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Thoran Karlien Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.14 20:38:00 - [451] Well... it is my turn of duty as a forum whorrior... Originally by: posteroid Who cares about your wallets its ours that get filled from ratting you morons in your own systems Mhmm... so you care about your internetpixel wallets... like the lvl 4 mission running carebear? taking no risk, just see your wallet grow? cool... Best analogy i came up with was like a big army and an enemy skirmish group... yeah, the skirmisher are the elite, they are better equipt, better trained and have better k/d ratios... but to be honest... be as such a group is really just too small to be felt. Well, except the "no caviar" nights... those really sucks, when you managed to gank a supply ship :-( I had three contacts with the BE campaign. granted i don't really reside on that side, but anyway.. the first was the anouncement you would come the second was a bs kill with a prominent name of yours on the loosing side the thrid was this abonimation of a thread Now there are only three things left to say: I am not an english natural speaker, so yes, you can flame me for me grip of the english language My kill stats are abyssmal, i am no elite pvper nor will i ever be one Elite groups who only recruit the elite will die, if they don't change... hope be will change, or perhaps this was already the beginning of the end. ____________________________ Whine : The only FOTM than never gets nerved or out of style!
posteroid im right your wrong	Posted - 2008.05.14 20:46:00 - [452] Edited by: posteroid on 14/05/2008 20:47:55 Originally by: Thoran Karlien Elite groups who only recruit the elite will die, if they don't change... hope be will change, or perhaps this was already the beginning of the end. Yea cos the changes over the next few days are gonna really cripple us i mean its not like BE has been going since 2003. So tell me again how to keep a corp going in eve mr 2006 as your obviously highly knowledgeable on the subject.............
King Hopy Beasts of Burden R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.05.14 20:51:00 - [453] Originally by: posteroid Edited by: posteroid on 14/05/2008 20:47:55 Originally by: Thoran Karlien Elite groups who only recruit the elite will die, if they don't change... hope be will change, or perhaps this was already the beginning of the end. Yea cos the changes over the next few days are gonna really cripple us i mean its not like BE has been going since 2003. So tell me again how to keep a corp going in eve mr 2006 as your obviously highly knowledgeable on the subject............. Just a question. What will you do when the cloaking on non specialized ships gets nerfed?
Porgy Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.05.14 20:52:00 - [454] oooh ooh I can play this game! How bout this: I know you are but what am I? Did I do it right? _______________________
posteroid im right your wrong	Posted - 2008.05.14 20:55:00 - [455] Edited by: posteroid on 14/05/2008 20:55:19 Originally by: King Hopy Originally by: posteroid Originally by: Thoran Karlien Elite groups who only recruit the elite will die, if they don't change... hope be will change, or perhaps this was already the beginning of the end. Yea cos the changes over the next few days are gonna really cripple us i mean its not like BE has been going since 2003. So tell me again how to keep a corp going in eve mr 2006 as your obviously highly knowledgeable on the subject............. Just a question. What will you do when the cloaking on non specialized ships gets nerfed? You mean how will we adapt like we did with stabs and all the other things we adapted around after they were nerfed over the last 4+ years???. I guess you will have to wait and see.
Crackzilla The Shadow Order SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.14 21:29:00 - [456] Originally by: posteroid What you and others fail to realize is that BE use cloaks mostly to avoid having to jump from safe to safe while in hostile space thus avoiding getting probed and blobbed, now there are other reasons but this is the main one and it effects us negatively in actual combat by reducing lock time. I'm sure any titan pilot out there would use the same reasoning. At the end of the day cloaks allow you to pick your targets with zero risk. Enagage when you wish against easy targets. Avoid combat against what could kill you. What we get are entire gangs/fleets that are cloaked off of a gate. Tacklers, dictors, webbers, dps. Combined with a scout in the next system anyone jumping through the gate must take a risk while you do not.
