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Adrienne Sorbonne Gallente Silent Sisters of the Bloody Rose	Posted - 2008.04.26 21:51:00 - [1] Anxiously awaited turned into a let down so far. Seems like one ok episode is followed by an awful one with the 4th being the worst so far. Whoever wrote the storyline is an idiot, the whole Balthar thing is downright ridiculouse. Lee Adama turned into a douchebag? I¦m not sure if I should be looking forward to episode 5 BSG needs more spaceships pew pew and less soap drama!
Adrienne Sorbonne Gallente Silent Sisters of the Bloody Rose	Posted - 2008.04.26 21:51:00 - [2] Anxiously awaited turned into a let down so far. Seems like one ok episode is followed by an awful one with the 4th being the worst so far. Whoever wrote the storyline is an idiot, the whole Balthar thing is downright ridiculouse. Lee Adama turned into a douchebag? I¦m not sure if I should be looking forward to episode 5 BSG needs more spaceships pew pew and less soap drama!
Tamia Clant New Dawn Corp New Eden Research	Posted - 2008.04.26 22:01:00 - [3] Yeah, I'm getting the same impression, every time there's a religious or politic scene I just go "Oh, not again..." I wouldn't mind these bits to be in the storyline, but it gets a bit uninteresting when it's the main focus point. Looking for queue-free research slots? Click here!
kessah The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.04.26 22:09:00 - [4] havnt started watching yet, since i dont like getting addicted and then waiting for next epi. Just guna wait till its done... Problem with that is, some git will slip the story to me... Same as it was with episode 2 of HL
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.26 22:09:00 - [5] Edited by: Patch86 on 26/04/2008 22:10:08 EDIT: Oh, and *SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER*, for kessah's benefit I'm enjoying it. Cylon civil war? Good. Crazy Starbuck? Good. Crazy Baltar? Always good. And Lee was always a douche bag, now he's just an official one.
Mtthias Clemi Gallente The Space Bastards	Posted - 2008.04.26 22:17:00 - [6] Originally by: Patch86 Edited by: Patch86 on 26/04/2008 22:10:08 EDIT: Oh, and *SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER*, for kessah's benefit I'm enjoying it. Cylon civil war? Good. Crazy Starbuck? Good. Crazy Baltar? Always good. And Lee was always a douche bag, now he's just an official one. I agree! I love baltar!!!! HURRRAAAHHH!
Kalahari Wayrest Re-Awakened Technologies Inc	Posted - 2008.04.27 03:02:00 - [7] Quote: And Lee was always a douche bag, now he's just an official one. my thoughts exactly (though I found it especially amusing when he became fat douchebag) __________________________ Indulge Me Consider Yourself Indulged - Immy ♥ Wow immy scored - Xorus
Alex Salas	Posted - 2008.04.27 05:07:00 - [8] Originally by: Adrienne Sorbonne Anxiously awaited turned into a let down so far. Seems like one ok episode is followed by an awful one with the 4th being the worst so far. Whoever wrote the storyline is an idiot, the whole Balthar thing is downright ridiculouse. Lee Adama turned into a douchebag? I¦m not sure if I should be looking forward to episode 5 BSG needs more spaceships pew pew and less soap drama! /signed. my impression so far of teh season has been "um ok." one can only hope that the eps will pick up soon.
Dario Wall Caldari Black Legion Industries	Posted - 2008.04.27 09:49:00 - [9] *Possible Spoilers Below!* For some odd reason, I have a feeling the Cylon civil war is going to spill over in to the human fleet. With all the political shifts happening with in the fleet, certain factions are begin to grow hostile towards one another. With the Cylons fighting each other, and the Sharon and Six models wanting to reunite with the "Final Five" which they believe are in the fleet, they may end up making contact. Next weeks episode preview shows Starbucks ship meeting with a few Cylons to try and find the way back to Earth. We'll just have to see how things turn out.
Nuala Reece Caldari Trinity Nova Trinity Nova Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.27 20:15:00 - [10] Originally by: Adrienne Sorbonne Whoever wrote the storyline is an idiot, the whole Balthar thing is downright ridiculouse. Yeah, because the development of a small cult, centred on a charismatic leader preaching a gospel of a single loving God, which grows into a popular movement challenging the established polytheistic worship of Zeus, Ares, Athena etc - that could never happen in real life. Oh ... wait ... Am still enjoying the series so far here, despite the lack of fancy battle scenes since episode 1 - I have this suspicion that they may, possibly, be developing characters and storylines first so that the action coming later has a context that makes sense. The way storytellers do when given the space to do what they're good at and not pressured by tv and movie execs who understand money and statistics but not drama and craft. Trinity Nova Mercenary Services Web Site - Nominated for the 2008 E-ON Magazine Awards
Sereifex Daku Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2008.04.27 21:12:00 - [11] I'd say that so far in season 4 the Colonial side of the story is running out of good plots, but the Cylon side of things has given the show a whole new direction imo.
ReaperOfSly Gallente Lyrus Associates	Posted - 2008.04.27 21:15:00 - [12] With the religion theme going on in BSG, I am forced to comment that there is too much pew pew pew and not enough pew pew pew. Moves out of kicking range --------------------------------------------------------------------
Jacob Mei	Posted - 2008.04.27 22:28:00 - [13] I suspect they are laying down the ground work for the rest of the season. With a pretty dramatic role change for the final five the writers I imagine have to reafirm that these guys are still the ones we have come to know. On a related note, did anyone catch how Baltar got up after being struck down by the guard? I wonder if that was a hint that Baltars "imaginary" Number 6 isnt so imaginary.
Wendat Huron Stellar Solutions	Posted - 2008.04.27 22:33:00 - [14] That woman was always a dork, I guess the writers set her up the bomb. These forums are FUBAR, upgrade this decade!
Frezik Basically Outdated Stereo Equiptment	Posted - 2008.04.28 00:41:00 - [15] Originally by: Jacob Mei On a related note, did anyone catch how Baltar got up after being struck down by the guard? I wonder if that was a hint that Baltars "imaginary" Number 6 isnt so imaginary. Baltar's Internal Six has manipulated physical objects before, though I don't think anybody besides Baltar was present at the time. I also suspect that Shelly Godfrey was just Baltar's Six who allowed herself to be seen by others.
SoftRevolution	Posted - 2008.04.28 00:47:00 - [16] It was ambigious. It could just have been Baltar standing funny.
goodby4u Logistic Technologies Incorporated	Posted - 2008.04.28 06:06:00 - [17] Forgive my nubness when it comes to BSG but how many more episodes are left?
Alindyar Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2008.04.28 06:48:00 - [18] 4x04 was crap.
F'nog Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce	Posted - 2008.04.28 08:33:00 - [19] Originally by: goodby4u Forgive my nubness when it comes to BSG but how many more episodes are left? 14. 2 for Razor, plus the 4 already shown from a season 20. And I totally disagree. It's been awesome so far. I can't wait for the next. Baltar's Baltar ghost/eidilon, whatever: hilarious. Plus they even mentioned Mithras. I absolutely love the religious angle. And the civil war adds so many possibilities. The only problem with episode 4 was the lack of the Cylons. Plus, Tory is one evil ***. Interesting... Originally by:** Kazuma Saruwatari F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2008.04.28 13:37:00 - [20] Lee Adama turned into an ass how? I always considered him annoying, what changed? Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Candice Bormardin Caldari Jouvulen Enterprises Inc.	Posted - 2008.04.28 14:03:00 - [21] BSG jump the tracks into Bizarro land a long time ago. Last year I got so sick of it I stopped watching. Now, since I don't care any more and am just watching to see what happens it's easier to enjoy it. To a large degree what I'm seeing here are the grasping, pitiful, convulsions of a dying race. They've suffered what was a killing blow at the beginning of the series and are just gasping out their last days in confused self destruction. The Humanoid Cylon's are all insane, which is about what you would get from trying to program humanity into machines. The problem there is that there are only 12 total models and 5 of those have been inactive up until now. With so few personalities it's to easy to slip over the line without the moderating influence of vast numbers of other personalities. Get half a dozen humans together in a clique and you're going to get some odd slants to the groups direction. Anyway, it seems that the great strength of this show is in people wanting to see what's coming next and how it all will end - which is why it seems to have such limited appeal in re-runs. Once everyone knows what's happened - there's no interest in watching it again. shrug Like I said, I've long since ceased to care about the show but I'll watch it just to see how all of this finally ends up. Which is more than I could say for Voyager. Once the half Klingon engineer whose name I'm not going to try to spell without looking it up got pregnant I just couldn't stand to watch a bunch of excruciatingly baby centric episodes so I just stopped. Tuned in for the finale but was busy playing a game while it was on so didn't catch much of that. Yeah, yeah, desperate measures, yeah, yeah super worm hole, yeah OK they're back - the end - thank goodness. 7 of 9 was the only reason I watched that show as long as I did. shrug
Roxanna Kell Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2008.04.28 14:20:00 - [22] I didnt like how chief's wife died, Stupid way to go really. They are starting to show that some of the people on the bsg are idiots. I am also starting to get the feeling that they have few good episodes left wth earth and all that, and are jsut filling up the gaps with random crap. Killing off teh good cylons, kililing of chief's wife, and letting balther live to be a messiah, Since when to random chicks at a young age jsut get up and decide to make a religion of ther own? and hot the heck did that baby get betteR?
Tarminic Black Flame Industries	Posted - 2008.04.28 14:52:00 - [23] Originally by: Frezik Originally by: Jacob Mei On a related note, did anyone catch how Baltar got up after being struck down by the guard? I wonder if that was a hint that Baltars "imaginary" Number 6 isnt so imaginary. Baltar's Internal Six has manipulated physical objects before, though I don't think anybody besides Baltar was present at the time. I also suspect that Shelly Godfrey was just Baltar's Six who allowed herself to be seen by others. I've been wondering about her for a long time, actually. More and more now I'm beginning to think that there is a third power involving itself in things aside from the Humans and the Cylons, possibly the "Original Programmers" or the "God" that the Cylons worship. If the Six in Baltar's head is just a delusion, why is she right so much? If you look back through the series she has consistently saved his ass, from creating a functional Cylon detector to guiding his actions to form the cult. It's far too much to be a simple coincidence, in my opinion. And then you throw in the fact that the same type of apparition has appeared to Caprica 6 in the form of Baltar, and even to Baltar himself at one point. Waaaaay too much to be a coincidence.
Avalira Caldari Pax Minor Expiscor Pario Addo	Posted - 2008.04.28 15:32:00 - [24] Originally by: Roxanna Kell and hot the heck did that baby get betteR? That baby is the final cylon. ------------- Selling the following: Probe BPC's ARK JF
Alindyar Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2008.04.28 16:52:00 - [25] Originally by: Avalira Originally by: Roxanna Kell and hot the heck did that baby get betteR? That baby is the final cylon. Nah, Chiefs baby is :P
Jacob Mei	Posted - 2008.04.28 17:20:00 - [26] Originally by: Avalira Originally by: Roxanna Kell and hot the heck did that baby get betteR? That baby is the final cylon. My dad *****ed a joke about that very same thing. I wonder what Athena would do if she learned atleast 3 of the final five are people she knows/close to. I wonder if the final five are so diffrent from the other cylons as well, if you recall, Boomer and the Chief were an item for a decent amount of time yet Boomer didnt seem to notice even after realizing she was a cylon. Considering the cylons have some sort of ability of picking out individuals in a group (IE Athena reconized Boomer just by looking at her) it would seem odd that they wouldnt reconize the final 5 even if the final 5 didnt know themselves. Maybe the final five are infact humans that were just slightly altered by the cylons and so their level of technology isnt nearly as high? Heck in the mini serise they were hanging around in that storm around the station and none of them started to break down even (though that may simply be a loop hole in the story).
Wild Rho Amarr GoonFleet	Posted - 2008.04.28 17:50:00 - [27] Originally by: Tarminic I've been wondering about her for a long time, actually. More and more now I'm beginning to think that there is a third power involving itself in things aside from the Humans and the Cylons, possibly the "Original Programmers" or the "God" that the Cylons worship. If the Six in Baltar's head is just a delusion, why is she right so much? If you look back through the series she has consistently saved his ass, from creating a functional Cylon detector to guiding his actions to form the cult. It's far too much to be a simple coincidence, in my opinion. And then you throw in the fact that the same type of apparition has appeared to Caprica 6 in the form of Baltar, and even to Baltar himself at one point. Waaaaay too much to be a coincidence. What really interests me about these two "imaginary" characters is how they differ in their perspective, for example with regards to the colonies, one saw it as part of a divine plan, the other states it was nothing but murder (or words to that effect).
Jacob Mei	Posted - 2008.04.28 18:50:00 - [28] I wonder if Caperica is going to see an "imaginary" number 6 now that baltar has seen himself.
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.28 22:29:00 - [29] Originally by: Tarminic ..and even to Baltar himself at one point. One of the best Baltar scenes so far, incidentally. Made me lol so very hard ------ Originally by: Dark Shikari The problem with killing Jesus is he always just respawns 3 days later anyways.
