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Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
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Posted - 2012.02.22 18:12:00 -
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Although this guy is a troll, i'd like to add something.
These people aren't special at all. Nope. Nada. In no way.
We don't see hundreds of threads popping up about this, we don't have a threadnaught about it, actually it seems that people do not give a **** ...
... hence: They aren't special.
The only one perceiving them as special is you, hence the issue is with you.
Yeah, sounds like you're probably jelly ... but who cares, you're not special either and you won't feel better after trying to make everybody as "equal" as you are.
/Thread.
Edit: Oh, others beat me to it already. *lol* Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |
Schmacos tryne
Norsk Testosteron
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Posted - 2012.02.22 18:12:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Quote:The problem is: There are elements in this game which is not available to all players. Why is that a problem?
Read on (You could have saved some internet space)....
Tippia wrote:Quote:Why this is a problem: It's the principal of the matter. Not enough. In fact, the whole game is built around some people having stuff others can't have. Moreover, if that's your supposed principle, why are you going after the most meaningless (non)example GÇö the one that causes absolutely no issues for anyone whatsoever? So no, again: why is it a problem?
I understand that you are all for fight for it or loose it mentality. However this "causes non issue" is a perfect example since it just illustrates the point.
You are wrong. The game is build on a fundation that what you don't have you steal, take or work for. So tell me all knowing tirpia: How do I go about doing this regarding a carrier in Hi-Sec?
Don't worry you don't need to answer. Ultimately, I agree that the strong should be rewarded and the week needs to get stronger. I do however not agree that certain privileges are in place or will come in place which strengthen the already strong to a point where the sovreighnty cannot be challanged. Now that's not very butterfly'ish is it.
I worry more on what's to come than what has passed even thoug the past should be cleaned up. |
Schmacos tryne
Norsk Testosteron
15
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Posted - 2012.02.22 18:16:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Schmacos tryne wrote:Doc Fury wrote: Confirming the OP's "crap" is simple jealousy, a.k.a. epeen envy.
You are not confirming anything. I have made several statements that the solution to this particular problem is to move them to losec. GǪwhich doesn't change the fact the GǣcrapGǥ you're referring to is simple jealousy, and that you've pretty much confirmed it yourself at this point. You are completely unable to explain what the problem is without referring to this jealousy of yours.
So, if you put something on the agenda, it is 100% sure it's because of personal jealousy... Small minded even for you.
I have said countless times, I don't want a carrier in hi-sec I only want them removed to low on a principal matter. The principal being they are not supposed to be there but CCP are too weak to do anything about it. |
baltec1
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Posted - 2012.02.22 18:17:00 -
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Schmacos tryne wrote:
You are wrong. The game is build on a fundation that what you don't have you steal, take or work for. So tell me all knowing tirpia: How do I go about doing this regarding a carrier in Hi-Sec?
High sec caps have changed hands a few times. Its just the same as other rare ships such as the state issue raven and guardian-vexor.
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Velvet Eva
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.22 18:20:00 -
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It seems to be pretty clear that the only one who has a problem with this is the OP.
What are you hoping to accomplish with this? Since you are the only one who seems to be in favour of this change, this thread will accomplish absolutely nothing. |
Schmacos tryne
Norsk Testosteron
15
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Posted - 2012.02.22 18:20:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:Although this guy is a troll, i'd like to add something.
These people aren't special at all. Nope. Nada. In no way.
We don't see hundreds of threads popping up about this, we don't have a threadnaught about it, actually it seems that people do not give a **** ...
... hence: They aren't special.
The only one perceiving them as special is you, hence the issue is with you.
Yeah, sounds like you're probably jelly ... but who cares, you're not special either and you won't feel better after trying to make everybody as "equal" as you are.
/Thread.
Edit: Oh, others beat me to it already. *lol*
So exactly how is it possible to bring up something here without it being the "likes thread" or the pony stuff and get a message through?? Without being personally accused for jealousy??? Well your post shows you can't.
But I'll do it anyway just bacause I can. |
Schmacos tryne
Norsk Testosteron
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Posted - 2012.02.22 18:21:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Schmacos tryne wrote:
You are wrong. The game is build on a fundation that what you don't have you steal, take or work for. So tell me all knowing tirpia: How do I go about doing this regarding a carrier in Hi-Sec?
High sec caps have changed hands a few times. Its just the same as other rare ships such as the state issue raven and guardian-vexor.
How? According to the "special" rules you are not allowed to trade these items? |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
5025
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Posted - 2012.02.22 18:23:00 -
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Schmacos tryne wrote:Read on (You could have saved some internet space).... You didn't notice that reading on didn't answer the question, i take it? Your supposed principle is something you've invented; its applicability is quite questionable; and you're actually arguing against your principle for some odd reason.
