine. However, now I am getting the Incompatible (release) error.
Nox'Beldrath Mayven Omni Gestalt	Posted - 2007.11.05 18:49:00 - [213] Getting the incompatable release error as well at the log-in screen. Yes, the IP given for Multi is right... something change? ____________ M.O.G. Army
Juan Ker	Posted - 2007.11.05 18:59:00 - [214] Originally by: WeeLB Is anyone else running Leopard on a MacBook? (I've seen Leopard on iMacs but I didn't notice a MacBook) The only remaining issue that I could possibly imagine would be that a case-sensitive HDD format somehow screws up the file. That is, everything is OK so long as it is inside the image file, but once it is copied to the HDD the introduction of case-sensitivity interferes with a configuration file somewhere inside the package. Any Mac users here have a case-sensitive format? My MacBook runs it perfectly. I will say I believe the case-sensitive FS is the root of your problem, as it's the root of quite a few problems.

CCP Casqade	Posted - 2007.11.05 18:59:00 - [215] Hi. We're currently testing tomorrows official build on multiplicity and that is why the public testing has been closed. Next time you can run the client will be on Tranquility after tomorrows downtime at 1400 GMT. Any bugs that you have encountered can be reported here: https://bugs.eve-online.com/newbugreport.asp When you do so, please make sure you add information about your system so that we can determine the cause. Please note that there will not be a patch available from the Test build that was released in this news article, to the new build that you need to connect to Tranquility. You will have to download the full official installer which will be available tomorrow after the patch has been deployed. See you again after downtime.

Nox'Beldrath Mayven Omni Gestalt	Posted - 2007.11.05 19:03:00 - [216] Sweet. And by sweet, I mean: totally cool. Also: I will have your babies... Been without EVE since the PC died. ____________ M.O.G. Army
Wabby Bel Amarr Paxton Industries Paxton Federation	Posted - 2007.11.05 19:13:00 - [217] So I ask again, when might we see ATI support? Why isn't ATI support at the moment (just curious)?
Kappas. Galaxy Punks	Posted - 2007.11.05 19:26:00 - [218] Originally by: CCP Casqade Please note that there will not be a patch available from the Test build that was released in this news article, to the new build that you need to connect to Tranquility. You will have to download the full official installer which will be available tomorrow after the patch has been deployed. Hmmm so I wasted 2.4GBs of bandwidth downloading this 3 times till i could get it to load... Thanks for the delayed message Originally by: Wabby Bel So I ask again, when might we see ATI support? Why isn't ATI support at the moment (just curious)? Because ATIs drivers for linux suck ass. It may work, or it may not. Galaxy Punks are recruiting, click here for more info [site in beta ;)]
Zaxslann	Posted - 2007.11.05 19:37:00 - [219] I was in for a few beautiful moments this morning, you are my heroes CCP. Glad you can see that Windows isn't the only OS people want to play games on and that it will continue to be even more so in the future. You rock, keep it up.
zBeeble Amarr	Posted - 2007.11.05 19:37:00 - [220] First of all, I applaud this step away from the evil empire and I want to emphasize that the following is not critical of that brave step, but offered as a starting point for further improvements to the eve client. I run EVE primarily on FreeBSD using wine. There are several reasons for this, but the most important is that FreeBSD is my primary OS for doing work and EVE requires that one logs in more often than just playing the game --- one has to login to set the next skill to training. Being able to queue several skills to train would be a valued improvement here. Currently, on FreeBSD with wine, the major bugs are the audio (inoperable) and some graphics bugs that mostly show up after one has been playing for some time --- I think there might be a memory leak related to this. Eve Voice is also not supported. Let me emphasize at this point that EVE working under FreeBSD with wine (even unofficially) was key in my decision to join EVE. Had it not worked, I would not have purchased an account. I do have a copy of XP for my laptop (a Dell XPS with a 7800 GTS in it)... and I do use it for gaming. Neverwinter Nights II and Oblivion don't work (at least not well) under wine. PvP and fleet play still require that I use windoze. Sound and eve voice are important there. For standard mission running and mining, however, I run without sound. It works well enough --- although for background mining, sound would be nice so I know when the rats arrive. I have, in one of my many jobs, been tasked with developing and maintaining code that runs on more than 20 architectures including DOS, Windows, UN*X, and (open)VMS. There are many challenges to this task. Most of those challenges are moot with python. In fact, I would bet the only significant challenge to a full native port of the eve client is DirectX vs. OpenGL. Now... my knowledge of GL comes from the time before "open" was added to it when I had a 4D-35 beside my desk with the optional 3000 watt video card beside it. At 5000 watts (total) and about 200 lbs, it was about as capable as my laptop is now. It was certainly noisier (although a good chunk of that was the 5 1/4 full height 1G disk it came with). Anyways... it impresses me that on-the-fly DirectX to OpenGL translation is possible without significant degredation in performance (although other people have mentioned pauses as new model items are added --- I do see this). Most amazingly, I am led to understand that this includes on-the-fly translation of pixel shader code. Finally, to my point: Eve does not stress the performance of graphics cards. My laptop's fans do not appreciably spin faster when playing eve and the heat coming from the laptop seems normal (unlike NWN2 ... where you can cook things back there and the fans spin up to "hover" mode). I appreciate that the new DX10 and DX9 code in the upcoming release will look "prettier" ... but It's still unlikely to stress modern hardware. For this reason, I feel safe in saying that an OpenGL engine will give identical performance to a DirectX engine. Take that a step further, and given that OpenGL is available on all platforms, an OpenGL client should have no problems running natively on all systems --- even those not directly supported (like, say, a sun or even an OpenVMS alpha (heh)) It's great to see some support for Linux. Unfortunately, linux is not a single item... but a class of systems. I would really like to see an OpenGL native client. Maybe if CCP open sourced the client, someone would help :).