F'nog Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce	Posted - 2008.04.28 22:30:00 - [30] Originally by: Patch86 Originally by: Tarminic ..and even to Baltar himself at one point. One of the best Baltar scenes so far, incidentally. Made me lol so very hard Baltar's reaction was priceless: "Oh, come on!" Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said
Roxanna Kell Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2008.04.29 02:09:00 - [31] And when are they going to bring out the cylon Dreadghount? I mean, If you read some of the BSG books, the ones about some secret missions before the cylon attack. It mentions a Great dread built by man, And bit more detailed as you go thru the book. ISBN 978-0-575-07966-3 Battlestar Gallactica - The cylon Secret - Graig Shaw Gardner No, its not a pos shooting dread Quote: There is no Dishonor in winning fools, so do it any way you can.
Atomos Darksun Infortunatus Eventus	Posted - 2008.04.29 02:55:00 - [32] The final Cylon is probably Baltar. While he wasn't hearing All Along the Watchtower, he did say he was hearing some other music. Or he's just lost a few more marbles. Could explain Six as well. Originally by: Amoxin My vent is talking to me in a devil voice... Atomos' Guide to Forum Flaming
F'nog Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce	Posted - 2008.04.29 06:41:00 - [33] Originally by: Atomos Darksun The final Cylon is probably Baltar. While he wasn't hearing All Along the Watchtower, he did say he was hearing some other music. Or he's just lost a few more marbles. Could explain Six as well. Except that the creator has specifically said Baltar isn't a Cylon. Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said
Candice Bormardin Caldari Jouvulen Enterprises Inc.	Posted - 2008.04.29 07:07:00 - [34] Speaking about one Cyclon recognizing another, I wonder if they just don't have some continuity problems. Starbuck's husband is recognized by a raider across some distance of space while each is in their space ship (of course the raider is a space ship) but - the 6 in the cell with Col. Tigh gets much, much closer to him ... in fact she looks like she was about to have sex with him and yet she couldn't tell he was a Cylon. Of course then you have Col. Tigh seeing his wife's face on the 6 he was talking to - while she clearly did not realize that he was seeing her that way. This would tend to make the phantom Cylon's Baltar and others talk to seem more internal halucinations that something real. And yet - we've seen these halucinations act on material objects - such as lifting Baltar to his feet. Maybe the 12th Cylon isn't a physical Cylon at all. Maybe it's a virus with telekinetic power ... shrug Maybe Baltar is a Cylon and they lied to him when they said he wasn't ... Another odd thing about Baltar's Cylon test - it showed that Boomer was a Cylon but not any of the other members of the crew who presumably all took it.
Wild Rho Amarr GoonFleet	Posted - 2008.04.29 09:31:00 - [35] Edited by: Wild Rho on 29/04/2008 09:36:27 Originally by: Candice Bormardin Speaking about one Cyclon recognizing another, I wonder if they just don't have some continuity problems. Starbuck's husband is recognized by a raider across some distance of space while each is in their space ship (of course the raider is a space ship) but - the 6 in the cell with Col. Tigh gets much, much closer to him ... in fact she looks like she was about to have sex with him and yet she couldn't tell he was a Cylon. Well there's several different ways to look at that: - Until now he's been a "sleeper" and if you look back at the ep where the raider recognises him you do see a reaction at his end to (his eyes flicker red briefly) which could be the Cylon equivalent of an IFF burst. - It's never actually been stated that the Raiders or even the Centurions do not know who the final five are. The Raiders can't talk and until the very recent episodes the Centurions have had their "higher brain functions" suppressed so they follow orders without question. Originally by: Candice Bormardin And yet - we've seen these halucinations act on material objects - such as lifting Baltar to his feet. This is open to interpretation. When we see the hallucinations interact it could simply be that we're seeing this happening from Baltars perspective (which would make sense given we're watching him interact with someone who isn't there). It could simply be that he's physically interacting with whatever he "sees" Six doing and not realising it. Of course this means that the imaginary Six does have the ability to manipulate him in a quite powerful way. Originally by: Candice Bormardin Maybe Baltar is a Cylon and they lied to him when they said he wasn't ... It seems unlikely, the creators themselves said he isn't but I've been wonder recently if he could be one of these "original programmers". We don't really know anything about the nature of these people and Baltar does seem to be tied to the Cylons in some form. My other theory right now is that Starbuck may actually be the first Hybrid and the final Cylon (one of her actual parents) is on Earth already, I don't really have anything in the way of evidence, it's just a fun bit of random speculation I've made for now. Originally by: Candice Bormardin Another odd thing about Baltar's Cylon test - it showed that Boomer was a Cylon but not any of the other members of the crew who presumably all took it. He did state pretty clearly that he rigged it so it would show everyone as human "as it would cause less trouble" - I can't remember his exact words since it's been a while but the meaning is basically the same. It's also implied that he rigged the test right after Boomers as hers was the initial trial followed by the the constant switching between Adam/Rosylens where he reveals the test is now rigged.
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.29 16:44:00 - [36] Originally by: Candice Bormardin Speaking about one Cyclon recognizing another, I wonder if they just don't have some continuity problems. Starbuck's husband is recognized by a raider across some distance of space while each is in their space ship (of course the raider is a space ship) but - the 6 in the cell with Col. Tigh gets much, much closer to him ... in fact she looks like she was about to have sex with him and yet she couldn't tell he was a Cylon. Well, I thought the reason that the raider recognised Anders was because he transmitted something to it. Remember he was about to shoot it, then he couldn't due to a "rookie error", then the raider spins round to shoot him. Suddenly, Ander's eyes flash red and the raider does a U-turn and the battles over. Seems to me like some sort of OMFGEMERGENCY protocol went off in Anders, and the raider received a transmission from him with new orders (to bugger off). Seeing as that didn't happen with Tigh and 6, Tyrrol and Boomer or Baltar and anyone, we can assume that none of them were recognised to each other. ------ Originally by: Dark Shikari The problem with killing Jesus is he always just respawns 3 days later anyways.
Toasted Trucker Toasted Industries	Posted - 2008.04.29 17:12:00 - [37] the last cylon will be lee adama. i base this on the evil eye stare he gave last episode.
Tarminic Black Flame Industries	Posted - 2008.04.29 18:32:00 - [38] Originally by: Candice Bormardin Speaking about one Cyclon recognizing another, I wonder if they just don't have some continuity problems. Starbuck's husband is recognized by a raider across some distance of space while each is in their space ship (of course the raider is a space ship) but - the 6 in the cell with Col. Tigh gets much, much closer to him ... in fact she looks like she was about to have sex with him and yet she couldn't tell he was a Cylon. I think that there's something special about the raiders, to be honest. When the human cylons were debating whether to lobotomize them or not, they spoke about the Original Programmers designing the raiders for a purpose, and that they shouldn't tamper with their designs. I think that the raiders have some form of innate ability to recognize the final five cylons. Do the centurions have this ability as well? Impossible to say as they haven't encountered any since the four of them realized they were cylons. Quote: Maybe Baltar is a Cylon and they lied to him when they said he wasn't ... No way...given how they speak of the final five cylons, there would have been a noticeable change in their behavior towards him - specifically, they wouldn't have been so easily considering executing him on New Caprica when they forced him to sign the death warrant. ---------------- Tarminic - 35 Million SP in Forum Warfare Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.81 (Updated 4/8)
Jonathan Calvert Minmatar Empire Mining and Trade	Posted - 2008.04.29 18:53:00 - [39] Edited by: Jonathan Calvert on 29/04/2008 18:54:04 I agree, too much drama, not eneough scifi and pew pew. Compare the first season when they built a stealth Viper, and had to mine a planet for fuel to now when they barely run into a Cyclon fleet anymore. Whats the point of this show anymore? Star Trek has the same fate when they tried some series long story arc instead of just 1 hour of entertainment. And I think the final Cyclon is Baltar, the President, or Starbuck.
Kusha'an Gallente Equinox Industrial Co.	Posted - 2008.04.29 19:34:00 - [40] Originally by: Candice Bormardin Like I said, I've long since ceased to care about the show but I'll watch it just to see how all of this finally ends up. Which is more than I could say for Voyager. Once the half Klingon engineer whose name I'm not going to try to spell without looking it up got pregnant I just couldn't stand to watch a bunch of excruciatingly baby centric episodes so I just stopped. Tuned in for the finale but was busy playing a game while it was on so didn't catch much of that. Yeah, yeah, desperate measures, yeah, yeah super worm hole, yeah OK they're back - the end - thank goodness. 7 of 9 was the only reason I watched that show as long as I did. shrug Reminds me of Earth: Final Conflict. ---- What part of "shorn't" do you not understand?
Tarminic Black Flame Industries	Posted - 2008.04.29 19:35:00 - [41] Originally by: Jonathan Calvert Edited by: Jonathan Calvert on 29/04/2008 18:54:04 I agree, too much drama, not eneough scifi and pew pew. Compare the first season when they built a stealth Viper, and had to mine a planet for fuel to now when they barely run into a Cyclon fleet anymore. Whats the point of this show anymore? Star Trek has the same fate when they tried some series long story arc instead of just 1 hour of entertainment. Yes, god forbid the explosions take a backseat to character development! I like the fact that they don't get involved in an epic battle every other episode. Hell, if they did they'd run out of ammo, fighters, and crew in no time. Plus, it makes the awesome battles even cooler. ---------------- Tarminic - 35 Million SP in Forum Warfare Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.81 (Updated 4/8)
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.29 19:49:00 - [42] Originally by: Tarminic Originally by: Jonathan Calvert Edited by: Jonathan Calvert on 29/04/2008 18:54:04 I agree, too much drama, not eneough scifi and pew pew. Compare the first season when they built a stealth Viper, and had to mine a planet for fuel to now when they barely run into a Cyclon fleet anymore. Whats the point of this show anymore? Star Trek has the same fate when they tried some series long story arc instead of just 1 hour of entertainment. Yes, god forbid the explosions take a backseat to character development! I like the fact that they don't get involved in an epic battle every other episode. Hell, if they did they'd run out of ammo, fighters, and crew in no time. Plus, it makes the awesome battles even cooler. I definitely tend to agree. I'd be bored sick of it if the program was nothing but shakey-cam explosions the whole time. The reason I like BSG over others of it's types is the dark, gritty character development. The awesome looking battles are some of the series highlights, but not the point of watching the show. If I just wanted to watch ships blow up, I'd log on to EVE or Freespace or Nexus or Sins or something and watch a demo round or two ------ Originally by: Dark Shikari The problem with killing Jesus is he always just respawns 3 days later anyways.
Ryysa Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2008.04.29 23:53:00 - [43] 4th episode sucked though, seriously. It was somehow ridiculous at times, made me lose interest. Hasn't happened before. I guess too much of the "crazy" stuff in one episode isn't a good idea. EW Guide - KB Tool - My Music
jongalt	Posted - 2008.04.30 01:19:00 - [44] the final cylon will be tom zarek (richard hatch). cue the scene (and its composition) where he's talking to lee adama about "the truth staring you in the face". it's him. just you wait. (he's the only one connected to the old series too - and R & D are not above playing "meta-games" with both series...) -jg.
Valeena Malis Amarr The Dark Guards	Posted - 2008.04.30 09:24:00 - [45] I have the feeling that the producers are showing a darker days to the fleet and to the Cylons in this first episodes. We have Cylon civil war, divisions inside the Galactica, religious cults apearing everywhere, cylons inside the Galactica fighting with themselves to understand what they really are and so on. I think this initial episode phase will be about the inner struggles of everyone. Something tells me also that after this we will see some great action moments.
Jonathan Calvert Minmatar Empire Mining and Trade	Posted - 2008.04.30 12:17:00 - [46] Edited by: Jonathan Calvert on 30/04/2008 12:17:40 Originally by: Patch86 Originally by: Tarminic Originally by: Jonathan Calvert Edited by: Jonathan Calvert on 29/04/2008 18:54:04 I agree, too much drama, not eneough scifi and pew pew. Compare the first season when they built a stealth Viper, and had to mine a planet for fuel to now when they barely run into a Cyclon fleet anymore. Whats the point of this show anymore? Star Trek has the same fate when they tried some series long story arc instead of just 1 hour of entertainment. Yes, god forbid the explosions take a backseat to character development! I like the fact that they don't get involved in an epic battle every other episode. Hell, if they did they'd run out of ammo, fighters, and crew in no time. Plus, it makes the awesome battles even cooler. I definitely tend to agree. I'd be bored sick of it if the program was nothing but shakey-cam explosions the whole time. The reason I like BSG over others of it's types is the dark, gritty character development. The awesome looking battles are some of the series highlights, but not the point of watching the show. If I just wanted to watch ships blow up, I'd log on to EVE or Freespace or Nexus or Sins or something and watch a demo round or two Except theres been almost no conflict with the Cylons this season. At the very beginning we had a small fight, and they all fled. Now its just drama. The point of this show is that humans have been almost wiped out by the Cylons. The only drama we should have is Why did the Cylons do this? And how do the humans survive and fight back. Instead we get political intrigue about some religious crap, some religious crap from toasters, and now more religious crap with Balter and his Harem. Im not asking for for all fighting, although with the last season upon us, youd think wed be at the climax. Heck, I can watch any number of drams on tv to get the exact same thing. BSG is a space scifi, and people watch it because of the scifi and the space, not unoriginal plots.
