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Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2008.05.07 21:37:00 -
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Edited by: Shin Ra on 07/05/2008 21:38:38 I was exceptionally disappointed when BRUCE failed to even remotely impress. 2 weeks in Geminate fighting Smash, Roadkill and Atlas has taken my disappointment to new heights. The pure idiocy of these three alliances leaves BRUCE looking like PVP gods. Never has there been a more prominent case of over recruitment and general FAIL. Guys, you are terrible - sort it out.
BURN EDEN's reign of terror in Geminate has come to an end. At the end is well over 45 billion isk in damages, countless embarrassed FCs and a quick tempered leadership that completely failed in every respect. But I digress - our stats (inc dictor alts):
763 kills / 23 losses 45,893,222,516 ISK / 1,635,778,326 ISK
Kills / Losses by class Assault Ship 15 / 0 Battlecruiser 57 / 0 Battleship 70 / 8 Capsule 228 / 3 Combat Recon Ship 8 / 0 Command Ship 7 / 0 Covert Ops 11 / 0 Cruiser 50 / 0 Destroyer 5 / 0 Electronic Attack Ship 9 / 5 Exhumer 2 / 0 Force Recon Ship 35 / 1 Frigate 21 / 0 Heavy Assault Ship 45 / 0 Heavy Interdictor 7 / 0 Industrial 50 / 0 Interceptor 72 / 1 Interdictor 14 / 8 Logistics 4 / 0 Mining Barge 1 / 0 Rookie ship 17 / 0 Shuttle 8 / 0 Stealth Bomber 15 / 0 Transport Ship 12 / 0
We had a fair few new members who boosted our losses nicely. But interestingly, a large proportion of our lost ships came as a result of non-Smashkill alliances.
There are some very very bad fleet commanders out there, but Roadkill seem to have acquired more than their fair share of these. Still 11/10 for effort, 0/10 for delivery.
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Peoke
Caldari Unknown Shoe Corp. SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.07 21:38:00 -
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and we still jumped into the russians and enjoyed it. to bad sitting cloaked on a bridge isnt as much fun. But yah try again soon.
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Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2008.05.07 21:40:00 -
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Originally by: Peoke and we still jumped into the russians and enjoyed it. to bad sitting cloaked on a bridge isnt as much fun. But yah try again soon.
Oh I had a lot of fun continually slaughtering everyone of your minions and embarrassing your finest PVPers.
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Peoke
Caldari Unknown Shoe Corp. SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.07 21:41:00 -
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finest pvpers. so those 200+ man fleets and dreads in drones, means our finest pvpers are dealing with you. Really stop blowing the smoke your camping did so little i didnt even bother to fight you.
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MineralOel Steuer
Amarr OP EC
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Posted - 2008.05.07 21:42:00 -
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Smashkill fail as always, really pathetic Alliances
gj Shin Ra |
Peoke
Caldari Unknown Shoe Corp. SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.07 21:43:00 -
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oh also hot dropping 2 russian motherships and now having the record for biggest eve cap fight, means you really crippled us. what ever shall we do.
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Peoke
Caldari Unknown Shoe Corp. SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.07 21:44:00 -
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Wheres the director forums posts of us whining or crazy alliance mails of whining kids like bruce. Oh wait there isnt any..............
And yes i have to much time just for you shinra
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Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2008.05.07 21:44:00 -
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Originally by: Peoke finest pvpers. so those 200+ man fleets and dreads in drones, means our finest pvpers are dealing with you. Really stop blowing the smoke your camping did so little i didnt even bother to fight you.
Didn't bother, or couldn't!
Talk about blowing smoke. You can type, albeit with bad punctuation. However, you have never been a PVPer, let alone a fine one.
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Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2008.05.07 21:45:00 -
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Originally by: Peoke Wheres the director forums posts of us whining or crazy alliance mails of whining kids like bruce. Oh wait there isnt any..............
And yes i have to much time just for you shinra
We have it all on audio. Wait for the next video.
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Nizar
Foundation R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.07 21:45:00 -
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*me giggles*
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Valkazm
Amarr Eve Defence Force Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.05.07 21:46:00 -
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Think the op managed to what he wanted hitting a nerve .. .......................................
Quote: CCP Navigator mail at [email protected] for isk
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Peoke
Caldari Unknown Shoe Corp. SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.07 21:48:00 -
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yah we really couldnt. more of the point there was no need to. as you keep stating you cloak to run so we have much better things to do where as your contract has shown sack and allies kill 2 moms and have the largest cap fight where as you camp a jump brudge cloaked. whos enjoying eve more. OMG a punctuation and grammar remark, I will add it to the list of them i recieve.
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Bobby Atlas
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.07 21:48:00 -
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Originally by: Shin Ra
Originally by: Peoke finest pvpers. so those 200+ man fleets and dreads in drones, means our finest pvpers are dealing with you. Really stop blowing the smoke your camping did so little i didnt even bother to fight you.
Didn't bother, or couldn't!
Talk about blowing smoke. You can type, albeit with bad punctuation. However, you have never been a PVPer, let alone a fine one.
Your camps although effective in nailing random and unaware individuals really proved ineffectual on a larger scale do simply to your numbers and tactics. When it was needed and warranted we would bust through you guys with little effort, such as to move freighters or similar. In other circumstances it was just the usual day to day life in geminate and bwf area - you think this is an exceptional situation that warrants an exceptional post but what you fail to realize is that is just everyday life in BWF area - cya BE.
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omplapa
Caldari R.A.G.N.A.R.O.K.
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Posted - 2008.05.07 21:50:00 -
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Originally by: Shin Ra
Originally by: Peoke Wheres the director forums posts of us whining or crazy alliance mails of whining kids like bruce. Oh wait there isnt any..............
And yes i have to much time just for you shinra
We have it all on audio. Wait for the next video.
that vid is gonna be funny get to work shin ra and get it done
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icstunna
Shadows of the Dead R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.07 21:59:00 -
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lol reign of terror? hmm, you guys didn't seem so terrifying when we would engage you guys on equal terms, or should i say not engage. the only times you guys would decloak is when we have A) a nice juicy freighter to bait you guys B) a significantly smaller gang or C) when its a lone individual passing by.
you guys didn't seem to want to make it a 3 way in bwf though when cruel intentions moved in. you seemed to have packed up and moved on to another location.
as for engaging our best pvp'ers? yes, we should be utterly humiliated that you wasted our best pvpers and most brilliant FC's as our 200 man fleet was off in the drone regions fighting an enemy that would atleast engage back.
shame, i liked SMACKFIX but it seems we have no hope. Should probably pack up to jita then since you guys seem to have completely defeated us.
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Sevdah
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2008.05.07 22:02:00 -
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LOL, i see BE dropped into third-rateness by fighting around BWF for few weeks and posting cheap kill ratio spreadsheets like innumerable other corps. Oh well BE is so 2005 anyways, i knew that long time ago. BTW what does "..fair worse..." in the thread title means??? I guess "someone" FAILED typing here...
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Martin VanBuren
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.05.07 22:03:00 -
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jesus christ smashkill look pretty upset
you guys must have hit a nerve up there
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Ask Unbeatable
Tenacious Danes
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Posted - 2008.05.07 22:04:00 -
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Nice stats
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xBlood
Anoint
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Posted - 2008.05.07 22:05:00 -
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Gotta love it when Peoke comes out of his box.
I <3 Peoke.
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Pnuka
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.05.07 22:05:00 -
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Originally by: Martin VanBuren jesus christ smashkill look pretty upset
you guys must have hit a nerve up there
You broke the "start your post with a lol" chain good job.
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Lucias Trask
Shadows of the Dead R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.07 22:06:00 -
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BE are the ones that sit in cloaked damp-Ravens and only engage when they have no chance of getting killed right?
Oh yeah, I just skipped that system altogether when they were there.
Whats the point? They wont fight. [PANIC] |
Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2008.05.07 22:07:00 -
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Originally by: Martin VanBuren jesus christ smashkill look pretty upset
you guys must have hit a nerve up there
They didn't want those ships anyway
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kruelty
Celestial Pillagers
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Posted - 2008.05.07 22:08:00 -
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USS Gloatboat departing...next stop....Nobodycares.
50 Industrials + 21 Frigates + 17 Noob ships + 8 shuttles + 50 cruisers against your "leet zomg" fits and spies/alts.
Yeah I'm sure you killing noobie ships and frigates were real hard for such a great pvper eh?
/weaksauce
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Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2008.05.07 22:08:00 -
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Originally by: Pnuka
Originally by: Martin VanBuren jesus christ smashkill look pretty upset
you guys must have hit a nerve up there
You broke the "start your post with a lol" chain good job.
Lol, you know someone is upset then they are loling.
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Gontard
Minmatar E-Truth
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Posted - 2008.05.07 22:09:00 -
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For a cloaking nano**** corp your stats are pretty bad.
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Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2008.05.07 22:10:00 -
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Originally by: kruelty USS Gloatboat departing...next stop....Nobodycares.
50 Industrials + 21 Frigates + 17 Noob ships + 8 shuttles + 50 cruisers against your "leet zomg" fits and spies/alts.
Yeah I'm sure you killing noobie ships and frigates were real hard for such a great pvper eh?
/weaksauce
I'm glad you didn't care so much that you thought you would take the time to share this fact with everyone.
Next time start your post with "LOL" and I'll know you really don't care
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Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2008.05.07 22:12:00 -
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Originally by: Gontard For a cloaking nano**** corp your stats are pretty bad.
Don't forget the stabs - I still use those.
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Nizar
Foundation R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.07 22:13:00 -
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Originally by: Shin Ra Lol, you know someone is upset then they are loling.
haha, dont fool yourself. we lol at you cuz with your childish post you made yourself look like total eve-o nub
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Lady Valory
Caldari Caldari Strike Force
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Posted - 2008.05.07 22:13:00 -
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OK, Burn Eden,
Impressive stats
Can you PLEASE team up with a cap-heavy or bs heavy merc corp and then start clearing off the moon mining pos's?
What you are doing is pruning the trees of weak and dead branches.
The pos networks intact generate the billions of isk BACK in mere days!
Here is what I suggest then... You bring one of these alliances to their knees by singling out all those poorly defended small towers.
You pop a plat moon here, chromium tower there, a caesium tower here and there, and then the ISK machine takes a major blow as reactors run dry.
Also at that point, they bring out the real fleets and u get more killing.
Start small, Burn Eden, with some small towers that have the usual token gun on them. Hit those towers that are 10 jumps out from a station first. GL
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Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2008.05.07 22:15:00 -
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Originally by: Nizar
Originally by: Shin Ra Lol, you know someone is upset then they are loling.
haha, dont fool yourself. we lol at you cuz with your childish post you made yourself look like total eve-o nub
No you.
Technically, haha is a lol too so I can tell your still upset.
Calm down!
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Nizar
Foundation R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.07 22:17:00 -
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Originally by: Shin Ra
Originally by: Nizar
Originally by: Shin Ra Lol, you know someone is upset then they are loling.
haha, dont fool yourself. we lol at you cuz with your childish post you made yourself look like total eve-o nub
No you.
Technically, haha is a lol too so I can tell your still upset.
Calm down!
wtf dude, i dont even play eve atm. i couldnt care less. i m just killing time here and feeding trolls
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Plaetean
Personal Vendetta Vendetta Alliance.
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Posted - 2008.05.07 22:17:00 -
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haha, gj BE as always, I've been waiting to see this and it delivered
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Angelonico
Series of Tubes
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Posted - 2008.05.07 22:19:00 -
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Edited by: Angelonico on 07/05/2008 22:20:55
Originally by: Shin Ra Edited by: Shin Ra on 07/05/2008 22:07:07 I was exceptionally disappointed when BRUCE failed to even remotely impress. 2 weeks in Geminate fighting Smash, Roadkill and Atlas has taken my disappointment to new heights. Never has there been a more prominent case of over recruitment and general FAIL. Guys, you are terrible - sort it out.
Wow. Just wow. Your arrogance, while at least slightly deserved, and chest beating is absolutely sickening.
You take "serious business" to a whole new level. Coming from corp/alliance with mr. orange text in it, I find this particularly amusing.
Beating up on smashkill and bruce and then bragging about it with such vitriolic prose? Jesus man, get over yourself.
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SATAN
BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2008.05.07 22:22:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Valory OK, Burn Eden,
Impressive stats
Can you PLEASE team up with a cap-heavy or bs heavy merc corp and then start clearing off the moon mining pos's?
What you are doing is pruning the trees of weak and dead branches.
The pos networks intact generate the billions of isk BACK in mere days!
Here is what I suggest then... You bring one of these alliances to their knees by singling out all those poorly defended small towers.
You pop a plat moon here, chromium tower there, a caesium tower here and there, and then the ISK machine takes a major blow as reactors run dry.
Also at that point, they bring out the real fleets and u get more killing.
Start small, Burn Eden, with some small towers that have the usual token gun on them. Hit those towers that are 10 jumps out from a station first. GL
You are missing the point, when was the last time you saw a farmer set fire to his own grazing land's?
We are NOT interested in destroying anything, all we want is for them to die and come back in more ships. Farming is hard enough without needing to starve you cattle.
Besides, I have yet to find a competent cap fleet corp that is not attached to a huge alliance which would put us in the same boat as MC. And we would make really bad pets, stain the carpet all the time and all that stuff.
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Peoke
Caldari Unknown Shoe Corp. SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.07 22:23:00 -
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shinra if your so uber with your pvp tactics how come you suck at the pvp tourneys.
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Angelonico
Series of Tubes
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Posted - 2008.05.07 22:23:00 -
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Pardon me, wasn't your point to chest beat over internet spaceshipz?
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Fesken Rans
The Order of Cistral
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Posted - 2008.05.07 22:25:00 -
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I`m really disappointed that someone is trying to impress caod with what they did in BWF, I really am.
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Angelonico
Series of Tubes
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Posted - 2008.05.07 22:26:00 -
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Originally by: Fesken Rans I`m really disappointed that someone is trying to impress caod with what they did in BWF, I really am.
I'm glad I'm not the only one. Are these guys serious? What were they expecting, to be greeted as liberators?
Rose petals at their feet?
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Wesley Baird
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.05.07 22:26:00 -
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As always nice stats BE, much love!
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Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2008.05.07 22:28:00 -
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Edited by: Shin Ra on 07/05/2008 22:28:33
Originally by: Peoke shinra if your so uber with your pvp tactics how come you suck at the pvp tourneys.
Wait, where do you keep your Brutix model?
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Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2008.05.07 22:29:00 -
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Originally by: Angelonico Pardon me, wasn't your point to chest beat over internet spaceshipz?
No it was to receive copious amounts of attention on an electronic discussion board.
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ZenTex
Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.07 22:30:00 -
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Well done BE.
You deserve a cookie.
There's little a sledgehammer can't fix. If you can't fix it, you need a bigger sledgehammer. If it's unfixable, blame CCP. :p
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Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2008.05.07 22:31:00 -
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Originally by: Nizar
Originally by: Shin Ra
Originally by: Nizar
Originally by: Shin Ra Lol, you know someone is upset then they are loling.
haha, dont fool yourself. we lol at you cuz with your childish post you made yourself look like total eve-o nub
No you.
Technically, haha is a lol too so I can tell your still upset.
Calm down!
wtf dude, i dont even play eve atm. i couldnt care less. i m just killing time here and feeding trolls
Stop getting upset and just chill out. Don't try and take this discussion off-topic.
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HellsRazor
Caldari Priory Of The Lemon R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.07 22:32:00 -
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Edited by: HellsRazor on 07/05/2008 22:33:12 First, they came to GEM. because they lost to the Roadkill team during Fanfest Tourny.
Second, maybe we go to your space next o wait... you have none.
Third, YAY for me 5 kills and 0 losses.
Forth, im sure all of EVE will remember you for this campaign.
where's ETS4ME? he the only guy i remember being cool in BE.
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EvilFlyingMonkey
Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.07 22:34:00 -
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Sorry to say but your stats are just the same as everyone else who has come here...nothing impressive at all. i like that you do your own thing, but don't expect us to care.
Roadkill, Smash and who ever you were supposed to kill really do not care about what you do. We have more fun than you want to admit. we may loose mor than most, but all that can be replaced. If you expect so much of your enemy then you really are coming to the wrong place...the last 10 contracts on us would of told you that.
so bye bye BE, thankyou for informing us of what we allready know.
do come again, as i am sure you will, everyone else does...expecting us to change or something when we don't even want to :)
EvilMonkey. -------------------------------------------- Beware of the flying Monkeys
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BLOOD THIRSTY
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.05.07 22:36:00 -
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Originally by: Peoke shinra if your so uber with your pvp tactics how come you suck at the pvp tourneys.
As far as I know, in the last tournament they participated in, they finished third. I think that is pretty good myself. Besides any group of a number smaller than 10 that can rutinely fight in a system with local of over 50 is good imo.
Also when people call it a fair fight against these guys its usually when they outnumber BE 4-1.
I saw another post from someone that said, well it was easy to push through them when moving a freighter. How many people did it take to easily move through them? 30? 40? 60? Good job BE.
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Zubenelgenubi
Priory Of The Lemon R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.07 22:39:00 -
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I honestly didn't even realise you guys were with us.
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Moridin
Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.07 22:44:00 -
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Cya in November.
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Musgrat
Discordant Provisions
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Posted - 2008.05.07 22:45:00 -
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tbh I don't understand how you lost that many ships when you spend most of your time cloaked up. Most of your kills were onesies and twosies who were traveling alone. When you actually tried to fight, you killed more than you lost yes, but you ended up running away. You are very good at ganking in cloaky ravens 200km off a gate, I'll give you that much. But all you do is filter out the chaff from any alliance you visit. You are doing them all a service in all honesty.
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Zimi Vlasic
F.R.E.E. Explorer Atrum Tempestas Foedus
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Posted - 2008.05.07 22:46:00 -
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o/ Burn Eden
We had a lot of fun fighting you guys while you were in someone else's space. It's always great fun getting a fight from someone when the locals won't undock. ------------------ Find Roid, Examine, and Excavate Explorer |
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Dianabolic
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.05.07 22:48:00 -
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Nice stats once again.
Tip to smash et al pilots: Just say "well done", there's no mileage in commenting how much BE affected the life of the alliance because that isn't what they "do". Better to just learn, adapt and hand them their ass the next time they show up. Reikoku Diplomatic Forums
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Thux
Shooting Gallery
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Posted - 2008.05.07 22:48:00 -
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Originally by: EvilFlyingMonkey i like that you do your own thing, but don't expect us to care.
That all maybe true, however you may want to tell that guy peoke, ****onme, whatever his name is to put a lid on it. Most of us know how BE fights, knowing full well that they are the kings of the gank. But having that dude spouting off like that only makes you guys as a whole look bad.
obviously just the thoughts of an alt <3
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yunger
Big Guns Inc. Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.07 22:49:00 -
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Sometime i need to start a taking notes of all the corps/alliances that camped bwf and won eve. Or rather who has not camped bwf.. Searching on bwf in eve-search would probably kill chribbas server.
As it is now all you need to do is look at the huge amounts of haulers/transports and stuff and ask yourself how much of this was fighting and how much was "O theres another one that didn't read intel, more pretty explosion for us!! " in other words i guess you had damn fun, but chest beating for camping a choke point while the alliances living there were of fighting a war.. You seem to have fallen from glory the last year.
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EVIL SYNNs
Minmatar Shadows of the Dead R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.07 22:52:00 -
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Nice stats, I think we lost more to being invited to the Russian gang and being warped to a hostile pos though.
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EvilFlyingMonkey
Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.07 22:52:00 -
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lol most i know in rk don't care if he makes us look bad...we are to busy laughing to care :)
Originally by: Thux
Originally by: EvilFlyingMonkey i like that you do your own thing, but don't expect us to care.
That all maybe true, however you may want to tell that guy peoke, ****onme, whatever his name is to put a lid on it. Most of us know how BE fights, knowing full well that they are the kings of the gank. But having that dude spouting off like that only makes you guys as a whole look bad.
obviously just the thoughts of an alt <3
-------------------------------------------- Beware of the flying Monkeys
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Zimi Vlasic
F.R.E.E. Explorer Atrum Tempestas Foedus
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Posted - 2008.05.07 22:56:00 -
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I forgot to mention, DAMN are those hyenas effective. ------------------ Find Roid, Examine, and Excavate Explorer |
Taxtro Grave
Lucky Hydra Corp SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.07 23:01:00 -
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Edited by: Taxtro Grave on 07/05/2008 23:03:29 Hey, i have been with Smash alliance for almost 6 months and that alliance is the only alliance i will ever call home. You can say what you like but why say it to everybody? To me it sounds like you are looking for an excuse why your Burn Eden is no longer in Gem.
Also, i am requesting this topic be locked. This tread is filled with flames and hate to one another
Proud member of Lucky Hydra Corp in the best alliance ever, Smash Alliance LONG LIVE SMASH! |
TOTALHELLDEATH
Caldari Stellar Convertors
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Posted - 2008.05.07 23:02:00 -
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Originally by: Peoke oh also hot dropping 2 russian motherships and now having the record for biggest eve cap fight, means you really crippled us. what ever shall we do.
look at me !!! i killed the ibis of a russain player! that's now mean im a uber pvpproeveplayer! yeah
lolz.
sorry Peoke you should realy stop posting on coad, you make smash looking like fools
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Crackzilla
The Shadow Order SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.07 23:05:00 -
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Originally by: Shin Ra 763 kills / 23 losses
Geeze, do you realize how bad that is? Last coad post from a corp I can't remember i'm-camping-geminate-and-im-elite crowd nailed about 500 kills in about 2 weeks camping a gate an hour or two every day. I think you were you there much longer. Removing pods etc puts you at 489 kills. Had my money on 1500 kills. You do disappoint.
But you were fun. Alt was on a few of your battleship losses. I didn't lose anything myself. Some of my corp members had a blast playing around with you. The only corp losses of any note was due to folks that simply didn't check intel.
When we did organize something either we couldn't get a fight or we'd pop one or two of your heavier ships. If you notice that a signifiant proportion of your losses were from non Smashkill alliances. Generally gangs red to us are in gang, organized, and looking for a fight when they swing through our space. This shows that you can be killed without much difficulty by someone that cares.
Congratulations on killing those that can't be bothered to watch the intel channel or form a proper gang.
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Nizar
Foundation R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.07 23:06:00 -
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Originally by: IHurricane Damn, I can't wait for the day we come for you. Lets just hope that the Goons / Russians don't finnish you off before we get there.
yeah, whatever. get in line plz. the waiting list is long
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fugazii
Deep Space Productions
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Posted - 2008.05.07 23:06:00 -
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Originally by: Peoke finest pvpers. so those 200+ man fleets and dreads in drones, means our finest pvpers are dealing with you. Really stop blowing the smoke your camping did so little i didnt even bother to fight you.
Totaly agree, all the hardcore pvp'rs go sit at pos's for hours in hope of getting into a huge lagfest of a fight.
"AWW sweet dude, I actually loaded the enemy this fight!!"
"Man this is intense, I got 1 of my moduals turned on in record time, only 5minutes! only another half hour and I'll be rocking out all highs!!"
Yep, when I think of pvp, I think of that.
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Tenebrys
Havoc Violence and Chaos R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.07 23:08:00 -
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Edited by: Tenebrys on 07/05/2008 23:08:49 i only saw you guys (edit heard of you guys being) in q-t once
its so boring there
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Mairon
Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.07 23:19:00 -
[63]
Thanks for the visit BE. Always a pleasure.
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Wraithstorm
Hunters Agency Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2008.05.07 23:21:00 -
[64]
You guys are good at what you do period. I honestly think you do any 0.0 Alliance a great service in removing the ******s who cant watch intel channels.
Have fun with what you cloaking *****heads do next!
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King Hopy
Beasts of Burden R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.07 23:24:00 -
[65]
It's still funny how they actually think they achieved something spectacular :)
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Crackzilla
The Shadow Order SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.07 23:26:00 -
[66]
Originally by: fugazii Totaly agree, all the hardcore pvp'rs go sit at pos's for hours in hope of getting into a huge lagfest of a fight.
Then you missed out an epic fight that folks were jazzed over.
The first 30 minutes weren't bad. Some module lag but manageable. Some didn't have many issues. Tons of pew pew. That many ships wouldn't have gone down if lag were that bad. I shot a bunch and my dread went down fast when it was primaried.
The last 30 minutes got bad for some of us. I don't have a clue how my carrier got popped. I couldn't lock anything. Was descynched. Took like 20 minutes to lag back in. Couldn't see anything. Died somehow. But for many it wasn't this bad.
Either way I wouldn't be scared of a bit of lag for an epic fight.
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Jaini Hotori
GTE Corp
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Posted - 2008.05.07 23:30:00 -
[67]
nice stats.
looks like the tri kilboard after a weekend in Z-K
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Kol Skywalker
Shadows of the Dead R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.07 23:34:00 -
[68]
OH NOES!
We bring the fleet, and you run
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Kuzya Morozov
Gallente The Older Gamers R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.07 23:36:00 -
[69]
Originally by: Shin Ra your finest PVPers.
...you suicided your RK alts to boost your stats haha.
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Brunswick2
coracao ardente Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2008.05.07 23:36:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Peoke and now having the record for biggest eve cap fight, means you really crippled us. what ever shall we do.
i'm surprised no one has brought this up yet.
sry, nop.
oh, and <3 shin ra
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Goberth Ludwig
eXceed Inc. eXceed.
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Posted - 2008.05.07 23:40:00 -
[71]
Originally by: USN CVN72 Edited by: USN CVN72 on 07/05/2008 22:57:17
Originally by: Shin Ra Edited by: Shin Ra on 07/05/2008 22:07:07 I was exceptionally disappointed when BRUCE failed to even remotely impress. 2 weeks in Geminate fighting Smash, Roadkill and Atlas has taken my disappointment to new heights. The pure idiocy of these three alliances leaves BRUCE looking like PVP gods. Never has there been a more prominent case of over recruitment and general FAIL. Guys, you are terrible - sort it out.
BURN EDEN's reign of terror in Geminate has come to an end. At the end is well over 45 billion isk in damages, countless embarrassed FCs and a quick tempered leadership that completely failed in every respect. But I digress - our stats (inc dictor alts):
763 kills / 23 losses 45,893,222,516 ISK / 1,635,778,326 ISK
Kills / Losses by class Assault Ship 15 / 0 Battlecruiser 57 / 0 Battleship 70 / 8 Capsule 228 / 3 Combat Recon Ship 8 / 0 Command Ship 7 / 0 Covert Ops 11 / 0 Cruiser 50 / 0 Destroyer 5 / 0 Electronic Attack Ship 9 / 5 Exhumer 2 / 0 Force Recon Ship 35 / 1 Frigate 21 / 0 Heavy Assault Ship 45 / 0 Heavy Interdictor 7 / 0 Industrial 50 / 0 Interceptor 72 / 1 Interdictor 14 / 8 Logistics 4 / 0 Mining Barge 1 / 0 Rookie ship 17 / 0 Shuttle 8 / 0 Stealth Bomber 15 / 0 Transport Ship 12 / 0
We had a fair few new members who boosted our losses nicely. But interestingly, a large proportion of our lost ships came as a result of non-Smashkill alliances.
There are some very very bad fleet commanders out there, but Roadkill seem to have acquired more than their fair share of these. Still 11/10 for effort, 0/10 for delivery.
Shin Ra,
Let me give you my thoughts. You are so YESTERDAY NEWS. SMACKFIX didnt bother with you guys camping bwf and camping q-t because of other more important matters. What engagements you had were the folks that do not participate in pvp for the most part. Shin Ra, You call yourself PVPr's camping in oj and bwf gate and near q-t a success? Tri - totally out classed you guys by far in a bwf attack amd roaming gangs into Q-T Burn Edan as i stated before you are so YESTERDAY NEWS!!!
mommy i killed 763 spaceships i am the king of the world!!! oh ya baby we are not getting the attention we deserve in eve so we must post our ganking success in bwf
look at yourself you are so upset you forgot "*ding ding USN arriving/departing*"
- Gob
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Angelonico
Series of Tubes
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Posted - 2008.05.07 23:45:00 -
[72]
Is a person who signs their posts with "gob" making fun of his USN gimmick?
Oh christ, CAOD you are priceless.
- Gob
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MineralOel Steuer
Amarr OP EC
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Posted - 2008.05.07 23:47:00 -
[73]
Originally by: Angelonico Is a person who signs their posts with "gob" making fun of his USN gimmick?
Oh christ, CAOD you are priceless.
- Gob
terrible post!
leave Gob alone !! |
overcorpse
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Posted - 2008.05.07 23:48:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Shin Ra
Originally by: Peoke finest pvpers. so those 200+ man fleets and dreads in drones, means our finest pvpers are dealing with you. Really stop blowing the smoke your camping did so little i didnt even bother to fight you.
Didn't bother, or couldn't!
Talk about blowing smoke. You can type, albeit with bad punctuation. However, you have never been a PVPer, let alone a fine one.
People who live in glass houses should not throw stones,id fix your title before you make snide remarks about grammar.
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Angelonico
Series of Tubes
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Posted - 2008.05.07 23:48:00 -
[75]
Originally by: MineralOel Steuer
Originally by: Angelonico Is a person who signs their posts with "gob" making fun of his USN gimmick?
Oh christ, CAOD you are priceless.
- Gob
terrible post!
leave Gob alone !!
Ok. But only because you asked nice and didn't sign your post.
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Porgy
Foundation R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.07 23:49:00 -
[76]
Edited by: Porgy on 07/05/2008 23:50:05 Everyone just hand this kid a cookie and send him on his way. Those out fighting the real fight in drones applaud your supreme gate ganking skills and staggering caod chest beating kill stats. We can't wait for the video!
"Alright it's an indy! Decloak, decloak, decloak!"
Just another day in bwf. Thank you please come again. _______________________
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MineralOel Steuer
Amarr OP EC
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Posted - 2008.05.07 23:52:00 -
[77]
Originally by: overcorpse
People who live in glass houses should not throw stones,id fix your title before you make snide remarks about grammar.
People without Corpticker in CAOD fail really bad |
Vim
Foundation R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.07 23:58:00 -
[78]
Its fun camping gates cloaked now and then for a couple of days, BE does it well as always.
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Martin VanBuren
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.05.07 23:59:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Porgy Edited by: Porgy on 07/05/2008 23:50:05 Everyone just hand this kid a cookie and send him on his way. Those out fighting the real fight in drones applaud your supreme gate ganking skills and staggering caod chest beating kill stats. We can't wait for the video!
"Alright it's an indy! Decloak, decloak, decloak!"
Just another day in bwf. Thank you please come again.
^^ Those out there fighting the real *loses 50 capitals* fight in the drone regions ^^
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Bashiri
Point-Zero SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.08 00:06:00 -
[80]
Nice work pure ganks(a few fights from what i remember)
Tri did a 100X better job then you and they was not cloaked up.
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Lucias Trask
Shadows of the Dead R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.08 00:08:00 -
[81]
I wonder how many SMACK Carebears I could kill camping the Q-T gate... they would never see it coming.
I could jump in a snipey Mega and cloak it.. then wait for some afker to go through and blast him.
I bet I could match those stats in less than 2 weeks.
Anyone care to camp the Q-T gate for SMACK Carebears with me? [PANIC] |
Tenebrys
Havoc Violence and Chaos R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.08 00:12:00 -
[82]
Edited by: Tenebrys on 08/05/2008 00:12:52 yeah i thought tri were cool
i mean they come kill you and your like "wow gf nice tactics" and think tri are awesome then they kill your ms too and your like "oh no alliance in trouble"
be wait for you to come and kill you and your like "ugh cheapass" then they see an ms and run away and you buy another ship
wouldnt know about that second part though be never killed me once they never seemed to travel anywhere much
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mishkof
Caldari Dirty Denizens
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Posted - 2008.05.08 00:21:00 -
[83]
Nice stats as always.
Unfortunately this thread while being in the same viciinity as the one outlining the largest capital engagement in Eve really puts your operations into perspective.
Your operation was a success based upon your corps mission statement, and I think that most of this forum will agree...you are extremely good at what you do. However based on a couple factors I hardly think that your thread deserves the title it does, nor is the following e-peen waving validated.
I own a T2 BPO and Capital alt, therefor all of my views will be pro-Capital Alt/T2 BPO orientated. Please pick one of the following settings for your response. []hate me []troll me []smack me |
Banlish
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.08 00:22:00 -
[84]
I'll try to give a smack free post since Shin Ra seems to have smacked enough for 40 CAOD threads.
I always find it funny when people say "you failed to impress" or something when dealing with cloakers in games.
We could counter your tactics with the same but then we'd just all sit around cloaked waiting for someone to fall asleep, face plant into the keyboard and uncloak for a quick loss.
Not sure where the embarrassed FC's comment comes from, I'm in the leadership channels and we told people we weren't going to focus on BWF because we have a war for territory to deal with.
90% of the coalition followed by those rules and came to help our allies. As you can see from the stats some didn't, some got lax, some haven't been on in a while and didn't know. There isn't any excuse not to read intel channels so that's their mistake.
Many people (that read intel) took other avenues to get out here, or other methods to move supplies or loots through or around the camp. Again, nothing too major.
A minority of people here realize that your tactics do indeed prune the ranks of dead weight, and teach some lessons that are needed to newbie characters. That minority have thanked you and realized that as your tactics are being adjusted to you will again move on and teach another alliance the price of laziness or lax.
I find it in poor form to insult people that play a game, but then again EVE continues to (de)evolve in certain aspects and the former posts form Burn Eden about their campaigns have taken on a more ... snide tone. That is your right so enjoy I guess, I don't find it angering, saddening, maddening or any emotion really. You attacked an area, now your moving on. I did notice the one time we didn't have a CTA in effect we saw your gang take it's biggest losses from those FC's back from the front.