Kera Delacour Evenstar Industries	Posted - 2008.05.14 21:29:00 - [457] Edited by: Kera Delacour on 14/05/2008 21:31:34 Originally by: Shin Ra Originally by: Kera Delacour what's BE done? Wayyyyyy more than you. Wow? More than a carebear living in high-sec? I'm impressed... really :) Originally by: Ghaelsto Kakram Guess you missed the gazillion posts about BE'd downtime TS invitations. Um... how exactly does this impact the game? Yes it's a nice service... but I'd argue that Eve fitting tool, Evemon, The ore website, eveinfo, the EVE Maps, EVE Meep and any number of other sites provide more of a service than that. Those are all run, by the way, by individuals.... so I'm still wondering how you figure you've had more of an impact on the game than any other alliance? Let alone individuals. That was YOUR claim, not mine :) I'm just reading a forum and observing and asking questions. Sorry if you don't like the honest truth but the fact is that you have done bupkis to influence the course of events in EVE. A ganker gang on a gate is hardly ground shaking in the grand scheme of galactic politics. ----------- EVNS, bringing quality carebearing to a solar system near you!
Kera Delacour Evenstar Industries	Posted - 2008.05.14 21:31:00 - [458] Originally by: ***zilla Originally by:** posteroid What you and others fail to realize is that BE use cloaks mostly to avoid having to jump from safe to safe while in hostile space thus avoiding getting probed and blobbed, now there are other reasons but this is the main one and it effects us negatively in actual combat by reducing lock time. I'm sure any titan pilot out there would use the same reasoning. At the end of the day cloaks allow you to pick your targets with zero risk. Enagage when you wish against easy targets. Avoid combat against what could kill you. What we get are entire gangs/fleets that are cloaked off of a gate. Tacklers, dictors, webbers, dps. Combined with a scout in the next system anyone jumping through the gate must take a risk while you do not. Don't forget the TS spies. God forbid they should engage without actually knowing what the enemy is doing as they're doing it. ----------- EVNS, bringing quality carebearing to a solar system near you!
Crackzilla The Shadow Order SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.14 21:35:00 - [459] Originally by: Kera Delacour Don't forget the TS spies. Very true. Gotta have TS spies or how else would you know when to alt-tab from WoW to Eve? Best to be afk and cloaked then take any chances.
posteroid im right your wrong	Posted - 2008.05.14 21:42:00 - [460] Edited by: posteroid on 14/05/2008 21:43:14 Originally by: *****zilla I'm sure any titan pilot out there would use the same reasoning. At the end of the day cloaks allow you to pick your targets with zero risk. Enagage when you wish against easy targets. Avoid combat against what could kill you. What we get are entire gangs/fleets that are cloaked off of a gate. Tacklers, dictors, webbers, dps. Combined with a scout in the next system anyone jumping through the gate must take a risk while you do not. NO i do not think that titan pilots can warp between safes to avoid getting probed like conventional ships (they are hardly the most nimble of chappies) tbh so its not the same. We avoid combat against uber blobs but we will engage outnumbered just not stupidly outnumbered where losing all our ships is a virtual certainty. Warping from safe to safe until a valid target/targets arrive would stop probers from catching us just the same but would be a bit of a pain tbh but is also risk free. PS: We sometimes have spies we sometimes do not it depends on the alliance but then name me a alliance that does not....

Crackzilla The Shadow Order SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.14 21:59:00 - [461] Edited by: ***zilla on 14/05/2008 22:00:13 Originally by: posteroid NO i do not think that titan pilots can warp between safes to avoid getting probed like conventional ships (they are hardly the most nimble of chappies) tbh so its not the same. Actually titans can warp from safe to safe; just like any other ship. No rational super cap pilot would do this as a cloak offers a vastly superior alternative. I would agree with cloaks being a balanced option besides jumping safe spots except for two issues. One is that cloaks have no chance of being probed. And two they make safe spots obsolete when you can use an off grid sling, warp back to the gate, then cloak. Cloaks allow you to sit off a gate and engage when the risk is perceived to be minimal. Cloaks remove risks for super caps just as they do for gangs of tacklers/dps. Originally by: posteroid Warping from safe to safe until a valid target/targets arrive would stop probers from catching us just the same but would be a bit of a pain tbh but is also risk free. Mostly chance based. There is a small window where you can be probed. Of course this is unacceptable when cloaks offer no risk and the convenience of being staged at a sniper spot and already aligned. Originally by: posteroid PS: We sometimes have spies we sometimes do not it depends on the alliance but then name me a alliance that does not.... Reasonable enough. Now where do I signup to get my spy into your alliance and whats is the logon info to listen to your voice coms (and not just guest)? No? So you admit to meta gaming and to using spies to reduce risk? Is this something to be proud of? Seems to me that once you cross this line then pvp becomes who has the better spies. Since small corps will have fewer spies then small corps must be better right?