Glassback Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2008.04.30 12:28:00 - [47] Yeh, E4 was a bit of a filler. I just hope the answers to our questions are good! G.
Kalahari Wayrest Re-Awakened Technologies Inc	Posted - 2008.04.30 14:00:00 - [48] Quote: The only drama we should have is Why did the Cylons do this? And how do the humans survive and fight back. Instead we get political intrigue about some religious crap, some religious crap from toasters, and now more religious crap with Balter and his Harem. Im not asking for for all fighting, although with the last season upon us, youd think wed be at the climax. Heck, I can watch any number of drams on tv to get the exact same thing. BSG is a space scifi, and people watch it because of the scifi and the space, not unoriginal plots. You don't represent my viewing tastes, gg. (personally I'd much prefer them doing something innovative than getting stuck in a percieved genre boundary. Since they 'reimagined' it BSG has never been a space scifi - it's always been part drama, part sci fi, part action, part opera-epic and so on. I agree it's started a little slow given where they left off, but that's fairy normal for the beginning of a season to 'reset' the intrigue, even in the last season, to give the writers something to build up to) __________________________ Indulge Me Consider Yourself Indulged - Immy ♥ Wow immy scored - Xorus
Jonathan Calvert Minmatar Empire Mining and Trade	Posted - 2008.04.30 14:14:00 - [49] Edited by: Jonathan Calvert on 30/04/2008 14:16:00 {quote] You don't represent my viewing tastes, gg. My bad. I thought this was a discussion forum, where I could express my opinion. I didnt know I had to consult you first for your agreement. Unfortunately, I think the consensus in this thread is that your viewing tastes dont represent most everyone else.
Kalahari Wayrest Re-Awakened Technologies Inc	Posted - 2008.04.30 14:47:00 - [50] Edited by: Kalahari Wayrest on 30/04/2008 14:48:31 Quote: My bad. I thought this was a discussion forum, where I could express my opinion. I didnt know I had to consult you first for your agreement. Unfortunately, I think the consensus in this thread is that your viewing tastes dont represent most everyone else. You can, of course. But your opinion implied that you spoke for everyone. (I bolded the parts of your quote that showed this.) Me having different viewing tastes than the ones you claimed everyone had, automatically proves that not everyone has them And no, my viewing tastes wouldn't represent everyone elses - given that they're mine. The difference is, I only claimed to speak for myself __________________________ Indulge Me Consider Yourself Indulged - Immy ♥ Wow immy scored - Xorus
Mtthias Clemi Gallente The Space Bastards	Posted - 2008.04.30 14:57:00 - [51] Originally by: Kalahari Wayrest Edited by: Kalahari Wayrest on 30/04/2008 14:48:31 Quote: My bad. I thought this was a discussion forum, where I could express my opinion. I didnt know I had to consult you first for your agreement. Unfortunately, I think the consensus in this thread is that your viewing tastes dont represent most everyone else. You can, of course. But your opinion implied that you spoke for everyone. (I bolded the parts of your quote that showed this.) Me having different viewing tastes than the ones you claimed everyone had, automatically proves that not everyone has them And no, my viewing tastes wouldn't represent everyone elses - given that they're mine. The difference is, I only claimed to speak for myself I almost completely agree with you! I like the depth and the darkness about it, although i do wish they would have a few more dark deep stories that involved weaponry.. such as the one with the raider that they kept losing pilots too, loved that one (scar was it?)
Dravius Luxor Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2008.04.30 15:01:00 - [52] Ah, good old Battlestar! The new bible. Here's the deal: The Lords of Kobol create Man (subservient automaton for carrying out chores). Man develops a 'soul', fights with his creators, and is expelled from Kobol. Did Man exterminate the Lords of Kobol in a furious act of genocide...? I don't know. The next we hear about man is that he has established twelve seperate and entirely unique colonies. There are myths of a thirteenth. Man creates Cylon, a subservient automaton for carrying out chores. Cylon develops a 'soul', fights with his creators, and is expelled from the colonies. The next we hear about the cylons is that they have evolved themselves into twelve seperate and entirely unique models - and then they do exterminate humanity in a furious act of genocide. And... um, now the cylons are lobotomising their raiders? Making them subservient automatons... "All of this has happened before, and all of this will happen again" I love it! Finally; the serpents numbering two and ten - were they Roslin's hallucination, or in fact Vipers? Is Roslin really the dying leader in Pithia? Not convinced. Is that old arrow actually the arrow of Apollo? Or is Starbuck the arrow of Apollo? Bleh! I could go on all day...
Tarminic Black Flame Industries	Posted - 2008.04.30 15:08:00 - [53] Originally by: Dravius Luxor Ah, good old Battlestar! The new bible. Here's the deal: The Lords of Kobol create Man (subservient automaton for carrying out chores). Man develops a 'soul', fights with his creators, and is expelled from Kobol. Did Man exterminate the Lords of Kobol in a furious act of genocide...? I don't know. The next we hear about man is that he has established twelve seperate and entirely unique colonies. There are myths of a thirteenth. Man creates Cylon, a subservient automaton for carrying out chores. Cylon develops a 'soul', fights with his creators, and is expelled from the colonies. The next we hear about the cylons is that they have evolved themselves into twelve seperate and entirely unique models - and then they do exterminate humanity in a furious act of genocide. And... um, now the cylons are lobotomising their raiders? Making them subservient automatons... "All of this has happened before, and all of this will happen again" I love it! Holy **! ---------------- Tarminic - 35 Million SP in Forum Warfare Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.81 (Updated 4/8)**
Mtthias Clemi Gallente The Space Bastards	Posted - 2008.04.30 16:03:00 - [54] Originally by: Dravius Luxor Ah, good old Battlestar! The new bible. Here's the deal: The Lords of Kobol create Man (subservient automaton for carrying out chores). Man develops a 'soul', fights with his creators, and is expelled from Kobol. Did Man exterminate the Lords of Kobol in a furious act of genocide...? I don't know. The next we hear about man is that he has established twelve seperate and entirely unique colonies. There are myths of a thirteenth. Man creates Cylon, a subservient automaton for carrying out chores. Cylon develops a 'soul', fights with his creators, and is expelled from the colonies. The next we hear about the cylons is that they have evolved themselves into twelve seperate and entirely unique models - and then they do exterminate humanity in a furious act of genocide. And... um, now the cylons are lobotomising their raiders? Making them subservient automatons... "All of this has happened before, and all of this will happen again" I love it! Finally; the serpents numbering two and ten - were they Roslin's hallucination, or in fact Vipers? Is Roslin really the dying leader in Pithia? Not convinced. Is that old arrow actually the arrow of Apollo? Or is Starbuck the arrow of Apollo? Bleh! I could go on all day... verrryyy goood
Dravius Luxor Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2008.04.30 16:24:00 - [55] Hehe I won't get started on Baltar, 6, and 'God'... In some ways I want it to end, so I know the answers, but in other ways I really don't want it to end!
goodby4u Logistic Technologies Incorporated	Posted - 2008.04.30 16:47:00 - [56] Originally by: Dravius Luxor Ah, good old Battlestar! The new bible. Here's the deal: The Lords of Kobol create Man (subservient automaton for carrying out chores). Man develops a 'soul', fights with his creators, and is expelled from Kobol. Did Man exterminate the Lords of Kobol in a furious act of genocide...? I don't know. The next we hear about man is that he has established twelve seperate and entirely unique colonies. There are myths of a thirteenth. Man creates Cylon, a subservient automaton for carrying out chores. Cylon develops a 'soul', fights with his creators, and is expelled from the colonies. The next we hear about the cylons is that they have evolved themselves into twelve seperate and entirely unique models - and then they do exterminate humanity in a furious act of genocide. And... um, now the cylons are lobotomising their raiders? Making them subservient automatons... "All of this has happened before, and all of this will happen again" I love it! Finally; the serpents numbering two and ten - were they Roslin's hallucination, or in fact Vipers? Is Roslin really the dying leader in Pithia? Not convinced. Is that old arrow actually the arrow of Apollo? Or is Starbuck the arrow of Apollo? Bleh! I could go on all day... No, dumbing down the raiders is the attempt to make sure they dont get a soul and rebel....A wise decision from 1, but the mental behaviour of 6 is puzzling.
Jacob Mei	Posted - 2008.04.30 16:51:00 - [57] I dont have any proof to this or not but I suspect that Roslin is not going to live to see the end of the season and her replacement will be Lee. I doubt the remaining powers that be would let zeric reclaim the role of presidency and he knows it. Lee is also quickly gaining popularity with his in roslins face approach among his fellow corum members. Just a thought.
Jonathan Calvert Minmatar Empire Mining and Trade	Posted - 2008.04.30 17:31:00 - [58] Originally by: Kalahari Wayrest Edited by: Kalahari Wayrest on 30/04/2008 14:48:31 Quote: My bad. I thought this was a discussion forum, where I could express my opinion. I didnt know I had to consult you first for your agreement. Unfortunately, I think the consensus in this thread is that your viewing tastes dont represent most everyone else. You can, of course. But your opinion implied that you spoke for everyone. (I bolded the parts of your quote that showed this.) Me having different viewing tastes than the ones you claimed everyone had, automatically proves that not everyone has them And no, my viewing tastes wouldn't represent everyone elses - given that they're mine. The difference is, I only claimed to speak for myself I understand, but you could have just addresed the comments I made instead of attacking my posting style. Using generalities is common in debate. Havent you ever said, "everyones ****ed about boot.ini getting deleted" or "everyone hates war". When someone used the WE or EVERYONE they are expressing their opinion that those groups agree, or at least the general consensus. Again, this thread is backing me up. Most people seem to think that more action is needed, and less drama.
Kusha'an Gallente Equinox Industrial Co.	Posted - 2008.04.30 18:39:00 - [59] Originally by: Dravius Luxor Hehe I won't get started on Baltar, 6, and 'God'... In some ways I want it to end, so I know the answers, but in other ways I really don't want it to end! No, no...see, what you want is for it to end, so you can buy the DVD set, and watch it from the beginning and see how everything ties in! ---- What part of "shorn't" do you not understand?
Kalahari Wayrest Re-Awakened Technologies Inc	Posted - 2008.04.30 18:48:00 - [60] Quote: I understand, but you could have just addresed the comments I made instead of attacking my posting style. Using generalities is common in debate. Havent you ever said, "everyones **ed about boot.ini getting deleted" or "everyone hates war". When someone used the WE or EVERYONE they are expressing their opinion that those groups agree, or at least the general consensus. Again, this thread is backing me up. Most people seem to think that more action is needed, and less drama. To clarify: When you saw my response of "You don't represent my viewing tastes, gg." you interpreted this as not allowing you to "express your opinion" and you now view it as "attacking your post style." When I saw you state "the only drama we should have..." and your statement of why "people watch it" I interpreted it as not conceeding a contrary opinion could exist or be valid. (If I was going to be really sensitive about it, I'd suggest it doesn't allow me an existence let alone an opinion! ) It might be common to generalise, but speaking for others is guarenteed to come off arrogant to people who disagree with you. (as I'm sure this explanation is coming across as patronising) As for the thread backing you up - are you concerned about the right to 'express your opinion' or do you see a debate as something to be 'won?' (and yes, I know I wrote 'gg' but I was joking ) A common consensus of what people like probably isn't going to change what I like. (and really it's not surprising if the majority of people want pew pew on a forum about internet spaceships!) That doesn't mean if I hear a good arguement I won't take it on board, but with something as subjective as opinions of a TV show there's little you can really debate apart from the facts which make up those opinions. (I like this and so should everybody else isn't really an arguement) I did address the content rather than style of your arguement in the brackets, feel free to focus on them instead of posting style and I'll do the same. If it helps, I didn't mean to personally attack you anymore than I'm sure you didn't mean to talk for me, deny me a view or imply my taste is crap. Bottom line is one of semantics, as most forum disputes are. We're creating more drama BSG is, though we aren't nearly as entertaining. TL;DR** Kiss and make up? __________________________ Indulge Me Consider Yourself Indulged - Immy ♥ Wow immy scored - Xorus
Nuala Reece Caldari Trinity Nova Trinity Nova Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.30 21:57:00 - [61] Originally by: jongalt the final cylon will be tom zarek (richard hatch). cue the scene (and its composition) where he's talking to lee adama about "the truth staring you in the face". it's him. just you wait. (he's the only one connected to the old series too - and R & D are not above playing "meta-games" with both series...) -jg. Ooh - why didn't I think of that? I've been holding to the idea that Leoban was telling the truth when he told the President "Adama is a cylon" right back in the first season, but it never occurred to me to connect to an Adama from the original series. I think I'd actually be quite happy to see that Zarek as the final Cylon now Trinity Nova Mercenary Services Web Site - Nominated for the 2008 E-ON Magazine Awards
Dravius Luxor Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2008.04.30 22:13:00 - [62] Originally by: Kusha'an Originally by: Dravius Luxor Hehe I won't get started on Baltar, 6, and 'God'... In some ways I want it to end, so I know the answers, but in other ways I really don't want it to end! No, no...see, what you want is for it to end, so you can buy the DVD set, and watch it from the beginning and see how everything ties in! Yup! And that comment above me about Zarech is very intriguing... I'll be frustrated as well as overjoyed when I find out who it is, because I simply can't decide. "Adama is a cylon" (not Bill Adama, just Adama - oooh!) Ellen. Roslin? Starbuck? Baltar? Just a few things I'm considering... I must find something important to do...
