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Sexiest Astronaut
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.03.20 16:27:00 -
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I'm just wondering, as a new player if I "gather" the money for a brand new ship that costs a fortune, and get blasted away with it as soon as I get to a asteroid belt, then why the hell should I continue playing on a rookie ship again ?
(nothing happened to me, I'm still flying a miner frigate, thehe)
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Marcus TheMartin
Deadly Addiction Un-Natural Selection
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Posted - 2008.03.20 16:31:00 -
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Originally by: Sexiest Astronaut I'm just wondering, as a new player if I "gather" the money for a brand new ship that costs a fortune, and get blasted away with it as soon as I get to a asteroid belt, then why the hell should I continue playing on a rookie ship again ?
(nothing happened to me, I'm still flying a miner frigate, thehe)
you would have learned that spending all your money on one big thing is a big mistake
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Wyrd Girlz
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.03.20 16:34:00 -
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Originally by: Sexiest Astronaut I'm just wondering, as a new player if I "gather" the money for a brand new ship that costs a fortune, and get blasted away with it as soon as I get to a asteroid belt, then why the hell should I continue playing on a rookie ship again ?
(nothing happened to me, I'm still flying a miner frigate, thehe)
See, if you go straight from a rookie ship into a t2 ship of anysort and have no isk left for any other ship, theres something wrong right there.
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Durethia
Black Plague. RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.20 17:10:00 -
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Edited by: Durethia on 20/03/2008 17:11:39
Originally by: Placename HERE Please for the love of god CCP .. these dam goons are blowing up everything in site.
HAHAHAHA, I always enjoyed flying with fellow Goon pilots. \o/
It's always a good time when you're blue to Goonswarm
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Quelque Chose
University of Caille
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Posted - 2008.03.20 17:11:00 -
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Originally by: Caius Sivaris
[Hulk, Highsec] Damage Control II Adaptive Nano Plating II
Small F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction Small F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I
Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I
Fits with engineering 5/shield upgrades 4.
27k effective hp would likely require 3 BS at least to gank, torp ravens not working well on it because of the relatively small sig radius.
So far I take EFT numbers with a grain of salt, but I gotta admit that doesn't look bad at all. OTOH, goons don't seem to be above throwing 3 BS in just for yux.
Out of curiosity, how much would a rig like that cost to replace in the event? ______________________________
"Eve Online is a massively multiplayer game about trolling in outer space." |
Caius Sivaris
Dark Nexxus
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Posted - 2008.03.20 17:21:00 -
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Originally by: Quelque Chose
So far I take EFT numbers with a grain of salt, but I gotta admit that doesn't look bad at all. OTOH, goons don't seem to be above throwing 3 BS in just for yux.
Out of curiosity, how much would a rig like that cost to replace in the event?
High slots, you would have bought them anyway Med slots, under 5 millions Low slots, under 3 millions
Rigs, 20-30 millions but the setup is still very reasonable without them.
Spending that much for a 100+ million ISk ship should be a no brainer for everyone.
Most miners are too greedy and won't do without mining upgrades and cargo expanders, their problem, they are making suiciding them easy and profitable.
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Quelque Chose
University of Caille
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Posted - 2008.03.20 17:48:00 -
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Originally by: Caius Sivaris Rigs, 20-30 millions but the setup is still very reasonable without them.
As a percentage that's not bad at all, and I knew the rest would be comparatively cheap. If your costs there are accurate the reasons not to do that just became a lot fewer, and I'll definitely say my assessment of the Hulk's fitting abilities was way off. Cheers. :)
Concerning the greed, though, I don't know that that's necessarily wrong thinking; after all, the way you "win" at mining is by maximizing profit. You gain a lot in security from that setup but you do pay for it somewhat in reduced yield by not mounting MLUIIs. As such, you're gambling that you'll be attacked just as much as somebody fitted for yield is gambling that he won't be and the question becomes: "how many hours of operation would a yield- fitted Hulk have to survive in order to absorb a loss and still outperform your tank rig?"
My guess is it would have to be a lot and the best choice would be somewhat situational; maybe later if I get bored enough I'll fire up the calculator on that one. ______________________________
"Eve Online is a massively multiplayer game about trolling in outer space." |
Zorlag
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.20 17:57:00 -
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Originally by: Caius Sivaris
Originally by: Quelque Chose
Originally by: Caius Sivaris
I reviewed all 5 kills the goons got in Hurtoken and no ship had anything ressembling a good passive tank with some effective HP.
People insisting on fitting their ships like crap get blown up. All good, makes for a lively market.