CCP Casqade	Posted - 2007.11.05 19:39:00 - [221] Originally by: Wabby Bel So I ask again, when might we see ATI support? Why isn't ATI support at the moment (just curious)? Here is an answer: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=629253&page=1#10 Originally by: Kappas. Hmmm so I wasted 2.4GBs of bandwidth downloading this 3 times till i could get it to load... Thanks for the delayed message I'm sorry about that.

WeeLB	Posted - 2007.11.05 19:53:00 - [222] &threadID Originally by: CCP Casqade Originally by: Wabby Bel So I ask again, when might we see ATI support? Why isn't ATI support at the moment (just curious)? Here is an answer: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=629253&page=1#10 Originally by: Kappas. Hmmm so I wasted 2.4GBs of bandwidth downloading this 3 times till i could get it to load... Thanks for the delayed message I'm sorry about that. Hey, it could be worse. Look on the bright side, at least he didn't have to download the program 3 times and format his drive twice! :-) Thanks for your efforts to get a (more) native client for us non-MSers.
Kernel Sander Epiphyte Mining and Exploration Combined Planetary Union	Posted - 2007.11.05 20:07:00 - [223] Edited by: Kernel Sander on 05/11/2007 20:14:14 First: Thank you CCP for the OSX client! Second, I have a question that is completely baffling me. It appears as though Trinity 2 is not about to be released with the tuesday update. I was under the impression that OSX/Linux were going to get the Trinity 2 client. So... one of four things is happening and after following the forums and the dev blogs and the release notes I am thoroughly confused and cannot figure out which one is correct: [1] Tonight's downtime will be followed by a client update, at which point everyone will be using the Trinity 2 client. Which means the client currently on my laptop is Trinity 2. [2] CCP is porting both the current client and the Trinity 2 client to OSX/Linux. The client currently on my laptop is T1. [3] CCP ported the T1 client, and they are simply going to extend support of that client so that we can keep playing the game on OSX/Linux after T2 becomes active on Windows. The client currently on my laptop is T1. or [4] OSX/Linux are getting the T2 upgrade since we're locked out of the brand-new-swoopy-art anyhow, and the Windows T2 upgrade will happen at a later time. The client currently on my laptop is T2. Can someone straighten me out as to what is actually going on? Oh, and since it's now considered gauche not to post system specs: Mac OSX Leopard - MacBook Pro 2.33GHz C2D CPU - 2G RAM - ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 x/256M VRAM --- THIS IS MY SIG. BUNNIES AND STUFF --- ----- INSERT ASCII AMIGA LOGO HERE -----
Kappas. Galaxy Punks	Posted - 2007.11.05 20:19:00 - [224] Originally by: Kernel Sander Edited by: Kernel Sander on 05/11/2007 20:14:14 First: Thank you CCP for the OSX client! Second, I have a question that is completely baffling me. It appears as though Trinity 2 is not about to be released with the tuesday update. I was under the impression that OSX/Linux were going to get the Trinity 2 client. So... one of four things is happening and after following the forums and the dev blogs and the release notes I am thoroughly confused and cannot figure out which one is correct: [1] Tonight's downtime will be followed by a client update, at which point everyone will be using the Trinity 2 client. Which means the client currently on my laptop is Trinity 2. [2] CCP is porting both the current client and the Trinity 2 client to OSX/Linux. The client currently on my laptop is T1. [3] CCP ported the T1 client, and they are simply going to extend support of that client so that we can keep playing the game on OSX/Linux after T2 becomes active on Windows. The client currently on my laptop is T1. or [4] OSX/Linux are getting the T2 upgrade since we're locked out of the brand-new-swoopy-art anyhow, and the Windows T2 upgrade will happen at a later time. The client currently on my laptop is T2. Can someone straighten me out as to what is actually going on? The OSX and Linux clients are the client that Eve has now (basically) so you won't get new ship models until TransGaming/CCP release it. The patch tomorrow is just for bug fixes and adding support for these clients, read the patchnotes. Trinity 2 will come out at the end of November, beginning of December (tm). Casquade: Apology accepted Galaxy Punks are recruiting, click here for more info [site in beta ;)]
Kernel Sander Epiphyte Mining and Exploration Combined Planetary Union	Posted - 2007.11.05 21:11:00 - [225] Edited by: Kernel Sander on 05/11/2007 21:15:48 Edited by: Kernel Sander on 05/11/2007 21:12:18 -- Grammar fixes Originally by: Kappas. The OSX and Linux clients are the client that Eve has now (basically) so you won't get new ship models until TransGaming/CCP release it. The patch tomorrow is just for bug fixes and adding support for these clients, read the patchnotes. Trinity 2 will come out at the end of November, beginning of December (tm). Sorry, that's not exactly what I am wondering. Trinity 2 is a ground-up rewrite, correct? Or close enough to it? Tons of formerly python-handled graphics and game-logic code implemented in sweet, sweet C++? If this is "the client that Eve has now (basically)," then that begs the question: did CCP port the entire Trinity 1 engine just so OSX and Linux could have a client for 3 solid weeks, before they upgrade us all to Trinity 2 which was also* ported the Transgaming?* The only other options are: - OSX/Linux are using the Trinity 2 client right now, and Windows will get that client at a later date; - Only the Trinity 1 engine was ported to OSX/Linux, and the T1 engine will be supported after the big Reveleations n.n update which introduces T2 to Windows users only. I'm just wondering which of these possibilities is correct. --- THIS IS MY SIG. BUNNIES AND STUFF --- ----- INSERT ASCII AMIGA LOGO HERE -----