Gneeznow Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.04.30 23:11:00 - [63] I have a feeling that by the end of the series it will transpire that the BSG and convoy will reach earth and it will be uninhabited, and settle there, with renegade cylons, 6's and boomer's and it will turn out that it is the foundation of modern humanity on earth, with the followers of the old gods settling in italy and the followers of the one god settling in the fertile crescent (palistine) Maybe that is far fetched but the ancient romans and greeks worshiped many gods, and the birth place of judaism which is the oldest of the religions from the 4 holy books started out in palestine.
kessah The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.04.30 23:13:00 - [64] ok i watched the first 4 episodes. TBH reckon that writer strike they had back along affected this season... I actually found myself browsing eve-o forums during some parts of this season. After reading whats to come on tv.com well i cant say im looking forward to it.. at all. Another truce with the cylons... christ sake i wanted to see them hunt them down until we found earth, find out earth has some **** off big guns and watch a massive war and live happily ever after; cue unanwsered questioned ending for a possible film; then wait for the video game to be realeased LOL. I do want to be surprised ofc, but tbh im bored already. Ugh... Prolly would have given it more slack if it wernt so long since i watch the previous seris, left us all on such a high aswell!
F'nog Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce	Posted - 2008.04.30 23:14:00 - [65] Originally by: Dravius Luxor Originally by: Kusha'an Originally by: Dravius Luxor Hehe I won't get started on Baltar, 6, and 'God'... In some ways I want it to end, so I know the answers, but in other ways I really don't want it to end! No, no...see, what you want is for it to end, so you can buy the DVD set, and watch it from the beginning and see how everything ties in! Yup! And that comment above me about Zarech is very intriguing... I'll be frustrated as well as overjoyed when I find out who it is, because I simply can't decide. "Adama is a cylon" (not Bill Adama, just Adama - oooh!) Ellen. Roslin? Starbuck? Baltar? Just a few things I'm considering... I must find something important to do... As I and others have said elsewhere, only Ellen is a possibility, based on what Moore has said, though he only specified 2 or the 3 Adamas. So to reiterate my top 3 list: Billy Zach the Priestess Zarick D Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said
Kusha'an Gallente Equinox Industrial Co.	Posted - 2008.04.30 23:28:00 - [66] Originally by: Gneeznow I have a feeling that by the end of the series it will transpire that the BSG and convoy will reach earth and it will be uninhabited, and settle there, with renegade cylons, 6's and boomer's and it will turn out that it is the foundation of modern humanity on earth, with the followers of the old gods settling in italy and the followers of the one god settling in the fertile crescent (palistine) Maybe that is far fetched but the ancient romans and greeks worshiped many gods, and the birth place of judaism which is the oldest of the religions from the 4 holy books started out in palestine. Except for that pesky technology thing. Unless you think they went backwards? ---- What part of "shorn't" do you not understand?
F'nog Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce	Posted - 2008.05.01 01:03:00 - [67] Originally by: Kusha'an Originally by: Gneeznow I have a feeling that by the end of the series it will transpire that the BSG and convoy will reach earth and it will be uninhabited, and settle there, with renegade cylons, 6's and boomer's and it will turn out that it is the foundation of modern humanity on earth, with the followers of the old gods settling in italy and the followers of the one god settling in the fertile crescent (palistine) Maybe that is far fetched but the ancient romans and greeks worshiped many gods, and the birth place of judaism which is the oldest of the religions from the 4 holy books started out in palestine. Except for that pesky technology thing. Unless you think they went backwards? Ever watch Stargate? Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said
Nicky Rostu Gallente Fading Star Heavy Industries	Posted - 2008.05.01 01:13:00 - [68] Originally by: Dravius Luxor Ellen. Roslin? Starbuck? Baltar? Just a few things I'm considering... I must find something important to do... Gaeta! It's Gaeta!
jongalt	Posted - 2008.05.01 18:42:00 - [69] i dont think it will be any character that is currently portrayed in the BSG version of "the last supper" that is currently on display on the bsg website. it is interesting to "read" the photograph though - in the context of the original painting. for thos that havent, y'all should read the art history interpretation about daVinci's "Last Supper": its very interesting... i also dont think it will be another "main" character; they already shot their wad with at least 2 (tyrell and colonel tigh) main characters turning out to be cylons. starbuck is a red herring. shes not a cylon. her "arc" is there to fool you into suspecting she is. her "arc" is about knowing who you are in the face of total doubt and "believing in yourself". i have a suspicioun that the final cylon will one who was present >on the planet< where they found out about the nebula. lucy lawless sees who the final cylon is on that planet and is immediately like "oh its you!", which to me suggests it was one of those present (on the planet). she hadnt met many (if any at all) other "humans" before that story-arc. that leaves zareck (richard hatch). (who was present on the planet, who was also a freedom-fighter fighting for equal rights everywhere, who was an adama, who tells lee he hopes he will do the right thing "when truth is staring you in the face")
Tarminic Black Flame Industries	Posted - 2008.05.01 18:50:00 - [70] We're all forgetting someone important. Anastasia Dualla Leoben said that "Adama is a Cylon," correct? Well this obviously suggests the Admiral or Lee. BUT! We've all forgotten that even though everyone still refers to her as "Dualla," she's married to Lee, and there's been noting in the series to indicate that they're divorced, only separated. Which makes her legal last name - that's right - Adama. How's about them apples? ---------------- Tarminic - 35 Million SP in Forum Warfare Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.81 (Updated 4/8)
Wild Rho Amarr GoonFleet	Posted - 2008.05.01 19:57:00 - [71] Edited by: Wild Rho on 01/05/2008 19:59:19 Edited by: Wild Rho on 01/05/2008 19:58:55 Originally by: jongalt that leaves zareck (richard hatch). (who was present on the planet, who was also a freedom-fighter fighting for equal rights everywhere, who was an adama, who tells lee he hopes he will do the right thing "when truth is staring you in the face") I think the cylon she saw there was actually Anders, hence why she asked for forgiveness (remember she was about to kill him when they were buried under the ruins of the bomb on Caprica). It would make sense she'd think "oh**" when she realised one of the final five she'd been searching so hard for was someone she almost killed. Originally by:** Tarminic We're all forgetting someone important. Anastasia Dualla Leoben said that "Adama is a Cylon," correct? Well this obviously suggests the Admiral or Lee. BUT! We've all forgotten that even though everyone still refers to her as "Dualla," she's married to Lee, and there's been noting in the series to indicate that they're divorced, only separated. Which makes her legal last name - that's right - Adama. How's about them apples? Except he said it long before they were married or even in a relationship. You could argue he was predicting things to come but it doesn't really seem right.
Tarminic Black Flame Industries	Posted - 2008.05.01 20:58:00 - [72] Originally by: Wild Rho Except he said it long before they were married or even in a relationship. You could argue he was predicting things to come but it doesn't really seem right. Except Leoben has made accurate prophecies in the past, and seems to know a whole lot of things that he shouldn't. For example, he knew of Starbuck's "special destiny" and knew that Starbuck would tell him that she loves him (which he did). Could it be coincidence? Maybe. But I think not. ---------------- Tarminic - 35 Million SP in Forum Warfare Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.81 (Updated 4/8)
Wild Rho Amarr GoonFleet	Posted - 2008.05.01 21:04:00 - [73] That's a good point actually, although it seems to be a bit of an anti climax with her being the final cylon.
Mtthias Clemi Gallente The Space Bastards	Posted - 2008.05.01 21:09:00 - [74] Im the final cylon!! muahahahahahahah
goodby4u Logistic Technologies Incorporated	Posted - 2008.05.03 03:13:00 - [75] So I just watched the latest BSG, and uhhh...I think because of that there should be such thing as character overdevelopement.. I meant come on, we need more pew pew.
pwnedgato	Posted - 2008.05.03 03:20:00 - [76] Honestly at this point almost every character in BSG has more depth than 95% of the people I know... (including myself)
ReaperOfSly Gallente Lyrus Associates	Posted - 2008.05.03 10:19:00 - [77] Yeah well the character are deep enough already. I want to see a battle!
goodby4u Logistic Technologies Incorporated	Posted - 2008.05.03 10:22:00 - [78] Originally by: ReaperOfSly Yeah well the character are deep enough already. I want to see a battle! Or atleast somekind of developement(finding earth and getting allies or a warfare type of build up). I mean BSG is starting to turn into a scifi reality tv show where you have alot of anti social people beating the frack out of eachother and ultimately do not progress.
Ryysa The Illuminati. Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2008.05.03 11:13:00 - [79] I'm actually wondering if I should keep watching this at all. Haven't ever before fast forwarded through parts, but when Baltar's harem crap started for the 3947543543453854th time, I went after the FF button =/
Kravick Drasari	Posted - 2008.05.03 11:47:00 - [80] BSG is turning into a soap opera in space. The Cylon insurrection was interesting. I liked that part. This stuff with Baltar needs to stop though. I find that character extremely boring now. The crazy Cylon lady thats in his mind is fine but this religious crap needs to go.
HankMurphy Minmatar Pelennor Swarm Phalanx Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.03 20:04:00 - [81] Originally by: Kravick Drasari BSG is turning into a soap opera in space. The Cylon insurrection was interesting. I liked that part. This stuff with Baltar needs to stop though. I find that character extremely boring now. The crazy Cylon lady thats in his mind is fine but this religious crap needs to go. battlestar always has been a soap opera in space. both in the late 70's and now its a character drama first and foremost. that being said, you like it or you dont. what you are witnessing now is something most shows wont ever attempt, the finalization of a plot line. we could have more pew pew (and i'm all for it) and they could continue to try and escalate the stakes and keep the show running forever and ever and ever.... and like most shows that do that, after season 6 everyone would say 'they should have quit while they were ahead'. i find this 4th season to be pretty intriguing. we are seeing the characters morph into what will eventually climax into a great grand finale. its a tragedy, so this is the downward spiral and i really dont think i've seen a show this good ever. to each their own. personally, it doesn't get any better than this. if todays tv shows were books, i look at bsg as classic lit / Shakespearian even where the run of the mill are more like harry potter / eregon / what have you (terrible analogy i know, but i think it sort of applies) bottom line, it breaks the mold, i like that. it does it w/ depth and consistency and in a very artistic way. /flame on
pwnedgato	Posted - 2008.05.03 20:08:00 - [82] Shakespeare himself was a great fan of brevity.
HankMurphy Minmatar Pelennor Swarm Phalanx Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.03 20:45:00 - [83] Originally by: pwnedgato Shakespeare himself was a great fan of brevity. you disagree w/ the analogy or making fun of the length of my post? either way, valid point. touche
pwnedgato	Posted - 2008.05.03 20:59:00 - [84] I pride myself on creating the illusion of depth in my posts
Alias Alpha	Posted - 2008.05.03 23:45:00 - [85] This last episode I was kinda blah on..... Although an alliance between skin jobs and the hummies would be cool.
Niama Freelance Unincorporated	Posted - 2008.05.04 10:33:00 - [86] Originally by: pwnedgato I pride myself on creating the illusion of depth in my posts lol awesome quote :) you are perfect just as you are (barfs little inside with the bartar cult plotline)
Krxon Blade	Posted - 2008.05.04 10:33:00 - [87] Potential SPOILER: In last episode they will attack each others near Earth, in massive blob fest, system will lag and node crash. Carebear Earthlings will petition to God about how dangerous is to fly around, then He will send giant solar storm to wipe em all. Starback and Apollo will be the only survivors, with great duty to repopulate Earth again. Last scene: Apolo is playing with their 20 kids, Starbuck is waving to them, than she looks straight in the camera, puts evil grin on her face, her eyes turns into red and history rewinds. The End
Dirtee Girl Omega Enterprises Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2008.05.06 05:54:00 - [88] the last cylon is baltar man he has visions of being in other places he projects himself into he talks to that phantom 6 whose in his head . it's gotta be baltar . * *
Crise Minmatar Pelennor Swarm	Posted - 2008.05.10 03:25:00 - [89] Just finished this weeks episode. I would say it was better than the last few but still nowhere near what it was. It is very obvious that the writers are trying desperately to keep us holding on. In the middle of this episode I thought, "this is why books and movies will never come close to TV". Simply put if your reading the book or watching the movie you already paid for it. No need to hold the action back. The good news is I can cancel my cable subscription knowing I'm not missing anything and keep a few bucks out of the pocket of my crappy cable provider (charter). I still think BSG is the best sci-fi series produced but its over. My second favorite was farscape, they kept it going all the way to the end.