Thoran Karlien Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.14 21:59:00 - [462] Originally by: posteroid Edited by: posteroid on 14/05/2008 20:47:55 Yea cos the changes over the next few days are gonna really cripple us i mean its not like BE has been going since 2003. So tell me again how to keep a corp going in eve mr 2006 as your obviously highly knowledgeable on the subject............. Since 2003? oh wow... that would make you... wow... like really really old... And I never said int he next few days... but next year? the year after? you still sure be will be around? When the big boyz are playing with their tech 2 titans and you sit on gates and gank people? still having fun, when you get your 9000 to zero k/d while other have lagfree 200 vs 200 battles? Hasn't a member just recently left the corp? Found a replacement? One that is uber enough to join? ____________________________ Whine : The only FOTM than never gets nerved or out of style!
posteroid im right your wrong	Posted - 2008.05.14 22:20:00 - [463] Originally by: ***zilla Originally by:** posteroid NO i do not think that titan pilots can warp between safes to avoid getting probed like conventional ships (they are hardly the most nimble of chappies) tbh so its not the same. Actually titans can warp from safe to safe; just like any other ship. No rational super cap pilot would do this as a cloak offers a vastly superior alternative. That because they would proly be probed long before they got to warp as a titan is as slow as hell to warp. We do it cos its convenient as well so we do not need to jump safes, and do not forget for doing so we cannot lock for 10 seconds after dropping cloak and also have a much slower lock time and for a BS thats a loooong time.
Sekhmet Orion Mandatory Suicide Incorporated	Posted - 2008.05.14 22:26:00 - [464] Originally by: posteroid froth rant froth I see you are still throwing toys out the pram. You are going to have a headache tomorrow, I told you to drink water. If anyone is bitter here, it is obviously you, as you don't seem to get the recognition you once had. No matter how much you stomp your little feet, nobody is really bothered about you. Does that upset you? It's sad to see the good name of burn Eden fade into the past, but with people like you representing them, its not ******* surprising As for me being a Roadkill/Smash/Atlas alt..you covered your bases there, but you are miles away. It's not hard to work it out, but I guess your intell is as good as your intellect.
Thoran Karlien Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.14 22:26:00 - [465] We leave the bad locking time to you, you leave us the super cap probing, okay? Because you don't want to do the "boring" stuff, right? ____________________________ Whine : The only FOTM than never gets nerved or out of style!
Crackzilla The Shadow Order SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.14 22:28:00 - [466] Originally by: posteroid do not forget for doing so we cannot lock for 10 seconds after dropping cloak Scouts help in giving a heads up whats going through the gate. This is also what disposable out of corp dictors/tacklers are for. Originally by: posteroid ...and also have a much slower lock time and for a BS thats a loooong time. Countered with a <finger quotes>"Sensor Booster"</finger quotes>. Anything that doesn't pop from the tacklers should be easy to lock for the battleships.
posteroid im right your wrong	Posted - 2008.05.14 22:41:00 - [467] Edited by: posteroid on 14/05/2008 22:43:35 Originally by: Thoran Karlien We leave the bad locking time to you, you leave us the super cap probing, okay? Because you don't want to do the "boring" stuff, right? YES your finally your catching on. Actually if you consider the average age of a BE member is about 3 or 4 years in eve or longer for some we have done the whole frozen screen blob fight, and the "we are uber we own space" bit, we have killed capitals we have killed titans some of us have planned and led fleet ops with and against capitals and titans with hundreds of conventional ships. To summarize we have done most if not all of the things that you think makes you important at the moment, and got bored with it a long time ago as it involves holding the hands of morons who will never learn. So we fly together with others who know their jobs without having to be told, we do not have or need a FC's because of our individual combat xp, although our TS is always active during combat with ppl giving intel on themselves or others.
posteroid im right your wrong	Posted - 2008.05.14 22:47:00 - [468] Originally by: *****zilla Countered with a <finger quotes>"Sensor Booster"</finger quotes>. Anything that doesn't pop from the tacklers should be easy to lock for the battleships. Remember we fly sniping ships so in the past it was easier before scripts to hit at long range and have a good lock time with a cloak but now its a bit more difficult although we do and have worked out a fit that allows us a reasonably good locking time while still allowing us to snipe.
