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Dianeces Repo Industries R.E.P.O.	Posted - 2008.03.19 20:46:00 - [121] Originally by: Viral Shadow its been around for 4 years but not on the scale as it is these days Yulai. Zombie Inc.
Quelque Chose University of Caille	Posted - 2008.03.19 20:47:00 - [122] Originally by: Dianeces Originally by: Viral Shadow its been around for 4 years but not on the scale as it is these days Yulai. Zombie Inc. Dual- wield nerfbat/ bansaber'ed. ______________________________ "Eve Online is a massively multiplayer game about trolling in outer space."
Aprudena Gist GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.19 20:47:00 - [123] Originally by: Dianeces Originally by: Viral Shadow its been around for 4 years but not on the scale as it is these days Yulai. Zombie Inc. I dunno what this means and i dont really wanna read the wiki article on it so i'm gonna go with they didn't try to grief the entire high sec miner population
Dianeces Repo Industries R.E.P.O.	Posted - 2008.03.19 20:49:00 - [124] Originally by: Quelque Chose Dual- wield nerfbat/ bansaber'ed. Banned for ignoring GMs when they were told to stop, not the ganking in and of itself.
Havohej The Defias Brotherhood ANTHRAX DEATH	Posted - 2008.03.19 20:50:00 - [125] Originally by: Dianeces Nowhere is safe, etc., etc. You fail. This thread sucks. Can I haz ur stuffs? GB2WoW. ..... Did I miss anything? I lol'd IRL
Quelque Chose University of Caille	Posted - 2008.03.19 20:50:00 - [126] Originally by: Dianeces Originally by: Quelque Chose Dual- wield nerfbat/ bansaber'ed. Banned for ignoring GMs when they were told to stop, not the ganking in and of itself. po- TAY- toe po- TAH- toe ______________________________ "Eve Online is a massively multiplayer game about trolling in outer space."
CRUSH BOSS BigMek Industries GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.19 20:50:00 - [127] Edited by: CRUSH BOSS on 19/03/2008 20:50:40 "I love the smell of burning fur in the morning" We fight for the ONE - We die for the ONE Don't troll in your signature please. -Hango
Dianeces Repo Industries R.E.P.O.	Posted - 2008.03.19 20:50:00 - [128] Originally by: Quelque Chose Originally by: Dianeces Originally by: Quelque Chose Dual- wield nerfbat/ bansaber'ed. Banned for ignoring GMs when they were told to stop, not the ganking in and of itself. po- TAY- toe po- TAH- toe Not so much. Thanks for playing.
DOC PIC Verrage	Posted - 2008.03.19 20:51:00 - [129] My only issue on the whole Gonnie issue is that a hulk is uninsurable.. Please I dont care that im in a belt in high sec and a goonie arrives and start smart bombing. Its part of the game. My issue is that my hulk is uninsurable and is hard to fit a good tank long enough for him to get poped by concord. Now the suicider can get a full pay out and not much is lost. Just seems a little imbalanced in my eyes. Oh and before a forum warrior states be aligned , try to warp in a barge or hulk aligned with smart bonbs going off.
Dianeces Repo Industries R.E.P.O.	Posted - 2008.03.19 20:51:00 - [130] Originally by: DOC PIC My only issue on the whole Gonnie issue is that a hulk is uninsurable.. Please I dont care that im in a belt in high sec and a goonie arrives and start smart bombing. Its part of the game. My issue is that my hulk is uninsurable and is hard to fit a good tank long enough for him to get poped by concord. Now the suicider can get a full pay out and not much is lost. Just seems a little imbalanced in my eyes. Oh and before a forum warrior states be aligned , try to warp in a barge or hulk aligned with smart bonbs going off. You can insure Hulks.
Quelque Chose University of Caille	Posted - 2008.03.19 20:53:00 - [131] Originally by: Dianeces Not so much. Thanks for playing. LOL. First you try and suggest that a single incident shows that suicide ganks used to be as common as they are now and then you're going to try and do a "." maneuver on me over some petty rules- lawyering? Pffft. Thanks for playing indeed. ______________________________ "Eve Online is a massively multiplayer game about trolling in outer space."