Quote:I understand that you are all for fight for it or loose it mentality. However this "causes non issue" is a perfect example since it just illustrates the point. What point is that?
Quote:I do however not agree that certain privileges are in place or will come in place which strengthen the already strong to a point where the sovreighnty cannot be challanged. What privileges are those? What's the strength given to some but not to others? You're not making any sense man GÇö we're talking about highsec capitals here, which do nothing of what you just described.
Quote:I worry more on what's to come than what has passed even thoug the past should be cleaned up. Why? What's the problem? Oh, and no, the past should never be GÇ£cleaned upGÇ¥ GÇö it should be put on display and be remembered, warts and all. Even so, we're still talking about highsec capitals here, so what on earth is there to GÇ£clean upGÇ¥?
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
baltec1
653
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Posted - 2012.02.22 18:24:00 -
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Schmacos tryne wrote:baltec1 wrote:Schmacos tryne wrote:
You are wrong. The game is build on a fundation that what you don't have you steal, take or work for. So tell me all knowing tirpia: How do I go about doing this regarding a carrier in Hi-Sec?
High sec caps have changed hands a few times. Its just the same as other rare ships such as the state issue raven and guardian-vexor. How? According to the "special" rules you are not allowed to trade these items?
You cant sell them.
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Doc Fury
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
396
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Posted - 2012.02.22 18:27:00 -
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Schmacos tryne wrote: So exactly how is it possible to bring up something here without it being the "likes thread" or the pony stuff and get a message through?? Without being personally accused for jealousy?
O.K. This thread is now about Zambonis.
http://www.tabletpcbuzz.com/forum/uploaded/WNewquay/20044227751_zamboni1.jpg
http://www.toxel.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/zamboni05.jpg
http://www.toxel.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/zamboni03.jpg The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'no.' |
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
5026
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Posted - 2012.02.22 18:29:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Schmacos tryne wrote:How? According to the "special" rules you are not allowed to trade these items? You cant sell them. GǪand here's the question to the OP, if we are to pick one of the assorted principles strewn around and say that the problem is that not everyone can get their hands on a highsec capital: why aren't you saying they should rescind this silly rule, so you can buy one?
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
Schmacos tryne
Norsk Testosteron
15
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Posted - 2012.02.22 18:29:00 -
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Velvet Eva wrote:It seems to be pretty clear that the only one who has a problem with this is the OP.
What are you hoping to accomplish with this? Since you are the only one who seems to be in favour of this change, this thread will accomplish absolutely nothing.
Good question.
I bet you wish that sometimes there would be someone who took the bull by the horns and adressed certain problems which usually is 'shusshed' down when it comes to politics.
I am that "someone" and I am adressing the problem in a metaphorical sence.
IF CCP acknowledged it was a misstake and unintentional to keep a small hand of unintended cap's in Hi and actually do something about it..... What does this mean
Well for one, it would mean that they preferr to be seen as a company which provides a game which offers the same to all who wishes and chooses to pay for it. Secondly it means any future descicions regarding gameplay changes will be made cut throat precises and no more fooling around.
Last but not least, it would be a clear message to everyone that in this game, CCP makes the rules and that no "democratic elected" player counsil may affect the execution of gameplay changes.
As it is today I do not trust CCP to do this in a proper way and I demand that they show their alegiance is towards all players and not some few. |
baltec1
654
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Posted - 2012.02.22 18:31:00 -
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Tippia wrote: GǪand here's the question to the OP, if we are to pick one of the assorted principles strewn around and say that the problem is that not everyone can get their hands on a highsec capital: why aren't you saying they should rescind this silly rule, so you can buy one?
I would like to see that rule go simply to see what people are willing to offer chrib for the veldnought. |
Schmacos tryne
Norsk Testosteron
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Posted - 2012.02.22 18:33:00 -
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Seriously made ma laugh hahaha!" |
Schmacos tryne
Norsk Testosteron
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Posted - 2012.02.22 18:34:00 -
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Tippia wrote:baltec1 wrote:Schmacos tryne wrote:How? According to the "special" rules you are not allowed to trade these items? You cant sell them. GǪand here's the question to the OP, if we are to pick one of the assorted principles strewn around and say that the problem is that not everyone can get their hands on a highsec capital: why aren't you saying they should rescind this silly rule, so you can buy one?
Bacause you don't understand the fact that I don't want one. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
5026
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Posted - 2012.02.22 18:36:00 -
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Schmacos tryne wrote:I bet you wish that sometimes there would be someone who took the bull by the horns and adressed certain problems which usually is 'shusshed' down when it comes to politics. I wish that sometimes, people who took the bull by the horns explained what problems they were trying to solveGǪ
Quote:IF CCP acknowledged it was a misstake and unintentional to keep a small hand of unintended cap's in Hi and actually do something about it. GǪand that's a big if because the question remains: why would they do that? It's not like it actually was a mistake or unintentional.