CCP kieron	Posted - 2007.11.05 21:30:00 - [226] Update: The links provided in the announcement earlier have been removed, as they will not work on Tranquility after the patch deployment and Multiplicity is currently not accepting connections. New links to complete build downloads will be provided after the patch has been deployed. We apologize for any confusion or inconvenience this has caused the community. kieron Director of Community Relations, EVE Online EVE Online, CCP Games Email/Netfang Look Ma, I'm in a Dev thread! Oh wait...

Cyber Blue Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2007.11.05 21:37:00 - [227] Let me get this straight and be sure I am reading everything correctly in all the threads. As of Tuesday, we will be able to play Classic EVE with this product, however, in order to utilize the graphics updates coming with Trinity, we will still need to use Windows until sometime next year. Is this correct? Khan - "To the last, I grapple with thee; from Hell's heart, I stab at thee; for hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee."
Eol Ruin Minmatar Vanguard Frontiers INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.11.05 22:00:00 - [228] Edited by: Eol Ruin on 05/11/2007 22:00:11 Originally by: Wabby Bel So I ask again, when might we see ATI support? Why isn't ATI support at the moment (just curious)? It works with my ATI X800 ... at least to the login screen (more I cannot say as Multiplicity is currently NOT for linux testing) -- =(there is no question that cannot be answered if we use our brain)= TFBTB: http://eolruin.livejournal.com/
Bishop Ares	Posted - 2007.11.05 22:42:00 - [229] Originally by: CCP kieron Update: The links provided in the announcement earlier have been removed, as they will not work on Tranquility after the patch deployment and Multiplicity is currently not accepting connections. New links to complete build downloads will be provided after the patch has been deployed. We apologize for any confusion or inconvenience this has caused the community. The patch IS deployed now right? Can we have this link?
Mr Fledermaus Gallente Munich Global Activities	Posted - 2007.11.05 23:18:00 - [230] EVE will run on Mac and LINUX officially. All i can say. You are great CCP. Look forward in developing native support on this platforms and i think you win a lot new players of doing this step. It is time for game developers to show, that it is worth to win the hearts of a free open OS like LINUX and also other OS Platforms. I wish you less bugs and problems in implementation. The community i wish patience, for doing the first steps and keep in mind when it runs once, it runs well. Mr. Fledermaus Theres allways someone who knows more....

Muscaat Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2007.11.05 23:55:00 - [231] Edited by: Muscaat on 06/11/2007 00:03:06 Originally by: Kernel Sander If this is "the client that Eve has now (basically)," then that begs the question: did CCP port the entire Trinity 1 engine just so OSX and Linux could have a client for 3 solid weeks, before they upgrade us all to Trinity 2 which was also* ported the Transgaming?* They ported nothing. The Mac and Linux clients are the same executable as the Windows client, with a Cedega/Cider wrapper. Nothing more, nothing less. EDIT: Oh, and I'm sure I remember a dev blog about how Trinity 2 will only be available for Windows, while anyone with a decent OS will have the re-badged current Trinity Classic engine.
jonfr	Posted - 2007.11.06 01:03:00 - [232] Running in limited Windows API on top of linux is actually worse then running a native client. I would prefer native client, but I can make due with windows api mess and all its problems. At least for some time. For those how are interested, I have this wine version installed, [ebuild R ] app-emulation/wine-0.9.39 But I don't know if it helps running EVE Online, but I have been able to run EVE online without many issues in the test I did do. As limited they where. ---- Sign has been stolen by ugly dwarf from a unknown solar system.
koer	Posted - 2007.11.06 03:02:00 - [233] FINALLY!!! i have been waiting for this for some time now, i was running eve with wine, but poor performance was an issue , i hope this helps :D THX CCP!!!
Kaiser Soeze	Posted - 2007.11.06 04:34:00 - [234] Guess I missed the boat on downloading the Mac client... They removed it from the original post and I can't find a link anywhere else. Looks like I'll bring the MBP to work.
Kostik Zlodey Xenobytes	Posted - 2007.11.06 07:42:00 - [235] Edited by: Kostik Zlodey on 06/11/2007 07:42:14 It's end of work
jens lynux	Posted - 2007.11.06 10:16:00 - [236] CCP you just made me windoze-free - I freakin' love ya :-D
Angelik'a Gallente	Posted - 2007.11.06 11:51:00 - [237] Originally by: Kernel Sander Edited by: Kernel Sander on 05/11/2007 21:15:48 Edited by: Kernel Sander on 05/11/2007 21:12:18 -- Grammar fixes Originally by: Kappas. The OSX and Linux clients are the client that Eve has now (basically) so you won't get new ship models until TransGaming/CCP release it. The patch tomorrow is just for bug fixes and adding support for these clients, read the patchnotes. Trinity 2 will come out at the end of November, beginning of December (tm). Sorry, that's not exactly what I am wondering. Trinity 2 is a ground-up rewrite, correct? Or close enough to it? Tons of formerly python-handled graphics and game-logic code implemented in sweet, sweet C++? If this is "the client that Eve has now (basically)," then that begs the question: did CCP port the entire Trinity 1 engine just so OSX and Linux could have a client for 3 solid weeks, before they upgrade us all to Trinity 2 which was also* ported the Transgaming?* The only other options are: - OSX/Linux are using the Trinity 2 client right now, and Windows will get that client at a later date; - Only the Trinity 1 engine was ported to OSX/Linux, and the T1 engine will be supported after the big Reveleations n.n update which introduces T2 to Windows users only. I'm just wondering which of these possibilities is correct. Originally by: CCP Lingorm We will be supporting Linux and Mac on the Classic client immediately and Transgaminag are working on added the needed Shader Model 3 functions to their product to get full support into place. We will be discussion the time lines on this support this week. It IS coming but not immediately (we are targeting early next year but will have more details later this week).
Bishop Ares	Posted - 2007.11.06 11:54:00 - [238] Hey I love that Mac is going to be supported..but next time lets just tell us it works after it works instead of announcing 6 days early and making people suffer having to wait for it.
Daporc Hulo	Posted - 2007.11.06 13:00:00 - [239] Just 2 questions. Are you required to pay Cedega's 5 USD monthly fee if you want to play the officially supported EvE linux version? Are you hindering EvE from working under Wine so we _have_ to use Cedega? Ty.