Gneeznow Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.05.10 08:12:00 - [90] Originally by: Dirtee Girl the last cylon is baltar man he has visions of being in other places he projects himself into he talks to that phantom 6 whose in his head . it's gotta be baltar . When the get to earth, and I reckon it will transpire that the convoy will be the foundation for modern humanity, I think baltar will turn out to be jesus, preaching the word of the one god, calling it now.
Draeca Aliastra	Posted - 2008.05.10 19:08:00 - [91] Do the cylon baseship pilots, the ones floating in goo, remind anyone else of eve's podpilots?
Frezik Basically Outdated Stereo Equiptment	Posted - 2008.05.11 02:47:00 - [92] Originally by: Dravius Luxor "Adama is a cylon" (not Bill Adama, just Adama - oooh!) I really wish people would stop quoting this. It's almost certainly misdirection planted to create distrust between Adama and Roslin. Also, Gaeta crys like a girl. Suck it up, man!
Ryysa The Illuminati. Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2008.05.11 10:05:00 - [93] The last episode restored my faith into the show being decent :P EW Guide - KB Tool - My Music
ReaperOfSly Gallente Lyrus Associates	Posted - 2008.05.11 10:48:00 - [94] Yay, finally something happened to progress the story slightly. --------------------------------------------------------------------
HankMurphy Minmatar Pelennor Enterprises	Posted - 2008.05.11 18:02:00 - [95] Originally by: Gneeznow When the get to earth, and I reckon it will transpire that the convoy will be the foundation for modern humanity, I think baltar will turn out to be jesus, preaching the word of the one god, calling it now. god i hope not, but they sure seem to be heading in that direction this last episode was pretty cool. the whole boat crossing the river thing gave me a flashback of an old macgyver episode. looks like admiral adama and athena are the only characters that haven't done a complete 180. wondering what they gonna do w/ this basestar and the 'free thinking' cylons. and better question, what are they going to do w/ that hybrid. did they kill it or just turn it off for a bit? and lol at Gaeta whiny ***** ------------------------------ of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most
ReaperOfSly Gallente Lyrus Associates	Posted - 2008.05.11 20:11:00 - [96] They disconnected the hybrid, it's not been explicitly stated whether this killed it or not. They said disconnecting would probably kill it. That centurion certainly thought they were killing it. I can't wait until next week when the Demetrius turns up with a cylon base-star in tow. The look on Adama's face is going to be brilliant --------------------------------------------------------------------
Kusha'an Gallente Equinox Industrial Co.	Posted - 2008.05.12 11:52:00 - [97] Edited by: Kusha''an on 12/05/2008 11:53:59 Originally by: ReaperOfSly I can't wait until next week when the Demetrius turns up with a cylon base-star in tow. The look on Adama's face is going to be brilliant QFT. And Roslin: "It's another Cylon trick!" And of course the Demetrius will fail to use good tactics, such as leaving the basestar one jump back while the Demetrius goes ahead to explain what's going to happen, in order to forestall any jumpy gunners launching nukes when the basestar arrives. ---- What part of "shorn't" do you not understand?
Rutoo Gallente Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.05.12 17:05:00 - [98] Ok i can comment on this now I finally caved Downloaded and watched all episodes, I'm all caught up Started April 30th Finished today - yaa Less than 2 weeks 60 some shows. After i watched the mini-series i couldn't stop. _________________________________________________________ My Second EvE Video Club Seals Not Sandwichs
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.12 21:23:00 - [99] Originally by: Kusha'an And of course the Demetrius will fail to use good tactics, such as leaving the basestar one jump back while the Demetrius goes ahead to explain what's going to happen, in order to forestall any jumpy gunners launching nukes when the basestar arrives. And forsake some good dramatic tension? Surely not. ------ Originally by: Dark Shikari The problem with killing Jesus is he always just respawns 3 days later anyways.
Roxanna Kell Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2008.05.12 22:06:00 - [100] Can the president die all ready, I sorta had a crush on her, now they showed her hairless.ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww. BTW, Is star buck going to make the whole fleet jump through that swirling gas cloud and kill them all? Quote: There is no Dishonor in winning fools, so do it any way you can.
Wendat Huron Stellar Solutions	Posted - 2008.05.12 22:36:00 - [101] Originally by: Roxanna Kell Can the president die all ready, I sorta had a crush on her, now they showed her hairless.ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww. BTW, Is star buck going to make the whole fleet jump through that swirling gas cloud and kill them all? Aah, the empathy! I do hope someone drowns Baltar in that river of his soon. These forums are FUBAR, upgrade this decade!
kessah The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.05.12 22:54:00 - [102] Originally by: Roxanna Kell Can the president die all ready, I sorta had a crush on her, now they showed her hairless.ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww. BTW, Is star buck going to make the whole fleet jump through that swirling gas cloud and kill them all? lol sick. Well its finally picking up at least. Wonder what salvage they could get from that basestar....
Wren Alterana Minmatar The Baros Syndicate Kissaki Republic	Posted - 2008.05.13 00:57:00 - [103] I'd hope they get some Tech II launchers out of it. _________ Dynamic Maps
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2008.05.13 03:44:00 - [104] Some metal scraps and a bunch of homeless that will never leave. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Jacob Mei	Posted - 2008.05.13 05:59:00 - [105] I wonder what is going to happen to the cylons when they finally manage to put faces to the final five. Remember when Diana did that in her vision, she went into a self destruct mode but was saved because the ressurrection ship was in range, these cylons dont have that luxery anymore. If they do go into a self destruct mode I would imagine that the colonials will try to use the final 5 as a mass weapon on the other cylon faction, given how they were willing to infect them with that virus I wouldnt put it past them. -------------------------------- To borrow a phrase: EvE players who post are like stars, there are bright ones and those who are dim.
Roxanna Kell Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2008.05.13 11:43:00 - [106] The final 5 know the way, whats that about, The Cl, the chief and that b*h don't seem to know the way from the looks of it. let alone sanders who is always confused. And since Cara needs to know who the final 5 are, why doesn't sanders just say, she wont kill him if she needs him. Quote:** There is no Dishonor in winning fools, so do it any way you can.
Kusha'an Gallente Equinox Industrial Co.	Posted - 2008.05.13 14:43:00 - [107] Originally by: Danton Marcellus Some metal scraps and a bunch of homeless that will never leave. QFT for the win. ---- What part of "shorn't" do you not understand?
Jacob Mei	Posted - 2008.05.13 17:20:00 - [108] Originally by: Roxanna Kell The final 5 know the way, whats that about, The Cl, the chief and that b***h don't seem to know the way from the looks of it. let alone sanders who is always confused. And since Cara needs to know who the final 5 are, why doesn't sanders just say, she wont kill him if she needs him. When she came back she said out right to him that if he was a cylon shed kill him. The final 5 just seem to be aware that they are cylons and nothing else, they dont seem to possess any concous (sp) control over their abilities, IE Anders flashed that signal to the raider unconcously and even afterwords he wasnt sure what it was. -------------------------------- To borrow a phrase: Players who post are like stars, there are bright ones and those who are dim.
Roxanna Kell Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2008.05.13 23:27:00 - [109] Originally by: Jacob Mei Originally by: Roxanna Kell The final 5 know the way, whats that about, The Cl, the chief and that b*h don't seem to know the way from the looks of it. let alone sanders who is always confused. And since Cara needs to know who the final 5 are, why doesn't sanders just say, she wont kill him if she needs him. When she came back she said out right to him that if he was a cylon shed kill him. The final 5 just seem to be aware that they are cylons and nothing else, they dont seem to possess any concous (sp) control over their abilities, IE Anders flashed that signal to the raider unconcously and even afterwords he wasnt sure what it was. she didn't need him back than. I gotta say the whole things about SB drawing the future or whatever is a bit annoying, mysticism has overtaken this sci fi a bit. Quote:** There is no Dishonor in winning fools, so do it any way you can.
Jacob Mei	Posted - 2008.05.13 23:32:00 - [110] Originally by: Roxanna Kell Originally by: Jacob Mei Originally by: Roxanna Kell The final 5 know the way, whats that about, The Cl, the chief and that b***h don't seem to know the way from the looks of it. let alone sanders who is always confused. And since Cara needs to know who the final 5 are, why doesn't sanders just say, she wont kill him if she needs him. When she came back she said out right to him that if he was a cylon shed kill him. The final 5 just seem to be aware that they are cylons and nothing else, they dont seem to possess any concous (sp) control over their abilities, IE Anders flashed that signal to the raider unconcously and even afterwords he wasnt sure what it was. she didn't need him back than. I gotta say the whole things about SB drawing the future or whatever is a bit annoying, mysticism has overtaken this sci fi a bit. Come on, its starbuck. Look how Cally reacted when she found out her husband and son were cylons and she was fairly mild mannored, imagine how Starbuck would react. And technically she still doesnt need him, there are four others. -------------------------------- To borrow a phrase: Players who post are like stars, there are bright ones and those who are dim.
Roxanna Kell Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2008.05.14 09:03:00 - [111] Originally by: Jacob Mei Originally by: Roxanna Kell Originally by: Jacob Mei Originally by: Roxanna Kell The final 5 know the way, whats that about, The Cl, the chief and that b*h don't seem to know the way from the looks of it. let alone sanders who is always confused. And since Cara needs to know who the final 5 are, why doesn't sanders just say, she wont kill him if she needs him. When she came back she said out right to him that if he was a cylon shed kill him. The final 5 just seem to be aware that they are cylons and nothing else, they dont seem to possess any concous (sp) control over their abilities, IE Anders flashed that signal to the raider unconcously and even afterwords he wasnt sure what it was. she didn't need him back than. I gotta say the whole things about SB drawing the future or whatever is a bit annoying, mysticism has overtaken this sci fi a bit. Come on, its starbuck. Look how Cally reacted when she found out her husband and son were cylons and she was fairly mild mannored, imagine how Starbuck would react. And technically she still doesnt need him, there are four others. yeah, but the writers man, they can make her nice or soemthing. Quote:** There is no Dishonor in winning fools, so do it any way you can.
Minmatar baby Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.05.19 12:22:00 - [112] Edited by: Minmatar baby on 19/05/2008 12:27:15 I hope Athena is getting punnished for killing Natalee. Come on, she had no reason or right to shoot her, after all, its was a Ally, and if she get¦s away with this, its just a bit lame.. she wasent even the one in her dream.. (it was six) also: I've been thinking a lot about the oft echoed prophecy of the hybrid that, Starbuck: "Is the harbinger of death, [and] will lead them all to their end" Especially in the context of this episode, where Natalie speaks to the quorum about the fact that mortality can, in effect, make the cylons "whole" - perhaps Starbuck will be the one to destroy the resurrection hub, and in doing so, make the Cylons "whole". In this manner, she would lead them to a meaningful existence, and lead them to their "end" - yet in a very positive way. Thoughts??
Kusha'an Gallente RuffRyders Axiom Empire	Posted - 2008.05.19 13:33:00 - [113] Starbuck needs anger management. ---- What part of "shorn't" do you not understand?

CCP Eris Discordia	Posted - 2008.05.19 14:02:00 - [114] Originally by: Kusha'an Starbuck needs anger management. Starbucks is hot and perfect the way she is swoons I also think that she is the harbinger of death for the cylons, i mean the hybrid smiled when she was telling her all that and for the cylons it would be for the better. And starbucks is sexy unless she is playing with crayons Pink Dread has been hijacked

Minmatar baby Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.05.19 17:35:00 - [115] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YatjlSJNRHM number 6 and 7 wins:)
Jacob Mei	Posted - 2008.05.19 20:09:00 - [116] Originally by: Minmatar baby Edited by: Minmatar baby on 19/05/2008 12:27:15 I hope Athena is getting punnished for killing Natalee. Come on, she had no reason or right to shoot her, after all, its was a Ally, and if she get¦s away with this, its just a bit lame.. she wasent even the one in her dream.. (it was six) also: I've been thinking a lot about the oft echoed prophecy of the hybrid that, Starbuck: "Is the harbinger of death, [and] will lead them all to their end" Especially in the context of this episode, where Natalie speaks to the quorum about the fact that mortality can, in effect, make the cylons "whole" - perhaps Starbuck will be the one to destroy the resurrection hub, and in doing so, make the Cylons "whole". In this manner, she would lead them to a meaningful existence, and lead them to their "end" - yet in a very positive way. Thoughts?? Didnt the preview for this week show Natalee in an intensive care unit? I could have sworn there was a second or two showing her in what looked to be a surgery area. Athena getting punished is going to be a grey area. At this point in time the cylons havent proven their worth yet, if anything Athena may get a slap on the wrist like Cally got for shooting boomer. Furthermore, I doubt these cylons would demand her blood, they consider her blessed for giving birth to Heria. As for her shooting Natalee even though she wasnt the one from her vision, keep in mind that vision kept flashing in and out, her daughter litterally said bye to her and she has a book full of drawings of number 6, in short shes a mother on a mission to defend her child and will kill anyone who stands in her way, which was Natalee. -------------------------------- To borrow a phrase: Players who post are like stars, there are bright ones and those who are dim.
