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Triest
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.01.08 12:56:00 -
[421]
 Originally by: Triest
There's no point in bumping it. The topic has already been mentioned to CCP, they've done their typical 'we might look at it, maybe' response, and that's that. CSM have done their job (such as it is), and now we wait a couple years for CCP to actually do something themselves. If they want to.
Quoting myself to a new page of dumb people. CCP listened magnanimously on the topic, and might make changes. No need to bump/support/whatever. Democracy in action! Hold on to your seats, players of EVE!
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Chen Rossii
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Posted - 2009.01.08 19:20:00 -
[422]
Edited by: Chen Rossii on 08/01/2009 19:22:55
/me sign |
Captain Narmio
Baptism oF Fire
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Posted - 2009.01.09 00:20:00 -
[423]
Edited by: Captain Narmio on 09/01/2009 00:20:25
Originally by: Triest
Originally by: Triest
There's no point in bumping it. The topic has already been mentioned to CCP, they've done their typical 'we might look at it, maybe' response, and that's that. CSM have done their job (such as it is), and now we wait a couple years for CCP to actually do something themselves. If they want to.
Quoting myself to a new page of dumb people. CCP listened magnanimously on the topic, and might make changes. No need to bump/support/whatever. Democracy in action! Hold on to your seats, players of EVE!
Eh, don't bother. People will read the OP and reply with support long before they reach page 15. In fact, we should keep bumping these old already-agreed threads as much as we can, because in doing so CCP might actually adopt a policy of locking (or ideally moving to another forum created for the purpose) issue threads that have already gone up the chain.
Not doing so is pretty silly, because, as evidenced by this and many other threads, they distract voters and accomplish nothing. It should have been like that from the beginning. |
isdisco3
Reaper Industries
Eternal Rapture
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Posted - 2009.01.14 15:22:00 -
[424]
A principled bump for greater glory!
/me signs
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Rayokashi
Order of Anarchy
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Posted - 2009.01.16 11:22:00 -
[425]
I support this.
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Dark Fairy
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Posted - 2009.01.17 02:37:00 -
[426]
fix the niddy
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Yorda
Battlestars
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.01.18 06:00:00 -
[427]
Goonswarm has started giving a Caldari Dread book to any active alliance nag pilot.
This is how much the suck, the alliance is actually paying for people to train out of them. |
Asterisk Grat
Best Path Inc.
Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2009.01.20 02:29:00 -
[428]
Edited by: Asterisk Grat on 20/01/2009 02:30:35
Edited by: Asterisk Grat on 20/01/2009 02:30:23
Last I heard CCP is giving out Minmatar Dreadnaught skill books for free every other Monday and Wednesday. /end sarcasm
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Cpt Lumis
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Posted - 2009.01.28 16:30:00 -
[429]
Lets move this back to the front page again. |
Zenethalos
Noir.
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Posted - 2009.01.29 02:08:00 -
[430]
The caps are pretty crappy on the minmatar end not to mention over half of our other ships being pretty screwed up. I've given up on the Nag and have start to re-spec to Amarr. |
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Cpt Jagermeister
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.29 06:25:00 -
[431]
****, they haven't resolved this yet? |
Buzz Lightqueer
Dragon Lancers
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Posted - 2009.01.29 10:18:00 -
[432]
You forgot to mention how ugly they are. |
pc dude
Ghosts of Ragnarok
True Reign
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Posted - 2009.01.29 19:42:00 -
[433]
Originally by: Buzz Light*****
You forgot to mention how ugly they are.
what do u mean? that's the only thing they have going for them. hel is sexy, and didn't u hear everyone say that's what balanced the nag? it is verticle after all |
SephusS
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Posted - 2009.01.29 19:43:00 -
[434]
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Yorda
Battlestars
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.01.30 00:35:00 -
[435]
I kinda wanna change the OP to Fix the Nag, Hel, and Ragnarok instead of nidhoggur + nag cuz I like the nidhoggur. It's a great ship as long as you suicide fit it with triage and 4 remote reps. The rest of them suck though.
I guess the rag is okay as long as you dont care about gang bonuses. It's a shame the lev does everything it does but better though. |
G'rin
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Posted - 2009.01.30 02:09:00 -
[436]
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Asterisk Grat
Best Path Inc.
Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2009.01.30 15:30:00 -
[437]
Originally by: Yorda
I kinda wanna change the OP to Fix the Nag, Hel, and Ragnarok instead of nidhoggur + nag cuz I like the nidhoggur. It's a great ship as long as you suicide fit it with triage and 4 remote reps. The rest of them suck though.
I guess the rag is okay as long as you dont care about gang bonuses. It's a shame the lev does everything it does but better though.
I think that will kinda ruin the voting that took place in this thread.
As for this thread my guess it is is to hope CCP finally notices it, and does recognize the problem.
Basically, their response has ZERO sense of satisfaction to it.
It can be translated into:
Even though we don't recognize what you're talking about, but when we do capital ships review we may look at it and when that might be we can't tell you.
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INsovietRussia
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Posted - 2009.02.02 23:23:00 -
[438]
bump |
Ed Gein
Malevolent Intentions
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Posted - 2009.02.10 09:14:00 -
[439]
Not sure if i should take the risk and buy me a nag or nid, just because i love the ships/look and pray they buff them. Or just cross train and get thany or moros instead.