CCP Explorer	Posted - 2007.11.06 13:14:00 - [240] Originally by: Daporc Hulo Are you required to pay Cedega's 5 USD monthly fee if you want to play the officially supported EvE linux version? No. Originally by: Daporc Hulo Are you hindering EvE from working under Wine so we _have_ to use Cedega? No. Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson Software Director EVE Online, CCP Games


Aiko Intaki	Posted - 2007.11.06 13:19:00 - [241] Edited by: Aiko Intaki on 06/11/2007 13:23:59 Thanks again for the nice OS X client CCP! Have you made any speculative answers yet on a timeframe for support of the coming graphical update on Mac? Are we looking at similarly-timed release? A several month delay? A half-year delay? More? Just curious. Edit: One of my pre-loaded tabs answered my own question... We will be supporting Linux and Mac on the Classic client immediately and Transgaminag are working on added the needed Shader Model 3 functions to their product to get full support into place. We will be discussion the time lines on this support this week. It IS coming but not immediately (we are targeting early next year but will have more details later this week). Sorry about that. I blame tabbed browsing.
Immalt	Posted - 2007.11.06 13:23:00 - [242] Originally by: Aiko Intaki Edited by: Aiko Intaki on 06/11/2007 13:21:28 Thanks again for the nice OS X client CCP! Have you made any speculative answers yet on a timeframe for support of the coming graphical update on Mac? Are we looking at similarly-timed release? A several month delay? A half-year delay? More? Just curious. Edit: One of my pre-loaded tabs answered my own question... We will be supporting Linux and Mac on the Classic client immediately and Transgaminag are working on added the needed Shader Model 3 functions to their product to get full support into place. We will be discussion the time lines on this support this week. It IS coming but not immediately (we are targeting early next year but will have more details later this week). Sorry about that. I blame tabbed browsing. Well that sucks a bit. Still gonna have to use Windows for a while longer then, I guess...
JGJones Amarr Viziam	Posted - 2007.11.06 13:51:00 - [243] CCP - I'll like to point out that I stopped playing EVE-Online roughly about 2 years ago. I've not played EVE-Online since then. My reason for this is that I do not have Windows - I only have Linux in my house (Ubuntu/Xubuntu) and my wife's is a Macbook Pro with OSX, and I've got two laptops (a Dell Vosto 1500 and a Macbook) both with Ubuntu (no OSX). Nature of my work is such that I do not need Windows at all. I don't play much games, but those that I do I can already play on Ubuntu - for example Team Fortress 2 - I can play that quite well in Ubuntu under bog standard wine. Having heard of EVE-Online being officially supported for Linux - guess what I did? Yup I went and reactivated my account! * Officially supporting Linux have won you a new customer * Bigger kudos for still keeping my account for 2 years - I was pleased to see my old character was still there with all the skills gained etc - I was not expecting this at all! I just wanted to mention that because with CCP's decision to support Linux have won you a new customer - I wish to support this decision. I am aware that it's not a ported client yet, nevertheless you are aiming to support the client and that's a strong factor. SO thank you CCP for this ----------------------------------- Y Ddraig ddyry gychwyn
C Identity	Posted - 2007.11.06 13:58:00 - [244] The test on Mac OSX worked fine, but I see there is only a Full-Screen option available in the beta. Is there any plan to support windowed EVE too on Mac OS X (and on Linux for the other X peeps ;) ) Or is there maybe some Cider/Cedega setting to get windowed EVE working? - C
Nox'Beldrath Mayven Omni Gestalt	Posted - 2007.11.06 15:02:00 - [245] apple+return = windowed mode ____________ M.O.G. Army
CherniyVolk	Posted - 2007.11.06 15:27:00 - [246] Gentoo from scratch. Over two years of ~x86 and emerge -upD world.... so the actual Gentoo Version is a bit redundant by now. Hardware, Custom laptop from www.NextComputing.com. 1600x1200 UXGA screen, accelerated ATI Radeon 9700, 3GHZ P4 (6004.52 bogomips! :D). Cedega 6.0.3 engine and wine 0.9.44 installed Xorg Server 1.1.1-r5 (Masked to maintain compatibility with best ATI Drivers.) ATI Drivers 8.37.6-r1 (Most stable and compatible drivers for Game Emulation) Kernel 2.6.22 with SMP and PREEMPT compiled in. IRQ sharing disabled, IRQ balancing disabled, Hot Plug disabled from boot process. Generic optimizations disabled (misnomer if you can target a system, it's not an optimization at all). Multi-core and SMT support compiled in, but disabled in the BIOS (Game Emulation has not benefited from logical processors for me). All power management features disabled for forcing peak operational performance along with reducing IO. P4 Thermal Throttling also ignored. Generalized hdparm optimizations on the harddrive. All in all, EVE runs pretty fast in either Window or Fullscreen, even running alongside WINE emulating Ventrilo on the side.
Muscaat Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2007.11.06 15:27:00 - [247] Good to see some improvements from the public beta a few days ago... rather than crashing silently after the splash screen, now it actually gives an error message! Quote: $ eve Single-user install... This is the update checker... Running ~/.cedega/.updater/cedega_updater.py ~/.cedega/.updater/gddb.py:26: RuntimeWarning: Python C API version mismatch for module gddb_parser: This Python has API version 1013, module gddb_parser has version 1012. import gddb_parser Running... ~/.cedega/.ui/runGUI ~/.cedega/.ui/gddb.py:24: RuntimeWarning: Python C API version mismatch for module gddb_parser: This Python has API version 1013, module gddb_parser has version 1012. import gddb_parser QDir::currentDirPath: getcwd() failed QDir::currentDirPath: getcwd() failed QDir::currentDirPath: getcwd() failed QDir::currentDirPath: getcwd() failed QDir::currentDirPath: getcwd() failed QDir::currentDirPath: getcwd() failed QDir::currentDirPath: getcwd() failed QDir::currentDirPath: getcwd() failed Traceback (most recent call last): File "~/.cedega/.ui/Point2Play_gui.py", line 2857, in <module> retval = Point2Play_ref.winex( 0, runcmd_game_folder, shortcut_properties["Path"], shortcut_properties["Workdir"], cmdlineoverride=cmdlineargs, debug_channel=debug_channels, gddb_file=gddb_file, shortcut_name=shortcut_properties["Name"] ) File "~/.cedega/.ui/Point2Play.py", line 1723, in winex saved_dir = os.getcwd() OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory Error in sys.excepthook: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.5/apport_python_hook.py", line 44, in apport_excepthook binary = os.path.realpath(os.path.join(os.getcwdu(), sys.argv[0])) OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory Original exception was: Traceback (most recent call last): File "~/.cedega/.ui/Point2Play_gui.py", line 2857, in <module> retval = Point2Play_ref.winex( 0, runcmd_game_folder, shortcut_properties["Path"], shortcut_properties["Workdir"], cmdlineoverride=cmdlineargs, debug_channel=debug_channels, gddb_file=gddb_file, shortcut_name=shortcut_properties["Name"] ) File "~/.cedega/.ui/Point2Play.py", line 1723, in winex saved_dir = os.getcwd() OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory ...oh, except that now this is unreproducible and it goes back to silent crash after splash screen. Back to Wine it is...
C Identity	Posted - 2007.11.06 15:40:00 - [248] Originally by: Nox'Beldrath apple+return = windowed mode Ah yeah, stupid me... However, I was wondering EVE could start in windows mode from start, but this is a good workaround. Also, for Mac OS X users that need teamspeak. I am running teamspeex for Mac OS X for some time, and it's working fine for me. It doesn't have all the options the MS Windows versions have, but it's usable for sure, more info: http://www.savvy.nl/blog/
geomagick	Posted - 2007.11.06 16:25:00 - [249] Just loaded up the OS X version on my first generation Macbook Pro and it runs superbly. Although most of my gaming is done on my windows desktop having the client on the Mac will further remove me from reality when not at home. Damn you CCP, but also a really big WELL DONE.
Barter Town	Posted - 2007.11.06 16:28:00 - [250] Is there any way to run multiple clients on OS X? I'm wondering if this would work if you downloaded two separate EVE clients, which would be two seperate programs in the Applications folder? Any feedback from someone who's tried would be appreciated. I'd try it myself but since it's necessary to re-download the Mac client entirely- after having just downloaded it 2 days ago in the public test- and my connection's not great, it'll be a while before I can try these things. Thanks in advance. BT

