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Antheon
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Posted - 2008.03.13 03:54:00 -
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I am getting nearly unplayable FPS in areas where the game ran perfectly before the patch (newbie minmatar space). I have every video setting turned down as far as possible but it doesn't help.
I asked in corp chat, and there were a few others who were having the same issue.
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Tweakalvos
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Posted - 2008.03.13 04:19:00 -
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same wit me i was runnin at 20-30 frames in space and 60 in station now im runnin half that its 20-30 station and 10-12 in space. there anyway i could post my diag to show what i have
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Mak'lar H'en
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Posted - 2008.03.13 04:26:00 -
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Me too. Used to comfortably fly from 35 to 50 FPS in space now it is stuck at 13..15 no matter what graphic settings I use. I can't play more than a minute before I get seasick.
I re-installed EVE from scratch; no changes.
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Dapper Danny
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Posted - 2008.03.13 04:29:00 -
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Chalk me up with that problem too... ran decently smooth yesterday at 1680x1050 with my old geforce3 64 meg (for some reason EvE lets my card run that res while no other programme else will), but today after patching using the same rez (and even rez's far lower than that) the fps unplayable (id say in the 10-15 range, when before it was within the 30-40/50 fps range when just traveling around doing nothing to hectic).
This is with the classic client.
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Mak'lar H'en
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Posted - 2008.03.13 04:29:00 -
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hey found that thread just a few lines under this one. Seam to be normal for now.
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=724164
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CutterJohn
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Posted - 2008.03.13 04:29:00 -
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I had the same problem, but was able to fix it.
Go into graphic settings make sure you have stencil buffer and 24bit colour with 8bit alpha enabled. That put my framerates back to where they were (about triple what it was initially post patch)
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Quani
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Posted - 2008.03.13 04:32:00 -
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Same here my trinity client dropped about 20fps.
And my eve classic client on my other comp crashed to 9fps from about 45fps.
Pretty bad stuff.
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Dapper Danny
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Posted - 2008.03.13 04:33:00 -
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 Originally by: CutterJohn
I had the same problem, but was able to fix it.
Go into graphic settings make sure you have stencil buffer and 24bit colour with 8bit alpha enabled. That put my framerates back to where they were (about triple what it was initially post patch)
hmm ill give that try might work, since I was using the 24bit without the 8bit stencils
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Tweakalvos
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Posted - 2008.03.13 05:18:00 -
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yeah ive tried all the suggestions idk what is goin on but it needs to be fixed im on a geforce 4. i know its old but still should be runnin classic just fine. like it was on tuesday.
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Xlex
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Posted - 2008.03.13 05:41:00 -
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Same problem here. My new computer is fine.
My older computer, which was fine, is now crappy fps, barely playable.
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Aero Zolic
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Posted - 2008.03.13 07:32:00 -
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Exactly same problem here.
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Olleybear
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Posted - 2008.03.13 07:46:00 -
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Bump up post. Same problem here. My Frames per second dropped considerably after the patch. Its turtle slow at 10 - 12 frames per second out in space. I used to be able to run two clients at 1152 x 864 resolution without much trouble. Now I cant even run one client without the slow frame rate.
I am using an ATI All in Wonder 9800.
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Yali
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Posted - 2008.03.13 07:59:00 -
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I used to play using the 1152x864 res. Still want it back as 1024x768 is to small and the 12xx resolutions are to big for my screen. I'm also feeling its laggy even at the lowest resolutions and I cant find out how to set my HZ. Looks to me as its running on like 60 HZ, hurting my eyes.
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Evolutius
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Posted - 2008.03.13 08:13:00 -
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I'm having the same problem. I tried changing all of the settings to 24 bit with 8 bit stencils, and it increased my frame rate up to a whole 9fps from 7.5. Of course that could have happened since I was flying out of the station at full speed too. The weird thing about this is, it's only in certain solar systems. When I logged in in Deltole, I was getting an average framerate of 32 fps, but I noticed that the instead of smooth lines in the fps window, I was getting sawtoothed lines, like the frame rate was jumping up and down at a regular interval. I just figured it was lag due to the connection throttling and the number of people downloading the patch. After playing for a few hours, I have noticed that some systems I go into, my frame rate drops to between 5 and 15 fps. The only time I've ever gone under 20 fps pre-patch is when I was in an area where there were hundreds of wrecks, which is entirely understandable.
I'm running the classic client, with a geforce fx 5200 with 256 mb of ram @ 1600x1050 resolution (which ran fine tuesday). I also just started playing this game and was billed for my first month yesterday. And yes, I have tried adjusting resolutions, turning all of my settings on my graphics card down for performance, turning off all unneccessary programs running in the background, setting the priority of the program to "high" in task manager, and generally messing with every setting available to try and increase performance, all to NO AVAIL. 
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Wolf Koch
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Posted - 2008.03.13 08:13:00 -
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Originally by: Yali
I used to play using the 1152x864 res. Still want it back as 1024x768 is to small and the 12xx resolutions are to big for my screen. I'm also feeling its laggy even at the lowest resolutions and I cant find out how to set my HZ. Looks to me as its running on like 60 HZ, hurting my eyes.
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RaTTuS
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Posted - 2008.03.13 09:13:00 -
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in windows set the display mode to 1024x768 , then set the refresh rate for that mode [it defaults to 60hz],
then set the video mode back to what you want.
when eve switches to that mode it will use the refresh rate you have set - this is a windows problem that has been around since DX8 [or eailer]
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Tivy
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Posted - 2008.03.13 09:51:00 -
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How can they **** up the graphics like this they only fixed a couple of unfinished models.
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Bumkin
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Posted - 2008.03.13 12:56:00 -
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same issue here. im getting an atonishing 5 fps consistently doing NOTHING in space.
i dont have the option to change the hertz amount when going to window mode. and turning on the 24 bit buffer with the stencil boosted me maybe .1 fps
im using an old geforce 3 so i dont have a lot of power to start with, but i could still get 10 fps in a fleet fight
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Murath Kalth
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Posted - 2008.03.13 13:20:00 -
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In space i'm Down to a Blistering Ave of 5.5 FPS :(
In station everything is fine :)
Oh well it IS the 13th 
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Sonya Rayner
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Posted - 2008.03.13 13:22:00 -
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Yeah, looks like yet another fps drop after patch. I used to have 70ish in space after RMR, and now i get only 20ish with in space, with no new graphics candies added. Where the F our fps have gone???
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Hugh Hefner
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Posted - 2008.03.13 13:26:00 -
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Originally by: Yali
I used to play using the 1152x864 res. Still want it back as 1024x768 is to small and the 12xx resolutions are to big for my screen. I'm also feeling its laggy even at the lowest resolutions and I cant find out how to set my HZ. Looks to me as its running on like 60 HZ, hurting my eyes.
Tell me about it, it has wrecked my whole display.
You can run it in windowed mode but then fps takes a huge hit and its close to impossible to run double clients.
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Meremoth
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Posted - 2008.03.13 13:38:00 -
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Guys i know i shouldnt have to say this but post your DX info and Graphics cards perhaps ccp will take note and do something.
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agent apple
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Posted - 2008.03.13 13:48:00 -
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Not like it wasn't expected that something would be borked but yah FPS is non existent for most people i'm speaking too including myself aswell.
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Meremoth
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Posted - 2008.03.13 14:01:00 -
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heres something i have been wondering about, Players who have bad fps in game, in low sec fps drops to 11fps or thereabouts for most folk i have spoken to.. in 0.0 it drops to a pathetic 5fps and in empire it drops to around 15-20. and in station it sits around 40+ could this be a Network timer data call issue?as more things that need to load into enviroment are responding with a higher fps..or is this just speculation?
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Tweakalvos
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Posted - 2008.03.13 14:11:00 -
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Time of this report: 3/12/2008, 23:14:02
Machine name: S0029618530
Operating System: Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_gdr.070227-2254)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Gateway
System Model: E-4000
BIOS: BIOS Date: 10/16/02 08:39:45 Ver: 08.00.05
Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz
Memory: 510MB RAM
Page File: 458MB used, 866MB available
Windows Dir: C:\WINNT
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.2180 32bit Unicode
hers my comp yo so if they cant fix it im bout to not pay them sry to say but its frustrating
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Meremoth
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Posted - 2008.03.13 14:24:00 -
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dxdiag reports tend to be about 3 posts long.so you may need to post the entire info... if your concerned about security then blank anything that may be relevent to your computer name, directory names etc. however i have also seen that a player who is getting low Fps is recieving an insane amount of blocked calls from the server network wise..can anyone confirm this?
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CCP Oneiromancer
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Posted - 2008.03.13 14:39:00 -
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Please submit bug reports with your DXDiag files and eventually Logserver files if you have them. As we are unable to reproduce this internally in a consistent manner, we need to isolate the possible hardware/software causes that might be related to this issue.
The bug reporting page is HERE. Instructions on how to save DXDiag files and on how to use Logserver are HERE.
Thank you.
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Kalmanaka
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Posted - 2008.03.13 14:41:00 -
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I get the best FPS when I set the windows desktop to 16bit, and both Eve graphics settings to all 16bit. Looks like crap but it's the only way I can run 3 clients on a geforce 6200 now.
Surprisingly setting the desktop to 16bit doubled my FPS.
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Sonya Rayner
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Posted - 2008.03.13 15:29:00 -
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Edited by: Sonya Rayner on 13/03/2008 15:35:14
Submitted bug report, and back to tinkering with client settings...
edit:
Originally by: Kalmanaka
I get the best FPS when I set the windows desktop to 16bit, and both Eve graphics settings to all 16bit. Looks like crap but it's the only way I can run 3 clients on a geforce 6200 now.
Surprisingly setting the desktop to 16bit doubled my FPS.
didn't help me, running with 24+8bit color and desktop @ 32bit yelds me a blistering 0.5-1 fps more than 16bit/16bit...
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Bumkin
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Posted - 2008.03.13 15:45:00 -
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bug report sent, hope you find a fix.
watching my network moniter in-game, i was a see 91 blocked calls when i was just sitting in space. that is a server side issue of calls not making it to my client from the server correct?
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WTFF
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Posted - 2008.03.13 17:56:00 -
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Hmmm looks like im not the only one having this problem. Hope it gets fixed soon. 
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Katni Entaria
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Posted - 2008.03.13 18:00:00 -
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Yeah i got the same issue. And submitted an bugreport together with the DxDiag file
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Teraos
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Posted - 2008.03.13 18:06:00 -
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I've got the same problem.
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Dreadmuppet Four
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Posted - 2008.03.13 18:21:00 -
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ditto, was getting about 20->30FPS in space, now 7 or so. Guess I wait for a bit see if it clears but unusable at the mo ;-(
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Antheon
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Posted - 2008.03.13 18:25:00 -
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Originally by: Dreadmuppet Four
ditto, was getting about 20->30FPS in space, now 7 or so. Guess I wait for a bit see if it clears but unusable at the mo ;-(
We must have similar systems, because that's exactly what I was/am getting
I submitted a bug report as well
Oddly enough, when I flew to the Rens system from the Isendeldik system, it seemed to improved a lot, not sure why.
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Bayerman
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Posted - 2008.03.13 18:40:00 -
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Edited by: Bayerman on 13/03/2008 18:40:31
Same Problem
I¦d been fine running EVE on my old PC with a 6200 and got around 45 fps. - acceptable for me.
Now I¦m down to 7,5 fps !!!
There¦s no way flying Missions anymore.
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zu3st
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Posted - 2008.03.13 19:32:00 -
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Edited by: zu3st on 13/03/2008 19:32:10
same problem here 
bug report sent
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CampyloBacter
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Posted - 2008.03.13 19:43:00 -
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FPS totally borked post-'boost' patch. Now unplayable on my perfectly functional machine pre-'boost' patch.
Deeply disappointing.
Bug report submitted
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Paulus Aurelius
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Posted - 2008.03.13 19:44:00 -
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Me has this problem too (also Geforce 4 classical client). I'm sending a bug report now.
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2008.03.13 19:47:00 -
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gforce 5200 256mb
512 ram
3.2g p4 proc
using old client with minimal settings ive noticed an fps drop, altho not critical.
using two such clients however there's a drop from 50+ to fewer then 5 fps on either account, continously. can't dock as I'm way out there somewhere, so this is in space.
cba making more bugreports to you guys, as nothign ever gets done with them anyway.
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Antheon
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Posted - 2008.03.13 21:36:00 -
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I just subbed for my first month last tuesday, hope this gets fixed soon :(
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Teinyhr
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Posted - 2008.03.13 21:43:00 -
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I wish to confirm this - my fps is pretty saddening 7-10 most of the time, but I've noticed that it changes in systems. Aufay has healthier 20-30fps, but Balle on the other hand gives me the boot with before mentioned sub-par readings.
I wonder if this is somekind of weird Cache issue.
Anyway, I hope this get fixed somehow other way than for me buying a new computer..
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Aero Zolic
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Posted - 2008.03.13 21:51:00 -
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Originally by: Teinyhr
I wish to confirm this - my fps is pretty saddening 7-10 most of the time, but I've noticed that it changes in systems. Aufay has healthier 20-30fps, but Balle on the other hand gives me the boot with before mentioned sub-par readings.
I wonder if this is somekind of weird Cache issue.
Anyway, I hope this get fixed somehow other way than for me buying a new computer..
Same here. In one system the FPS is about 20-30. In the other it's around 10. Also in the system where it's 20-30 I'm not alone. In system where it's 10 I'm completely alone. That's just odd. Some CCP server or connection problem.
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HT McScabbard
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Posted - 2008.03.13 21:59:00 -
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Experiencing huge FPS drop in stations, in space everything seems just fine.
Also: prepatch my GeForce 6800GT (already a hot tempered graphics card) ran at 90C, postpatch EVE manages to crank it up to 122C (!!!). I've matched all the settings to where they were prepatch, no difference.
Hope this gets fixed before my geforce burns a hole through the floor :P
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Ghost Krook
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Posted - 2008.03.13 22:06:00 -
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Same issue with my system, I ran the log server and get like 10 to 15 post a second with this error
542652008.03.13 22:02:47:18810270 : [Unknown] in in unknown source: HRES:D3DERR_INVALIDCALL(Invalid call)
542662008.03.13 22:02:47:188couldn't draw sprite
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Mirichan
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Posted - 2008.03.13 22:53:00 -
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i have this prob too since 1.1 patch. cpu is at 3% but the game nearly shows me 1-3 fps. its not playable at the moment (Classic Client)
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Sixtyniner
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Posted - 2008.03.13 23:09:00 -
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Same here too! Before the patch I had no problem at all, but now it has dropped to 7-ish FPS instead of my usaul 30-ish. Something¦s terribly wrong here with this patch. I have found out that the FPS drops about 3 minutes after restarting the client. I tried that few times, everytjhing was just fine then BAM; down to like 7 FPS after a few minutes. It¦s almost unplayable at the moment 
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Ark Tyriel
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Posted - 2008.03.13 23:30:00 -
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yea im getting the same prob...i hope they can fix this
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bozwold
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Posted - 2008.03.13 23:46:00 -
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Yeah same here down to 10 FPS or less
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Evolutius
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Posted - 2008.03.13 23:56:00 -
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/bump
Reinstalled everything including windows xp pro, the eve client, all current drivers, nice and fresh. And the patch works just as horrible as it did from the moment I installed it. Please address this issue, and let us know that you are working on it. FPS inside of the station is actually not bad at all, but outside, it's a nightmare.
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Tweakalvos
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Posted - 2008.03.14 00:07:00 -
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i mean i was flyin in empire i normally dont im null space kid. and was gettin 5 fps. and even in 0.0. i was gettin 12fps my corp said it was a server thing or sometin which i dont believe. its never been this bad before.i mean i love this game but if its not even play able then why am i payin money i normally do not have had a ccp problem like most folks but this is my first and hopefully the last so if this can be fixed soon it would be much appriciated.
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ajduB
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Posted - 2008.03.14 00:50:00 -
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Originally by: Dreadmuppet Four
ditto, was getting about 20->30FPS in space, now 7 or so. Guess I wait for a bit see if it clears but unusable at the mo ;-(
Same here, i hope its fixable, i kinda enjoy this game!
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Liu Lijuan
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Posted - 2008.03.14 01:16:00 -
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same here.....fps very low in station and in space compared to what i was getting before patch |
Quani
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Posted - 2008.03.14 01:33:00 -
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Why is CCP bothering to fix a few missions when they have people who can't even play the game anymore due to FPS issues.
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Evolutius
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Posted - 2008.03.14 02:10:00 -
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Originally by: Quani
Why is CCP bothering to fix a few missions when they have people who can't even play the game anymore due to FPS issues.
I was wondering the same thing. My first month's subscription was paid on Tuesday, 2 days later, the game is hardly playable, and there is no response from CCP other than my bug report saying that the bug was attached to a defect. Well, that's pretty obvious. Some information regarding this issue would be much appreciated.
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Antheon
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Posted - 2008.03.14 05:15:00 -
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Edited by: Antheon on 14/03/2008 05:15:21
Here's to hoping the daily downtime fixes it 
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RemusVI
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Posted - 2008.03.14 05:54:00 -
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same here 1gb ram + geforce 6600 now i am shot down to low fps after the new patch hopea fix comes asap to make the classic version run fine
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Shawanda Jackson
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Posted - 2008.03.14 06:06:00 -
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/signed
about 1/3 the FPS post-Boost
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Procurer Fennika
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Posted - 2008.03.14 06:57:00 -
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Same thing. Classic client. From 100 in station dropped to 30. From 50 on missions dropped to 15-20.
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Rowdy Roddy
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Posted - 2008.03.14 07:06:00 -
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same here, very low fps, unplayable .. was fine before the patch
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Mister Bones
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Posted - 2008.03.14 07:18:00 -
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Same problem here too - pretty much unplayabale. Good to know its not a driver issue. I'm running a fx5500.
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Dapper Danny
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Posted - 2008.03.14 07:23:00 -
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Hmmm wow, 19 fps inside a station with the station environments turned off. Was worse than I originaly thought.
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Sonya Rayner
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Posted - 2008.03.14 07:33:00 -
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Well, in my bugreport it says "attached to a known defect", wonder what it means, perhaps they're already on it?
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Dreadmuppet Four
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Posted - 2008.03.14 07:53:00 -
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hope so, a fix at dt would be nice ;-)
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Morux
KV27
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Posted - 2008.03.14 08:01:00 -
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Same issue... can't get more than about 7 fps - really poor frame rates after the patch. Have tried every setting available to try and fix it - the gfx settings seem to affect the in-station fps but not the in-space fps. in-station i can get up to 40fps... looking at nothing but the skybox in space i get about 6-7
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R A G E
Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.03.14 08:06:00 -
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Ive been around eve for 6 weeks, took me that long to tweak my system to run the client well. hhhmmm, then a boost? my eye. Unplayable now. Been sitting here trying to tweak a 1 year old decent system for 3 hours. And why in 0.0 am i getting 6 fps with no one in system and in orsulaert im getting 15 fps with 300 people in system?.Also , trying to find tweaks in forums, why at the top of forums is there outdated info from 3-4 years ago? cant somebody archive the garbage?
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Quani
Trill Crabulas
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Posted - 2008.03.14 09:02:00 -
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Is this problem going to be recognized or just ignored by CCP?
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Cardassius
Seraphin Technologies
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2008.03.14 09:22:00 -
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This is a bug related to the overview.
Press the new buttons: ALT-Z (removes bugged brackets) to get your fps back :)
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Morux
KV27
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Posted - 2008.03.14 09:46:00 -
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Not sure what the bracketing is for, but tried all different settings for it and couldn't get it to resolve... still no fps difference |
Cardassius
Seraphin Technologies
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2008.03.14 09:57:00 -
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Originally by: Morux
Not sure what the bracketing is for, but tried all different settings for it and couldn't get it to resolve... still no fps difference
Did you press ALT-Z, warp out and warp back in?
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3mey
ReD eYe Inc.
