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Gamesguy Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.06.14 08:35:00 - [211] Originally by: ShardowRhino IF the russians are as big and bad as their supports want to suggest then why do they need allies? why not just steamroll the other groups as well? To suggest that RA could hold back, what was it 3k caldari militia members while being attacked by any alliance out there is kind of funny. Its funny because RA would need to put a large force 23/7 to block off the militia players. They would have to do this knowing that everyone in Eve is going to be watching. A protracted fight would definitely get some alliances thinking,planning and making some moves. IF for some reason no alliance makes a move against RA while the Russians deal with the militia players then every alliance out there would need to castrate themselves because the "empire noobs" are more then willing to fight a major alliance and they themselves are to scared to do anything against RA. You vastly overestimate the faction militia's abilities. The first time that rabble of caracals and drakes run into a real fleet it will die be hilarious to watch.
Shintai Balad Naran Orbital Shipyards	Posted - 2008.06.14 08:40:00 - [212] Originally by: El'Niaga Okay if the militias are going to engage in alliance warfare the alliances need the power to declare war on them... But its ok for alliances to engage the militas? How about they just stay in 0.0 if they cant stand the heat in lowsec... Abstraction and Transcendence: Nature, Shintai, and Geometry
Space Shifter Virulence. Insurgency	Posted - 2008.06.14 08:45:00 - [213] Originally by: Shintai Originally by: El'Niaga Okay if the militias are going to engage in alliance warfare the alliances need the power to declare war on them... But its ok for alliances to engage the militas? How about they just stay in 0.0 if they cant stand the heat in lowsec... Would be nice but alot of us who cant afford a 5 Bil isk jump Freighter or who travel from 0.0 to empire on Roams... kinda gotta go through the low sec's and lasttime i checked Tama was there way before FW was around... You also have alot of people who hunt the Ewbile Piwates of low sec and you are interfering with them... aswell
Shintai Balad Naran Orbital Shipyards	Posted - 2008.06.14 08:48:00 - [214] Originally by: Space Shifter Originally by: Shintai Originally by: El'Niaga Okay if the militias are going to engage in alliance warfare the alliances need the power to declare war on them... But its ok for alliances to engage the militas? How about they just stay in 0.0 if they cant stand the heat in lowsec... Would be nice but alot of us who cant afford a 5 Bil isk jump Freighter or who travel from 0.0 to empire on Roams... kinda gotta go through the low sec's and lasttime i checked Tama was there way before FW was around... You also have alot of people who hunt the Ewbile Piwates of low sec and you are interfering with them... aswell How is the saying again? Adapt or go hide in empire? Abstraction and Transcendence: Nature, Shintai, and Geometry
Space Shifter Virulence. Insurgency	Posted - 2008.06.14 08:49:00 - [215] All i'm saying is Stick to your FW warfare and have a Blast at it.... But you also have to learn whats going to happen if you start sticking your fingers into someone elses buisness... Your probley gonna get them Closed in the car door
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2008.06.14 09:04:00 - [216] Originally by: Lord Fitz The news item said STYX lost two motherships, and tried it again with BoB support and succeeded. (more recent news item you may not remember since it was immediately swamped by FW news items). Im out the loop then. Maybe 100 ospreys can succede. SKUNK
skogg	Posted - 2008.06.14 09:12:00 - [217] Originally by: Gamesguy [ You vastly overestimate the faction militia's abilities. The first time that rabble of caracals and drakes run into a real fleet it will be hilarious to watch. It will, but I have a feeling we will still be ahead on ISK.
Falcon Troy State Protectorate	Posted - 2008.06.14 09:14:00 - [218] Too funny. All these Alliance bears acting so butthurt because a few Caldari made fools of some RA members. _____________ Hai.
baltec1 Antares Shipyards	Posted - 2008.06.14 09:15:00 - [219] Originally by: Space Shifter All i'm saying is Stick to your FW warfare and have a Blast at it.... But you also have to learn whats going to happen if you start sticking your fingers into someone elses buisness... Your probley gonna get them Closed in the car door RA attacked us so it is they who are sticking their sticky fingers into someone elses war. They didnt come in to defend their logistics, they were cynoed in by a galente war target and started attacking us. Its only right that we returned the favor and destroyed the capital ships allied with our foe. Same goes for any allience who decide to attack any side in FW, expect retaliations
Io Burdane	Posted - 2008.06.14 09:17:00 - [220] If you professional 0.0 peeps don't like how things are done in Empire, perhaps you should just stay in 0.0. I don't doubt that the elite fleets could make good on all the dire threats being unveiled, but who cares? Whatever happens, you have my sympathy. You'll never, ever recover the "awesome PvP elite" tag in EvE (if you ever had it)and be looked up to by the carebear masses. It's got to hurt that hundreds, if not thousands of noobs are laughing at at one of the most feared alliances in game... what do they say? "it takes years to build a reputation, seconds to destroy it"

Falcon Troy State Protectorate	Posted - 2008.06.14 09:25:00 - [221] I'm actually anxious over the first 0.0 Alliance to launch a fleet against one of the militias. I will drink in the tears as another Alliance takes advantage of the situation and sweeps their territory. _____________ Hai.