Thoran Karlien Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.14 22:50:00 - [469] Originally by: posteroid Actually if you consider the average age of a BE member is about 3 or 4 years in eve or longer for some we have done the whole frozen screen blob fight, and the "we are uber we own space" bit, we have killed capitals we have killed titans some of us have planned and led fleet ops with and against capitals and titans with hundreds of conventional ships. To summarize we have done most if not all of the things that you think makes you important at the moment, and got bored with it a long time ago as it involves holding the hands of morons who will never learn. So we fly together with others who know their jobs without having to be told, we do not have or need a FC's because of this although our TS is always active during combat with ppl giving intel on themselves or others. You know... lag isn't as bad as earlier... so the "laggy" fleet battles isn't really helping you in your arguments... yes, lag happens, but there have to be quite a few more people than earlier... And you left the whole spaceholding behind... since 2003... a lot has changed... but some of the changes you caught, like the jump bridges... no fooling you... I never said I was important... actually I am quite happy being a small cog in the whole, thank you, I am just fine And so you basicly are snotty brats, who where never able to teach, because the attitude got in the way? Never learned what makes a true leader? Oh and btw, there are still a few questions unanswered... about everyone that doesn't fit in your way of thinking... but don't worry, most people will be able to figure out the answers themselves. ____________________________ Whine : The only FOTM than never gets nerved or out of style!
SATAN BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.	Posted - 2008.05.14 22:54:00 - [470] Is this still going? WTF... Guys who ever this Posteroid guy is just ignore him, I do not tolerate alt posting and if I find out he really is a UDIE member he will be flying a Vigil for the next few months. And I gotta say SmashKill, you really do deserve Peoke as your leader. PS. Peoke do any of these guy even know that it was us who saved you multiple times from being slapped silly by F-E? Or Stain alliance? etc.. etc.. etc.. Anyways have fun and Gank you later.

posteroid im right your wrong	Posted - 2008.05.14 22:55:00 - [471] Originally by: Thoran Karlien Originally by: posteroid Actually if you consider the average age of a BE member is about 3 or 4 years in eve or longer for some we have done the whole frozen screen blob fight, and the "we are uber we own space" bit, we have killed capitals we have killed titans some of us have planned and led fleet ops with and against capitals and titans with hundreds of conventional ships. To summarize we have done most if not all of the things that you think makes you important at the moment, and got bored with it a long time ago as it involves holding the hands of morons who will never learn. So we fly together with others who know their jobs without having to be told, we do not have or need a FC's because of this although our TS is always active during combat with ppl giving intel on themselves or others. The bitter bleating of a sheep. I agree you most certainly on one of your points you most certainly are a small c**k in a big hole.
Sekhmet Orion Mandatory Suicide Incorporated	Posted - 2008.05.14 23:01:00 - [472] Originally by: SATAN Is this still going? WTF... Guys who ever this Posteroid guy is just ignore him, I do not tolerate alt posting and if I find out he really is a UDIE member he will be flying a Vigil for the next few months. Well said SATAN, you guys have got a legacy. At the moment the little puppy Posteroid is doing his best to kill it. IF he ever was associated with you, I hope you kicked him. Fly safe, and ask OP to close this thread before the lunatic does you more damage
HellsRazor Caldari Priory Of The Lemon R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.05.14 23:03:00 - [473] Originally by: SATAN Is this still going? WTF... Guys who ever this Posteroid guy is just ignore him, I do not tolerate alt posting and if I find out he really is a UDIE member he will be flying a Vigil for the next few months. And I gotta say SmashKill, you really do deserve Peoke as your leader. PS. Peoke do any of these guy even know that it was us who saved you multiple times from being slapped silly by F-E? Or Stain alliance? etc.. etc.. etc.. Anyways have fun and Gank you later. You do know founders of Roadkill are old Stain Alliance corps. Alot of old Stainers. and posteroid I swear it went from.. "I use to be BE" to "I am in BE". unless I read wrong.