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.03.14 10:19:00 -
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alt+z or setting different options = 0 effect on my fps :(
bugreport sent ... i hope we get the fix quickly
now i have 15-20 , but before patch it was about 40-50 on my gf6600
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Morux
KV27
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Posted - 2008.03.14 10:41:00 -
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Yeah... tried all different ways (added/deleted tabs,warped, etc). I'm stumped on this one- can't seem to fix fps from this end. Hopefully there'll be a fix for this one soon. Feels like i'm trying to run eve on my old 200MMX lol. |
jaynee
MTC training corp
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Posted - 2008.03.14 10:44:00 -
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i'm gettting crazy slow fps now use to run 4 accounts on 1 machine with fps of acound 30-50 average on them all now i'm struggling to run 2 accounts.
also when i'm just running 1 account i'm getting all kindas of weird and wonderful graphical errors with txt suddenly appearing at 45 degree angles over screen and light effects cutting through it all.
of course with running so many accounts i normally have all settings turned to as low as possible.
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Tchell Dahhn
Deny Reality
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Posted - 2008.03.14 14:46:00 -
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I'm using a work laptop (IBM T43) with Intel video, so I've only ever been able to run the Classic Content.
I find it interesting to see that, when I'm in the dock, I have no loss to my FPS whatsoever. When I'm in space, however, especially when I'm warping, it's like I'm watching a flip-book it's so choppy.
I've sent my Bug Report, and have included my full DXDiag Report, and I recommend everybody do the same. Make sure you run through every tab, and run every test, so that CCP has the most information possible with which to fix this issue.
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Apocalypse Dawn
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2008.03.14 15:19:00 -
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Once again, CCP patch ****** up what was working fine. 24 hours downtime to a bugged patch.. meh
tbh, since i started playing, every patch has became the game worst, and worst, and worst. very sad. i wish i didnt have bought a ******* 90 days gtc =/
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Zorgar
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.03.14 15:22:00 -
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Originally by: Tchell Dahhn
I'm using a work laptop (IBM T43) with Intel video, so I've only ever been able to run the Classic Content.
I find it interesting to see that, when I'm in the dock, I have no loss to my FPS whatsoever. When I'm in space, however, especially when I'm warping, it's like I'm watching a flip-book it's so choppy.
I've sent my Bug Report, and have included my full DXDiag Report, and I recommend everybody do the same. Make sure you run through every tab, and run every test, so that CCP has the most information possible with which to fix this issue.
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have you checked "load station enviroment"?
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Tweakalvos
KNIGHTS OF RYCHE
Brotherhood Of Steel
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Posted - 2008.03.14 15:35:00 -
[77]
Edited by: Tweakalvos on 14/03/2008 15:35:57
ok classic is unplayable i ran through the alt z thing dont work its like watchen a chug fest. the only place i got regular frame rate was in new caldari. i mean out of20 systems or more only one has regular frame rate. they even put it down for quick fixes dont eve fix out stuff we have been complainin about cause we cant run classic. get it right. its so slow its unplayable. i mean how do rectifyin maken new player mishs and not fix what the frame rate bug. i mean some people dont ahve the money to buy new comps and run premium and some are runnin 6800 cards and still tanks to 7fps. fix the darn bug.
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Cythrawl
Central Defiance
Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.03.14 15:55:00 -
[78]
I'm eating the FPS problem as well. So far, I've lagged in every system I've gone into. My character here is sitting in high sec currently while my alt is at a pos in 0.0. The only time I've not lagged was when my alt left the system he was in into another. I thought maybe because I screwed with my graphics that it might have been the reason for the changes so I jumped back into the previous system and the FPS went directly into the toilet again.
My idea: Bring back the star. The star clearly was the only thing holding the system together...
When you wish upon a star... Maybe eve will be playable...
.:.
Originally by: Krazy Bitsch
Originally by: Virtuality
In before the first troll.
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Sporolichimisu
State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.03.14 16:07:00 -
[79]
Edited by: Sporolichimisu on 14/03/2008 16:08:11
chug chug chug lurch chug chug chug lurch...
Post boost visual representation of frame rate /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
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Tchell Dahhn
Deny Reality
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Posted - 2008.03.14 17:15:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Zorgar
have you checked "load station enviroment"?
Yes I have. This setting hasn't changed, and I'm still getting nice FPS while docked, which turns to sludge when undocked.
Since I changed the Cache setting from "normal" back to "low", as it seems was modified after the 1.1 Boost Patch, all of my settings are now as they were previously - before the 1.1 Boost Patch, when everything worked fine.
Still sludgy. Still a frame-fest. Still waiting on a fix.
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Tweakalvos
KNIGHTS OF RYCHE
Brotherhood Of Steel
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Posted - 2008.03.14 18:52:00 -
[81]
make sure in the post to tell what version your running. so its not just one big my fps sux thing. or send debug report.
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Evolutius
ESI Corporation
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Posted - 2008.03.14 19:55:00 -
[82]
Yep, still waiting.
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Rod Blaine
Evolution
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.03.14 20:51:00 -
[83]
Unresolved.
Singel account still runs at much lower fps since patch, dual is unplayable.
Yes yes old pc and ****, but i dont see how this patch added anythign worth screwing me over for tbh.
in teh mean while, put my accounts off automatic renewal for a bit. Gives em 5 days till they start going offline.
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Luana Silence
Bloody Rain
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Posted - 2008.03.14 21:25:00 -
[84]
same issue here, 12-13 fps, 30~ before
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Antheon
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.03.14 21:48:00 -
[85]
Edited by: Antheon on 14/03/2008 21:54:49
I just flew into the Eystur system from the Lustrevik system. The FPS seemed to be back to normal in this system for some reason. I docked and loaded 2 new blasters I bought off the market and undocked, and the FPS went to **** again.
I minimized and came back a minute later, maximized and the FPS is back to an acceptable level.
Not sure if this will help or not.
edit: I jump to Pator and the FPS is still at a good level, but the moment I reach the Ammold system it turns to **** again
I'm no programmer, but it seems that there is a legitimate problem here, it's not just a general FPS loss
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Malaan Tabfassh
The Flowing Penguins
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Posted - 2008.03.14 22:00:00 -
[86]
Not reading all posts, sorry if it has been posted before.
Have this problem too and it seems to be related to picture rendering from noob players. When clicking one I only get the "!", after some time has past in the same system there is suddenly a huge drop in the fps and then the picture gets rendered. Maybe this helps.
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Duvida
The Phalanx Expeditionary Conglomerate
Blue Sky Consortium
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Posted - 2008.03.14 22:04:00 -
[87]
I'll add my voice to the low FPS victims. Except in certain systems, where the FPS regains its former rate. Some systems have a low FPS, some are fine.
(*keeps his comments to the topic, hoping for a fix that addresses this issue with no new side issues*)
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agent apple
Spartan Industries
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.03.14 22:48:00 -
[88]
Also noticing that a few systems seem to run fine and back at old speeds while the vast majority run at 10 fps.
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Pearljammer 5657
Legacy State
The Ascendent Dominion
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Posted - 2008.03.15 00:20:00 -
[89]
Im running a geforce 7600 geforce with windows Xp on a Sony Viao. I used to get 180 fps in station and 60 to 80 fps in space. Now it has dropped to 60 in station and 40 in space. Whats up, CCP. Any possible suggestions.
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Mirichan
Royal Amarr Institute
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Posted - 2008.03.15 00:50:00 -
[90]
why doesn't anyone from ccpr answer to this problem, why is there no response at the news.
Is no one willing to solve this problem????
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Evolutius
ESI Corporation
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Posted - 2008.03.15 01:30:00 -
[91]
Originally by: Mirichan
why doesn't anyone from ccpr answer to this problem, why is there no response at the news.
Is no one willing to solve this problem????
I don't know, but this thread has managed to steadily grow, while the lack of information regarding what CCP is doing about it amounts to zero. If this were a free to play game, I'd expect this. However this is not a free to play game, and CCP or one of its representatives should show a bit of consideration to its paying customers regarding this and all of the other issues that have arisen from patch deployment. I'm not asking for an ETA (although it would be nice to know, subjectively speaking), but just a simple acknowledgement of the issue at hand, and confimation that it will or will not be addressed in the near future. Show us a little consideration please.
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ultra 1437
Infinate Serenity
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Posted - 2008.03.15 02:02:00 -
[92]
I've sent a bug report, and also petitioned ingame (did that a few days ago)
i'm running a Geforce FX-5500 with AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4000+, MMX, 3DNow (2 CPUs), ~2.1GHz
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Tchell Dahhn
Deny Reality
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Posted - 2008.03.15 04:49:00 -
[93]
Just my own update - I played tonight, and it seems very much better for me. I haven't made any changes to my settings, cleared no cache, etc., and yet, it seems better.
Back-end database issues, perhaps? Maybe everybody was dl'ing the patch from the same cluster as the gameplay was occurring on?
I don't know, but while I wouldn't say it's fixed for everybody, it seems significantly better for me.
Anyone else notice an improvement?
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Morux
KV27
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Posted - 2008.03.15 05:25:00 -
[94]
Well, something has changed somewhere - am getting about 12fps, nearly double from this morning (kinda low, but still better than it was). Noticed a 500k bulk file come in from first login after dt, wonder if a hotfix was deployed today... But at least it is better  |
Antheon
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.03.15 05:47:00 -
[95]
No improvement here
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Tweakalvos
KNIGHTS OF RYCHE
Brotherhood Of Steel
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Posted - 2008.03.15 06:04:00 -
[96]
still no change just a little better in station. the outside is still horrindus so idk not much for rushin peeps but it would be nice if it was tuesday again! no patch and better fps.
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Sporolichimisu
State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.03.15 08:49:00 -
[97]
No improvement for me either. Is everyone sending Dxdiag and logfiles in with their bug reports?
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RemusVI
Legion Federation
Black Star Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.15 08:54:00 -
[98]
well the hotfix dint do any change i see the problem is with the client itself than the server as its a performance issue ...we need a new fix patch for the client atm i cant FC ...trhe onyl thing i can do decently is rat or mine 
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RemusVI
Legion Federation
Black Star Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.15 09:17:00 -
[99]
Well ok just foudn out that my nvidia driver were 162 version downloaded the 169 version now its running more smoothly now but still a little performance issue is still tehre , otehrs cud try adn update their drivers might work out for some people
LEGION FEDERATION
"We beleive in Vigilence ,Federalism and Freedom"
President Of The Council and Fleet Admiral:
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Morux
KV27
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Posted - 2008.03.15 10:29:00 -
[100]
ok, i take it back. only a couple of the systems have improved - went to several others and still getting bad fps. best i could get was 5 fps in Cistuvaert :( |
Miyamoto Uroki
PURE Legion
Pure.
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Posted - 2008.03.15 12:45:00 -
[101]
Originally by: CCP Oneiromancer
Please submit bug reports with your DXDiag files and eventually Logserver files if you have them. As we are unable to reproduce this internally in a consistent manner, we need to isolate the possible hardware/software causes that might be related to this issue.
The bug reporting page is HERE. Instructions on how to save DXDiag files and on how to use Logserver are HERE.
Thank you.
Submitted bug report. But why the hell isn't it possible to attach more than one file? I am asked for log file and dxdiag file? no problem. But can't submit both with one bug report? bah.. fix that plz
Originally by: Puupuu
dude... your face
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ClaudiusOptimus
State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.03.15 13:33:00 -
[102]
Some systems (Nonni & New Caldari) seem to work ok for me, but rest still have extreme low fps
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Maxim K
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.03.15 13:59:00 -
[103]
Peculiar, how the majority of posters fail to mention whether they run Premium or Classic content. I get 12-15 fps with Classic (about 25 before the patch), but 25-30 with Premium (15-20 pre-patch). Windowed vs. full-screen client also might make a difference.
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ClaudiusOptimus
State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.03.15 14:55:00 -
[104]
Originally by: Maxim K
Peculiar, how the majority of posters fail to mention whether they run Premium or Classic content. I get 12-15 fps with Classic (about 25 before the patch), but 25-30 with Premium (15-20 pre-patch). Windowed vs. full-screen client also might make a difference.
True. I run the classic client and have about the same fps as you (25-30 prepatch, 9-12 postpatch) running the classic client in Full-screen.
I might try it windowed, but is windowed mode generally more or less fps?
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john120
In White Suits
Elite Trade Group
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Posted - 2008.03.15 16:01:00 -
[105]
i had the same problem, i solved it by downloading the latest grapics card drivers (for my Geforce FX 5700LE)
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Miyamoto Uroki
PURE Legion
Pure.
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Posted - 2008.03.15 16:09:00 -
[106]
Some suggestions:
- It seems a lot of the peeps with problems have a Geforce 5 FX series (I do)
- almost all players are running the classic client?
- upgrading to latest graphics drivers didn't help for me
- changing from window mode to fullscreen mode didn't help for me
- most important thing for me here: It doesn't occur in all systems. Some systems I have still the old, way better fps of around 30, and as I jump into next system drop down to 10.
Originally by: Puupuu
dude... your face
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Liu Lijuan
Carbon Based Construction
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Posted - 2008.03.15 16:15:00 -
[107]
I'm running Classic client and getting 9 to 15 fps in space when i used to get 25 - 30fps before patch. In station i've seen a drop of 40 fps to 20.
All Gfx settings are set low with all effects turned off.
Laptop;
AMD Turion 64 x2 (1.9Ghz)
Mem 2Gb
Nvidia MCP67M
Windows Vista
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Teinyhr
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
Reavers.
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Posted - 2008.03.15 16:23:00 -
[108]
Originally by: Miyamoto Uroki
Some suggestions:
- It seems a lot of the peeps with problems have a Geforce 5 FX series (I do)
- almost all players are running the classic client?
- upgrading to latest graphics drivers didn't help for me
- changing from window mode to fullscreen mode didn't help for me
- most important thing for me here: It doesn't occur in all systems. Some systems I have still the old, way better fps of around 30, and as I jump into next system drop down to 10.
All coonfirmed on my part. I have a Geforce FX 5600 XT.
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Sonya Rayner
Unicorn Enterprise
Blind Octopus
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Posted - 2008.03.15 16:29:00 -
[109]
Edited by: Sonya Rayner on 15/03/2008 16:29:53
Originally by: Miyamoto Uroki
Originally by: CCP Oneiromancer
Please submit bug reports with your DXDiag files and eventually Logserver files if you have them. As we are unable to reproduce this internally in a consistent manner, we need to isolate the possible hardware/software causes that might be related to this issue.
The bug reporting page is HERE. Instructions on how to save DXDiag files and on how to use Logserver are HERE.
Thank you.
Submitted bug report. But why the hell isn't it possible to attach more than one file? I am asked for log file and dxdiag file? no problem. But can't submit both with one bug report? bah.. fix that plz
you can always ZIP or RAR multiple files, lol 
Originally by: Miyamoto Uroki
Some suggestions:
- It seems a lot of the peeps with problems have a Geforce 5 FX series (I do)
- almost all players are running the classic client?
- upgrading to latest graphics drivers didn't help for me
- changing from window mode to fullscreen mode didn't help for me
- most important thing for me here: It doesn't occur in all systems. Some systems I have still the old, way better fps of around 30, and as I jump into next system drop down to 10.
No, the geforce series is not guilty in this, i'm running ATI Radeon x1300pro and i get the same problem (not as heavy as for some of you, but stil noticeable).
And amongst of my friends, who also get this problem not everyone's running geForces, and none of those who does - 5xxx series. Strange, m?
Besides, yes, it looks like fps depends on a system, dunno why...
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Doc Fury
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2008.03.15 16:46:00 -
[110]
Edited by: Doc Fury on 15/03/2008 16:46:35
AMD 64x2 4400+
WIN XP PRO
Nvidia 7900GTX (latest drivers)
4GB RAM
12 FPS in space, running only one client in classic mode at 1280X1024 windowed.
CCP you can officially inform your marketing dept they can start advertising your game as: LAG Online.
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Racki Dumatre
Eve University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2008.03.15 17:04:00 -
[111]
I run Windows Vista...Eve Premium..as far as actual vid card etc...run of the mill, no special ones and 1gb RAM...I am at between 30 and 40 fps.
See you in my sights!
Cry "Havoc", and let slip the dogs of war! |
Tweakalvos
KNIGHTS OF RYCHE
Brotherhood Of Steel
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Posted - 2008.03.15 17:29:00 -
[112]
post bug reports like they said they dont really care about thread post it seems get them in so we can get this fixed
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Kryttos
Hard Corp
Brotherhood Of Steel
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Posted - 2008.03.15 19:59:00 -
[113]
I run a 6 series Geforce. and have this problem, was running Premkum, had to switch back to Classic to get playable frame rates. already bug reported and they said they are aware of the problem and working to fix it. ( aka, we havent a clue )
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Pac SubCom
A.W.M
Soul of Fountain
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Posted - 2008.03.15 20:42:00 -
[114]
Edited by: Pac SubCom on 15/03/2008 20:42:59
Same problem here, the patch brought a noticeable performance change for the worse. "Unplayable" is the ugly word, where it was playable before.
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Zimmerious
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.03.15 20:43:00 -
[115]
I'm also on this band wagon of 8 fps in space 
On to the bug reporting I suppose...
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Number65259
THC Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.03.15 20:53:00 -
[116]
Two GeForce 8800GTX's in SLI here. Getting 60+fps outside (VERY low compared to normal), EXCEPT for when I turn my camera in a certain direction, at which point the game lags for a split second and FPS drops to ~20-30. During certain missions with gas clouds it has dropped to the 10-15fps range depending on camera direction. Absolutely horrible for my config. |
Xanath Fireheart
Under Heavy Fire
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Posted - 2008.03.15 22:44:00 -
[117]
I'm suffering this problem on my other PC at the moment... 20fps or so down to a flat 8fps in my home system (it's like the fps meter has a limiter on it.. just a flat line across the screen).
Originally after a bit of exploring in higher sec systems, I thought that it might be something to do with the new can timer, but I found I had the same issue in some 0.8 systems, so that ruled cans out.
I did a bit more testing and found that it was generally better in systems above 0.8 sec status.
under 0.8 sec, it seems the larger the number of asteroid belts, the fewer fps I get.
So, that got me wondering if there was any correlation between the presence and quantity of belt rats in a particular system... yes, I'm clutching at straws, lol
/me goes and hangs out in lovely smooth running New Caldari...
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Najenna
Caldari Deep Space Ventures
Caldari Deep Space Industral
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Posted - 2008.03.15 23:24:00 -
[118]
I aswell am haveing the same issue I am in 0.0 in a constilation of 4 or 5 systems where there is no population and I am also getting anywhere from 5 to 8 F.P.S. and I am running
Nvidia GeForce FX 5500 256mb
Pentium 4 2.66Ghz processor
512 ram ( upgradeing to 2 gig next week )
Classic Client
Also I have the latest Nvidia driver 6.14.11.6921 dated 12/05/07
I have not filed a bug report cause I see alot of you have so am not going to waste C.C.P.'s time to look at another one. I am sure the issue will be resolved but till then I can't play and will let my sub end and train a 45 day skill till it is fixed.And then I will be more than happy to come back. No you can't have my stuff
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Olleybear
Red Dwarf Mining Corps
Rule of Three
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Posted - 2008.03.16 01:00:00 -
[119]
I sent in a DxDiag and a logserver file as a bugreport.
No change here on my end. Still classic client, 1152x864 windowed, sound turned off, ATI all in wonder 9800, 2 gigs ram, AMD 3700+.
Still running 1 client at a wonderfull 10 - 12 fps. Some systems( as in few ) see a whopping 24fps. Most are 10 - 12 or 14-16 fps.
In case anyone hasn't noticed, when you jump into another system and the overview hasn't loaded up yet, your fps goes through the roof. I'm talking 80 to 120fps. But when the overview loads, its back down to the lower FPS.
If there was a way we could turn off the overview, I'd be willing to bet we would see a massive fps increase.
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Magius Paulus
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
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Posted - 2008.03.16 01:09:00 -
[120]
Still having the problem. Some systems are slightly better (Nonni and Nannaras i believe), raising the fps from 8 to 20 or sometimes even 30 on classical client. I think that the difference between systems should be a good hint for the devs to work on, but then again i might just swapped thinking for hoping :)
Please do work on it though, even moving is very dangerous now and as i live in 0.0 full time, i can't play now.