Nid race bonus does not make sense at all, for being a matar ship. CCP crew drunk or smoked pot while doing this?
This should been fixed, when they were looking over nags slot layout.
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Korerin Mayul
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Posted - 2009.02.13 13:46:00 -
[440]
signed.
maby this is a good excuse to overhaul the capital art assets for the minmies - less of the old-school scrapheep challenge more of the resergent angrey looking lump of sculpted black mettal (see also the T3 concept art)
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Kweel Nakashyn
Kernel of War
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2009.02.14 07:41:00 -
[441]
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Saka Mizuno
The Graduates
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.02.15 19:20:00 -
[442]
Agreed
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Arekhon
0ff-Peak Esoteric Cutthroats
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Posted - 2009.02.16 20:26:00 -
[443]
signed...
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Greenbolt
Minmatar
The Suicide Kings
True Reign
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Posted - 2009.02.16 20:34:00 -
[444]
Originally by: pc dude
a boost will mean I won't break down and crosstrain the entire amarr skill trees ( and still be combat effective in rev almost as soon as nag being a well skilled minmatar bs pilot )
Funny enough..I am working on Amarr BS V at this time even though I can fly a nagflar now. Why? I want to be more effective and not on the short list of primaries for easiest to kill.
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Scordite -Who was it that said that flying minmatar is kinda like going down a flight of stairs on an office chair while firing an uzi? |
Shai 'Hulud
Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2009.02.18 15:55:00 -
[445]
/signed
I read through the majority of this thread, and I must say, such unanimity is rarely seen on these forums. Majority does not imply correctness, but this thread seems to be damning evidence of the Naglfar's needed buff. 
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Damien Vox
Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2009.02.18 17:55:00 -
[446]
/signed
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TimGascoigne
The Graduates
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.02.18 20:26:00 -
[447]
when Shrike last lost a titan there were 29 dreadnoughts [url=http://killboard.goonfleet.com/km/304971]involved[/url]. Only one of them was a naglfar and it was 24th for damage.
so basically only 1 in 30 dreads in eve that are being fielded. Are minmatar and thay hitting for disappointingly low damage. Of course we all already know this........ unless you are the game design team at CCP
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Yorda
Battlestars
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.18 21:02:00 -
[448]
Edited by: Yorda on 18/02/2009 21:01:45
Originally by: TimGascoigne
when Shrike last lost a titan there were 29 dreadnoughts [url=http://killboard.goonfleet.com/km/304971]involved[/url]. Only one of them was a naglfar and it was 24th for damage.
so basically only 1 in 30 dreads in eve that are being fielded. Are minmatar and thay hitting for disappointingly low damage. Of course we all already know this........ unless you are the game design team at CCP
We non-ironically asked Naglfars specifically to do something on an op and everyone was amazed we actually had a naglfar! It was a russian though so it doesn't really count as an anomaly.
I wouldn't even say 1/30 people fly the nag, discounting Russians I'd say it was closer to 1/100.
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06:36 11Thol that we cannot do this anymore
06:36 11Thol we're not no.1
06:36 11Thol we're not best of the best
06:36 11Thol we're average with alot of titans
06:36 11Thol ****ing wake up |
Maraleith
Gallente
The Culture Holding Corporation
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Posted - 2009.02.19 22:14:00 -
[449]
Guys
As I have posted before.
Please. Just stop whining.
CCP have acknowledged your concerns and promised to deliver a review of capitals. Don't hold your breath on any change as CCP simply don't care. They would have ensured something was done this coming patch if they did.
The Naglfar is the worst dread by an order of magnitude. You know it. They know it but CCP's lack of attention to rectification is a willfull conscious decision. It is not a function of prioritsation as capital changes have been mooted months ago. It is a deliberate game management decision.
Nothing you do or say will change it. No matter how right you are, no matter how valid your suggestions; CCP are incapable of admitting error and reacting quickly. That is the irrefutable conclusion to be drawn from past minnie ship rebalances.
CCP have openly stated they want noobs and not vets and capitals are a vet's toy. At 50k members, they are focussing on the bottom line and things that affect just a small portion of the player base such as minnie ships are ignored because not many pilots fly them.
Simply cross train into Amarr; they are now the FOTM ably supported by massive changes in their favour. It's the only solution to poor game design and CCP's arrogance in the lack of attention given to this ship.
You know it makes sense......
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SK Rooster
No Trademark
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Posted - 2009.02.19 23:32:00 -
[450]
Originally by: Yorda
The Naglfar:
In order to compete, the Naglfar needs to spend four of it's low slots on damage modules leaving it with a 5 slot shield tank. Unfortunatly it cannot target to sniping range without a sensor booster, so it is left with a 4 slot shield tank. This leaves it with the weakest tank and lowest effective hp of the four dreads. On top of this, it needs two co-processors to fit everything.
this is YOUR opinion, just because minmatar doesnt fit into your cookie cutter setup, doesnt mean it is useless. if you dont like the ship, train for another race that is more your style. this is not necessarily a matter of what race is 'better' but obviously more one of different from your playstyle.
that being said yes the naglfar sucks. how about get creative and put a triple trimark with 1x damage mod, and 1x captial armor rep. then you can put all the fukken sensor boosters you want. you are going to get outdamaged with 4x damage mods any way, so stop trying.
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