HankMurphy Minmatar Pelennor Enterprises	Posted - 2008.05.19 20:54:00 - [117] Originally by: Minmatar baby In this manner, she would lead them to a meaningful existence, and lead them to their "end" - yet in a very positive way. Thoughts?? this Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia Originally by: Kusha'an Starbuck needs anger management. Starbucks is hot and perfect the way she is swoons I also think that she is the harbinger of death for the cylons, i mean the hybrid smiled when she was telling her all that and for the cylons it would be for the better. And starbucks is sexy unless she is playing with crayons and this the harbinger of death thing had me for some time till this whole 'no more resurrection' thing entered the picture. and she is hot w/ crayons too. while i wouldn't mind letting her melt some crayo... erm ahem. back to the topic! no way natalie6 is going to die, not gonna happen, calling it now. i think the thing w/ athena and her kid is going to play out as a self fulfilling vision between her and the president. gaeta is really looking like cylon material god i love this show ------------------------------ of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most
Minmatar baby Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.05.20 13:40:00 - [118] could fit with the whole "what has happened will happen again"... Boomer shoots the admiral in season 1 Athena shoots natalie in season 4
Jacob Mei	Posted - 2008.05.20 16:00:00 - [119] Originally by: HankMurphy Originally by: Minmatar baby gaeta is really looking like cylon material god i love this show Orginally I thought Gaeta was a cool character but after the Trial he just turned into a sniviling little coward and liar in my opinion. Honestly I dont think he would be the 5th, if anything Billy had a better chance of being the 5th (boy that would be an interesting turn around, namely for Dee). -------------------------------- To borrow a phrase: Players who post are like stars, there are bright ones and those who are dim.
Captain Hudson Caldari Royal Hiigaran Navy	Posted - 2008.05.20 21:03:00 - [120] 5th cylon is the lawer from baltars trail. calling it now The Real Eve FanFest
F'nog Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce	Posted - 2008.05.20 23:22:00 - [121] Originally by: Captain Hudson 5th cylon is the lawer from baltars trail. calling it now I find myself very close to agreement. He's in the next episode, according to the preview. It would be pretty cool if he is, as that would mean he'd be on more. And his voice is awesome. Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said
Kehmor Caldari PAK	Posted - 2008.05.21 01:03:00 - [122] Originally by: F'nog Originally by: Captain Hudson 5th cylon is the lawer from baltars trail. calling it now I find myself very close to agreement. He's in the next episode, according to the preview. It would be pretty cool if he is, as that would mean he'd be on more. And his voice is awesome. Nah, can't be. They need it to be someone big enough that even the casual viewer will go "OMG! NO WAI!". They arn't gonna make it some guy who a non-addict could well have missed had they been away for an episode or two. It'll be someone who was in it from the start. - Violence isn't the answer, it is the question. The answer is yes.
F'nog Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce	Posted - 2008.05.21 01:21:00 - [123] Originally by: Kehmor Originally by: F'nog Originally by: Captain Hudson 5th cylon is the lawer from baltars trail. calling it now I find myself very close to agreement. He's in the next episode, according to the preview. It would be pretty cool if he is, as that would mean he'd be on more. And his voice is awesome. Nah, can't be. They need it to be someone big enough that even the casual viewer will go "OMG! NO WAI!". They arn't gonna make it some guy who a non-addict could well have missed had they been away for an episode or two. It'll be someone who was in it from the start. I don't agree at all, and I stand by my previous guess of Zach Adama. He was never in it, but has quite a presence. So does the lawyer. The only thing they can't do, if they have any clue, is make it someone completely new so that there's a scene of, "OMG, you're the fifth Cylon!!!! Who the hell are you anyway?" Zach can at least provide Apollo or Adama with an anagnorisis on the scale of Euripides, or even one of the talented Athenian playwrites. Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said
Wild Rho GoonFleet	Posted - 2008.05.21 12:53:00 - [124] Originally by: HankMurphy Originally by: Minmatar baby gaeta is really looking like cylon material god i love this show Orginally I thought Gaeta was a cool character but after the Trial he just turned into a sniviling little coward and liar in my opinion. Honestly I dont think he would be the 5th, if anything Billy had a better chance of being the 5th (boy that would be an interesting turn around, namely for Dee). Billy probably would have been one of the final five. I remember reading the only real reason the character was killed off was because the actor at the time wasn't prepared to commit to a long term contract. Tory who is now one of the final five was basically a replacement character for Billy assuming his role.
Yakoff Alcatraz Inc. Tactical Narcotics Team	Posted - 2008.05.21 21:42:00 - [125] I've always wondered why no one has ever suspected Dr Cottle (sp?) as the final five. Every one is suspecting one of the 3 Adama(s), Roslyn, most of the main cast, etc, etc. Here we have the Dr who is an observer. He does not show much hatred to anyone including the cylons. Remember when he was performing surgery on the injured Cavel on New Caprica? When Diana (the 3) asked him whose blood it was and he said it does not matter whose. Life is life to him - he treats both species as precious. I suspect him the most.
Tiberius Maddox	Posted - 2008.05.22 00:51:00 - [126] Season 1 and 2 were great, but the series has gone downhill since then. The writers keep creating new plot elements and then dropping them without explanation.
Adrienne Sorbonne Silent Sisters of the Bloody Rose	Posted - 2008.05.22 01:10:00 - [127] Last 2 episodes lifted my faith a lil, I hope they keep it up.
HankMurphy Pelennor Enterprises	Posted - 2008.05.22 01:33:00 - [128] Originally by: Tiberius Maddox Season 1 and 2 were great, but the series has gone downhill since then. The writers keep creating new plot elements and then dropping them without explanation. jokes on you! Boxy is the 5th cylon (did that kid even make it past the mini-series?)
Jacob Mei	Posted - 2008.05.22 04:38:00 - [129] Ive noticed a rather interesting trend: Caperica 6 Sharon Tyrol Tigh Anders Leoben What do these 6 characters have in common? 1. They are Cylons 2. They are involved with a human in a romantic relationship, either recipicated by the human or one sided. 3. Of the 12 cylon models, these are the most human like in personality. Caprica saved baltar in the mini serise and repeatedly kept the other cylons at bay for him on New Caprica. Sharon went against her cylon mission and went with Helo even after becoming pregenant and so on. Caprica 6 to Baltar Sharon to Helo Tyrol to Cally Tigh to Ellen Anders to Starbuck Leoben to Starbuck Now when you look at the other cylons: Doral Simon Cavil D'anna Tory You will note three things as well. 1. All five have little to no compassion for human life. IE Cavil proposed the nuking of new Caprica, Tory vented Cally after securing Nicky, Simon was into that mass baby boomer facility, and so on. 2. All five models do not have romantic interests in humans, but are not above having sex with a human to get what they need. 3. All five have a cold, calculated personality. Now, this is where it gets interesting. Of the 11 out of 12 known cylons, 6 models have a relationship or connection to humanity in some way and the other 5 do not. If this is to be believed, and assuming the writers are going for a measure of balance between the cylons then it means that the final cylon will likely be cold, calculated, and likely uncaring of humanity. I know of only 1 person on the cast that was recently introduced that fits the bill, Lampkin. 1. He doesnt care if his clients win or lose 2. Hes manipulative 3. Hes a lawyer Thoughts? Should I go to the cookoos nest for this one?
F'nog Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce	Posted - 2008.05.22 05:22:00 - [130] Very good points, Jacob. But you have one problem: Sharon, i.e. Boomer, isn't a "good" Cylon. She sided with Cavil. You should change it to Athena, to differentiate between the two. Athena is more like the other models than Boomer is, since only Boomer voted with the "bad" Cylons. I'm leaning more towards the lawyer, but still hold out that Zach or Billy could be 12.
Jacob Mei	Posted - 2008.05.22 05:44:00 - [131] Originally by: F'nog Very good points, Jacob. But you have one problem: Sharon, i.e. Boomer, isn't a "good" Cylon. She sided with Cavil. You should change it to Athena, to differentiate between the two. Athena is more like the other models than Boomer is, since only Boomer voted with the "bad" Cylons. I'm leaning more towards the lawyer, but still hold out that Zach or Billy could be 12. I should diffreniate, though in defense even Helo refers to Athena as Sharon. I wonder though if this is just a shared name between Athena and Boomer or if the entire model 8 serise is named Sharon.
F'nog Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce	Posted - 2008.05.22 06:44:00 - [132] Originally by: Jacob Mei Originally by: F'nog Very good points, Jacob. But you have one problem: Sharon, i.e. Boomer, isn't a "good" Cylon. She sided with Cavil. You should change it to Athena, to differentiate between the two. Athena is more like the other models than Boomer is, since only Boomer voted with the "bad" Cylons. I'm leaning more towards the lawyer, but still hold out that Zach or Billy could be 12. I should diffreniate, though in defense even Helo refers to Athena as Sharon. I wonder though if this is just a shared name between Athena and Boomer or if the entire model 8 serise is named Sharon. I think it comes down to the fact that Athena was originally impersonating Boomer in order to gain Helo's trust. So they're both Sharon's, but Athena has gone out of her way to differentiate herself as the Athena-Sharon, rather than the Boomer-Sharon. But, yes, the entire line is called Sharon in an unofficial sort of way. The humans have named each version after the first one they encountered who had a name. So there's Cavil, Lehoben, Simon, D'anna, Caprica, Sharon, and the news guy. The Cylons have taken up this mechanism to make it easier to differentiate the models to humans. But only the individual units of each version have a name: there's a Cavil 1, a Caprica 6, a Sharon/Boomer 8, an Athena 8, etc. They seem to use their number when referring to each other in general, unless they're addressing the actual entity in question. Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said
Wendat Huron Stellar Solutions	Posted - 2008.05.28 22:46:00 - [133] What did I miss, the survivors went from 50000+ to 39000+!? These forums are FUBAR, upgrade this decade!
Jacob Mei	Posted - 2008.05.28 23:37:00 - [134] Originally by: Wendat Huron What did I miss, the survivors went from 50000+ to 39000+!? I think the biggest loss of life was when they were escaping new caperica, though they tend to lose some people every few episodes so thats not helpful. -------------------------------- To borrow a phrase: Players who post are like stars, there are bright ones and those who are dim.
Mattikus Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.29 01:47:00 - [135] Whose everyones favorite characters? Im tossed between Adama (older), Starbuck and Baltar
HankMurphy Pelennor Enterprises	Posted - 2008.05.29 01:50:00 - [136] Originally by: Mattikus Whose everyones favorite characters? Im tossed between Adama (older), Starbuck and Baltar Chief ------------------------------ of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most
Wloire Macabre Votum Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2008.05.29 02:38:00 - [137] The twelth cylon is going to be Maddog. He has omgwtfNOWAI factor as well as he could be the specific final Cylon Xena was refering to in the temple. The thirteenth cylon (one for each tribe) is going to be Billy and he will be the king of the Cylons (this I threw in jokingly ofcourse but I wouldent rule out a 13th Cylon). I also believe Tom Zarek could be a Cylon, he has the whole No Wai(!) factor rolling for himself and I personally think a show willing to metagame (Leoben: "Adama is a Cylon" Zarek played Adama in the original series) is awesome. **SPOILER ALERT*** The earth they find will be a post apocalyptic late 21st-22nd century earth covered in ruins. The final five are considered "Cylons" because they (just like the rest of the earthlings) believe in "the one true god" that the Cylon's believe in (although that doesent explain Anders glowy eye). The final five were sent from earth to warn both the Cylons and the Earthlings of the futility of warfare and peace and happiness rules amongst them all forever more. You heard it here first folks.
goodby4u Logistic Technologies Incorporated	Posted - 2008.05.29 02:56:00 - [138] Originally by: Mattikus Whose everyones favorite characters? Im tossed between Adama (older), Starbuck and Baltar Well, I dont like any of them near as much as one and the collective mind of the cylons... What? I like routing for the bad guy!