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xavier01
University of Caille
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Posted - 2008.03.16 03:45:00 -
[121]
/bump problem continues for classic client, bug/dxdiag report sent. |
Bumkin
Game-Over
Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.03.16 04:35:00 -
[122]
@ CCP: can we at least get an update on what you have found? if you have found anything? IF you have any ideas on how to fix it?
give us a report on any progress please. i cant do anything in game cept sit in a station cause i have 5 fps everywhere else.
im not paying for that
just an update thats all i want
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Alan Peterson
mining-maniacs.uk
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Posted - 2008.03.16 05:43:00 -
[123]
They are still trying to figure it out. Not everyone has the problem. Only certain people. They said that they are having difficulty reproducing the issue.
The best you can do is submit the requested info and wait.
Im in the same boat with poor fps myself 6fps in space =(
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Olleybear
Red Dwarf Mining Corps
Rule of Three
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Posted - 2008.03.16 06:21:00 -
[124]
I disagree. I believe everyone in game IS experiencing the FPS drop. Its just there are those in game with very powerfull systems and the FPS drop isn't noticable to them.
To experiment, get your corpmates to press ctrl-f to show their frames per second. Then have your corpmates jump into a system that sends your fps plummeting and have them tell you if their is a difference.
I've had a few corpies do this for me and they experience a massive fps drop, just not enough to lag them out so they notice. For instance, a drop fro 60fps to 35 fps when they jump into a system that drops me down to 10 - 12 fps.
I still believe its the new overview causing this, but I cant verify other than seeing a massive fps increase jumping from one system to the next just before the overview loads the system. After loading the system, its back to the low fps.
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Alan Peterson
mining-maniacs.uk
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Posted - 2008.03.16 06:29:00 -
[125]
Ya that could be true. I never thought about that. If your a guy with a normal 100 fps and you goto 50 you probably wouldn't notice lol. Yet I am one of those fools who is doing good at 25-40 pre-boost =/
Finally all the graphics glitches got taken care of on Linux and I dont get the fps to enjoy it. Thats classic.
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Durao
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.03.16 07:29:00 -
[126]
Edited by: Durao on 16/03/2008 07:31:01
I run a classic client on an old laptop - had a much higher fps pre-patch.
I definitely sent a bug report with dxdiag and log info.
I hope everyone does this to resolve the problem. Don't just send in dxdiag - send them a log report so they can actually see what's happening.
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Leviathani Darkri
Fatalix Inc.
Phalanx Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.16 07:35:00 -
[127]
I'm getting the same FPS issues, also running a FX5500. I've notcied the same thing regarding different systems performing differently, but I've drawn a conclusion that larger systems (ie 60+ au warps between gates) draw much worse FPS than smaller systems.
Is something being done differently client side regarding system mapping orsomesuch?
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Newbear
Fission Industries
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Posted - 2008.03.16 07:47:00 -
[128]
I think ccp lowered frame rates to see who will report the problem. Its a conspiracy to weed out all of the bad customers they dident want anyways.
Click here for my High Security POS Service
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Rod Blaine
Evolution
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.03.16 08:20:00 -
[129]
Quote:
I still believe its the new overview causing this, but I cant verify other than seeing a massive fps increase jumping from one system to the next just before the overview loads the system. After loading the system, its back to the low fps.
This tbh.
I've noticed that the fps drop seems to be negated in every situation in which you do not have a loaded overview. When running single account the difference is noticeable, but when running two the difference is enormous. As soon as one character jumps out, is in warp, or logs out: immediate fps explosion on BOTH characters.
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Durao
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.03.16 11:20:00 -
[130]
After submitting a bug report with log file and dxdiag:
I got a reply from the bug hunting team stating that they are aware of the problem.
So, hopefully things will be back to normal soon. |
Vitara DahReh
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2008.03.16 13:18:00 -
[131]
have a c2d 6600@ 3.15ghz and a geforce 8800gtx ultra
premium client
before patch 200fps+ docked 100-180fps in space
patch 1.1 130fps docked ,100fps in space
i would not reckognize this if i not checking fps from time to time
get a bit better performance when reduced shadows to low
so something is eating fps (new content,game code ? )
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Xanath Fireheart
Under Heavy Fire
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Posted - 2008.03.16 13:28:00 -
[132]
I just did a quick test on both my PC's the results:
Alikara - New caldari
9 fps - 35 fps (classic client, 1.7 ghz P4, GF 5600 XT)
25 fps - 50 fps (premium client, 3.0 ghz P4, GF 6600)
So it does seem to effect both PCs, It's just not as noticable on the ones running at higher framerates.
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Niffetin
Omni Research
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Posted - 2008.03.16 16:57:00 -
[133]
Same for me, I used to get about 300 in stations (Premium) but now I only get like 130-150
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Dragonkat
Drake Fleet
The Acquisition
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Posted - 2008.03.16 17:41:00 -
[134]
/signed
And to make things even more enjoyable I can't even turn down my graphics settings to try and get an improvement, because every time i do and hit apply they revert right back to what they were.
Melting video cards
overview bugs out the wazoo
FPS in the toliet
great job CCP! they only thing you've boosted with this patch is the level of my city of heroes chracter, and my wallet when i cancel at the end of this pay period.
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Antheon
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.03.16 22:18:00 -
[135]
Originally by: Durao
Edited by: Durao on 16/03/2008 11:35:34
After submitting a bug report with log file and dxdiag:
I got a reply from the bug hunting team stating that they are aware of the problem.
So, hopefully things will be back to normal soon.
I hope so
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Alex Under
Eternity INC.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2008.03.17 00:34:00 -
[136]
I can run one account semi-ok, but there is a significant drop in Frame Rates. I can't run multiple clients anymore. Prior to the latest patch, I was able to run 4 clients easily on my pc with no lag or shortcomings on Frame Rates. Now if I launch a second account EVE just comes to a grinding halt. I can't click anywhere, frame rates are less then 5. white screens in space. I tried loading a 3rd client and I think my PC laughed at me as though it knew something I didn't...  because my eve clients froze up.
This is just crazy. They try to fix one thing and end up screwing something else up. And now everyone is having the problem, so it's no isolated.Why can't the QA team ever catch these things? We always get the same damn answer from CCP: "...we were not able to duplicate these errors on our end... please send us a copy of your DXDiag and your logs..."
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Magius Paulus
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
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Posted - 2008.03.17 07:27:00 -
[137]
The fact that some systems have less problems and showing the same # of fps as pre-patch (New Caldari, Odotte, Nonni etc.) gives me some hope the devs canduplicate this problem. They just have to see what the difference is between those systems and modify it till ther duplicated the problem (and then remove it).
Then again, i'm no IT guy so i probably think too simple about these things...
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bozwold
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.03.17 10:36:00 -
[138]
*bump* Still getting bad FPS.
Just to make sure we are not forgotten <3 CCP
boz
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Aero Zolic
DarkStar 1
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.17 13:42:00 -
[139]
I haven't been playing much after the patch and FPS problems, but I can say that things are ok in 1V-LI2 and FPS drops in Q-K2T7. So maybe check the difference between those systems - something's wrong there.
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Mannington Skank
Capitalism Amuck
The Second Genesis
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Posted - 2008.03.17 13:57:00 -
[140]
Just imagine what the next patch will be like?
/me shudders.
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Caliglia
The Independant Navy Association
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Posted - 2008.03.17 14:23:00 -
[141]
i started having the same problem only it started soon. when the new grafics came out i tryed it ran nicly but hade some problems over a longer time playing probaly a problem with with a memory leak any ways whent back to the old grafik system and it ran just as it use to untill the next patch. they fixed alot of stuff with the new but some how it totaly ****** my comp with the old i have ben getting worst every patch after that with a new fix for the new grafiks i think that manny of the things they do to fix the new are forced onto the old grafiks probaly getting the cpu to run shaders it dont have to with the old or something like that course all the old grafik cards dont have new shader chips. tho im lucky i found out that if i run the new grafiks wiht no shaders or any other smart stuff that i can play again. hope this might help some people ..
PS. dear EVE team u need to reastablish the old settings for the old grafiks meby force any grafik changes to take place befor running the game so u actualy end up with 2 engiens that run for the same game . love cali
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Nicho Void
Hyper-Nova
Tenth Legion
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Posted - 2008.03.17 14:26:00 -
[142]
I'm running the classic client.
In station I get 20FPS, in space 4.5FPS, at POS 1.4FPS. All effects turned off, everything as minimal as I can get it. Seems to be the same no matter where I am, but I haven't exactly signed up for long distance fleet ops since the problem started.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
We won't laugh at you... to your face...
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Praesus Lecti
Blueprint Haus
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.03.17 16:31:00 -
[143]
I'm not exactly sure why, but I got a significant FPS increase after the patch. Prior to the patch I was lucky to see 60FPS in an empty 0.0 system. Now? 95-100FPS in the same system filled with corpmates all in the same location (corp mining op) full effects, premium graphics, etc blah blah blah.
What I did do was uninstall EVE and make sure every file associated with EVE was gone. Performed a defrag on my games drive and reinstalled the patched client. All settings remained identical.
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agent apple
Spartan Industries
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.03.17 17:09:00 -
[144]
Still unplayable, still no word.
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Miyamoto Uroki
PURE Legion
Pure.
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Posted - 2008.03.17 19:52:00 -
[145]
Aye. Give us feedback, ccp. You always demand it from us, but you owe your paying customers also some love...
Originally by: Puupuu
dude... your face
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ZAFARAN
The Forsakened Companions
Pure.
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Posted - 2008.03.17 20:57:00 -
[146]
CCP sort it out and sort it out fast....
I dont have a flash top of the range pc but it ran quite happily prior to the patch with both characters able to operate in dual or seperate tasks without any issue and happily able to ALT TAB on full screen mode between the 2.
Now i can run 1 account only as soon as i open the 2nd account i either crash out or FPS drop to a average off around 5-6 FPS i cant even pan the camera angle round without it coughing and spluttering like a 60 a day smoker.
So whats the point now of having a extra account ...tbh none at all waste of cash and time .Everyone logs on to destress and chill out on a game that was fun .Now i log on and am wasting cash on aaccount that worked 100% fine prior to all this upgrade and only thing im sure of is that im 100% DISATISFIED.
Listen to the masses and do something about it at the end of the day all we get is fobbed of with a handfull of lame excuses that wore thin a couple years ago but instead of this being addressed and improving its going down the pan .So the sake off your paycheque (its us that pays it) and our sanity get a grip admit you messed up and give us some answers.Then fix them roll it back hotfix do whatever cos if it aint fixed ...and i dont think im speakin for just me not only my alt but my main are gonna logout for good .I dont want a automated response in fact i dont care if you dont respond to a single petition ...but sort it NOW .
Regards Zaf
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Saidor
The Littlest Hobos
Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.03.17 21:41:00 -
[147]
Edited by: Saidor on 17/03/2008 21:44:11
GF 7600 GT, my FPS is about 1/3 to 1/10 pre-1.1 deployment.
At a POS with alliance and no enemies/gridloading I am running 3-4 FPS. Game is near unplayable in all except benign environments now.
Whatever was done for Trinity 1.1 needs a serious looking at IMO.
(this low FPS is regardless or bracket settings with nearly everything turned off - I see less stuff now than pre-1.1 and its far more laggy!)
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Mike Christiansen
Procrastinati
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Posted - 2008.03.17 21:47:00 -
[148]
I'm going to add to the "me too" post. I've noticed a few things since Trinity 1.1
1. General FPS decrease of about 1/2. Zooming close into a ship will drop me to single digit fps.
2. IN-STATION is nearly unplayable.
3. RAM usage is through the roof. Previously I had no problems having Eve, & Firefox open. Now just hitting the windows key to bring up the task bar causes a couple minutes of HD thrashing.
Pent M, 1GB ram, GeForce 6800 Go
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Removal Tool
Vogon Deconstruction Fleet
The OSS
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Posted - 2008.03.17 21:49:00 -
[149]
Hey CCP, I have 4 extremely ****ed-off cats and they are willing to travel....just sayin'. |
Bom Bolenath
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.03.17 22:52:00 -
[150]
Have you all unistalled eve and grabbed the new client? I run eve in vista 64 with an 8800gts 640, and I lost two-box functionality with Trinity 1.0 like a lot of people. It took reinstalling vista after a serious crash to get me to grab a new eve client, but that fixed multi-client performance for me.
I now have these problems again. Despite plenty of bandwidth, opening a second client (where I used to be able to open 3-4) causes FPS rates to drop to a miserable, unworkable level.
I'm off to reinstall eve, but regardless of my results, I recommend this to everyone as a basic guideline for assessing post-patch problems that appear to be system-specific.
Luck!
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phishstik
North Face Force
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Posted - 2008.03.17 23:10:00 -
[151]
Their trying to make me break down and buy a new video card.......... its working.
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Care Less
Knights of Chaos
Chaos Incarnate.
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Posted - 2008.03.17 23:16:00 -
[152]
Also getting drastically reduced framerates post patch.
Classic client.
Athlon 2400xp on xp pro32sp2 1.5gb mem.
geforce 5600 256mb card latest driver.
Used to get 30's in space, now 10's..and unplayable at POS's..
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Infinitynexus
Astrodynamic Innovations
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Posted - 2008.03.18 01:38:00 -
[153]
gf 8600 here.. same old, same old.. but only 1/2 fps loss for me though, still playable.
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Bom Bolenath
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.03.18 03:24:00 -
[154]
CONFIRMED:
For the drastic fps crash when multi-clienting i reported on the end of the last page, reinstalling eve with the new premium client installer solves my problems.
Hope all of you with serious fps issues post-patch have tried this. I know the problem I've had twice now with Trinity patches doesn't solve itself otherwise.
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Antheon
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.03.18 05:27:00 -
[155]
Originally by: Bom Bolenath
CONFIRMED:
For the drastic fps crash when multi-clienting i reported on the end of the last page, reinstalling eve with the new premium client installer solves my problems.
Hope all of you with serious fps issues post-patch have tried this. I know the problem I've had twice now with Trinity patches doesn't solve itself otherwise.
Didn't help me at all.
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Sporolichimisu
State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.03.18 06:42:00 -
[156]
Originally by: Antheon
Originally by: Bom Bolenath
CONFIRMED:
For the drastic fps crash when multi-clienting i reported on the end of the last page, reinstalling eve with the new premium client installer solves my problems.
Hope all of you with serious fps issues post-patch have tried this. I know the problem I've had twice now with Trinity patches doesn't solve itself otherwise.
Didn't help me at all.
Reformatting my hard drive and reinstalling Eve didn't make one bit of a difference. I noticed that in the Oueletta system, my fps went back to 42-50 fps for some strange reason (just like pre-patch in EVERY system). Jump one system over to Jufvitte, it's back to under 10 fps. Makes no sense whatsoever.
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Pac SubCom
A.W.M
Soul of Fountain
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Posted - 2008.03.18 10:29:00 -
[157]
I'm sure this issue will be resolved.
---------------
∞ TQFE
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LeCaz
The Independant Navy Association
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Posted - 2008.03.18 11:16:00 -
[158]
>CCP: Advertising the wingman program at this point is a bit silly don't you think?
/signed Any new user that hits any of the bugs and problems that are currently being experienced will be put off for life IMO. Even diehards are thinking twice atm. The 4-6 fps that I'm getting atm can not be described as fun and I wouldn't want to inflict this on an unsuspecting new player. Like it's not difficult enough!
CCP - Please fix this or roll back until you can.
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3mey
ReD eYe Inc.
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.03.18 11:30:00 -
[159]
arghh , when ccp solve that problem ?
i cant play the game about week ......
and there is no response from ccp except message about sending bugreports ....
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PsychoMessiah
afk for a poo
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Posted - 2008.03.18 13:23:00 -
[160]
This is full on bull **** on chips. With a side order of WTFNOOB?
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boshion
afk for a poo
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Posted - 2008.03.18 13:47:00 -
[161]
so when the **** are ccp fixing this?..do they even give a
**** its getting annoying when u have 2 accounts running and cant play on any one being 2006
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Zeppi
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.03.18 13:51:00 -
[162]
Well i have FPS drops in certain systems when looking at areas of High lag like outside stations even though im 50+au away it occurs when fighters are deployed from carriers.dont know if its related but all i can think of is its database calls to and from my client telling which areas of space are populated with stuff..dont know the techy geek code for the explanation.anyway system specs are pretty dire.
P 4 dual Core 3.2Ghz O/c to 4.0 Ghz Geforce 6 Overclocked card (self done) 533mhz 512mb heatsink is bigger than the one on my cpu :P
Memory is 2.1gb also o/c
p.s. ive tried running with Factory presets and a lil Geforce 5600 card it doesnt make a difference in these situations.
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Keela Star
State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.03.18 14:52:00 -
[163]
Originally by: Alex Under
I can run one account semi-ok, but there is a significant drop in Frame Rates. I can't run multiple clients anymore. Prior to the latest patch, I was able to run 4 clients easily on my pc with no lag or shortcomings on Frame Rates. Now if I launch a second account EVE just comes to a grinding halt. I can't click anywhere, frame rates are less then 5. white screens in space. I tried loading a 3rd client and I think my PC laughed at me as though it knew something I didn't... because my eve clients froze up.
This is just crazy. They try to fix one thing and end up screwing something else up. And now everyone is having the problem, so it's no isolated.Why can't the QA team ever catch these things? We always get the same damn answer from CCP: "...we were not able to duplicate these errors on our end... please send us a copy of your DXDiag and your logs..."
I've had the same problem with a white screen and a drop in fps, both on a 3'rd account and sometimes on 2 accounts. all random though!
I'll try to catch the log and send a bugreport instead off whining
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Miyamoto Uroki
PURE Legion
Pure.
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Posted - 2008.03.18 14:58:00 -
[164]
New server hotfix has been deployed... now what? No changes for this major problem?
Like I said before and sadly cannot point out enough: you ccp guys fail at giving information at your paying customers. I curse you!!!!!
Originally by: Puupuu
dude... your face
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Mirichan
Royal Amarr Institute
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Posted - 2008.03.18 15:35:00 -
[165]
A GM has answered t my request this morning. CCP is aware of the problem but don't know where the bug is and is not interested to rollback the patch for fixing it
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Aero Zolic
DarkStar 1
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.18 15:51:00 -
[166]
Originally by: Mirichan
A GM has answered t my request this morning. CCP is aware of the problem but don't know where the bug is and is not interested to rollback the patch for fixing it
Stepping back would be a bad solution. I'm sure they're gonna sniff out the bug and fix it as soon as they find it. Stuff takes time you know
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Mirichan
Royal Amarr Institute
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Posted - 2008.03.18 16:15:00 -
[167]
when they can't find the bug they have to rollbac ist, it#s a normal doing. Like the category cargo thing that was added a while ago and removed again because it was not wirking.
And when the bug is resolved the can integrate the patch again, but not use the whole eve community as beta testers. i'm not paying for this
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Poht
Taurus Inc
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Posted - 2008.03.18 16:24:00 -
[168]
then stop whining, undock get the log file a bug report!
it helps CCP to resolve this quicker!
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agent apple
Spartan Industries
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.03.18 19:33:00 -
[169]
Andy Dufresne ITT with a letter a day till this get fixed
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Publicus Paulus
Hedion University
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Posted - 2008.03.18 23:19:00 -
[170]
Up because the problem is still there, it's a non-playable issue and there's still no reaction from ccp.
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Evolutius
ESI Corporation
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Posted - 2008.03.19 00:44:00 -
[171]
FIX THE FPS ISSUES
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Mulciber Toonces
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2008.03.19 02:08:00 -
[172]
I HOPE CCP GETS HOW SERIOUS THIS IS. I AM STARTING A PETITION TO HOLD PAYMENTS ON ACCOUNTS EXPERIENCING THESE PROBLEMS. IF YOU AGREE PLEASE REPLY. DO NOT SIT BY AND TAKE IT, POWER IN NUMBERS. LETS SHOW CCP THAT WE MEAN BUSINESS. IF YOU ARE WITH ME, HOLD PAYMENT ON YOUR ACCOUNT STARTING MARCH 25, 2008.