So tell me, what would you recommend?
[Hulk, Highsec] Damage Control II Adaptive Nano Plating II
Small F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction Small F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I
Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I
Fits with engineering 5/shield upgrades 4.
27k effective hp would likely require 3 BS at least to gank, torp ravens not working well on it because of the relatively small sig radius.
And it will passive tank highsec rats just fine too.
See, no civilian shield booster, no cargo expander, none of the crap you see one your average suicided hulk in fact. It's an expensive ship, protect your investment instead of doing all in your power to make it an attractive target.
Hurray, instead of making some piddling amount of money in empire you can make even smaller amounts of money by throwing away mining upgrades. Have fun getting outmined by a Covetor.
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Caius Sivaris
Dark Nexxus
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Posted - 2008.03.20 18:01:00 -
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Originally by: Zorlag
Originally by: Caius Sivaris
(Hulk with decent tank setup)
Hurray, instead of making some piddling amount of money in empire you can make even smaller amounts of money by throwing away mining upgrades. Have fun getting outmined by a Covetor.
Hey goonies, another one who doesn't tank his Hulk and will pop to a T1 Brutix.
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Quelque Chose
University of Caille
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Posted - 2008.03.20 18:06:00 -
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Edited by: Quelque Chose on 20/03/2008 18:09:51
Originally by: Caius Sivaris Hey goonies, another one who doesn't tank his Hulk and will pop to a T1 Brutix.
Dude you might want to check his corp/ alliance ticker.
*edit* ... but yeah, if he doesn't like it that's one more thing in favor of your rig. ______________________________
"Eve Online is a massively multiplayer game about trolling in outer space." |
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Caius Sivaris
Dark Nexxus
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Posted - 2008.03.20 18:19:00 -
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Originally by: Quelque Chose Edited by: Quelque Chose on 20/03/2008 18:09:51
Originally by: Caius Sivaris Hey goonies, another one who doesn't tank his Hulk and will pop to a T1 Brutix.
Dude you might want to check his corp/ alliance ticker.
*edit* ... but yeah, if he doesn't like it that's one more thing in favor of your rig.
Hum, self owned I guess. I wondered why no one was showing his corp anymore.
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Aprudena Gist
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.20 18:25:00 -
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Originally by: Marcus TheMartin
Originally by: Sexiest Astronaut I'm just wondering, as a new player if I "gather" the money for a brand new ship that costs a fortune, and get blasted away with it as soon as I get to a asteroid belt, then why the hell should I continue playing on a rookie ship again ?
(nothing happened to me, I'm still flying a miner frigate, thehe)
you would have learned that spending all your money on one big thing is a big mistake
see now this person is going and making sense again please stop teaching people we are trying to have fun here.
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Berrik Radhok
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.20 18:48:00 -
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lol
Quote:
[ 2006.08.25 22:30:46 ] fire 59 > mate, im 230 and 6 ft 3, half caste and train every day
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Ja'kar
MAFIA
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Posted - 2008.03.20 18:49:00 -
[224]
In b4 pg 9
MAFIA Website
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USGAnthrax
Chronowerx Inc
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Posted - 2008.03.20 19:01:00 -
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Originally by: Placename HERE I cant belive a community could be so unkind to it new players. How are we EVER supposed to catch up to players of that age and skill?
Alot of you posters think its funny ? your no better than the goons.
I think my time in eve is fading fast, yes and you can say the "can i have your stuff" but i cant see you doing much with friggen space dust cuz thats all i got left
Seriously, you are stupid ....or what ???
You get suicide ganked everytime in the same way and don't think about any other solution that complaint as a poor little girl alone in the dark, on forum.... (and which forum ? ==> The Pirates one ! LoL)
What did you expected ? Some compassion ? We are bastards here (or the most part of us)! We like to play this game as it, and the more you will complain here, the more we will be happy !
In general I don't specially like goons, but i really think after reading your post that they really need to get banned if they stop to kill a such "Funny target"
Seriously, if you really like to mine in 0.5 sec, come where i am it will be a pleasure to help you meet your god with a cute explosion
i know this been said a lot of time on all eve forums (in general after a patch and as allways/often... a nerfing of race/ships/items... ), but : - ADAPT OR DIE ! (<== It is the definition of the evolution)
i started to read this topic because i found it funny to see you crying like a little girl, but you starting to get boring so.... STOP, adapt, die or change game....
I heard that they will make a "Pokemon Online", you'd better perhaps leave EvE and try this one, you will live in a beautifull pink world with cute bunnies all around you and hearts flying in the sky (i think they made it for you !)