DOC PIC Verrage	Posted - 2008.03.19 20:54:00 - [132] Originally by: Dianeces Originally by: DOC PIC My only issue on the whole Gonnie issue is that a hulk is uninsurable.. Please I dont care that im in a belt in high sec and a goonie arrives and start smart bombing. Its part of the game. My issue is that my hulk is uninsurable and is hard to fit a good tank long enough for him to get poped by concord. Now the suicider can get a full pay out and not much is lost. Just seems a little imbalanced in my eyes. Oh and before a forum warrior states be aligned , try to warp in a barge or hulk aligned with smart bonbs going off. You can insure Hulks. Yes with plat payout of about 1/3 the cost of a new one.
Havohej The Defias Brotherhood ANTHRAX DEATH	Posted - 2008.03.19 20:55:00 - [133] Originally by: Dianeces Originally by: DOC PIC My only issue on the whole Gonnie issue is that a hulk is uninsurable.. Please I dont care that im in a belt in high sec and a goonie arrives and start smart bombing. Its part of the game. My issue is that my hulk is uninsurable and is hard to fit a good tank long enough for him to get poped by concord. Now the suicider can get a full pay out and not much is lost. Just seems a little imbalanced in my eyes. Oh and before a forum warrior states be aligned , try to warp in a barge or hulk aligned with smart bonbs going off. You can insure Hulks. Not that I care about this guy's Hulk mind you, but to play Devil's Advocate, aren't Exhumers subject to the T2 insurance thing? That being that you can't insure it to its full value... like how I can only get 2M insurance on my Wolf, when I actually pay 10-13M for it? I don't even bother buying the insurance for it anymore, tbh... I consider it uninsurable for all intents and purposes.
Dianeces Repo Industries R.E.P.O.	Posted - 2008.03.19 20:56:00 - [134] Originally by: Quelque Chose Originally by: Dianeces Not so much. Thanks for playing. LOL. First you try and suggest that a single incident shows that suicide ganks used to be as common as they are now and then you're going to try and do a "." maneuver on me over some petty rules- lawyering? Pffft. Thanks for playing indeed. I'm sorry. I was too busy savoring all the bitter, bitter tears. They taste so sweet, btw.
Quelque Chose University of Caille	Posted - 2008.03.19 20:57:00 - [135] Originally by: Dianeces meme zomg ______________________________ "Eve Online is a massively multiplayer game about trolling in outer space."
Dianeces Repo Industries R.E.P.O.	Posted - 2008.03.19 20:57:00 - [136] Originally by: Havohej Not that I care about this guy's Hulk mind you, but to play Devil's Advocate, aren't Exhumers subject to the T2 insurance thing? That being that you can't insure it to its full value... like how I can only get 2M insurance on my Wolf, when I actually pay 10-13M for it? I don't even bother buying the insurance for it anymore, tbh... I consider it uninsurable for all intents and purposes. Yes. But you can insure it. And quite frankly, it's free money, so no reason not to, even if you don't receive what you paid for it.
