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Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2008.05.13 17:49:00 -
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Originally by: Riddal
Originally by: ArchenTheGreat
Originally by: Shin Ra
763 kills / 23 losses
You are almost as good PVPer as Ginger Magician (or whatever this gate camper was called). Congratulations.
Ohhh thats a low call.... I would wardec TRI for that Shin Ra.
I didn't even have to lift a finger and they died.
Such is our power.
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Mickey Knox
Caldari Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.13 20:29:00 -
[392]
Be was in geminate? you sure?
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Orar Ironfist
Incarnation of Evil Nocturnal Legion
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Posted - 2008.05.13 23:56:00 -
[393]
Originally by: Shin Ra
Originally by: Riddal
Ohhh thats a low call.... I would wardec TRI for that Shin Ra.
I didn't even have to lift a finger and they died.
Such is our power.
Pirate for Life(no matter my sec)
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Kera Delacour
Evenstar Industries
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Posted - 2008.05.14 00:29:00 -
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As impressive as those stats look I have to say it's not exactly rocket science to rack up good stats gate camping in cloaking battleships fitted with damps in the mids. Anything that can remotely threaten you ya just warp off and cloak.
That said... that is a lot of kills. Smash should probably learn to communicate better so that so many easy ganks aren't attainable. ----------- EVNS, bringing quality carebearing to a solar system near you! |
Me 1st
SeTI Corporation
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Posted - 2008.05.14 05:50:00 -
[395]
Originally by: Shin Ra
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I didn't even have to lift a finger and they died.
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because you dont lift a finger they died (...of boredom)
and dont look any further you wont find any balls in your pants
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Mirirar
Solstice Systems Development Concourse
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Posted - 2008.05.14 06:03:00 -
[396]
Go Burn Eden.
I've flown against you, I've flown against SMASH/Kill, and also as a SMASH member. The noise on this forum confirms my personal memories of the alliance.
Kill all of them.
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Wideen
Contraband Inc.
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Posted - 2008.05.14 06:06:00 -
[397]
Originally by: Lady Valory OK, Burn Eden,
Impressive stats
Can you PLEASE team up with a cap-heavy or bs heavy merc corp and then start clearing off the moon mining pos's?
What you are doing is pruning the trees of weak and dead branches.
The pos networks intact generate the billions of isk BACK in mere days!
Here is what I suggest then... You bring one of these alliances to their knees by singling out all those poorly defended small towers.
You pop a plat moon here, chromium tower there, a caesium tower here and there, and then the ISK machine takes a major blow as reactors run dry.
Also at that point, they bring out the real fleets and u get more killing.
Start small, Burn Eden, with some small towers that have the usual token gun on them. Hit those towers that are 10 jumps out from a station first. GL
I believe you'd have to pay for that.
Originally by: F'nog Your math intrigues me, and I wish to subscribe to its newsletter.
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Nicole Maher
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Posted - 2008.05.14 06:51:00 -
[398]
They make threads about non-capital kills now?
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Crotador
Minmatar The Older Gamers R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.14 07:34:00 -
[399]
Go BE Go... no wait... This is my forum sig. There are many like it, but this one is mine.
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Craggerz06
Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.14 11:26:00 -
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Is this CCP's way of distracting Roadkill and Co. from other threads?
Lots of garbage being churned over and over in this thread.
Lock it so someone else can make a new one.
Shin Ra, try and earn some respect instead of provoking people with childish tactics
Everyone else stop biting
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posteroid
im right your wrong
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Posted - 2008.05.14 11:49:00 -
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Edited by: posteroid on 14/05/2008 11:49:45
Originally by: Kera Delacour As impressive as those stats look I have to say it's not exactly rocket science to rack up good stats gate camping in cloaking battleships fitted with damps in the mids. Anything that can remotely threaten you ya just warp off and cloak.
That said... that is a lot of kills. Smash should probably learn to communicate better so that so many easy ganks aren't attainable. -----------
Ooo look a paper tiger, LOL you've gotta love the ppl who post things like that really.
Yes yes everybody knows Kera Delacour would win eve cos the eve fitting tool and her calculator say so..............................
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Kera Delacour
Evenstar Industries
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Posted - 2008.05.14 12:48:00 -
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Edited by: Kera Delacour on 14/05/2008 12:49:08
Originally by: posteroid Edited by: posteroid on 14/05/2008 11:49:45
Originally by: Kera Delacour As impressive as those stats look I have to say it's not exactly rocket science to rack up good stats gate camping in cloaking battleships fitted with damps in the mids. Anything that can remotely threaten you ya just warp off and cloak.
That said... that is a lot of kills. Smash should probably learn to communicate better so that so many easy ganks aren't attainable. -----------
Ooo look a paper tiger, LOL you've gotta love the ppl who post things like that really.
