Originally by: 0rch1d

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Edited by: 0rch1d on 15/06/2009 17:55:30

Originally by: Hyveres

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Best way to stop a ninjasalvager is simple stay in nullsec , and kill the sucker when you see him :)

Highsec = fail :P

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But young missionbears with their bought ISK and shiny PvE shippies love hi-sec.

Notice that a lot of them can barely manage level 4s.

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Originally by: Lunewraith

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Advice time :)

This is what I've been using in Amarr hubs on an alt to decent effect:

[Moa, Hi Tharr!]
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II

10MN MicroWarpdrive I
10MN Afterburner I
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

Salvager II
Salvager II
Salvager II
Salvager II
Salvager I
Expanded Probe Launcher I, Core Scanner Probe I

Salvage Tackle I
[empty rig slot]
[empty rig slot]


Hobgoblin II x3

I like the Moa, can fit AB/MWD (I like the MWD for single pocket missions with no gate), fits the Expanded launcher so its one-stop probing/salvaging. Ship speed is a bit meh, but I'm loath to use Overdrives due to tight cargo space + nanos give the ability to gtfo if the mission runner leaves and drops aggro. 3 T2 drones are nice for insurance on scrambling frigs.

Question is, is there a better ship to use for a similar setup? I'd like moar tank/ship speed or most preferably, lower sig radius for kiting BS's when missioners drop out and deaggro. tia :)

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Originally by: RonPaul Solution

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george w bush used to BUMP *******, true story

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Originally by: XxTangoxX

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If you could scan down the actual wrecks or scan down the missions, I bet a lot of people would go for mission runners only if the wrecks that were abandoned were cleared out already as it's 1) safer and 2) easier then trying to race to get the best salvage etc.

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Originally by: Kay Vaginal

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When a somebody else approaches a wreck while you are running a mission, wait until they get close to a wreck then pop it. Repeat. You get the mission and bounty cash, they get all the fun of running back and forth only to be denied their pittance at the last moment again and again and again.

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Originally by: Kay Vaginal

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When a somebody else approaches a wreck while you are running a mission, wait until they get close to a wreck then pop it. Repeat. You get the mission and bounty cash, they get all the fun of running back and forth only to be denied their pittance at the last moment again and again and again.

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Originally by: g0ggalor

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We are not denied. The fact that we cause you to pop your precious loot is payment enough. Please continue the practice.

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Originally by: Kahega Amielden

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There are enough good tips to avoid ninjas that it makes me sad when people think something stupid like this will help them. I, like any other ninja I know, make a point of going to each and every wreck. If I'm feeling particularly spiteful, I'll get my alpha mael out and pop the wrecks before you so that I get the bounties.

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Originally by: g0ggalor

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We are not denied. The fact that we cause you to pop your precious loot is payment enough. Please continue the practice.

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Originally by: Kay Vaginal

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Originally by: Kahega Amielden

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There are enough good tips to avoid ninjas that it makes me sad when people think something stupid like this will help them. I, like any other ninja I know, make a point of going to each and every wreck. If I'm feeling particularly spiteful, I'll get my alpha mael out and pop the wrecks before you so that I get the bounties.

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I've never seen a ninja go for anything but large, you're making your unprofitable past time even less profitable by doing otherwise. I'm not sure if I should tell you this, but you don't get any bounty for blowing up wrecks. Don't let that stop you though! Go ahead and try blowing up somebody's wrecks, be sure to fraps it and post the vid. A good laugh is always appreciated.

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I've never seen a ninja go for anything but large, you're making your unprofitable past time even less profitable by doing otherwise. I'm not sure if I should tell you this, but you don't get any bounty for blowing up wrecks. Don't let that stop you though! Go ahead and try blowing up somebody's wrecks, be sure to fraps it and post the vid. A good laugh is always appreciated.