You posted your losses, so props for that. You can be disappointed in us, but we still have our space so *shrugs* You will continue to move on, I'd be interested to see if you camp a bigger coalition then ours (like RSF) if you'd get the same amount of kills. But I think they have too many pipes for your forces to cover.
Enjoy your kills, it's a game after all, but a tad bit less 'arrogance' never hurts for every winning streak does after all come to an end eventually.
Atlas Head Diplomat CEO - Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Carebear Pvper?!?!? |
Pinza
Point-Zero SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.08 00:24:00 -
[85]
Edited by: Pinza on 08/05/2008 00:25:37
Originally by: Tenebrys Edited by: Tenebrys on 08/05/2008 00:12:52 yeah i thought tri were cool
i mean they come kill you and your like "wow gf nice tactics" and think tri are awesome then they kill your ms too and your like "oh no alliance in trouble"
be wait for you to come and kill you and your like "ugh cheapass" then they see an ms and run away and you buy another ship
wouldnt know about that second part though be never killed me once they never seemed to travel anywhere much
Wow, I didn't know Peoke had a brother...
PS. Pretty cute BE post here. Funny stuff.
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Goca
KAOS. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2008.05.08 00:32:00 -
[86]
nice stats as always guys :)
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Angor
BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2008.05.08 00:32:00 -
[87]
Why do people compair us to other PVP entities like tri. TRI who assaulted Smashkill space with hundreds of ships and caps, moms etc. Of course Tri probably got more kills in Z-K in a weekend than we got in 2 weeks. What do you expect with like 50x the numbers we can field and in a major warzone.
And to smashkill, i dont know where all the bitterness comes from. Its not like we sit there and ONLY engage ppl who dont check intel and travel on their own (although carebear zidrine drops are always nice). We WILL engage any size fleet if it is feezable for every ship to survive the battle to fight another day and that is where our understanding of PVP is different:
Smash/Roadkill and all other major alliances PVP in these large lagged out slugfests where the winner is the last man standing holding the field. Most of our players have lived through this and do not enjoy this type of gameplay so we keep to small size fleets and enjoy the lag free fights we usually get. We generally stay away from space holding stuff like boring pos shooting ops. Also, unlike your 400man blobs, every member of the Burn Eden "team" is an important member of the gang, loosing ships isnt really acceptable even if we kill 50 of your guys in the process - its still classed as an unacceptable loss as we're then an "important" man down.
Fighting this way (to me at least) is much better than being some piece of cannon fodder in a sea of wrecks. So i am sorry if we occasionally retreat from the battlefield when all your fleet warps ontop of us, we must suck! _______________________________ [ 2007.06.07 21:07:22 ] FrankyWave > ransom me guys I am joining XElas !!! |
NATMav
F.R.E.E. Explorer Atrum Tempestas Foedus
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Posted - 2008.05.08 00:37:00 -
[88]
I'm happy to say that one of our nano gangs were responsible for three of those battleship losses, in three minutes no less.
That'll teach you to steal our targets!
Farham: "Remember, sometimes evolution ends in extinction." |
Angor
BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2008.05.08 00:46:00 -
[89]
Originally by: NATMav I'm happy to say that one of our nano gangs were responsible for three of those battleship losses, in three minutes no less.
That'll teach you to steal our targets!
Yeah that fight when we engaged your fleet (and i lost a raven) we could have warped off but we decided to engage your nano fleet with only 1 hyena as tackle. Unfortunatly a minute or so into the fight i think you guys decloaked 2 rapiers and killed our tackler, which was game over for our bs's. But yet again, we engage outnumbered 4 vs 9 was it i think, 3 ravens an a hynea vs multiple nano ships... and yet we dont fight. _______________________________ [ 2007.06.07 21:07:22 ] FrankyWave > ransom me guys I am joining XElas !!! |
Tobias Sjodin
Ore Mongers Black Hand.
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Posted - 2008.05.08 00:49:00 -
[90]
Clearly SMASHKILL is defeated. They lost 19 carriers to TRI and could brush that off with ease, but not this!
It's back to empire guys.
Black Hand.
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Lee ChanKa
Viper Squad Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.05.08 00:51:00 -
[91]
Edited by: Lee ChanKa on 08/05/2008 00:51:59 gj ppl not just for smashkill..for evry region...for thet nead a loot of discipline and teamwork i culd newher do thet.1 more time GJ and keap pushing!
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NATMav
F.R.E.E. Explorer Atrum Tempestas Foedus
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Posted - 2008.05.08 00:53:00 -
[92]
Originally by: Angor But yet again, we engage outnumbered 4 vs 9 was it i think, 3 ravens an a hynea vs multiple nano ships... and yet we dont fight.
You'll never hear me disagree.
Farham: "Remember, sometimes evolution ends in extinction." |
D'ceet
Shadows of the Dead R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.08 00:59:00 -
[93]
oh noes! teh BE alts got me!!1!
lost ships to Burn Eden: 1 Crow
lost to Burn Eden Alts: 1 Crow 1 Hauler(empty)
i guess this means i must go back to Jita and mine veldspar =*(
oh well, ill live, thanks for some cheap thrills burn eden =) especially our FC...who wasnt that great( and will remain nameless ) "THANKS BURN EDEN SPYS! THANKS FOR GIVING AWAY OUR FLEET!" great times on Team Speak =D Official D'ceet CSM Page.
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Tyremis
Spartan Industrial Manufacturing SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.08 01:04:00 -
[94]
i snuck billions by BE for 2 straight weeks. so im not impressed. When we actually have enough time to sit their cloaked next to you for 2 weeks (as if that would be fun) youll see your stats change big time. btw mr stats god your missing on of your raven kms i got on. I personally got on 3 BS km lost a ceptor tackling you and a huginn tryin to save some stupid person. And what you think your gods of pvp. I lold honest
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Ruyiwei
SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2008.05.08 01:07:00 -
[95]
watch this also old movie and get over it ;)
B_E_Movie
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Trask Kilraen
The Older Gamers R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.08 01:11:00 -
[96]
Burn Eden was in Geminate? ------------------------------------------
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SATAN
BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2008.05.08 01:21:00 -
[97]
Originally by: D'ceet oh noes! teh BE alts got me!!1!
lost ships to Burn Eden: 1 Crow
lost to Burn Eden Alts: 1 Crow 1 Hauler(empty)
i guess this means i must go back to Jita and mine veldspar =*(
oh well, ill live, thanks for some cheap thrills burn eden =) especially our FC...who wasnt that great( and will remain nameless ) "THANKS BURN EDEN SPYS! THANKS FOR GIVING AWAY OUR FLEET!" great times on Team Speak =D
Oh come on now you seem to forget the elite hauler being flown by an alt of yours that dropped about 800mil worth of mins.
And before you start saying it was not yours, I have records of your comments in local about mining the mins with your 8 alts, not to mention the name of the indy.
So please spare me the old we didn't kill anything of value of yours.
PS. Thanks for the min delivery, every little bit helps.
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Raketefrau
Caldari Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.08 01:21:00 -
[98]
Edited by: Raketefrau on 08/05/2008 01:23:54 <yawn>
Huh? BE was where? Huh.
<yaaawn>
EDIT:
Originally by: SATAN
PS. Thanks for the min delivery, every little bit helps.
Wow, you guys had a cloaked hauler ready too? Damn, you'll put a cloak on anything.
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SATAN
BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2008.05.08 01:25:00 -
[99]
Originally by: Raketefrau Edited by: Raketefrau on 08/05/2008 01:23:54 <yawn>
Huh? BE was where? Huh.
<yaaawn>
EDIT:
Originally by: SATAN
PS. Thanks for the min delivery, every little bit helps.
Wow, you guys had a cloaked hauler ready too? Damn, you'll put a cloak on anything.
Who goes mining without a hauler?
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Jogyn
Spartan Industries Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2008.05.08 01:26:00 -
[100]
As always, nice stats BE, and as always, nice smacking/whining smashkill + friends ;) |
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TroNaaR
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.08 01:53:00 -
[101]
Edited by: TroNaaR on 08/05/2008 01:54:01 o/ what up, gj BE, keep on doing your thing
Edit: Free Dastommy79 in '08
Matt Possum Etc...
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Helganstandt
Finis Lumen Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.08 02:00:00 -
[102]
Originally by: Trask Kilraen Burn Eden was in Geminate?
That's exactly what I was thinking. I'm kinda disappointed now, these things blow by so fast
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Albert Goldstine
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2008.05.08 02:06:00 -
[103]
Originally by: Shin Ra
Originally by: Peoke finest pvpers. so those 200+ man fleets and dreads in drones, means our finest pvpers are dealing with you. Really stop blowing the smoke your camping did so little i didnt even bother to fight you.
Didn't bother, or couldn't!
Talk about blowing smoke. You can type, albeit with bad punctuation. However, you have never been a PVPer, let alone a fine one.
... You know, i've always sort of respected you Shin mainly by reputation, but knowing Poeke, i'll have to say, I never took you for a BS spewer.
Peoke is a fine PVPer, those who fought with him know him best. And unlike you he was on the line, not camping a gate with a cloaked raven. Which i have to admit was indeed effective, but considering that there were bigger fish to fry, please, tone it down. Forum smack and chest beating doesn't become you.
This thread disapoints.
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B0rn2KiLL
DEATHFUNK R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.08 02:08:00 -
[104]
Edited by: B0rn2KiLL on 08/05/2008 02:08:28
Originally by: Shin Ra
Originally by: Peoke finest pvpers. so those 200+ man fleets and dreads in drones, means our finest pvpers are dealing with you. Really stop blowing the smoke your camping did so little i didnt even bother to fight you.
Didn't bother, or couldn't!
Talk about blowing smoke. You can type, albeit with bad punctuation. However, you have never been a PVPer, let alone a fine one.
... You know, i've always sort of respected you Shin mainly by reputation, but knowing Poeke, i'll have to say, I never took you for a BS spewer.
Peoke is a fine PVPer, those who fought with him know him best. And unlike you he was on the line, not camping a gate with a cloaked raven. Which i have to admit was indeed effective, but considering that there were bigger fish to fry, please, tone it down. Forum smack and chest beating doesn't become you.
This thread disapoints. ---
Originally by: Oveur It's important to understand that EVE is a "PvP" focused game
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Porgy
Foundation R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.08 02:26:00 -
[105]
Originally by: Martin VanBuren
^^ Those out there fighting the real *loses 50 capitals* fight in the drone regions ^^
those out there fighting **looks for goonswarm** _______________________
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USN CVN72
Caldari Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.08 02:39:00 -
[106]
Oh i forgot
Ding Ding USN Arriving.
I luv Shin Ra and BE
Ding Ding USN Departing.
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Tomas Ysidro
Caldari The Illuminati. Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2008.05.08 02:47:00 -
[107]
This thread has a severe lack of TZeer :( --------------------------------------------
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Raznarok
Invicta.
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Posted - 2008.05.08 02:56:00 -
[108]
Nice job, BE |
Evil Pookie
BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2008.05.08 03:03:00 -
[109]
Since tzeer's popularity has started to surpass my own, I have removed his poasting rights.
Shin Ra: You see, THIS is why we can't have nice things!
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INZi
coracao ardente Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2008.05.08 03:03:00 -
[110]
shin ra's sexy! BE hits a nerve, and they hit it good _
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D'ceet
Shadows of the Dead R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.08 03:16:00 -
[111]
Originally by: SATAN
Originally by: D'ceet oh noes! teh BE alts got me!!1!
lost ships to Burn Eden: 1 Crow
lost to Burn Eden Alts: 1 Crow 1 Hauler(empty)
i guess this means i must go back to Jita and mine veldspar =*(
oh well, ill live, thanks for some cheap thrills burn eden =) especially our FC...who wasnt that great( and will remain nameless ) "THANKS BURN EDEN SPYS! THANKS FOR GIVING AWAY OUR FLEET!" great times on Team Speak =D
Oh come on now you seem to forget the elite hauler being flown by an alt of yours that dropped about 800mil worth of mins.
And before you start saying it was not yours, I have records of your comments in local about mining the mins with your 8 alts, not to mention the name of the indy.
So please spare me the old we didn't kill anything of value of yours.
PS. Thanks for the min delivery, every little bit helps.
oh noes! you caught me.../emote looks at EVE bill of 14.99
oh wait... nevermind..
and i wish to see these records. bring it. Official D'ceet CSM Page.
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Rechal
Active Measures
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Posted - 2008.05.08 03:18:00 -
[112]
Another LOL-full BE thread so soon... kewl!
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Crackzilla
The Shadow Order SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.08 03:25:00 -
[113]
Originally by: Angor And to smashkill, i dont know where all the bitterness comes from. Its not like we sit there and ONLY engage ppl who dont check intel and travel on their own (although carebear zidrine drops are always nice).
I wouldn't say its bitterness as much as an attempt to address the propaganda in this thread. Read the last thread from some corp/alliance that camped bwf and was all impressed by the stats. The same thing happened. We gave the same response. They thumped their chest. We can't remember their name a week later.
Originally by: Angor ...every member of the Burn Eden "team" is an important member of the gang, loosing ships isnt really acceptable even if we kill 50 of your guys in the process - its still classed as an unacceptable loss as we're then an "important" man down.
Thats the thing. Ships aren't important. The will to fight and risk is. I'd rather fight with someone that fights with no fear than someone who frets over fittings and losses. I'd rather have someone participate regardless of experience, isk, or skillpoints.
If you wish to have an elitist attitude, fine. I'm not saying its better or worse. Just don't hold us to your standards and we won't hold you to ours.
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Graalum
Foundation R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.08 03:26:00 -
[114]
Originally by: Jogyn As always, nice stats BE, and as always, nice smacking/whining smashkill + friends ;)
that is one of our specialties
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Graalum
Foundation R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.08 03:27:00 -
[115]
Originally by: INZi shin ra's sexy! BE hits a nerve, and they hit it good
every bwf thread is like this tbh, although be did post an exceptionally nice k/d ratio.
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ferretedious
The Older Gamers R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.08 03:47:00 -
[116]
Yeha, see you next school holidays...
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Wesley Baird
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.05.08 04:13:00 -
[117]
Originally by: *****zilla
I wouldn't say its bitterness as much as an attempt to address the propaganda in this thread. Read the last thread from some corp/alliance that camped bwf and was all impressed by the stats. The same thing happened. We gave the same response. They thumped their chest. We can't remember their name a week later.
*****z my dear friend, thats not entirely true, there is the odd corp that seemed to get more interest out of the boyz in Smashkill than others.
So not all BWF camping corps are created equal.
BE are good at what they do, shame I didnt get a chance to work closer with them when we shared some time together in Hydra space while part of MDK.
The amount of naysayers in this thread about how your alliances didn't care about them, shows that regardless of having no long term impact, that while they were there, they annoyed the living snot out of you.
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Angor
BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2008.05.08 04:13:00 -
[118]
Originally by: *****zilla
Originally by: Angor ...every member of the Burn Eden "team" is an important member of the gang, loosing ships isnt really acceptable even if we kill 50 of your guys in the process - its still classed as an unacceptable loss as we're then an "important" man down.
Thats the thing. Ships aren't important. The will to fight and risk is. I'd rather fight with someone that fights with no fear than someone who frets over fittings and losses. I'd rather have someone participate regardless of experience, isk, or skillpoints.
If you wish to have an elitist attitude, fine. I'm not saying its better or worse. Just don't hold us to your standards and we won't hold you to ours.
Your right, but its not like that really... the ships themselves arent as important as the people flying them (unless expensive fitted) but without the ship the pod is useless. You cant maintain a extended contract in deep in hostile terratory and loose ships only to have to fly 30 odd fekin jumps to get another ship and get back into the fight. Its ok for you guys, we blow u up and you can come back 5 mins later in a new ship. _______________________________ [ 2007.06.07 21:07:22 ] FrankyWave > ransom me guys I am joining XElas !!! |
InSession
Minmatar Mafia
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Posted - 2008.05.08 04:22:00 -
[119]
BE's presence prevented my gangs from going home the short way Nice stats regardless, playing with SMASHKILL is always fun
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Crackzilla
The Shadow Order SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.08 04:33:00 -
[120]
Originally by: Wesley Baird The amount of naysayers in this thread about how your alliances didn't care about them, shows that regardless of having no long term impact, that while they were there, they annoyed the living snot out of you.
A cloaked frig in a system annoys us. Yes, some of those that have no clue how to deal with a gate camp may have been annoyed. For many it always is a spot to have some fun.
Most of the posts in this thread are countering the nonsense (admittedly on both sides).
Originally by: Angor the ships themselves arent as important as the people flying them (unless expensive fitted) but without the ship the pod is useless. You cant maintain a extended contract in deep in hostile terratory and loose ships only to have to fly 30 odd fekin jumps to get another ship and get back into the fight.
Logistics are a problem. There are ways to solve this. A small pos in a random system without sov set and a few carrier jumps to supply it.
The blackops ship with recons/stealth bombers were designed expressly for the issues you describe.
Most of the time was spent in bwf which is 2 system from empire and like a dozen from Jita.
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Hohne
Antares Fleet Yards SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.08 04:53:00 -
[121]
Originally by: *****zilla Logistics are a problem. There are ways to solve this. A small pos in a random system without sov set and a few carrier jumps to supply it.
There is one issue that is almost universal amoung corps that post like this, they would never ever place a POS or anything that can't cloak / log when confronted. Anything they risk they lose, so they take as few risks as possible. Our guys risk obviously heaps because they lose a tiny percentage of it. If they were losing something significant they'd stop risking it.
On the other hand, this visit coincided with a SATAN whinge on jump bridges, so I know who hit who's nerve ;) Quite clearly you both prove that Jump Bridges are not overpowered, but whinge that they are at the same time, so quite clearly someone was annoyed. They can be worked around and you did, they can even be confronted directly which you didn't do, but many others have, but then you won't be happy until you can take down 5 titans in 3 ravens and a dictor. Which is going to result in alot of unhappy time for you ;)
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Kraken Kill
Foundation R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.08 05:02:00 -
[122]
Smashkill is not exclusive, Elite or demanding like other alliances. Most of those who died during this camping stuff were just guys who wanted to get to places, who didnt check intel first who just wanted to play the game. The BE that attacked played 23 hours a day near enough, camped 1 system at a time had implants in the hyenas and faction mods and polys etc.
We play to have fun and not take these internetz as so much seriouz buziness. Mainly Smashkill has been otherwise engaged in dronelands, so as new people got new ships, they wanted to get in quick through bwf and later on the other chokehold nearer to dronelands, so it was intercepting lone pilots or two at a time in fleet fitted ships. A few attempts were made to attack your ships, these were mostly made by lesser experianced FCs, mostly because the more experianced ones were elsewhere- dronelands.
While saying smashkill, its also much more than just smashkill. Its a wider ranging set of Blue alliances who live around these areas, many just come for the big scale pew pew we have nowadays, not for trying to bait cloakers which go 14km, falcons, sabres, hyenas, maledictions and damp ravens. To counter that gang takes specific shiptypes, and the kind of folks who can fly those ships well guess where they were. So really you just killed a lot of lesser experianced players, and a few more experianced, including me, my bad judgement but hey I tried, got a few of your ships later. But You didn't shut us down, you insted Trimmed a lot of Fat. Thus this was good. Can i lol or haha or are my nerves all touched upon? halp no way out!
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Darineah Charach
Minmatar Antares Fleet Yards SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.08 05:10:00 -
[123]
The KB stats look good, but i personally moved through BWF at will and the simple reason for that is that i'm not an idiot.
I think the most surprising thing about all this is that you're disappointed about the quality of the people in BWF. I wasn't aware that was a secret tbh.
I agree that you do what you do exceptionally well, however what you do isn't worth bragging about.
Back in high school i seriously hated the guys who picked on the weaker and stupider people, and really that's all you guys do. You pick targets you know won't be able to fight back, and then brag about how tough you are. When the tough guys come back from their business elsewhere you either run or get pounded into the dirt.
There's always going to be people in SMASHKILL/FVCKAS/SMACKFIX (whatever we're being called these days) who will fall prey to their own stupidity, but i fail to see how taking advantage of them makes you 'uber'.
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Auraurious
Soliders Of Eve
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Posted - 2008.05.08 05:53:00 -
[124]
Dear god. He said you failed too impress. That you don't care is not an excuse for that. Seriously w8 a sec you had a large cap fight?... That makes you great pvpers doesn't it.
Perfection.
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128th ABC123
Eve Liberation Force Sylph Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.08 06:23:00 -
[125]
Originally by: HellsRazor Edited by: HellsRazor on 07/05/2008 22:33:12 First, they came to GEM. because they lost to the Roadkill team during Fanfest Tourny.
Second, maybe we go to your space next o wait... you have none.
Third, YAY for me 5 kills and 0 losses.
Forth, im sure all of EVE will remember you for this campaign.
where's ETS4ME? he the only guy i remember being cool in BE.
win
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Angor
BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2008.05.08 06:30:00 -
[126]
Originally by: *****zilla
Originally by: Angor the ships themselves arent as important as the people flying them (unless expensive fitted) but without the ship the pod is useless. You cant maintain a extended contract in deep in hostile terratory and loose ships only to have to fly 30 odd fekin jumps to get another ship and get back into the fight.
Logistics are a problem. There are ways to solve this. A small pos in a random system without sov set and a few carrier jumps to supply it.
The blackops ship with recons/stealth bombers were designed expressly for the issues you describe.
Most of the time was spent in bwf which is 2 system from empire and like a dozen from Jita.
I'm talking about when we were near the drone area of Q-T, lots of jumps to a new ship.
I think we got more kills around Q-T tbh, not sure tho.
We'd never put up a pos nor would you let us base from it for our ops, instant we put up a small pos you'd blob it and put it into reinforced so its just wasting money.
And although we arent picky about our targets, ganking innocent badgers jumping into 0.0 systems without scouts or escorts, we did get many good fights like this one:
http://smack.griefwatch.net/?p=engagement&kill=17507 or http://smack.griefwatch.net/?p=engagement&kill=17393
As for jump bridges, they are overpowerd and make your alliance have much less risk (and us less loot) but thats fine cos the more safe you feel in your jump bridge network the more silly kills we would get from people who would just sit at the jump bridge for hours, feeling protected by the pos, not ever imagining 2-3 guys killing them there. We even nearly killed a freighter at one of your jump bridges POS's in Q-T with 2 Ravens and a Mega for dps but Che Che's Wyvern turned up to rescue it half way thru structure ;(.
I think we'll have to make a soundboard with your TS recordings because claiming your FC's are busy doing other things when we have TS recordings of one of ur members leaving channel then coming back and saying "None of the experienced FC's are willing to lead a fleet against these guys... they are saying just ignore them". The recordings of the suicidal stealth bomber pilot we killed like 3 times in a row was hillerious. We even have recordings of the FIX FC that took control of your fleet in BWF for a moral boosting op to N-RAEL only to loose more ships along the way (to ATF i believe) before he had to go, a least he was enthuziastic about wanting to try kill us, at least at first :) _______________________________ [ 2007.06.07 21:07:22 ] FrankyWave > ransom me guys I am joining XElas !!! |
Crotador
Minmatar The Older Gamers R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.08 06:37:00 -
[127]
BE,
Your not the first to do this! Your not the last to do this! and Your nowhere near the best at this!
Tri were probably the best we saw at this.
Maybe if our pvpers were not on other business then you would not have even got into bwf... This is my forum sig. There are many like it, but this one is mine.
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Yuki Li
Caldari Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.05.08 06:49:00 -
[128]
An emo *****ing war, awesome.
Even if they didn't cripple you in any way, they did kill 535 of you plus pods, so you can't really come on here talking smack. Take it like champs and get over it guys, BE have a huge ego, no need to take it personally. Anyway, they were in your space, its upto you to get rid of them, not up to them to provide you with fair fights.
Website Recruiting
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Colje
Priory Of The Lemon R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.08 07:05:00 -
[129]
So I just went through your KB (minus 2 weeks), those numbers you reported is just pure LIES.
Go ahead ppl, check it yourself. Sure you got loads of cheap kills...but 45 bil vs 1.6 bil? just lol .
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The Racketeer
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Posted - 2008.05.08 07:08:00 -
[130]
Edited by: The Racketeer on 08/05/2008 07:12:40 think bruce is improperly named. we have a nickname for them over in my parts. to better fit there actions and tactics they should be named...
brutally cloaked empire!
if smash was smart they would bring the fight to bruce where they would be forced to fight (ie bruce space). I wouldn't be surprised to watch them fold like frege did.
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ZaKma
Seraphin Technologies Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2008.05.08 07:15:00 -
[131]
Originally by: Shin Ra
Battleship 70 / 8
Sounds like 30 minutes of a fleet fight in the south.
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Needa3
Minmatar Templars of Space Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.05.08 07:29:00 -
[132]
nice job BE/ TI
quality over quantity as usual
lotsa respect for your pvp, it continues to deliver
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Evil Pookie
BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2008.05.08 07:30:00 -
[133]
Originally by: Colje So I just went through your KB (minus 2 weeks), those numbers you reported is just pure LIES.
Go ahead ppl, check it yourself. Sure you got loads of cheap kills...but 45 bil vs 1.6 bil? just lol .
What do you base this on? did you have your tea-leaves read?
Sounds like someone is a closet psychic and readind/sniffing his own skidmarks
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Angor
BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2008.05.08 07:39:00 -
[134]
Originally by: Colje So I just went through your KB (minus 2 weeks), those numbers you reported is just pure LIES.
Go ahead ppl, check it yourself. Sure you got loads of cheap kills...but 45 bil vs 1.6 bil? just lol .
ITS ALL LIES _______________________________ [ 2007.06.07 21:07:22 ] FrankyWave > ransom me guys I am joining XElas !!! |
Crackzilla
The Shadow Order SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.08 07:57:00 -
[135]
Originally by: Yuki Li Take it like champs and get over it guys, BE have a huge ego, no need to take it personally.
Its not personal. Mostly the annoyance with having to explain this whenever someone decides to camp bwf/etc. I think we should get a form we can copy and paste and tick off the response.
Originally by: Yuki Li
Anyway, they were in your space, its upto you to get rid of them, not up to them to provide you with fair fights.
They're not a risk to anything. They don't threaten anything. And no one is interesting in being logged on like BE is for 23/7. BE has well known tactics which mean the counter tactics are well known.
In cases like this its not economical to "remove" them by devoting resource to camp the gates. The best is simply to deny BE kills. This has worked well before when BE has tried to camp gates in warzones. They can't get ganks, get bored, and move on.
If carebears are going to jump like lemmings into a 23/7 gate camp then props to whoever wants to camp that gate. No one has any interest in helping those that can't pay attention to the intel channel or follow basic 0.0 procedures.
The general response is: "let them die".
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lecrotta
lecrotta Corp
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Posted - 2008.05.08 07:57:00 -
[136]
Originally by: ZaKma
Originally by: Shin Ra
Battleship 70 / 8
Sounds like 30 minutes of a fleet fight in the south.
The 30 mins it took to load the grid, the 30 mins it took to activate your modules or the 30 mins it took for you to be told you had been popped?.
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NickSuccorso
Arcana Imperii Ltd. Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.08 07:59:00 -
[137]
I like being angry at people's gimmick to!
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Kerdrak
3B Legio IX Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.08 08:01:00 -
[138]
Originally by: Shin Ra Edited by: Shin Ra on 07/05/2008 22:07:07 I was exceptionally disappointed when BRUCE failed to even remotely impress. 2 weeks in Geminate fighting Smash, Roadkill and Atlas has taken my disappointment to new heights. The pure idiocy of these three alliances leaves BRUCE looking like PVP gods. Never has there been a more prominent case of over recruitment and general FAIL. Guys, you are terrible - sort it out.
BURN EDEN's reign of terror in Geminate has come to an end. At the end is well over 45 billion isk in damages, countless embarrassed FCs and a quick tempered leadership that completely failed in every respect. But I digress - our stats (inc dictor alts):
763 kills / 23 losses 45,893,222,516 ISK / 1,635,778,326 ISK
Kills / Losses by class Assault Ship 15 / 0 Battlecruiser 57 / 0 Battleship 70 / 8 Capsule 228 / 3 Combat Recon Ship 8 / 0 Command Ship 7 / 0 Covert Ops 11 / 0 Cruiser 50 / 0 Destroyer 5 / 0 Electronic Attack Ship 9 / 5 Exhumer 2 / 0 Force Recon Ship 35 / 1 Frigate 21 / 0 Heavy Assault Ship 45 / 0 Heavy Interdictor 7 / 0 Industrial 50 / 0 Interceptor 72 / 1 Interdictor 14 / 8 Logistics 4 / 0 Mining Barge 1 / 0 Rookie ship 17 / 0 Shuttle 8 / 0 Stealth Bomber 15 / 0 Transport Ship 12 / 0
We had a fair few new members who boosted our losses nicely. But interestingly, a large proportion of our lost ships came as a result of non-Smashkill alliances.
There are some very very bad fleet commanders out there, but Roadkill seem to have acquired more than their fair share of these. Still 11/10 for effort, 0/10 for delivery.
Nice, stats but you tactics are only and exclusively: - Cloaking ships. - Outnumbering lonely preys.
You don't risk a ****, so please, stop the chest beating. Make a fleet and fight in 1:1 odds, you will be surprised on how you suck at PvP. ________________________________________
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lecrotta
lecrotta Corp
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Posted - 2008.05.08 08:12:00 -
[139]
Edited by: lecrotta on 08/05/2008 08:15:30
Originally by: Kerdrak
Nice, stats but you tactics are only and exclusively: - Cloaking ships. - Outnumbering lonely preys.
You don't risk a ****, so please, stop the chest beating. Make a fleet and fight in 1:1 odds, you will be surprised on how you suck at PvP.
STFU nub I flew with BE for a long time and they fight all comers unless ridiculously outnumbered although its true we never passed up any solo kills either tbh, but then who does???.
http://smack.griefwatch.net/?p=engagement&kill=17507 = 8 BE vs 18....
http://smack.griefwatch.net/?p=engagement&kill=17393 = 4 BE vs 11.....
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Naridos
Caldari IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.05.08 08:23:00 -
[140]
I have to give props to BE. Fought them a few times and must say that this is just funny to see
Quote: You Know you play too much Eve when you get into a car crash and you run away as fast as you can so that you don't get podded.
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EvilFlyingMonkey
Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.08 08:23:00 -
[141]
I really don't understand how you build your conclusions. they may have annoyed all the people who died to them (thats a very small amount of our total population), but ask yourself, how often do you care about a loss for, an hour, maybe a day? - probably depends on value. I can honestly say for every time i logged on to ts over the past couple weeks i have never heard someone mention BE.
BE do a good job, but what are we supposed to do, kick every member that died. Make sure that every member we have is an 'elite' pvp'er. As soon as we see someone who is not, kick them. No thankyou, RK and co are not that type of alliance, and i guess if you do not like it, you will have to come and kick us all out of the game, you will get a good k/d ratio doing it no doubt :).
Once again, BE, thankyou for coming and killing a selection of the more stupid people. and further more, congrats for the more interesting fights, whether you won or not.
Originally by: Wesley Baird
The amount of naysayers in this thread about how your alliances didn't care about them, shows that regardless of having no long term impact, that while they were there, they annoyed the living snot out of you.
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Kerdrak
3B Legio IX Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.08 08:39:00 -
[142]
Originally by: lecrotta Edited by: lecrotta on 08/05/2008 08:15:30
Originally by: Kerdrak
Nice, stats but you tactics are only and exclusively: - Cloaking ships. - Outnumbering lonely preys.
You don't risk a ****, so please, stop the chest beating. Make a fleet and fight in 1:1 odds, you will be surprised on how you suck at PvP.
STFU nub I flew with BE for a long time and they fight all comers unless ridiculously outnumbered although its true we never passed up any solo kills either tbh, but then who does???.
http://smack.griefwatch.net/?p=engagement&kill=17507 = 8 BE vs 18....
http://smack.griefwatch.net/?p=engagement&kill=17393 = 4 BE vs 11.....
Learn to read killboards tard. And please, feel free to call me noob with your scared main
Those links only show they killed several lonely targets in a period of 3 hours, so they appear in the "same engagement". ________________________________________
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lecrotta
lecrotta Corp
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Posted - 2008.05.08 08:59:00 -
[143]
Edited by: lecrotta on 08/05/2008 09:03:11
Originally by: Kerdrak
Learn to read killboards tard. And please, feel free to call me noob with your scared main
Those links only show they killed several lonely targets in a period of 3 hours, so they appear in the "same engagement".
HEHEEEE look whos the tard
Your the one who should learn to read KB's.
4 vs 11 engagement time
Saturday 26th Apr 2008 05:44 - 06:18
(averaging less than 3 mins per kill (not bad for a single raven damage dealer)
8 vs 18 engagement time
Monday 28th Apr 2008 05:57 - 07:10
Over 3 mins per kill but i suppose they had to avoid the high dps of fighting so many ships at once so it figures.
Neither of these engagements or even both added together take 3 hours do they tard??..i suggest you think or read before you troll in future muppet. Oh and a clownish troll like you is not worthy of knowing who my main is your way much or a noobtard.
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HellsRazor
Caldari Priory Of The Lemon R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.08 09:02:00 -
[144]
Originally by: Angor
Originally by: Colje So I just went through your KB (minus 2 weeks), those numbers you reported is just pure LIES.
Go ahead ppl, check it yourself. Sure you got loads of cheap kills...but 45 bil vs 1.6 bil? just lol .
ITS ALL LIES
I think (not positive) he is referring to the kills being recorded as roadkill or smash.. infact certain entities that are hostile to smashkill on your campaign stats. I am assuming as you claim your contract was VS smash and roadkill at the most allies. BUT you have kills that are hostile to us to boost your uberness... so to equal it out we should count all kills in GEM. that are hostile to us we killed against your stats..... just guessing.