Yes yes everybody knows Kera Delacour would win eve cos the eve fitting tool and her calculator say so..............................
Ummm.... I'm a carebear :) But that also doesn't mean that my point is invalid. I read and post on CAOD because I find it interesting to do so, same as you :) I think BE has great tactics, I do.... in fact I've even stated so on many occasions in game. Whenever people say ravens suck for PVP I point out BE's successes with them.
But to come to forums and crow over high kill counts and low losses when all you do is gate camp and station camp and you use ship configurations specifically designed to allow you to safely run from any real fight is kind of silly. ----------- EVNS, bringing quality carebearing to a solar system near you! |
Needa3
Minmatar Templars of Space Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.05.14 13:09:00 -
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Originally by: Kera Delacour
But to come to forums and crow over high kill counts and low losses when all you do is gate camp and station camp and you use ship configurations specifically designed to allow you to safely run from any real fight is kind of silly.
errr, IMHO i call it a smart tactic, a wellthought strategic and a very effective set up. Way better than the average blob the "pvp" forces throw at you.
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posteroid
im right your wrong
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Posted - 2008.05.14 13:27:00 -
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Edited by: posteroid on 14/05/2008 13:28:30
Originally by: Kera Delacour
But to come to forums and crow over high kill counts and low losses when all you do is gate camp and station camp and you use ship configurations specifically designed to allow you to safely run from any real fight is kind of silly.
Running from a "real fight"????.
Fights occur in eve really in only 3 places (apart from the occasional ganks in belts or probed out ships) 1. At a pos. 2. At a Station 3. At a gate. Now ganking a ship at a pos is possible but risky so most small gang fights happen at gates or stations, mostly gates. (yes there are exceptions but these are the most common).
The ship configurations not only allow BE to reposition (run away as you call it) but also to remove either high dps or other potential threats from causing them a problem thus allowing a limited number of pilots the ability to fight outnumbered without incurring losses (hopefully). The very fact that you consider sitting still and slugging away instead of repositioning your assets to reduce or stop losses altogether shows how poor your and others combat experience and teamwork within the gang really is.
A 8-10 vs 20- 40 fight may take BE 30 mins to an hour or even longer to win but we will do so without taking a loss a lot of the time. Now some ppl may call it running away or even cowardly for not sitting still (lol comments like this from those who brought 20-40 or more to fight 8 always makes me chuckle) but moving around the field and positioning assets is a basic part of combat most blobber 0.0 entities have forgotten or never learned as they rely totally on numbers.
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Captain Rickdick
BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2008.05.14 13:55:00 -
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Now iam finally resubed i would just like to say how i approve of this thread and the revenge on road kill for there Sentry drone hacks at fanfest.
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Kera Delacour
Evenstar Industries
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Posted - 2008.05.14 14:00:00 -
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Originally by: posteroid Edited by: posteroid on 14/05/2008 13:28:30
Originally by: Kera Delacour
But to come to forums and crow over high kill counts and low losses when all you do is gate camp and station camp and you use ship configurations specifically designed to allow you to safely run from any real fight is kind of silly.
Running from a "real fight"????.
Fights occur in eve really in only 3 places (apart from the occasional ganks in belts or probed out ships) 1. At a pos. 2. At a Station 3. At a gate. Now ganking a ship at a pos is possible but risky so most small gang fights happen at gates or stations, mostly gates. (yes there are exceptions but these are the most common).
The ship configurations not only allow BE to reposition (run away as you call it) but also to remove either high dps or other potential threats from causing them a problem thus allowing a limited number of pilots the ability to fight outnumbered without incurring losses (hopefully). The very fact that you consider sitting still and slugging away instead of repositioning your assets to reduce or stop losses altogether shows how poor your and others combat experience and teamwork within the gang really is.
A 8-10 vs 20- 40 fight may take BE 30 mins to an hour or even longer to win but we will do so without taking a loss a lot of the time. Now some ppl may call it running away or even cowardly for not sitting still (lol comments like this from those who brought 20-40 or more to fight 8 always makes me chuckle) but moving around the field and positioning assets is a basic part of combat most blobber 0.0 entities have forgotten or never learned as they rely totally on numbers.
:) As I said, I respect what BE does, and have cited their raven configurations in the past as examples of why Ravens do not 'suck' in PVP. I just think posting insulting posts towards organizations that are more worried about defending sovereignty than dealing with sniping cloaking gankers is silly.