Cpt Branko Surge. Night's Dawn	Posted - 2008.03.19 21:22:00 - [137] Edited by: Cpt Branko on 19/03/2008 21:22:54 Why are you using elite barges to stripmine high-sec belts?!?! It has to stop. Seriously Sig removed, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
Dianeces Repo Industries R.E.P.O.	Posted - 2008.03.19 21:28:00 - [138] Originally by: giles666 While it is do-able withint the game mechanics it does calss as griefing. No, it's not. CCP have said repeatedly that it should be doable. They clearly intend for it to happen. Originally by: giles666 People who hang out in a noob corp and mine in empire clearyl aren't interested in PvP and shouldn't be forced into it by dogdy game mechanics. Eve would not be Eve if the PvP were consentual. Actually, I take that back. Everyone in Eve consents to PvP when they undock. Simple as that. You don't like it? Suck it up, or leave. Originally by: giles666 If the Goonies WANT to gank people there is a while raft of low sec and null sec which is designed for this kind of thing. Peopl who enter low/null sec want to take part in PvP and everyone is happy taht way. People who carebear in empire don't wanna PvP and shouldn't have it forced upon them. See above. Also, maybe the miners could go to low/null sec instead of spouting off the old "Real men pvp in (insert scary sec here)" line. Originally by: giles666 Ganking is the only part of the game at the moment where you don't have a choice wether to PvP (even in empire, when your corp is decced you can leave teh corp if you really don't wanna PvP). Necessary part of the game, too. Otherwise, people would be able to just blithely grind missions all day and not have any risk of losing their pimped out CNR. That is not what Eve is about. Originally by: giles666 While I don't think insurance should be availible on any ship in Eve. Paying out insurance on a ship destroyed by the police while comiting a criminal act is just plain stupid and needs to be fixed. No insurance Company would ever pay such a claim so I don't see why CCP should. While I don't think insurance should be available on any ship in Eve. Paying out insurance on a ship destroyed by rats while fighting them is just plain stupid and needs to be fixed. No insurance Company would ever pay such a claim so I don't see why CCP should.
Quelque Chose University of Caille	Posted - 2008.03.19 21:38:00 - [139] Originally by: giles666 People who carebear in empire don't wanna PvP and shouldn't have it forced upon them. Didn't expect to hear that from a 0.0 guy. I'm an empire- mining wussie and probably will be for a couple months more at least and I can't agree; the possibility of danger is about the only thing that makes that schtick even partially amusing. The only thing I don't like about the latest hulk- ganking fad is that it looks pretty imbalanced to me. The cat- and- mouse game of hauler ganking seems reasonably balanced, as does the business of CNR ganking with its fairly large buy- in; the mechanics involved and the profit motive make those things make sense to me. Hulk and Mack ganks, though, just look like a "HURRRRR!!!!" turkey- shoot for ingame trolls. Profit potential looks like it's probably pretty low so ***- stirring seems like the only real motivation; from a mechanics POV it's pretty lopsided in favor of the attacker; and the actual minigame of it doesn't appear to be fun in any way (unlike trying to sneak a hauler through the gauntlet to Jita). Exhumers need a buff to grid and cpu IMO. ______________________________ "Eve Online is a massively multiplayer game about trolling in outer space."*
Securion Wolfheart Not Like Most	Posted - 2008.03.19 21:46:00 - [140] Not griefing? Are you joking? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Griefing * The unfair use or abuse of a game mechanic that was not intended by the game's developers. * The inability of the victim to exact some means of retribution beyond utilizing similar unintended game mechanics. * The intended purpose of an act of griefing must be to negatively impact the game play of another person. ... so its griefing alright. CCP must be the only game company in the entire world that allows, even encourages, and pay in-game currency (insurance) to griefers. One can argue how good that is as a business model in the long run, but then again; this is EVE Online. Get a carrier asap and go to 0.0 and pretend you are enjoying yourself. Go, boy, go. The difference between a Pirate and an Anti-Pirate is that an Anti-Pirate fights ships fitted with guns...
AleRiperKilt The Scope	Posted - 2008.03.19 21:47:00 - [141] Originally by: BlondieBC I have put a 1 million isk bounty on any miner in an gallente ice belt. If you don't like this, I live in tde in geminate region. Come do something about it. Excellent: - Grab Gallente ice mining alt to 0.0 - Kill him with main in another account - ??? - PROFIT!!! --- 1. Fit wrong stuff to ship 2. Post screenshot in Eve Forums 3. ???? 4. PROFIT!