Ok for now, enought time lost because of you writing this post i ll come back paly and hope to meet you one day, as it i'll have perhaps another Corpse in my hangar !
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Xzar Fyrarr
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2008.03.20 19:41:00 -
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Originally by: Sexiest Astronaut I'm just wondering, as a new player if I "gather" the money for a brand new ship that costs a fortune, and get blasted away with it as soon as I get to a asteroid belt, then why the hell should I continue playing on a rookie ship again ?
(nothing happened to me, I'm still flying a miner frigate, thehe)
Learn to protect what you want. If you can't protect you have/want, you really didn't want it in the first place. Could of worded that better but meh
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Xzar Fyrarr
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2008.03.20 19:46:00 -
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Originally by: USGAnthrax
Originally by: Placename HERE I cant belive a community could be so unkind to it new players. How are we EVER supposed to catch up to players of that age and skill?
Alot of you posters think its funny ? your no better than the goons.
I think my time in eve is fading fast, yes and you can say the "can i have your stuff" but i cant see you doing much with friggen space dust cuz thats all i got left
Seriously, you are stupid ....or what ???
You get suicide ganked everytime in the same way and don't think about any other solution that complaint as a poor little girl alone in the dark, on forum.... (and which forum ? ==> The Pirates one ! LoL)
What did you expected ? Some compassion ? We are bastards here (or the most part of us)! We like to play this game as it, and the more you will complain here, the more we will be happy !
In general I don't specially like goons, but i really think after reading your post that they really need to get banned if they stop to kill a such "Funny target"
Seriously, if you really like to mine in 0.5 sec, come where i am it will be a pleasure to help you meet your god with a cute explosion
i know this been said a lot of time on all eve forums (in general after a patch and as allways/often... a nerfing of race/ships/items... ), but : - ADAPT OR DIE ! (<== It is the definition of the evolution)
i started to read this topic because i found it funny to see you crying like a little girl, but you starting to get boring so.... STOP, adapt, die or change game....
I heard that they will make a "Pokemon Online", you'd better perhaps leave EvE and try this one, you will live in a beautifull pink world with cute bunnies all around you and hearts flying in the sky (i think they made it for you !)
Ok for now, enought time lost because of you writing this post i ll come back paly and hope to meet you one day, as it i'll have perhaps another Corpse in my hangar !
@Placename This game is not a "Die, Respawn, buy, die Respawn buy." type of game... well it is... but the consequences are more severe.
You got suicide ganked, o well tough sh## You learn from it and FIT BETTER TO AVOID getting suicided.
THE COMMUNITY isn't unkind to the new players. We give them support and guide them. The PLAYER HIMSELF ultimately is the one that chooses to not regard our support or not bother to learn from what happened to them.
Then , not naming names, the said player comes to the forums and then whines about something that could of EASILY been avoided -.-
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Lee Tung
Suicidal Mercenaries Pure.
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Posted - 2008.03.20 20:59:00 -
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All i can say after reading this thread is ROFL.
The Jihad crap is funny. Oh well if you loose ships. There are too many carebears anyways.
Also, what is Bin Laden's take on Goons mocking his style? Is he in the gank squads too flyin a BS from his cave?
The drama that can be caused is entertaining.
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sov68n
Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.20 21:12:00 -
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Hey look, someone who thinks it's CCP's job to protect them.
lol.
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z0de
The Bastards
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Posted - 2008.03.20 22:32:00 -
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Good trolling well done Placename HERE
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Remlin
DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.20 22:32:00 -
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Originally by: Placename HERE Come on people dont any of you guys care?
I care! Not enough to gank you myself but I do care. I really do!
"Heroes don't die, they reload" |
Andreus Ixiris
Heretic Logistics DeStInY.
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Posted - 2008.03.21 02:14:00 -
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CCP WE NEED TO GET RID OF THESE CAREBEARS, THEY'RE A MENACE TO SOCIETY ----- "I am prepared to meet my maker; whether my maker is prepared for the great ordeal of meeting me is another matter." |
odins desire
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2008.03.21 10:31:00 -
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Originally by: Placename HERE
Originally by: Rod Blaine
Quote: kills me then warps away
You sure he did not get killed by concord ? If not then you are right, and they're doing something CCP actually does not allow.