Veritus Gothicus	Posted - 2007.11.06 16:59:00 - [251] Quote: Is there any way to run multiple clients on OS X? I'm wondering if this would work if you downloaded two separate EVE clients, which would be two seperate programs in the Applications folder? Any feedback from someone who's tried would be appreciated. I'd try it myself but since it's necessary to re-download the Mac client entirely- after having just downloaded it 2 days ago in the public test- and my connection's not great, it'll be a while before I can try these things. Thanks in advance. BT Well, you could always just make a copy of the .app and then you would be able to launch 2 clients. No need to download twice... J^2
Barter Town	Posted - 2007.11.06 17:23:00 - [252] Originally by: Veritus Gothicus Quote: Is there any way to run multiple clients on OS X? I'm wondering if this would work if you downloaded two separate EVE clients, which would be two seperate programs in the Applications folder? Any feedback from someone who's tried would be appreciated. I'd try it myself but since it's necessary to re-download the Mac client entirely- after having just downloaded it 2 days ago in the public test- and my connection's not great, it'll be a while before I can try these things. Thanks in advance. BT Well, you could always just make a copy of the .app and then you would be able to launch 2 clients. No need to download twice... J^2 Thanks for the quick reply Veritus. So even though it's a Cider wrapper it should still work like a standard OSX .app? Hope so. Using Speed Download to grab the installer, still going to be a while. Can't wait to have this up and running on my MBP. But if you're right about being able to create and run copies of the app- and I think you are- I'm going to make separate app icons of each character's avatar sitting there in my Dock. It's eye candy but it'll be awesome.
princess katie	Posted - 2007.11.06 17:43:00 - [253] All of this is useless; Quote: Several 'Need for Speed' code optimizations have been added to the client. The newly supported Linux and Macintosh operating systems can now be specified when submitting technical petitions. If an office's rent expires while a BP is in production and is not re-rented before the job is completed, the BP's will return to the impound. The wallet mouseover display will update correctly on balance change. A rare error that prevented a recently podded player from opening their wallet has been resolved. An exception occuring upon client resize has been resolved. A number of drop down menu now have larger boxes. A number of minor Unicode errors in right click menus have been resolved. Various fixes and enhancements have been added to our billing and petition systems, as well as to GM tools. If you cant get on because your server keep kicking every one out. Like is has right now. And dont you just love this phrase "most likly you are not connected to the internet" or "TQ Has experienced a problem. We will have the servers back online momentarily. Details will be forthcoming in a forum post soon." I just wonder if any one has read the meaning of momentarily. Quote: 1. For a moment or an instant. 2. Usage Problem In a moment; very soon hmmmm I wonder if the powers that be think that the word "moment" is Latin for "hours"
Fi T'Zeh Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.11.06 18:28:00 - [254] Anyone else getting a 404 on the mac client download page? .... Playing EVE on easy mode since May 2003.
fatmanpaul	Posted - 2007.11.06 18:29:00 - [255] If you get it to work I will go and buy a Mac for Christmas
Armond Fortier	Posted - 2007.11.06 18:38:00 - [256] Originally by: Fi T'Zeh Anyone else getting a 404 on the mac client download page? I am getting a Not Found error as well on the mac client. Oh well I was looking forward to trying it out on my MacbookPro today guess I'll have to wait until the problem is resolved. ^_^
invY Ancoron Minmatar	Posted - 2007.11.06 18:44:00 - [257] Is there a way to avoid using Point2Play and just start cedega+eve? can't find a cedega executable... P2P just gives me a segmentation fault, not even displaying anything.
Barter Town	Posted - 2007.11.06 18:44:00 - [258] Originally by: Fi T'Zeh Anyone else getting a 404 on the mac client download page? Yes I am too. I was part way into the dmg download when the error dialogue popped up. Well, I guess I'd rather get it once the problems are ironed out than getting it now and having to fix/update it.
Armond Fortier	Posted - 2007.11.06 18:49:00 - [259] I posted the correct link in my orginal post, there is a typo on the client page link. They use a "_" instead of "-" just before "mac.dmg" Hopefully they will update the link soon. ^_^ -Armond
Fi T'Zeh Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.11.06 19:00:00 - [260] !win .... Playing EVE on easy mode since May 2003.

CrazyIvan Minmatar Calista Industries Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2007.11.06 19:58:00 - [261] Bleh, I meant to post this post in this thread, not the other.. Sorry for cross posting.. Anyway.. Summary.. links to a 'working on my machine' ebuild for Gentoo, certainly not tested on many machines yet I'd imagine.. so your luck with it may or may not work. And of course, Always always always read a 3rd party ebuild before you run them, they are run as root, make sure you know what they are doing. goes to cancel his cedega subscription now that eve 'includes' cedega

CCP Casqade	Posted - 2007.11.06 20:11:00 - [262] We temporarily disabled the link. It should work again now.

Azrael Larsa	Posted - 2007.11.06 20:34:00 - [263] Well, regarding the mac client - so far so good. Apart from the fact that 70% of the time I'm getting the same really odd graphical glitches that I encountered when testing in Multiplicity. For example - random icons dotting up all over the place, full screen sized renderings of the chatroom, overview, navicom, etc.. and the hull of my ship sporting a rather interesting rainbow pattern!! I've just reported this but was curious to know if anyone else had come across these rather trippy problems!!

CCP Casqade	Posted - 2007.11.06 20:46:00 - [264] Have you tried selecting "no depth buffer" under your "Graphics" tab?