BE is ganking. Nothing more, nothing less. Which is fine, but posts like the OP which attempt to make it into more than that are just silly. At the end of the day BE didn't hurt the alliance they just killed a few privately owned ships of alliance members flitting about. Now, I will absolutely state that it's a good tactic if all you want is a high kill-to-death ratio. But let's be honest: BE doesn't stay and fight in any situation where the enemy can actually fight back effectively. The minute the enemy starts getting out EWAR and sniper assets of their own BE finds other places to be... fast. (Not cowardly, it's smart, but it's hardly something to be crowing about on the forums).
----------- EVNS, bringing quality carebearing to a solar system near you! |
posteroid
im right your wrong
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Posted - 2008.05.14 14:14:00 -
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Edited by: posteroid on 14/05/2008 14:14:44
Originally by: Kera Delacour stuff
TBH you have no idea about BE although making claims of only gankers compared to ppl who hold space (only blobbers) is naive. Having a 8 - 10 man gang sitting in your space when your a 3000+ member alliance/nap and losing 500-100+ ships while only killing a few may not hurt the alliances wallet, it may not hurt the alliances space but self respect and pride are also a big factor and nobody can tell me that its not a issue.
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Crackzilla
The Shadow Order SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.14 14:44:00 -
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Originally by: posteroid ... self respect and pride are also a big factor and nobody can tell me that its not a issue.
This assumes the alliance cares. Pride? I know I wasn't the only one munching on popcorn and watching blues get popped on the bwf gate while calling out commentry in the intel channel. Watching whoever is camping bwf makes for a great show.
Simple fact is that these alliance members you speak of could care less for those that can't check intel and get popped at a known gate camp. The few that do whine are likely to have been popped and will be told that perhaps 0.0 isn't the place for them. Quite a few alliance members are rooting for whoever holds the gate because it thins the herd by shooting blues that we cannot.
If what BE does was unique then it might have strategic value. However even in the last campaign BE was one of a few groups camping gates somewhere in Geminate. You sorta have to take a number. The only thing that keeps the BE name alive is the forums.
If it weren't for these cries for attention on the forums few would remember you. That is your legacy.
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posteroid
im right your wrong
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Posted - 2008.05.14 14:50:00 -
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Edited by: posteroid on 14/05/2008 14:54:58
Originally by: *****zilla
If it weren't for these cries for attention on the forums few would remember you. That is your legacy.
While your legacy is one of getting owned by 8 man gangs and telling everybody that you did not care (are you goon alts cos you sound just like them as they tend not to care about stuff they suck at or at least thats what they say).
Oh yea and you are members of a alliance that held some space...wow like thats hard i mean you had to click the accept alliance recruitment button and everything.
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Pamangkin
Notneir Industry LLC
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Posted - 2008.05.14 15:16:00 -
[410]
do I see 15.. 15.........
Wooteh
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Thaanvanite
Minmatar ACCORD Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.14 15:28:00 -
[411]
Sure a mod must have read this thread by now, its pure flamebait just lock it.
also
Free Dastommy
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SpankMeElmo
Foundation R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.14 16:10:00 -
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Edited by: SpankMeElmo on 14/05/2008 16:12:32 Everyone knows what RK and friends are. They are a large alliance with large-alliance benefits and large-alliance problems.
Likewise, we all know what BE and friends are. They are folks who come into our space, and, free-of-charge help us to train our future FCs. (smile)
Hey, guys. GF
PS. Btw, was this a contract or were y'all just bandying about?
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Crackzilla
The Shadow Order SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.14 16:18:00 -
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Originally by: posteroid While your legacy is one of getting owned by 8 man gangs
It isn't exactly news that a small group can enage a larger group successfully when they control the situation. Many out there do this every day successfully all across Eve. BE isn't a unique and special snowflake.
I refuse to help those that won't help themselves. Some folks get ganked because they won't pay attention to intel channels. Or they think they can pvp and leroy into a known gate camp. I care how?
Originally by: posteroid
... you had to click the accept corp/alliance recruitment button and everything.
Actually I've fought in most of the conquests in Geminate. I've been involved in nearly every station that was taken for one side or the other. For the stations that we've put up I've donated time and isk when asked.
If you wish to smack talk, it helps to have some sort of basis.
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Gneeznow
Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.05.14 17:48:00 -
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this is a pretty crap thread and I aint reading it tbfh
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posteroid
im right your wrong
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Posted - 2008.05.14 17:54:00 -
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Originally by: *****zilla
Actually I've fought in most of the conquests in Geminate. I've been involved in nearly every station that was taken for one side or the other. For the stations that we've put up I've donated time and isk when asked.
If you wish to smack talk, it helps to have some sort of basis.
Ive got a news flash for ya buddy, you remember telling us that the ships we killed and the isk lost by those individual players was utterly insignificant to your alliance because of its size.
Well i have no doubt that because of its size your self acclaimed contributions to your alliance are even less earth shattering in the big picture. I mean you were that one extra pilot in the 300 man blob that did blah blah well... whoopiee give the sheep a campaign medal and tell him to stfu.