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malekai
VersaTech Interstellar Ltd. SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.08 09:06:00 -
[145]
Didnt kill me or any of my alts .... i must not be leet .
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Kerdrak
3B Legio IX Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.08 09:13:00 -
[146]
Originally by: lecrotta mental diarrhoea
Funny how trolls only read what they want to read. But seriously, keep cloaked behind your trolling alt, nobody will know how you suck ingame ________________________________________
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SSgt Sniper
Gallente MAIDS
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Posted - 2008.05.08 09:13:00 -
[147]
Originally by: Bobby Atlas
Originally by: Shin Ra
Originally by: Peoke finest pvpers. so those 200+ man fleets and dreads in drones, means our finest pvpers are dealing with you. Really stop blowing the smoke your camping did so little i didnt even bother to fight you.
Didn't bother, or couldn't!
Talk about blowing smoke. You can type, albeit with bad punctuation. However, you have never been a PVPer, let alone a fine one.
Your camps although effective in nailing random and unaware individuals really proved ineffectual on a larger scale do simply to your numbers and tactics. When it was needed and warranted we would bust through you guys with little effort, such as to move freighters or similar. In other circumstances it was just the usual day to day life in geminate and bwf area - you think this is an exceptional situation that warrants an exceptional post but what you fail to realize is that is just everyday life in BWF area - cya BE.
Bobby, save yourself the trouble. Burn Eden wants ganks, not pvp, and always cloaks at the first sign of an actual fight, yet continues to consider themselves some sort of pvp god. Meh.
------- CEO of Maids. No I didn't pick the name. I've grown rather fond of it though.
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Naecuss
Minmatar 7th Space Cavalry R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.08 09:14:00 -
[148]
I am one of those in unexperienced pvp pilots that have joined Smashkill I have lost at least 2 x Rigged Ravens due to carelessness BWF/BND/100, 2 x Rifters for gang tackling (it happens) and a blackbird due to intel a bit late on bwf/oji and by the time I jumped in to get to gate it was to late.
But most of all I enjoyed every second of it. I have got replacement ships (Bs and Bc) with help from my corp and corp mates and I will lose a few more but will gain pvp experience and I am like others may seem like the "Fat" but we will get leaner and meaner due to it.
I love the local harassment around bwf/oji/100 keeps me on my toes and with plenty of pvp skirmishes to boot.
I will not always be a "unexperienced pvp pilot" so I look forward to pay back tenth fold so "Who that laughs last, laughs the loudest", oops I got to go it's time to start my inceptor skill.
If you find any bad punctuation keep em.... don't care, see you Peoke on the front line with another fleet fitted Bs bwf has fulfilled it's purpose.
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lecrotta
lecrotta Corp
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Posted - 2008.05.08 09:15:00 -
[149]
Originally by: Kerdrak
Originally by: lecrotta mental diarrhoea
Funny how trolls only read what they want to read. But seriously, keep cloaked behind your trolling alt, nobody will know how you suck ingame
Proof or stfu.
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Lemptie
Gallente Glass House
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Posted - 2008.05.08 09:26:00 -
[150]
Always nice to see that afk and cloakes on ships ,are still the I-WINN tactics in eve.Thanks CCP.Can we now go for totall AFK and have a program that you uncloak when a red is in range so we can play for 24/7 WOW?
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Angor
BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2008.05.08 09:27:00 -
[151]
Originally by: SSgt Sniper
Originally by: Bobby Atlas
Originally by: Shin Ra
Originally by: Peoke finest pvpers. so those 200+ man fleets and dreads in drones, means our finest pvpers are dealing with you. Really stop blowing the smoke your camping did so little i didnt even bother to fight you.
Didn't bother, or couldn't!
Talk about blowing smoke. You can type, albeit with bad punctuation. However, you have never been a PVPer, let alone a fine one.
Your camps although effective in nailing random and unaware individuals really proved ineffectual on a larger scale do simply to your numbers and tactics. When it was needed and warranted we would bust through you guys with little effort, such as to move freighters or similar. In other circumstances it was just the usual day to day life in geminate and bwf area - you think this is an exceptional situation that warrants an exceptional post but what you fail to realize is that is just everyday life in BWF area - cya BE.
Bobby, save yourself the trouble. Burn Eden wants ganks, not pvp, and always cloaks at the first sign of an actual fight, yet continues to consider themselves some sort of pvp god. Meh.
Thats amazing coming from you considering you were in TI and saw us fight on many occasions.
You guys know the truth, why do you continue with this properganda thing claiming we dont even fight 1:1 odds.. My god i'd be amazed if ANY hostile gang brought 1:1 odds but nobody travels in small 5-10 man gangs anymore these days. Apart from the ganks of solo travelers, when ppl have actually decided to kill us and formed a gang, they've ALWAYS brought excessive numbers putting us at a miniumum 3:1 odds. _______________________________ [ 2007.06.07 21:07:22 ] FrankyWave > ransom me guys I am joining XElas !!! |
Rhatar Khurin
Minmatar Sten Industries
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Posted - 2008.05.08 09:36:00 -
[152]
Originally by: Ruyiwei watch this also old movie and get over it ;)
B_E_Movie
BWAHAHAHA! That genious! _ EVE RELATED CONTENT |
SSgt Sniper
Gallente MAIDS
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Posted - 2008.05.08 09:43:00 -
[153]
Originally by: Angor
Originally by: SSgt Sniper
Originally by: Bobby Atlas
Originally by: Shin Ra
Originally by: Peoke finest pvpers. so those 200+ man fleets and dreads in drones, means our finest pvpers are dealing with you. Really stop blowing the smoke your camping did so little i didnt even bother to fight you.
Didn't bother, or couldn't!
Talk about blowing smoke. You can type, albeit with bad punctuation. However, you have never been a PVPer, let alone a fine one.
Your camps although effective in nailing random and unaware individuals really proved ineffectual on a larger scale do simply to your numbers and tactics. When it was needed and warranted we would bust through you guys with little effort, such as to move freighters or similar. In other circumstances it was just the usual day to day life in geminate and bwf area - you think this is an exceptional situation that warrants an exceptional post but what you fail to realize is that is just everyday life in BWF area - cya BE.
Bobby, save yourself the trouble. Burn Eden wants ganks, not pvp, and always cloaks at the first sign of an actual fight, yet continues to consider themselves some sort of pvp god. Meh.
Thats amazing coming from you considering you were in TI and saw us fight on many occasions.
You guys know the truth, why do you continue with this properganda thing claiming we dont even fight 1:1 odds.. My god i'd be amazed if ANY hostile gang brought 1:1 odds but nobody travels in small 5-10 man gangs anymore these days. Apart from the ganks of solo travelers, when ppl have actually decided to kill us and formed a gang, they've ALWAYS brought excessive numbers putting us at a miniumum 3:1 odds.
Why don't you go lose a carrier over it. ------- CEO of Maids. No I didn't pick the name. I've grown rather fond of it though.
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lecrotta
lecrotta Corp
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Posted - 2008.05.08 09:47:00 -
[154]
Originally by: Lemptie
Always nice to see that afk and cloakes on ships ,are still the I-WINN tactics in eve.Thanks CCP.Can we now go for totall AFK and have a program that you uncloak when a red is in range so we can play for 24/7 WOW?
Id like to argue with you but i have no idea wtf you are talking about. I can see those are English words but if you want ppl to understand wtf you are talking about you will need to put them together in a coherent order.
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Angor
BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2008.05.08 09:53:00 -
[155]
Originally by: SSgt Sniper Why don't you go lose a carrier over it.
Oh good burn, i iz crippled..... and for the record that kill was pure bull. I petitioned it and here the highlight of the reply i got:
"Please note that even receiving the docking message does not make sure you can dock safely. That because your ship might be squeezed by other ships from the star gate or something else might happen to prevent you from docking. We wish you best of luck in the future as well as speedy recovery." lol wtf. _______________________________ [ 2007.06.07 21:07:22 ] FrankyWave > ransom me guys I am joining XElas !!! |
Lord Zoran
House of Tempers
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Posted - 2008.05.08 10:42:00 -
[156]
nice stats but i don't think there was any reason to post them.
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Nizomi
Caldari Technopolis Ventures
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Posted - 2008.05.08 10:55:00 -
[157]
Originally by: Lemptie
Always nice to see that afk and cloakes on ships ,are still the I-WINN tactics in eve.Thanks CCP.Can we now go for totall AFK and have a program that you uncloak when a red is in range so we can play for 24/7 WOW?
Fortunately CCP have stated on numerous occassions that they are going to address cloaking on non dedicated ships (make them probable or something similar). Just wai chinese ISK farmers ;)
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HellsRazor
Caldari Priory Of The Lemon R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.08 11:08:00 -
[158]
IM UBER I have 100% kills vs loss to BE. IM Roadkill...YOU FAIL.
you should adapt to me. BUT... you FAIL.
waiting for cookie.
waiting for excuses and tears.
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Lord Fitz
Antares Fleet Yards SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.08 11:33:00 -
[159]
News flash, corp using scouts, cloaks, treats the game as a profession and sits on enemy TS doesn't lose ships often. My god, I think we might be onto something. Someone call the ministry of the obvious and send out a press release.
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Doctor Green
Boris Technica
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Posted - 2008.05.08 11:49:00 -
[160]
Originally by: Shin Ra Edited by: Shin Ra on 07/05/2008 22:07:07 I was exceptionally disappointed when BRUCE failed to even remotely impress. 2 weeks in Geminate fighting Smash, Roadkill and Atlas has taken my disappointment to new heights. The pure idiocy of these three alliances leaves BRUCE looking like PVP gods. Never has there been a more prominent case of over recruitment and general FAIL. Guys, you are terrible - sort it out.
BURN EDEN's reign of terror in Geminate has come to an end. At the end is well over 45 billion isk in damages, countless embarrassed FCs and a quick tempered leadership that completely failed in every respect. But I digress - our stats (inc dictor alts):
763 kills / 23 losses 45,893,222,516 ISK / 1,635,778,326 ISK
Kills / Losses by class Assault Ship 15 / 0 Battlecruiser 57 / 0 Battleship 70 / 8 Capsule 228 / 3 Combat Recon Ship 8 / 0 Command Ship 7 / 0 Covert Ops 11 / 0 Cruiser 50 / 0 Destroyer 5 / 0 Electronic Attack Ship 9 / 5 Exhumer 2 / 0 Force Recon Ship 35 / 1 Frigate 21 / 0 Heavy Assault Ship 45 / 0 Heavy Interdictor 7 / 0 Industrial 50 / 0 Interceptor 72 / 1 Interdictor 14 / 8 Logistics 4 / 0 Mining Barge 1 / 0 Rookie ship 17 / 0 Shuttle 8 / 0 Stealth Bomber 15 / 0 Transport Ship 12 / 0
We had a fair few new members who boosted our losses nicely. But interestingly, a large proportion of our lost ships came as a result of non-Smashkill alliances.
There are some very very bad fleet commanders out there, but Roadkill seem to have acquired more than their fair share of these. Still 11/10 for effort, 0/10 for delivery.
70 bs in 2 weeks looks so cheap tbh
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Angor
BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2008.05.08 11:55:00 -
[161]
Originally by: Lord Fitz News flash, corp using scouts, cloaks, treats the game as a profession and sits on enemy TS doesn't lose ships often. My god, I think we might be onto something. Someone call the ministry of the obvious and send out a press release.
lol the sacasm and bitterness is strong in this one _______________________________ [ 2007.06.07 21:07:22 ] FrankyWave > ransom me guys I am joining XElas !!! |
Needa3
Minmatar Templars of Space Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.05.08 11:59:00 -
[162]
Originally by: *****zilla
BE has well known tactics which mean the counter tactics are well known.
rofl, according to your losses it seems you forgot the countertactics though
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Tyremis
Spartan Industrial Manufacturing SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.08 12:00:00 -
[163]
i say if you actually enjoy sitting cloaked waiting for anything you can out dps its not that different than blobs just minus the lag. In fact its the exact same principle. I died to a 7 vs 1 yesterday but whatever its the game. I was not ****ed cuz i go out in blobs and do the exact same thing. whatever floats your boat. Thx for culling the carebear heard, maybe you actually taught them something about reading intel and not being morons.
Tyremis/Eventus
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Rutoo
Gallente Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.08 12:11:00 -
[164]
It's just me, But shouldn't you killing our hostiles in our space not really count towards your campaign against roadkill smash and atlas?
Doing a quick browse thought your killboards i notice at least 50 that have no standings or are of negative standings towards us.
And please update us the Per-Alliance stats. If we really did fair worse off than BRUCE - please don't compare them with 4+ alliances that make up living in Germinate as one.
_________________________________________________________ My Second EvE Video Club Seals Not Sandwichs
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HellsRazor
Caldari Priory Of The Lemon R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.08 12:21:00 -
[165]
I am sorry this is plain stupid. You sit in a system 23/7 yes 23/7 cloaked chosing when to fight if you want to fight. i want to know logged on hours to kill ratio. You CLAIM to kill our FC's easy? OK WHO how many times? BLOB? OK how many people have you killed 1 V 1>? :)(BLOB) your stats dont even show just roadkill and smash.. it show everything you killed even your own. You have done the same thing for the last 4 years atleast you and your fan boys think we waste our time cloaked 23/7 like YOU . YOU own nothing. :) you think if anyone wanted to waste doing your tactic that actually HOLD space they couldnt? the fact is ... you are what space you hold... NOTHING. JOKE. you own NOTHING. and on the topic your 100% fail because according to your ******** standings i own you all numbers is all that matters. AGAIN ROADKILL KICKED YOUR ASS IN THE FANFEST TOURNEY WHERE IT WAS ABOUT TACTICS NOT ISK BISH.
insert your excuse how you got OWNED.
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Papa Ina
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.05.08 12:24:00 -
[166]
I like Burn Eden, admittedly it's mostly due to the responses they manage to illicit on this here forum but I like them none the less.
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Ohne
Minmatar Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.05.08 12:28:00 -
[167]
Originally by: HellsRazor I am sorry this is plain stupid. You sit in a system 23/7 yes 23/7 cloaked chosing when to fight if you want to fight. i want to know logged on hours to kill ratio. You CLAIM to kill our FC's easy? OK WHO how many times? BLOB? OK how many people have you killed 1 V 1>? :)(BLOB) your stats dont even show just roadkill and smash.. it show everything you killed even your own. You have done the same thing for the last 4 years atleast you and your fan boys think we waste our time cloaked 23/7 like YOU . YOU own nothing. :) you think if anyone wanted to waste doing your tactic that actually HOLD space they couldnt? the fact is ... you are what space you hold... NOTHING. JOKE. you own NOTHING. and on the topic your 100% fail because according to your ******** standings i own you all numbers is all that matters. AGAIN ROADKILL KICKED YOUR ASS IN THE FANFEST TOURNEY WHERE IT WAS ABOUT TACTICS NOT ISK BISH.
insert your excuse how you got OWNED.
This reply is epic.
Keep up the good work BE.
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HellsRazor
Caldari Priory Of The Lemon R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.08 12:30:00 -
[168]
Originally by: Papa Ina I like Burn Eden, admittedly it's mostly due to the responses they manage to illicit on this here forum but I like them none the less.
I like GOONs because of little bee's vid.. and will epicly enjoy the ***** slap soon to happen to them :)
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Papa Ina
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.05.08 12:32:00 -
[169]
Originally by: HellsRazor
Originally by: Papa Ina I like Burn Eden, admittedly it's mostly due to the responses they manage to illicit on this here forum but I like them none the less.
I like GOONs because of little bee's vid.. and will epicly enjoy the ***** slap soon to happen to them :)
I how everybody capitalizes GOONs. There are a lot of things to be happy about in this thread.
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HellsRazor
Caldari Priory Of The Lemon R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.08 12:32:00 -
[170]
Originally by: Ohne
Originally by: HellsRazor I am sorry this is plain stupid. You sit in a system 23/7 yes 23/7 cloaked chosing when to fight if you want to fight. i want to know logged on hours to kill ratio. You CLAIM to kill our FC's easy? OK WHO how many times? BLOB? OK how many people have you killed 1 V 1>? :)(BLOB) your stats dont even show just roadkill and smash.. it show everything you killed even your own. You have done the same thing for the last 4 years atleast you and your fan boys think we waste our time cloaked 23/7 like YOU . YOU own nothing. :) you think if anyone wanted to waste doing your tactic that actually HOLD space they couldnt? the fact is ... you are what space you hold... NOTHING. JOKE. you own NOTHING. and on the topic your 100% fail because according to your ******** standings i own you all numbers is all that matters. AGAIN ROADKILL KICKED YOUR ASS IN THE FANFEST TOURNEY WHERE IT WAS ABOUT TACTICS NOT ISK BISH.
insert your excuse how you got OWNED.
This reply is epic.
Keep up the good work BE.
yet another POD pilot failing to look up or know who is who.
whats PL doing again?
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RuleoftheBone
Minmatar Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.05.08 12:32:00 -
[171]
Go BE!
p.s. Who is next?
"Lead Me..Follow Me..Or get the **** out of my way" General George Patton USA
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HellsRazor
Caldari Priory Of The Lemon R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.08 12:34:00 -
[172]
TAKE OUR SPACE OR STFU!!
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Papa Ina
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.05.08 12:36:00 -
[173]
Originally by: HellsRazor TAKE OUR SPACE OR STFU!!
We didn't want the ability to safely travel around all this space we are claiming anyway?
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HellsRazor
Caldari Priory Of The Lemon R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.08 12:40:00 -
[174]
Originally by: Papa Ina
Originally by: HellsRazor TAKE OUR SPACE OR STFU!!
We didn't want the ability to safely travel around all this space we are claiming anyway?
WAITING.... like every other *****... we will still be here and your on your way out
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Papa Ina
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.05.08 12:42:00 -
[175]
Can you wait a week?
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HellsRazor
Caldari Priory Of The Lemon R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.08 12:43:00 -
[176]
Blah Blah we get it.. even tho Smashkill has held BWF/GEM. longer then ALL alliances in eve combined in GEM. We FAIL.
WE are waiting to be removed.
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HellsRazor
Caldari Priory Of The Lemon R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.08 12:44:00 -
[177]
Originally by: Papa Ina Can you wait a week?
quoted
we have a week guys.. tell you what 2 weeks :)
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Max Teranous
The Illuminati. Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2008.05.08 12:46:00 -
[178]
BE came in handy the other week, they made sure roadkill put a gang on the Oij gate so we could come and kill it. Thanks guys !
Max
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Narciss Sevar
Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.05.08 13:19:00 -
[179]
This thread is awesome. Hey hellrazor whine some more to make this thread 10/10.
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Porgy
Foundation R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.08 13:20:00 -
[180]
Edited by: Porgy on 08/05/2008 13:20:48 this thread should have died already. Somewhere after lecrotta started yelling STFU nub to everybody. Or maybe after the first peoke response. Will mods please lock this BE flamebait. The goons are starting to fester and thats never a good sign. _______________________
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Scagga Laebetrovo
Delictum 23216 San Matari.
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Posted - 2008.05.08 13:32:00 -
[181]
Originally by: HellsRazor AGAIN ROADKILL KICKED YOUR ASS IN THE FANFEST TOURNEY WHERE IT WAS ABOUT TACTICS NOT ISK BISH.
insert your excuse how you got OWNED.
Comon HellsRazor, I was on the Roadkill team for the fanfest tourney and don't think it's fair to use as a defence here.
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Kraken Kill
Foundation R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.08 13:32:00 -
[182]
Too many people in BE going through Puberty or they are really just very angry Youths. This thread shows that, if anything BE are not pleasant to fly with or be around. Starting a Flame bait thread then having members and alts Troll away, its just not a good fight. I expect the exclusiveness of BE to be preserved much because you guys are *******s and you know what Team America thinks of *******s.
Pretty much the rest of Eve thinks the same, you just sent yourselves up in this thread.
Quote: Roadkill and Atlas has taken my disappointment to new heights.
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Bo Bojangles
Spartan Industrial Manufacturing SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.08 13:33:00 -
[183]
I kept hearing these guys were camping on our gates but I never saw them except when I finally decided that they were just all afk or something. So I brought an empty hauler through and lo and behold there they were!!
Grats on your stats BE, but your definition of success and mine differ somewhat. If you're not challenging SOV, then you're not doing anything in my book.
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DNSBLACK
Gallente Dirt Nap Squad
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Posted - 2008.05.08 13:40:00 -
[184]
Edited by: DNSBLACK on 08/05/2008 13:41:06 Nice work Burn Eden, We had the same type of success. Here is the link to our campaign last month. Iam not sure what gate you were working over but the 9P40-F gate in 1S-SU1 was a blast. I recomend anyone who is looking to have fun camp that gate they have to use it to move into the drone regions. Once again my hats off to to Burn Eden proving once again you dont have to own anything but the ship you fly to have fun. Please copy and paste the link below iam not sure i can link it directly.
http://killboard.dirtnapsquad.net/?a=cc_detail&ctr_id=2
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blue strigoy
elite armchair generals
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Posted - 2008.05.08 13:42:00 -
[185]
BE still sucks and is boring. If you want to convince players, who are good in pvp, change your gaming style. Nobody is interested, how many players you gank with your cowoardish cloaking, sniper, nano ***ming. You suck and have no real life. That is the only result, which your stats show. Also your posing here sucks and is boring, too. It is always the same since how many years and since how many threads? Really unbelievable, that you are not bored from yourself like the majority of the community is from you and from your attention whoring and flame baiting. You are certainly not the players, who the community would miss, if you leave forever.
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sexygheyman
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Posted - 2008.05.08 13:57:00 -
[186]
Well at least it was not your own executor who hired Burn Eden to come shoot your members. Freidrick hired BE to come shoot his fellow members to distract from the fact he was stealing all the valuable moons in fountain.
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patchy999
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Posted - 2008.05.08 13:58:00 -
[187]
Edited by: patchy999 on 08/05/2008 14:02:57 ooops alt post
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Juhlo
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Posted - 2008.05.08 14:01:00 -
[188]
BE > Smashkill
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Needa3
Minmatar Templars of Space Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.05.08 14:13:00 -
[189]
Originally by: blue strigoy
BE still sucks and is boring. If you want to convince players, who are good in pvp, change your gaming style. Nobody is interested, how many players you gank with your cowoardish cloaking, sniper, nano ***ming. You suck and have no real life. That is the only result, which your stats show. Also your posing here sucks and is boring, too. It is always the same since how many years and since how many threads? Really unbelievable, that you are not bored from yourself like the majority of the community is from you and from your attention whoring and flame baiting. You are certainly not the players, who the community would miss, if you leave forever.
dude, learn to play yhe game. BE found a style that you can't beat so that makes em boring?
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lecrotta
lecrotta Corp
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Posted - 2008.05.08 14:13:00 -
[190]
Originally by: Bo Bojangles If you're not challenging SOV, then you're not doing anything in my book.
I blob therefore i am?.
Yea you really squeeze every bit of fun and enjoyment there is to have in the game by getting into boring lag fest/frozen screen territorial wars don't ya bud.
What you and others fail to understand is that most of BE including myself while i was with them have done the whole blob lag fest thing and got sick of it a long time ago. I now zip around in a nano gang instead of watching a frozen screen for a few hours a night just so my alliance can put up a few posses and make bazillions of isk that i will never see and that is proly sold by the few at the top.
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Ponderous Thunderstroke
Republic War Machine Industries
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Posted - 2008.05.08 14:14:00 -
[191]
Originally by: TOTALHELLDEATH
Originally by: Peoke oh also hot dropping 2 russian motherships and now having the record for biggest eve cap fight, means you really crippled us. what ever shall we do.
look at me !!! i killed the ibis of a russain player! that's now mean im a uber pvpproeveplayer! yeah
lolz.
sorry Peoke you should realy stop posting on coad, you make smash looking like fools
Too late. -- "PT, you are a complete and total jerk."
Yes. Yes I am.
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lecrotta
lecrotta Corp
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Posted - 2008.05.08 14:22:00 -
[192]
Originally by: HellsRazor I am sorry this is plain stupid. You sit in a system 23/7 yes 23/7 cloaked chosing when to fight if you want to fight. i want to know logged on hours to kill ratio. You CLAIM to kill our FC's easy? OK WHO how many times? BLOB? OK how many people have you killed 1 V 1>? :)(BLOB) your stats dont even show just roadkill and smash.. it show everything you killed even your own. You have done the same thing for the last 4 years atleast you and your fan boys think we waste our time cloaked 23/7 like YOU . YOU own nothing. :) you think if anyone wanted to waste doing your tactic that actually HOLD space they couldnt? the fact is ... you are what space you hold... NOTHING. JOKE. you own NOTHING. and on the topic your 100% fail because according to your ******** standings i own you all numbers is all that matters. AGAIN ROADKILL KICKED YOUR ASS IN THE FANFEST TOURNEY WHERE IT WAS ABOUT TACTICS NOT ISK BISH.
insert your excuse how you got OWNED.
Holy heck look at this clown do you want me to book you some anger management classes buddy???. Are you insane or just bitter that BE owned your entire blobtard alliance for the last few weeks, did you forget to lube up????.
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Thaanvanite
Minmatar ACCORD Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.08 15:06:00 -
[193]
Originally by: lecrotta
Originally by: Bo Bojangles If you're not challenging SOV, then you're not doing anything in my book.
I blob therefore i am?.
Yea you really squeeze every bit of fun and enjoyment there is to have in the game by getting into boring lag fest/frozen screen territorial wars don't ya bud.
What you and others fail to understand is that most of BE including myself while i was with them have done the whole blob lag fest thing and got sick of it a long time ago. I now zip around in a nano gang instead of watching a frozen screen for a few hours a night just so my alliance can put up a few posses and make bazillions of isk that i will never see and that is proly sold by the few at the top.
Ok so you don't play the game with large numbers, fine, but it means you have no idea. I've personally only seen lag once since the brackets change and that was the what 30 vs 50 + support and POS cap fight.
This thread needs to be closed or die. BE and friends will always think they are just the greatest, uber, l33t pvpers and the rest of us will understand how sad they look beating their chests.
Give it up
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Chomapuraku
Caldari Templar Republic R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.08 15:11:00 -
[194]
hmmm... i can choose between two fights....
in one of them, it's 15 jumps away, they bring several hundred, we bring several hundred, and we charge at each other headfirst, smashing the **** out of one another and covering the grid with enough wrecks to crash the server. everyone packs a few ships, loses them, epic cap battles ensue, gangs roam from gate to moon to station to gate, from system to system
in the other one, five guys stay cloaked and pride themselves on ganking carebears, stragglers, noobs, and people that stolidly refuse to use intel.
gee, which fight do i wanna go to?
get over yourself. using an uber hiding setup to gank people and keep them from shooting at you is for counterstrike kiddies (or those guys in the first team fortress that would just sit in the sniper tower and do nothing but one-shot anyone that stepped outside.) some of us have more fun fights to attend to
come back in dreads, carriers, moms, and huge mixed fleets (like TRI did) and then we'll talk
Originally by: Crimson11 Crimson11: What the hell happened?
WarGod: Some breaking occurred, the Alt Key was involved, that's about all we know.
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lecrotta
lecrotta Corp
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Posted - 2008.05.08 15:16:00 -
[195]
Originally by: Thaanvanite
Originally by: lecrotta
Originally by: Bo Bojangles If you're not challenging SOV, then you're not doing anything in my book.
I blob therefore i am?.
Yea you really squeeze every bit of fun and enjoyment there is to have in the game by getting into boring lag fest/frozen screen territorial wars don't ya bud.
What you and others fail to understand is that most of BE including myself while i was with them have done the whole blob lag fest thing and got sick of it a long time ago. I now zip around in a nano gang instead of watching a frozen screen for a few hours a night just so my alliance can put up a few posses and make bazillions of isk that i will never see and that is proly sold by the few at the top.
Ok so you don't play the game with large numbers, fine, but it means you have no idea.
Did you not bother to read all of the post as i clearly state that myself while i was in BE and others who are still in BE have done the whole lag fest crap (i even led and planned some of the largest engagements in eve) and got sick of it. So as far as having no idea is concerned your totally wrong, as i personally got sick of losing ships to gain space others actually profited from and joined BE then left for another high spec pvp corp.
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Angor
BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2008.05.08 15:34:00 -
[196]
Smash/Roadkill honestly, even if this thread is a "chest beating" thread as you call it, with the utterly pathetic and bitter replies i've seen here im not suprised we dont get perminant contracts in your space, u guys probably **** off so many ppl. _______________________________ [ 2007.06.07 21:07:22 ] FrankyWave > ransom me guys I am joining XElas !!! |
Bo Bojangles
Spartan Industrial Manufacturing SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.08 15:38:00 -
[197]
Originally by: lecrotta
Originally by: Bo Bojangles If you're not challenging SOV, then you're not doing anything in my book.
I blob therefore i am?.
Yea you really squeeze every bit of fun and enjoyment there is to have in the game by getting into boring lag fest/frozen screen territorial wars don't ya bud.
What you and others fail to understand is that most of BE including myself while i was with them have done the whole blob lag fest thing and got sick of it a long time ago. I now zip around in a nano gang instead of watching a frozen screen for a few hours a night just so my alliance can put up a few posses and make bazillions of isk that i will never see and that is proly sold by the few at the top.
Don't misinterpret me. I can see why people would use such tactics. It's their subscription and they can play the game as they see fit. But like Chomapuraku said, if I have a choice between taking part in a large fleet engagement where the Alliance is pushing lines around on the influence map and waiting for these guys to decloak, it's simply not difficult to make that choice. Their stats show that they decloaked for more than just haulers, but not for me they didn't.
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Crackzilla
The Shadow Order SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.08 15:39:00 -
[198]
Edited by: *****zilla on 08/05/2008 15:46:56
Originally by: lecrotta So as far as having no idea is concerned your totally wrong, as i personally got sick of losing ships to gain space others actually profited from and joined BE then left for another high spec pvp corp.
So we agree that we were playing by different rules? That no one "owned" anyone? BE played their game, we played ours.
Your comment of fighting so that others could profit interests me. This suggests that you couldn't handle losing ships period.
At a certain point if you choose to work together there will always be an imbalance. I'm not sure how BE is structured but are the isks for their contracts split evenly between the members? I'm sure I could find an imbalance somewhere in there.
The fact is that you didn't like to share nor wanted to risk losing ships. You went for high sec "pvp". Fine. We won't judge you by our standards if you don't judge us by yours.
Originally by: lecrotta You forgot to mention that your fighting several hundred vs several hundred involves watching a frozen screen for most of the night, then waiting for a ship any ship to pop up on your overview and of course if that happens the module delay you get is also great fun.
You haven't played in a while. For the last fight it was the luck of the draw. Some module lag. Some people lagged out like myself after 30-45 minutes. For most it was workable.
For crazy high numbers in local it can be unplayable. However good fights exist.
Originally by: lecrotta
PS: When i flew with BE i fought every night and with my new nano corp i do the same, can you make the same claims with your epic uber fleet ops?.. no i did not think so
Epic fleet ops aren't common. Otherwise they wouldn't be epic. We fly nano gangs as does everyone else. There are lots of fights to be had. You're not doing anything unique or special.
Originally by: Angor Smash/Roadkill honestly, even if this thread is a "chest beating" thread as you call it, with the utterly pathetic and bitter replies i've seen here
*Sigh* We're repeatedly insulted with smack and you don't expect us to respond?
This fight between us is entirely in the forums as there is none to be had on the battlefield.
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Porgy
Foundation R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.08 15:44:00 -
[199]
MOVING ON TO RELEVANT TOPICS
So how bout them fun fights out in drone lands?
NAST
Matt Damon
Free Dastommy
*insert rickroll* _______________________
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Crackzilla
The Shadow Order SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.08 15:49:00 -
[200]
Originally by: Porgy drone lands?
Dead as MATT POSSUM?
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lecrotta
lecrotta Corp
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Posted - 2008.05.08 15:50:00 -
[201]
Edited by: lecrotta on 08/05/2008 15:51:57
Originally by: *****zilla
Originally by: lecrotta So as far as having no idea is concerned your totally wrong, as i personally got sick of losing ships to gain space others actually profited from and joined BE then left for another high spec pvp corp.
So we agree that we were playing by different rules? That no one "owned" anyone? BE played their game, we played ours.
Your comment of fighting so that others could profit interests me. This suggests that you couldn't handle losing ships period.
At a certain point if you choose to work together there will always be an imbalance. I'm not sure how BE is structured but are the isks for their contracts split evenly between the members? I'm sure I could find an imbalance somewhere in there.
The fact is that you didn't like to share nor wanted to risk losing ships. You went for high sec "pvp". Fine. We won't judge you by our standards if you don't judge us by yours.
It looks to me like their game involved killing lots of you and not dieing much while your game involved not killing them and dieing a lot. As far as isk sharing was concerned BE paid out by how active ppl were when i was with them and i doubt that has changed tbh.
And as far as losing ships is concerned your right i do not like it but then again who does but at least with the guys im with now and when i was with BE i lost my ship because of my mistakes and i could actually see it pop and improve instead of logging out or crashing and waking up in a clone vat after being lagged out for 2 hours.
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laylord
Gallente Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.08 16:08:00 -
[202]
So BE brags about how uber they think they are and ppl applaude them, Smashkill gives their point of view and they get called whinners and bitter.
I guess ppl can't hide how much they really hate Smashkill. [gold]Your SIG is to big please reduce it to fit these limits
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Crackzilla
The Shadow Order SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.08 16:09:00 -
[203]
Originally by: lecrotta It looks to me like their game involved killing lots of you and not dieing much while your game involved not killing them and dieing a lot.