Smurf999	Posted - 2007.11.06 22:37:00 - [265] Is it just me, but I am new to this and I have been kicked out about 10 times, it keeps coming up with either connection lost to server or the whole program crashes. I am using the current Macbook Pro?
Suki Kamir	Posted - 2007.11.06 22:40:00 - [266] I just installed the Linux client on Ubuntu Gutsy, running Dual 6600GT NVidia Cards. Everything seems to be ok but I noticed the graphics in the fittings window are corrupted. Suki
Sevarus James Minmatar Meridian Dynamics FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.06 23:30:00 - [267] Originally by: Suki Kamir I just installed the Linux client on Ubuntu Gutsy, running Dual 6600GT NVidia Cards. Everything seems to be ok but I noticed the graphics in the fittings window are corrupted. Suki We've had that glitch for ages under regular cedega. it seems that the more memory constrained you are, the more likely that gfx glitch shows up. It doesn't affect fitting, but is a little bit pita making sure you drop modules in the right spots. Ubuntu 3d Beryl-Linux Desktop+EVE
Rai Louis	Posted - 2007.11.07 01:12:00 - [268] Edited by: Rai Louis on 07/11/2007 01:13:10 2 byte language not view or window mode not support?
Becka Call	Posted - 2007.11.07 03:03:00 - [269] Originally by: Crass Spektakel A linux client sounds nice, so I can play EVE even while only having my small computer at hand. Too bad that my distribution isn't officially supported (Ubuntu 6.06 Long Time Support "Dapper Drake") and I don't plan to upgrade until a new LTS release is out. Eve shows the start screen for a minute or so and then simply nothing else except a wine and a wineserver binary eating up all available CPU power. Other 3D games run fine though, tested with native linux ioQuake3+UrbanTerror and Tux Racer. Has anyone else tried running Eve on 6.06? Or has at least an idea what to make out of the Cedega debugging output? Can you get wine 0.9.46 running on Ubuntu 6.06? if so then you can get eve to run on it. There are a couple of dll's you'll have to get though. For the Linux client pull the .deb down and check the requirements(should be the following) python >= 2.4 python-gtk >= 2.6 gtk2 >= 2.6 wget dbus-1-python /bin/sh /bin/sh
tehmaz	Posted - 2007.11.07 10:10:00 - [270] Thanks guys, reactivated my account and is once again happily flying thru interstellar space. One thing tho'. Running the mac client on a 10.5 english system, danish keyboard layout, the keyboard layout in Eve is US, which is a bit of a nuisance seeing as some of the keys differ and I can't use danish signs. Anyone else have this quip out there ?

Azrael Larsa	Posted - 2007.11.07 10:11:00 - [271] Thanks Casqade, that's cleared up most of it. It's still far from perfect on the graphics front but I'm sure these teething problems will be resolved soon!
Solbright altalt	Posted - 2007.11.07 10:33:00 - [272] Originally by: tehmaz ... the keyboard layout in Eve is US, which is a bit of a nuisance seeing as some of the keys differ and I can't use danish signs. Anyone else have this quip out there ? Normal issue for Cedega/Cider. Wine has this fixed.
Solbright altalt	Posted - 2007.11.07 10:36:00 - [273] Originally by: Crass Spektakel Too bad that my distribution isn't officially supported (Ubuntu 6.06 Long Time Support "Dapper Drake") and I don't plan to upgrade until a new LTS release is out. Eve shows the start screen for a minute or so and then simply nothing else except a wine and a wineserver binary eating up all available CPU power. Same behavior for SimplyMEPIS 6.5, which is based on Ubuntu 6.06 LTS.
tehmaz	Posted - 2007.11.07 11:12:00 - [274] Originally by: Solbright altalt Originally by: tehmaz ... the keyboard layout in Eve is US, which is a bit of a nuisance seeing as some of the keys differ and I can't use danish signs. Anyone else have this quip out there ? Normal issue for Cedega/Cider. Wine has this fixed. Dangnabbit, hoped it had been fixed and I was the culprit or rookie if you prefer. Thanks anyways, I'll just have to get used to it then...