Dianeces Repo Industries R.E.P.O.	Posted - 2008.03.19 21:50:00 - [142] Edited by: Dianeces on 19/03/2008 21:50:08 Originally by: Securion Wolfheart Not griefing? Are you joking? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Griefing * The unfair use or abuse of a game mechanic that was not intended by the game's developers. * The inability of the victim to exact some means of retribution beyond utilizing similar unintended game mechanics. * The intended purpose of an act of griefing must be to negatively impact the game play of another person. ... so its griefing alright. CCP must be the only game company in the entire world that allows, even encourages, and pay in-game currency (insurance) to griefers. One can argue how good that is as a business model in the long run, but then again; this is EVE Online. Get a carrier asap and go to 0.0 and pretend you are enjoying yourself. Go, boy, go. They have said it's intended. #1 refuted. You don't have to use exploits to get back at them (read: killrights and spawning condord in your belts). #2 refuted. 2/3 of your so-called "proof" are wrong, ergo, it's not griefing. Get over yourself. Also, lolwikipedia.
Soporo Tides of Silence Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2008.03.19 21:51:00 - [143] Edited by: Soporo on 19/03/2008 21:53:24 All CCP has to do is ONE simple little thing to stop or mitigate suicide ganking : (making the VERY wild assumption that they want to) STOP PAYING OUT INSURANCE FOR CONCORDOKENED SHIPS. No brainer. Not that they will, untill all the n00bs split because of the lameness that is. ________________________________________________ "We can't reimburse ships due to server meltdowns because our service is so frickin unstable we get thousands of reimburse petitions daily".
Celot GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.19 21:54:00 - [144] Originally by: Soporo All CCP has to do is ONE simple little thing to stop or mitigate suicide ganking : (making the VERY wild assumption that they want to) STOP PAYING OUT INSURANCE FOR CONCORDOKENED SHIPS. No brainer. even ccp isn't that incompetent,allah be praised
Malcanis R.E.C.O.N. Black-Out	Posted - 2008.03.19 22:23:00 - [145] Originally by: Dianeces Edited by: Dianeces on 19/03/2008 21:50:08 Originally by: Securion Wolfheart Not griefing? Are you joking? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Griefing * The unfair use or abuse of a game mechanic that was not intended by the game's developers. * The inability of the victim to exact some means of retribution beyond utilizing similar unintended game mechanics. * The intended purpose of an act of griefing must be to negatively impact the game play of another person. ... so its griefing alright. CCP must be the only game company in the entire world that allows, even encourages, and pay in-game currency (insurance) to griefers. One can argue how good that is as a business model in the long run, but then again; this is EVE Online. Get a carrier asap and go to 0.0 and pretend you are enjoying yourself. Go, boy, go. They have said it's intended. #1 refuted. You don't have to use exploits to get back at them (read: killrights and spawning condord in your belts). #2 refuted. 2/3 of your so-called "proof" are wrong, ergo, it's not griefing. Get over yourself. Also, lolwikipedia. You're a fool. hi-sec suicide ganking is and has always been intended It's not an exploit. It's not against the rule. It's not even unintended. It's right theere in the damb website for anyone to read. Deal with it or quit, but for the love of god stop polluting these forums with your mendacious whining. CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
File Slievugh 28 Disciples and a Kangaroo	Posted - 2008.03.19 22:30:00 - [146] CONCORD shouldn't pay this insurance to force these gank players to mine. XD
Kuranta Pator Tech School	Posted - 2008.03.19 22:32:00 - [147] Originally by: karttoon http://www.jihadswarm.com/?a=message You've been given options. If you choose to ignore them, your blood is on your own hands. Yeah. Cramping them up in one region, make them feel safe. And one day - all of Goonswarm do one big suicide op. I'm looking forward to this one.
Celot GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.19 22:37:00 - [148] Originally by: File Slievugh CONCORD shouldn't pay this insurance to force these gank players to mine. XD Ample passive income crew checkin in
File Slievugh 28 Disciples and a Kangaroo	Posted - 2008.03.19 22:40:00 - [149] CONCORD should be able to kill every gank tanked ship.
Christari Zuborov Ore Mongers	Posted - 2008.03.19 22:46:00 - [150] Concord shouldn't pay insurance to those who continually get ganked, clearly they're not a very responsible party to their contract.

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