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Phelan Driscoll GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.05.23 21:47:00 - [121] Originally by: cimmaron ops forgot, and make up a bunch of kills to inflate your heads after your titan got smoked. Look at how stupid you are. snip Signature is totally inappropriate and not allowed on EvE Forums. Contact us at [email protected] if you have any queries - Valorem
Goumindong Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.05.23 22:02:00 - [122] Originally by: cimmaron Your right, we can play this game all day, my problem isnt with you, its with the immature post made by the OP. My problem is with the blind(and to be frank silly) support that Goon gives each other, even when its obviously a stupid idea or suggestion. This is not true.
OldPueblo DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.05.23 22:05:00 - [123] Originally by: Goumindong Originally by: cimmaron Your right, we can play this game all day, my problem isnt with you, its with the immature post made by the OP. My problem is with the blind(and to be frank silly) support that Goon gives each other, even when its obviously a stupid idea or suggestion. This is not true. I blindly support this.
Sally Bestonge GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.05.23 22:26:00 - [124] Originally by: OldPueblo Originally by: Goumindong Originally by: cimmaron Your right, we can play this game all day, my problem isnt with you, its with the immature post made by the OP. My problem is with the blind(and to be frank silly) support that Goon gives each other, even when its obviously a stupid idea or suggestion. This is not true. I blindly support this. stop quoting people on my ignore list
Yorda Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.05.23 22:33:00 - [125] Originally by: cimmaron Edited by: cimmaron on 23/05/2008 21:14:51 Edited by: cimmaron on 23/05/2008 21:12:16 Originally by: Idaeus Edited by: Idaeus on 23/05/2008 21:07:11 You're not a space enemy, you're a speedbump on the road to giving Geminate to Noob Mercs. lol, what have you kids done besides lose a titan to us, spam local a bunch and lag out m-m a few times? Exactly...oops forgot, and make up a bunch of kills to inflate your heads after your titan got smoked. Faking KMs AND "killed your titan" in one post? Oh cimmaron, you out do yourself. Originally by: nlewis jammers are the meatshield [Bob] wish their pets were
Helene Corday News From Nowhere	Posted - 2008.05.23 22:59:00 - [126] This thread is comedy gold. Monkeys throwing poo around is sometimes amusing.
Zemi Dahut GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.05.23 23:04:00 - [127] I can't believe you guys are getting trolled so hard by cimmaron
Helene Corday News From Nowhere	Posted - 2008.05.23 23:07:00 - [128] Originally by: Zemi Dahut I can't believe you guys are getting trolled so hard by cimmaron Quite so. I thought you boys were supposed to be the experts at trolling. Better raise your game :)
Bad Harlequin Chiroptera Factor	Posted - 2008.05.23 23:18:00 - [129] Hmmm. Originally by: Darius JOHNSON Since I'm the CEO of Goonswarm I think I might know what we stand for. I don't recall ever causing for disruption or any of the other fanciful things you're referring to. Originally by: Darius JOHNSON Goons post what Goons want to post and play how they want to play. ... well I don't fly around and tell anyone else how to play or act ... Lighten up ffs. I see your point, but these various statements are incompatible. The first two negate each other, and as for the last... well, i know it's popular for pirates to act all jaded and "we don't care.. not really.. we don't!" and free of all negative emotions, but uhm. We're debating a virtual democratic system in an interwebz spaceshipz game. Let's stop fooling ourselves and just freely admit, at least to each other, that we do in fact give a damn, okay? Zleip > very, and this is more or less a post of humor that seriousness =)
Tommy TenKreds Animal Mercantile Executive	Posted - 2008.05.23 23:24:00 - [130] ITT: Opportunity to point and laugh at goons while enjoying their sweet loser tears. They don't take tha game seriously ya'know. Bandures > tommy you like a cowboy harry )

