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Hohne Antares Fleet Yards SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.08 04:53:00 - [121] Originally by: *****zilla Logistics are a problem. There are ways to solve this. A small pos in a random system without sov set and a few carrier jumps to supply it. There is one issue that is almost universal amoung corps that post like this, they would never ever place a POS or anything that can't cloak / log when confronted. Anything they risk they lose, so they take as few risks as possible. Our guys risk obviously heaps because they lose a tiny percentage of it. If they were losing something significant they'd stop risking it. On the other hand, this visit coincided with a SATAN whinge on jump bridges, so I know who hit who's nerve ;) Quite clearly you both prove that Jump Bridges are not overpowered, but whinge that they are at the same time, so quite clearly someone was annoyed. They can be worked around and you did, they can even be confronted directly which you didn't do, but many others have, but then you won't be happy until you can take down 5 titans in 3 ravens and a dictor. Which is going to result in alot of unhappy time for you ;)
Kraken Kill Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.05.08 05:02:00 - [122] Smashkill is not exclusive, Elite or demanding like other alliances. Most of those who died during this camping stuff were just guys who wanted to get to places, who didnt check intel first who just wanted to play the game. The BE that attacked played 23 hours a day near enough, camped 1 system at a time had implants in the hyenas and faction mods and polys etc. We play to have fun and not take these internetz as so much seriouz buziness. Mainly Smashkill has been otherwise engaged in dronelands, so as new people got new ships, they wanted to get in quick through bwf and later on the other chokehold nearer to dronelands, so it was intercepting lone pilots or two at a time in fleet fitted ships. A few attempts were made to attack your ships, these were mostly made by lesser experianced FCs, mostly because the more experianced ones were elsewhere- dronelands. While saying smashkill, its also much more than just smashkill. Its a wider ranging set of Blue alliances who live around these areas, many just come for the big scale pew pew we have nowadays, not for trying to bait cloakers which go 14km, falcons, sabres, hyenas, maledictions and damp ravens. To counter that gang takes specific shiptypes, and the kind of folks who can fly those ships well guess where they were. So really you just killed a lot of lesser experianced players, and a few more experianced, including me, my bad judgement but hey I tried, got a few of your ships later. But You didn't shut us down, you insted Trimmed a lot of Fat. Thus this was good. Can i lol or haha or are my nerves all touched upon? halp no way out!
Darineah Charach Minmatar Antares Fleet Yards SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.08 05:10:00 - [123] The KB stats look good, but i personally moved through BWF at will and the simple reason for that is that i'm not an idiot. I think the most surprising thing about all this is that you're disappointed about the quality of the people in BWF. I wasn't aware that was a secret tbh. I agree that you do what you do exceptionally well, however what you do isn't worth bragging about. Back in high school i seriously hated the guys who picked on the weaker and stupider people, and really that's all you guys do. You pick targets you know won't be able to fight back, and then brag about how tough you are. When the tough guys come back from their business elsewhere you either run or get pounded into the dirt. There's always going to be people in SMASHKILL/FVCKAS/SMACKFIX (whatever we're being called these days) who will fall prey to their own stupidity, but i fail to see how taking advantage of them makes you 'uber'. ------- Boxing Kangaroo
Auraurious Soliders Of Eve	Posted - 2008.05.08 05:53:00 - [124] Dear god. He said you failed too impress. That you don't care is not an excuse for that. Seriously w8 a sec you had a large cap fight?... That makes you great pvpers doesn't it. Perfection.