Captain Hudson Royal Hiigaran Navy	Posted - 2008.05.29 04:44:00 - [139] Originally by: Wloire The twelth cylon is going to be Maddog. He has omgwtfNOWAI factor as well as he could be the specific final Cylon Xena was refering to in the temple. The thirteenth cylon (one for each tribe) is going to be Billy and he will be the king of the Cylons (this I threw in jokingly ofcourse but I wouldent rule out a 13th Cylon). I also believe Tom Zarek could be a Cylon, he has the whole No Wai(!) factor rolling for himself and I personally think a show willing to metagame (Leoben: "Adama is a Cylon" Zarek played Adama in the original series) is awesome. **SPOILER ALERT*** The earth they find will be a post apocalyptic late 21st-22nd century earth covered in ruins. The final five are considered "Cylons" because they (just like the rest of the earthlings) believe in "the one true god" that the Cylon's believe in (although that doesent explain Anders glowy eye). The final five were sent from earth to warn both the Cylons and the Earthlings of the futility of warfare and peace and happiness rules amongst them all forever more. You heard it here first folks. thats a loada rubbish. And im still calling it that the lawyer is the final cylon. I called it 1st! The Real Eve FanFest
Mattikus Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.29 04:53:00 - [140] I havent read the whole thread so I dont know what people have said about this but...does anyone think Baltar might be the final Cylon? Thats what I've been guessing...
F'nog Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce	Posted - 2008.05.29 06:26:00 - [141] Originally by: Mattikus I havent read the whole thread so I dont know what people have said about this but...does anyone think Baltar might be the final Cylon? Thats what I've been guessing... You should have read the thread. The creator/principle writer has said that Baltar is NOT a Cylon. Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said
HankMurphy Pelennor Enterprises	Posted - 2008.05.31 03:00:00 - [142] A++++++ would buy again. That episode kicked some serious ass. The commercials weren't too bad either ------------------------------ of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most
goodby4u Logistic Technologies Incorporated	Posted - 2008.05.31 03:43:00 - [143] Originally by: HankMurphy A++++++ would buy again. That episode kicked some serious ass. The commercials weren't too bad either Was an awesome episode, but was that an eve commercial on during BSG? I think we'll soon have a major influx of noobs.
HankMurphy Pelennor Enterprises	Posted - 2008.05.31 04:13:00 - [144] when bill says "blahblablah... and you've learned a lot about yourself" the look on sol's face about made me spit my beer out laughing ------------------------------ of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most
Jacob Mei	Posted - 2008.05.31 05:59:00 - [145] Originally by: HankMurphy when bill says "blahblablah... and you've learned a lot about yourself" the look on sol's face about made me spit my beer out laughing That had to be the absolutely perfect reaction Sual could have made to that observation. Im still of the opinion that our lawyer friend is one of the final five, if not a bit crazy for imagining his dead cat (seriously, wtf? why a dead cat?!) -------------------------------- To borrow a phrase: Players who post are like stars, there are bright ones and those who are dim.
ReaperOfSly Lyrus Associates	Posted - 2008.05.31 11:01:00 - [146] Lovely. A cylon is now in charge of the only ship in the fleet which has guns. I half expected Saul to confess everything to Adama when he was handed command.
Jacob Mei	Posted - 2008.05.31 21:28:00 - [147] Im surprised no one has brought this up yet: spoiler alert Tigh got 6 pregnate. It was prevously stated cylons couldnt procreate with other cylons. Does this mean that Tigh isnt really a cylon afterall or are the final five a "diffrent type" of cylon? Is the unborn the final cylon to be revealed? If not does this mean the unborn is a "thirteenth model"? Also, I wonder if Roselin will not be returning from the cylon base ship. Given that she has cancer and has been portrayed that she wont live to see earth, and with Lee the acting president, I wonder how that will all work out. -------------------------------- To borrow a phrase: Players who post are like stars, there are bright ones and those who are dim.
Sick Sam Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.05.31 23:05:00 - [148] Starbuck is the leader of the Cyclons why can nobody see this!!!!!
ReaperOfSly Lyrus Associates	Posted - 2008.05.31 23:52:00 - [149] Originally by: Jacob Mei Im surprised no one has brought this up yet: spoiler alert Tigh got 6 pregnate. It was prevously stated cylons couldnt procreate with other cylons. Does this mean that Tigh isnt really a cylon afterall or are the final five a "diffrent type" of cylon? Is the unborn the final cylon to be revealed? If not does this mean the unborn is a "thirteenth model"? Also, I wonder if Roselin will not be returning from the cylon base ship. Given that she has cancer and has been portrayed that she wont live to see earth, and with Lee the acting president, I wonder how that will all work out. Given that there are already 2 cylon babies running around, the whole cylon baby thing is not as special as it once was. Quite frankly, not many people give a toss
Frezik Basically Outdated Stereo Equiptment	Posted - 2008.06.01 00:46:00 - [150] Originally by: Jacob Mei Im surprised no one has brought this up yet: spoiler alert Tigh got 6 pregnate. It was prevously stated cylons couldnt procreate with other cylons. Does this mean that Tigh isnt really a cylon afterall or are the final five a "diffrent type" of cylon? Is the unborn the final cylon to be revealed? If not does this mean the unborn is a "thirteenth model"? It was stated that the cylons couldn't figure out why they couldn't get pregnant, so they tried an experiment to see if the missing attribute was love (the whole Helo/Sharon thing back on Caprica in season 1). Though it seems to have worked, it seems an odd hypothesis to start with; humans create pregnancies all the time in situations where there is clearly no love felt (e.g. rape). Nor does it seem likely that Saul is really in love with Caprica. I suspect there's something else at work that was preventing cylon pregnancies. IIRC, there's also a cut scene where D'anna refers to Hera as "Thirteen".
Makula Trantor	Posted - 2008.06.01 01:59:00 - [151] Did ANYONE notice the Empyrean Age teaser that was used as an EVE Online commercial during the second to the last commercial break on BSG last night???? http://www.eveonline.com/empyreanage/index.html (Teaser 1) I was laying in bed sick with a fever watching BSG and I saw this EVE online commercial on TV (SciFi HD) and it gave me goose bumps. I had to pinch myself to make sure I was awake or not delerious. At first it didn't even compute, I thought it was a new game, like a BSG game, then I was like HOLY **** that's an EVE commercial on TV (US)!! FFS it's about time CCP!
Jacob Mei	Posted - 2008.06.01 03:19:00 - [152] Originally by: ReaperOfSly Given that there are already 2 cylon babies running around, the whole cylon baby thing is not as special as it once was. Quite frankly, not many people give a toss They are Human Cylon hybrids though, a point made quite clearly by Baltar when it used Heras stem cells to temporarly cure Roslins cancer. What Saul and Caperica have going though is a 100% cylon offsping on their hands if it is indeed Saul's (my dad made the interesting point that it could be possible more then one person was visiting Caperica). -------------------------------- To borrow a phrase: Players who post are like stars, there are bright ones and those who are dim.
Wild Rho GoonFleet	Posted - 2008.06.01 11:57:00 - [153] Originally by: Jacob Mei They are Human Cylon hybrids though, a point made quite clearly by Baltar when it used Heras stem cells to temporarly cure Roslins cancer. What Saul and Caperica have going though is a 100% cylon offsping on their hands if it is indeed Saul's (my dad made the interesting point that it could be possible more then one person was visiting Caperica). It could actually be Baltars as he was sleeping with her back on the base star before being captured although I'm really not sure exactly how much time has passed since then.
Jacob Mei	Posted - 2008.06.01 14:10:00 - [154] Originally by: Wild Rho Originally by: Jacob Mei They are Human Cylon hybrids though, a point made quite clearly by Baltar when it used Heras stem cells to temporarly cure Roslins cancer. What Saul and Caperica have going though is a 100% cylon offsping on their hands if it is indeed Saul's (my dad made the interesting point that it could be possible more then one person was visiting Caperica). It could actually be Baltars as he was sleeping with her back on the base star before being captured although I'm really not sure exactly how much time has passed since then. True, though I would say atleast 3-4 months in the BSG universe have passed from the end of Baltars threesomes with Caperica and Diana to now so wouldnt there be atleast some physical indications in Caperica of her pregnancy around now atleast? Damn, I wonder if the child in Athena, Roslins, and Caperica's dream is even Hera now. They never show the childs face right? -------------------------------- To borrow a phrase: Players who post are like stars, there are bright ones and those who are dim.
Ryushe M. Corp Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2008.06.05 03:12:00 - [155] Found this while browsing the Youtubes. I present you with .... the 1 minute per season funny BSG recap video! "Bad Boomer!" Also entertaining, a movie in 9/11 conspiracy style dealing with the fact that the Cylons never actually nuked New Caprica, but that something else was used instead. Yes, you heard it right, the nukes are a lie! (No, both of these are not rickrolls, I swear) More on topic, I just got up to speed on the latest episodes, and watching them all reaffirmed my belief that this is probably one of the best sci-fi series out there. Seriously, the wild plot and excellent character development are stunning imho. That last episode was pretty damned good. Bets on who the final Cylon is: Either Romo Lampkin, Tom Zarek or Gaeta, with Gaeta being the least favorite of the choices... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Character Showroom Forum Thread
ceyriot Induseng Enterprises R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.06.05 04:51:00 - [156] Frack, battlestar Galatica still exists? [/sarcasm] Faction Store - Killboard
kessah The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.06.05 08:33:00 - [157] The name 'diamond' comes from the ancient Greek word adamas, meaning 'invincible'. TEHRE R TEH INVICIIPALS!11
Glassback Body Count Inc. Daisho Syndicate	Posted - 2008.06.05 12:52:00 - [158] My money is on the smoking doctor as the final Cylon. G. LinkedIn
Tarminic Black Flame Industries	Posted - 2008.06.05 14:21:00 - [159] Originally by: Jacob Mei They are Human Cylon hybrids though, a point made quite clearly by Baltar when it used Heras stem cells to temporarly cure Roslins cancer. What Saul and Caperica have going though is a 100% cylon offsping on their hands if it is indeed Saul's (my dad made the interesting point that it could be possible more then one person was visiting Caprica). She also has guards and security cameras on her 24/7 except when Saul is visiting. There's no way that anyone else could have been responsible, I don't think. Plus, this alone suggests that the final five are fundamentally different from the other 7 human cylon models, as they can't have children. ---------------- Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.81 (Updated 4/8)
Elliot Reid Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades	Posted - 2008.06.05 14:38:00 - [160] I don't know mhow accurate this is, or even if it's well known and I am behind the times, but according to the IMDB there is at least one more episode in June, thats 10 episodes from this last season, then at least 9 or the last 10 are due for broadcast in 2009 _______________________________________
thelung187 Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.06.05 14:53:00 - [161] Originally by: Ryushe Found this while browsing the Youtubes. I present you with .... the 1 minute per season funny BSG recap video! "Bad Boomer!" Also entertaining, a movie in 9/11 conspiracy style dealing with the fact that the Cylons never actually nuked New Caprica, but that something else was used instead. Yes, you heard it right, the nukes are a lie! (No, both of these are not rickrolls, I swear) More on topic, I just got up to speed on the latest episodes, and watching them all reaffirmed my belief that this is probably one of the best sci-fi series out there. Seriously, the wild plot and excellent character development are stunning imho. That last episode was pretty damned good. Bets on who the final Cylon is: Either Romo Lampkin, Tom Zarek or Gaeta, with Gaeta being the least favorite of the choices... I've been betting on Tom Zarek since the season started because: - hypotheticaly thinking: he already knows he's the 5th, thus resulting in his previous crimes of terrorism (as well as would also give credence to his constant political character manipulations) - he's not in the "last supper" BSG image that was released, where the directors said that everyone in the picture who is not a cylon is not the 5th - it's a nod to the old series - This is going to sound dumb and is not really worthy of a bullet point, but being bored at work and reading here and there, I just realized, if you count the letters in his name, "tom zarek" has the same number as "the fifth." /yes I'm into the show that much //yes I've read message boards about the show ///yes I'm that friggin bored at work [ 2005.05.19 22:54:23 ] InnerDrive > only solution safespot till you leave or mine in empire till you leave or s
Kusha'an RuffRyders Axiom Empire	Posted - 2008.06.05 15:39:00 - [162] Originally by: thelung187 Originally by: Ryushe Found this while browsing the Youtubes. I present you with .... the 1 minute per season funny BSG recap video! "Bad Boomer!" Also entertaining, a movie in 9/11 conspiracy style dealing with the fact that the Cylons never actually nuked New Caprica, but that something else was used instead. Yes, you heard it right, the nukes are a lie! (No, both of these are not rickrolls, I swear) More on topic, I just got up to speed on the latest episodes, and watching them all reaffirmed my belief that this is probably one of the best sci-fi series out there. Seriously, the wild plot and excellent character development are stunning imho. That last episode was pretty damned good. Bets on who the final Cylon is: Either Romo Lampkin, Tom Zarek or Gaeta, with Gaeta being the least favorite of the choices... I've been betting on Tom Zarek since the season started because: - hypotheticaly thinking: he already knows he's the 5th, thus resulting in his previous crimes of terrorism (as well as would also give credence to his constant political character manipulations) - he's not in the "last supper" BSG image that was released, where the directors said that everyone in the picture who is not a cylon is not the 5th - it's a nod to the old series - This is going to sound dumb and is not really worthy of a bullet point, but being bored at work and reading here and there, I just realized, if you count the letters in his name, "tom zarek" has the same number as "the fifth." /yes I'm into the show that much //yes I've read message boards about the show ///yes I'm that friggin bored at work Also, the letters in his name spell Moar Tekz!!!ONE1!11!ELEVENTY1!!1!1 ---- What part of "shorn't" do you not understand?