Angalkar	Posted - 2007.11.07 11:40:00 - [275] Originally by: Juan Ker Originally by: WeeLB Is anyone else running Leopard on a MacBook? (I've seen Leopard on iMacs but I didn't notice a MacBook) The only remaining issue that I could possibly imagine would be that a case-sensitive HDD format somehow screws up the file. That is, everything is OK so long as it is inside the image file, but once it is copied to the HDD the introduction of case-sensitivity interferes with a configuration file somewhere inside the package. Any Mac users here have a case-sensitive format? My MacBook runs it perfectly. I will say I believe the case-sensitive FS is the root of your problem, as it's the root of quite a few problems. I can confirm this. The issue arises because the file "info.plist" inside an Application Package has to be called "Info.plist". If not, OS X does not recognize the Application (blaming it to be of the wrong architecture rather than a broken application package - which is irritating ;) ). Fixing this does not fix the problem though - the game starts, but crashes early because it can't find certain DLLs that are asked for in lower-case (although their "real names" are mixed-case). Trying to fix it all is futile. I fixed this problem by creating a disk image inside a file, formatting it with HFS+ (non-case-sensitive) and mounting it inside my Applications-folder. Works well. If anyone is interested in a step-by-step walkthrough, drop me a line. I would prefer this issue to be fixed, but for the time being - lets hack ;).
Solbright altalt	Posted - 2007.11.07 11:44:00 - [276] Originally by: Solbright altalt Originally by: Crass Spektakel Too bad that my distribution isn't officially supported (Ubuntu 6.06 Long Time Support "Dapper Drake") ... Same behavior for SimplyMEPIS 6.5, which is based on Ubuntu 6.06 LTS. Hmm, just noticed I might be out of luck with regard to the packaged Eve, Wine seems to work better than Cedega anyway.
AmitZ1983	Posted - 2007.11.07 14:05:00 - [277] Hello, i'm trying to get EVE client working on my Ubuntu 7.10 I've Inspiron 1520 notebook, with Nvidia GeForce 8400M GS card. I've dual-boot: Vista\Ubuntu on my notebook, trying to get this playing work on Ubuntu, so I'll not have to reboot to Vista anymore. surprisingly, I've managed to get around prefs.ini file located in my /home/user/.cedega/EVE Online/c_drive/Local Settings/Application Data/CCP/EVE/settings/ path and finally launch the game. but: i don't have any sound, the mouse cursor is messed up, and the game graphics are a bit messy too, not the nice textures as rendered on Vista client. the configuration utility found the Alsa only and did play the test, but if I try to change it in the game: enable sound in the menu, or try to change it in prefs.ini/audio field, the game is stuck. any advice about fixing the sound\mouse cursor\textures? here is my prefs.ini file: advancedDevice=1 audio=0 audiodriver=0 audiohwacc=0 audiooutputtype=6 buffersize=4096 clusterMode=LOCAL clusterName=(WHATEVER STANDS HERE) debug=0 decimal=. desktopHeight=900 desktopPrimary=0 desktopSetup=1 desktopWidth=1440 digit=, eulaagreed=-2108056439 eveampGain=0.4 evevoiceGain=0.9 host=0 inputhost=localhost languageID=EN languageID=EN lastRanVersion=3.23.41736 masterVolume=0.4 messagePeriod=200 movecapturedone=1 movesettingsdone=1 music=play network=1 networkAdvanced=1 newbie=0 port=26000 rebootReason= rebootTime=128297003221509321 saveBenchToFile=pickle:I00showintro=0 showintro=0 texelalign=0.0 uiGain=0.4 username=AmitZ1983 voiceenabled=1
Ravow Minmatar Ravow Empire	Posted - 2007.11.07 14:30:00 - [278] The two unsupported function in Trinity are supported? I read the changelog of Wine 0.9.39 and I see: kernel32: Implement IO completion functions on top of the NT IoCompletion ws2_32: Call the I/O completion routine as a user APC. ntdll: Stub and document IoCompletion APIs. kernel32: Implement IO completion functions on top of the NT IoCompletion API. So Wine 0.9.39+ seem to have IO Completion support with it. I also read some Async IO also in 0.9.39 but I don't know if this the same thing required for TRINITY. Wine have a better advance than the Wine fork (Cedega) , Start faster, Less buggy, more stable over the time and truly open source! I won't pay Cedega subscription anymore because all my games work with Wine, unlike Cedega :)
Karrak Sur Gallente The New Synergistic Collective	Posted - 2007.11.07 15:39:00 - [279] Edited by: Karrak Sur on 07/11/2007 15:42:25 Edited by: Karrak Sur on 07/11/2007 15:39:44 'Lo fellow podlings, er, podsters, er. hi. I'm pretty excited about a Linux client. My platform is Ubuntu Gutsy Gibbon (7.10) (Machine is here ). I pulled the .DEB and ran the install. Running the client shows the splash screen, then goes to a blank square, and the CPU is pegged. Screenshot of the wedged startup is here. I've seen some others mentioning this problem. Any ideas?
Shaou Minmatar Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.11.07 17:51:00 - [280] the only thing I am having trouble with in the Linux client is minimizing. When I try to alt-tab to get to firefox nothing happens. I also tried to switch workspaces but nothing. does anyone else have this issue? Other than that it runs fine for me. I'll be using the Wine version until I can figure out how to minimize the game. Thx CCP