Nothing is unusual about either of our situations bud the sheep always flock together in large groups and the wolves always trim the herd, then after the wolves have feasted they howl about it a bit, and the surviving sheep bleat about how they were not eaten and how lucky...erm uber that makes them.
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Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2008.05.14 17:57:00 -
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Originally by: *****zilla
Originally by: posteroid ... self respect and pride are also a big factor and nobody can tell me that its not a issue.
This assumes the alliance cares. Pride? I know I wasn't the only one munching on popcorn and watching blues get popped on the bwf gate while calling out commentry in the intel channel. Watching whoever is camping bwf makes for a great show.
Simple fact is that these alliance members you speak of could care less for those that can't check intel and get popped at a known gate camp. The few that do whine are likely to have been popped and will be told that perhaps 0.0 isn't the place for them. Quite a few alliance members are rooting for whoever holds the gate because it thins the herd by shooting blues that we cannot.
If what BE does was unique then it might have strategic value. However even in the last campaign BE was one of a few groups camping gates somewhere in Geminate. You sorta have to take a number. The only thing that keeps the BE name alive is the forums.
If it weren't for these cries for attention on the forums few would remember you. That is your legacy.
Uh, what about warp core stabs. Surely thats a part of our awesome legacy. Though I take you point, they are probably 1% of the massive impact we have made on every single aspect of the game. In fact, nobody else has made close to as much impact in terms of their corporation.
You are just scared to admit your wrong.
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Crackzilla
The Shadow Order SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.14 18:17:00 -
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Originally by: posteroid your self acclaimed contributions to your alliance are even less earth shattering in the big picture.
I'm fine with this. I've participated for the benefit of the group and have had fun. If someone is acting solo and gets ganked I could care less about them.
Both of our organizations work the same in this manner. The difference is that it is easier to trim the fat with a small corp where everyone can be monitored.
Originally by: posteroid ...and the surviving sheep bleat about how they were not eaten and how lucky...erm uber that makes them.
Yet when we pop you all I've heard is whining that you shouldn't have died.
This is nothing but two hunters pulling down the weak from each others packs. A larger organization will obviously have more soft targets. This isn't unique. Nor is this special.
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posteroid
im right your wrong
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Posted - 2008.05.14 18:26:00 -
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Originally by: *****zilla
Originally by: posteroid your self acclaimed contributions to your alliance are even less earth shattering in the big picture.
I'm fine with this. I've participated for the benefit of the group and have had fun. If someone is acting solo and gets ganked I could care less about them.
Both of our organizations work the same in this manner. The difference is that it is easier to trim the fat with a small corp where everyone can be monitored.
Originally by: posteroid ...and the surviving sheep bleat about how they were not eaten and how lucky...erm uber that makes them.
Yet when we pop you all I've heard is whining that you shouldn't have died.
This is nothing but two hunters pulling down the weak from each others packs. A larger organization will obviously have more soft targets. This isn't unique. Nor is this special.
You do not have weak targets you are a weak target and while we may lose the occasional ship the fact is virtually all our losses come from being outnumbered, while our kills can be from solo kills or gangs that outnumber us.
Im looking forwards to the debut of our recordings on your TS cos your fc's did not sound like they did not care about the losses or the gangs they put together (and lots to us) were a lot more than just solo muppets. Il send you a copy.
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Kera Delacour
Evenstar Industries
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Posted - 2008.05.14 18:27:00 -
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Edited by: Kera Delacour on 14/05/2008 18:30:39 Edited by: Kera Delacour on 14/05/2008 18:29:25 Edited by: Kera Delacour on 14/05/2008 18:28:22
Originally by: Shin Ra In fact, nobody else has made close to as much impact in terms of their corporation.
You are just scared to admit your wrong.
Ok, I'll bite... what impact? Honestly... if it weren't for the forums I'd never have even heard of BE? And, honestly, the only times I've read anything about your exploits or 'power' is when you post...
Honest question? What major impact has Burn Eden had on the game?
I know for a fact that Smash/Roadkill have evicted at least 4 alliances from Geminate and held the region for something like a year now... that's impact... what's BE done? ----------- EVNS, bringing quality carebearing to a solar system near you! |
Ghaelsto Kakram
Mindgamers
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Posted - 2008.05.14 18:32:00 -
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Originally by: Kera Delacour Ok, I'll bite... what impact? Honestly... if it weren't for the forums I'd never have even heard of BE? And, honestly, the only times I've read anything about your exploits or 'power' is when you post...
Honest question? What major impact has Burn Eden had on the game?
Guess you missed the gazillion posts about BE'd downtime TS invitations.
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