FOR CCP: I SENT MY BUG REPORT, I RECIEVED NO FOLLOW UP. THE SIMPLE FACT THAT YOU HAVE NOT AKNOLEDGED THE PROBLEM OR REASSURED YOUR PAYING CUSTOMERS IS TESTIMENT TO YOUR INEPTITUDE. I LOVE EVE, I WANT TO PLAY EVE, I WILL CANCEL IF YOU DO NOT POST ON YOUR MOTD A MESSAGE OF REASSURANCE TO THOSE EXPERIENCING THESE PROBLEMS. REMEMBER, YOU WANT MY MONEY. IF I DO NOT HEAR ANYTHING WITHIN THE NEXT WEEK I AM CANCELLING AND SENDING IN A REPORT TO THE BETTER BUSINESS BUREAU.
A HOPEFUL PAYING CUSTOMER,
KERRY
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Ark Tyriel
afk for a poo
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Posted - 2008.03.19 03:05:00 -
[173]
Originally by: Mulciber Toonces
I HOPE CCP GETS HOW SERIOUS THIS IS. I AM STARTING A PETITION TO HOLD PAYMENTS ON ACCOUNTS EXPERIENCING THESE PROBLEMS. IF YOU AGREE PLEASE REPLY. DO NOT SIT BY AND TAKE IT, POWER IN NUMBERS. LETS SHOW CCP THAT WE MEAN BUSINESS. IF YOU ARE WITH ME, HOLD PAYMENT ON YOUR ACCOUNT STARTING MARCH 25, 2008.
FOR CCP: I SENT MY BUG REPORT, I RECIEVED NO FOLLOW UP. THE SIMPLE FACT THAT YOU HAVE NOT AKNOLEDGED THE PROBLEM OR REASSURED YOUR PAYING CUSTOMERS IS TESTIMENT TO YOUR INEPTITUDE. I LOVE EVE, I WANT TO PLAY EVE, I WILL CANCEL IF YOU DO NOT POST ON YOUR MOTD A MESSAGE OF REASSURANCE TO THOSE EXPERIENCING THESE PROBLEMS. REMEMBER, YOU WANT MY MONEY. IF I DO NOT HEAR ANYTHING WITHIN THE NEXT WEEK I AM CANCELLING AND SENDING IN A REPORT TO THE BETTER BUSINESS BUREAU.
A HOPEFUL PAYING CUSTOMER,
KERRY
lol do u think they will be that upset about one account? 
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Brutal Psycho
East Khanid Trading
Khanid Trade Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.03.19 03:41:00 -
[174]
Add me to the growing list of customers with FPS issues. Didn't even know my frame rate before the patch because it never bothered me. Now I get 12-15 fpa in station and 4.5 - 5.5 fps in space. DX diag and bug report being submitted as we speak. Living and working in Khanid region.
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Amadeus Minzart
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.03.19 03:54:00 -
[175]
Originally by: Ark Tyriel
Originally by: Mulciber Toonces
I HOPE CCP GETS HOW SERIOUS THIS IS. I AM STARTING A PETITION TO HOLD PAYMENTS ON ACCOUNTS EXPERIENCING THESE PROBLEMS. IF YOU AGREE PLEASE REPLY. DO NOT SIT BY AND TAKE IT, POWER IN NUMBERS. LETS SHOW CCP THAT WE MEAN BUSINESS. IF YOU ARE WITH ME, HOLD PAYMENT ON YOUR ACCOUNT STARTING MARCH 25, 2008.
FOR CCP: I SENT MY BUG REPORT, I RECIEVED NO FOLLOW UP. THE SIMPLE FACT THAT YOU HAVE NOT AKNOLEDGED THE PROBLEM OR REASSURED YOUR PAYING CUSTOMERS IS TESTIMENT TO YOUR INEPTITUDE. I LOVE EVE, I WANT TO PLAY EVE, I WILL CANCEL IF YOU DO NOT POST ON YOUR MOTD A MESSAGE OF REASSURANCE TO THOSE EXPERIENCING THESE PROBLEMS. REMEMBER, YOU WANT MY MONEY. IF I DO NOT HEAR ANYTHING WITHIN THE NEXT WEEK I AM CANCELLING AND SENDING IN A REPORT TO THE BETTER BUSINESS BUREAU.
A HOPEFUL PAYING CUSTOMER,
KERRY
lol do u think they will be that upset about one account?
It's not just his account, my subscription is already cancelled. Since I paid for one month the day before the patch, it really ticked me off. I'll be logging in to train skills, but that's about all I can do. I've watched 3 agent offers expire since this hit, and my faction steadily decrease, and am able to do nothing about it, so what's the ****ing point of playing this game? One day it's fine, the next day it's not, and it's not getting better. I'm already investing time in another mmo, and having fun...not looking back, even though I loved Eve, once upon a week ago.
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Newbear
Fission Industries
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Posted - 2008.03.19 05:30:00 -
[176]
Originally by: Amadeus Minzart
Edited by: Amadeus Minzart on 19/03/2008 04:06:12
Originally by: Ark Tyriel
Originally by: Mulciber Toonces
I HOPE CCP GETS HOW SERIOUS THIS IS. I AM STARTING A PETITION TO HOLD PAYMENTS ON ACCOUNTS EXPERIENCING THESE PROBLEMS. IF YOU AGREE PLEASE REPLY. DO NOT SIT BY AND TAKE IT, POWER IN NUMBERS. LETS SHOW CCP THAT WE MEAN BUSINESS. IF YOU ARE WITH ME, HOLD PAYMENT ON YOUR ACCOUNT STARTING MARCH 25, 2008.
FOR CCP: I SENT MY BUG REPORT, I RECIEVED NO FOLLOW UP. THE SIMPLE FACT THAT YOU HAVE NOT AKNOLEDGED THE PROBLEM OR REASSURED YOUR PAYING CUSTOMERS IS TESTIMENT TO YOUR INEPTITUDE. I LOVE EVE, I WANT TO PLAY EVE, I WILL CANCEL IF YOU DO NOT POST ON YOUR MOTD A MESSAGE OF REASSURANCE TO THOSE EXPERIENCING THESE PROBLEMS. REMEMBER, YOU WANT MY MONEY. IF I DO NOT HEAR ANYTHING WITHIN THE NEXT WEEK I AM CANCELLING AND SENDING IN A REPORT TO THE BETTER BUSINESS BUREAU.
A HOPEFUL PAYING CUSTOMER,
KERRY
lol do u think they will be that upset about one account?
It's not just his account, my subscription is already cancelled. Since I paid for one month the day before the patch, it really ticked me off. I'll be logging in to train skills, but that's about all I can do. I've watched 3 agent offers expire since this hit, and my faction steadily decrease, and am able to do nothing about it, so what's the ****ing point of playing this game? One day it's fine, the next day it's not, and it's not getting better. I'm already investing time in another mmo, and having fun...not looking back, even though I loved Eve, once upon a week ago. But, things change, and CCP's attitude towards this basically is just not worth my time or effort. Despite the hundreds of posts, they continue to do nothing except advertise wingman programs, and the first thing they fix is rookie missions for trial accounts. Screw the better business bureau, I'll be posting on various mmo websites about the whole ordeal for a long long time, not to mention talking to other people in other mmos. Besides, it's only a matter of time before someone comes out with a similiar game. I can wait.
It is just not one account! It is a CAPITAL account! CCP should get into the video card and computer component industry. Make computers that can run the type of game they make.
Click here for my High Security POS Service
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Dapper Danny
Biogen Explorations
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Posted - 2008.03.19 06:18:00 -
[177]
Hmmm.. been a week and still no change?... Logged in just now and thought it might be ok since I was getting 40+ fps inside teh stations, undock and bang down to 7 fps again.
Im wondering if somehow the engine isnt ignoring the rendering of stations planets and ships outside of the players maximum visual range... might account for why some systems are fine and others aint (although given some people mention normaly decent population systems are fine for them might blow that idea out of the water). So basicly your cards rendering every damn ship within the system in your line of site regardless of its distance from the player. Then again i know nothing...
Account runs out in 2 weeks... dont think im gonna continue if all I can do is sit in a station and train. Thankfully theres a chance I might make it into the WAR Beta soon.
- The Boot.ini Incident glances off your EvE Install causing no real damage! - |
Kristoffer
Invicta.
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Posted - 2008.03.19 10:08:00 -
[178]
Still utterly crap FPS. No point undocking or trying to pvp when you get 13 FPS outside of an empty station.
GG CCP.
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abbagabba
Monster Raving Loonies
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Posted - 2008.03.19 10:45:00 -
[179]
Right to the top. Any acknowledgement of this huge issue? I started playing Eve on a laptop which now gets 5 fps, if I started now I wouldnt be carrying on. Maybe rethink the Wingman promotion until this is sorted?
On my main computer I am getting 12 FPs in space which shoots up to 35 as soon as I open the star map. Dual accounting is almost impossible.
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Magius Paulus
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
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Posted - 2008.03.19 11:25:00 -
[180]
CCP, at least pretend like you're interested in problems your customers have and keeping them up to date.
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Mirichan
Royal Amarr Institute
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Posted - 2008.03.19 12:14:00 -
[181]
Edited by: Mirichan on 19/03/2008 12:14:37
is there anywhere starting a class-action suit again ccp? i will subscribe immediatly to it....
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Sma Zakalwe
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.03.19 13:11:00 -
[182]
Yet another extended downtime, and yet again no improvement in the FPS problem. Still no communication or confirmation from CCP that they are working to resolve this issue. Its been a week FFS. Come on CCP, I know you read these forums because you are only too happy to respond when its not a negative or difficult issue being asked about.
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Murath Kalth
Metafarmers
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Posted - 2008.03.19 14:40:00 -
[183]
Edited by: Murath Kalth on 19/03/2008 14:43:58
Edited by: Murath Kalth on 19/03/2008 14:41:40
1 week now of low fps highly fustrating
but found this...
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=724154&page=23#663
So Hopefully it wont be much longer for a fix...Hopefully.
Sometimes Pleasure is a sin But to Sin is Always a Pleasure |
lowr1der
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2008.03.19 14:50:00 -
[184]
Just logged in, still no improvement, fps between 3.5-5.0, even worse then yesterday
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Quani
Trill Crabulas
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Posted - 2008.03.19 16:15:00 -
[185]
yay for no fix in a week...
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Mulciber Toonces
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2008.03.19 17:02:00 -
[186]
Originally by: Ark Tyriel
Originally by: Mulciber Toonces
I HOPE CCP GETS HOW SERIOUS THIS IS. I AM STARTING A PETITION TO HOLD PAYMENTS ON ACCOUNTS EXPERIENCING THESE PROBLEMS. IF YOU AGREE PLEASE REPLY. DO NOT SIT BY AND TAKE IT, POWER IN NUMBERS. LETS SHOW CCP THAT WE MEAN BUSINESS. IF YOU ARE WITH ME, HOLD PAYMENT ON YOUR ACCOUNT STARTING MARCH 25, 2008.
FOR CCP: I SENT MY BUG REPORT, I RECIEVED NO FOLLOW UP. THE SIMPLE FACT THAT YOU HAVE NOT AKNOLEDGED THE PROBLEM OR REASSURED YOUR PAYING CUSTOMERS IS TESTIMENT TO YOUR INEPTITUDE. I LOVE EVE, I WANT TO PLAY EVE, I WILL CANCEL IF YOU DO NOT POST ON YOUR MOTD A MESSAGE OF REASSURANCE TO THOSE EXPERIENCING THESE PROBLEMS. REMEMBER, YOU WANT MY MONEY. IF I DO NOT HEAR ANYTHING WITHIN THE NEXT WEEK I AM CANCELLING AND SENDING IN A REPORT TO THE BETTER BUSINESS BUREAU.
A HOPEFUL PAYING CUSTOMER,
KERRY
lol do u think they will be that upset about one account?
Yeah, if they are serious about keeping customers numbnuts. Where did you learn your economics? How the **** do you think anything ever gets changed. Once upon a time a set of colonies got ****ed off at the country taxing the **** out of them, enough people said **** it and started a new country. Read my text a little better before you go and do some "geek hide behind the computer" insult.
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Alex Verrel
State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.03.19 18:53:00 -
[187]
Edited by: Alex Verrel on 19/03/2008 18:54:49
Bump. I use the Classic client (patched) and I have the FPS drop too.
So far it is clearly seen that only classic gfx users have the problem.
Also I have this for you:
One guy in a different EVE forum has reported, that he was able to solve the problem by
1)installing eve from a freshly downloaded Premium package
then
2)disabling the premium content.
As a result he was able to get classic gfx with pre-patch fps levels.
Can someone else confirm this? This is definitely a thing to try while waiting for CCP responce.
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Antheon
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.03.19 19:10:00 -
[188]
Originally by: Alex Verrel
Edited by: Alex Verrel on 19/03/2008 18:54:49
Bump. I use the Classic client (patched) and I have the FPS drop too.
So far it is clearly seen that only classic gfx users have the problem.
Also I have this for you:
One guy in a different EVE forum has reported, that he was able to solve the problem by
1)installing eve from a freshly downloaded Premium package
then
2)disabling the premium content.
As a result he was able to get classic gfx with pre-patch fps levels.
Can someone else confirm this? This is definitely a thing to try while waiting for CCP responce.
It was in this thread, and no, it didn't work for me.
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Alex Verrel
State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.03.19 19:59:00 -
[189]
Originally by: Antheon
It was in this thread, and no, it didn't work for me.
Did you use Premium install? This is important, because it seems that the problem is only present in the 'pure' classic client.
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Kryttos
Hard Corp
Brotherhood Of Steel
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Posted - 2008.03.19 20:07:00 -
[190]
its not just classic. its premium as well.
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THEDARKSIDEOFTHEMOON
Phantom Squad
Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.03.19 20:40:00 -
[191]
ohh well...i was playing before this patch...now i cant anymore..........
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Sma Zakalwe
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.03.19 20:56:00 -
[192]
I spotted a CCP rep in another thread and posted this:
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=728900&page=2#47
Just a vain effort to get some sort of response/update....
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Olleybear
Red Dwarf Mining Corps
Rule of Three
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Posted - 2008.03.19 21:58:00 -
[193]
I spotted a workaround for the FPS issue.
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=724154&page=26#751
Its not the greatest workaround, but it does increase your FPS. For me its from 10 fps to around 30.
<<< From one warrior to another: Whether you fight with me or against me, the willingness to fight makes us brothers. >>> |
Evolutius
ESI Corporation
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Posted - 2008.03.19 21:58:00 -
[194]
They're not going to address it, as the majority of users are fine. After a week, they obviously don't care.
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Magius Paulus
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
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Posted - 2008.03.19 22:25:00 -
[195]
Originally by: Olleybear
I spotted a workaround for the FPS issue.
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=724154&page=26#751
Its not the greatest workaround, but it does increase your FPS. For me its from 10 fps to around 30.
Indeed, this workaround (activate the starmap and play only using your overview) seems to work. Great for PvE players, as you only need the overview to finish most missions anyway.For PvP-ing it is not so good, as you have need a lot of actions were you need to click in space or otherwise need visuals. Quite ironic that a player comes with this and not CCP, but maybe it helps CCP some more to a good solution for this.
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Aknecep
Royal Amarr Institute
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Posted - 2008.03.19 22:42:00 -
[196]
Edited by: Aknecep on 19/03/2008 22:44:01
Edited by: Aknecep on 19/03/2008 22:42:29
I have played the game 2 days now. I almost stopped completely after 2 hours of constant lag everytime I approach a stargate/base and have to sit in space after gating/docking because I lock up.
My computer (and I am a computer technician btw and ftw) has a dual core 2 cpu, 2 gigs of ddr3 ram, Aureal 3D sound, and NVIDIA's 8800 GT viddy card. My connection is a very consistent 7ish MB download stream with a 400 kb or so upload stream... I check my speeds on occasion and almost absolutely always get this result from speakeasy.com...
Now, I'm looking for a tweak with EVE's cache that I can make, a switch to an unsupported driver that might work better than NVIDIA's most current official one, something that I can do that isn't the normal... uhh, duh... it's your ISP... or update your drivers dude... Like I said, computers are my life (don't tell my wife) so I don't want the humdrum crap. I'm looking for something real that will fix or at least explain why when I get to a freaking stargate and/or base (and I'm finding we have to use them CONSTANTLY) I lag to oblivion for a few seconds before and after the jump/dock or undock.
I've tried a slew of option alternatives and configurations with my video settings ingame - with and without the new graphics implemented, really crap resolution to what I usually run on my 23" lcd monitor which is pure high rez (1080p) - it simply doesn't matter what I do I always get these little freezes so I'm missing something... maybe it's not video, maybe it's CPU or sound?... but when I upgraded to NVIDIA's newest driver for my card it did lessen it to a more bearable level. I dunno... I have turned off music altogether and the voip options to no avail also.
Thank you so much for helping me out in advance. I'm loving the game but the lag is driving me nuts since I don't get it otherwise... For those of you that play WoW... I can walk into Orgrimmar and port to Shatt'rah with no lag... none... so my system usually performs like it's skating on glass.
The whole "play just with the starmap" option... Yeah, I tried that and I freeze everytime I jump with the starmap open I freeze with the starmap up... it's not even freakin graphics based apparently. What gives?
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Evelyn Murphy
Khaos Heavy Industries
Order of Khaos
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Posted - 2008.03.19 23:47:00 -
[197]
Originally by: Mulciber Toonces
Originally by: Ark Tyriel
Originally by: Mulciber Toonces
I HOPE CCP GETS HOW SERIOUS THIS IS. I AM STARTING A PETITION TO HOLD PAYMENTS ON ACCOUNTS EXPERIENCING THESE PROBLEMS. IF YOU AGREE PLEASE REPLY. DO NOT SIT BY AND TAKE IT, POWER IN NUMBERS. LETS SHOW CCP THAT WE MEAN BUSINESS. IF YOU ARE WITH ME, HOLD PAYMENT ON YOUR ACCOUNT STARTING MARCH 25, 2008.
FOR CCP: I SENT MY BUG REPORT, I RECIEVED NO FOLLOW UP. THE SIMPLE FACT THAT YOU HAVE NOT AKNOLEDGED THE PROBLEM OR REASSURED YOUR PAYING CUSTOMERS IS TESTIMENT TO YOUR INEPTITUDE. I LOVE EVE, I WANT TO PLAY EVE, I WILL CANCEL IF YOU DO NOT POST ON YOUR MOTD A MESSAGE OF REASSURANCE TO THOSE EXPERIENCING THESE PROBLEMS. REMEMBER, YOU WANT MY MONEY. IF I DO NOT HEAR ANYTHING WITHIN THE NEXT WEEK I AM CANCELLING AND SENDING IN A REPORT TO THE BETTER BUSINESS BUREAU.
A HOPEFUL PAYING CUSTOMER,
KERRY
lol do u think they will be that upset about one account?
Yeah, if they are serious about keeping customers numbnuts. Where did you learn your economics? How the **** do you think anything ever gets changed. Once upon a time a set of colonies got ****ed off at the country taxing the **** out of them, enough people said **** it and started a new country. Read my text a little better before you go and do some "geek hide behind the computer" insult.
Dude, freakin chill out.
1. EVE is a game and real people are actually trying to fix the problem
2. Cursing like that and blurting out insults will only get you ignored and won't help the situation
3. Next time you get angry, think of kittens
Now, I intend on just waiting and doing something else with my day until this is resolved. However, it had better happen soon
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Mulciber Toonces
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2008.03.20 02:47:00 -
[198]
Edited by: Mulciber Toonces on 20/03/2008 02:49:47
Edited by: Mulciber Toonces on 20/03/2008 02:47:41
Dude, freakin chill out.
1. EVE is a game and real people are actually trying to fix the problem
2. Cursing like that and blurting out insults will only get you ignored and won't help the situation
3. Next time you get angry, think of kittens
Now, I intend on just waiting and doing something else with my day until this is resolved. However, it had better happen soon
My point exactly, if they have people working on how about they let us know. Thats all I want, to be treated like an adult. If they are going to treat me like a child then I'll most likely be ****ed off.