Quote:As it is today I do not trust CCP to do this in a proper way and I demand that they show their alegiance is towards all players and not some few. They can do that by simply not listening to youGǪ vOv
Quote:Bacause you don't understand the fact that I don't want one. Whether you want one or not is irrelevant. It's about applying your invented principle. Are you now saying that you don't want to do that either? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
baltec1
654
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Posted - 2012.02.22 18:39:00 -
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Time for some shameless campaigning |
Schmacos tryne
Norsk Testosteron
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Posted - 2012.02.22 18:48:00 -
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Tippia wrote:I wish that sometimes, people who took the bull by the horns explained what problems they were trying to solveGǪ
Maybee you are not looking at it from the right angle. It is not my responsibility to change your view, so you can disregard this as "I don't get it" and leave it with that.
Tippia wrote:GǪand that's a big if because the question remains: why would they do that? It's not like it actually was a mistake or unintentional.
Simple, Otherwise they woudn't bother moving the production to low sec and stopping these types of ships enter high sec. But they messed it up as usual. They lach the strength to rectify this misstake
Tippia wrote:They can do that by simply not listening to youGǪ vOv
They should listen to themselves. not me, definately not you and for hell not to any elected puebevoice "representing the community". I Want to see CCP take action and show they are not pushovers.
Tippia wrote:Whether you want one or not is irrelevant. It's about applying your invented principle. Are you now saying that you don't want to do that either?
What are you talking about? Maybee you should try to calm the hell down and write coherently.
Ill write slowly so you might get it:
#1: I D O N ' T W A N T A C A R R I E R I N H I G H - S E C #2: But I disagree that they are present as they constitute a fovourable standing towards a small group of players from CCP's side. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
1027
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Posted - 2012.02.22 18:54:00 -
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Why would that address the "problem" (that no one see's but you) when the tools to deal with the issue are already available in game?
Gather your imaginary support and gank those carriers (it is certainly doable... if you have enough people drinking your kool Aid).
Better yet, scam them and self destruct or move them to low sec yourself.
It's hard to impress people with 'grabbing the bull by the horns" when the bull in question is actually a stuffed animal with horns made of felt.
People like you are the justification for my sig: When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
Doc Fury
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
396
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Posted - 2012.02.22 18:56:00 -
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Schmacos tryne wrote: #1: I D O N ' T W A N T O T H E R S T O H A V E A C A R R I E R I N H I G H - S E C B E C A U S E I C A N ' T H A V E O N E #2: But I disagree that they are present as they constitute a fovourable meaningless standing towards a small group of players from CCP's side.
FYP The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'no.' |
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Schmacos tryne
Norsk Testosteron
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Posted - 2012.02.22 18:57:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:Why would that address the "problem" (that no one see's but you) when the tools to deal with the issue are already available in game?
Gather your imaginary support and gank those carriers (it is certainly doable... if you have enough people drinking your kool Aid).
Better yet, scam them and self destruct or move them to low sec yourself.
It's hard to impress people with 'grabbing the bull by the horns" when the bull in question is actually a stuffed animal with horns made of felt.
People like you are the justification for my sig:
Simply bacuse it's CCP's job not mine.
On a personal note: Your "sig" is lame. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
5026
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Posted - 2012.02.22 18:59:00 -
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Schmacos tryne wrote:Maybee you are not looking at it from the right angle. It is not my responsibility to change your view, so you can disregard this as "I don't get it" and leave it with that. Actually, it is your responsibility: you're the one arguing for the change.
Quote:Simple, Otherwise they woudn't bother moving the production to low sec and stopping these types of ships enter high sec. GǪwhich doesn't mean that leaving some behind is a mistake or unintentional. You're drawing awfully big conclusions based on a few changes, completely disregarding the fact that the intended effects are in place and fulfilled. So no, it's not like it was a mistake or unintentional.
Quote:What are you talking about? I'm talking about the fact that rescinding the GÇ£no sellingGÇ¥ rule so you can buy one would be the simplest application of your invented principle that everyone should be able to get their hands on one. I'm asking you why you are against rescinding the one rule that makes this happen, contrary to your principled stance.
Quote:#1: I D O N ' T W A N T A C A R R I E R I N H I G H - S E C Irrelevant. Do you want to apply your principle or not?
Quote:#2: But I disagree that they are present as they constitute a fovourable standing towards a small group of players from CCP's side. GǪand the question remains: why is that a problem? It provides exactly zero benefit, and isn't particularly tied to any specific person. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
Schmacos tryne
Norsk Testosteron
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Posted - 2012.02.22 19:00:00 -
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Doc Fury wrote:Schmacos tryne wrote: #1: I D O N ' T W A N T O T H E R S T O H A V E A C A R R I E R I N H I G H - S E C B E C A U S E I C A N ' T H A V E O N E #2: But I disagree that they are present as they constitute a fovourable meaningless standing towards a small group of players from CCP's side.