128th ABC123 Eve Liberation Force Sylph Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.08 06:23:00 - [125] Originally by: HellsRazor Edited by: HellsRazor on 07/05/2008 22:33:12 First, they came to GEM. because they lost to the Roadkill team during Fanfest Tourny. Second, maybe we go to your space next o wait... you have none. Third, YAY for me 5 kills and 0 losses. Forth, im sure all of EVE will remember you for this campaign. where's ETS4ME? he the only guy i remember being cool in BE. win
Angor BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.	Posted - 2008.05.08 06:30:00 - [126] Originally by: ***zilla Originally by:** Angor the ships themselves arent as important as the people flying them (unless expensive fitted) but without the ship the pod is useless. You cant maintain a extended contract in deep in hostile terratory and loose ships only to have to fly 30 odd fekin jumps to get another ship and get back into the fight. Logistics are a problem. There are ways to solve this. A small pos in a random system without sov set and a few carrier jumps to supply it. The blackops ship with recons/stealth bombers were designed expressly for the issues you describe. Most of the time was spent in bwf which is 2 system from empire and like a dozen from Jita. I'm talking about when we were near the drone area of Q-T, lots of jumps to a new ship. I think we got more kills around Q-T tbh, not sure tho. We'd never put up a pos nor would you let us base from it for our ops, instant we put up a small pos you'd blob it and put it into reinforced so its just wasting money. And although we arent picky about our targets, ganking innocent badgers jumping into 0.0 systems without scouts or escorts, we did get many good fights like this one: http://smack.griefwatch.net/?p=engagement&kill=17507 or http://smack.griefwatch.net/?p=engagement&kill=17393 As for jump bridges, they are overpowerd and make your alliance have much less risk (and us less loot) but thats fine cos the more safe you feel in your jump bridge network the more silly kills we would get from people who would just sit at the jump bridge for hours, feeling protected by the pos, not ever imagining 2-3 guys killing them there. We even nearly killed a freighter at one of your jump bridges POS's in Q-T with 2 Ravens and a Mega for dps but Che Che's Wyvern turned up to rescue it half way thru structure ;(. I think we'll have to make a soundboard with your TS recordings because claiming your FC's are busy doing other things when we have TS recordings of one of ur members leaving channel then coming back and saying "None of the experienced FC's are willing to lead a fleet against these guys... they are saying just ignore them". The recordings of the suicidal stealth bomber pilot we killed like 3 times in a row was hillerious. We even have recordings of the FIX FC that took control of your fleet in BWF for a moral boosting op to N-RAEL only to loose more ships along the way (to ATF i believe) before he had to go, a least he was enthuziastic about wanting to try kill us, at least at first :) _______________________________ [ 2007.06.07 21:07:22 ] FrankyWave > ransom me guys I am joining XElas !!!
Crotador Minmatar The Older Gamers R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.05.08 06:37:00 - [127] BE, Your not the first to do this! Your not the last to do this! and Your nowhere near the best at this! Tri were probably the best we saw at this. Maybe if our pvpers were not on other business then you would not have even got into bwf... This is my forum sig. There are many like it, but this one is mine.
Yuki Li Caldari Omerta Syndicate	Posted - 2008.05.08 06:49:00 - [128] An emo *****ing war, awesome. Even if they didn't cripple you in any way, they did kill 535 of you plus pods, so you can't really come on here talking smack. Take it like champs and get over it guys, BE have a huge ego, no need to take it personally. Anyway, they were in your space, its upto you to get rid of them, not up to them to provide you with fair fights. Website Recruiting
Colje Priory Of The Lemon R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.05.08 07:05:00 - [129] So I just went through your KB (minus 2 weeks), those numbers you reported is just pure LIES. Go ahead ppl, check it yourself. Sure you got loads of cheap kills...but 45 bil vs 1.6 bil? just lol .
The Racketeer	Posted - 2008.05.08 07:08:00 - [130] Edited by: The Racketeer on 08/05/2008 07:12:40 think bruce is improperly named. we have a nickname for them over in my parts. to better fit there actions and tactics they should be named... brutally cloaked empire! if smash was smart they would bring the fight to bruce where they would be forced to fight (ie bruce space). I wouldn't be surprised to watch them fold like frege did.