Thoran Karlien Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.14 23:06:00 - [474] Originally by: SATAN Is this still going? WTF... Guys who ever this Posteroid guy is just ignore him, I do not tolerate alt posting and if I find out he really is a UDIE member he will be flying a Vigil for the next few months. Well, thank you for clarifying... after a few of shinra's posts it was certainly a possibility that the alt was truely one of yours. I take your word for it and truely hope his attitude isn't BE's attitude. My apologies if I offended the true spokesmen of BE in my attacks of the troll. Have fun in the game, fly safe, or make other not fly safe, Thoran Karlien ____________________________ Whine : The only FOTM than never gets nerved or out of style!
DHB WildCat BURN EDEN	Posted - 2008.05.14 23:23:00 - [475] Edited by: DHB WildCat on 14/05/2008 23:24:27 Geeez! The simple truth is that we fight for fun. We do not enjoy 300 vs 300 fights. I do not enjoy 5 minute module lag, or even worse the 4 hours of prep before hand, and then the fight that "might" ensue. With that being said, what we do isnt fun for everyone either. I will admit that. What we do takes patience and the ability to run at least 3 accounts at once. We have to engage outnumbered, thats another simple truth. We have only 10ish active pilots and there is no one in EVE that says hey they have 5 guys, so lets bring 5 or less to have a good fight. They will bring as many people as who wants to come. So we HAVE to utilize the tactics that allow us to engage outnumbered 5-10 to 1, and we are f*cking good at it. I would like to have a slug fest from time to time, but then again when does anyone not blob people these days? So in the end its up to whatever people like, and IMO a small group that can go into hostile space with local at or always above 50 hostiles; and comes away with 50 billion in loot, and a K/D ratio that allows for isk making. Then maybe they are better than those that had more? Maybe not? Its a personal call. I have every right to say I'm better than you as much as you can say it to me. So lets end this crappy bickering, let the thread die, and move on. Now back to Columbo and my retirement, oh btw I am kicking Poster in the nuts now that we know who he is 8) WildCat
Faekurias Cash Money Brothers R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.05.14 23:37:00 - [476] Originally by: DHB WildCat Edited by: DHB WildCat on 14/05/2008 23:24:27 Geeez! The simple truth is that we fight for fun. We do not enjoy 300 vs 300 fights. I do not enjoy 5 minute module lag, or even worse the 4 hours of prep before hand, and then the fight that "might" ensue. With that being said, what we do isnt fun for everyone either. I will admit that. What we do takes patience and the ability to run at least 3 accounts at once. We have to engage outnumbered, thats another simple truth. We have only 10ish active pilots and there is no one in EVE that says hey they have 5 guys, so lets bring 5 or less to have a good fight. They will bring as many people as who wants to come. So we HAVE to utilize the tactics that allow us to engage outnumbered 5-10 to 1, and we are f*cking good at it. I would like to have a slug fest from time to time, but then again when does anyone not blob people these days? So in the end its up to whatever people like, and IMO a small group that can go into hostile space with local at or always above 50 hostiles; and comes away with 50 billion in loot, and a K/D ratio that allows for isk making. Then maybe they are better than those that had more? Maybe not? Its a personal call. I have every right to say I'm better than you as much as you can say it to me. So lets end this crappy bickering, let the thread die, and move on. Now back to Columbo and my retirement, oh btw I am kicking Poster in the nuts now that we know who he is 8) WildCat This post is the best post of today : 10/10 and you're tonights dreamboy. +1 for Orange text = 11/10. You sir, win. Sig locked, abuse of use - for more information mail [email protected]
Tzujeih GoonFleet	Posted - 2008.05.14 23:45:00 - [477] Hey guys, whats up?
Faekurias Cash Money Brothers R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.05.14 23:48:00 - [478] Edited by: Faekurias on 14/05/2008 23:52:04 Me, I'm what's up, although supposed to sleep for hours. Want Soup? Sig locked, abuse of use - for more information mail [email protected]
D'ceet Shadows of the Dead R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.05.15 04:07:00 - [479] LOOKIT MEEEE! LOOKIT MEE!!!!!!!1!!111! this alt war has gone on too long.. its over, its done. let it be. Official D'ceet CSM Page.
Evil Pookie BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.	Posted - 2008.05.15 05:14:00 - [480] This old girls still got some life in her. /me pokes the thread a few times



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