FYP
For you: Meaningless in this context. But nevertheless Meaningless/favourable is still there, hence it's a problem in my book.
That noone agrees doesen't invalidate my concerns the slightest. You will see that most progressions throughout our RL history is made by those few who chose to stand outside mainstream and speak their mind. |
Mokokan
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2012.02.22 19:01:00 -
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Schmacos tryne wrote:
Last but not least, it would be a clear message to everyone that in this game, CCP makes the rules and that no "democratic elected" player counsil may affect the execution of gameplay changes.
As it is today I do not trust CCP to do this in a proper way and I demand that they show their alegiance is towards all players and not some few.
Now we're getting somewhere. You're not working up to a run for the CSM, you're working to crush the CSM. It might take us e few more pages to drag out of you what is really behind this whole idea. But, hey, that's half the fun. It would be too easy if it was only that Darius or Mittens ganked your hulk or your incursion boat. I'm sure it's more complicated than that. Maybe a bit of real life misfortune mixed in.
Seriously, if you're committed to this line of reasoning/attack, then by all means start a corp and build a following of like-minded individuals to advance your cause. Don't be afraid to start small. Goonswarm didn't start out with 7000 pilots.
But really, pick a better lynchpin for your efforts. The carrier thing is just a no-go. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
5026
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Posted - 2012.02.22 19:04:00 -
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Schmacos tryne wrote:That noone agrees doesen't invalidate my concerns the slightest. Actually it does, since your concern hinges on the notion that everyone should be treated equally. The problem here is that everyone says GǣnahGǪGǥ.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
baltec1
654
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Posted - 2012.02.22 19:04:00 -
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Schmacos tryne wrote:
For you: Meaningless in this context. But nevertheless Meaningless/favourable is still there, hence it's a problem in my book.
That noone agrees doesen't invalidate my concerns the slightest. You will see that most progressions throughout our RL history is made by those few who chose to stand outside mainstream and speak their mind.
It kinda does. |
Schmacos tryne
Norsk Testosteron
15
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Posted - 2012.02.22 19:05:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Quote:#2: But I disagree that they are present as they constitute a fovourable standing towards a small group of players from CCP's side. GǪand the question remains: why is that a problem? It provides exactly zero benefit, and isn't particularly tied to any specific person.
You question what problem a favourable standing from CCP towards a limited group poses?
Are you for real? |
Doc Fury
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
396
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Posted - 2012.02.22 19:06:00 -
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Schmacos tryne wrote: For you: Meaningless in this context. But nevertheless Meaningless/favourable is still there, hence it's a problem in my book.
That noone agrees doesen't invalidate my concerns the slightest. You will see that most progressions throughout our RL history is made by those few who chose to stand outside mainstream and speak their mind.
Your position impossible to sell when no one else agrees with you, including the people who make and enforce the rules.
And yes, history is full "my view is the only view" zealots.
"they didn't listen"
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'no.' |
Schmacos tryne
Norsk Testosteron
15
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Posted - 2012.02.22 19:08:00 -
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Mokokan wrote:Schmacos tryne wrote:
Last but not least, it would be a clear message to everyone that in this game, CCP makes the rules and that no "democratic elected" player counsil may affect the execution of gameplay changes.
As it is today I do not trust CCP to do this in a proper way and I demand that they show their alegiance is towards all players and not some few.
Now we're getting somewhere. You're not working up to a run for the CSM, you're working to crush the CSM. It might take us e few more pages to drag out of you what is really behind this whole idea. But, hey, that's half the fun. It would be too easy if it was only that Darius or Mittens ganked your hulk or your incursion boat. I'm sure it's more complicated than that. Maybe a bit of real life misfortune mixed in. Seriously, if you're committed to this line of reasoning/attack, then by all means start a corp and build a following of like-minded individuals to advance your cause. Don't be afraid to start small. Goonswarm didn't start out with 7000 pilots. But really, pick a better lynchpin for your efforts. The carrier thing is just a no-go.
Has nothing to do with the current CSM members.
I 'worry' about CCPs Bias. And I would enterprit it as a sign og control if the just ripped the roots out of something unpopular for once (distregarding the pony-story).
The fact that the carrier thing in fact is a no-go makes it the perfect target. |
Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
1378
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Posted - 2012.02.22 19:08:00 -
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You still have no point, as this group has no influence and can't do **** with their so called special rules.
It's a gift, that's it.
Equality is a poison nobody wants anyway.
*feeds the troll* *lol* Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |
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