Are you telling me that a gang in voice coms with scouts and cloaks and looking for pvp can pop those that aren't organized nor looking for a fight? News at 11! This is revoluntionary!
We're talking about an organized gang that is known for minimizing risk. Of course their k/d ratio should be high. In our opinion let them trim the fat. Their results were disappointing. Either they weren't active or aggressive as we thought or we've less fat than thought.
Either way this is nothing new. This isn't unique. This isn't special.
Originally by: lecrotta
And as far as losing ships is concerned your right i do not like it but then again who does but at least with the guys im with now and when i was with BE i lost my ship because of my mistakes
Being afraid of a lag bomb shouldn't stop you from playing. You can choose to fight in a big fight or not based on if your computer can handle it. It doesn't make sense to ignore half the game based on something that might strike once a month.
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lecrotta
lecrotta Corp
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Posted - 2008.05.08 16:26:00 -
[204]
Originally by: *****zilla
Originally by: lecrotta It looks to me like their game involved killing lots of you and not dieing much while your game involved not killing them and dieing a lot.
Are you telling me that a gang in voice coms with scouts and cloaks and looking for pvp can pop those that aren't organized nor looking for a fight? News at 11! This is revoluntionary!
We're talking about an organized gang that is known for minimizing risk. Of course their k/d ratio should be high. In our opinion let them trim the fat. Their results were disappointing. Either they weren't active or aggressive as we thought or we've less fat than thought.
Either way this is nothing new. This isn't unique. This isn't special.
Originally by: lecrotta
And as far as losing ships is concerned your right i do not like it but then again who does but at least with the guys im with now and when i was with BE i lost my ship because of my mistakes
Being afraid of a lag bomb shouldn't stop you from playing. You can choose to fight in a big fight or not based on if your computer can handle it. It doesn't make sense to ignore half the game based on something that might strike once a month.
Maybe they were not organized bud but from what ive read BE were in the same system or two for at least two weeks, now that as far as i am concerned is plenty of time to get organized.
My PC is fine bud in fact its a very high spec one but the fact is that apart from fleet maneuvers large blob fights involve no individual skill on the part of 99.9 percent of the pilots involved and i do not pay my fee to either watch a frozen screen or to press f1-f8 along with 300 other muppets and hope i do not get called as a target.
Now you may call this being afraid of lag but i call it common sense and think that anybody who watches a frozen screen or locks and hits f1-f8 and calls that piloting or pvp is just kidding themselves and is afraid to get into small gang pvp where a lack of actual pvp knowledge and skill is made glaringly obvious and cannot be hidden among the blob.
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Ulric Denrai
Amarr The Secret Fleet Retribution.
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Posted - 2008.05.08 17:11:00 -
[205]
BE tactics are the same as all those isk farmers.And tis my almost main char.
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Lemptie
Gallente Glass House
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Posted - 2008.05.08 17:20:00 -
[206]
Honor ,never saw that in BE .You have it ?
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Aralt Aran
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Posted - 2008.05.08 17:25:00 -
[207]
Think BE doesn`t have mucha honor ,like alot dudes in this game.Goons have the same tactic now.
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Evil Pookie
BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2008.05.08 17:26:00 -
[208]
Originally by: lecrotta
Originally by: *****zilla
Originally by: lecrotta It looks to me like their game involved killing lots of you and not dieing much while your game involved not killing them and dieing a lot.
Are you telling me that a gang in voice coms with scouts and cloaks and looking for pvp can pop those that aren't organized nor looking for a fight? News at 11! This is revoluntionary!
We're talking about an organized gang that is known for minimizing risk. Of course their k/d ratio should be high. In our opinion let them trim the fat. Their results were disappointing. Either they weren't active or aggressive as we thought or we've less fat than thought.
Either way this is nothing new. This isn't unique. This isn't special.
Originally by: lecrotta
And as far as losing ships is concerned your right i do not like it but then again who does but at least with the guys im with now and when i was with BE i lost my ship because of my mistakes
Being afraid of a lag bomb shouldn't stop you from playing. You can choose to fight in a big fight or not based on if your computer can handle it. It doesn't make sense to ignore half the game based on something that might strike once a month.
Maybe they were not organized bud but from what ive read BE were in the same system or two for at least two weeks, now that as far as i am concerned is plenty of time to get organized.
My PC is fine bud in fact its a very high spec one but the fact is that apart from fleet maneuvers large blob fights involve no individual skill on the part of 99.9 percent of the pilots involved and i do not pay my fee to either watch a frozen screen or to press f1-f8 along with 300 other muppets and hope i do not get called as a target.
Now you may call this being afraid of lag but i call it common sense and think that anybody who watches a frozen screen or locks and hits f1-f8 and calls that piloting or pvp is just kidding themselves and is afraid to get into small gang pvp where a lack of actual pvp knowledge and skill is made glaringly obvious and cannot be hidden among the blob.
who are you?
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.08 18:02:00 -
[209]
I just had a look a our alliance forums, and there hasn't been a single passing mention of BWF or BE. Plenty about RA, ED/IRC, SOLARetc, xxDeathxx, and evena few lingering mentions of Tri. Nothing about you guys, though. You sure you were there?
I guess we just don't care very much about a BWF gate camp. That is what its usually like there, anyhow. I mean I'm sure people do care, it's just we've never been bothered enough about it to go there or do anything about it. If you want fights out of Atlas, head towards the blob on the map with "ATLAS" written on it. ------
Originally by: Dark Shikari The problem with killing Jesus is he always just respawns 3 days later anyways. |
Thoran Karlien
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.08 18:06:00 -
[210]
Originally by: Evil Pookie who are you?
I suspect a troll showering this thread with a bit oil for the nice flickering of flames...
Anyway, nice stats, BE, glad you had fun. Keep doing, what you are doing best, Eve needs all kind of pvp, else it would get too stale.
____________________________ Whine : The only FOTM than never gets nerved or out of style! |
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lecrotta
lecrotta Corp
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Posted - 2008.05.08 18:14:00 -
[211]
Originally by: Patch86 I just had a look a our alliance forums, and there hasn't been a single passing mention of BWF or BE. Plenty about RA, ED/IRC, SOLARetc, xxDeathxx, and evena few lingering mentions of Tri. Nothing about you guys, though. You sure you were there?
I guess we just don't care very much about a BWF gate camp. That is what its usually like there, anyhow. I mean I'm sure people do care, it's just we've never been bothered enough about it to go there or do anything about it. If you want fights out of Atlas, head towards the blob on the map with "ATLAS" written on it.
Maybe thats why smash and RK are mentioned in the title of the thread and all you atlas was it?.. guys got was a "and atlas" comment as you guys seem to have shown up on a few KM's.
You should be pleased you got a mention instead of toiling in eve pvp obscurity like you normally do until one of your naps achieves something of note and throws you a bone by including you in a report.
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gerku
Priory Of The Lemon R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.08 18:18:00 -
[212]
You killed our carebears Ohno we fail
Sorry i was in drone regions. But hey i'm Crap....
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gerku
Priory Of The Lemon R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.08 18:20:00 -
[213]
And goons : CU in space and take youre caps with you.....
Less talking more pewpew..
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TOTALHELLDEATH
Caldari Stellar Convertors
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Posted - 2008.05.08 18:58:00 -
[214]
Edited by: TOTALHELLDEATH on 08/05/2008 19:00:28
Originally by: gerku And goons : CU in space and take youre caps with you.....
Less talking more pewpew..
i think you are looking like that after they took their caps
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D'ceet
Shadows of the Dead R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.08 19:18:00 -
[215]
still waiting on those records satan....
oh wait.
there are none.
Official D'ceet CSM Page.
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gerku
Priory Of The Lemon R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.08 19:18:00 -
[216]
Originally by: TOTALHELLDEATH Edited by: TOTALHELLDEATH on 08/05/2008 19:00:28
Originally by: gerku And goons : CU in space and take youre caps with you.....
Less talking more pewpew..
i think you are looking like that after they took their caps
Russian alt?? that aint english dude... PS. Get balls talk with youre main
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lecrotta
lecrotta Corp
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Posted - 2008.05.08 19:22:00 -
[217]
Edited by: lecrotta on 08/05/2008 19:23:08
Originally by: gerku
Originally by: TOTALHELLDEATH
Originally by: gerku And goons : CU in space and take youre caps with you.....
Less talking more pewpew..
Russian alt?? that aint english dude... PS. Get balls talk with youre main
Maybe his main is banned for posting pictures just like mine is.
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Kobushi
OCForums
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Posted - 2008.05.08 19:51:00 -
[218]
Edited by: Kobushi on 08/05/2008 19:51:59 Best burning eden moment for me having 2 raven and 1 rapier trying to pop my drake and when they couldn't after 5 min and when the rapier forgot web/scram me I warped off which was followed by about 20 min of smack about me logging off, haX0rz, We had 6 points on you and general calling of the whhhhambulance.
Thanks for the entertainment guys.
Edit: for typos.
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Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2008.05.08 20:29:00 -
[219]
Wow. I come back to find 8 pages of poor attempts at smacktalk.
It seems Roadkill DO care!
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gerku
Priory Of The Lemon R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.08 20:31:00 -
[220]
Who are you ??
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Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2008.05.08 20:45:00 -
[221]
Originally by: gerku Who are you ??
1) Go to jita 2) Undock 3) See statue 4) Be in state of awe
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Draconian Arcane
Minmatar Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.08 20:47:00 -
[222]
Most people really don't care, we just have fun posting on forums that have no real impact on what really goes on in game. As far as BWF goes, nice job, too bad that most people use jump clones and are preoccupied with fighting other foes in solar systems quite a bit away or it might have been more fun for you.
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TroNaaR
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.08 20:48:00 -
[223]
Originally by: Shin Ra
Originally by: gerku Who are you ??
1) Go to jita 2) Undock 3) See statue 4) Be in state of awe
Confirming I will receive the ISK.
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Alocian
Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.08 20:58:00 -
[224]
I have nothing useful to say but I must get in on this drama lama action.
Shin Ra,
Your involvement helps us more than it hurts us. All the good pilots are out in fleet ops so you are only killing the blokes whom we wish dead anyway for not participating in the ops
Kill Kill - if you like I can relay you information on ratters in geminate while our ops are going on - that way you can have even better targets
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FinrodFelagund
Rome
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Posted - 2008.05.08 21:04:00 -
[225]
Originally by: HellsRazor you think if anyone wanted to waste doing your tactic that actually HOLD space they couldnt? the fact is ... you are what space you hold... NOTHING.
As you are the owners of geminate, I might rescind that statement ;p
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TOTALHELLDEATH
Caldari Stellar Convertors
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Posted - 2008.05.08 21:08:00 -
[226]
Edited by: TOTALHELLDEATH on 08/05/2008 21:08:19
Originally by: Shin Ra
Originally by: gerku Who are you ??
1) Go to jita 2) Undock 3) See statue 4) Be in state of awe
only a grandmaster of smack can own ppl like that on forum, be my sensei!!!11
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Tyremis
Spartan Industrial Manufacturing SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.08 21:11:00 -
[227]
Originally by: DNSBLACK Edited by: DNSBLACK on 08/05/2008 13:41:06 Nice work Burn Eden, We had the same type of success. Here is the link to our campaign last month. Iam not sure what gate you were working over but the 9P40-F gate in 1S-SU1 was a blast. I recomend anyone who is looking to have fun camp that gate they have to use it to move into the drone regions. Once again my hats off to to Burn Eden proving once again you dont have to own anything but the ship you fly to have fun. Please copy and paste the link below iam not sure i can link it directly.
http://killboard.dirtnapsquad.net/?a=cc_detail&ctr_id=2
Please copy and paste my 92percent success ratio against ED here
http://ed.evekill.org/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=39020
i musta been slipping on my other char only 91.43 : \
Anyone can play the killboard game moron
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Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2008.05.08 21:13:00 -
[228]
Originally by: Tyremis
Originally by: DNSBLACK Edited by: DNSBLACK on 08/05/2008 13:41:06 Nice work Burn Eden, We had the same type of success. Here is the link to our campaign last month. Iam not sure what gate you were working over but the 9P40-F gate in 1S-SU1 was a blast. I recomend anyone who is looking to have fun camp that gate they have to use it to move into the drone regions. Once again my hats off to to Burn Eden proving once again you dont have to own anything but the ship you fly to have fun. Please copy and paste the link below iam not sure i can link it directly.
http://killboard.dirtnapsquad.net/?a=cc_detail&ctr_id=2
Please copy and paste my 92percent success ratio against ED here
http://ed.evekill.org/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=39020
i musta been slipping on my other char only 91.43 : \
Anyone can play the killboard game moron
Yeah but you only killed 43 ships.
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Tyremis
Spartan Industrial Manufacturing SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.08 21:18:00 -
[229]
Edited by: Tyremis on 08/05/2008 21:20:14
i do what i can but when dudes are too afraid to undock. I really cant do much about it. Btw well over 200 with my other chars. So weve got chest thumping killboard stats now all we need is a nice sarcastic derailment and this will be a perfect trash thread on CAOD
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Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2008.05.08 21:28:00 -
[230]
Originally by: Tyremis Edited by: Tyremis on 08/05/2008 21:20:14
So weve got chest thumping killboard stats now
200 kills does not equal chest thumping.
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ardik
TunkbwahCorp GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.05.08 21:30:00 -
[231]
Originally by: Shin Ra
Originally by: Tyremis Edited by: Tyremis on 08/05/2008 21:20:14
So weve got chest thumping killboard stats now
200 kills does not equal chest thumping.
maybe you should kill some more vOv
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Tyremis
Spartan Industrial Manufacturing SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.08 21:31:00 -
[232]
Originally by: Shin Ra
Originally by: Tyremis Edited by: Tyremis on 08/05/2008 21:20:14
So weve got chest thumping killboard stats now
200 kills does not equal chest thumping.
Neither should sitting cloaked in a raven waiting for anything you can outdps. Your no different than anyone in eve. And we wont even remember you were there in a week.
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ardik
TunkbwahCorp GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.05.08 21:32:00 -
[233]
Originally by: Tyremis
Originally by: Shin Ra
Originally by: Tyremis Edited by: Tyremis on 08/05/2008 21:20:14
So weve got chest thumping killboard stats now
200 kills does not equal chest thumping.
Neither should sitting cloaked in a raven waiting for anything you can outdps. Your no different than anyone in eve. And we wont even remember you were there in a week.
maybe they like winning or something what a bunch of nublets
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Tyremis
Spartan Industrial Manufacturing SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.08 21:32:00 -
[234]
Originally by: ardik
Originally by: Shin Ra
Originally by: Tyremis Edited by: Tyremis on 08/05/2008 21:20:14
So weve got chest thumping killboard stats now
200 kills does not equal chest thumping.
maybe you should kill some more vOv
sure man when they invent the eject guy from station without his approval button i probably will.
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Tyremis
Spartan Industrial Manufacturing SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.08 21:34:00 -
[235]
oh and goons hahahaha hows NOL?
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lecrotta
lecrotta Corp
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Posted - 2008.05.08 21:37:00 -
[236]
Originally by: Tyremis
i do what i can but when dudes are too afraid to undock. I really cant do much about it. Btw well over 200 with my other chars. So weve got chest thumping killboard stats now all we need is a nice sarcastic derailment and this will be a perfect trash thread on CAOD
200 kills?.. is that a month?.. cos then you may be somebody worth listening to if not i suggest you move to a place where they are traveling through to get your kills up a bit.
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Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2008.05.08 21:39:00 -
[237]
Originally by: Tyremis
Originally by: Shin Ra
Originally by: Tyremis Edited by: Tyremis on 08/05/2008 21:20:14
So weve got chest thumping killboard stats now
200 kills does not equal chest thumping.
Neither should sitting cloaked in a raven waiting for anything you can outdps. Your no different than anyone in eve. And we wont even remember you were there in a week.
Your understanding of what we do and how we do it is weak.
Everyone is different. We are the best. Better than all the rest.
We didn't want those remembrance anyway
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Tyremis
Spartan Industrial Manufacturing SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.08 21:43:00 -
[238]
hahahaha i wont be baited by a guy that flys a Raven sry dude try harder
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ardik
TunkbwahCorp GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.05.08 21:47:00 -
[239]
Originally by: Tyremis oh and goons hahahaha hows NOL?
Oh man, funny story, we got to delve and we realized, this **** is fukken npc space, and as you may know, goons don't "do" npc. So we just went back to one of our other 6-7 regions(i lose count) to chill out.
How's geminate though? Still the worst region in the game by a mile?
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Tyremis
Spartan Industrial Manufacturing SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.08 21:48:00 -
[240]
Originally by: ardik
Originally by: Tyremis oh and goons hahahaha hows NOL?
Oh man, funny story, we got to delve and we realized, this **** is fukken npc space, and as you may know, goons don't "do" npc. So we just went back to one of our other 6-7 regions(i lose count) to chill out.
How's geminate though? Still the worst region in the game by a mile?
actually yes it is we call it the armpit of eve
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SATAN
BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2008.05.08 21:49:00 -
[241]
Originally by: Tyremis hahahaha i wont be baited by a guy that flys a Raven sry dude try harder
You seem to have a selective loss posting attitude, here let me help you a bit.
http://www.battleclinic.com/eve_online/pk/view/player-Tyremis-kills.html
Here is your ENTIRE eve life record. And it seems like the majority of your kills are in fleet battles where as we all know competence is surpassed by blind allegiance.
111 kills 44 losses
Please crawl back under the rock you came from.
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Tyremis
Spartan Industrial Manufacturing SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.08 21:55:00 -
[242]
Edited by: Tyremis on 08/05/2008 21:57:23 Btw positive isk ratio against you this capaign BE man im such a nub
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Phrixus Zephyr
Prospero Incorperated
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Posted - 2008.05.08 21:56:00 -
[243]
Originally by: SATAN
Originally by: Tyremis hahahaha i wont be baited by a guy that flys a Raven sry dude try harder
You seem to have a selective loss posting attitude, here let me help you a bit.
http://www.battleclinic.com/eve_online/pk/view/player-Tyremis-kills.html
Here is your ENTIRE eve life record. And it seems like the majority of your kills are in fleet battles where as we all know competence is surpassed by blind allegiance.
111 kills 44 losses
Please crawl back under the rock you came from.
Not to **** on your chips or anything, but unless he posts all his kills on Battleclinic himself, i doubt they're all on there.
Not that you don't have a point, but using Battleclinic as proof is pretty pointless unless people post all their mails. For example I know im missing hundreds of kills on battleclinic because i stopped using it a long time ago.
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Gontard
Minmatar E-Truth
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Posted - 2008.05.08 21:56:00 -
[244]
Originally by: SATAN And it seems like the majority of your kills are in fleet battles where as we all know competence is surpassed by blind allegiance.
Sitting cloaked on a gate a ganking alone noobs takes a lot of skill yeah right.
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Mistress Suffering
Einherjar Rising Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2008.05.08 21:59:00 -
[245]
Battleclinic isn't even close to showing lifetime results for people. If your board doesn't feed directly into a battleclinic hosted board, your results are going to be really skewed.
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Tyremis
Spartan Industrial Manufacturing SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.08 22:01:00 -
[246]
Edited by: Tyremis on 08/05/2008 22:02:58 can i sync mine with Battleclinic? i have positive ratios with almost everyone so im not afraid of puttin every single loss up there. i would like a full picture with my other chars as well.
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Darineah Charach
Minmatar Antares Fleet Yards SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.08 22:05:00 -
[247]
Originally by: lecrotta
Originally by: *****zilla
Originally by: lecrotta
Maybe they were not organized bud but from what ive read BE were in the same system or two for at least two weeks, now that as far as i am concerned is plenty of time to get organized.
You're absolutely right, and we would have got organized....if we cared.
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Boxing Kangaroo
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SATAN
BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2008.05.08 22:08:00 -
[248]
Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr
Originally by: SATAN
Originally by: Tyremis hahahaha i wont be baited by a guy that flys a Raven sry dude try harder
You seem to have a selective loss posting attitude, here let me help you a bit.
http://www.battleclinic.com/eve_online/pk/view/player-Tyremis-kills.html
Here is your ENTIRE eve life record. And it seems like the majority of your kills are in fleet battles where as we all know competence is surpassed by blind allegiance.
111 kills 44 losses
Please crawl back under the rock you came from.
Not to **** on your chips or anything, but unless he posts all his kills on Battleclinic himself, i doubt they're all on there.
Not that you don't have a point, but using Battleclinic as proof is pretty pointless unless people post all their mails. For example I know im missing hundreds of kills on battleclinic because i stopped using it a long time ago.
Battleclinic pulls kills from just about every kill board out there, so it is the most accurate tool the EvE comunity has going. So yes it is far more accurate than the stats he seems to be showing on his own killboard.
Besides why would anyone want to make up kills on some guy no one has ever seen or heard of. So we know he has at least 44 looses to a claimed 4, if you still choose to believe a word he says well thats your fault isnt it.
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lecrotta
lecrotta Corp
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Posted - 2008.05.08 22:11:00 -
[249]
Originally by: Darineah Charach
Originally by: lecrotta
Originally by: *****zilla
Originally by: lecrotta
Maybe they were not organized bud but from what ive read BE were in the same system or two for at least two weeks, now that as far as i am concerned is plenty of time to get organized.
You're absolutely right, and we would have got organized....if we cared.
Yea i know i know you didn't want those ships anyway.............
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Tyremis
Spartan Industrial Manufacturing SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.08 22:13:00 -
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Edited by: Tyremis on 08/05/2008 22:14:19 yep 44 losses and 211 kills i gotta go out and kill lose more ships stat! btw i will never fit a cloak +10 fun factor
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Mistress Suffering
Einherjar Rising Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2008.05.08 22:16:00 -
[251]
Don't much care whether Tygeris is any good or not, I just find the claim that Battleclinic is even vaguely useful as a standard for measuring to be garbage. I look at Battleclinic links occasionally and it does a pretty horrible job of keeping up with kills for any non-customer.
I'd love to see a CCP hosted public database of all kills, but don't for a moment think Battleclinic fills that niche. Its just not even close.
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SATAN
BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2008.05.08 22:20:00 -
[252]
Originally by: Tyremis Edited by: Tyremis on 08/05/2008 22:14:19 yep 44 losses and 211 kills i gotta go out and kill lose more ships stat! btw i will never fit a cloak +10 fun factor
Here you go making up things again, lets be clear here.
111 Kills, no 2's in that.
Just so you know, most of the members in Burn Eden have had days where we killed more ships than you have in your entire eve carer.
Not to mention the fact that if you look at all your kills I cant find one where there was not at least 20 of you and yours gankings some poor guy. Seriously man, if you really feel what you do is fun or anything challenging than I truly feel sorry for you.
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Tyremis
Spartan Industrial Manufacturing SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.08 22:23:00 -
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1 my eve career is 2 months of pvpin. 2 Smash killboard shows 173 "real kills" 207 kills and im takin your losses you said from battleclinic. but it matters not ya know im out there having fun without a cloak.
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SATAN
BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2008.05.08 22:30:00 -
[254]
Originally by: Tyremis 1 my eve career is 2 months of pvpin. 2 Smash killboard shows 173 "real kills" 207 kills and im takin your losses you said from battleclinic. but it matters not ya know im out there having fun without a cloak.
What happened to only 4 losses and having such a great k/d ratio? Do you need me to start quoting you?
Why would you need a cloak when you wont engage anyone unless you outnumber them so badly that its not if you kill them, but if you can get on the mail before it dies. But oddly enough many of your lost ships DID HAVE CLOAKS fitted.
Please explain how such an uber pvp'r had cloaks fitted to his ship.
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Tyremis
Spartan Industrial Manufacturing SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.08 22:33:00 -
[255]
Edited by: Tyremis on 08/05/2008 22:35:33 one rapier and one hound is all i found so far lulz man im drowning in cloaks!!
those 4 losses were specifically against ED. Not my whole eve career quote away
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oodin
The IMorral MAjority Imorral Dragons
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Posted - 2008.05.09 00:54:00 -
[256]
Edited by: oodin on 09/05/2008 00:55:01
Originally by: Tyremis Edited by: Tyremis on 08/05/2008 22:38:23 one rapier and one hound is all i found so far lulz man im drowning in cloaks!!
those 4 losses were specifically against ED. Not my whole eve career quote away
We are smashkill we leeroy into people with far greater numbers all the time. In fact almost daily. Now that is what i call fun!
no offence but smash doesnt leeroy into anything outnumbered...well they used to shuttlebomb but dont think that count *edit* and you jumping blindly into 5 BE ravens doesnt count as leerooy either
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Evil Pookie
BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2008.05.09 02:14:00 -
[257]
Originally by: Tyremis Edited by: Tyremis on 08/05/2008 22:38:23 one rapier and one hound is all i found so far lulz man im drowning in cloaks!!
those 4 losses were specifically against ED. Not my whole eve career quote away
We are smashkill we leeroy into people with far greater numbers all the time. In fact almost daily. Now that is what i call fun!
Correct me if i am wrong but the whole concept of a leeroy is that you rush into insurmountable odds and get wtfbbqd with no hope of survival.
What you do is more like a zerg rush. you have the insurmountable odds and with little or no inDUHvidual skill you outnumber your foe and swamp him.
^^ this is something to be proud of?
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Aphrodite Sithe
Black Serpent Technologies Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.05.09 02:23:00 -
[258]
All I am going to say is that I have a lot of fun pew pewing with SMASH and friends. Seriously. :) Even though I tend to get my ass kicked a lot. :( Not everyone can be blue to everyone and have a decent amount of fun, right? (IMO of coarse) It's even nice to hold a decent conversation while my pod zips around trying to avoid being killed. xD
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Fesken Rans
The Order of Cistral
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Posted - 2008.05.09 02:30:00 -
[259]
Originally by: SATAN [
Battleclinic pulls kills from just about every kill board out there, so it is the most accurate tool the EvE comunity has going. So yes it is far more accurate than the stats he seems to be showing on his own killboard.
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Sorry, nop.
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Evil Pookie
BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2008.05.09 02:30:00 -
[260]
Originally by: oodin Edited by: oodin on 09/05/2008 00:55:01
Originally by: Tyremis Edited by: Tyremis on 08/05/2008 22:38:23 one rapier and one hound is all i found so far lulz man im drowning in cloaks!!
those 4 losses were specifically against ED. Not my whole eve career quote away
We are smashkill we leeroy into people with far greater numbers all the time. In fact almost daily. Now that is what i call fun!
no offence but smash doesnt leeroy into anything outnumbered...well they used to shuttlebomb but dont think that count *edit* and you jumping blindly into 5 BE ravens doesnt count as leerooy either
I wish we had 5 raven pilots :(
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USN CVN72
Caldari Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.09 03:17:00 -
[261]
Ding Ding USN Arriving.
Hey all u nuubs - why you still posting stuff here? is the game really that boring that you rather forum post?
get back in game and continue ganking stuff or my spaceship will enter Eve Forums and silence all of you
Ding Ding USN Departing.
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Chomapuraku
Caldari Templar Republic R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.09 03:24:00 -
[262]
Originally by: Shin Ra Killboard stats, e-peen, e-peen, e-peen, battleclinic, e-peen, e-peen, e-peen
why does nobody care about how crazy awesome i am? you guys should self-destruct your ships in submission to my greatness whenever i enter local
that's my re-cap of this thread. join us next week for more forum-warrioring here on EVE's most important mini-game, COAD
Originally by: Crimson11 Crimson11: What the hell happened?
WarGod: Some breaking occurred, the Alt Key was involved, that's about all we know.
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Thaanvanite
Minmatar ACCORD Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.09 03:45:00 -
[263]
ATTENTION
free Dastommy79
That is all
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ISpam
OHHAYGUYS
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Posted - 2008.05.09 03:50:00 -
[264]
do to leroy http://eve-search.com/thread/751156/page/1#15
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Lord Fitz
Antares Fleet Yards SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.09 05:01:00 -
[265]
Originally by: Evil Pookie Correct me if i am wrong but the whole concept of a leeroy is that you rush into insurmountable odds and get wtfbbqd with no hope of survival.
What you do is more like a zerg rush. you have the insurmountable odds and with little or no inDUHvidual skill you outnumber your foe and swamp him.
^^ this is something to be proud of?
You're wrong, ask Etheral Dawn and IRC, we jump into them when they outnumber us significantly even knowing we will lose, it's not good for the k/d ratio, but believe it or not it's fun, and that's more important to some people.
We have people lose their dreads in a fleet fight, and still go back to get their carriers to continue a losing battle.
We lose, and we dust ourselves off and we do it again, and again and again and again. Until the other person gives up, regardless of how good their k/d ratio is, eventually it doesn't matter. And as a bonus we often win too. But most importantly we have great fun.
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Tolsimir Wolfblood
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Posted - 2008.05.09 06:09:00 -
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Edited by: Tolsimir Wolfblood on 09/05/2008 06:09:27 Yea its true. I fly with ED and when u guys jump in one at a time and we pop u guys it is really fun. The bloob u guys ran threw r-6 with was quite nice i might add.
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Evil Pookie
BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2008.05.09 06:27:00 -
[267]
Originally by: Lord Fitz
Originally by: Evil Pookie Correct me if i am wrong but the whole concept of a leeroy is that you rush into insurmountable odds and get wtfbbqd with no hope of survival.
What you do is more like a zerg rush. you have the insurmountable odds and with little or no inDUHvidual skill you outnumber your foe and swamp him.
^^ this is something to be proud of?
You're wrong, ask Etheral Dawn and IRC, we jump into them when they outnumber us significantly even knowing we will lose, it's not good for the k/d ratio, but believe it or not it's fun, and that's more important to some people.
We have people lose their dreads in a fleet fight, and still go back to get their carriers to continue a losing battle.
We lose, and we dust ourselves off and we do it again, and again and again and again. Until the other person gives up, regardless of how good their k/d ratio is, eventually it doesn't matter. And as a bonus we often win too. But most importantly we have great fun.
Let me get this right..... You enjoy losing ships, we enjoy killing ships. It is match made in heavens!
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MassonA
Caldari coracao ardente Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2008.05.09 07:06:00 -
[268]
Turn that frown upside down!
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Sinjuri
Out-of-Space Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2008.05.09 07:11:00 -
[269]
Edited by: Sinjuri on 09/05/2008 07:11:55
Originally by: Lord Fitz
You're wrong, ask Etheral Dawn and IRC, we jump into them when they outnumber us significantly even knowing we will lose, it's not good for the k/d ratio, but believe it or not it's fun, and that's more important to some people.
We have people lose their dreads in a fleet fight, and still go back to get their carriers to continue a losing battle.
We lose, and we dust ourselves off and we do it again, and again and again and again. Until the other person gives up, regardless of how good their k/d ratio is, eventually it doesn't matter. And as a bonus we often win too. But most importantly we have great fun.
Mhm. Problem is that you have 5x more ppl in your ally then us. So the times we outnumber smashkill fleets are... you see:P?
But all in all youre right:) Even smacktalking is more civilized as it used to be last weeks. If you would start to post your losses too on your kb or make it api based...
See ya on the battlefield o/
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Quesa
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.09 07:26:00 -
[270]
I love how certain forum mods target people for bans and thread locks, but when a truely crappy thread comes along (such as this one) it's allowed to fester into this sad state.
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Sevdah
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2008.05.09 09:06:00 -
[271]
Originally by: Evil Pookie Let me get this right..... You enjoy losing ships, we enjoy killing ships. It is match made in heavens!
Well, I heard you enjoy cloaking much much more than killing ships.
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lecrotta
lecrotta Corp
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Posted - 2008.05.09 11:11:00 -
[272]
Edited by: lecrotta on 09/05/2008 11:15:23
Originally by: Lord Fitz
Originally by: Evil Pookie Correct me if i am wrong but the whole concept of a leeroy is that you rush into insurmountable odds and get wtfbbqd with no hope of survival.
What you do is more like a zerg rush. you have the insurmountable odds and with little or no inDUHvidual skill you outnumber your foe and swamp him.
^^ this is something to be proud of?
You're wrong, ask Etheral Dawn and IRC, we leeroy into them when they outnumber us significantly even knowing we will lose, it's not good for the k/d ratio, but believe it or not it's fun, and that's more important to some people.
We have people lose their dreads in a fleet fight, and still go back to get their carriers to continue a losing battle.
We lose, and we dust ourselves off and we do it again, and again and again and again. Until the other person gives up, regardless of how good their k/d ratio is, eventually it doesn't matter. And as a bonus we often win too. But most importantly we have great fun.
Have you considered improving your skills as pilots and your pvp abilities as a team so you can actually regularly beat the guys you "leeroy" into.
It seems to me that you are like a lot of ppl who are afraid of failing and so like them you make massive and loud claims of not being interested in KD ratios or other measurements of pvp skill every time the subject is brought up, all because you are unwilling to risk the embarrassment of ppl knowing you actually suck at pvp(guess what.. its to late we know).
Nobody enjoys losing battles or ships and you cannot convince me or any other person with a brain that you enjoy it cos its a lie, its just another "i did not want that (insert) anyway" comment and saying it makes you look utterly pathetic.
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Draahkness
Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.09 11:48:00 -
[273]
Originally by: lecrotta Edited by: lecrotta on 09/05/2008 11:15:23
Originally by: Lord Fitz
Originally by: Evil Pookie Correct me if i am wrong but the whole concept of a leeroy is that you rush into insurmountable odds and get wtfbbqd with no hope of survival.
What you do is more like a zerg rush. you have the insurmountable odds and with little or no inDUHvidual skill you outnumber your foe and swamp him.
^^ this is something to be proud of?
You're wrong, ask Etheral Dawn and IRC, we leeroy into them when they outnumber us significantly even knowing we will lose, it's not good for the k/d ratio, but believe it or not it's fun, and that's more important to some people.