ZaKma Seraphin Technologies Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2008.05.08 07:15:00 - [131] Originally by: Shin Ra Battleship 70 / 8 Sounds like 30 minutes of a fleet fight in the south. ✖ Arachnophobia ✖
Needa3 Minmatar Templars of Space Insurgency	Posted - 2008.05.08 07:29:00 - [132] nice job BE/ TI quality over quantity as usual lotsa respect for your pvp, it continues to deliver
Evil Pookie BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.	Posted - 2008.05.08 07:30:00 - [133] Originally by: Colje So I just went through your KB (minus 2 weeks), those numbers you reported is just pure LIES. Go ahead ppl, check it yourself. Sure you got loads of cheap kills...but 45 bil vs 1.6 bil? just lol . What do you base this on? did you have your tea-leaves read? Sounds like someone is a closet psychic and readind/sniffing his own skidmarks
Angor BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.	Posted - 2008.05.08 07:39:00 - [134] Originally by: Colje So I just went through your KB (minus 2 weeks), those numbers you reported is just pure LIES. Go ahead ppl, check it yourself. Sure you got loads of cheap kills...but 45 bil vs 1.6 bil? just lol . ITS ALL LIES _______________________________ [ 2007.06.07 21:07:22 ] FrankyWave > ransom me guys I am joining XElas !!!
Crackzilla The Shadow Order SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.08 07:57:00 - [135] Originally by: Yuki Li Take it like champs and get over it guys, BE have a huge ego, no need to take it personally. Its not personal. Mostly the annoyance with having to explain this whenever someone decides to camp bwf/etc. I think we should get a form we can copy and paste and tick off the response. Originally by: Yuki Li Anyway, they were in your space, its upto you to get rid of them, not up to them to provide you with fair fights. They're not a risk to anything. They don't threaten anything. And no one is interesting in being logged on like BE is for 23/7. BE has well known tactics which mean the counter tactics are well known. In cases like this its not economical to "remove" them by devoting resource to camp the gates. The best is simply to deny BE kills. This has worked well before when BE has tried to camp gates in warzones. They can't get ganks, get bored, and move on. If carebears are going to jump like lemmings into a 23/7 gate camp then props to whoever wants to camp that gate. No one has any interest in helping those that can't pay attention to the intel channel or follow basic 0.0 procedures. The general response is: "let them die".
lecrotta lecrotta Corp	Posted - 2008.05.08 07:57:00 - [136] Originally by: ZaKma Originally by: Shin Ra Battleship 70 / 8 Sounds like 30 minutes of a fleet fight in the south. The 30 mins it took to load the grid, the 30 mins it took to activate your modules or the 30 mins it took for you to be told you had been popped?.
NickSuccorso Arcana Imperii Ltd. Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.08 07:59:00 - [137] I like being angry at people's gimmick to!
Kerdrak 3B Legio IX Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.08 08:01:00 - [138] Originally by: Shin Ra Edited by: Shin Ra on 07/05/2008 22:07:07 I was exceptionally disappointed when BRUCE failed to even remotely impress. 2 weeks in Geminate fighting Smash, Roadkill and Atlas has taken my disappointment to new heights. The pure idiocy of these three alliances leaves BRUCE looking like PVP gods. Never has there been a more prominent case of over recruitment and general FAIL. Guys, you are terrible - sort it out. BURN EDEN's reign of terror in Geminate has come to an end. At the end is well over 45 billion isk in damages, countless embarrassed FCs and a quick tempered leadership that completely failed in every respect. But I digress - our stats (inc dictor alts): 763 kills / 23 losses 45,893,222,516 ISK / 1,635,778,326 ISK Kills / Losses by class Assault Ship 15 / 0 Battlecruiser 57 / 0 Battleship 70 / 8 Capsule 228 / 3 Combat Recon Ship 8 / 0 Command Ship 7 / 0 Covert Ops 11 / 0 Cruiser 50 / 0 Destroyer 5 / 0 Electronic Attack Ship 9 / 5 Exhumer 2 / 0 Force Recon Ship 35 / 1 Frigate 21 / 0 Heavy Assault Ship 45 / 0 Heavy Interdictor 7 / 0 Industrial 50 / 0 Interceptor 72 / 1 Interdictor 14 / 8 Logistics 4 / 0 Mining Barge 1 / 0 Rookie ship 17 / 0 Shuttle 8 / 0 Stealth Bomber 15 / 0 Transport Ship 12 / 0 We had a fair few new members who boosted our losses nicely. But interestingly, a large proportion of our lost ships came as a result of non-Smashkill alliances. There are some very very bad fleet commanders out there, but Roadkill seem to have acquired more than their fair share of these. Still 11/10 for effort, 0/10 for delivery. Nice, stats but you tactics are only and exclusively: - Cloaking ships. - Outnumbering lonely preys. You don't risk a ****, so please, stop the chest beating. Make a fleet and fight in 1:1 odds, you will be surprised on how you suck at PvP. ________________________________________
lecrotta lecrotta Corp	Posted - 2008.05.08 08:12:00 - [139] Edited by: lecrotta on 08/05/2008 08:15:30 Originally by: Kerdrak Nice, stats but you tactics are only and exclusively: - Cloaking ships. - Outnumbering lonely preys. You don't risk a **, so please, stop the chest beating. Make a fleet and fight in 1:1 odds, you will be surprised on how you suck at PvP. STFU nub I flew with BE for a long time and they fight all comers unless ridiculously outnumbered although its true we never passed up any solo kills either tbh, but then who does???. http://smack.griefwatch.net/?p=engagement&kill=17507 = 8 BE vs 18.... http://smack.griefwatch.net/?p=engagement&kill=17393 = 4 BE** vs 11.....