Why do you care whether I curse or not. Does it really get on your nerves? Next time you think about responding to someone's post think about what you are saying or kittens. By the way this is text and nothing can be blurted out, rather typed hastily.
hooker spit wash dead body *uck party
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Evelyn Murphy
Khaos Heavy Industries
Order of Khaos
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Posted - 2008.03.20 03:03:00 -
[199]
Originally by: Mulciber Toonces
My point exactly, if they have people working on how about they let us know. Thats all I want, to be treated like an adult. If they are going to treat me like a child then I'll most likely be ****ed off.
Why do you care whether I curse or not. Does it really get on your nerves? Next time you think about responding to someone's post think about what you are saying or kittens. By the way this is text and nothing can be blurted out, rather typed hastily.
hooker spit wash dead body *uck party
I do agree, it would be nice to have CCP notify us in a post about known problems that are really affecting gameplay and what they are doing to correct them. However, I still don't think that outright aggression and thoughtless behavior will solve any problem. And to respond to your last sentence: moose waffle blubber spatula gazebo.
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Bean Counter
Starfinder Corp
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Posted - 2008.03.20 10:32:00 -
[200]
Could we get an update on the FPS issue? Are you going to be able to fix it? If yes, what is the expected date?If no, please post the new minimum requirements for Eve.
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Eben Rochelle
Free Mercenaries Union
Red Republic
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Posted - 2008.03.20 11:28:00 -
[201]
Edited by: Eben Rochelle on 20/03/2008 11:29:13
I have this problem too and will be bug reporting it as soon as DT has ended. Then i will wait patinetly for CCP to fix it.
All this class action lawsuit *******s is ridiculous. READ the EULA before you start spouting your reactionary internet anomininity induced rubbish.
I've posted on these foums time and time again that if you can show me a MMORPG that even comes close to what Eve in its entirety is then I may consider being dismayed. Managing a couple of thousand elves in a linear environment with the same 100 items being use by 90% of said elves with little or no variation is not the same as running a non-linear "sandbox" virtual world with up to 40,000 players at one time.
Get your facts straight, stop talking out of your backside and don't waste precious seconds of my life with your captain capslock cruise control idiot monkey rants.
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Brutal Psycho
East Khanid Trading
Khanid Trade Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.03.20 14:14:00 -
[202]
Well I just checked my submitted bug report and it states it has been attached to a defect. So, that to me is acknowledgement of the fact something is broken. Now to wait for the fix.
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Evolutius
ESI Corporation
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Posted - 2008.03.20 18:06:00 -
[203]
Originally by: Brutal Psycho
Well I just checked my submitted bug report and it states it has been attached to a defect. So, that to me is acknowledgement of the fact something is broken. Now to wait for the fix.
The bug report I submitted a week ago says the same thing.
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Dragonkat
Drake Fleet
The Acquisition
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Posted - 2008.03.20 18:17:00 -
[204]
Deleted the whole cache.
Reinstalled from scratch.
Exact same problem.
And my account stays cancelled, good work CCP. Count me in the group who isn't hanging around to pay for a slide show. Or waste my time filing a bug report when it's obvious you don't have a clue.
Back to COH!
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Triath Lon
Keepers of Balance
Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2008.03.20 18:21:00 -
[205]
Besides crappy FPS, anyone has an issue where if you alt-tab your EVE windows doesn't "unfold" and you have to kill it and restart?
That issue only appeared after the Joost Patch.
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Pilgrim - you can lock me, just can't hit me.
Falcon - if i'm lucky... |
Ireth
Federation of Xenotech
Xenotech Celestial Coalition
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Posted - 2008.03.20 19:37:00 -
[206]
For some reason eve doesn't like mozilla on my system, got rid of mozilla (stuck opera on instead) and haven't had a problem since.
Happy days until the next patch i suppose
Regards
Ireth
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Sultry Black
Black Hearts
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Posted - 2008.03.20 20:14:00 -
[207]
1 frame every minute.
Epic lag.
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Aknecep
Royal Amarr Institute
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Posted - 2008.03.20 21:00:00 -
[208]
I have no problem with FPS... I think people confuse FPS issues with latency issues... lag and drop in fps do not necessarily exemplify the same possible cause(s).
I usually run at 60 fps on average. Until I warp to a stargate or undock from a base. When I warp or dock otherwise I'm fine. What happens isn't graphics related because it still happens when I have my starmap open. Everything freezes for about 3 seconds and continues normally. I've no excess running processes and doesn't seem to make a difference at all whether my graphics and sound settings are this or that extreme and what the combination is or whether or not I have background or other appys running at the same time as EVE I still get this bizarre lock up of a few seconds when I'm undocking any base (populated by players or not) and warping to a stargate (also when I'm trying to get close to jump)... otherwise, the game is smoo-ooooth. I love this game but as a new player I am disappointed in these hiccups which occur often since we all know how often we have to jump in the game.
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Antheon
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Posted - 2008.03.20 22:46:00 -
[209]
Originally by: Aknecep
Edited by: Aknecep on 20/03/2008 21:08:04
Edited by: Aknecep on 20/03/2008 21:06:19
I have no problem with FPS... I think people confuse FPS issues with latency issues... lag and drop in fps do not necessarily exemplify the same possible cause(s).
I usually run at 60 fps on average. That is until I warp to a stargate or undock from a base and then I freeze for several seconds for apparently no reason. When I warp or dock otherwise I'm fine, everything's butter and beautiful. What happens that is annoying for me and potentially related in someway to the other gripes on this thread isn't graphics related because it still happens even when I have my starmap open (which would result in a condition that is nowhere near hardcore enough to bog my rig down).
Everything freezes for about 3 seconds and then continues normally. I've no excess running processes and doesn't seem to make a difference at all whether my graphics and sound settings are this or that extreme and what the combination is or whether or not I have background or other appys running at the same time as EVE I still get this bizarre lock up of a few seconds when I'm undocking any base (populated by players or not) and warping to a stargate (also when I'm trying to get close to jump)... otherwise, the game is smoo-ooooth. Dual Core 2 2.3Ghz Intel cpu, 2Gb ddr3 RAM, NVIDIA 8800 GT viddy, and Aureal 3D sound... I am a networking guy at heart and am all about making sure my broadband is good and it's almost always 7ish Mb download and 300 to 400kb upload when I test it.
I love this game but as a new player I am disappointed in these hiccups which occur often since we all know how often we have to jump in the game.
and I have got to say...
If you are wanting to file a class action lawsuit against my new favorite game's publisher you can bytemyballz. Go play a console then monkey.
No, I am not confusing fps with "lag". I've been playing PC games for 10 years.
I sit in Isendeldik, open the FPS window and it hovers around 10-12 fps. I know for a FACT that before the boost patch, I hovered around 40-45.
I'll be patient and hope for a fix. I subbed for my first month 3 days before the boost patch, and I like my Amarr character :)
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LoKesh
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Posted - 2008.03.20 22:52:00 -
[210]
Add another to the pile - same problem here. I'd like to add the observation that the in-station environment is worse than anything outside Even when the station environment is turned off.
The above mentioned FPS boost when turning off the overview/windows/menubar has always been true. I'm not sure if that means it's gotten worse or is just more noticeable now. Low FPS in stations without the background loaded would suggest some menu/window related thing?
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Mulciber Toonces
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2008.03.21 04:31:00 -
[211]
Originally by: Eben Rochelle
Edited by: Eben Rochelle on 20/03/2008 11:29:13
I have this problem too and will be bug reporting it as soon as DT has ended. Then i will wait patinetly for CCP to fix it.
All this class action lawsuit *******s is ridiculous. READ the EULA before you start spouting your reactionary internet anomininity induced rubbish.
I've posted on these foums time and time again that if you can show me a MMORPG that even comes close to what Eve in its entirety is then I may consider being dismayed. Managing a couple of thousand elves in a linear environment with the same 100 items being use by 90% of said elves with little or no variation is not the same as running a non-linear "sandbox" virtual world with up to 40,000 players at one time.
Get your facts straight, stop talking out of your backside and don't waste precious seconds of my life with your captain capslock cruise control idiot monkey rants.
why dont you just suck their ****
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Neko Axin
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2008.03.21 13:33:00 -
[212]
Originally by: Sporolichimisu
Reformatting my hard drive and reinstalling Eve didn't make one bit of a difference. I noticed that in the Oueletta system, my fps went back to 42-50 fps for some strange reason (just like pre-patch in EVERY system). Jump one system over to Jufvitte, it's back to under 10 fps. Makes no sense whatsoever.
How many planets and moons in each?
I see Oueletta has barely any but Jufvitte is really packed.
I have the exact same issue in Brundakur and Alf as extreme examples. I wrote a forum post about it but I can't find the thing anymore.
The more planets and moons in a system, the slower the game gets, that's my experience, and it's *directly proportional to the number of planets and moons*. It's just a shame systems with low numbers of planets and moons are so uncommon in the game...
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Durao
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Posted - 2008.03.21 15:11:00 -
[213]
Edited by: Durao on 21/03/2008 15:12:22
I submitted a second bug report with logs and dxdiag files. This time I flew from Penirgman in Amarr space (decent fps) to Ashab (really poor fps). Penirgman had 142 in local compared with Ashab's 101. The two systems are adjacent to each other.
Why is the one with less people also less fps than the other? I don't know. Also, even in decent fps systems, it is still lower than prior to the boost patch. I can't really report that with the bug report and logs, though. I just know based on my ability to play the game before and after the patch.
I hope we can get this solved. I love my Eve.
The logs are very important. If you submit a bug report about this, please do it with a log file attached. |
Sporolichimisu
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Posted - 2008.03.21 17:33:00 -
[214]
Originally by: Neko Axin
Originally by: Sporolichimisu
Reformatting my hard drive and reinstalling Eve didn't make one bit of a difference. I noticed that in the Oueletta system, my fps went back to 42-50 fps for some strange reason (just like pre-patch in EVERY system). Jump one system over to Jufvitte, it's back to under 10 fps. Makes no sense whatsoever.
How many planets and moons in each?
I see Oueletta has barely any but Jufvitte is really packed.
I have the exact same issue in Brundakur and Alf as extreme examples. I wrote a forum post about it but I can't find the thing anymore.
The more planets and moons in a system, the slower the game gets, that's my experience, and it's *directly proportional to the number of planets and moons*. It's just a shame systems with low numbers of planets and moons are so uncommon in the game...
I'm noticing the same thing, now that you mention it. Maybe CCP will notice this and investigate the matter further.
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Evolutius
ESI Corporation
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Posted - 2008.03.21 18:20:00 -
[215]
Yep, the more moons in a system, the more drastic of a fps drop. Systems with 2-3 moons, no fps issues.
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Kobeyashi Morue
Shadows of the Dead
Vae Victis.
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Posted - 2008.03.21 19:43:00 -
[216]
For those of you using laptops with the NVidia GeForce Go 5200 graphics card 64mb, I stumbled onto a solution that boosted me from .5 fps to 9fps.
I went to the NVidia website to download the latest drivers. They have a bundle that is as current as of 2007. Unfortunately, after downloading and installing, it says it cannot find the necessary hardware.
What I did was I went through the device manager, selected my graphics card, and went to "Update Driver" Then I selected "install from a list...", I clicked on "don't search", then to "have disk" then specified the drive (c:/nvidia/win2k/169.21/english) hit "ok" then selected my model from the list that appears. Then followed the prompts and rebooted my system.
The change for me was incredible. The graphics are beautiful in station (50fps) and manageable in space (7-14 fps) There is an NVidia manager that lets you real techies tweak your system. Me, I just let my mouse hover over the various options and selected performance over quality everytime.
I hope this helps everyone. For CCP, just wire me a reasonable reward for helping you keep your paying customers.
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Arous Drephius
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Posted - 2008.03.21 20:29:00 -
[217]
The number of moons in system seems to be true for me as well. Will try the driver thing posted above (I run a 5200FX), and will post results later.
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Miyamoto Uroki
PURE Legion
Pure.
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Posted - 2008.03.21 22:30:00 -
[218]
Updating the driver didn't improve fps for me.
But you are right with the moons, imho. It really seems to be the indicator for laggy systems or perfectly running ones. In a system with like 3 moons I practically have no lag at all.
Originally by: Puupuu
dude... your face
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Liu Lijuan
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Posted - 2008.03.22 09:16:00 -
[219]
Bump to keep this thread on top.
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Quani
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Posted - 2008.03.22 11:27:00 -
[220]
8 pages...
prob not a big deal though...
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agent apple
Spartan Industries
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.03.22 13:34:00 -
[221]
This really varies between systems, some systems such as Irjunen I get full FPS, jump out and then back to 10FPS.
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Murath Kalth
Metafarmers
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Posted - 2008.03.22 14:10:00 -
[222]
yea been flying round various systems seems right about the moon thing, ingunn 6fps, Sirekur 5.8 fps Ebolfer and Frerstorn 12 Fps but Eszur I get 30 fps....looks like Eszur gonna be my happy hunting ground :)
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Ilongo
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2008.03.22 20:12:00 -
[223]
Just to add my 2 cents to this thread.
Bought a laptop yesterday, was expecting to be at least play eve on the lowest settings. It has an integrated card, Intel Duo 2 @1.66Ghz. 2Gb of Ram.
So fair enough it has an integrated card, but I am able to run half life 2 @ 20-50fps depending on what is going on, which is fairly decent.
In Eve I get around 10-15fps, with the classic client, lowest settings. Its just not playable like this. I have another rig at home, can play the game fine, but there I have a dedicated graphics card. Forget the name but its a new Radeon card.... Game runs fine. Ram is only 1024mb though, with a AMD 2800+.
I removed Vista and installed XP, game runs as stated above. With vista it was running at around 5fps...... nightmare. Someone mentioned way back on page 1 or 2 that maybe people with powerful rigs have had a drop in performance, but just don't notice it as their rigs can still cope. With a lower spec machine though, it really hits the performance.
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Sporolichimisu
State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.03.23 03:00:00 -
[224]
Bumping this thread.
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Pedro Snachez
Darkness Inc.
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Posted - 2008.03.23 09:59:00 -
[225]
I have posted in the Windows section about this, but thought I'd post here too to make it clear to CCP and anyone that reads this forum that there IS a problem. Before the patch I was able to run two premium clients simultaneously in windowed mode. Now, I can run one classic client fine, but the second I try and undock with the second, the FPS plummets to 1-2 FPS and the space turns white. Now I accept that there will be bugs with patches, but the thing that really bothers me is the complete silence from CCP. Sure, I'll file a bug report, but it would be nice to hear from ANYONE that you know that there's a problem and that you're working as hard as you can to fix it. That's all. Because right now all I've heard is silence and it's making me wonder if those of us that are having this problem are just too small a number for you to care about. I don't want to think that, but you're not giving me many options right now. I had my accounts set to go on year-long pay periods, but with this experience I'm switching them back to monthly as there's no point in paying for a broken game if I'm not 100% positive that anyone gives a damn about fixing it. That is all.
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Atomusuku
Trill Crabulas
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Posted - 2008.03.23 10:09:00 -
[226]
Yea the moons thing seems to be on the money in Kamela a system with zero moons I can get up to 170fps.
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Blue Disk
New Found Power
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Posted - 2008.03.23 14:39:00 -
[227]
I am having this same issue, but only on the Mac client. My mac used to get 70fps, but now I get 15-20fps. Same hardware, no other changes. I very rarely OS X, as I'm a Windows person. The Windows client however runs perfectly (over 100 fps) both before and after the patch.
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Sma Zakalwe
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.03.23 16:51:00 -
[228]
*bump*
Come on CCP, tell us what's going on. Its getting on for two weeks now....
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Hu Lacour
HeadQuarter
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Posted - 2008.03.23 20:38:00 -
[229]
Edited by: Hu Lacour on 23/03/2008 20:39:18
I can confirm this also, more moons at system, lower FPS I get, its really weird. Villore is horrible also..
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Verx Interis
Aurora Security
The Cyrene Initiative
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Posted - 2008.03.23 20:54:00 -
[230]
I have something like this
My FPS will decide to randomly drop to 10 or so, and nothing changes it. After a while, it comes back up to 40.
I believe this is related to loading the 3d stuff. I remember when the engine was first released, it loaded things very slowly. It seems to have gotten faster, except that it gets stuck on one unimportant thing. The low FPS behavior is similar to that of loading.
Some object doesn't want to load properly, and the engine freezes up until it can load it, which in some cases it can't.
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LeCaz
The Independant Navy Association
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Posted - 2008.03.23 21:02:00 -
[231]
I know this is a really stupid question but ...
What exactly are the test servers used for?
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sg1jack
Independent Capsuleers Union
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Posted - 2008.03.23 22:02:00 -
[232]
Just wanted to add my name to the list.I is a pain in the ass for pve, pre patch rarley got a lag problem and I am running eve on a 3 year old laptop. Now down to 3 fps in most systems maybe if I am lucky 4 fps please please please CCP help us out.
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Sporolichimisu
State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.03.23 23:45:00 -
[233]
Originally by: LeCaz
I know this is a really stupid question but ...
What exactly are the test servers used for?
I think most people get on the test server to "test" new ship setups and to PvP.
Oh yeah, FIX THE FPS.
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RHunterr
Ardent Industrial
Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.24 02:49:00 -
[234]
I *finally* received a reply (other than the auto-reply emails) from a GM at CCP about the FPS drop issue.
But all it said was "This is a known problem that the developers are aware of."....
No mention of any estimate on fixing it, of if they even are currently working on it tho.
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Arous Drephius
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.03.24 12:38:00 -
[235]
I seem to be getting fine FPS on SiSi (in FD-MLJ), can anyone else confirm, or is it just the low number of moons in that system?
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Ayserin
Tha Squiddy Project
New Eden Federation.
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Posted - 2008.03.24 14:15:00 -
[236]
The second I fleet up, my fps goes to hell. From my experiance, it has something to do with the fleet client.
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Gatiep
hirr
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.03.24 14:53:00 -
[237]
Originally by: Arous Drephius
I seem to be getting fine FPS on SiSi (in FD-MLJ), can anyone else confirm, or is it just the low number of moons in that system?
I have just gone on test server and can confirm, in fact, that my fps is great on test server (totally playable), and tranquility remains unplayable. Whatever's going on in the test server needs to be transferred to tranquility. I suggest others try and see if it is better for them on test as well.
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mark sharky
University of Caille
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Posted - 2008.03.24 16:05:00 -
[238]
for two weeks now have been paying for a broken product. eve in it's current state is unplayable. i'm not going to let my credit card be charged agian if this isn't fixed.
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Dionisius
The Circle
STYX.
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Posted - 2008.03.24 16:08:00 -
[239]
One thing i am curious about with most folks having problems is knowing the your cpu models, your ram setups, and the hdd's size and speeds ( besides de graphics card ) :P
Apart from having the alt-tab issue i have had no problems loading the client.
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Bean Counter
Starfinder Corp
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Posted - 2008.03.24 16:12:00 -
[240]
CCP. Please give us an update on the FPS issue. You are not winning any awards for customer service here. it may be true the devs are too busy to reply, but you have a customer service department the exists for this very thing. Are they all AFK? The frustration of your customer base is growing daily.
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Kali Ananda
Prophets Of a Damned Universe
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Posted - 2008.03.24 16:14:00 -
[241]
I have been unable to really use my second account on my laptop since the patch. Pre-patch FPS around 30, now FPS is 6-10. Operating in 0.0 with gatecamps at that frame rate totally sucks, and is basically unplayable.
My laptop is running Classic Client, and I've tried turning off and minimizing everything I can do, with no change in frame rate.
Kali Ananda
POD-U
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Zeppi
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.03.24 16:41:00 -
[242]
Hi CCP Devs who are all at work on this issue, Please make some Nice tech 2 pos gun batteries and some T2 tier2 ships and perhaps everyone will forget about this issue , as its what your good at doing..... covering up mistakes.
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Alex Under
Eternity INC.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2008.03.24 20:46:00 -
[243]
CCP, Any update on the FPS issue?