Suki Kamir	Posted - 2007.11.07 23:23:00 - [281] Originally by: Sevarus James Originally by: Suki Kamir I just installed the Linux client on Ubuntu Gutsy, running Dual 6600GT NVidia Cards. Everything seems to be ok but I noticed the graphics in the fittings window are corrupted. Suki We've had that glitch for ages under regular cedega. it seems that the more memory constrained you are, the more likely that gfx glitch shows up. It doesn't affect fitting, but is a little bit pita making sure you drop modules in the right spots. 2GB DDR here so memory shouldn't be an issue really. I have noticed another couple of problems too. In the market history graph there is no information on either axis (no amount or date). Also, when I open the in game browser the game lags severely to around 2 fps. Suki
Solbright altalt	Posted - 2007.11.08 11:56:00 - [282] Originally by: Shaou the only thing I am having trouble with in the Linux client is minimizing. When I try to alt-tab to get to firefox nothing happens. I also tried to switch workspaces but nothing. does anyone else have this issue? Other than that it runs fine for me. I'll be using the Wine version until I can figure out how to minimize the game. Thx CCP Never run full-screen. Put Eve in a borderless full-size window and it looks just as good. I disable all desktop shortcuts for the Eve window and shrink the taskbar. And use the taskbar for controlling Eve's window.

CCP Casqade	Posted - 2007.11.08 15:26:00 - [283] Originally by: GM Retrofire We have created a new forum section where Windows, Macintosh and Linux users can post their problems and find solutions. The reason for this is so that it'll be easier to find solutions and post your problems to receive assistance. The new section is named "Client, Hardware and Software Issues and Resolutions" The Windows section is located here The Mac section is located here The Linux section is located here We will be moving posts into the appropriate categories over a period of time to ease the transition over to those new categories. I hope this will help us all with locating problems and assisting each other solving them. I have started moving posts over to the new threads, if your's is missing it'll be under the appropriate operating system Best regards Senior GM Retrofire EVE Online Customer Support. So please fill the forum with constuctive discussion about issues and workarounds for the different operating systems.

kingbridge	Posted - 2007.11.20 03:47:00 - [284] good
kingbridge	Posted - 2007.11.20 03:49:00 - [285] thank you
Troepman	Posted - 2007.11.30 11:54:00 - [286] Edited by: Troepman on 30/11/2007 11:54:53 Eve-online in linux with an ATI Radeon 9550 card works. (Guess also with other Ati cards) System: Debian testing Linux 2.6.22.5 Closed source ati drivers from 7th november 2007 ATI Radeon 9550 I just disabled NV_VAR and ARB_VBO in the cedega config and I can login and play. I do have some random crashes I cant explain yet, but ill post it as soon as i know how to solve it.


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