Ahhhhh Haaaaa, he MUST be cheating then. HE WARPED AWAY. CONCORD DID NOT COME
ok had a similar experience lately where i was attacked in a closed mission area(i was cleaning up salvage) unprevoked by an npc corp player(so no posible wardec) i fought him for 19 mins without concord showing up, eventually i lost mainly due to the high level of ewar he was using, he then returned to the 1 only station in the system and docked without getting a single shot from the sentries(0.9 system) and i had arrived in my pod first, so yes I DO BELIEVE AN EXPLOIT HAS BEEN FOUND AND IS BEING USED. As for reimbursment mentioned somewhere ha no chance. Now, I hadnt done much pvp jut among friends learning the business, but i thoroughly enjoyed it, it was huge learning experience, i even sent him an evemail thanking him for a good fight. I then proceeded to wardec his 7 player corp with our 4 corp and pop pop popped him again and how sweet was revenge.
So, stop the whining, treat is as a learning curve, try different fits, take the many different aspects of advice been given, remember its a game, if your not having fun dont play, adapt, go get your revenge if tht means going lowsec and joining a war corp just to get him do it.
Now, to the goons, keep it up, if you get only 1 like me where you introduce a carebear to the glory of pvp(possibly a bit daunted by the prospect of taking on a 20mil sp char i know i was) and they convert you are doing the whole game a great service.
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Celot
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.21 11:09:00 -
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how come easy kill gets a thread
I've killed more of you than he has, I want a thread
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Scrutt5
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Posted - 2008.03.21 11:16:00 -
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Wait till they realise most of the CNR's flying around Motsu with their Faction Fitted perma tanks dont tank EM cos 90% of the missions are Therm/Kinetic damage.
Now thats when we'll see some whining :) Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. |
Celot
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Posted - 2008.03.21 11:22:00 -
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Originally by: Scrutt5 Wait till they realise most of the CNR's flying around Motsu with their Faction Fitted perma tanks dont tank EM cos 90% of the missions are Therm/Kinetic damage.
Now thats when we'll see some whining :)
well we've already started to move on to retrievers/covetors
next in line is probably force recons/covops but you didn't hear it here
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Easy Kill
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Posted - 2008.03.21 11:38:00 -
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Originally by: Celot how come easy kill gets a thread
I've killed more of you than he has, I want a thread
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Xdriver
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Posted - 2008.03.21 11:51:00 -
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BHAHAHAHA CRUSH BOSS LOL!!!! Man this guys is the bomb! ROFFFL! HAHAHAHA
490 MILL ISK JACKPOT
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Malcanis
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Posted - 2008.03.21 14:15:00 -
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Originally by: Aprudena Gist
Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: AleRiperKilt
Originally by: ghost st EVE is a sandbox that supports many, many different playstyles, and it usually hapens that a groups of users with a particular playstyle fancy themselves as somehow superior to the other players.
That's why I am piling up T1 barges, related modules and BPOs in Junsoraert (or whatever, the one next to Aclan). My alt will have retriever skills by Friday and then the fun starts: every suicide will earn me 1 mil with insurance payout. If they don't suicide me I will make 10 mil/hr drilling ice anyways
Stop it! Stop that right now! With your "adapting" and your "surviving", you're spoiling the goons fun. How DARE you stop them playing the way they want to!? They pay to play this game the same as you!
CCP FIX THIS EXPLOIT RIGHT NOW!
man your a terrible poster please stop.
Also take down those large bubbles in h8.
plzkthx.
Just for that, some more large are going up the minute I get back.
Enjoy your 200Km dash in your freighter.
CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that. |
128th ABC123
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Posted - 2008.03.21 15:11:00 -
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Edited by: 128th ABC123 on 21/03/2008 15:11:22
Originally by: Placename HERE
Originally by: Grimwalius d'Antan Another "I walk into a trap repeatedly on my own accord and it is everyone elses fault" thread! Yay forums \o/
Thats not very fair.
I followed all the help and info on this forum.
I ran a passive tank i alligned to the station, and still this bloody ship warps right on top of me locks me webs and scrams me then blows me to the 4 winds. Then the cheeky bugger asked if i like the "fire works" and types Allah in local. Not funny and not the sort of PAYING game i wish to play i think.
OMG, my coffee just came out through my nose....
It is as with all things that become unbalanced, like the privateer wardec system etc, at a certain point it just gets out of hand and as soon as it starts costing player base CCP will step in. Untill then, set them red to your corp and keep an eye on local, believe me people in 0.0 have to do it too and you get used to it. Empire is huge and theres enough places you can go where goons wont come.
For instance dont mine in systems close to any hubs, get of the main routes into empire etc. Bottomline, life just got a little bit toughere for Mr. Miner, adapt and sit out the storm. Humanity overcame the plague, eve will overcome Goons. Lol fitting comparison if I may say so myself.
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