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roboto212
0utbreak
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Posted - 2008.03.24 21:35:00 -
[244]
i hate this game now....
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CommanderCool
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2008.03.24 21:36:00 -
[245]
withdrawing my subscription today
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Evolutius
ESI Corporation
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Posted - 2008.03.25 08:08:00 -
[246]
C'mon CCP. I know you can do it. Honesty and integrity will take you a long way. At the very least, reply to our cries for help and let us know where you stand on this issue, so we can make an informed decision upon what to do. Your game is awesome, but you need to respond to your customers. If you can't do it yourself, hire me to do it, or hire others to do it. Inform us as to what you are doing regarding this issue. I personally believe that you are hard at work at something, and probably don't want to delve into what it is, but WE THE PEOPLE, deserve an answer.
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Sma Zakalwe
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.03.25 11:16:00 -
[247]
I fear there is a very good reason why we are not hearing anything on this issue, almost two weeks after the patch. I think that the last patch rolled out something which will later be used to implement either (a) ambulation (b) planetary interaction (might explain the links between moons and poor FPS) (c) both, and that CCP have no intention of rolling it back as this would negatively impact on these much touted new elements to the game. If they were to come out and say this, those of us unwilling/unable to upgrade would be offski very quickly. I wonder how many people have not cancelled accounts in the last two weeks in the hope the problem would be resolved and how much income this has retained for CCP?
Baseless speculation perhaps, cynical maybe, but I'm yet to hear a better answer.
Come on CCP, tell us what's going on.
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Cown
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.03.25 13:29:00 -
[248]
Please fix this
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EnacheV2
Hunters Agency
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2008.03.25 13:32:00 -
[249]
I check this thread from time to time just to see how far ccp amateurism goes.
Already my main account expired and this 2nd one has some time left till is gone, i canceled my both accounts due to this problem, simply the game can't be played after the last patch.
I don't plan to return either because i think this company doesn't deserve my money and already got hooked by another game.
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Boogerbuster
State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.03.25 15:59:00 -
[250]
And yet another day with crappy FPS and no response from CCP. :((
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Nicho Void
Hyper-Nova
Tenth Legion
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Posted - 2008.03.25 16:38:00 -
[251]
Originally by: CommanderCool
withdrawing my subscription today
Contract stuffs to Nicho Void.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
We won't laugh at you... to your face...
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Hilbert Space
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2008.03.25 17:47:00 -
[252]
I suggest that everybody(!) with low FPS sends in a bug-report every day right after downtime. Receiving every day hundreds or thousands of bug-reports with nearly same content should convince them to do something. At least the BugHunting-Team will kick the dev-teams ass to stop the bug-reports. It is really humbling to beg for response.
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RiotRick
Black-Sun
Pitch Black Legion
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Posted - 2008.03.25 18:48:00 -
[253]
I'm having the same problem on my laptop which is running the classic client. Dropped from around 40fps in space to well below 15fps (T7250 dual core 2Ghz, 2GB RAM, ATI x1350 128MB).
My desktop pc which is a bit faster and is running the premium client seems to be unaffected by this problem.
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SloBones
Trill Crabulas
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Posted - 2008.03.25 19:09:00 -
[254]
You would think this would be a big issue that ccp would want to fix. Are we surprised that they have only responded once to this thread?
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RiotRick
Black-Sun
Pitch Black Legion
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Posted - 2008.03.25 19:16:00 -
[255]
The premium client even seems to be a couple of fps faster atm....
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Alex V0X2
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.03.25 20:01:00 -
[256]
joining the fun. pre patch - 40-50 fps . post patch - 7-15.
any news on this issue?
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Rekatan
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.03.25 21:55:00 -
[257]
Pre-patch a consistent 30-40FPS, post patch as high as 30 if I aim my view away from all objects and background, down to as low as 1-2 FPS if I'm deep in a lot of action.
I have to play every mission zoomed out 100% /sadpanda fortunately I fly a drake so I don't have to manage much other than the overview anyway.
I've seen a number of worse bugs in prior games, and eve is an incredible game thus far, or I wouldn't have been this patient. Nevertheless it'd be nice to see my ship again.. Sometime.
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abbagabba
Monster Raving Loonies
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Posted - 2008.03.25 23:53:00 -
[258]
HELLO CCP, CAN YOU HEAR US?
Been on holidays for 4 days, was hoping for some resolution or announcement on this issue but nope.
About the correlation with moons, could this be related to the new brackets in space options? (moons were ofc broken in this patch and their icon is never visible in space unless you are on the same grid, any chance of fixing this as well CCP, quite a crucial issue for many players)
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Burnharder
Tiny Industries
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Posted - 2008.03.26 00:08:00 -
[259]
Originally by: Rekatan
Pre-patch a consistent 30-40FPS, post patch as high as 30 if I aim my view away from all objects and background, down to as low as 1-2 FPS if I'm deep in a lot of action.
I have to play every mission zoomed out 100% /sadpanda fortunately I fly a drake so I don't have to manage much other than the overview anyway.
I've seen a number of worse bugs in prior games, and eve is an incredible game thus far, or I wouldn't have been this patient. Nevertheless it'd be nice to see my ship again.. Sometime.
I have the same problem post-patch (didn't see this thread before!). I'm also occassionally getting "white-out" (skybox turns white, fps dives to 1-2 fps). I was previously at around 40 with 2 clients, now its 15 - 20.
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Reckless Hope
Hyperemesis
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Posted - 2008.03.26 01:25:00 -
[260]
yep same. crappy FPS after patch. thanks CCP
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Jaedar Metron
I G N O T U S
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Posted - 2008.03.26 01:53:00 -
[261]
I recently ordered a monitor for my monitor-less desktop. It was expensive.
Why? Because my laptop is too crappy to play eve.
And now I find that the comp that could play eve flawlessly before, is now reduced to yet another e-mail computer.
******* great CCP!
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Kristoffer
Invicta.
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Posted - 2008.03.26 02:51:00 -
[262]
Fix. It.
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Xlex
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2008.03.26 05:10:00 -
[263]
Same issue
ATI Radeon X1550
2.1 Ghz AMD Athlon XP
1.5 Gig Ram
Classic graphics
Worked fine pre-patch
:(
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Rethie
Pattern Jugglers
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Posted - 2008.03.26 12:12:00 -
[264]
See this here...My FIX
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Tarminic
Forsaken Resistance
The Last Stand
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Posted - 2008.03.26 13:42:00 -
[265]
Someone posted a potential fix, says it worked for him: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=735021
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Sma Cheradenine
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2008.03.26 13:57:00 -
[266]
Edited by: Sma Cheradenine on 26/03/2008 13:59:25
You might be please/amused/horrified/aghast (delete as appropriate) to see that CCP are addressing at least some post-patch issues
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=724154&page=27#803
I might suggest that priorities are a little skewed...as a newb I don't even know what a starbase api does but really. compared to this thread.....
When was the last time we had a ccp response on this thread? 10 days ago?
I stand by to be accused of whining....
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JimmyCS
coracao ardente
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.03.26 13:58:00 -
[267]
just postin in here to say i have the same fps issues as other posters since the last patch .. tried alot of different stuff but none of it has fixed my problem.
Also seem to have the weird thing of fps being absolutely terrible in most systems and then fine in some random systems (Aufay)
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Kafur
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2008.03.26 16:00:00 -
[268]
Got the same issues. I am dissapointed that it has not been fixed yet.
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Rod Blaine
Evolution
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.03.26 18:11:00 -
[269]
HELLO ?
IS THE SUN UP YET IN ICELAND THIS YEAR ?
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Moneeh
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2008.03.26 18:18:00 -
[270]
I'm sure the guys at CCP are doing their very best trying to fix this problem, it would be great for us tho to get an ETA or some confirmation that they know what's wrong with the client, so we won't have to check this thread every 12 hours to see what's new. just my thoughts
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Brutal Psycho
East Khanid Trading
Khanid Trade Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.03.26 20:14:00 -
[271]
The bug report I submitted says "Attached to a defect". Can this please be explained? If it is a defect, is it slated for correction? Are there any workarounds to help those of us out who are suffering with this issue? CCP, we are paying customers. Please just acknowledge the issue and give us some hope of it being fixed.
Sincerely,
Brutal Psycho
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reaping miner
Viper Squad
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.03.26 20:34:00 -
[272]
i have like 30 FPS in mission with 2x 8800GT running Sli.
if i dock 150 FPS when i press F (record button on fraps, while running fraps)
i get an FPS of like 24 or something.
and my processor isnt used for a 100% this wasnt before the boost patch and then i was just recording at 60 FPS
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Maakri
Omega Destiny
Brotherhood Of Steel
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Posted - 2008.03.26 20:44:00 -
[273]
Originally by: Vitara DahReh
have a c2d 6600@ 3.15ghz and a geforce 8800gtx ultra
premium client
before patch 200fps+ docked 100-180fps in space
patch 1.1 130fps docked ,100fps in space
i would not reckognize this if i not checking fps from time to time
get a bit better performance when reduced shadows to low
so something is eating fps (new content,game code ? )
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Vancali
Khaos Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2008.03.27 02:40:00 -
[274]
For the love of God! Please fix this FPS issue. I haven't played in 2 weeks because everytime I undock I get 8fps and combat is worse, it's a slideshow that doesn't start for 20 seconds anyway. CCP please post an official something or other saying what is going on. Give us some freakin reassurance that you are researching the issue.
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Deathtouche
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2008.03.27 02:47:00 -
[275]
Has been fine for almost 2 years until the latest patch which now gives random crashes and freezes up often near stargates.
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Morux
KV27
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Posted - 2008.03.27 03:04:00 -
[276]
I find Sma Zakalw's post interesting (about support for new client enhancements later this year being added into this patch) ... that's something I hadn't considered until now. Planetary interaction could wreak havoc for volumetric rendering code and drop fps pretty bad, especially if not implemented right. Not sure if there is any basis to this particular problem, but now I'm a bit curious to see what will happen when the code rollouts for all the ambulation, etc, stuff takes place. Most of the things I do in game are sitting in station... but man does it suck to venture out in space with 4 fps lol [meanwhile, still waiting patiently for fix...] |
Bumkin
Game-Over
Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.03.27 03:40:00 -
[277]
well my patience is gone. as a pvper losing ships at 5 fps is worse than losing them at 30.
so ccp i filed another petition for a ship reimbursment. when that get refused....cya.
faithfull customer for 3 years. peace out.
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Aditi Tagore
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2008.03.27 04:34:00 -
[278]
I was having this problem with one of my laptops. Upgraded to latest drivers and everything works fine...usually.
I believe the last time I updated drivers was somewhere after Dragon Code, or maybe it was shortly after Revelations 1. Either way, it's been a long time and I can't really remember.. That driver update was because one of those 2 patches caused the jump lines on my starmap to disappear! I can get them to reappear by moving so far out as to make seeing them pointless, while putting the map in 3d mode, tilting it upside down, and staying near the center of the map. ...I'm serious, I actually have to do that...
At any rate, the map is no longer showing jump lines again since driver update I did following Boost Patch!
I also said everything works fine, usually... Well, sometimes when I'm in space and looking around at objects and things, the framerate will just crap out for no reason until I jump or dock. It usually seems that maybe I'm moving the camera around too quickly or perhaps there are more objects in the direction of the sun than the machine likes or something... I'm not really sure, it just seems entirely random.
One thing I am really happy about, though, is the fact that I can now change systems, have new ships appear on grid, launch drones, lock targets, or check someone's details without the machine freaking out and locking up for 20-40 seconds at a time while it reams my drive as it has since Trinity.
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Reckless Hope
Hyperemesis
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Posted - 2008.03.27 16:21:00 -
[279]
Originally by: Vancali
For the love of God! Please fix this FPS issue. I haven't played in 2 weeks because everytime I undock I get 8fps and combat is worse, it's a slideshow that doesn't start for 20 seconds anyway. CCP please post an official something or other saying what is going on. Give us some freakin reassurance that you are researching the issue.
this morning when i got up logged on to check a skill, and right away my cpu shot up to 100% and eve was eatting my memory like a fat kid at summer camp. as ccp given a reply on why this is happening or are they even working on it?
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Aramark
Omega Enterprises
Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2008.03.27 16:38:00 -
[280]
i guess i'll train capital ships lvl5, and when that is done maybe CCP will have this fixed or at least "look into it" aka drink more beer to forget about it.
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Dapper Danny
Biogen Explorations
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Posted - 2008.03.27 23:57:00 -
[281]
Hmm well I got finnished installing my new system and graphics card yesterday and gave EvE (classic client) a spin to see what sort of improvement id get, well 90-120fps compared to my old post 'boost' patch 5-15fps was quite a smile maker. However I did notice my card was basicly expelling air that could melt faces from the back vent. Looking at Rivatuners hardware monitor, there was a odd trend...
While docked inside a station my GPU usage was 100% (with temperatures to match that 70+ degrees), undocked and flying around the GPU usage was more in the 50-70% range and the temps where a hell of a lot lower (45-50 degrees).
Why does being docked basicly uber use your graphics card and basicly attempt to fry the thing and being outside not?... on classic client to boot.
My Vid cards a Sapphire HD3870 and ive set the fan speed to a constant 50% with rivatuner since that cards known to have a borked fan control bios that keeps it set at 25%.
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Trawford Zwei
431st Tactical Support
Caeruleum Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.28 06:28:00 -
[282]
Edited by: Trawford Zwei on 28/03/2008 06:29:11
Im in the same situation. Some systems are great and its all good but then I go to Hek or some other random place and its like my PC just kicked itself in the balls.
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System Information
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Time of this report: 3/28/2008, 06:06:04
Machine name: The Holy Cookie
Operating System: Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Packard Bell NEC
System Model: 00000000000000000000000
BIOS: BIOS Date: 04/08/04 16:18:42 Ver: 08.00.09
Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz
Memory: 1918MB RAM
Page File: 328MB used, 5534MB available
Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.2180 32bit Unicode
GFX card is a Nvidia GeForce FX 5200
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yarrmarr
Gladiators of Rage
DeStInY.
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Posted - 2008.03.28 11:43:00 -
[283]
I guess writing a letter and posting it might result in an actual anwer from CCP faster than waiting for them to respond on their own game-forum. I'm really wondering why CCP haven't learned how much solid communication is worth to their customer base.
(and yes, only 10 fps here as well for the last few weeks. just unplayable.)
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CCP Explorer
C C P
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Posted - 2008.03.28 20:10:00 -
[284]
See here.
Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson
Software Director
EVE Online, CCP Games |
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Trawford Zwei
431st Tactical Support
Caeruleum Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.28 21:32:00 -
[285]
Ah thank you for the update!
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Belmarduk
de Prieure
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Posted - 2008.03.28 22:41:00 -
[286]
Very good - I have a machine on which Eve is unplayable now. Also there is this issue with having 2 clients running on the same machine - Impossible since last patch because they both crash after a while... :(
CCP Please give us casual players a Skill-Queue !
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Vancali
Khaos Heavy Industries
Sylph Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.28 23:30:00 -
[287]
Originally by: CCP Explorer
See here.
That's what I'm talking about. Some kind of response! Yay! Implement that client update soon!
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Morux
KV27
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Posted - 2008.03.29 02:42:00 -
[288]
CCP Explorer - Thank you for the update/link. We appreciate the info!  |
Antheon
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.03.29 05:35:00 -
[289]
Edited by: Antheon on 29/03/2008 05:35:04
good, the fix can't come fast enough 
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Mourning Starr
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Posted - 2008.03.29 11:26:00 -
[290]
halle******lujiah!
However, it's still a tawdry response and encapsulates how CCP have handled themselves appalingly during the course of this thread. I actually get the impression that they have something of a disdain towards their player base.
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Sma Zakalwe
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.03.29 11:59:00 -
[291]
Thank you...
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Arous Drephius
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Posted - 2008.03.29 13:08:00 -
[292]
Thanks hugely for the update Explorer, any estimated time for the update to be released?
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CCP Explorer
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Posted - 2008.03.29 15:37:00 -
[293]
I'll provide updates in the other thread.
Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson
Software Director
EVE Online, CCP Games |
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Dapper Danny
Biogen Explorations
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Posted - 2008.03.30 05:56:00 -
[294]
Edited by: Dapper Danny on 30/03/2008 05:59:33
Edited by: Dapper Danny on 30/03/2008 05:58:01
Its interesting but after noticing a 100% gpu usage and temp increases while just sitting docked in a station ive looked at other parts of EvE and heres an odd one to be sure...
When sitting on the login screen which isnt much more than a few 2d images or so with a simple 3d scene, my gpu in less than half a second (according to rivatuner) goes being 35 degrees on the desktop to almost 60 degrees on the login screen... in less than half a second!. Also the GPU usage meter reads 88-90% GPU being used... for a login screen?.
My question is, Why is it using so much?... while this isnt a great comparison example, ive been playing Unreal 2 the last few days which is a realy old game these days but I never played it on any real good settings when I bought it since my old vid card was ancient and so I thought id give it a spin with my new vid card I got a week ago. Now even in the biggest fire fight, with all settings at maximum (along with 8x aa) the GPU usage never broke past the upper 70% mark, and the temp never real broke past 45 degrees. This is with my GPU fan set at 50% speed.
Why is my HD3870 vid card basicly breaking its butt rendering a simple login screen?. Anyone else got similar results?... something has to be seriously wrong with that. Good that they've acknowledged it and are fixing it.
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Anarky Xtra
Sick Cruel and Unusual Methods
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Posted - 2008.03.30 16:30:00 -
[295]
Hi all: I don't know if this will help anyone else, but it *seemed* to work for me. I was doing a full reinstall of XP, and was having major FPS issues with Eve after the patch...but when I installed the .Net update, it seemed to solve it.
Link to MS download page (22.4mb):
Linky
As I say, I don't know whether this will work for anyone else: I certainly hope so, 'cos it annoyed the sh1t outta me. :)
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Shammika
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Posted - 2008.03.30 16:42:00 -
[296]
Edited by: Shammika on 30/03/2008 16:44:43
EvE Absolutely unplayable after new patch
I have 1 frame per 10 (TEN) SECONDS.
It even worse than slide show.
In addition a expiriensing some strange troubles with textures rendering.
http://www.anvano.ru/eve/img/eve_error.gif
Clearing caches,reset settings, reinstalling client - did not help.
PS: WoW! Its now 1.3 FPS at station! Great progress!
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Germoshlem
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2008.03.30 18:47:00 -
[297]
Edited by: Germoshlem on 30/03/2008 18:48:05
Quote:
EvE Absolutely unplayable after new patch I have 1 frame per 10 (TEN) SECONDS. It even worse than slide show. In addition a expiriensing some strange troubles with textures rendering. http://www.anvano.ru/eve/img/eve_error.gif Clearing caches,reset settings, reinstalling client - did not help. PS: WoW! Its now 1.3 FPS at station! Great progress!
Very interesting workaround for described feature.
1) Start DXDIAG utility
2) Run Test Direct 3D (only one enough)
After that texture reloaded and game unfreezes.
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Zygdriel
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Posted - 2008.03.30 22:17:00 -
[298]
i play 2 clients always, and i noticed on my pentium dual core than before each client used 50% of cpu...well 49%
now they dont use 50% of cpu each, they share 50% of cpu both, i mean if one is 19% the other is 31%, they never go beyond 50% use both added, also got a severe preformance hit, im not playing anymore
using xp x64 sp2
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Olleybear
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Posted - 2008.03.31 02:03:00 -
[299]
Did you all see that!?!?!?!?
Woohoo!!!!!
A FPS fix coming soon!
\\o dance o// dance \o__o/ swing
<<< From one warrior to another: Whether you fight with me or against me, the willingness to fight makes us brothers. >>> |
Cythrawl
Central Defiance
Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.03.31 14:18:00 -
[300]
Originally by: Zygdriel
i play 2 clients always, and i noticed on my pentium dual core than before each client used 50% of cpu...well 49%
now they dont use 50% of cpu each, they share 50% of cpu both, i mean if one is 19% the other is 31%, they never go beyond 50% use both added, also got a severe preformance hit, im not playing anymore
using xp x64 sp2
Run eve on a single core and not both. Split them up between the two different cores. Should be the fix you need.