Naridos Caldari IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2008.05.08 08:23:00 - [140] I have to give props to BE. Fought them a few times and must say that this is just funny to see Quote: You Know you play too much Eve when you get into a car crash and you run away as fast as you can so that you don't get podded.

EvilFlyingMonkey Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.05.08 08:23:00 - [141] I really don't understand how you build your conclusions. they may have annoyed all the people who died to them (thats a very small amount of our total population), but ask yourself, how often do you care about a loss for, an hour, maybe a day? - probably depends on value. I can honestly say for every time i logged on to ts over the past couple weeks i have never heard someone mention BE. BE do a good job, but what are we supposed to do, kick every member that died. Make sure that every member we have is an 'elite' pvp'er. As soon as we see someone who is not, kick them. No thankyou, RK and co are not that type of alliance, and i guess if you do not like it, you will have to come and kick us all out of the game, you will get a good k/d ratio doing it no doubt :). Once again, BE, thankyou for coming and killing a selection of the more stupid people. and further more, congrats for the more interesting fights, whether you won or not. Originally by: Wesley Baird The amount of naysayers in this thread about how your alliances didn't care about them, shows that regardless of having no long term impact, that while they were there, they annoyed the living snot out of you. -------------------------------------------- Beware of the flying Monkeys
Kerdrak 3B Legio IX Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.08 08:39:00 - [142] Originally by: lecrotta Edited by: lecrotta on 08/05/2008 08:15:30 Originally by: Kerdrak Nice, stats but you tactics are only and exclusively: - Cloaking ships. - Outnumbering lonely preys. You don't risk a **, so please, stop the chest beating. Make a fleet and fight in 1:1 odds, you will be surprised on how you suck at PvP. STFU nub I flew with BE for a long time and they fight all comers unless ridiculously outnumbered although its true we never passed up any solo kills either tbh, but then who does???. http://smack.griefwatch.net/?p=engagement&kill=17507 = 8 BE vs 18.... http://smack.griefwatch.net/?p=engagement&kill=17393 = 4 BE** vs 11..... Learn to read killboards tard. And please, feel free to call me noob with your scared main Those links only show they killed several lonely targets in a period of 3 hours, so they appear in the "same engagement". ________________________________________
lecrotta lecrotta Corp	Posted - 2008.05.08 08:59:00 - [143] Edited by: lecrotta on 08/05/2008 09:03:11 Originally by: Kerdrak Learn to read killboards tard. And please, feel free to call me noob with your scared main Those links only show they killed several lonely targets in a period of 3 hours, so they appear in the "same engagement". HEHEEEE look whos the tard Your the one who should learn to read KB's. 4 vs 11 engagement time Saturday 26th Apr 2008 05:44 - 06:18 (averaging less than 3 mins per kill (not bad for a single raven damage dealer) 8 vs 18 engagement time Monday 28th Apr 2008 05:57 - 07:10 Over 3 mins per kill but i suppose they had to avoid the high dps of fighting so many ships at once so it figures. Neither of these engagements or even both added together take 3 hours do they tard??..i suggest you think or read before you troll in future muppet. Oh and a clownish troll like you is not worthy of knowing who my main is your way much or a noobtard.