We have people lose their dreads in a fleet fight, and still go back to get their carriers to continue a losing battle.
We lose, and we dust ourselves off and we do it again, and again and again and again. Until the other person gives up, regardless of how good their k/d ratio is, eventually it doesn't matter. And as a bonus we often win too. But most importantly we have great fun.
Have you considered improving your skills as pilots and your pvp abilities as a team so you can actually regularly beat the guys you "leeroy" into.
It seems to me that you are like a lot of ppl who are afraid of failing and so like them you make massive and loud claims of not being interested in KD ratios or other measurements of pvp skill every time the subject is brought up, all because you are unwilling to risk the embarrassment of ppl knowing you actually suck at pvp(guess what.. its to late we know).
Nobody enjoys losing battles or ships and you cannot convince me or any other person with a brain that you enjoy it cos its a lie, its just another "i did not want that (insert) anyway" comment and saying it makes you look utterly pathetic.
No offence but you dont know r0adkill history. The very name itself was chosen for a very specific reason. o.0 as an alliance was formed by IE-EX and 2 other corps from former Stain Alliance. But the focus of the alliance, at least the pvp part of it, has mostly been molded by IE-EX. Interstellar Exodus has always been about fun over "I-win". The attitude was formed when Scoot started taking control of the corp back in the day when we started roaming g/IRON/RZR space in late 2005. The objective was not to sit cloaked until a lone target appeared but to attack anything (except really stupid odds like 5 vs 40 although we have done that too). Back in those days we even used mostly t1 cruisers, partly because the difference between hacs and t1 was lesser back then and partly because caracals was a good jamming ship and rax could drop 8 ogre II. This type of Leroy fun has always been the main agenda of IE-EX, face it what is more fun gaming experience; sitting cloaked for 3 hours then logging or attacking and hoping to get out with more isk killed then lost?
The reason we have a worse k/d ratio now is manyfold. Partly it is the current drift towards Cap-Online. Leroy 10 t1 cruisers into 10 HAC/bs back in '05 is alot diffrent then Leroy 10 t2 frigs and cruisers into 10 carriers and a mom. Partly its because in a large alliance like o.0 you will always have noobs, carebears and downright idiots who doesent read intel channels and simply jump into often/always camped systems without checking with someone first, or who doesent check local and continue ratting. It has actually come to the point where we "old timers" dont even care about BWF anymore. We simply let the noobies die a few times hoping they will learn.
Of course you are completely correct, no one likes to loose a battle. At least not the large ones, the ones that matter. But as far as the small roaming gangs are concerned our prime objective is to have a fun gaming experience over always winning and as such we might just Leroy knowing full well we might get pwned. We laugh and whine in equal measures over TS for maybe 10 minutes then we get back in the saddle.
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lecrotta
lecrotta Corp
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Posted - 2008.05.09 12:14:00 -
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Edited by: lecrotta on 09/05/2008 12:14:49
Originally by: Draahkness The objective was not to sit cloaked until a lone target appeared but to attack anything (except really stupid odds like 5 vs 40 although we have done that too)
Did you win with odds of around 5 vs 40 cos BE did and the 40 they were fighting had a titan and caps in it....
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=712677
Im sorry if i burst you little "BE stay cloaked for 3 hours and pop the occasional solo muppet" delusion with that link.
The fact is that unless BE have changed since i left they use cloaks mostly to avoid getting probed out and uber blobbed its that simple, but they are also willing to fight massively outnumbered if theres even a small chance of winning or gaining a few kills without losses.
The difference is that you do not have the individual or teamwork pvp skill to do that so you make claims of "we love leeroying" to cover the fact that your unwilling to learn the skills because you risk failing and then you would not be able to fall back on the leeroy excuse.
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Bobby Atlas
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.09 12:41:00 -
[275]
Originally by: lecrotta Edited by: lecrotta on 09/05/2008 12:14:49
Originally by: Draahkness The objective was not to sit cloaked until a lone target appeared but to attack anything (except really stupid odds like 5 vs 40 although we have done that too)
Did you win with odds of around 5 vs 40 cos BE did and the 40 they were fighting had a titan and caps in it....
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=712677
Im sorry if i burst you little "BE stay cloaked for 3 hours and pop the occasional solo muppet" delusion with that link.
The fact is that unless BE have changed since i left they use cloaks mostly to avoid getting probed out and uber blobbed its that simple, but they are also willing to fight massively outnumbered if theres even a small chance of winning or gaining a few kills without losses.
The difference is that you do not have the individual or teamwork pvp skill to do that so you make claims of "we love leeroying" to cover the fact that your unwilling to learn the skills because you risk failing and then you would not be able to fall back on the leeroy excuse.
*yawn* get off your high horse, BE ain't what it used to be. This thread was long ago derailed into a back and forth foray of bull****.
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lecrotta
lecrotta Corp
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Posted - 2008.05.09 12:46:00 -
[276]
Originally by: Bobby Atlas
Originally by: lecrotta
Originally by: Draahkness The objective was not to sit cloaked until a lone target appeared but to attack anything (except really stupid odds like 5 vs 40 although we have done that too)
Did you win with odds of around 5 vs 40 cos BE did and the 40 they were fighting had a titan and caps in it....
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=712677
Im sorry if i burst you little "BE stay cloaked for 3 hours and pop the occasional solo muppet" delusion with that link.
The fact is that unless BE have changed since i left they use cloaks mostly to avoid getting probed out and uber blobbed its that simple, but they are also willing to fight massively outnumbered if theres even a small chance of winning or gaining a few kills without losses.
The difference is that you do not have the individual or teamwork pvp skill to do that so you make claims of "we love leeroying" to cover the fact that your unwilling to learn the skills because you risk failing and then you would not be able to fall back on the leeroy excuse.
BE ain't what it used to be.
Ive posted my link as proof how about you back up your comment with one cos as they say............ proof or stfu.
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Lomas Barisa
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Posted - 2008.05.09 13:18:00 -
[277]
41,6% of those kills are industrials, shuttles, transports, noobships, mining barges, exhumers and capsules. PVP gods, the lot of you.
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lecrotta
lecrotta Corp
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Posted - 2008.05.09 13:45:00 -
[278]
Edited by: lecrotta on 09/05/2008 13:50:43
Originally by: Lomas Barisa 41,6% of those kills are industrials, shuttles, transports, noobships, mining barges, exhumers and capsules. PVP gods, the lot of you.
Nice attempt at fudging figures bud but pods do not get included as they are from killing ships so work out your figures without including the 228 pods and i think you will find a different percentage.
So:
763 kills
-228 pods = 535 real ship kills
535 real ship kills
-17 noob ships -2 exhumer's -50 indies -1 mining barge -12 transports -8 shuttles
= 445 combat kills out of 535 ship kills
So actually 83% combat ship kills from honest figures.
Now i say thats a bit more accurate tbh and as far as the other ship types getting killed is concerned how many ppl can say that they pass up the chance to kill mining barges, industrials, transports or exhumer's if they are pvping??????.
Ok 8 shuttles and 17 noob ships as well but hey after a fight if they are caught in a bubble who is gonna claim sainthood and say they would not pop them not me.
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King Hopy
Beasts of Burden R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.09 14:12:00 -
[279]
Originally by: lecrotta Edited by: lecrotta on 09/05/2008 12:14:49
Originally by: Draahkness The objective was not to sit cloaked until a lone target appeared but to attack anything (except really stupid odds like 5 vs 40 although we have done that too)
Did you win with odds of around 5 vs 40 cos BE did and the 40 they were fighting had a titan and caps in it....
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=712677
Im sorry if i burst you little "BE stay cloaked for 3 hours and pop the occasional solo muppet" delusion with that link.
The fact is that unless BE have changed since i left they use cloaks mostly to avoid getting probed out and uber blobbed its that simple, but they are also willing to fight massively outnumbered if theres even a small chance of winning or gaining a few kills without losses.
The difference is that you do not have the individual or teamwork pvp skill to do that so you make claims of "we love leeroying" to cover the fact that your unwilling to learn the skills because you risk failing and then you would not be able to fall back on the leeroy excuse.
Are u seriously trying to tell me that there was 5 vs 40 on the grid at the same time. Fighting small groups group by group doesnt count as fighting 5 vs 40.. Idiot.
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lecrotta
lecrotta Corp
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Posted - 2008.05.09 14:21:00 -
[280]
Edited by: lecrotta on 09/05/2008 14:24:27
Originally by: King Hopy
Originally by: lecrotta
Originally by: Draahkness The objective was not to sit cloaked until a lone target appeared but to attack anything (except really stupid odds like 5 vs 40 although we have done that too)
Did you win with odds of around 5 vs 40 cos BE did and the 40 they were fighting had a titan and caps in it....
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=712677
Im sorry if i burst you little "BE stay cloaked for 3 hours and pop the occasional solo muppet" delusion with that link.
The fact is that unless BE have changed since i left they use cloaks mostly to avoid getting probed out and uber blobbed its that simple, but they are also willing to fight massively outnumbered if theres even a small chance of winning or gaining a few kills without losses.
The difference is that you do not have the individual or teamwork pvp skill to do that so you make claims of "we love leeroying" to cover the fact that your unwilling to learn the skills because you risk failing and then you would not be able to fall back on the leeroy excuse.
Are u seriously trying to tell me that there was 5 vs 40 on the grid at the same time. Fighting small groups group by group doesnt count as fighting 5 vs 40.. Idiot.
You and your muppet blob alliance claimed that BE remains cloaked unless its a solo gank the thread posted clearly proves you are full of crap. Just because the guys organizing the attack on BE were as crap at pvp as you lot and had no idea how to fully coordinate their numbers is hardly BE's fault now is it???. BE were more than willing to fight those odds as the thread clearly shows and not only that they won the engagement and thats more than you bunch of tards have ever come close to doing.
Why is it that tards like you think a fight is when two sides sit at optimal and shoot until the guy with the ships left at the end wins??, a battle is fluid if you are skillful and ppl warp in and out during the fight, you would actually know that if you had even the slightest clue about gang pvp.
Stick to blobbing when you have the numbers on your side and leeroying when you do not, its all you skilless morons are good for.
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Straight Chillen
Solar Wind Ministry Of Amarrian Secret Service
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Posted - 2008.05.09 14:28:00 -
[281]
Wow its cute BE have their own PR rep
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Graman
W33D Corp. SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.09 14:45:00 -
[282]
Originally by: lecrotta Edited by: lecrotta on 09/05/2008 14:24:27
Originally by: King Hopy
Originally by: lecrotta
Originally by: Draahkness The objective was not to sit cloaked until a lone target appeared but to attack anything (except really stupid odds like 5 vs 40 although we have done that too)
Did you win with odds of around 5 vs 40 cos BE did and the 40 they were fighting had a titan and caps in it....
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=712677
Im sorry if i burst you little "BE stay cloaked for 3 hours and pop the occasional solo muppet" delusion with that link.
The fact is that unless BE have changed since i left they use cloaks mostly to avoid getting probed out and uber blobbed its that simple, but they are also willing to fight massively outnumbered if theres even a small chance of winning or gaining a few kills without losses.
The difference is that you do not have the individual or teamwork pvp skill to do that so you make claims of "we love leeroying" to cover the fact that your unwilling to learn the skills because you risk failing and then you would not be able to fall back on the leeroy excuse.
Are u seriously trying to tell me that there was 5 vs 40 on the grid at the same time. Fighting small groups group by group doesnt count as fighting 5 vs 40.. Idiot.
You and your muppet blob alliance claimed that BE remains cloaked unless its a solo gank the thread posted clearly proves you are full of crap. Just because the guys organizing the attack on BE were as crap at pvp as you lot and had no idea how to fully coordinate their numbers is hardly BE's fault now is it???. BE were more than willing to fight those odds as the thread clearly shows and not only that they won the engagement and thats more than you bunch of tards have ever come close to doing.
Why is it that tards like you think a fight is when two sides sit at optimal and shoot until the guy with the ships left at the end wins??, a battle is fluid if you are skillful and ppl warp in and out during the fight, you would actually know that if you had even the slightest clue about gang pvp.
Stick to blobbing when you have the numbers on your side and leeroying when you do not, its all you skilless morons are good for.
can you leave us alone alredy muppet alt we don't give a **** what don't you understand are you one of those isk farmers do you need me to say it in chinese ?
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lecrotta
lecrotta Corp
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Posted - 2008.05.09 14:48:00 -
[283]
Originally by: Graman
can you leave us alone alredy muppet alt we don't give a **** what don't you understand are you one of those isk farmers do you need me to say it in chinese ?
Is your punctuation better in Chinese cos it sucks almost as bad as your pvp in English???.
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Graman
W33D Corp. SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.09 14:56:00 -
[284]
Originally by: lecrotta
Originally by: Graman
can you leave us alone alredy muppet alt we don't give a **** what don't you understand are you one of those isk farmers do you need me to say it in chinese ?
Is your punctuation better in Chinese cos it sucks almost as bad as your pvp in English???.
i play this game for fun you muppet you must be one of the great internet alt spaceship captians right ? omg get a life let the computer rest for a few minutes
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Trancestor
Seraphin Technologies Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2008.05.09 15:01:00 -
[285]
true words shin ra. gj
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lecrotta
lecrotta Corp
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Posted - 2008.05.09 15:03:00 -
[286]
Originally by: Graman
Originally by: lecrotta
Originally by: Graman
can you leave us alone alredy muppet alt we don't give a **** what don't you understand are you one of those isk farmers do you need me to say it in chinese ?
Is your punctuation better in Chinese cos it sucks almost as bad as your pvp in English???.
i play this game for fun you muppet you must be one of the great internet alt spaceship captians right ? omg get a life let the computer rest for a few minutes
I Captains Internet
Try to use spell checker if you wanna post bud it helps you look less like a total noobtard.
Anyway why should i stop helping you guys improve your pvp by posting corrections and helpful hints?.. although i must admit the temper tantrums from your tard pvpers is almost as much fun as popping your ships.
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Shurkon
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.05.09 15:17:00 -
[287]
Originally by: lecrotta
Originally by: Graman
Originally by: lecrotta
Originally by: Graman
can you leave us alone alredy muppet alt we don't give a **** what don't you understand are you one of those isk farmers do you need me to say it in chinese ?
Is your punctuation better in Chinese cos it sucks almost as bad as your pvp in English???.
i play this game for fun you muppet you must be one of the great internet alt spaceship captians right ? omg get a life let the computer rest for a few minutes
I Captains Internet
Try to use spell checker if you wanna post bud it helps you look less like a total noobtard.
Anyway why should i stop helping you guys improve your pvp by posting corrections and helpful hints?.. although i must admit the temper tantrums from your tard pvpers is almost as much fun as popping your ships.
If you're going to correct someone's spelling/grammar and include capitalizing the word "I", you should really use it correctly yourself in that same post.
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Graman
W33D Corp. SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.09 15:22:00 -
[288]
Originally by: lecrotta
Originally by: Graman
Originally by: lecrotta
Originally by: Graman
can you leave us alone alredy muppet alt we don't give a **** what don't you understand are you one of those isk farmers do you need me to say it in chinese ?
Is your punctuation better in Chinese cos it sucks almost as bad as your pvp in English???.
i play this game for fun you muppet you must be one of the great internet alt spaceship captians right ? omg get a life let the computer rest for a few minutes
Hello guys I am a uber internet spaceship alt capitan and I just OMFG owned you all in a spaceship game I am so the best xD`` , and do not forget I owned you whit my uber writing skills
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Lomas Barisa
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Posted - 2008.05.09 15:27:00 -
[289]
Originally by: lecrotta Nice attempt at fudging figures bud but pods do not get included as they are from killing ships so work out your figures without including the 228 pods and i think you will find a different percentage.
Ah yes, but then you would be counting those 'combat kills' twice. Fact remains that a pod is defenseless and should not be counted to boost stats. Note that I am not saying that they should not be killed (after all, they could have implants), but that it is nothing to brag about on the forums. Same with industrials and barges.
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zykerx
Pegasus Mining and Securities R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.09 15:37:00 -
[290]
bragging about stast vs smashkill is so 2007
every month there a new corp that cals themself uber pvpers while ganking solo players, usaly not gooing much furter then bwf so they can runn back to empire fast
mist the whole be thingh so cant coment much on that but seems is yust like the others .
"MY COMMENTS IN NO WAY REFLECT MY CORP OR ALLIANCE"
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Slinky Malinky
KDM Corp Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2008.05.09 16:06:00 -
[291]
You guys got me on the first day you where in BWF .. It was my own fault for not checking intel before jumping etc... Sounds like you all had fun so thats all that matters in the long run.
I do think it is a bit silly to judge the pvp prowness of the entire Smashkill entity from the numbers you posted.
From what I saw 90% of the pvp BE did was ganking single ships at the gate. I didnt hear much on the intel channels concerning BE. It was more of a inconvenience to people not traveling in a group. Anyways like I said if you had fun then thats all that matters. |
King Hopy
Beasts of Burden R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.09 16:16:00 -
[292]
Originally by: lecrotta
You and your muppet blob alliance claimed that BE remains cloaked unless its a solo gank the thread posted clearly proves you are full of crap. Just because the guys organizing the attack on BE were as crap at pvp as you lot and had no idea how to fully coordinate their numbers is hardly BE's fault now is it???. BE were more than willing to fight those odds as the thread clearly shows and not only that they won the engagement and thats more than you bunch of tards have ever come close to doing.
Why is it that tards like you think a fight is when two sides sit at optimal and shoot until the guy with the ships left at the end wins??, a battle is fluid if you are skillful and ppl warp in and out during the fight, you would actually know that if you had even the slightest clue about gang pvp.
Stick to blobbing when you have the numbers on your side and leeroying when you do not, its all you skilless morons are good for.
Sorry to burst your bubble but I didn't say burn eden allways remained cloaked if it wasn't a solo gank. I only addressed the fact that you stated that BE was fighting 5 vs 40 which clearly is not the case. And furthermore don't say anything about my or my corps pvp ability since apparentally you know nothing about it. Stop acting like BE is somekind of a pvp god, there are plenty of people in eve who are alot better than them in PVP and they dont need cloaks to do that.
Furthermore if you read some of the burn eden comments in this thread you will see themselves saying that they wont uncloak unless they have a chance of winning the fight without losing a ship. That doesnt sound like they like to engage when the odds aren't on their side. Furthermore not numbers alone tell you what are the odds for the battle...
First I thought that you are a burn eden alt, but frankly even they don't beat their own chests as much as you do.
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John Blackthorn
Foundation R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.09 16:27:00 -
[293]
Each person can manipulate the numbers to agree with there opinions on this matter however...
There is no denying that B.E. was effective in there contract against SmashKill and friends.
There tactics were fairly simple. Have ravens and even a rattlesnake sit 220km off the gate cloaked. With a hyena and saber nanoed out. I lost quite a few ships to them because was testing tactics and ship setups to counter them. Of course my favorte ship was to bring in my huggin's and I did manage to get a few of there support ships but getting there cloaked b.s. remained elusive.
Slings and other cloaking ships didn't work out as I had hoped.
I do have to say though that A lot of people just sucided against them because they were lazy and were not watching local, alliance, and intel channels. That's our biggest fault admitidly. One that I'm pretty sure we will correct after this experiance.
In the over-all fights though It dosn't effect us that much however looking at these stats.
-John
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Ridjeck Thome
The Older Gamers R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.09 16:31:00 -
[294]
buy a carrier and jump it straight past them like I did
in fact, good luck to BE, they have specialised in wht they do, and how they do it, its not how I would play eve, but its how theyve chosen to play this game.
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Banlish
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.09 16:39:00 -
[295]
Originally by: Dianabolic Nice stats once again.
Tip to smash et al pilots: Just say "well done", there's no mileage in commenting how much BE affected the life of the alliance because that isn't what they "do". Better to just learn, adapt and hand them their ass the next time they show up.
This.
Suggest letting the troll keep spewing his crap and let him go, he'll argue every point and keep this thread going. No one cares, it's already over and all of the losses were made up already. Even BE stopped commenting in this thread.
Want to hurt the troll? Stop replying to his posts. Eventually all the crap coming out of his mouth will drown him in his own excrement.
Atlas Head Diplomat CEO - Di-Tron Heavy Industries
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Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2008.05.09 16:51:00 -
[296]
Originally by: King Hopy there are plenty of people in eve who are alot better than them in PVP and they dont need cloaks to do that.
Yeah? Like who?
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thoth foc
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.05.09 16:58:00 -
[297]
Originally by: Shin Ra
Originally by: King Hopy there are plenty of people in eve who are alot better than them in PVP and they dont need cloaks to do that.
Yeah? Like who?
Hydra ------------------ x-DSMA (Menta) x-CA (OMEGA/BOS) x-.5.(ATUK) BOB (DICE) |
lecrotta
lecrotta Corp
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Posted - 2008.05.09 16:59:00 -
[298]
Edited by: lecrotta on 09/05/2008 17:04:33
Originally by: Banlish
Want to hurt the troll? Stop replying to his posts. Eventually all the crap coming out of his mouth will drown him in his own excrement.
WHOOOOAAA words can hurt feelings ya know and im a sensitive kinda fella, although considering the venom and bitterness in this post id say i have hurt your's a bit with my honest appraisal of your laughable pvp abilities..
PS: RK suck at pvp. |
lecrotta
lecrotta Corp
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Posted - 2008.05.09 17:01:00 -
[299]
Edited by: lecrotta on 09/05/2008 17:02:15
Originally by: thoth foc
Originally by: Shin Ra
Originally by: King Hopy there are plenty of people in eve who are alot better than them in PVP and they dont need cloaks to do that.
Yeah? Like who?
Hydra
Yup they taught BE everything they know, i was there, i know, i saw it and they woz fekin uberly.
PS: RK suck at pvp. |
King Hopy
Beasts of Burden R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.09 17:06:00 -
[300]
Edited by: King Hopy on 09/05/2008 17:05:59 Deadly Addiction, PL, ev0ke, SoT ... to name a few groups I respect.
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Zathi Shaitan
Minmatar Illiteracy Combatants
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Posted - 2008.05.09 17:15:00 -
[301]
Originally by: Peoke
And yes i have to much time just for you shinra
Use your spare time to learn the difference between "to" and "too".
Friendly hint: www.dict.org is your friend.
---- " Several unconventional alliances where made at that point " - Hey CCP, "where" != "were".. you too, Brutus? http://loseloose.com/ |
icstunna
Shadows of the Dead R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.09 17:18:00 -
[302]
Edited by: icstunna on 09/05/2008 17:19:53 Alright fact of the matter is BE, is good at what they do; and that is capitalizing.
You guys openly admit that you wont decloak if there's ANY chance of losing a single ship. This prevents all forms of good fight and really only leaves blue balls. We would attack you guys with equal number of ships but if there's something you dont like you guys wont decloak.
BE is very good at capitalizing a situation, while you guys were in geminate our fleets were off fighting an enemy that threatens our existance. This left the carebears who dont watch local, and the less then "stellar" FC's. You guys definately must of had a hoot out of that.
Really the only times i saw you guys decloak is when there's a juicy freighter to bait you guys, a gang that shouldn't engage you because it lacks the electronic warfare to counter yours, or when its a lone target.
BE i genuinely applaud you in your tactics, its a sound and safe tactic that you seem to have alot of fun with; but how about raising your heart rate every now and then and trying a good fight? Either way, for the times we did engage, good fight and good luck on your next campaign.
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Tenebrys
Havoc Violence and Chaos R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.09 17:36:00 -
[303]
yeah makes you wonder what they mean when the talk about "incredible odds" if they mean "incredible chance that we lose this fight" or "incredible ratio of ratting ravens to be ships at primetime in geminate"
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patchy999
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Posted - 2008.05.09 17:37:00 -
[304]
Edited by: patchy999 on 09/05/2008 17:37:57 wrong alt stupid default settings ffs!!!!
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posteroid
im right your wrong
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Posted - 2008.05.09 17:38:00 -
[305]
Edited by: posteroid on 09/05/2008 17:39:14 Actually BE will not decloak if its obvious we will lose a ship/ships but the difference between that and only decloaking for a solo gank is considerably larger than with every other corp and alliance in eve due to the skill and team work of the pilots in BE.
The reason why this statement is true is because quite simply we are better than you and so we can engage much greater numbers than you could ever manage and we do so most of the time successfully.
Now the only thing that is stopping you from training up and learning in gang, in game skills to build skilled units in your corps and alliances is you. So suck it up stop making silly excuses and learn some pvp skills cos i can guarantee that the first time you wipe out a larger better equipped gang without taking a single loss you will consider it worth the time you spent training.
PS: I am posting with a alt cos my main is banned for posting pictures.
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ghost st
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Posted - 2008.05.09 17:39:00 -
[306]
Originally by: zykerx bragging about stast vs smashkill is so 2007
every month there a new corp that cals themself uber pvpers while ganking solo players, usaly not gooing much furter then bwf so they can runn back to empire fast
mist the whole be thingh so cant coment much on that but seems is yust like the others
lol, so you just admitted the only thing you can do is blob. OMG they wont attack our blobz!!!!, cheaterz!
BE are only in it for kills and lulz.
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USN CVN72
Caldari Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.09 17:39:00 -
[307]
Ding Ding USN Arriving.
Let me say this one more time. Burn Eden is SO YESTERDAY NEWS!!!
Get over yourselves dudes. You are only posting about how SmashKill sucks because you are not getting the attention you so desire in Eve.
Why don't you post when you make a serious attempt to take over our space. Come back in 1 month when you actually take over BWF replace our tower's with your own and claim the station with the Burn Eden Flag.
Burn Eden is so YESTERDAY NEWS bring it or move on...
Oh by the way TRI is by far more superior then Burn Eden will ever be... RK/Smash enjoyed the pressure that TRI brought when they looked for targets in BWF. They had class and showed us many lessons on combat tactics and excitement. Burn Eden only managed to sit at gates and look for ganks. Nothing impressive at all just typical scavengers.
Ding Ding USN Departing.
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Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2008.05.09 17:40:00 -
[308]
Originally by: King Hopy Edited by: King Hopy on 09/05/2008 17:05:59 Deadly Addiction, PL, ev0ke, SoT ... to name a few groups I respect.
Respect /= great PVPers.
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posteroid
im right your wrong
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Posted - 2008.05.09 17:46:00 -
[309]
Originally by: USN CVN72 Ding Ding USN Arriving.
Let me say this one more time. Burn Eden is SO YESTERDAY NEWS!!!
Get over yourselves dudes. You are only posting about how SmashKill sucks because you are not getting the attention you so desire in Eve.
Why don't you post when you make a serious attempt to take over our space. Come back in 1 month when you actually take over BWF replace our tower's with your own and claim the station with the Burn Eden Flag.
Burn Eden is so YESTERDAY NEWS bring it or move on...
Oh by the way TRI is by far more superior then Burn Eden will ever be... RK/Smash enjoyed the pressure that TRI brought when they looked for targets in BWF. They had class and showed us many lessons on combat tactics and excitement. Burn Eden only managed to sit at gates and look for ganks. Nothing impressive at all just typical scavengers.
Ding Ding USN Departing.
Do you honestly think that we would ever consider getting involved in skilless laggy blob warfare when most of us joined BE cos we were sick of it in the first place???. We leave the blob wars to skilless muppets like you.
Fyi using the phrase "YESTERDAYS NEWS" a lot makes you look like a total tard. Just thought you should know.
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lecrotta
lecrotta Corp
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Posted - 2008.05.09 17:50:00 -
[310]
Originally by: USN CVN72 Ding Ding USN Arriving.
Let me say this one more time. Burn Eden is SO YESTERDAY NEWS!!!
Get over yourselves dudes. You are only posting about how SmashKill sucks because you are not getting the attention you so desire in Eve.
Why don't you post when you make a serious attempt to take over our space. Come back in 1 month when you actually take over BWF replace our tower's with your own and claim the station with the Burn Eden Flag.
Burn Eden is so YESTERDAY NEWS bring it or move on...
Oh by the way TRI is by far more superior then Burn Eden will ever be... RK/Smash enjoyed the pressure that TRI brought when they looked for targets in BWF. They had class and showed us many lessons on combat tactics and excitement. Burn Eden only managed to sit at gates and look for ganks. Nothing impressive at all just typical scavengers.
Ding Ding USN Departing.
Cos blobbing is such measure of skill ain't it bud. Maybe you should use some of the mad skills you learned fom tri to kick BE's butt.
PS: RK suck at pvp. |
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Colje
Priory Of The Lemon R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.09 17:52:00 -
[311]
Die thread DIE!
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lecrotta
lecrotta Corp
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Posted - 2008.05.09 17:53:00 -
[312]
Originally by: Colje Die thread DIE!
That'll help lol.
PS: RK suck at pvp. |
USN CVN72
Caldari Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.09 18:25:00 -
[313]
Edited by: USN CVN72 on 09/05/2008 18:25:58
Originally by: lecrotta
Originally by: USN CVN72 Ding Ding USN Arriving.
Let me say this one more time. Burn Eden is SO YESTERDAY NEWS!!!
Get over yourselves dudes. You are only posting about how SmashKill sucks because you are not getting the attention you so desire in Eve.
Why don't you post when you make a serious attempt to take over our space. Come back in 1 month when you actually take over BWF replace our tower's with your own and claim the station with the Burn Eden Flag.
Burn Eden is so YESTERDAY NEWS bring it or move on...
Oh by the way TRI is by far more superior then Burn Eden will ever be... RK/Smash enjoyed the pressure that TRI brought when they looked for targets in BWF. They had class and showed us many lessons on combat tactics and excitement. Burn Eden only managed to sit at gates and look for ganks. Nothing impressive at all just typical scavengers.
Ding Ding USN Departing.
Cos blobbing is such measure of skill ain't it bud. Maybe you should use some of the mad skills you learned fom tri to kick BE's butt.
Ding Ding USN Arriving.
Wait - IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT Burn Eden is now complaining about getting blobbed? oh wow you are more nuubs then i thought. For your info every alliance holding space will blob you in 0.0 - you tell us that we are nuubs for blobbing and defending our space then you will say the same to RA, GOONS, BOB, TRI, RAZOR, AAA, FIX, SOLAR FLEET, IC, PURE and every other 0.0 alliance holding space including the ones you are set BLUE and call your close friends. Do you dare to smack talk and complain about your own friends blobbing??? Look inward before you complain and you will see deep in your own ranks and history that you fall victim to using blob tactics as well. If you have the inability to look deep into your own history ill go back 5yrs and do it for you and prove you did the same crap as everyone else is doing.
Cheers nuubs.
Ding Ding USN Departing.
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lecrotta
lecrotta Corp
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Posted - 2008.05.09 18:32:00 -
[314]
Edited by: lecrotta on 09/05/2008 18:34:22
Originally by: lecrotta
Cos blobbing is such measure of skill ain't it bud. Maybe you should use some of the mad skills you learned fom tri to kick BE's butt.
Originally by: USN CVN72
Ding Ding USN Arriving.
Wait - IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT Burn Eden is now complaining about getting blobbed? oh wow you are more nuubs then i thought. For your info every alliance holding space will blob you in 0.0 - you tell us that we are nuubs for blobbing and defending our space then you will say the same to RA, GOONS, BOB, TRI, RAZOR, AAA, FIX, SOLAR FLEET, IC, PURE and every other 0.0 alliance holding space including the ones you are set BLUE and call your close friends. Do you dare to smack talk and complain about your own friends blobbing??? Look inward before you complain and you will see deep in your own ranks and history that you fall victim to using blob tactics as well. If you have the inability to look deep into your own history ill go back 5yrs and do it for you and prove you did the same crap as everyone else is doing.
Cheers nuubs.
Ding Ding USN Departing.
You need to learn how to read you tard as i clearly state that 1. im no longer with BE, and 2. Where am i be complaining about getting blobbed???? learn how to read and get over your bitterness at getting owned you will feel better for it.
PS: RK suck at pvp. |
Crackzilla
The Shadow Order SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.09 18:38:00 -
[315]
Edited by: *****zilla on 09/05/2008 18:42:50
Originally by: USN CVN72 Burn Eden is now complaining about getting blobbed?
(technically either an alt or a rabid fan)
I for one feel outblobbed when I ignore intel channels and jump a t1 hauler in with no tank nor scouts. I might be carrying a few bil worth of mins but I'm just looking for a fair fight!
Everyone blobs. The only disagreement is about the numbers. Bring lots of ships and you blob. Bring the right ships (ie logistics + webbers) and someone will feel out blobbed.
Originally by: USN CVN72 ... and prove you did the same crap as everyone else is doing.
But they're special and unique snowflakes!
Originally by: lecrotta ... <weak smack>...
Haven't you discovered our secret yet? The FVCKAS war machine is powered by 100% pure COAD angst! We need moar moar moar!!!!
If COAD doesn't have a NAST thread on the first page, we'll disappear!
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lecrotta
lecrotta Corp
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Posted - 2008.05.09 18:46:00 -
[316]
Originally by: *****zilla
I for one feel outblobbed when I ignore intel channels and jump a t1 hauler in with no tank nor scouts. I might be carrying a few bil worth of mins but I'm just looking for a fair fight!.
Personally if i ignore intel channels and jump into a 500 or even a 5 man gate camp with a unarmed or armed ship id consider it my own stupid fault as the fleet/blob was there already so if i was daft enough to jump into it its my fault.
Now on the other hand if i am watching intel channels and see that theres a 5 man camp on a gate and i sit around ganging ppl up for 2 hours (when we had enough after the first 5 minutes if we had good pvp skills) until i get 70 or 80 ppl (enough to feel safe) and then make stupid claims when the 5 will not engage id consider that blobbing.
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BLOOD THIRSTY
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.05.09 18:49:00 -
[317]
I am going to "TRY" to give a balanced reply to this thread, and some observations I have seen.