Trauts Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2008.06.07 01:27:00 - [163] Does anyone know of a good place to watch episodes online without having to wait for Sci-Fi to put them up? They dont seem to be in a hurry to make them available the last few weeks and Id like to watch tonights episode sometime before next month.
Ryushe M. Corp Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2008.06.07 03:01:00 - [164] Edited by: Ryushe on 07/06/2008 03:02:42 Originally by: Trauts Does anyone know of a good place to watch episodes online without having to wait for Sci-Fi to put them up? They dont seem to be in a hurry to make them available the last few weeks and Id like to watch tonights episode sometime before next month. There's the obvious places where you can find information necessary to share data between many peers, if you will. I usually get the HD versions of the episodes about an hour after they're aired online, which is more than fast enough for me Edit: This episode might be one of the better ones yet I think. I'll refrain from further comments until everyone has had a chance to see it though :) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Character Showroom Forum Thread
Jacob Mei	Posted - 2008.06.07 03:12:00 - [165] Next weeks episode should be veeeeeerrrry interesting. -------------------------------- To borrow a phrase: Players who post are like stars, there are bright ones and those who are dim.
Trauts Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2008.06.07 03:13:00 - [166] A link or something would be nice I dont use any of those programs atm so anything more specific would be much apreciated.
Ryushe M. Corp Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2008.06.07 03:19:00 - [167] Originally by: Trauts A link or something would be nice I dont use any of those programs atm so anything more specific would be much apreciated. Well, I don't think CCP regards posting links to such material or software as a favorable action, so I'll refrain from posting direct links. If someone else feels the need to invoke the wrath of the forum mods, they're free to go right ahead. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Character Showroom Forum Thread
Trauts Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2008.06.07 03:34:00 - [168] Originally by: Ryushe Originally by: Trauts A link or something would be nice I dont use any of those programs atm so anything more specific would be much apreciated. Well, I don't think CCP regards posting links to such material or software as a favorable action, so I'll refrain from posting direct links. If someone else feels the need to invoke the wrath of the forum mods, they're free to go right ahead. Well then do me a favor and evemail me the info or something if u get a chance. I cant get cable at my house (too far out in the sticks) and the mountain blocks my satelite signal, and im dying to see "Hub". Again thanks in advance.
annoing MisFunk Inc. Daisho Syndicate	Posted - 2008.06.07 07:44:00 - [169] Originally by: Adrienne Sorbonne BSG needs more spaceships pew pew and less soap drama! I've never seen an episode of BSG, more-over i've never seen a single second of an episode of BSG, however, as with all sci-fi based series they all follow a set formula. Name any sci-fi series and its always the same .. stick with me here ... Initially, they are ALL cgi heavy, this is to draw you into the series. Slowly they get more 'soapy' as this is far cheaper to make than cgi heavy episodes. ALL series will get a set fiscal amount per series. The writers/ producers/ directors have to make that money last. So they have to save money by making some episodes far cheaper to save money for the more expensive episodes IE: spaceships pew pew ones. Therefore they have to get 'soapy' to a) lay a future plotline b) expand character development c) save money. Therefore far more episodes take place on a planet / caves / ship corridors etc as these are incredibly cheap in comparison. I dont know the financial details of BSG but I do know that by series 3 of Star Trek Next Generation, each episode was only given 1 million dollers per episode. A CGI heavy episode would cost in excess 2 million so they had to save that money from somewhere. Therefore ST got more 'soapy' to save money. Purely financial. This will be true for BSG as well. If you want more BSG you have to balance the fact that to get 3/4 spaceship pewy pewy ones you need to put up with 20 'soapy' ones. Otherwise they would never raise the money to continue making BSG at all. Dwi Cymraig
Jacob Mei	Posted - 2008.06.07 15:55:00 - [170] Originally by: annoing Originally by: Adrienne Sorbonne BSG needs more spaceships pew pew and less soap drama! I've never seen an episode of BSG, more-over i've never seen a single second of an episode of BSG, however, as with all sci-fi based series they all follow a set formula. Name any sci-fi series and its always the same .. stick with me here ... Initially, they are ALL cgi heavy, this is to draw you into the series. Slowly they get more 'soapy' as this is far cheaper to make than cgi heavy episodes. ALL series will get a set fiscal amount per series. The writers/ producers/ directors have to make that money last. So they have to save money by making some episodes far cheaper to save money for the more expensive episodes IE: spaceships pew pew ones. Therefore they have to get 'soapy' to a) lay a future plotline b) expand character development c) save money. Therefore far more episodes take place on a planet / caves / ship corridors etc as these are incredibly cheap in comparison. I dont know the financial details of BSG but I do know that by series 3 of Star Trek Next Generation, each episode was only given 1 million dollers per episode. A CGI heavy episode would cost in excess 2 million so they had to save that money from somewhere. Therefore ST got more 'soapy' to save money. Purely financial. This will be true for BSG as well. If you want more BSG you have to balance the fact that to get 3/4 spaceship pewy pewy ones you need to put up with 20 'soapy' ones. Otherwise they would never raise the money to continue making BSG at all. I recall reading that towards the end when SG-1 was still playing the average episode code about 2 million to produce. I think that was after they blew up the piramad (sp) (I recall someone actually saying they were over budget with that episode and worried that would cause the show to be canned). -------------------------------- To borrow a phrase: Players who post are like stars, there are bright ones and those who are dim.
Jacob Mei	Posted - 2008.06.14 03:01:00 - [171] Just this simple phrase: L O L @ Colonials That is all. -------------------------------- To borrow a phrase: Players who post are like stars, there are bright ones and those who are dim.
MalVortex Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2008.06.14 03:05:00 - [172] Season Finale. EPIC. WORDS FAIL.
Jacob Mei	Posted - 2008.06.14 03:09:00 - [173] Originally by: MalVortex Season Finale. EPIC. WORDS FAIL. It wasnt the Seaon Finale. This is the final season, SciFi likes to split the season into two smaller seasons, we got the mid season finale. Galactica will likely be back around September. -------------------------------- To borrow a phrase: Players who post are like stars, there are bright ones and those who are dim.
goodby4u Logistic Technologies Incorporated	Posted - 2008.06.14 03:13:00 - [174] Btw baltar is the cylon, dianna said the final cylon wasnt in the fleet, so that means either the pesident or baltar... And dianna already said the president isnt a cylon.
Jacob Mei	Posted - 2008.06.14 03:24:00 - [175] If baltar was the 5th 3 would have said so out right. She is/was on a holy quest to bring all her people under one roof. This means 2 possibilites. 1. The child growing in Caperica is the 12th model as he/she would be the first pure cylon offspring. However this is unlikely as 3 has seen all 5 faces. 2. The final cylon is alive on earth somewhere which means the planet isnt entirely dead. This is the more likely option and makes the most sence as the final 5 have been or were orginally from earth. This also explains the unique viper and the signal the other four were getting. However given that signals take time to travel in space the question is how long ago was the signal sent from earth. -------------------------------- To borrow a phrase: Players who post are like stars, there are bright ones and those who are dim.
MalVortex Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2008.06.14 03:48:00 - [176] Originally by: Jacob Mei Originally by: MalVortex Season Finale. EPIC. WORDS FAIL. It wasnt the Seaon Finale. This is the final season, SciFi likes to split the season into two smaller seasons, we got the mid season finale. Galactica will likely be back around September. I'm Aware. This is the end of season 4.5. September is optimistic, unless you mean September 2009...
Kusha'an RuffRyders Axiom Empire	Posted - 2008.06.14 03:51:00 - [177] Originally by: Wloire **SPOILER ALERT* The earth they find will be a post apocalyptic late 21st-22nd century earth covered in ruins. The final five are considered "Cylons" because they (just like the rest of the earthlings) believe in "the one true god" that the Cylon's believe in (although that doesent explain Anders glowy eye). The final five were sent from earth to warn both the Cylons and the Earthlings of the futility of warfare and peace and happiness rules amongst them all forever more. You heard it here first folks. Good Call. ---- What part of "shorn't" do you not understand?**
Wloire Macabre Votum Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2008.06.18 03:22:00 - [178] Originally by: Wloire ... **SPOILER ALERT* The earth they find will be a post apocalyptic late 21st-22nd century earth covered in ruins.** The final five are considered "Cylons" because they (just like the rest of the earthlings) believe in "the one true god" that the Cylon's believe in (although that doesent explain Anders glowy eye). The final five were sent from earth to warn both the Cylons and the Earthlings of the futility of warfare and peace and happiness rules amongst them all forever more. You heard it here first folks. SEE?!?
Ryushe JuBa Corp Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2008.06.18 04:03:00 - [179] Originally by: Jacob Mei It wasnt the Seaon Finale. This is the final season, SciFi likes to split the season into two smaller seasons, we got the mid season finale. Galactica will likely be back around September. Sorry to disappoint you there, but the next episode will be in January '09. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Character Showroom Forum Thread
Jacob Mei	Posted - 2008.06.18 06:41:00 - [180] Originally by: Ryushe Originally by: Jacob Mei It wasnt the Seaon Finale. This is the final season, SciFi likes to split the season into two smaller seasons, we got the mid season finale. Galactica will likely be back around September. Sorry to disappoint you there, but the next episode will be in January '09. Honestly... im not surprised if thats the case. -------------------------------- To borrow a phrase: Players who post are like stars, there are bright ones and those who are dim.
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2008.06.22 18:52:00 - [181] Edited by: Danton Marcellus on 22/06/2008 18:54:44 Whoever the final cylon is they had all been to Earth before. Something tells me those cylons were sent to the colonies from Earth by the cylons there to recreate what brought Earth down in order to step in and intervene, once the cleansing fire had done its work and the warring factions had grown enough and proven themselves worthy of saving, to live side by side. This as the cylons discovered they needed mankind for new blood as mutations in the flesh as well as thought is a strictly human trait. Why else would they have been to Earth and who else but the cylons built the new viper that came back? Cylons survived the nuclear war on Earth, the humans didn't. Starbuck may well be the harbinger of death, death in the way that old ways die and there's a shift in paradigm. My money's on old man Galactica himself as the final Cylon. I'm sure there will be hidden memories coming back to him, when he did things that played into the hands of the puppetmasters, once exposed to his true self. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Kalahari Wayrest Re-Awakened Technologies Inc	Posted - 2008.06.22 20:19:00 - [182] Quote: Sorry to disappoint you there, but the next episode will be in January '09. __________________________ Indulge Me Consider Yourself Indulged - Immy ♥ Wow immy scored - Xorus
Gone'Postal Scoopex The Volition Cult	Posted - 2008.06.22 22:16:00 - [183] Originally by: Ryushe Originally by: Jacob Mei It wasnt the Seaon Finale. This is the final season, SciFi likes to split the season into two smaller seasons, we got the mid season finale. Galactica will likely be back around September. Sorry to disappoint you there, but the next episode will be in January '09. OH YOU HAVE TO BE FRACKING KIDDING MEH!!!!!! Questions, Comments, Problems, Please address them to the CSM.. Now CCP Never have to visit the forum. -V8I-
Wiley Peterson	Posted - 2008.06.23 00:06:00 - [184] Yeah, but there should be a couple webisode storylines and another straight to DVD thing like "Razor." I think the long wait is due to them wanting to end it the same time Caprica starts.
Wloire Macabre Votum Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2008.06.24 02:44:00 - [185] Edited by: Wloire on 24/06/2008 02:47:27 Edited by: Wloire on 24/06/2008 02:47:03 Everytime I watch the final five minutes of episode ten I just cant help but smile. Of course this isent the end but everyone's distraught face as they look upon the nuclear wasteland just makes me grin. I cannot wait to see the conclusion, and I really hope none of the machines turn out to be the final cylon (Starbuck's Viper specifically.) That would kill the whole season for me. Edit: God damn. I love how happy everyone is when they jump in, five seconds before they see the ground.
EnslaverOfMinmatar Yarsk Hunters DeaDSpace Coalition	Posted - 2008.06.24 04:01:00 - [186] The Cylons should just build another main resurrection ship(whatever it was called) and kill all the humans lol
F'nog Celestial Horizon Corp. Celestial Industrial Alliance	Posted - 2008.06.26 03:53:00 - [187] Originally by: Gone'Postal Originally by: Ryushe Originally by: Jacob Mei It wasnt the Seaon Finale. This is the final season, SciFi likes to split the season into two smaller seasons, we got the mid season finale. Galactica will likely be back around September. Sorry to disappoint you there, but the next episode will be in January '09. OH YOU HAVE TO BE FRACKING KIDDING MEH!!!!!! Your name speaks to me on this matter. Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said Originally by: Chribba Go F'nog! You're a hero! Not a Zero! /me bows

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