.:.
Originally by: Krazy Bitsch
Originally by: Virtuality
In before the first troll.
i do believe you are too late for this.... |
Telemarus
Green Rabbits
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Posted - 2008.03.31 17:17:00 -
[301]
thanks for the fix! :)
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d3vo
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Posted - 2008.03.31 19:43:00 -
[302]
the fix out?
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Magius Paulus
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Posted - 2008.03.31 23:38:00 -
[303]
Originally by: d3vo
the fix out?
Nope, not yet. I guess 'soon'
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d3vo
Airborne Assassins
Order of the Black Cross
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Posted - 2008.04.01 02:32:00 -
[304]
Originally by: Magius Paulus
Originally by: d3vo
the fix out?
Nope, not yet. I guess 'soon'
absolutely rediculous...
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Hilbert Space
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2008.04.01 07:49:00 -
[305]
Originally by: Magius Paulus
Originally by: d3vo
the fix out?
Nope, not yet. I guess 'soon'
Seems that time is really damn relative...
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4giveme
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Posted - 2008.04.01 11:33:00 -
[306]
im suffering from the same thing! i wrote a petition and nothing happened. i used to get 30-50fps and i run vista with a nvidia geforce go6100 on my laptop. ive never had problems before the trinity patch. my avg fps is 3.0-4.2 in space and 6.1 in station. whats going to be done about this cause im obviously not the only 1 this is affecting!
bad performance CCP, bad performance...
-4giveme
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d3vo
Airborne Assassins
Order of the Black Cross
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Posted - 2008.04.01 16:53:00 -
[307]
Originally by: 4giveme
im suffering from the same thing! i wrote a petition and nothing happened. i used to get 30-50fps and i run vista with a nvidia geforce go6100 on my laptop. ive never had problems before the trinity patch. my avg fps is 3.0-4.2 in space and 6.1 in station. whats going to be done about this cause im obviously not the only 1 this is affecting!
bad performance CCP, bad performance...
-4giveme
we are in the same boat
CCP
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Aknecep
Royal Amarr Institute
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Posted - 2008.04.01 22:57:00 -
[308]
duo core 2 2.3Ghz Intel CPU
2 Gigs ddr3 RAM
NVIDIA 8800 GT viddy
Aureal 3D soundcard
23" high def LCD
600watt power
whatever
I run the premium graphics at high definition resolution and get never less than 50fps... WTF are you people talking about???
I do get a 2sec freeze when I am coming out of warp to a base or stargate with or without anybody there and when I'm undocking from a base but I believe it's just an effort to make sure my ship/character placement remains consistent as I move to and from content servers or something...
I never lag in this game... ever... it's freaking awesome...
unplayable FPS? That sounds bizarre and ridiculous... I've never ever experienced anything like that but I'm a brand new player just started March 13th or so. I'd reevaluate my rig if I were you people. Or maybe you could get a geek squad geek to go look at how jacked up your OS is from your abuse and why your devices don't communicate well to games taking advantage of DX9 or some such nonsense and then overcharge you for the idiot FIXEVERYTHINGIM2LAZYTOFIGUREITOUT reinstall of Windows or some stupid crap so you can play the game normally (as I do) I dunno... Very weird all the bitshing about something I don't experience AT ALL in the game and so I'm being kind of an ass here obviously (I know!) but it's cuz I'm certain that 90% of the ppl in here aren't near as computer literate as they think that they are and half the issue is prolly due to your incompetence in regards to your OS and hardware setup... I mean I have a pretty average or slightly above average computer and I can run this 5 yr old game like a knife through warm butter. I'm an IT professional and networking dude so maybe it's cuz I know how to keep my computer inline with changing software demands or something like I don't delete files when I don't know what they are and I don't do something to my PC unless I know wtf I'm doing? Could be... I have an idea... do like the rest of the monkeys and just play idiot (cater to the lowest common denominator) console games so you don't have to worry about PC games which will always be better than console games... if you don't think so you are one of those monkeys and should go save yourself some stress and sell your PC games now <---*warning* this rant contains gross simplifications included and relied on in order to make a point that no one but game developers might appreciate in this string *discretion advised* |
d3vo
Airborne Assassins
Order of the Black Cross
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Posted - 2008.04.02 00:32:00 -
[309]
tyvm ccp
after the new patch in sisi, the fix worked
!!! even though the long wait...it was worth it now at the end i guess
finally
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Hinn Hamyato
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Posted - 2008.04.02 00:50:00 -
[310]
Originally by: Aknecep
duo core 2 2.3Ghz Intel CPU
2 Gigs ddr3 RAM
NVIDIA 8800 GT viddy
Aureal 3D soundcard
23" high def LCD
600watt power
whatever
I run the premium graphics at high definition resolution and get never less than 50fps... WTF are you people talking about???
I do get a 2sec freeze when I am coming out of warp to a base or stargate with or without anybody there and when I'm undocking from a base but I believe it's just an effort to make sure my ship/character placement remains consistent as I move to and from content servers or something...
I never lag in this game... ever... it's freaking awesome...
unplayable FPS? That sounds bizarre and ridiculous... I've never ever experienced anything like that but I'm a brand new player just started March 13th or so. I'd reevaluate my rig if I were you people. Or maybe you could get a geek squad geek to go look at how jacked up your OS is from your abuse and why your devices don't communicate well to games taking advantage of DX9 or some such nonsense and then overcharge you for the idiot FIXEVERYTHINGIM2LAZYTOFIGUREITOUT reinstall of Windows or some stupid crap so you can play the game normally (as I do) I dunno... Very weird all the bitshing about something I don't experience AT ALL in the game and so I'm being kind of an ass here obviously (I know!) but it's cuz I'm certain that 90% of the ppl in here aren't near as computer literate as they think that they are and half the issue is prolly due to your incompetence in regards to your OS and hardware setup... I mean I have a pretty average or slightly above average computer and I can run this 5 yr old game like a knife through warm butter. I'm an IT professional and networking dude so maybe it's cuz I know how to keep my computer inline with changing software demands or something like I don't delete files when I don't know what they are and I don't do something to my PC unless I know wtf I'm doing? Could be... I have an idea... do like the rest of the monkeys and just play idiot (cater to the lowest common denominator) console games so you don't have to worry about PC games which will always be better than console games... if you don't think so you are one of those monkeys and should go save yourself some stress and sell your PC games now <---*warning* this rant contains gross simplifications included and relied on in order to make a point that no one but game developers might appreciate in this string *discretion advised*
Can't believe I read that entire thing. I was hoping you would get to a logical point of why this is happening to people who have played this game completely fine before Trinity. My gaming rig has no problem playing this, but my run-of-the-mill laptop has 3-4 FPS when it should be 15-20. (You use one period at the end of sentences by the way. NOT 3)
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Cythrawl
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Posted - 2008.04.02 02:42:00 -
[311]
Originally by: Aknecep
I run the premium graphics at high definition resolution and get never less than 50fps... WTF are you people talking about???
First off: Almost everyone here is talking about classic graphics setups. The premium graphics content seems not to have the horrible amount of failure. Second: Devs said they found the problem and are quality testing a fix... where the hell do you get off the crazy train and join the rest of us in reality?
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I never lag in this game... ever... it's freaking awesome...
Apparently you've never seen a decent system or been in a real 0.0 fight. Enjoy 0.5 mining in high sec I guess.
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unplayable FPS? That sounds bizarre and ridiculous...
Really, you've never left high sec... its obvious.
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Very weird all the bitshing about something I don't experience AT ALL in the game and so I'm being kind of an ass here obviously (I know!) but it's cuz I'm certain that 90% of the ppl in here aren't near as computer literate as they think that they are and half the issue is prolly due to your incompetence
90% of the eve community is very well versed with their computers and play a game that most your WoW fanbois can't handle because of the difficulty of the learning curve. If they're willing to invest the time to play this game, they can damn well spend the time to learn about their computers.
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I'm an IT professional and networking dude so maybe it's cuz I know how to keep my computer inline with changing software demands or something like I don't delete files when I don't know what they are and I don't do something to my PC unless I know wtf I'm doing?
BTW IT professionals are also the people who sit behind computers reading from little books of general knowledge about computer problems. Those kinda people also don't speak english as a first language and work in Indian outsourcing houses. Oh, and if you got MS certified, you can **** on the certificate and light it on fire because you still have about as much knowledge as the general computer user who spent the time reading the manual that came with their system.
In the end, don't be an asshat. Learn to punctuate. Get some real eve experience. THEN come talk to the rest of us.
.:.
Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Originally by: Krazy Bitsch
Originally by: Virtuality
In before the first troll.
i do believe you are too late for this.... |
d3vo
Airborne Assassins
Order of the Black Cross
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Posted - 2008.04.02 03:45:00 -
[312]
Originally by: Aknecep
duo core 2 2.3Ghz Intel CPU
2 Gigs ddr3 RAM
NVIDIA 8800 GT viddy
Aureal 3D soundcard
23" high def LCD
600watt power
whatever
I run the premium graphics at high definition resolution and get never less than 50fps... WTF are you people talking about???
I do get a 2sec freeze when I am coming out of warp to a base or stargate with or without anybody there and when I'm undocking from a base but I believe it's just an effort to make sure my ship/character placement remains consistent as I move to and from content servers or something...
I never lag in this game... ever... it's freaking awesome...
unplayable FPS? That sounds bizarre and ridiculous... I've never ever experienced anything like that but I'm a brand new player just started March 13th or so. I'd reevaluate my rig if I were you people. Or maybe you could get a geek squad geek to go look at how jacked up your OS is from your abuse and why your devices don't communicate well to games taking advantage of DX9 or some such nonsense and then overcharge you for the idiot FIXEVERYTHINGIM2LAZYTOFIGUREITOUT reinstall of Windows or some stupid crap so you can play the game normally (as I do) I dunno... Very weird all the bitshing about something I don't experience AT ALL in the game and so I'm being kind of an ass here obviously (I know!) but it's cuz I'm certain that 90% of the ppl in here aren't near as computer literate as they think that they are and half the issue is prolly due to your incompetence in regards to your OS and hardware setup... I mean I have a pretty average or slightly above average computer and I can run this 5 yr old game like a knife through warm butter. I'm an IT professional and networking dude so maybe it's cuz I know how to keep my computer inline with changing software demands or something like I don't delete files when I don't know what they are and I don't do something to my PC unless I know wtf I'm doing? Could be... I have an idea... do like the rest of the monkeys and just play idiot (cater to the lowest common denominator) console games so you don't have to worry about PC games which will always be better than console games... if you don't think so you are one of those monkeys and should go save yourself some stress and sell your PC games now <---*warning* this rant contains gross simplifications included and relied on in order to make a point that no one but game developers might appreciate in this string *discretion advised*
troller with low self esteem who has to find out some way to boast
FAIL
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Vancali
Khaos Heavy Industries
Sylph Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.02 03:54:00 -
[313]
Edited by: Vancali on 02/04/2008 04:05:33
Originally by: Aknecep
unplayable FPS? That sounds bizarre and ridiculous... I've never ever experienced anything like that but I'm a brand new player just started March 13th or so.
I have been playing for 3-4 years noob, and I can tell you that this FPS issue didn't start until the last patch
Quote:
Very weird all the bitshing about something I don't experience AT ALL in the game and so I'm being kind of an ass here obviously (I know!) but it's cuz I'm certain that 90% of the ppl in here aren't near as computer literate as they think that they are and half the issue is prolly due to your incompetence in regards to your OS and hardware setup...
Yes, you are being an ass, and a self-righteous one at that. So sorry that we have no idea what we are talking about. Oh wait! I guess we do according to CCP Explorer.
Also, punctuation and better sentence structure helps people to read your garble a little better.
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Trawf Zwei
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Posted - 2008.04.02 07:14:00 -
[314]
Originally by: Aknecep
duo core 2 2.3Ghz Intel CPU
2 Gigs ddr3 RAM
NVIDIA 8800 GT viddy
Aureal 3D soundcard
23" high def LCD
600watt power
whatever
I run the premium graphics at high definition resolution and get never less than 50fps... WTF are you people talking about???
I do get a 2sec freeze when I am coming out of warp to a base or stargate with or without anybody there and when I'm undocking from a base but I believe it's just an effort to make sure my ship/character placement remains consistent as I move to and from content servers or something...
I never lag in this game... ever... it's freaking awesome...
unplayable FPS? That sounds bizarre and ridiculous... I've never ever experienced anything like that but I'm a brand new player just started March 13th or so. I'd reevaluate my rig if I were you people. Or maybe you could get a geek squad geek to go look at how jacked up your OS is from your abuse and why your devices don't communicate well to games taking advantage of DX9 or some such nonsense and then overcharge you for the idiot FIXEVERYTHINGIM2LAZYTOFIGUREITOUT reinstall of Windows or some stupid crap so you can play the game normally (as I do) I dunno... Very weird all the bitshing about something I don't experience AT ALL in the game and so I'm being kind of an ass here obviously (I know!) but it's cuz I'm certain that 90% of the ppl in here aren't near as computer literate as they think that they are and half the issue is prolly due to your incompetence in regards to your OS and hardware setup... I mean I have a pretty average or slightly above average computer and I can run this 5 yr old game like a knife through warm butter. I'm an IT professional and networking dude so maybe it's cuz I know how to keep my computer inline with changing software demands or something like I don't delete files when I don't know what they are and I don't do something to my PC unless I know wtf I'm doing? Could be... I have an idea... do like the rest of the monkeys and just play idiot (cater to the lowest common denominator) console games so you don't have to worry about PC games which will always be better than console games... if you don't think so you are one of those monkeys and should go save yourself some stress and sell your PC games now <---*warning* this rant contains gross simplifications included and relied on in order to make a point that no one but game developers might appreciate in this string *discretion advised*
kk
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yarrmarr
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Posted - 2008.04.02 08:36:00 -
[315]
Originally by: Aknecep
duo core 2 2.3Ghz Intel CPU
2 Gigs ddr3 RAM
NVIDIA 8800 GT viddy
Aureal 3D soundcard
23" high def LCD
600watt power
whatever
etc etc etc. eve's greatest mining fanboy
CCP Oveur, is that you??
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d3vo
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2008.04.04 02:36:00 -
[316]
for those who have had this fps problem and have been testing it in sisi
it was true that the fps would drop tremendously around moons and planets
however, not i noticed it is the same for stations too? amirite?
if im docked or undocked facing the station, screen lags up and my fps is down to around 5
however, if im out in space somewhere away from a station...its fine...awkward
when will ccp ever get it right
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TheRealBanana1
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2008.04.04 05:32:00 -
[317]
Edited by: TheRealBanana1 on 04/04/2008 05:33:19
Yea I got the bad FPS problem too. I used to get 100+, now Im down to the 30's. But I fixed it. When I turn on nHancer with my EVE Online profile, the FPS problem clears up. Back to 100+ fps, even with 16x CSAA.
Here's the profile settings for others who want to test:
http://pastebin.ca/970655
Just copy all that into a notepad and save it as eveonline.nhprofile, then import it into nHancer.
I should also note my system specs:
Intel Core2Quad Q6600 @ 3.2GHz
EVGA 680i A1 motherboard
2x 1gb Corsair XMS2 @ 1066MHz 5-4-4-12 @ 2.2 volts
GeForce 8800 GTX w/ volt mod @ Core: 650MHz Mem: 2.2GHz Shader: 1.60GHz
So ymmv. =/
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Dionisius
The Circle
STYX.
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Posted - 2008.04.04 12:18:00 -
[318]
Bellow you can see some screens taken both in empire, highsec and the qy6 wtfpwnd! 700-in-local race.
My specs ( and i'm still working on the rig )
CPU - E6550
RAM - 4GB
HDD - 120GB Seagate Barracuda SATA I@the time of the screens ( now replaced for a WD SATA II )
Graphics - XFX 7900GS 256MB
So nothing special still need to work some specs of the old machine but everything runs great, yes i noticed a bit of performance decrease with the latest patch but i seem to be a bit puzzled when everyone complains about freezes and almost 0 fps.
What are your setups people? How is your OS, and what OS do you use, configured? How old is your rig, because i used to run eve fine in my older machine.
Bellow as i said, some screens to show what i meen. ( and yes after someone droped the DD all hell broke loose no miracles there for anyone )
DELVE
QY6 500
QY6 588
High Sec - Courtesy of corpmate.
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I am the destroyer of worlds and the also the cokie thief. |
Kusha'an
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Posted - 2008.04.04 14:03:00 -
[319]
The lag is happening to me no matter where I am. It's been getting worse since the patch. In station, in mission, doesn't matter. It's getting unbearable. It was so bad yesterday that I actually entertained thoughts of not playing until the next patch.
And my local averages between 1-4 players during my online time.
Originally by: welsh wizard
stupid falcon pilots uncloak all the time coz they think they need to surface for air.
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Cyxopyc
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Posted - 2008.04.04 18:29:00 -
[320]
NVidia GeForce4 Ti 4200
Big time drop in FPS since the trinity patch where it wasn't a problem before. In view of planets/moons sounds right but I haven't checked this. I do know the lag continues while in warp and at my destination. It also appears to contribute to an occasional out of the blue system reboot.
If I alt-return the lag disappears and my FPS returns to what is normal for me.
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Support fixing the EVE UI |
Duvida
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Posted - 2008.04.05 04:11:00 -
[321]
Recon 1 of 3 (2nd level mission) with Guristas results in about a minute of frozen screen / FPS of 0 for a minute when they lock on and fire missiles. Can result in ship loss. I hope this fix eases this issue as well...
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Dionisius
The Circle
STYX.
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Posted - 2008.04.05 13:51:00 -
[322]
Have you folks tried out runing eve with minimal graphics loaded and started climbing up the graphical options until you reach the problem?
Like starting in classic - > min / med / high options with log server on and taking screens, then proceeding to Premium ( in case everything goes well in classic ) , and repeating the process?
Maybe its some graphical option that is got screwed over the new patch.
Btw how many of you play with sound on? And if so what soundcard do you have?
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I am the destroyer of worlds and the also the cokie thief. |
Kuzya Morozov
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Posted - 2008.04.05 23:31:00 -
[323]
What about running 2 clients and having one crash inevitably after some period of time? I know some other people have this issue, is this due to a memory leak? It is impossible to run 2 clients at the same time now.
Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. |
Back Again
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.04.06 00:03:00 -
[324]
Just putting my name in this list as I'm with serious problems with FPS, sometimes freezing the screen for 20-30 seconds (mostly during missions where NPC BCs and destroyers start shooting my ship - no problems if there are only BS, cruisers or frigs).
I'm running classic graphics cuz with premium I can't run more than 1 account, and doing that since Trinity was deployed and I saw the huge FPS drops with multiple accounts using premium. Now, even using classic, I'm getting these intense FPS drops, reaching 0 (zero) FPS (meaning freezings, OFC).
No signature here,
only the bright light of a ship
exploding right in front of me...
Ohhh, wait, I'm in a pod!!
It was my ship!!! |
TheRealBanana1
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2008.04.06 07:07:00 -
[325]
Edited by: TheRealBanana1 on 06/04/2008 07:07:42
Originally by: Back Again
Just putting my name in this list as I'm with serious problems with FPS, sometimes freezing the screen for 20-30 seconds (mostly during missions where NPC BCs and destroyers start shooting my ship - no problems if there are only BS, cruisers or frigs).
I'm running classic graphics cuz with premium I can't run more than 1 account, and doing that since Trinity was deployed and I saw the huge FPS drops with multiple accounts using premium. Now, even using classic, I'm getting these intense FPS drops, reaching 0 (zero) FPS (meaning freezings, OFC).
That reminds me, my friend has a low-end PC, and after his trial ended he decided that he wouldn't buy another month. His reason was that the game just didn't run well at all on his PC, even on Classic (extremely low fps, sputtering, and sometimes complete freezes and DC's during fights). I assumed that his PC just just too crappy. I never knew that the patch effected Classic too. C'mon CCP your loosing business because of this. =/
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Moneeh
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2008.04.06 14:43:00 -
[326]
bumping in the hope this will be fixed sooner
yea right . . .