Darius JOHNSON GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.05.23 23:34:00 - [131] Originally by: Bad Harlequin Hmmm. Originally by: Darius JOHNSON Since I'm the CEO of Goonswarm I think I might know what we stand for. I don't recall ever causing for disruption or any of the other fanciful things you're referring to. Originally by: Darius JOHNSON Goons post what Goons want to post and play how they want to play. ... well I don't fly around and tell anyone else how to play or act ... Lighten up ffs. I see your point, but these various statements are incompatible. The first two negate each other, and as for the last... well, i know it's popular for pirates to act all jaded and "we don't care.. not really.. we don't!" and free of all negative emotions, but uhm. We're debating a virtual democratic system in an interwebz spaceshipz game. Let's stop fooling ourselves and just freely admit, at least to each other, that we do in fact give a damn, okay? Um... the two statements are not incompatible or even closely related in any way. Telling people what to do and how to post compared to some mystery mission statement calling for the downfall of eve are not related in any way. I can see that your post is not made in anger, but you are wrong about the two being incompatible. The statements are not related to each other in any way.
El'Niaga Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.05.24 10:27:00 - [132] I'm sure that all the CSM members have been given a list of offenses that would lead to their dismissal. It is not necessary for us to be involved. Though I do wonder about term length....
LaVista Vista Conservative Shenanigans Party	Posted - 2008.05.24 10:50:00 - [133] Originally by: El'Niaga I'm sure that all the CSM members have been given a list of offenses that would lead to their dismissal. It is not necessary for us to be involved. Though I do wonder about term length.... Which, as far as I understand, be any violation of the EULA or NDA.
Bentula	Posted - 2008.05.24 13:26:00 - [134] Originally by: LaVista Vista Which, as far as I understand, be any violation of the EULA or NDA. Is there something like a graceperiod? I think the goonies should atleast be allowed to take part in the first session.
Bad Harlequin Chiroptera Factor	Posted - 2008.05.24 18:25:00 - [135] Originally by: Darius JOHNSON Telling people what to do and how to post compared to some mystery mission statement calling for Aha. Looking again, i see sloppy typing by you and sloppy reading by me: you originally said causing, when you meant calling for. Obviously there's a difference, my Bad(tm). Zleip > very, and this is more or less a post of humor that seriousness =)
jm24 GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.05.26 04:58:00 - [136] I support this
Jowen Datloran Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2008.05.26 08:14:00 - [137] This proposal gets two thumps down and one middle finger up. ---------------- Mr. Science & Trade Institute
Emily Gray	Posted - 2008.05.26 11:56:00 - [138] Agreed.
Frost 1232	Posted - 2008.05.27 13:19:00 - [139] Edited by: Frost 1232 on 27/05/2008 13:41:03 Edited by: Frost 1232 on 27/05/2008 13:35:00 Originally by: LASER WATCHER Originally by: Dingi223 There was a democratic process, and the Please be assured that this applies to any CSM Chairman at all, and that if we were to accidentally elect someone with autism/is deaf, then we should get a chance to fix it. That a pretty horrible thing to say made worse by your ignorance. A lot of Autistic people have a massive IQ and are genious's, I even met a Autistic teenager who made a complete computer modal of a nuclear reactor!. So your foolish belief that they are some how inferior is utter crap epically due to the fact that most of them ended up As high contributing members of society.
procurement specialist	Posted - 2008.05.27 17:11:00 - [140] I doubt anyone with a severe enough disability to impair CSM function would be elected. I imagine that in the event of death the alternates get called up. I only support the no confidence vote in cases where a council person (any not just chair) is detrimental to teh functioning of the CSM. US people it would be like someone who routinely tries to fillibuster in teh senate by them self to prevent something they dislike from happeneing. The other rules about NDA and such should already cover everything else.

Ahro Thariori	Posted - 2008.05.27 19:26:00 - [141]
Lyra Garris PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris	Posted - 2008.05.28 01:12:00 - [142] Yes with a but. The CSM is in the best position to determine the effectiveness of their leadership. The CSM body should be allowed to force their chairman to stand down if the chairman is doing something wrong, but the public should have no say in the direct process. They can call for a vote of no confidence but should not be allowed to influence it. Someone in the first page used the America analogy, and I didn't read the whole thread, so sorry if I'm repeating. The President is elected by a popular vote. however he cannot be impeached by a popular vote - He has to be impeached by Congress. This would be a similar protection, while also assuaging the fear that larger alliances will try to take over the position with voteblobs.
Unvisibility	Posted - 2008.05.28 05:45:00 - [143] After just watching Jade Constantine spend several hours posting on another forum and then delete all his posts, replacing them with "WALL OF TEXT" over and over again when he got ridiculed, vilified and had his "arguments" demolished I find myself totally supporting this thread. The current CSM chairman has some clear mental issues and the ability to replace him for his own good would be advisable I feel.
Christy Walton Bloodveil	Posted - 2008.05.28 12:48:00 - [144] Originally by: Unvisibility After just watching Jade Constantine spend several hours posting on another forum and then delete all his posts, replacing them with "WALL OF TEXT" over and over again when he got ridiculed, vilified and had his "arguments" demolished I find myself totally supporting this thread. The current CSM chairman has some clear mental issues and the ability to replace him for his own good would be advisable I feel. He did the same at our old forums, replaced his 3 pages post with NVM. He's childish and has no maturity to keep the position that his friends with their amounts of alts could give him.
Squirrrel Squirrrel Industries	Posted - 2008.05.28 21:14:00 - [145] In short. No. In full. Thanks, but no thanks.
Talkuth Rel Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.05.30 23:21:00 - [146] I won't support this specific idea, as it smacks too much of a personal attack before there has been enough time to accurately judge performance. However, I would favor a system which would facilitate the removal of any member of the CSM if it could be shown that their motives and actions were damaging to the aims and functioning of the council. I.e., if they are willfully obstructing and disrupting meetings, are unable or unwilling to perform their duties, or caught abusing their representative position.
Baron Levian Bloodveil BLOOD EMPIRE	Posted - 2008.06.07 03:50:00 - [147]
Lucias Trask Shadows of the Dead R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.06.07 06:21:00 - [148] Originally by: Vio Geraci Edited by: Vio Geraci on 22/05/2008 16:23:18 Originally by: Uzuki Shootmenow Lets just wait how the council and its members actually contribute and make our game better/worse, before casting a no-confidence vote? Clearly, because Jade has expressed no concern over GS member issues, this thread has started. I do not believe any of our issues have even been discussed by the council as of yet. What has happened is that Jade has made clear that his in-game biases and farcical real life political beliefs are going to inform his every decision as the CSM council chairman. Prior to now, I was uncertain as to whether he would conduct himself professionally or not --it has now been demonstrated to my satisfaction that he shall not, and that his emotional problems may prevent him from fulfilling his duties as chairman. He is trying to turn the entire CSM into his own personal dog show. Im down with the Jade dog show THUMBS DOWN!!! DOWN WITH GOONS!!! [PANIC]
Amandi Casimi Celestial Janissaries Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2008.06.07 07:01:00 - [149] Let neutrals be neutrals.
Sovereign533 Anoint	Posted - 2008.06.07 11:45:00 - [150] don't count this as a vote against the current chairman. BUT, if any chairman ****s up, we should be able to make a vote of no confidence.



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