1) Groups supporting BE- BoB, PL, MC, Insurgency, Tri, -A-
2) Groups supporting Smash/Kill - Smash, alts, Roadkill, alts, Atlas (I dont know who these guys are), and more alts.
3) The plain and simple truth. What Burn Eden does is take 5 guys and try to engage 20-30 or more. Be honest with yourself for a minute folks, when was the last time you flew in a group less than 20? I cant remember the last time I saw HED-GP without 30 reds, or 40 blues in local camping the empire gate. So they try and most of the time kill a few heavily outnumbered.
Now yes there are times when a lone target comes and it dies to a "gank". They are not going to let someone autopilot through.
NOW comes the good part. Having watched them multiple times, I can tell you that looking at their killboard is missleading. (Stop jumping up and down RK, im not done yet) You will see kills where 4 of them are on a single mail... gee they focus fire go figure. However then the next kill is a minute later. This is because theyu warp in on a group at range. Kill some, warp out. Regroup and do it again. It is very difficult to engage so heavily outnumbered as they do. Sometimes they warp in and cant kill anything before 20 nanos are on em, or an arazu decloaks next to them , good memories.
The point I am trying to make is that Burn Eden can take a 5 man gang and engage an empire. I havent seen anything like it in all my time in EvE. People love them, and love to hate them. And as it seems the "good pvp alliances" that people seem to respect, respect Burn Eden for their abilities. This cannot be denied. They are good, choice of tactics is personal. No one tactic is better than anyone elses, the only difference is the pilots, and they have some of the best.
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Tenebrys
Havoc Violence and Chaos R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.09 19:00:00 -
[318]
your right i think vanilla guerrilla warfare tactics are what this 'zero zero' is all about doing
it doesnt matter whether an alliance is able to say hold space
or defend space
or leave lasting impressions on the galaxy
if you shoot something and run away and try to convince yourself that what you shot wont get rebuilt and that life wont go on anymore and that you just 'burned eden'
you win at eve
right
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lecrotta
lecrotta Corp
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Posted - 2008.05.09 19:06:00 -
[319]
Originally by: Tenebrys your right i think vanilla guerrilla warfare tactics are what this 'zero zero' is all about doing
it doesnt matter whether an alliance is able to say hold space
or defend space
or leave lasting impressions on the galaxy
if you shoot something and run away and try to convince yourself that what you shot wont get rebuilt and that life wont go on anymore and that you just 'burned eden'
you win at eve
right
Bitter much.
Its about having pride in how skillfully you can fly your ship and how well you work as a team with BE unless things have changed since i left for a bit of nano fun.
While holding space is all about the numbers so props for your uber recruiting skills its what eve is all about.
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Crackzilla
The Shadow Order SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.09 19:14:00 -
[320]
Originally by: BLOOD THIRSTY
Now yes there are times when a lone target comes and it dies to a "gank". They are not going to let someone autopilot through.
These were the vast majority of their kills.
Originally by: BLOOD THIRSTY
NOW comes the good part. Having watched them multiple times,
Agree that they've gotten their tactics down pat. However much of the kills I watched were unorganized folks being ganked or flying solo. Often a few would jump in. It might seem to be a gang. Most often it would be ppl flying individually without a gang or voice coms and getting the expected results.
Originally by: BLOOD THIRSTY
The point I am trying to make is that Burn Eden can take a 5 man gang and engage an empire.
Maybe bore an empire. The primary difference between what they do and what thousands of others do is they play often, have their tactics down pat, and make repeated COAD posts.
During the time that BE were in Geminate there were dozens of other gangs flying nanos/cloakers/etc. They received about the same amount of attention as BE. They killed many of the same people. An adhoc group would often be formed to go after the hostiles. The hostiles had the same affect: not much.
The primary difference was that BE is more patient for kills and makes CAOD posts when finished. They seem to leave a mistaken impression of their effect.
Originally by: BLOOD THIRSTY They are good, choice of tactics is personal. No one tactic is better than anyone elses, the only difference is the pilots, and they have some of the best.
No doubt they are good. However they're overrated. They make smacktastic posts about stats that are obvious to everyone. If they wanted to talk about a campaign and give themselves a pat on the back, fine.
These posts are mostly because they seem to feel that if they don't talk themselves up they'll be forgotten and won't receive contracts. This isn't a COAD issue. These types of posts belong in the "Sell Orders" forums.
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Tenebrys
Havoc Violence and Chaos R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.09 19:15:00 -
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Edited by: Tenebrys on 09/05/2008 19:16:43 nice sig btw very clever
fyi repeating burn eden never caught me
or anyone in my corp if kb is accurate
maybe im unfamiliar with combat things being supply side etc
but making vagabonds and t2 cruise missiles launchers
requires stuff like alliances that dont, you know, warp away then warp to 150
stuff like that
far as im concerned
we hold space
and use it to make stuff
if no one held space mined dysprosium etc
no t2 nanofiber
so no
running around and feeling like your awesome because of how fast you double click on empty space or hit 'warp to 150km' isnt what 'zero zero' is all about
have to hold space too fight for it mine moons take away poses etc
icky but someone has to do it
far as im concerned no dishonor in doing a necessary job
subject of disagreement
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Ghengis Khan
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2008.05.09 19:56:00 -
[322]
nice stats, classic.
hey kick, hey mark.
nice u still smack like in good old times :)
P.
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Porgy
Foundation R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.09 20:00:00 -
[323]
mods must have taken a vacation on this flame bait. Seriously, 11 pages of a lot of people making themselves look stupid. _______________________
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lecrotta
lecrotta Corp
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Posted - 2008.05.09 20:07:00 -
[324]
Originally by: Porgy mods must have taken a vacation on this flame bait. Seriously, 11 pages of a lot of people making themselves look stupid.
Now your here id say the thread has reached tard critical mass and it can be locked then.
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Peoke
Caldari Unknown Shoe Corp. SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.09 20:20:00 -
[325]
the days of burn eden playing for the fight or fighting out numberedd are over. go check shinras own mouth of contracts a long time ago, they were alot more kills with alot more losses. now all they do is sit cloaked and gank. a low sec gate will get me the same kills or sitting in d-i. Its not pvp its not anything.
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lecrotta
lecrotta Corp
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Posted - 2008.05.09 20:34:00 -
[326]
Originally by: Peoke the days of burn eden playing for the fight or fighting out numberedd are over. go check shinras own mouth of contracts a long time ago, they were alot more kills with alot more losses. now all they do is sit cloaked and gank. a low sec gate will get me the same kills or sitting in d-i. Its not pvp its not anything.
I think you should go ganking a bit tbh bud as 350 ish kills since 2006 is about what our top killer gets every month (if we have a slow month) from our roaming gangs and i know BE kill around as much as we do.
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FinrodFelagund
Rome
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Posted - 2008.05.09 21:13:00 -
[327]
Originally by: BLOOD THIRSTY I am going to "TRY" to give a balanced reply to this thread, and some observations I have seen.
I've never seen somone attempt at something and fail so hard in my life.
And for the record I doubt BE engages anyone that attacks them in 20 man blob format.
The fact of the matter is that cloaks allow you to always be the aggressor. It is probably the only equalizer in the game currently for defense against blobage.
And in eve, the aggresser ALWAYS wins. (if they have scouts) and BE does.
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Bashiri
Point-Zero SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.09 21:15:00 -
[328]
OK this thread still alive?
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Crackzilla
The Shadow Order SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.09 21:26:00 -
[329]
Yes. BE systematically remove most any risk.
Einherjar Rising was the group we were trying to think of. Remote rep bs gangs in bwf. The threads then were nearly identical to the one now.
Dealing with cloakers is boring and not worth the effort. Best way to deal with cloakers that are sometimes afk is to ignore them and bypass the system.
Originally by: FinrodFelagund
I've never seen somone attempt at something and fail so hard in my life.
Eh, wasn't that bad. Just someone in the grips of propaganda fever.
Originally by: Bashiri OK this thread still alive?
No.
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lecrotta
lecrotta Corp
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Posted - 2008.05.09 21:41:00 -
[330]
Originally by: FinrodFelagund
Originally by: BLOOD THIRSTY I am going to "TRY" to give a balanced reply to this thread, and some observations I have seen.
And for the record I doubt BE engages anyone that attacks them in 20 man blob format.
http://smack.griefwatch.net/?p=engagement&kill=17507 = 8 BE (4BS) vs 18....
http://smack.griefwatch.net/?p=engagement&kill=17393 = 4 BE (1BS) vs 11.....
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=712677 = 8 BE (4BS) vs 40 inc capital support and a titan.....
Now it would have taken a few warp out and warpins (ie; The not sitting still and getting popped like a moron tactic non morons use) but these clearly show a more than willingness to fight while outnumbered. |
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SugarDaddy
Caldari Comando Vermelho R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.09 22:06:00 -
[331]
Lecrota, you are right
They came they saw they conquered us......NOT
Actually its amazing how every other week smashkill get wftbbqed in geminate by "insert random alliance name" and the "insert random alliance name" come to caod and make a kl ration topic.
The truth is few ppl have the muscle or the guts to TRY to remove us from our space and you guys are not among em.
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lecrotta
lecrotta Corp
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Posted - 2008.05.09 22:11:00 -
[332]
Originally by: SugarDaddy
The truth is few ppl have the muscle or the guts to TRY to remove us from our space and you guys are not among em.
Actually the truth is that most high spec pvp corps could not care less about holding or taking space but it gives ppl like you a reason to post "come and take our space if you think your hard enough" morale boost postings after getting owned for a few weeks buy them.
PS: RK suck at pvp. |
zykerx
Pegasus Mining and Securities R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.09 22:15:00 -
[333]
Originally by: ghost st
Originally by: zykerx bragging about stast vs smashkill is so 2007
every month there a new corp that cals themself uber pvpers while ganking solo players, usaly not gooing much furter then bwf so they can runn back to empire fast
mist the whole be thingh so cant coment much on that but seems is yust like the others
lol, so you just admitted the only thing you can do is blob. OMG they wont attack our blobz!!!!, cheaterz!
BE are only in it for kills and lulz.
wow stupid noob you are, i never mentioned a blob
it yust that when we come with even numbers or even close to even most people wont engage and or runn away or cloak and wait for a 5-1 advantadge .
"MY COMMENTS IN NO WAY REFLECT MY CORP OR ALLIANCE"
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SugarDaddy
Caldari Comando Vermelho R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.09 22:19:00 -
[334]
Originally by: lecrotta
Originally by: SugarDaddy
The truth is few ppl have the muscle or the guts to TRY to remove us from our space and you guys are not among em.
Actually the truth is that most high spec pvp corps could not care less about holding or taking space but it gives ppl like you a reason to post "come and take our space if you think your hard enough" morale boost postings after getting owned for a few weeks buy them.
oh yeah and cloaking ships or nano*****s are certainly amoung those uber pvp corps...
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King Hopy
Beasts of Burden R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.09 22:23:00 -
[335]
Originally by: lecrotta
Originally by: FinrodFelagund
Originally by: BLOOD THIRSTY I am going to "TRY" to give a balanced reply to this thread, and some observations I have seen.
And for the record I doubt BE engages anyone that attacks them in 20 man blob format.
http://smack.griefwatch.net/?p=engagement&kill=17507 = 8 BE (4BS) vs 18....
http://smack.griefwatch.net/?p=engagement&kill=17393 = 4 BE (1BS) vs 11.....
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=712677 = 8 BE (4BS) vs 40 inc capital support and a titan.....
Now it would have taken a few warp out and warpins (ie; The not sitting still and getting popped like a moron tactic non morons use) but these clearly show a more than willingness to fight while outnumbered.
First engagement, over an hour. Second around half an hour. Now check the kill's on the first engagement, wow how come they are so far apart ? Because it wasn't a single group fighting them?
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Faekurias
Cash Money Brothers R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.09 22:28:00 -
[336]
I thought this was a Solar poast, I was wrong. And good that, Solar <3 Sig locked, abuse of use - for more information mail [email protected] |
lecrotta
lecrotta Corp
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Posted - 2008.05.09 22:59:00 -
[337]
Edited by: lecrotta on 09/05/2008 23:04:55
Originally by: King Hopy
Originally by: lecrotta
http://smack.griefwatch.net/?p=engagement&kill=17507 = 8 BE (4BS) vs 18....
http://smack.griefwatch.net/?p=engagement&kill=17393 = 4 BE (1BS) vs 11.....
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=712677 = 8 BE (4BS) vs 40 inc capital support and a titan.....
Now it would have taken a few warp out and warpins (ie; The not sitting still and getting popped like a moron tactic non morons use) but these clearly show a more than willingness to fight while outnumbered.
First engagement, over an hour. Second around half an hour. Now check the kill's on the first engagement, wow how come they are so far apart ? Because it wasn't a single group fighting them?
Erm ok bud i know you guys just blob and sit there until the guys with the most or only ships left wins but ppl who have even a modicum of skill actually warp in and out to avoid getting popped especially if they are heavily outnumbered.
These are called "basic gang tactics" so i understand if you are unfamiliar with them......
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BLOOD THIRSTY
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.05.09 23:27:00 -
[338]
Burning EvE
Check out the last fight in this vid, as far as I know it was from this campaign. Also BE is known to fly Navy Megas Navy Ravens Machariels Rattlesnakes Nightmares
That is out of the ordinary as far as know. Meh anyway let this thread die, watch his vid and decide for yourselves. No more need for everyone to flame each other. To each their own all are entitled to what they believe is right and best.
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USN CVN72
Caldari Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.10 01:03:00 -
[339]
Edited by: USN CVN72 on 10/05/2008 01:03:17 as i said many times Burn Eden is old news. Who gives a crap we all know they decided to start this thread because they have not gotten the attention they desire and they needed to pat themselves on the back. now lets get back to playing the game or im going to puke into the wind.
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SSgt Sniper
Gallente MAIDS
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Posted - 2008.05.10 01:06:00 -
[340]
Originally by: SATAN
Originally by: Tyremis hahahaha i wont be baited by a guy that flys a Raven sry dude try harder
You seem to have a selective loss posting attitude, here let me help you a bit.
http://www.battleclinic.com/eve_online/pk/view/player-Tyremis-kills.html
Here is your ENTIRE eve life record. And it seems like the majority of your kills are in fleet battles where as we all know competence is surpassed by blind allegiance.
111 kills 44 losses
Please crawl back under the rock you came from.
Spoken like a man who warps his raven off when faced by people in ships that are SUPPOSED to cloak.
I've never seen a isk farmer run away that fast. ------- CEO of Maids. No I didn't pick the name. I've grown rather fond of it though.
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lecrotta
lecrotta Corp
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Posted - 2008.05.10 01:59:00 -
[341]
Originally by: USN CVN72
as i said many times Burn Eden is old news. Who gives a crap we all know they decided to start this thread because they have not gotten the attention they desire and they needed to pat themselves on the back. now lets get back to playing the game or im going to puke into the wind.
You mean you actually stopped playing the game just to post here?.
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USN CVN72
Caldari Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.10 02:29:00 -
[342]
Originally by: lecrotta
Originally by: USN CVN72
as i said many times Burn Eden is old news. Who gives a crap we all know they decided to start this thread because they have not gotten the attention they desire and they needed to pat themselves on the back. now lets get back to playing the game or im going to puke into the wind.
You mean you actually stopped playing the game just to post here?.
yes sir i did because my multitasking ability is not as uber as you.
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Angor
BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2008.05.10 04:03:00 -
[343]
Edited by: Angor on 10/05/2008 04:03:04 lol nearly 13 pages my god wtf. double pages than ur cap fight r@pe _______________________________ [ 2007.06.07 21:07:22 ] FrankyWave > ransom me guys I am joining XElas !!! |
Tyremis
Spartan Industrial Manufacturing SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.10 04:13:00 -
[344]
^^ your right it should be half that as all your responses should be cloaked.
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Darineah Charach
Minmatar Antares Fleet Yards SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.10 11:15:00 -
[345]
I agree, this thread should die...but it's like the game i just gotta, you know?
Anyway, i see this argument really as about playstyles more than anything. I am a member of a 0.0 space holding alliance and people may not like that part of the game but i do, that's why i'm there, and i daresay the several thousand people in our collective alliances feel the same way. That's fine, we're allowed to. Its a game and people can play it any way they like.
BE like to play the game their way, which is also fine. It's a game, they can play it any way they like.
The problem arises as i see it when we get judged by the other guys standard. Judging by BE's standards, we got wtfbbq'd i won't deny that. By our standards however it's a completely different story.
The simple reason none of our leading FC's or even the majority of the FVCKAS PVP force didn't respond is...BE just wasn't a threat.
A few years ago, when i started playing this game, a BE gatecamp could legitimately bring an alliance to it's knees. Cap's were rare, JB's and jump freighters didn't exist so entry pipes were vital. Nowadays, anything important just gets jumped in so the pipes have lost their importance. Nowadays, if you want to threaten a space holding alliance, you have to threaten it's space, not it's pilots. And BE don't do that, they've stated many times they don't want to play that way. That's fine, but accept the fact that really, in the modern game, it makes you irrelevant.
Other organisations, just like you, have seen the way the games eveolved and in a desire to remain relevant, have adapted accordingly.
This post isn't designed to be smacky (not completely anyway :P), just to point out to you that if you want to 'hurt us' you have to adapt as well.
Otherwise, all these posts you make about how BRUCE suck or SMASHKILL suck, is just a rather sad attempt to stay relevant in a game that's left you behind.
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Trask Kilraen
The Older Gamers R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.10 12:15:00 -
[346]
"The simple reason none of our leading FC's or even the majority of the FVCKAS PVP force didn't respond is...BE just wasn't a threat. "
Bingo.... most of the PVPers just don'tcare about BE camping some random gate in cloakers... I mean, who gives a ....
BE wants to get lolz poppin carebears in cloakers and coming to CAOD yelling "PWNed!", then be my guest. But it's a bit sad TBQFH
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posteroid
im right your wrong
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Posted - 2008.05.10 12:21:00 -
[347]
Edited by: posteroid on 10/05/2008 12:22:33
It is quite interesting how a carebear with his feelings hurt cos of this thread and the recent BE campaign responds, i personally like the "irrelevant" and "modern game" comments as they have just the hint of anger and a obvious need to inflict retribution while dismissing the obvious injury the BE campaign and this thread has had on your ego's.
No small squad pvp corp or alliance has the ability to truly financially hurt a huge nap fest of alliances like RK/atlas and co (unless you catch a muppet moving said alliances BPO's or such), only another huge nap fest has the ability to do that by taking away their space, BE/TI and all of eve understand this. Now this has been true since the first multi thousand player alliance/nap was formed and has not changed in years so the comments like "modern game" and "remaining relevant" not only have no basis in fact but are also an amusing and unoriginal attempt to salvage a modicum of pride.
BE/TI is partly about causing ppl grief, making isk from loot but mostly about being successful at what we do, it is a gathering of like minded perfectionists who consider a loss of a ship in 0.0 unacceptable no matter the reason or odds. On a individual level we are highly successful at these goals and comments made by our victims claiming not to care about losses have been bandied about eve since the beginning of the game and will probably continue until the final hour of eves existence and give ppl plenty of lulz until then.
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culdor
Demonic Retribution Un-Natural Selection
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Posted - 2008.05.10 12:46:00 -
[348]
lol nice stats.. but Im amazed to see no-cap kills at all.. Knowing these guys you def. should have popped carrier or 2
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Darineah Charach
Minmatar Antares Fleet Yards SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.10 13:04:00 -
[349]
Edited by: Darineah Charach on 10/05/2008 13:05:37
Originally by: posteroid Edited by: posteroid on 10/05/2008 12:22:33
It is quite interesting how a carebear with his feelings hurt cos of this thread and the recent BE campaign responds, i personally like the "irrelevant" and "modern game" comments as they have just the hint of anger and a obvious need to inflict retribution while dismissing the obvious injury the BE campaign and this thread has had on your ego's.
Don't rat, mine or even NPC much so not much of a carebear personally. As for feelings hurt, nope not that either. Retribution? For what? You didn't kill me. Before you make the claim that you killed my alt...My sec status won't let me into Jita etc so i have an alt that does that for me. His names Romeril Tanassian, didn't kill him either. In fact, if you're so fond of KB proof, look me up on yours. See for yourself.
No small squad pvp corp or alliance has the ability to truly financially hurt a huge nap fest of alliances like RK/atlas and co (unless you catch a muppet moving said alliances BPO's or such), only another huge nap fest has the ability to do that by taking away their space, BE/TI and all of eve understand this. Now this has been true since the first multi thousand player alliance/nap was formed and has not changed in years so the comments like "modern game" and "remaining relevant" not only have no basis in fact but are also an amusing and unoriginal attempt to salvage a modicum of pride.
Actually, you're wrong there. Like i said there are organisations out there who operate on a relatively small scale and are still able to make larger forces stand up and take notice. BE just isn't one of them, hell if you can't even make SMASH care (aside from the rest) that's gotta be proof in itself doesn't it?
BE/TI is partly about causing ppl grief, making isk from loot but mostly about being successful at what we do, it is a gathering of like minded perfectionists who consider a loss of a ship in 0.0 unacceptable no matter the reason or odds. On a individual level we are highly successful at these goals and comments made by our victims claiming not to care about losses have been bandied about eve since the beginning of the game and will probably continue until the final hour of eves existence and give ppl plenty of lulz until then.
Not arguing with any of that, in fact i said somewhere that i agree BE are extremely good at what they do. My point was simply that bragging about how awesome you are when you don't even register with the majority of the alliances.. is kinda sad.
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posteroid
im right your wrong
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Posted - 2008.05.10 13:39:00 -
[350]
WOW defensive much??.
Originally by: Darineah Charach
Don't rat, mine or even NPC much so not much of a carebear personally. As for feelings hurt, nope not that either. Retribution? For what? You didn't kill me. Before you make the claim that you killed my alt...My sec status won't let me into Jita etc so i have an alt that does that for me. His names Romeril Tanassian, didn't kill him either. In fact, if you're so fond of KB proof, look me up on yours. See for yourself.
And yet you felt the need to post "WE dont care about those losses anyway" and "you do not matter to us or eve anymore" comments.
Originally by: Darineah Charach
Like i said there are organisations out there who operate on a relatively small scale and are still able to make larger forces stand up and take notice. BE just isn't one of them, hell if you can't even make SMASH care (aside from the rest) that's gotta be proof in itself doesn't it? My point was simply that bragging about how awesome you are when you don't even register with the majority of the alliances.. is kinda sad.
Id sure love to know who these other organization's are that run 5-10 man gangs and cause you huge nap fest boys such grief can you please reveal to us there names and tell us how they manage to hurt you so much with only 5 or so ppl.
And yes i can see 12 pages of smash and others telling us that they do not care about the losses over and over and over and over 12 full pages of "protesting too much me thinks".
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Angor
BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2008.05.10 13:49:00 -
[351]
Originally by: culdor lol nice stats.. but Im amazed to see no-cap kills at all.. Knowing these guys you def. should have popped carrier or 2
Yeah we nearly did a few suicidal carriers and 1 mental dread pilot all warped to gates we were on at seperate occasions, unfortunatly with only 2-3 bs's we didnt have the DPS to kill them before ppl would arive to save them. We did have the dread pilot held on a gate for 40 minutes while he sat there in siege tanking us, firing siege missiles at our tacklers lol, ebay toon or what? _______________________________ [ 2007.06.07 21:07:22 ] FrankyWave > ransom me guys I am joining XElas !!! |
Darineah Charach
Minmatar Antares Fleet Yards SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.10 13:50:00 -
[352]
Can we leave out the 'over 12 full pages of "protesting too much me thinks".' argument? Cos it goes both ways, there's also 12 odd pages of BE and friends protesting about how awesome they are.
Also, don't get pedantic in your arguments. Yes i said 'we' don't care. My response of 'you didn't kill me' was in reply to you talking about me specifically. I'm certain the guys who lost their ships were plenty annoyed. But the alliances as a whole...not so much.
My point is a simple one. I repeat, BE are extremely good at what they do but the days where their activities warrented a CAOD post and actually made a difference to the organisations they took on, are gone.
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Nizar
Foundation R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.10 14:01:00 -
[353]
Originally by: posteroid And yes i can see 12 pages of smash and others telling us that they do not care about the losses over and over and over and over 12 full pages of "protesting too much me thinks".
hey i protest just to keep this thread alive. its another nice dTja vu BWF thread made by mediocre corp who tries to convince others that with their little contracts they still have some kind of impact on 0.0 life. MC thought the same and... ohh oops
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posteroid
im right your wrong
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Posted - 2008.05.10 14:02:00 -
[354]
Originally by: Darineah Charach
Can we leave out the 'over 12 full pages of "protesting too much me thinks".' argument? Cos it goes both ways, there's also 12 odd pages of BE and friends protesting about how awesome they are.
Thats because we are awesome and you guys are protesting way to much for ppl who do not care.
Originally by: Darineah Charach
Also, don't get pedantic in your arguments. Yes i said 'we' don't care. My response of 'you didn't kill me' was in reply to you talking about me specifically. I'm certain the guys who lost their ships were plenty annoyed. But the alliances as a whole...not so much.
A alliance is made up of individuals and not only that must have a level of pride not only on the whole but on a individual level as well and it is obviously smarting over the spanking we gave "you" (as in your alliance as a hole) or ppl not directly involved like yourself would not be posting such convoluted denials and veiled insults.
Originally by: Darineah Charach
My point is a simple one. I repeat, BE are extremely good at what they do but the days where their activities warrented a CAOD post and actually made a difference to the organisations they took on, are gone.
Aside from the occasional high value bpo gank BE have the same effect now as they always have and tbh the whiners and complainers like you who say we do not matter have always said the same thing every time a thread is posted with the standard "we still own our space", "those losses are nothing measured against our size" blah blah blah blah rinse and repeat.
PS: So your not gonna tell us the names of these uber organizations that rock your world with only 5 or so ships then?.
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Nizar
Foundation R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.10 14:09:00 -
[355]
Originally by: Riddal Please poast here we need 6 more pages to be better than the Pendulum poast
/signed
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Darineah Charach
Minmatar Antares Fleet Yards SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.10 14:21:00 -
[356]
Originally by: posteroid
Thats because we are awesome and you guys are protesting way to much for ppl who do not care.
My bad, came to CAOD looking for a rational discussion...yep i'm an idiot.
A alliance is made up of individuals and not only that must have a level of pride not only on the whole but on a individual level as well and it is obviously smarting over the spanking we gave "you" (as in your alliance as a hole[:D ) or ppl not directly involved like yourself would not be posting such convoluted denials and veiled insults.
Maybe i wasn't clear enough. My discussion here has nothing to do with your activities in Geminate. I was simply commenting that it doesn't make any difference. If you have an argument that you are in fact relevant and we 'as in an alliance as a hole *sic*' have suffered from your depredations then please put it forward.
Aside from the occasional high value bpo gank BE have the same effect now as they always have and tbh the whiners and complainers like you who say we do not matter have always said the same thing every time a thread is posted with the standard "we still own our space", "those losses are nothing measured against our size" blah blah blah blah rinse and repeat.
Haven't got the message yet? This isn't entirely true either, like i said before BE gatecamps used to have a substantial impact on an alliances abilities to operate, they just don't anymore.
PS: So your not gonna tell us the names of these uber organizations that rock your world with only 5 or so ships then?.
There aren't any, like i said they evolved. My point isn't that other people do what you do better, it's that other people HAVE in the past done what you do, but to stay relevant they adapted and grew.
PL is a possible great example. To the best of my knowledge they don't involve themselves in 'blob' warfare but if they come into your space you better sit up and take notice. Prior to that, they operated on a much smaller scale.
Like i said i could be wrong, wouldn't be the first time, but i'm sure there are others as well. You guys are still doing the same thing you did years ago and expecting the same result. If you want people to fear you then attack them where it hurts. If you don't then cool keep doing what you're doing. Just don't brag about it, it cheapens you.
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Darineah Charach
Minmatar Antares Fleet Yards SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.10 14:22:00 -
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Originally by: Riddal Please poast here we need 6 more pages to be better than the Pendulum poast
Workin on it :p
Saturday night and i'm at work so i can't play. That's when i become a forum *****!
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Sevdah
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2008.05.10 14:29:00 -
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Originally by: Shin Ra ...Guys, you are terrible - sort it out.
I think BE pilots should read The Daily Fix first before posting.
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posteroid
im right your wrong
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Posted - 2008.05.10 14:55:00 -
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Edited by: posteroid on 10/05/2008 15:00:19
Originally by: Darineah Charach
There aren't any, like i said they evolved. My point isn't that other people do what you do better, it's that other people HAVE in the past done what you do, but to stay relevant they adapted and grew.
They just lowered their standards and recruited enough ppl to be able to blob that as far as im concerned in devolving as any fights they get into or effect they have on others involves sheer numbers not skill.
Originally by: Darineah Charach
PL is a possible great example. To the best of my knowledge they don't involve themselves in 'blob' warfare but if they come into your space you better sit up and take notice. Prior to that, they operated on a much smaller scale.
While PL have some good pvpers id hardly call napping and jumping on the goon bandwaggon something to be proud of, but again the only reason you mention PL is due to sheer numbers and nothing else. All your comments are from seeing through the eyes of a blobber with no thought to actually having pride in individual and teamwork piloting skills.
Here is the truth bud, i like a lot of others in BE have been in huge napped up alliances and fought in massive fleet ops and even led and planned them on more occasions than i can easily count, and we finally got sick of it.
Now in our time in all those huge alliances if a group of 5-10 pilots had hung around our space at will popping well over 500 ships and over 700 if you include pods and losing hardly any we would have been royally miffed.
Now im sure ppl in our old alliances would have protested vehemently on these very forums that it was not a lot of isk in the grand scheme of things and that we still hold our space and made the exact same claims that you and every other alliance does when it gets owned in its own space. But the truth is that everybody including those who lost not a single ship to the invaders would be enormously annoyed at such a huge and embarrassing k/d ratio in our own space.
Now you can keep bleating on and claiming otherwise and even point out that isk wise we are not very important to the big picture, but the truth is we came into your home bent you over and then left with barely a scratch and that is a hit to anybody with a modicum of self respects ego deny it all you like.
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posteroid
im right your wrong
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Posted - 2008.05.10 14:58:00 -
[360]
Originally by: Sevdah
Originally by: Shin Ra ...Guys, you are terrible - sort it out.
I think BE pilots should read The Daily Fix first before posting.
Why most ppl remember the goons propaganda: "We do not care about (insert things they sucked at)", although i had no idea RK had sunk so far tbh.....
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Darineah Charach
Minmatar Antares Fleet Yards SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.10 15:11:00 -
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Actually the reason i mention PL is because they started out small and grew. NAPwagon or not they are a force to be reckoned with.
I could just have easily said OUTBREAK, or several others. All of whom are able to have an impact on 0.0 entities without resorting to the blob. But the argument is moot, you don't want that playstyle so ok.
We're going round in circles here, i'm not trying to smack i'm just arguing cos i have nothing better to do at work (nightshift is so slack) and i think my point is valid.
If you'd like to continue the discussion i'm all for it, just point out to me how your efforts affect us in real terms and we'll go from there. I'm willing to concede that from your point of view the damage inflicted is severe, all i'm saying is you're using the wrong yardstick and if you really want to hurt a 0.0 alliance, you'll have to get out of the pipes.
Then again, maybe i should keep my mouth shut. BE with larger gangs roaming through valuable systems....probably shouldn't give you guys any ideas
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Angor
BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2008.05.10 16:11:00 -
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Originally by: Darineah Charach Actually the reason i mention PL is because they started out small and grew. NAPwagon or not they are a force to be reckoned with.
I could just have easily said OUTBREAK, or several others. All of whom are able to have an impact on 0.0 entities without resorting to the blob. But the argument is moot, you don't want that playstyle so ok.
We're going round in circles here, i'm not trying to smack i'm just arguing cos i have nothing better to do at work (nightshift is so slack) and i think my point is valid.
If you'd like to continue the discussion i'm all for it, just point out to me how your efforts affect us in real terms and we'll go from there. I'm willing to concede that from your point of view the damage inflicted is severe, all i'm saying is you're using the wrong yardstick and if you really want to hurt a 0.0 alliance, you'll have to get out of the pipes.
Then again, maybe i should keep my mouth shut. BE with larger gangs roaming through valuable systems....probably shouldn't give you guys any ideas
Yeah PL and Outbreak have grown alot, I've always had respect for both those corp/alliance but they again can field more numbers than us and thats primaraly by choice as more ppl means less isk for all involved. Most of BE are silly rich from all the alliance farming with 5 odd ppl to split all the loot. Mounts up to billions and billions each month for each member. I dont know how PL or Outbreak reward their members for their campaigns but i cant imagine each member getting a fat piece of the pie like in BE. _______________________________ [ 2007.06.07 21:07:22 ] FrankyWave > ransom me guys I am joining XElas !!! |
posteroid
im right your wrong
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Posted - 2008.05.10 16:26:00 -
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Originally by: Darineah Charach Actually the reason i mention PL is because they started out small and grew. NAPwagon or not they are a force to be reckoned with.
I could just have easily said OUTBREAK, or several others. All of whom are able to have an impact on 0.0 entities without resorting to the blob. But the argument is moot, you don't want that playstyle so ok.
If you'd like to continue the discussion i'm all for it, just point out to me how your efforts affect us in real terms and we'll go from there. I'm willing to concede that from your point of view the damage inflicted is severe, all i'm saying is you're using the wrong yardstick and if you really want to hurt a 0.0 alliance, you'll have to get out of the pipes.