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Cythrawl
Central Defiance
Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.04.06 15:00:00 -
[327]
10:1 odds a fix isn't going to happen until after 4/13/08. I expect they'll wait to see if all the stuff that's supposed to get removed by the item tracker prog gets removed or causes eve to spontaneously explode.
Makes me cry, because I've sat almost a full month without much I can do until they fix it. Sure, I could throw money at the problem and get a completely new computer, but I'm not that rich that I can do it every time the coders break something.
I've got a corp to run, an alliance to contribute to, and fleets to lead to their doom, all of which I'm not right now because of this. I've got like 2 systems in the entire game I've found I can somewhat manage to be in without wanting to stab myself and all I can do is kill rats in them. Wanna see the reach of my desperation for game play? I nearly opened a WoW account last week because I was so bored... (I should mention, to top off this month's worth of not playing eve, my xbox 360 burnt out its video card... So now I have to contact Microsoft and send it off to get fixed as well......)
Fate, ye be a cruel mistress.
.:.
Originally by: Krazy Bitsch
Originally by: Virtuality
In before the first troll.
i do believe you are too late for this.... |
Cutter Isaacson
Hollow World Mining Corporation
QUANT Hegemony
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Posted - 2008.04.06 15:38:00 -
[328]
Edited by: Cutter Isaacson on 06/04/2008 15:39:11
For those of you NOT pointlessly whining, please ignore this post.
Originally by: Aknecep
Im a trolling tw4t
I hate stooping to this level.
Some of us get lag because our PC spec's differ from those that the game was designed to run on. Some of us experiance jittery graphics and low FPS for the same reason, and the rest suffer from both because CCP can't cater for absolutely every possible problem that may or may not arise from patches.
They know there are issues, they ARE working on them. How do I know this? Do I have friends in CCP? No. I know this because WE are the ones who keep them gainfully employed and as such they will want to keep us happy and keep us playing.
P.S Would the complainers like some cheese to go with their whine?
P.P.S I am also experiencing glitches, bugs, lag and the occassional disconnect, FYI.
"The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible." - Arthur C Clarke R.I.P
"There just aren't enough bullets to go around..." H. |
Amar'u Deltmartuk
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Posted - 2008.04.06 18:08:00 -
[329]
I almost never read the forums. I just found this, and I'm glad I'm not the only one with this problem.
I running XP Pro on 2.2GHz Merom with 3GB RAM and 7200rpm HDD. Graphics is the Intel X3100 (yeah yeah I know) but Classic should play just fine (as HL2 does).
In fact with Trinity 1.0 Classic I was averaging about 30fps and dropping to 15fps with spacedust/fog. Post- 1.1 Boost Patch, in normal space I'm now averaging about 15fps and it turns into a slideshow when I'm in a fog/dust filled deadspace. I haven't tried reinstalling the game yet but that'll be a last resort since I don't want to lose my chat settings etc.
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Gontard
E-Truth
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Posted - 2008.04.06 22:03:00 -
[330]
From 42k-44k on sundays here we go to 32-34k.
Related ? I'm sure. Maybe not 100% for a big percentage for sure.
It's been a month and i'm more and more amazed.
I don't know if you understanded it yet CCP but this is major game breaking stuff.
I hope you wake up until it's not to late.
Game is FULL of bugs and you waste resources on nothing like ambulation and other cosmetic garbage.
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Kusha'an
Equinox Industrial Co.
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Posted - 2008.04.07 00:34:00 -
[331]
Originally by: Cutter Isaacson
Edited by: Cutter Isaacson on 06/04/2008 15:39:11
For those of you NOT pointlessly whining, please ignore this post.
Originally by: Aknecep
Im a trolling tw4t
I hate stooping to this level.
Some of us get lag because our PC spec's differ from those that the game was designed to run on. Some of us experiance jittery graphics and low FPS for the same reason, and the rest suffer from both because CCP can't cater for absolutely every possible problem that may or may not arise from patches.
They know there are issues, they ARE working on them. How do I know this? Do I have friends in CCP? No. I know this because WE are the ones who keep them gainfully employed and as such they will want to keep us happy and keep us playing.
P.S Would the complainers like some cheese to go with their whine?
P.P.S I am also experiencing glitches, bugs, lag and the occassional disconnect, FYI.
Was there a point to your post? Because I read it twice and I still can't find it.
Originally by: welsh wizard
stupid falcon pilots uncloak all the time coz they think they need to surface for air.
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Farrqua
Turbo Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.04.07 14:19:00 -
[332]
Edited by: Farrqua on 07/04/2008 14:19:04
Originally by: Dionisius
Btw how many of you play with sound on? And if so what soundcard do you have?
There is no "sound" in eve.
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Dionisius
The Circle
STYX.
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Posted - 2008.04.07 16:39:00 -
[333]
Originally by: Farrqua
Edited by: Farrqua on 07/04/2008 14:19:04
Originally by: Dionisius
Btw how many of you play with sound on? And if so what soundcard do you have?
There is no "sound" in eve.
I like to turn it on from time to time when i am npcing.
Strangely i noticed that sometimes, and especially with the new client , the Audigy drivers seem to get screwed up only in EvE.
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Vancali
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Posted - 2008.04.07 22:32:00 -
[334]
Originally by: Dionisius
Have you folks tried out runing eve with minimal graphics loaded and started climbing up the graphical options until you reach the problem?
Like starting in classic - > min / med / high options with log server on and taking screens, then proceeding to Premium ( in case everything goes well in classic ) , and repeating the process?
Maybe its some graphical option that is got screwed over the new patch.
Btw how many of you play with sound on? And if so what soundcard do you have?
Psst... it's not our settings dood, it's the rendering of the moons and/or planets. Check this post and this post out. Either way, the client has been unplayable since last month and I'm getting a little annoyed at paying for 3 subscriptions to keep skills going until they patch it. Ah well, is only a game that takes my money.
/end game
/begin rl
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LobbyZombie
Loc-Nar Support Services
DO JAJA Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.08 00:00:00 -
[335]
Sorry but your rl is broken :( Although there is another Spacebased MMO which you can play while the DT is on (hope CCP won't ban me for this)
www.darkspace.net quite a nifty game .. been playing on it and it's nice .. Been here on the internet since 2001 - 2002 so yea :P Quite old
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Vancali
Khaos Heavy Industries
Sylph Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.08 01:43:00 -
[336]
Originally by: LobbyZombie
Sorry but your rl is broken :( Although there is another Spacebased MMO which you can play while the DT is on (hope CCP won't ban me for this)
www.darkspace.net quite a nifty game .. been playing on it and it's nice .. Been here on the internet since 2001 - 2002 so yea :P Quite old
Yeah, I've played Darkspace. It's not all that good anyway. Can only fly on one plane and if you don't have the biggest ship, you are fodder. Not that great imo.
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RHunterr
Ardent Industrial
Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.08 12:30:00 -
[337]
Fix this now CCP! It's been long enough!
/getting close to canceling two accounts
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Lordus Mark
RDK Trusting Holders
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Posted - 2008.04.08 21:45:00 -
[338]
Edited by: Lordus Mark on 08/04/2008 21:46:33
see it here
Originally by: CCP Explorer
Originally by: Andresky
Any update on a possible release?
It's going to be very soon now, expect a news item in the next few days.
it seems its going to be sooner then first annoucement made us think.
hopefully.
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Kuzya Morozov
The Older Gamers
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.04.09 00:24:00 -
[339]
Just discovered why I can't run 2 clients, X1950pro heats up to 95C with case cover off and fan at 100%, non-premium clients (used to be 80C with 2 clients on premium settings, case all put together, fan not blowing full speed)...
...in short, please fix this before I bust my computer :(
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Alex Under
Eternity INC.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2008.04.15 20:25:00 -
[340]
Still having FPS problems if I try to run multiple clients... problem has not been fixed. Tried several different graphic settings. And also having whiteout problems as well.
AMD Athlon 3800+
2 GB RAM
Windows XP (SP 2)
NVidia GeForce 7300 GT
Windowed Mode in 1600 x 1050
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Gartanus
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.04.15 21:51:00 -
[341]
I am sorry to here some are still having FPS problems. I must just be lucky. After the first patch my FPS dropped to between 6 and 11 FPS. Now, its up to around 17 and 25 FPS. Thanks CCP. Now, I am not b####### or flameing you ccp, I would just like to know why the jumping windows could not be fixed in this patch?
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Elsinaril
CHON
Aphelion.
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Posted - 2008.04.15 22:19:00 -
[342]
Still ridicullous FPS, still whiteouts here.
The patch havent fixed this at all.
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Darko Minoa
Star Frontiers
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Posted - 2008.04.16 02:12:00 -
[343]
Downloaded patch no problem. Still the same FPS as before. Just bad.
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Thraxon
Black-Sun
Pitch Black Legion
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Posted - 2008.04.16 08:49:00 -
[344]
This patch fixed it for me. FPS is back to normal rates.
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Lucas Edge
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.04.16 11:36:00 -
[345]
Patched fixed it for me too. My old Inspiron 8200 with a 64mb Nvidia 440 GO video card used to chug like crazy since Trinity and even worse with patch 1.1. Now with 1.2 it's back to pre-trinity speeds as long as all settings are at the absolute lowest.
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Dreadmuppet Four
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Posted - 2008.04.16 11:51:00 -
[346]
patch fixed it for me - thank you CCP, I was just getting ready to give up if it didn't fix it
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Cown
Caldari
Xenophobes
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Posted - 2008.04.16 12:02:00 -
[347]
160 - 200 fps in space now, thx.
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Kusha'an
Gallente
Equinox Industrial Co.
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Posted - 2008.04.16 12:16:00 -
[348]
I get lag during a mission as soon as the other ships all aggro. Maybe I should adjust my cache?
Originally by: welsh wizard
stupid falcon pilots uncloak all the time coz they think they need to surface for air.
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The Slayer
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.04.16 12:55:00 -
[349]
10 FPS in station. Afraid to undock since its bound to be worse. I dunno what you did CCP but undid it please.
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Para Bela
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Posted - 2008.04.16 13:50:00 -
[350]
No problems here... 50-100+FPS in all situations, game runs like a charm even in heavily populated systems.
Core2DuoE6750, 2 Gigs RAM, ATI3870, XP.
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Zeoliter
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.04.16 14:11:00 -
[351]
Can now run two accounts, no lag. Was getting terrible lag and whiteouts before but this patch has fixed it for me. If you're still having this issue maybe try a clean reinstall. |
F90OEX
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Posted - 2008.04.16 15:16:00 -
[352]
Come guys.. what's this ? 12 pages of about 75% of the people here state they have poor FPS, choppy game play, this list goes on ..
That 75% don't even post there computer system info. When is the last time you cleared all that **** from your 1GB hard drive, defraged your computer, updated your drivers, again the list goes on. That's not CCP fault.
While I admit CCP have alot of things to deal with, you can't expect them to keep improving Eve, adding patches, add-ons etc.. and the program to take up the same amount of ram, HD and resources. In the PC gaming world, this is how its been since PCs have come out.
Yep bash me all you want, but over the last year I hear people on TS complain about the same problems as in this thread. So just me been curious i'd ask them what kinda computer there playing eve on... "ahhhh errr well I think we bought the computer in 2001, I think its a 486, with a celeron cpu or something".
But yet they expect to get optimal performance and everything EVE has to offer..
PC games are a hobby for me, and just like most hobbies they have a cost. Your going to spend several hours playing Eve a week, no reason to not invest into a gaming PC, or upgrade your computer if you can. Heck even a clean install of windows can work with updated drivers.
With Max settings I get outside the station 110 fps, in a battle average 60-70fps easy.
Intel Core2 Quad QX6700 CPU
Nvidia 8800GTX
NVIDIA nForce 680i Motherboard
4GB Ram
1.5TB (3 Hard drives )
XtremeGamer Fatal1ty Professional Series sound card
Windows XP SP3
24" Widescreen flat panel
3 Programs I use and like.
O&O Defrag
TuneUp Utilities 2008
CCleaner
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Kusha'an
Gallente
Equinox Industrial Co.
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Posted - 2008.04.16 16:25:00 -
[353]
Ok, I have lag during missions.
My system specs are as follows:
Athlon 64 X2 dual core
4GB Ram DDR2 800mhz FSB
GeForce 8500GT graphics card
Biostar TF550 Motherboard
So what's the answer, smart guy?
Originally by: welsh wizard
stupid falcon pilots uncloak all the time coz they think they need to surface for air.
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Alan Peterson
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Posted - 2008.04.16 17:56:00 -
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Edited by: Alan Peterson on 16/04/2008 18:02:48
thank you ccp. my terrible fps issue has been resolved as of the new patch update. I never got screaming frame rates anyway but i can except 20-30 fps in space over 3fps any day.
ohh and to the guy that talks all about cleaning up your system... good for you. people should be reminded to do that. However ccp did have a valid problem and provided a valid fix for alot of people
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Brutal Psycho
Amarr
East Khanid Trading
Khanid Trade Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.04.16 19:38:00 -
[355]
Thank you CCP. You have fixed my FPS issues. I was able to play and enjoy it last night. Huzzah! |
Pteranodon
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Posted - 2008.04.17 10:23:00 -
[356]
I run the updated client on a very powerful computer, a Quad core 9650 watercooled & overclocked to 4GHz with a 8800GTX water cooled graphics card. What is the significance of this. I will tell you-temperature. Since the 1.2 update the temperature of my entire system has risen by 5 degrees celcius-this is a massive increase for a water cooled system. I now see jagged artifacts around normally straight lines on the station structures in space. Something has happened to the graphics with the patch & if it is noticeable on a state of the art computer I pity the guys & girls forced to run the client on lesser hardware.
The issue I dint like about Eve is that you cant go back to an earlier client which means that if there is a wide issue you cant go back to a client which proved stable. I have not noticed a performance hit because of the power of my hardware but I'm certain the new patch has put the hardware under increased pressure & that is not good for everybody.
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Pteranodon
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Posted - 2008.04.17 10:32:00 -
[357]
Edited by: Pteranodon on 17/04/2008 10:38:13
Originally by: Aknecep
duo core 2 2.3Ghz Intel CPU
2 Gigs ddr3 RAM
NVIDIA 8800 GT viddy
Aureal 3D soundcard
23" high def LCD
600watt power
whatever
I run the premium graphics at high definition resolution and get never less than 50fps... WTF are you people talking about???
I do get a 2sec freeze when I am coming out of warp to a base or stargate with or without anybody there and when I'm undocking from a base but I believe it's just an effort to make sure my ship/character placement remains consistent as I move to and from content servers or something...
I never lag in this game... ever... it's freaking awesome...
unplayable FPS? That sounds bizarre and ridiculous... I've never ever experienced anything like that but I'm a brand new player just started March 13th or so. I'd reevaluate my rig if I were you people. Or maybe you could get a geek squad geek to go look at how jacked up your OS is from your abuse and why your devices don't communicate well to games taking advantage of DX9 or some such nonsense and then overcharge you for the idiot FIXEVERYTHINGIM2LAZYTOFIGUREITOUT reinstall of Windows or some stupid crap so you can play the game normally (as I do) I dunno... Very weird all the bitshing about something I don't experience AT ALL in the game and so I'm being kind of an ass here obviously (I know!) but it's cuz I'm certain that 90% of the ppl in here aren't near as computer literate as they think that they are and half the issue is prolly due to your incompetence in regards to your OS and hardware setup... I mean I have a pretty average or slightly above average computer and I can run this 5 yr old game like a knife through warm butter. I'm an IT professional and networking dude so maybe it's cuz I know how to keep my computer inline with changing software demands or something like I don't delete files when I don't know what they are and I don't do something to my PC unless I know wtf I'm doing? Could be... I have an idea... do like the rest of the monkeys and just play idiot (cater to the lowest common denominator) console games so you don't have to worry about PC games which will always be better than console games... if you don't think so you are one of those monkeys and should go save yourself some stress and sell your PC games now <---*warning* this rant contains gross simplifications included and relied on in order to make a point that no one but game developers might appreciate in this string *discretion advised*
Hi,
you make interesting observations. I am also an IT professional with a lot of experience & come from a customer focused IT enviroment. There are just too many posts on this issue to be a problem with everbodies computer. The most pertinent observation which people are making is that there computers ran fine before the patch. If the client ran fine before the patch then it is not a maintenance or low hardware performance issue. The sheer number of people posting rings an alarm bell that something is not quite right so we should not be so judgemental or make comments like WTF. We all pay CCP for the right to play this amazing game & it is right & proper to alert CCP to a potential issue. |
Depopulo
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Posted - 2008.04.17 12:29:00 -
[358]
definite improvement to FPS..thumbs up |
Jocca Quinn
Matari BackBone
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Posted - 2008.04.17 13:58:00 -
[359]
This is all very odd, after the Trinity 1.1 patch I had no issues with fps at all, the numbers had not changed since the major Trinity patch.
I was getting about 25-35 fps on two windowed accounts with the classic client in even the largest lvl4 missions, which I found perfectly acceptable.
However, since the 1.2 patch I am now getting under 10 fps in the same missions. The only thing I have noticed is that wreck's now "twinkle" more than I remember and that once the wrecks are cleared the fps picks back up.
Intel P4 820 dual core
3 GB RAM
Win Xp Pro
Nvidia 7600 GT with latest Nvidia drivers
I can quite honestly say that this has ONLY happened since Tuesdays patch.
Does anyone have any suggestions ?
JQ
none of us are free
as long as one of us is chained
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imnotanalt
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Posted - 2008.04.17 15:23:00 -
[360]
I sometimes get FPS drops when I have shadows on and place the camera at a certain angle in space, usually near a stargate/planet. The FPS will drop from around 100 to less than 20, if I move the camera 1 degree to anywhere, the FPS will jump back to 100, if I move the camera back, the FPS drops again.
Anyone else have the same issue?
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Fortune X
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Posted - 2008.04.17 17:16:00 -
[361]
Edited by: Fortune X on 17/04/2008 17:25:38
Help me! In Eve Premium, my fps stays within 40 to 80 and bounces to 7 about every 10 seconds. I know many blame the patch, but in my case is there anything i can do that might help smooth it out a bit? maybe disable some settings or something...
My laptop setup is:
2.412ghz AMD Turion(tm) 64 ML-44
2x 1gb DDR ram PC3200 (200 MHz)
GeForce Go 7900 GS 256mb.
thanks in advance.
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Saarin
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Posted - 2008.04.17 17:39:00 -
[362]
I have found eve very unstable running 2 clients since 1.2. I can barely run 2 clients simultaneously while in revelations I could run 3 (all windowed)
Sometimes running 2 windowed clients runs fairly well, others I get 1 client at 35+ fps the other at 3... Shut them both down restart and I may get whichever is the active window at 60... Got Windows errors at least half a dozen times last night, running premium gfx, tonight I am going to try running classic, such a shame.
I have had a couple of cases where EVE locks up the whole pc, my screen goes all screwy and the only way to fix is to hardboot.
XP SP2
E6600
8800 GTS 320 @ 1920x1080
4 gb memory
xfi sound card
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sevennineeightsix
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Posted - 2008.04.19 00:55:00 -
[363]
Originally by: Fortune X
Edited by: Fortune X on 17/04/2008 17:25:38
Help me! In Eve Premium, my fps stays within 40 to 80 and bounces to 7 about every 10 seconds. I know many blame the patch, but in my case is there anything i can do that might help smooth it out a bit? maybe disable some settings or something...
My laptop setup is:
2.412ghz AMD Turion(tm) 64 ML-44
2x 1gb DDR ram PC3200 (200 MHz)
GeForce Go 7900 GS 256mb.
thanks in advance.
Update: The EXACT same things happen when i run eve in classic. The fps stays at 80+ and regularly dips down to about 5-7, this happens every 5-10 seconds. FPS dips more frequently when in missions.
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Alex Under
0utbreak
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Posted - 2008.04.30 05:11:00 -
[364]
Bump.
CCP, Could we get an update on this issue please? Alot of us are still having lots of problems with the new client since Trinity 1.1 patch which was over a month ago now.
Thanks!
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