HellsRazor Caldari Priory Of The Lemon R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.05.08 09:02:00 - [144] Originally by: Angor Originally by: Colje So I just went through your KB (minus 2 weeks), those numbers you reported is just pure LIES. Go ahead ppl, check it yourself. Sure you got loads of cheap kills...but 45 bil vs 1.6 bil? just lol . ITS ALL LIES I think (not positive) he is referring to the kills being recorded as roadkill or smash.. infact certain entities that are hostile to smashkill on your campaign stats. I am assuming as you claim your contract was VS smash and roadkill at the most allies. BUT you have kills that are hostile to us to boost your uberness... so to equal it out we should count all kills in GEM. that are hostile to us we killed against your stats..... just guessing.
malekai VersaTech Interstellar Ltd. SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.08 09:06:00 - [145] Didnt kill me or any of my alts .... i must not be leet .
Kerdrak 3B Legio IX Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.08 09:13:00 - [146] Originally by: lecrotta mental diarrhoea Funny how trolls only read what they want to read. But seriously, keep cloaked behind your trolling alt, nobody will know how you suck ingame ________________________________________
SSgt Sniper Gallente MAIDS	Posted - 2008.05.08 09:13:00 - [147] Originally by: Bobby Atlas Originally by: Shin Ra Originally by: Peoke finest pvpers. so those 200+ man fleets and dreads in drones, means our finest pvpers are dealing with you. Really stop blowing the smoke your camping did so little i didnt even bother to fight you. Didn't bother, or couldn't! Talk about blowing smoke. You can type, albeit with bad punctuation. However, you have never been a PVPer, let alone a fine one. Your camps although effective in nailing random and unaware individuals really proved ineffectual on a larger scale do simply to your numbers and tactics. When it was needed and warranted we would bust through you guys with little effort, such as to move freighters or similar. In other circumstances it was just the usual day to day life in geminate and bwf area - you think this is an exceptional situation that warrants an exceptional post but what you fail to realize is that is just everyday life in BWF area - cya BE. Bobby, save yourself the trouble. Burn Eden wants ganks, not pvp, and always cloaks at the first sign of an actual fight, yet continues to consider themselves some sort of pvp god. Meh. ------- CEO of Maids. No I didn't pick the name. I've grown rather fond of it though.
Naecuss Minmatar 7th Space Cavalry R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.05.08 09:14:00 - [148] I am one of those in unexperienced pvp pilots that have joined Smashkill I have lost at least 2 x Rigged Ravens due to carelessness BWF/BND/100, 2 x Rifters for gang tackling (it happens) and a blackbird due to intel a bit late on bwf/oji and by the time I jumped in to get to gate it was to late. But most of all I enjoyed every second of it. I have got replacement ships (Bs and Bc) with help from my corp and corp mates and I will lose a few more but will gain pvp experience and I am like others may seem like the "Fat" but we will get leaner and meaner due to it. I love the local harassment around bwf/oji/100 keeps me on my toes and with plenty of pvp skirmishes to boot. I will not always be a "unexperienced pvp pilot" so I look forward to pay back tenth fold so "Who that laughs last, laughs the loudest", oops I got to go it's time to start my inceptor skill. If you find any bad punctuation keep em.... don't care, see you Peoke on the front line with another fleet fitted Bs bwf has fulfilled it's purpose.
lecrotta lecrotta Corp	Posted - 2008.05.08 09:15:00 - [149] Originally by: Kerdrak Originally by: lecrotta mental diarrhoea Funny how trolls only read what they want to read. But seriously, keep cloaked behind your trolling alt, nobody will know how you suck ingame Proof or stfu.
Lemptie Gallente Glass House	Posted - 2008.05.08 09:26:00 - [150] Always nice to see that afk and cloakes on ships ,are still the I-WINN tactics in eve.Thanks CCP.Can we now go for totall AFK and have a program that you uncloak when a red is in range so we can play for 24/7 WOW?



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