Then again, maybe i should keep my mouth shut. BE with larger gangs roaming through valuable systems....probably shouldn't give you guys any ideas
PL are now a seen force to be reckoned with as far as 0.0 alliances are concerned because they recruited numbers and napped the biggest blobbers in eve (goons, razor....)
Outbreak flew a slightly similar way to BE (using ranged ships), apart from not using cloaks or ravens and the fact that they also napped up with a larger entity (the MC Tortuga thing) eventually as well although Ive heard they now have split away from that nap a bit but i am not 100% about that intel. So again it comes down to sheer numbers...
The yard stick we use is a our own and we measure ourselves and others by it but then who does not do the same thing?.
You measure a threat by how large a blob a alliance or nap can bring to take your space while we have utterly no interest in holding or taking space what so ever and personally if i was given some space id just sell it as maintaining it or defending it in blobby fights is my idea of a nightmare and not something i am even slightly interested in.
But like i said earlier as a former member and FC of a 0.0 space holding nap fest if 5 or so pilots came into my home and killed over 500 ships and 200+ pods financially id not give a toss, but as a point of personal pride and respect for my alliance and self respect for myself and my corp/alliance mates id be more than a little miffed and anybody who says they would not feel that way must either be lying or have no respect for themselves or their corp/alliance.
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Bashiri
Point-Zero SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.10 16:41:00 -
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Originally by: posteroid Edited by: posteroid on 10/05/2008 16:34:02
Originally by: Darineah Charach Actually the reason i mention PL is because they started out small and grew. NAPwagon or not they are a force to be reckoned with.
I could just have easily said OUTBREAK, or several others. All of whom are able to have an impact on 0.0 entities without resorting to the blob. But the argument is moot, you don't want that playstyle so ok.
If you'd like to continue the discussion i'm all for it, just point out to me how your efforts affect us in real terms and we'll go from there. I'm willing to concede that from your point of view the damage inflicted is severe, all i'm saying is you're using the wrong yardstick and if you really want to hurt a 0.0 alliance, you'll have to get out of the pipes.
Then again, maybe i should keep my mouth shut. BE with larger gangs roaming through valuable systems....probably shouldn't give you guys any ideas
PL are now a seen force to be reckoned with as far as 0.0 alliances are concerned because they recruited numbers and napped the biggest blobbers in eve (goons, razor....)
Outbreak flew a slightly similar way to BE (using ranged ships), apart from not using cloaks or ravens and the fact that they also napped up with a larger entity (the MC Tortuga thing) eventually as well although Ive heard they now have split away from that nap a bit but i am not 100% about that intel. So again it comes down to sheer numbers...
The yard stick we use is a our own and we measure ourselves and others by it but then who does not do the same thing?.
You measure a threat by how large a blob a alliance or nap can bring to take your space while we have utterly no interest in holding or taking space what so ever and personally if i was given some space id just sell it as maintaining it or defending it in blobby fights is my idea of a nightmare and not something i am even slightly interested in.
But like i said earlier as a former member and FC of a 0.0 space holding nap fest, if 5 or so pilots came into my home and killed over 500 ships and 200+ pods with very few losses financially id not give a toss, but as a point of personal pride and respect for my alliance and self respect for myself and my corp/alliance mates id be more than a little miffed and anybody who says they would not feel that way must either be lying or have no respect for themselves or their corp/alliance.
SO everyone sucks and you cool nice to know.Jump off our nuts already.
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Darineah Charach
Minmatar Antares Fleet Yards SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.10 16:48:00 -
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Your statement about pride is taken on board. I won't deny i got irritated every time some idiot said in alliance they were getting ganked by BE in BWF. My opinion was if you can type once it's over, you can read it before it starts. But that's beside the point.
OK, you want to judge us by your standards and as you said everyone will. Then why flame and smack if we judge your effectiveness by ours? That goes both ways, and i don't condone (not that i have any control over it being just a pleb pilot) the smack from my side in here as well. The point still stands that if you want to maintain a presence in EvE you have to adapt with the game.
As Angor said, part of the reason you keep it small is to maximise the returns to individual pilots. All good, i'd love to be on the receiving end of some of those isks myself, being as i'm constantly poor. I don't dispute your tactics, nor your ability as pilots. I just don't think what you do has the same impact it once had, and for that reason i think gloating about is superfluous and as i said before actually detracts from your status rather than improving it.
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Crackzilla
The Shadow Order SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.10 17:23:00 -
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Originally by: Darineah Charach I won't deny i got irritated every time some idiot said in alliance they were getting ganked by BE in BWF. My opinion was if you can type once it's over, you can read it before it starts.
Yep. There are a multitude of tools to avoid being ganked. If pilots fly solo and shun the tools then they shall receive no benefit or help from the alliance.
Originally by: Darineah Charach As Angor said, part of the reason you keep it small is to maximise the returns to individual pilots. All good, i'd love to be on the receiving end of some of those isks myself,
You wouldn't want to spend the time camping those gates that BE does. If you ratted as much as they spend on a gate you could turn a bil or two a week.
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posteroid
im right your wrong
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Posted - 2008.05.10 17:29:00 -
[367]
Originally by: Darineah Charach
OK, you want to judge us by your standards and as you said everyone will. Then why flame and smack if we judge your effectiveness by ours? That goes both ways, and i don't condone (not that i have any control over it being just a pleb pilot) the smack from my side in here as well. The point still stands that if you want to maintain a presence in EvE you have to adapt with the game.
I see what you mean but the point we are trying to make is that we consider a great k/d ratio from gang pvp plus the loot that comes from it our goals but you seem to think we are in it to destroy your alliance or summat.
Imagine a target shooter he fires his gun and the guy he is competing with say "lol noob u missed my target" and the guy who shot says "nup nub i was shooting at the other target and i hit a bullseye tyvm stfu tard".
Anybody with half a braincell knows that 5-10 pilots (unless you decide to move your entire naps BPO collection through a gate we are camping) cannot take space or do any real significant damage to napped up alliances like RK/atlas and co but then we were not trying to we were aiming elsewhere and we nailed the bullseye (as usual).
So when we see claims of "you cannot really hurt us as a alliance" and "come and take our space if you think you hard enough" (my personal favorite) comments it *****s us up as we could not give a toss about your space just your loot and we got buckets full of it over our little 2 week stint.
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Darineah Charach
Minmatar Antares Fleet Yards SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.10 17:32:00 -
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Originally by: *****zilla
Originally by: Darineah Charach I won't deny i got irritated every time some idiot said in alliance they were getting ganked by BE in BWF. My opinion was if you can type once it's over, you can read it before it starts.
Yep. There are a multitude of tools to avoid being ganked. If pilots fly solo and shun the tools then they shall receive no benefit or help from the alliance.
Originally by: Darineah Charach As Angor said, part of the reason you keep it small is to maximise the returns to individual pilots. All good, i'd love to be on the receiving end of some of those isks myself,
You wouldn't want to spend the time camping those gates that BE does. If you ratted as much as they spend on a gate you could turn a bil or two a week.
Agreed, i wouldn't that's why i don't. I also hate ratting, that's why i don't. Could be a clue here as to why i'm always poor...:)
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Darineah Charach
Minmatar Antares Fleet Yards SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.10 17:37:00 -
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Originally by: posteroid
Originally by: Darineah Charach
OK, you want to judge us by your standards and as you said everyone will. Then why flame and smack if we judge your effectiveness by ours? That goes both ways, and i don't condone (not that i have any control over it being just a pleb pilot) the smack from my side in here as well. The point still stands that if you want to maintain a presence in EvE you have to adapt with the game.
I see what you mean but the point we are trying to make is that we consider a great k/d ratio from gang pvp plus the loot that comes from it our goals but you seem to think we are in it to destroy your alliance or summat.
Imagine a target shooter he fires his gun and the guy he is competing with say "lol noob u missed my target" and the guy who shot says "nup nub i was shooting at the other target and i hit a bullseye tyvm stfu tard".
Anybody with half a braincell knows that 5-10 pilots (unless you decide to move your entire naps BPO collection through a gate we are camping) cannot take space or do any real significant damage to napped up alliances like RK/atlas and co but then we were not trying to we were aiming elsewhere and we nailed the bullseye (as usual).
So when we see claims of "you cannot really hurt us as a alliance" and "come and take our space if you think you hard enough" (my personal favorite) comments it *****s us up as we could not give a toss about your space just your loot and we got buckets full of it over our little 2 week stint.
Thats fair enough, but if your goal is not to hurt us, why make this thread in the first place? If your goal is not to brag about your abilities, why are we having this conversation?
If it was all just about the isk, i'd say GF come back sometime. It's the gloating i object too, because i feel it's unwarranted and frankly it detracts from your achievements.
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Sevdah
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2008.05.10 17:49:00 -
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Originally by: posteroid ...we were aiming elsewhere and we nailed the bullseye (as usual)
ROFL, yeah you were aiming for few easy ganks in BWF. And by now we all know that ganking noobs is BEs actual pvp skill level.
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posteroid
im right your wrong
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Posted - 2008.05.10 19:25:00 -
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Originally by: Sevdah
Originally by: posteroid ...we were aiming elsewhere and we nailed the bullseye (as usual)
ROFL, yeah you were aiming for few easy ganks in BWF. And by now we all know that ganking noobs is BEs actual pvp skill level.
OUCH somebody is bitter did you forget to lube up before we reamed you or are you just jealous?.
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Evil Pookie
BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2008.05.10 19:51:00 -
[372]
threads like this make me shed tears of joy
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Angor
BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2008.05.11 01:11:00 -
[373]
I dont think anybody in BE would be interested in "crushing" an alliance even if we could... its why we only stay in an area for like 2 weeks because any longer than that and your wallets are starting to hurt, your not coming and fighting anymore and your trying to completly avoid us and/or redesign your jump bridge network etc. (like alliances have done in the past) to get around us. Its best to just leave and let everything to get back to normal for later respawns.. _______________________________ [ 2007.06.07 21:07:22 ] FrankyWave > ransom me guys I am joining XElas !!! |
Tortenstecher
Dark Glitter Inc
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Posted - 2008.05.11 01:54:00 -
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Edited by: Tortenstecher on 11/05/2008 01:55:28
Originally by: Angor I dont think anybody in BE would be interested in "crushing" an alliance even if we could... its why we only stay in an area for like 2 weeks because any longer than that and your wallets are starting to hurt, your not coming and fighting anymore and your trying to completly avoid us and/or redesign your jump bridge network etc. (like alliances have done in the past) to get around us. Its best to just leave and let everything to get back to normal for later respawns..
Dude, you couldn't do shiat to a bigger alliance, let alone hurt someones wallet from such an alliance or even "crush" anything bigger than a small noobish gang. Keep cloaked and dream on! However you could tell us what you smoke, just so we know what drugs make you get out of touch with reality that much.
P.S. I personally know couple of players that used to be in BE and left or fly with you. And ALL of them confirmed that over the last 2 years BE bacame bunch of lamers.
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Angor
BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2008.05.11 02:02:00 -
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Originally by: Tortenstecher Edited by: Tortenstecher on 11/05/2008 01:55:28
Originally by: Angor I dont think anybody in BE would be interested in "crushing" an alliance even if we could... its why we only stay in an area for like 2 weeks because any longer than that and your wallets are starting to hurt, your not coming and fighting anymore and your trying to completly avoid us and/or redesign your jump bridge network etc. (like alliances have done in the past) to get around us. Its best to just leave and let everything to get back to normal for later respawns..
Dude, you couldn't do shiat to a bigger alliance, let alone hurt someones wallet from such an alliance or even "crush" anything bigger than a small noobish gang. Keep cloaked and dream on! However you could tell us what you smoke, just so we know what drugs make you get out of touch with reality that much.
P.S. I personally know couple of players that used to be in BE and left or fly with you. And ALL of them confirmed that over the last 2 years BE bacame bunch of lamers.
Well alot of idiots have passed through these doors and evil has shown them the back door 2 minutes later, i take it its one of these disgruntled members who were only in the corp for less than a month your refering too. _______________________________ [ 2007.06.07 21:07:22 ] FrankyWave > ransom me guys I am joining XElas !!! |
posteroid
im right your wrong
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Posted - 2008.05.11 02:05:00 -
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Edited by: posteroid on 11/05/2008 02:13:36
Originally by: Tortenstecher
Dude, you couldn't do shiat to a bigger alliance, let alone hurt someones wallet from such an alliance or even "crush" anything bigger than a small noobish gang.
Who cares about your wallets its ours that get filled from ratting you morons in your own systems.
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Mankell Grenze
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Posted - 2008.05.11 02:26:00 -
[377]
BE are insane, mad props.
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Atsuko Ratu
Caldari VSP Corp.
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Posted - 2008.05.11 13:08:00 -
[378]
So burn eden can cloak camp a few alliances who are busy fighting wars in other places.
Am impressed. I'd join you if I had the patience to sit cloaked off a gate for 2 weeks.
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posteroid
im right your wrong
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Posted - 2008.05.11 13:16:00 -
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Originally by: Atsuko Ratu So burn eden can cloak camp a few alliances who are busy fighting wars in other places.
Am impressed. I'd join you if I had the patience to sit cloaked off a gate for 2 weeks.
What makes you think we would take some noob who since 2006 has killed less ships than we normally do on a 2 week campaign let alone a month.
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Sevdah
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2008.05.11 13:18:00 -
[380]
Originally by: Atsuko Ratu So burn eden can cloak camp a few alliances who are busy fighting wars in other places.
Am impressed. I'd join you if I had the patience to sit cloaked off a gate for 2 weeks.
Hahaha, dude you totally nailed it!
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Mire Stoude
Cash Money Brothers R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.11 15:05:00 -
[381]
GF
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Cloned S0ul
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Posted - 2008.05.11 22:56:00 -
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Shin Ra,nominated to Nobel Price,for best trolling in forum history.
Why you paste thys stats? next time give us som link,not wall of txt,a lot people dont care.
Ps.Next time if u prepare to trolling,read thys http://www.yogajournal.com/ stop quaff cofe,and get a life.
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SATAN
BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2008.05.12 06:03:00 -
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Originally by: Cloned S0ul Shin Ra,nominated to Nobel Price,for best trolling in forum history.
Why you paste thys stats? next time give us som link,not wall of txt,a lot people dont care.
Ps.Next time if u prepare to trolling,read thys http://www.yogajournal.com/ stop quaff cofe,and get a life.
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Juneli
Ventis Secundis R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.12 06:05:00 -
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This thread makes me laugh. Sure, BE, you're decent pilots, I'll give you that; but your campaign failed to impress. You either only engaged when you had dramatically stronger forces, and the few times I saw you actually fighting your tactics weren't anymore sophisticated than those same novice pilots stupid enough to jump into your camps. Worst of all, only a couple of your pilots had a demonstrated sense of humor.
-Juneli
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Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2008.05.12 06:23:00 -
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Originally by: Juneli Worst of all, only a couple of your pilots had a demonstrated sense of humor.
We made this thread, I think that counts
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Kraven Dragonis
Minmatar Havoc Violence and Chaos R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.12 08:22:00 -
[386]
You had a good run and a lot of nice easy kill, really wished we could of PvP with you guys but every time we tried you ran or clocked up pity you donÆt like fair fights maybe next time you mite grow some nads but I doubt it. -------------
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ArchenTheGreat
Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.05.12 08:28:00 -
[387]
Originally by: Shin Ra
763 kills / 23 losses
You are almost as good PVPer as Ginger Magician (or whatever this gate camper was called). Congratulations.
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posteroid
im right your wrong
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Posted - 2008.05.12 10:52:00 -
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Originally by: Kraven Dragonis You had a good run and a lot of nice easy kill, really wished we could of PvP with you guys but every time we tried you ran or clocked up pity you donÆt like fair fights maybe next time you mite grow some nads but I doubt it.
Oooo bitter much???.
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Riddal
The Older Gamers R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.12 10:55:00 -
[389]
Originally by: ArchenTheGreat
Originally by: Shin Ra
763 kills / 23 losses
You are almost as good PVPer as Ginger Magician (or whatever this gate camper was called). Congratulations.
Ohhh thats a low call.... I would wardec TRI for that Shin Ra.
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Funkcikle
Gallente DEATHFUNK R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.12 13:30:00 -
[390]
I found Pookie's bunches virtually untargetable, and suspect some foul play
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Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2008.05.13 17:49:00 -
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Originally by: Riddal
Originally by: ArchenTheGreat
Originally by: Shin Ra
763 kills / 23 losses
You are almost as good PVPer as Ginger Magician (or whatever this gate camper was called). Congratulations.
Ohhh thats a low call.... I would wardec TRI for that Shin Ra.
I didn't even have to lift a finger and they died.
Such is our power.
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Mickey Knox
Caldari Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.13 20:29:00 -
[392]
Be was in geminate? you sure?
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Orar Ironfist
Incarnation of Evil Nocturnal Legion
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Posted - 2008.05.13 23:56:00 -
[393]
Originally by: Shin Ra
Originally by: Riddal
Ohhh thats a low call.... I would wardec TRI for that Shin Ra.
I didn't even have to lift a finger and they died.
Such is our power.
Pirate for Life(no matter my sec)
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Kera Delacour
Evenstar Industries
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Posted - 2008.05.14 00:29:00 -
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As impressive as those stats look I have to say it's not exactly rocket science to rack up good stats gate camping in cloaking battleships fitted with damps in the mids. Anything that can remotely threaten you ya just warp off and cloak.
That said... that is a lot of kills. Smash should probably learn to communicate better so that so many easy ganks aren't attainable. ----------- EVNS, bringing quality carebearing to a solar system near you! |
Me 1st
SeTI Corporation
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Posted - 2008.05.14 05:50:00 -
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Originally by: Shin Ra
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I didn't even have to lift a finger and they died.
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because you dont lift a finger they died (...of boredom)
and dont look any further you wont find any balls in your pants
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Mirirar
Solstice Systems Development Concourse
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Posted - 2008.05.14 06:03:00 -
[396]
Go Burn Eden.
I've flown against you, I've flown against SMASH/Kill, and also as a SMASH member. The noise on this forum confirms my personal memories of the alliance.
Kill all of them.
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Wideen
Contraband Inc.
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Posted - 2008.05.14 06:06:00 -
[397]
Originally by: Lady Valory OK, Burn Eden,
Impressive stats
Can you PLEASE team up with a cap-heavy or bs heavy merc corp and then start clearing off the moon mining pos's?
What you are doing is pruning the trees of weak and dead branches.
The pos networks intact generate the billions of isk BACK in mere days!
Here is what I suggest then... You bring one of these alliances to their knees by singling out all those poorly defended small towers.
You pop a plat moon here, chromium tower there, a caesium tower here and there, and then the ISK machine takes a major blow as reactors run dry.
Also at that point, they bring out the real fleets and u get more killing.
Start small, Burn Eden, with some small towers that have the usual token gun on them. Hit those towers that are 10 jumps out from a station first. GL
I believe you'd have to pay for that.
Originally by: F'nog Your math intrigues me, and I wish to subscribe to its newsletter.
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Nicole Maher
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Posted - 2008.05.14 06:51:00 -
[398]
They make threads about non-capital kills now?
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Crotador
Minmatar The Older Gamers R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.14 07:34:00 -
[399]
Go BE Go... no wait... This is my forum sig. There are many like it, but this one is mine.
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Craggerz06
Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.14 11:26:00 -
[400]
Is this CCP's way of distracting Roadkill and Co. from other threads?
Lots of garbage being churned over and over in this thread.
Lock it so someone else can make a new one.
Shin Ra, try and earn some respect instead of provoking people with childish tactics
Everyone else stop biting
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posteroid
im right your wrong
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Posted - 2008.05.14 11:49:00 -
[401]
Edited by: posteroid on 14/05/2008 11:49:45
Originally by: Kera Delacour As impressive as those stats look I have to say it's not exactly rocket science to rack up good stats gate camping in cloaking battleships fitted with damps in the mids. Anything that can remotely threaten you ya just warp off and cloak.
That said... that is a lot of kills. Smash should probably learn to communicate better so that so many easy ganks aren't attainable. -----------
Ooo look a paper tiger, LOL you've gotta love the ppl who post things like that really.
Yes yes everybody knows Kera Delacour would win eve cos the eve fitting tool and her calculator say so..............................
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Kera Delacour
Evenstar Industries
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Posted - 2008.05.14 12:48:00 -
[402]
Edited by: Kera Delacour on 14/05/2008 12:49:08
Originally by: posteroid Edited by: posteroid on 14/05/2008 11:49:45
Originally by: Kera Delacour As impressive as those stats look I have to say it's not exactly rocket science to rack up good stats gate camping in cloaking battleships fitted with damps in the mids. Anything that can remotely threaten you ya just warp off and cloak.
That said... that is a lot of kills. Smash should probably learn to communicate better so that so many easy ganks aren't attainable. -----------
Ooo look a paper tiger, LOL you've gotta love the ppl who post things like that really.
Yes yes everybody knows Kera Delacour would win eve cos the eve fitting tool and her calculator say so..............................
Ummm.... I'm a carebear :) But that also doesn't mean that my point is invalid. I read and post on CAOD because I find it interesting to do so, same as you :) I think BE has great tactics, I do.... in fact I've even stated so on many occasions in game. Whenever people say ravens suck for PVP I point out BE's successes with them.
But to come to forums and crow over high kill counts and low losses when all you do is gate camp and station camp and you use ship configurations specifically designed to allow you to safely run from any real fight is kind of silly. ----------- EVNS, bringing quality carebearing to a solar system near you! |
Needa3
Minmatar Templars of Space Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.05.14 13:09:00 -
[403]
Originally by: Kera Delacour
But to come to forums and crow over high kill counts and low losses when all you do is gate camp and station camp and you use ship configurations specifically designed to allow you to safely run from any real fight is kind of silly.
errr, IMHO i call it a smart tactic, a wellthought strategic and a very effective set up. Way better than the average blob the "pvp" forces throw at you.
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posteroid
im right your wrong
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Posted - 2008.05.14 13:27:00 -
[404]
Edited by: posteroid on 14/05/2008 13:28:30
Originally by: Kera Delacour
But to come to forums and crow over high kill counts and low losses when all you do is gate camp and station camp and you use ship configurations specifically designed to allow you to safely run from any real fight is kind of silly.
Running from a "real fight"????.
Fights occur in eve really in only 3 places (apart from the occasional ganks in belts or probed out ships) 1. At a pos. 2. At a Station 3. At a gate. Now ganking a ship at a pos is possible but risky so most small gang fights happen at gates or stations, mostly gates. (yes there are exceptions but these are the most common).
The ship configurations not only allow BE to reposition (run away as you call it) but also to remove either high dps or other potential threats from causing them a problem thus allowing a limited number of pilots the ability to fight outnumbered without incurring losses (hopefully). The very fact that you consider sitting still and slugging away instead of repositioning your assets to reduce or stop losses altogether shows how poor your and others combat experience and teamwork within the gang really is.
A 8-10 vs 20- 40 fight may take BE 30 mins to an hour or even longer to win but we will do so without taking a loss a lot of the time. Now some ppl may call it running away or even cowardly for not sitting still (lol comments like this from those who brought 20-40 or more to fight 8 always makes me chuckle) but moving around the field and positioning assets is a basic part of combat most blobber 0.0 entities have forgotten or never learned as they rely totally on numbers.
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Captain Rickdick
BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2008.05.14 13:55:00 -
[405]
Now iam finally resubed i would just like to say how i approve of this thread and the revenge on road kill for there Sentry drone hacks at fanfest.
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Kera Delacour
Evenstar Industries
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Posted - 2008.05.14 14:00:00 -
[406]
Originally by: posteroid Edited by: posteroid on 14/05/2008 13:28:30
Originally by: Kera Delacour
But to come to forums and crow over high kill counts and low losses when all you do is gate camp and station camp and you use ship configurations specifically designed to allow you to safely run from any real fight is kind of silly.
Running from a "real fight"????.
Fights occur in eve really in only 3 places (apart from the occasional ganks in belts or probed out ships) 1. At a pos. 2. At a Station 3. At a gate. Now ganking a ship at a pos is possible but risky so most small gang fights happen at gates or stations, mostly gates. (yes there are exceptions but these are the most common).
The ship configurations not only allow BE to reposition (run away as you call it) but also to remove either high dps or other potential threats from causing them a problem thus allowing a limited number of pilots the ability to fight outnumbered without incurring losses (hopefully). The very fact that you consider sitting still and slugging away instead of repositioning your assets to reduce or stop losses altogether shows how poor your and others combat experience and teamwork within the gang really is.
A 8-10 vs 20- 40 fight may take BE 30 mins to an hour or even longer to win but we will do so without taking a loss a lot of the time. Now some ppl may call it running away or even cowardly for not sitting still (lol comments like this from those who brought 20-40 or more to fight 8 always makes me chuckle) but moving around the field and positioning assets is a basic part of combat most blobber 0.0 entities have forgotten or never learned as they rely totally on numbers.
:) As I said, I respect what BE does, and have cited their raven configurations in the past as examples of why Ravens do not 'suck' in PVP. I just think posting insulting posts towards organizations that are more worried about defending sovereignty than dealing with sniping cloaking gankers is silly.
BE is ganking. Nothing more, nothing less. Which is fine, but posts like the OP which attempt to make it into more than that are just silly. At the end of the day BE didn't hurt the alliance they just killed a few privately owned ships of alliance members flitting about. Now, I will absolutely state that it's a good tactic if all you want is a high kill-to-death ratio. But let's be honest: BE doesn't stay and fight in any situation where the enemy can actually fight back effectively. The minute the enemy starts getting out EWAR and sniper assets of their own BE finds other places to be... fast. (Not cowardly, it's smart, but it's hardly something to be crowing about on the forums).
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posteroid
im right your wrong
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Posted - 2008.05.14 14:14:00 -
[407]
Edited by: posteroid on 14/05/2008 14:14:44
Originally by: Kera Delacour stuff
TBH you have no idea about BE although making claims of only gankers compared to ppl who hold space (only blobbers) is naive. Having a 8 - 10 man gang sitting in your space when your a 3000+ member alliance/nap and losing 500-100+ ships while only killing a few may not hurt the alliances wallet, it may not hurt the alliances space but self respect and pride are also a big factor and nobody can tell me that its not a issue.
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Crackzilla
The Shadow Order SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.14 14:44:00 -
[408]
Originally by: posteroid ... self respect and pride are also a big factor and nobody can tell me that its not a issue.
This assumes the alliance cares. Pride? I know I wasn't the only one munching on popcorn and watching blues get popped on the bwf gate while calling out commentry in the intel channel. Watching whoever is camping bwf makes for a great show.
Simple fact is that these alliance members you speak of could care less for those that can't check intel and get popped at a known gate camp. The few that do whine are likely to have been popped and will be told that perhaps 0.0 isn't the place for them. Quite a few alliance members are rooting for whoever holds the gate because it thins the herd by shooting blues that we cannot.
If what BE does was unique then it might have strategic value. However even in the last campaign BE was one of a few groups camping gates somewhere in Geminate. You sorta have to take a number. The only thing that keeps the BE name alive is the forums.
If it weren't for these cries for attention on the forums few would remember you. That is your legacy.
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posteroid
im right your wrong
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Posted - 2008.05.14 14:50:00 -
[409]
Edited by: posteroid on 14/05/2008 14:54:58
Originally by: *****zilla
If it weren't for these cries for attention on the forums few would remember you. That is your legacy.
While your legacy is one of getting owned by 8 man gangs and telling everybody that you did not care (are you goon alts cos you sound just like them as they tend not to care about stuff they suck at or at least thats what they say).
Oh yea and you are members of a alliance that held some space...wow like thats hard i mean you had to click the accept alliance recruitment button and everything.
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Pamangkin
Notneir Industry LLC
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Posted - 2008.05.14 15:16:00 -
[410]
do I see 15.. 15.........
Wooteh
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Thaanvanite
Minmatar ACCORD Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.14 15:28:00 -
[411]
Sure a mod must have read this thread by now, its pure flamebait just lock it.
also
Free Dastommy
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SpankMeElmo
Foundation R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.14 16:10:00 -
[412]
Edited by: SpankMeElmo on 14/05/2008 16:12:32 Everyone knows what RK and friends are. They are a large alliance with large-alliance benefits and large-alliance problems.
Likewise, we all know what BE and friends are. They are folks who come into our space, and, free-of-charge help us to train our future FCs. (smile)
Hey, guys. GF
PS. Btw, was this a contract or were y'all just bandying about?
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Crackzilla
The Shadow Order SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.14 16:18:00 -
[413]
Originally by: posteroid While your legacy is one of getting owned by 8 man gangs
It isn't exactly news that a small group can enage a larger group successfully when they control the situation. Many out there do this every day successfully all across Eve. BE isn't a unique and special snowflake.
I refuse to help those that won't help themselves. Some folks get ganked because they won't pay attention to intel channels. Or they think they can pvp and leroy into a known gate camp. I care how?
Originally by: posteroid
... you had to click the accept corp/alliance recruitment button and everything.
Actually I've fought in most of the conquests in Geminate. I've been involved in nearly every station that was taken for one side or the other. For the stations that we've put up I've donated time and isk when asked.
If you wish to smack talk, it helps to have some sort of basis.
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Gneeznow
Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.05.14 17:48:00 -
[414]
this is a pretty crap thread and I aint reading it tbfh
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posteroid
im right your wrong
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Posted - 2008.05.14 17:54:00 -
[415]
Originally by: *****zilla
Actually I've fought in most of the conquests in Geminate. I've been involved in nearly every station that was taken for one side or the other. For the stations that we've put up I've donated time and isk when asked.
If you wish to smack talk, it helps to have some sort of basis.
Ive got a news flash for ya buddy, you remember telling us that the ships we killed and the isk lost by those individual players was utterly insignificant to your alliance because of its size.
Well i have no doubt that because of its size your self acclaimed contributions to your alliance are even less earth shattering in the big picture. I mean you were that one extra pilot in the 300 man blob that did blah blah well... whoopiee give the sheep a campaign medal and tell him to stfu.
Nothing is unusual about either of our situations bud the sheep always flock together in large groups and the wolves always trim the herd, then after the wolves have feasted they howl about it a bit, and the surviving sheep bleat about how they were not eaten and how lucky...erm uber that makes them.
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Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2008.05.14 17:57:00 -
[416]
Originally by: *****zilla
Originally by: posteroid ... self respect and pride are also a big factor and nobody can tell me that its not a issue.
This assumes the alliance cares. Pride? I know I wasn't the only one munching on popcorn and watching blues get popped on the bwf gate while calling out commentry in the intel channel. Watching whoever is camping bwf makes for a great show.
Simple fact is that these alliance members you speak of could care less for those that can't check intel and get popped at a known gate camp. The few that do whine are likely to have been popped and will be told that perhaps 0.0 isn't the place for them. Quite a few alliance members are rooting for whoever holds the gate because it thins the herd by shooting blues that we cannot.
If what BE does was unique then it might have strategic value. However even in the last campaign BE was one of a few groups camping gates somewhere in Geminate. You sorta have to take a number. The only thing that keeps the BE name alive is the forums.
If it weren't for these cries for attention on the forums few would remember you. That is your legacy.
Uh, what about warp core stabs. Surely thats a part of our awesome legacy. Though I take you point, they are probably 1% of the massive impact we have made on every single aspect of the game. In fact, nobody else has made close to as much impact in terms of their corporation.
You are just scared to admit your wrong.
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Crackzilla
The Shadow Order SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.14 18:17:00 -
[417]
Originally by: posteroid your self acclaimed contributions to your alliance are even less earth shattering in the big picture.
I'm fine with this. I've participated for the benefit of the group and have had fun. If someone is acting solo and gets ganked I could care less about them.
Both of our organizations work the same in this manner. The difference is that it is easier to trim the fat with a small corp where everyone can be monitored.
Originally by: posteroid ...and the surviving sheep bleat about how they were not eaten and how lucky...erm uber that makes them.
Yet when we pop you all I've heard is whining that you shouldn't have died.
This is nothing but two hunters pulling down the weak from each others packs. A larger organization will obviously have more soft targets. This isn't unique. Nor is this special.
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posteroid
im right your wrong
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Posted - 2008.05.14 18:26:00 -
[418]
Originally by: *****zilla
Originally by: posteroid your self acclaimed contributions to your alliance are even less earth shattering in the big picture.
I'm fine with this. I've participated for the benefit of the group and have had fun. If someone is acting solo and gets ganked I could care less about them.
Both of our organizations work the same in this manner. The difference is that it is easier to trim the fat with a small corp where everyone can be monitored.
Originally by: posteroid ...and the surviving sheep bleat about how they were not eaten and how lucky...erm uber that makes them.
Yet when we pop you all I've heard is whining that you shouldn't have died.
This is nothing but two hunters pulling down the weak from each others packs. A larger organization will obviously have more soft targets. This isn't unique. Nor is this special.
You do not have weak targets you are a weak target and while we may lose the occasional ship the fact is virtually all our losses come from being outnumbered, while our kills can be from solo kills or gangs that outnumber us.
Im looking forwards to the debut of our recordings on your TS cos your fc's did not sound like they did not care about the losses or the gangs they put together (and lots to us) were a lot more than just solo muppets. Il send you a copy.
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Kera Delacour
Evenstar Industries
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Posted - 2008.05.14 18:27:00 -
[419]
Edited by: Kera Delacour on 14/05/2008 18:30:39 Edited by: Kera Delacour on 14/05/2008 18:29:25 Edited by: Kera Delacour on 14/05/2008 18:28:22
Originally by: Shin Ra In fact, nobody else has made close to as much impact in terms of their corporation.
You are just scared to admit your wrong.
Ok, I'll bite... what impact? Honestly... if it weren't for the forums I'd never have even heard of BE? And, honestly, the only times I've read anything about your exploits or 'power' is when you post...