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Originally by: Kay Vaginal

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When a somebody else approaches a wreck while you are running a mission, wait until they get close to a wreck then pop it. Repeat. You get the mission and bounty cash, they get all the fun of running back and forth only to be denied their pittance at the last moment again and again and again.

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Originally by: Kay Vaginal

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Originally by: g0ggalor

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We are not denied. The fact that we cause you to pop your precious loot is payment enough. Please continue the practice.

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You're there for the salvage, you get no salvage. That's the very definition of denied. 99% of the time the only things worth looting have such horrible salvage they're not worth turning the beams on.

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Originally by: Kay Vaginal

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I know that there's this idea that every mission runner is distraught when somebody ninjas their mission and cries themself to sleep about it while ninja salvagers are the cool kids of carebearing , taking things other people have made and laughing at the horror they leave in their wake, but speaking for myself, I simply don't care. Running level 4's for the cash, bounties and LP will net much more isk that searching for scraps and competing w/ all the other cool kids who are likewise looking for mission runner's leftovers. I know how much tears mean to some of you but I just don't care. Sorry. Popping my own wrecks while watching you try and outrun my guns to them is funny to me and I lose next to nothing by doing it.

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Originally by: Kay Vaginal

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I know that there's this idea that every mission runner is distraught when somebody ninjas their mission and cries themself to sleep about it while ninja salvagers are the cool kids of carebearing , taking things other people have made and laughing at the horror they leave in their wake, but speaking for myself, I simply don't care.

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Originally by: Willy Pete/tweedledee

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But we won't be denied the lulz as we laugh at you having a temper tantrum and ruining 18% - 38% of your mission running profit, according to Kerfira's mission break down post, plus the time you waste doing so, since, as another poster mentioned, I am honor bound to make sure you have to kill all the wrecks. Unlike you, I'm not in it primarily for the isk. I'm in it for the tears: in game, and on forum.

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Originally by: Voridor Malevolence/tweedledum

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A pathetic attempt to restore some superiority in an otherwise helpless situation.

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Originally by: The Chooch

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While you may not give a hoot for your salvage, most MRs really, really do. They give so much of a hoot it's unhealthy. Scary even. Some think that by a quick chest-thump and a blown up wreck the ninja can be discouraged, and will leave the MR in peace to salvage in his own good time.

Most ninja I know react in much the same way I do. If you pop a single wreck, best be prepared to pop every last one until the end of your mission :)

Or, barring that, they'll react like Kahega. Whip out their specially-fitted high Alpha snipe ships and deny you your bounties AND wrecks :D

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Originally by: The Chooch

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While you may not give a hoot for your salvage, most MRs really, really do. They give so much of a hoot it's unhealthy. Scary even. Some think that by a quick chest-thump and a blown up wreck the ninja can be discouraged, and will leave the MR in peace to salvage in his own good time.

Most ninja I know react in much the same way I do. If you pop a single wreck, best be prepared to pop every last one until the end of your mission :)

Or, barring that, they'll react like Kahega. Whip out their specially-fitted high Alpha snipe ships and deny you your bounties AND wrecks :D

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Originally by: g0ggalor

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Originally by: The Chooch

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While you may not give a hoot for your salvage, most MRs really, really do. They give so much of a hoot it's unhealthy. Scary even. Some think that by a quick chest-thump and a blown up wreck the ninja can be discouraged, and will leave the MR in peace to salvage in his own good time.

Most ninja I know react in much the same way I do. If you pop a single wreck, best be prepared to pop every last one until the end of your mission :)

Or, barring that, they'll react like Kahega. Whip out their specially-fitted high Alpha snipe ships and deny you your bounties AND wrecks :D

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I agree whole with the first part of this. For the second day in a row, a MR has cried in local and compared ninjaing the salvage to ****. You have got to be kidding me! He then threatened to contact a merc corp to take out our salvage rifters. D: I can just imagine how hard the mercs would laugh at him if he tried.

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