Honest question? What major impact has Burn Eden had on the game?
I know for a fact that Smash/Roadkill have evicted at least 4 alliances from Geminate and held the region for something like a year now... that's impact... what's BE done? ----------- EVNS, bringing quality carebearing to a solar system near you! |
Ghaelsto Kakram
Mindgamers
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Posted - 2008.05.14 18:32:00 -
[420]
Originally by: Kera Delacour Ok, I'll bite... what impact? Honestly... if it weren't for the forums I'd never have even heard of BE? And, honestly, the only times I've read anything about your exploits or 'power' is when you post...
Honest question? What major impact has Burn Eden had on the game?
Guess you missed the gazillion posts about BE'd downtime TS invitations.
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Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2008.05.14 18:44:00 -
[421]
Originally by: Kera Delacour
what's BE done?
Wayyyyyy more than you.
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Maria D'thinker
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.05.14 18:51:00 -
[422]
To the top. More posting please.
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Crackzilla
The Shadow Order SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.14 18:51:00 -
[423]
Edited by: *****zilla on 14/05/2008 19:02:02
Originally by: posteroid You do not have weak targets you are a weak target and while we may lose the occasional ship the fact is virtually all our losses come from being outnumbered, while our kills can be from solo kills or gangs that outnumber us.
Nearly any pvp group can say the same when they can choose the time and place to engage.
Originally by: posteroid
Im looking forwards to the debut of our recordings on your TS cos your fc's did not sound like they did not care about the losses or the gangs they put together (and lots to us) were a lot more than just solo muppets. Il send you a copy.
So you admit that BE meta games? How can you be taken seriously when you must listen to hostile voice coms before engaging? Do you enjoy systematically removing all risk?
I'm not saying there is anything wrong with meta gaming. Only that removing nearly all risk doesn't give much to brag about.
You realize that anyone can fc? That most engaging you were random gangs thrown together? That they were told not to be there as we had a war on else where? That those that did engage were told what they needed and how to engage yet leroy'd anyways?
If someone acted solo and was ganked, I could care less. If someone acted as part of a group, had the initiative to form a gang and try a tactic, more power to them.
Originally by: Ghaelsto Kakram
Guess you missed the gazillion posts about BE'd downtime TS invitations.
And subpar smack. Mustn't forget this.
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posteroid
im right your wrong
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Posted - 2008.05.14 19:02:00 -
[424]
I do enjoy your self delusional spin and propaganda tbh,... if you do not lose as a gang or if a solo dude gets popped he is a muppet and a weak member of your alliance but if you actually have a plan and put together a fleet to implement it and fail you claim it was a leeroooy gang and you "didn't want those ships anyway".
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yunger
Big Guns Inc. Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.14 19:14:00 -
[425]
Originally by: posteroid
I do enjoy your self delusional spin and propaganda tbh,... if you do not lose as a gang or if a solo dude gets popped he is a muppet and a weak member of your alliance but if you actually have a plan and put together a fleet to implement it and fail you claim it was a leeroooy gang and you "didn't want those ships anyway".
This is eve if people actually wanted to keep those ships forever they wouldn't have undocked in them. And for those that actually fly with us, eve is not about avoiding getting killed it¦s about killing stuff. And statistics be damned !
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Crackzilla
The Shadow Order SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.14 19:17:00 -
[426]
Originally by: posteroid
... if you actually have a plan and put together a fleet to implement it and fail you claim it was a leeroooy gang and you "didn't want those ships anyway"
Generally a leroy gang is one in which even the members realize that the current plan is bad.
It was likely what you remembered most as if we fielded anything else we couldn't get cloakers to engage us. Admittedly I didn't watch most of the fights but this is usually how it works out versus cloakers.
The one time I engaged with my alt we knew it was a bad idea. We didn't have the right ships nor the right setups. Someone had done something silly on their own and we bailed them out against better judgement. Got a few bs kills, and lots of smack for the effort.
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posteroid
im right your wrong
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Posted - 2008.05.14 19:17:00 -
[427]
Originally by: yunger
Eve is not about avoiding getting killed it¦s about killing stuff.
Bow your head and worship us then.
763 kills / 23 losses
Btw you cannot kill anything in a pod so avoiding getting popped is a good idea.
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yunger
Big Guns Inc. Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.14 19:21:00 -
[428]
Originally by: posteroid
Originally by: yunger
Eve is not about avoiding getting killed it¦s about killing stuff.
Bow your head and worship us then.
763 kills / 23 losses
Btw you cannot kill anything in a pod so avoiding getting popped is a good idea.
The first number is the kills, combined with the other it is a statistic and you can always get more ships. Try a few leeroy sometime, your k/d ratio will be worst but you will get more kills and the e-***** will grow back i promise.
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posteroid
im right your wrong
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Posted - 2008.05.14 19:21:00 -
[429]
Originally by: *****zilla
Originally by: posteroid
... if you actually have a plan and put together a fleet to implement it and fail you claim it was a leeroooy gang and you "didn't want those ships anyway"
Generally a leroy gang is one in which even the members realize that the current plan is bad.
A leeroy gangs only plan is to warp in and start shooting until they are all dead or the targets are, calling a gang a leeroy gang just because you are losing and wish to dismiss the loss as unimportant is called denial.
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Crackzilla
The Shadow Order SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.14 19:25:00 -
[430]
Originally by: posteroid Bow your head and worship us then.
You spend entirely too much time avoiding death for our tastes. For as much time as you play more kills could be achieved. Yet this would involve risk.
When I've talked to folks that have flown with you I've heard the tactics described as mind numbingly boring. I've never argued that your tactics aren't effective. Only that the elimination of risk also removes any respect for BE.
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posteroid
im right your wrong
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Posted - 2008.05.14 19:29:00 -
[431]
Edited by: posteroid on 14/05/2008 19:35:47
Originally by: yunger
Try a few leeroy sometime, your k/d ratio will be worst but you will get more kills.
yunger
Corporation: Big Guns Inc. Alliance: Atlas Alliance Kills: 74 Real kills: 74 Losses: 5 Real losses: 3
Ok pal........
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yunger
Big Guns Inc. Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.14 19:31:00 -
[432]
Edited by: yunger on 14/05/2008 19:31:48 that my carrier mate. i swear. actually had it out fighting blobs solo 2 times won the first time thanks to a pos. second time tri though me that carriers can't solo kill 30 nano ships :(
Still miss the old scrapheap
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TroNaaR
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.14 19:32:00 -
[433]
This Thread is now about E-Peen
Mine may not be as long as yours... but its as big around as a beer can....
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posteroid
im right your wrong
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Posted - 2008.05.14 19:33:00 -
[434]
Originally by: *****zilla
You spend entirely too much time avoiding death for our tastes. For as much time as you play more kills could be achieved.
Like you cos your stats are a joke.
Corporation: The Shadow Order Alliance: SMASH Alliance Kills: 107 Real kills: 97 Losses: 19
Since: 2007-01-25
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TroNaaR
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.14 19:36:00 -
[435]
Originally by: posteroid
Originally by: *****zilla
You spend entirely too much time avoiding death for our tastes. For as much time as you play more kills could be achieved.
Like you cos your stats are a joke.
Corporation: The Shadow Order Alliance: SMASH Alliance Kills: 107 Real kills: 97 Losses: 19
Since: 2007-01-25
Strange... I dont see your toon on battleclinic... But I'll take ur word for it that your are elite... Who do I call to cancel my account?
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Faekurias
Cash Money Brothers R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.14 19:39:00 -
[436]
Edited by: Faekurias on 14/05/2008 19:42:27
Originally by: Shin Ra
Originally by: Kera Delacour
what's BE done?
Wayyyyyy more than you.
That doesn't answer the question, maybe you don't have an answer?
Quite honestly though, I've previously known about your WinRavens (I love torpravens myself).
And quite frankly I like your style a whole lot and see you as one of the best of what you do, but that doesn't make you the best of the best of what everyone does, regardless of what they're doing. I would love to see a honest answer to the previously stated question though.
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posteroid
im right your wrong
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Posted - 2008.05.14 19:42:00 -
[437]
Edited by: posteroid on 14/05/2008 19:44:44
Originally by: TroNaaR
Strange... I dont see your toon on battleclinic... But I'll take ur word for it that your are elite... Who do I call to cancel my account?
The BE kb is available for anybody to read as arte the top killers stats and tbh his 15 month stats would not be something our alts would be proud of for a month let alone 15 months.
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abraheam
Dirty Denizens
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Posted - 2008.05.14 19:47:00 -
[438]
Congratulations BE on beating up on the practice squad. These stats are like keeping score in a scrimage against the fourth stringers while the starting squad is winning a playoff game.
You should coach Xdeath, Solar, IRC, and ED on how to beat these guys. I am sure they would appreciate you telling them how weak they are.
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Sekhmet Orion
Mandatory Suicide Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.05.14 19:49:00 -
[439]
If you find yourself in the position where you have to continually boast about your achievements, and how great you are, then chances are that the concept of reputation was misplaced along your journey somewhere.
Once upon a time, Burn Edens enemies would post threads complementing them, and describing them as ruthless and efficient.
Now all we get is some insane alt fan boy dragging Burns Edens name through the mud (Posteroid).
Shin Ra, if you are in need of some exposure, then I would highly recommend recruiting a new PR agent, your current, foaming mouthed puppy, is doing your name far more harm than good in this thread.
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posteroid
im right your wrong
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Posted - 2008.05.14 19:52:00 -
[440]
Originally by: Sekhmet Orion words
Bitter much?.
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Sekhmet Orion
Mandatory Suicide Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.05.14 19:56:00 -
[441]
Originally by: posteroid
Originally by: Sekhmet Orion words
Bitter much?.
You read that and your interpretation was bitter? Education these days is not what it used to be.
If your mission is to wreck Burn Edens reputation, and replace it with the impression that they are a bunch of smack talking 12 year olds, chest beating about statistics. Then carry on, you're doing a great job so far
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posteroid
im right your wrong
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Posted - 2008.05.14 20:04:00 -
[442]
Edited by: posteroid on 14/05/2008 20:04:30
Originally by: Sekhmet Orion more drivel
The first 12 pages were entertaining but i personally got sick of being told that all we killed were nubs and leerooy fleets and that we would get more kills doing the same.
When after a bit of KB research clearly showed these uber killer leerooy boys have less kills in a year or more than most of our alts get in a month let alone our mains.
Now if you do not like my posting or find my point inconvenient join the club.
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Sekhmet Orion
Mandatory Suicide Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.05.14 20:11:00 -
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Originally by: posteroid
Originally by: Sekhmet Orion truth hurts
fyp
Now do yourself a favour, and drink 2 glasses of water before going to bed, you will feel much better in the morning.
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posteroid
im right your wrong
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Posted - 2008.05.14 20:14:00 -
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Edited by: posteroid on 14/05/2008 20:14:37
Originally by: Sekhmet Orion truth hurts
I guess thats why theres so many bitter SK/atlas posters telling us how getting owned in their own space does not matter. Goon clones/alts do ya think???.
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King Hopy
Beasts of Burden R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.14 20:19:00 -
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Maybe you should post with your main if you are in Burn Eden.
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King Hopy
Beasts of Burden R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.14 20:20:00 -
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Originally by: posteroid Edited by: posteroid on 14/05/2008 20:14:37
Originally by: Sekhmet Orion truth hurts
I guess thats why theres so many bitter SK/atlas posters telling us how getting owned in their own space does not matter. Goon clones/alts do ya think???.
Also maybe you should pay attention to the fact that where we are fighting we take as many losses and make as many kills in a few days. Puts your "achievement" into proper scale.
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posteroid
im right your wrong
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Posted - 2008.05.14 20:25:00 -
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Originally by: King Hopy
Also maybe you should pay attention to the fact that where we are fighting we take as many losses and make as many kills in a few days. Puts your "achievement" into proper scale.
REALY??? I had no idea you invade with only 8 ppl and get all those kills (and be honest a lot more losses), id love to see the links and praise the 8 pilots for such a great achievement...
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King Hopy
Beasts of Burden R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.14 20:29:00 -
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Where did I say we only used 8 people and only took that few losses?
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yunger
Big Guns Inc. Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.14 20:33:00 -
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Edited by: yunger on 14/05/2008 20:34:02 Edited by: yunger on 14/05/2008 20:33:16 I would like to appoint
Bobby atlas for getting my corp mates killed while i¦m at school hiding Peoke for making sure half of eve hates us so we get lots of fights and dastommy because i miss reading his ranting in the forums and now feel a need to replace him to make sure caod gets regular drunk posts
With that said while we can all respect a guy with loots of kills, but sitting cloaked waiting for easy targets doesn't make you are hero. If all that counted was k/d ratio then tell your friends to bow down to the mighty titan pilots who regularly kill tens of ships in one blast yet rarely seem to die.
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posteroid
im right your wrong
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Posted - 2008.05.14 20:33:00 -
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Originally by: King Hopy Where did I say we only used 8 people and only took that few losses?
Oh i thought you were comparing us to each other?.
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Thoran Karlien
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.14 20:38:00 -
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Well... it is my turn of duty as a forum whorrior...
Originally by: posteroid Who cares about your wallets its ours that get filled from ratting you morons in your own systems
Mhmm... so you care about your internetpixel wallets... like the lvl 4 mission running carebear? taking no risk, just see your wallet grow? cool...
Best analogy i came up with was like a big army and an enemy skirmish group... yeah, the skirmisher are the elite, they are better equipt, better trained and have better k/d ratios... but to be honest... be as such a group is really just too small to be felt.
Well, except the "no caviar" nights... those really sucks, when you managed to gank a supply ship :-(
I had three contacts with the BE campaign. granted i don't really reside on that side, but anyway.. the first was the anouncement you would come the second was a bs kill with a prominent name of yours on the loosing side the thrid was this abonimation of a thread
Now there are only three things left to say: I am not an english natural speaker, so yes, you can flame me for me grip of the english language
My kill stats are abyssmal, i am no elite pvper nor will i ever be one
Elite groups who only recruit the elite will die, if they don't change... hope be will change, or perhaps this was already the beginning of the end. ____________________________ Whine : The only FOTM than never gets nerved or out of style! |
posteroid
im right your wrong
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Posted - 2008.05.14 20:46:00 -
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Edited by: posteroid on 14/05/2008 20:47:55
Originally by: Thoran Karlien
Elite groups who only recruit the elite will die, if they don't change... hope be will change, or perhaps this was already the beginning of the end.
Yea cos the changes over the next few days are gonna really cripple us i mean its not like BE has been going since 2003. So tell me again how to keep a corp going in eve mr 2006 as your obviously highly knowledgeable on the subject.............
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King Hopy
Beasts of Burden R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.14 20:51:00 -
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Originally by: posteroid Edited by: posteroid on 14/05/2008 20:47:55
Originally by: Thoran Karlien
Elite groups who only recruit the elite will die, if they don't change... hope be will change, or perhaps this was already the beginning of the end.
Yea cos the changes over the next few days are gonna really cripple us i mean its not like BE has been going since 2003. So tell me again how to keep a corp going in eve mr 2006 as your obviously highly knowledgeable on the subject.............
Just a question. What will you do when the cloaking on non specialized ships gets nerfed?
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Porgy
Foundation R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.14 20:52:00 -
[454]
oooh ooh I can play this game! How bout this:
I know you are but what am I?
Did I do it right? _______________________
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posteroid
im right your wrong
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Posted - 2008.05.14 20:55:00 -
[455]
Edited by: posteroid on 14/05/2008 20:55:19
Originally by: King Hopy
Originally by: posteroid
Originally by: Thoran Karlien
Elite groups who only recruit the elite will die, if they don't change... hope be will change, or perhaps this was already the beginning of the end.
Yea cos the changes over the next few days are gonna really cripple us i mean its not like BE has been going since 2003. So tell me again how to keep a corp going in eve mr 2006 as your obviously highly knowledgeable on the subject.............
Just a question. What will you do when the cloaking on non specialized ships gets nerfed?
You mean how will we adapt like we did with stabs and all the other things we adapted around after they were nerfed over the last 4+ years???.
I guess you will have to wait and see.
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Crackzilla
The Shadow Order SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.14 21:29:00 -
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Originally by: posteroid
What you and others fail to realize is that BE use cloaks mostly to avoid having to jump from safe to safe while in hostile space thus avoiding getting probed and blobbed, now there are other reasons but this is the main one and it effects us negatively in actual combat by reducing lock time.
I'm sure any titan pilot out there would use the same reasoning.
At the end of the day cloaks allow you to pick your targets with zero risk. Enagage when you wish against easy targets. Avoid combat against what could kill you.
What we get are entire gangs/fleets that are cloaked off of a gate. Tacklers, dictors, webbers, dps. Combined with a scout in the next system anyone jumping through the gate must take a risk while you do not.
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Kera Delacour
Evenstar Industries
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Posted - 2008.05.14 21:29:00 -
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Edited by: Kera Delacour on 14/05/2008 21:31:34
Originally by: Shin Ra
Originally by: Kera Delacour
what's BE done?
Wayyyyyy more than you.
Wow? More than a carebear living in high-sec? I'm impressed... really :)
Originally by: Ghaelsto Kakram
Guess you missed the gazillion posts about BE'd downtime TS invitations.
Um... how exactly does this impact the game? Yes it's a nice service... but I'd argue that Eve fitting tool, Evemon, The ore website, eveinfo, the EVE Maps, EVE Meep and any number of other sites provide more of a service than that.
Those are all run, by the way, by individuals.... so I'm still wondering how you figure you've had more of an impact on the game than any other alliance? Let alone individuals. That was YOUR claim, not mine :) I'm just reading a forum and observing and asking questions. Sorry if you don't like the honest truth but the fact is that you have done bupkis to influence the course of events in EVE. A ganker gang on a gate is hardly ground shaking in the grand scheme of galactic politics. ----------- EVNS, bringing quality carebearing to a solar system near you! |
Kera Delacour
Evenstar Industries
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Posted - 2008.05.14 21:31:00 -
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Originally by: *****zilla
Originally by: posteroid
What you and others fail to realize is that BE use cloaks mostly to avoid having to jump from safe to safe while in hostile space thus avoiding getting probed and blobbed, now there are other reasons but this is the main one and it effects us negatively in actual combat by reducing lock time.
I'm sure any titan pilot out there would use the same reasoning.
At the end of the day cloaks allow you to pick your targets with zero risk. Enagage when you wish against easy targets. Avoid combat against what could kill you.
What we get are entire gangs/fleets that are cloaked off of a gate. Tacklers, dictors, webbers, dps. Combined with a scout in the next system anyone jumping through the gate must take a risk while you do not.
Don't forget the TS spies. God forbid they should engage without actually knowing what the enemy is doing as they're doing it. ----------- EVNS, bringing quality carebearing to a solar system near you! |
Crackzilla
The Shadow Order SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.14 21:35:00 -
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Originally by: Kera Delacour Don't forget the TS spies.
Very true. Gotta have TS spies or how else would you know when to alt-tab from WoW to Eve?
Best to be afk and cloaked then take any chances.
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posteroid
im right your wrong
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Posted - 2008.05.14 21:42:00 -
[460]
Edited by: posteroid on 14/05/2008 21:43:14
Originally by: *****zilla
I'm sure any titan pilot out there would use the same reasoning.
At the end of the day cloaks allow you to pick your targets with zero risk. Enagage when you wish against easy targets. Avoid combat against what could kill you.
What we get are entire gangs/fleets that are cloaked off of a gate. Tacklers, dictors, webbers, dps. Combined with a scout in the next system anyone jumping through the gate must take a risk while you do not.
NO i do not think that titan pilots can warp between safes to avoid getting probed like conventional ships (they are hardly the most nimble of chappies) tbh so its not the same.
We avoid combat against uber blobs but we will engage outnumbered just not stupidly outnumbered where losing all our ships is a virtual certainty.
Warping from safe to safe until a valid target/targets arrive would stop probers from catching us just the same but would be a bit of a pain tbh but is also risk free.
PS: We sometimes have spies we sometimes do not it depends on the alliance but then name me a alliance that does not....
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Crackzilla
The Shadow Order SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.14 21:59:00 -
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Edited by: *****zilla on 14/05/2008 22:00:13
Originally by: posteroid NO i do not think that titan pilots can warp between safes to avoid getting probed like conventional ships (they are hardly the most nimble of chappies) tbh so its not the same.
Actually titans can warp from safe to safe; just like any other ship. No rational super cap pilot would do this as a cloak offers a vastly superior alternative.
I would agree with cloaks being a balanced option besides jumping safe spots except for two issues. One is that cloaks have no chance of being probed. And two they make safe spots obsolete when you can use an off grid sling, warp back to the gate, then cloak.
Cloaks allow you to sit off a gate and engage when the risk is perceived to be minimal. Cloaks remove risks for super caps just as they do for gangs of tacklers/dps.
Originally by: posteroid
Warping from safe to safe until a valid target/targets arrive would stop probers from catching us just the same but would be a bit of a pain tbh but is also risk free.
Mostly chance based. There is a small window where you can be probed. Of course this is unacceptable when cloaks offer no risk and the convenience of being staged at a sniper spot and already aligned.
Originally by: posteroid
PS: We sometimes have spies we sometimes do not it depends on the alliance but then name me a alliance that does not....
Reasonable enough. Now where do I signup to get my spy into your alliance and whats is the logon info to listen to your voice coms (and not just guest)? No?
So you admit to meta gaming and to using spies to reduce risk? Is this something to be proud of? Seems to me that once you cross this line then pvp becomes who has the better spies. Since small corps will have fewer spies then small corps must be better right?
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Thoran Karlien
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.14 21:59:00 -
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Originally by: posteroid Edited by: posteroid on 14/05/2008 20:47:55 Yea cos the changes over the next few days are gonna really cripple us i mean its not like BE has been going since 2003. So tell me again how to keep a corp going in eve mr 2006 as your obviously highly knowledgeable on the subject.............
Since 2003? oh wow... that would make you... wow... like really really old...
And I never said int he next few days... but next year? the year after? you still sure be will be around? When the big boyz are playing with their tech 2 titans and you sit on gates and gank people? still having fun, when you get your 9000 to zero k/d while other have lagfree 200 vs 200 battles?
Hasn't a member just recently left the corp? Found a replacement? One that is uber enough to join? ____________________________ Whine : The only FOTM than never gets nerved or out of style! |
posteroid
im right your wrong
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Posted - 2008.05.14 22:20:00 -
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Originally by: *****zilla
Originally by: posteroid NO i do not think that titan pilots can warp between safes to avoid getting probed like conventional ships (they are hardly the most nimble of chappies) tbh so its not the same.
Actually titans can warp from safe to safe; just like any other ship. No rational super cap pilot would do this as a cloak offers a vastly superior alternative.
That because they would proly be probed long before they got to warp as a titan is as slow as hell to warp.
We do it cos its convenient as well so we do not need to jump safes, and do not forget for doing so we cannot lock for 10 seconds after dropping cloak and also have a much slower lock time and for a BS thats a loooong time.
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Sekhmet Orion
Mandatory Suicide Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.05.14 22:26:00 -
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Originally by: posteroid froth rant froth
I see you are still throwing toys out the pram.
You are going to have a headache tomorrow, I told you to drink water.
If anyone is bitter here, it is obviously you, as you don't seem to get the recognition you once had. No matter how much you stomp your little feet, nobody is really bothered about you. Does that upset you?
It's sad to see the good name of burn Eden fade into the past, but with people like you representing them, its not ******* surprising
As for me being a Roadkill/Smash/Atlas alt..you covered your bases there, but you are miles away. It's not hard to work it out, but I guess your intell is as good as your intellect.
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Thoran Karlien
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.14 22:26:00 -
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We leave the bad locking time to you, you leave us the super cap probing, okay? Because you don't want to do the "boring" stuff, right? ____________________________ Whine : The only FOTM than never gets nerved or out of style! |
Crackzilla
The Shadow Order SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.14 22:28:00 -
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Originally by: posteroid do not forget for doing so we cannot lock for 10 seconds after dropping cloak
Scouts help in giving a heads up whats going through the gate. This is also what disposable out of corp dictors/tacklers are for.
Originally by: posteroid ...and also have a much slower lock time and for a BS thats a loooong time.
Countered with a <finger quotes>"Sensor Booster"</finger quotes>. Anything that doesn't pop from the tacklers should be easy to lock for the battleships.
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posteroid
im right your wrong
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Posted - 2008.05.14 22:41:00 -
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Edited by: posteroid on 14/05/2008 22:43:35
Originally by: Thoran Karlien We leave the bad locking time to you, you leave us the super cap probing, okay? Because you don't want to do the "boring" stuff, right?
YES your finally your catching on.
Actually if you consider the average age of a BE member is about 3 or 4 years in eve or longer for some we have done the whole frozen screen blob fight, and the "we are uber we own space" bit, we have killed capitals we have killed titans some of us have planned and led fleet ops with and against capitals and titans with hundreds of conventional ships.
To summarize we have done most if not all of the things that you think makes you important at the moment, and got bored with it a long time ago as it involves holding the hands of morons who will never learn. So we fly together with others who know their jobs without having to be told, we do not have or need a FC's because of our individual combat xp, although our TS is always active during combat with ppl giving intel on themselves or others.
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posteroid
im right your wrong
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Posted - 2008.05.14 22:47:00 -
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Originally by: *****zilla
Countered with a <finger quotes>"Sensor Booster"</finger quotes>. Anything that doesn't pop from the tacklers should be easy to lock for the battleships.
Remember we fly sniping ships so in the past it was easier before scripts to hit at long range and have a good lock time with a cloak but now its a bit more difficult although we do and have worked out a fit that allows us a reasonably good locking time while still allowing us to snipe.
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Thoran Karlien
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.14 22:50:00 -
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Originally by: posteroid Actually if you consider the average age of a BE member is about 3 or 4 years in eve or longer for some we have done the whole frozen screen blob fight, and the "we are uber we own space" bit, we have killed capitals we have killed titans some of us have planned and led fleet ops with and against capitals and titans with hundreds of conventional ships.
To summarize we have done most if not all of the things that you think makes you important at the moment, and got bored with it a long time ago as it involves holding the hands of morons who will never learn. So we fly together with others who know their jobs without having to be told, we do not have or need a FC's because of this although our TS is always active during combat with ppl giving intel on themselves or others.
You know... lag isn't as bad as earlier... so the "laggy" fleet battles isn't really helping you in your arguments... yes, lag happens, but there have to be quite a few more people than earlier...
And you left the whole spaceholding behind... since 2003... a lot has changed... but some of the changes you caught, like the jump bridges... no fooling you...
I never said I was important... actually I am quite happy being a small cog in the whole, thank you, I am just fine
And so you basicly are snotty brats, who where never able to teach, because the attitude got in the way? Never learned what makes a true leader?
Oh and btw, there are still a few questions unanswered... about everyone that doesn't fit in your way of thinking... but don't worry, most people will be able to figure out the answers themselves.
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SATAN
BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2008.05.14 22:54:00 -
[470]
Is this still going?
WTF...
Guys who ever this Posteroid guy is just ignore him, I do not tolerate alt posting and if I find out he really is a UDIE member he will be flying a Vigil for the next few months.
And I gotta say SmashKill, you really do deserve Peoke as your leader.
PS. Peoke do any of these guy even know that it was us who saved you multiple times from being slapped silly by F-E? Or Stain alliance? etc.. etc.. etc..
Anyways have fun and Gank you later.
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posteroid
im right your wrong
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Posted - 2008.05.14 22:55:00 -
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Originally by: Thoran Karlien
Originally by: posteroid Actually if you consider the average age of a BE member is about 3 or 4 years in eve or longer for some we have done the whole frozen screen blob fight, and the "we are uber we own space" bit, we have killed capitals we have killed titans some of us have planned and led fleet ops with and against capitals and titans with hundreds of conventional ships.
To summarize we have done most if not all of the things that you think makes you important at the moment, and got bored with it a long time ago as it involves holding the hands of morons who will never learn. So we fly together with others who know their jobs without having to be told, we do not have or need a FC's because of this although our TS is always active during combat with ppl giving intel on themselves or others.
The bitter bleating of a sheep.
I agree you most certainly on one of your points you most certainly are a small c**k in a big hole.
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Sekhmet Orion
Mandatory Suicide Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.05.14 23:01:00 -
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Originally by: SATAN Is this still going?
WTF...
Guys who ever this Posteroid guy is just ignore him, I do not tolerate alt posting and if I find out he really is a UDIE member he will be flying a Vigil for the next few months.
Well said SATAN, you guys have got a legacy. At the moment the little puppy Posteroid is doing his best to kill it. IF he ever was associated with you, I hope you kicked him.
Fly safe, and ask OP to close this thread before the lunatic does you more damage
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HellsRazor
Caldari Priory Of The Lemon R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.14 23:03:00 -
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Originally by: SATAN Is this still going?
WTF...
Guys who ever this Posteroid guy is just ignore him, I do not tolerate alt posting and if I find out he really is a UDIE member he will be flying a Vigil for the next few months.
And I gotta say SmashKill, you really do deserve Peoke as your leader.
PS. Peoke do any of these guy even know that it was us who saved you multiple times from being slapped silly by F-E? Or Stain alliance? etc.. etc.. etc..
Anyways have fun and Gank you later.
You do know founders of Roadkill are old Stain Alliance corps. Alot of old Stainers.
and posteroid I swear it went from.. "I use to be BE" to "I am in BE". unless I read wrong.
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Thoran Karlien
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.14 23:06:00 -
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Originally by: SATAN Is this still going?
WTF...
Guys who ever this Posteroid guy is just ignore him, I do not tolerate alt posting and if I find out he really is a UDIE member he will be flying a Vigil for the next few months.
Well, thank you for clarifying... after a few of shinra's posts it was certainly a possibility that the alt was truely one of yours. I take your word for it and truely hope his attitude isn't BE's attitude. My apologies if I offended the true spokesmen of BE in my attacks of the troll.
Have fun in the game, fly safe, or make other not fly safe, Thoran Karlien ____________________________ Whine : The only FOTM than never gets nerved or out of style! |
DHB WildCat
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2008.05.14 23:23:00 -
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Edited by: DHB WildCat on 14/05/2008 23:24:27 Geeez! The simple truth is that we fight for fun. We do not enjoy 300 vs 300 fights. I do not enjoy 5 minute module lag, or even worse the 4 hours of prep before hand, and then the fight that "might" ensue.
With that being said, what we do isnt fun for everyone either. I will admit that. What we do takes patience and the ability to run at least 3 accounts at once.
We have to engage outnumbered, thats another simple truth. We have only 10ish active pilots and there is no one in EVE that says hey they have 5 guys, so lets bring 5 or less to have a good fight. They will bring as many people as who wants to come. So we HAVE to utilize the tactics that allow us to engage outnumbered 5-10 to 1, and we are f*cking good at it. I would like to have a slug fest from time to time, but then again when does anyone not blob people these days?
So in the end its up to whatever people like, and IMO a small group that can go into hostile space with local at or always above 50 hostiles; and comes away with 50 billion in loot, and a K/D ratio that allows for isk making. Then maybe they are better than those that had more? Maybe not? Its a personal call. I have every right to say I'm better than you as much as you can say it to me. So lets end this crappy bickering, let the thread die, and move on.
Now back to Columbo and my retirement, oh btw I am kicking Poster in the nuts now that we know who he is 8)
WildCat
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Faekurias
Cash Money Brothers R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.14 23:37:00 -
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Originally by: DHB WildCat Edited by: DHB WildCat on 14/05/2008 23:24:27 Geeez! The simple truth is that we fight for fun. We do not enjoy 300 vs 300 fights. I do not enjoy 5 minute module lag, or even worse the 4 hours of prep before hand, and then the fight that "might" ensue.
With that being said, what we do isnt fun for everyone either. I will admit that. What we do takes patience and the ability to run at least 3 accounts at once.
We have to engage outnumbered, thats another simple truth. We have only 10ish active pilots and there is no one in EVE that says hey they have 5 guys, so lets bring 5 or less to have a good fight. They will bring as many people as who wants to come. So we HAVE to utilize the tactics that allow us to engage outnumbered 5-10 to 1, and we are f*cking good at it. I would like to have a slug fest from time to time, but then again when does anyone not blob people these days?
So in the end its up to whatever people like, and IMO a small group that can go into hostile space with local at or always above 50 hostiles; and comes away with 50 billion in loot, and a K/D ratio that allows for isk making. Then maybe they are better than those that had more? Maybe not? Its a personal call. I have every right to say I'm better than you as much as you can say it to me. So lets end this crappy bickering, let the thread die, and move on.
Now back to Columbo and my retirement, oh btw I am kicking Poster in the nuts now that we know who he is 8)
WildCat
This post is the best post of today : 10/10 and you're tonights dreamboy.
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Tzujeih
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2008.05.14 23:45:00 -
[477]
Hey guys, whats up?
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Faekurias
Cash Money Brothers R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.14 23:48:00 -
[478]
Edited by: Faekurias on 14/05/2008 23:52:04 Me, I'm what's up, although supposed to sleep for hours. Want Soup? Sig locked, abuse of use - for more information mail [email protected] |
D'ceet
Shadows of the Dead R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.15 04:07:00 -
[479]
LOOKIT MEEEE! LOOKIT MEE!!!!!!!1!!111!
this alt war has gone on too long.. its over, its done. let it be. Official D'ceet CSM Page.
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Evil Pookie
BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2008.05.15 05:14:00 -
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This old girls still got some life in her.
/me pokes the thread a few times
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Riddal
The Older Gamers R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.18 23:08:00 -
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Originally by: Evil Pookie This old girls still got some life in her.
/me pokes the thread a few times
keep it going
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Llaneza
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Posted - 2008.05.18 23:52:00 -
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Wait, Burn Eden sieged Geminate ? Was I afk ?
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