Kelli Flay	Posted - 2008.06.14 09:26:00 - [222] Originally by: Kaishain Originally by: Merdaneth Originally by: Kaishain I think CCP should let alliances wardec militias OR disable militias from attacking "normal" players. Maybe CCP will, but then they would make it so that wardeccing alliances will be shot down in high-sec space by faction policy just as FW faction players would, effectively barring said alliances from a large part of high-sec. Why should militia pilots have that luxury in high sec when the appearantly can interfere with others business just like anyone else? When the militias decides to attack assets of outsider corps they should NOT have any protection from NPCs or gamemechanics. They should play on an even field. Do you mean like how Goons were allowed to swoop into Empire and suicide gank and afterwards, pick up their insurance payments? That would be being protected by game mechanics too right?
Space Shifter Virulence. Insurgency	Posted - 2008.06.14 09:31:00 - [223] Originally by: baltec1 Originally by: Space Shifter All i'm saying is Stick to your FW warfare and have a Blast at it.... But you also have to learn whats going to happen if you start sticking your fingers into someone elses buisness... Your probley gonna get them Closed in the car door RA attacked us so it is they who are sticking their sticky fingers into someone elses war. They didnt come in to defend their logistics, they were cynoed in by a galente war target and started attacking us. Its only right that we returned the favor and destroyed the capital ships allied with our foe. Same goes for any allience who decide to attack any side in FW, expect retaliations Think you need to start back at my first post and read down m8... Stay on Topic
Bersagliere Legionari Frontal Impact	Posted - 2008.06.14 09:46:00 - [224] Go caldari go! kill the ebilZ RA
baltec1 Antares Shipyards	Posted - 2008.06.14 11:10:00 - [225] Originally by: Space Shifter Originally by: baltec1 Originally by: Space Shifter All i'm saying is Stick to your FW warfare and have a Blast at it.... But you also have to learn whats going to happen if you start sticking your fingers into someone elses buisness... Your probley gonna get them Closed in the car door RA attacked us so it is they who are sticking their sticky fingers into someone elses war. They didnt come in to defend their logistics, they were cynoed in by a galente war target and started attacking us. Its only right that we returned the favor and destroyed the capital ships allied with our foe. Same goes for any allience who decide to attack any side in FW, expect retaliations Think you need to start back at my first post and read down m8... Stay on Topic um...I am on topic What I said is basicly the same as you. Get involved in someone elses affairs and expect them to react. It goes both ways, if we attacked bob space then bob would retaliate, RA attacked the CM so we are retaliating. The only difference is that RA have alot of capital ships and experience while we have ungodly amounts of mission runners with the fresh taste of blood and no sence of fear Seriously enter the FW areas at your own risk, these nubs are ruthless
Tappits Priory Of The Lemon R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.06.14 11:16:00 - [226] Lol the FW gangs killing stuff and having fun. To the people saying they should not be able to do it give 1 good resign why? TheyÆre doing it in lowsec its not like there ganking people in highsec or anything. If the big alliances want to keep there lowsec towers in space that FW is happening they should defend them just like FW peeps have to defend their crap. I say good on you FW peeps. RA needs nerfing anyway. Alliance tears are just as nice as carebare ones
Tappits Priory Of The Lemon R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.06.14 11:25:00 - [227] Originally by: El'Niaga Okay if the militias are going to engage in alliance warfare the alliances need the power to declare war on them... why the FW corps are not Wardecking the alliances so why do the alliances need to wardec?
Space Shifter Virulence. Insurgency	Posted - 2008.06.14 11:26:00 - [228] Someone please bring a 40 man Nano/HAC/HIC Gang with a Nice 60+ Sniper fleet attached.... Dont Forget the fraps...
Sakura Nihil Stimulus	Posted - 2008.06.14 11:27:00 - [229] Hi five for you Caldari pigdogs! Goal Line Blitz, an American Football browser game.
baltec1 Antares Shipyards	Posted - 2008.06.14 11:31:00 - [230] Originally by: Tappits Edited by: Tappits on 14/06/2008 11:27:30 Edited by: Tappits on 14/06/2008 11:26:34 Originally by: El'Niaga Okay if the militias are going to engage in alliance warfare the alliances need the power to declare war on them... why the FW corps are not Wardecking the alliances so why do the alliances need to wardec? thay are allso not engageing in alliance warfare there takeing the space and killing in the space ccp has gave them for the FW crap its not alliance space its FW space/lowsec people can do what thay want there I think its only a select few from alliences who are complaining. They dont seem to like the idea of having to go against a mass of rabid caracals foaming at the mouth.

hammyhamm GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.06.14 12:25:00 - [231] Edited by: hammyhamm on 14/06/2008 12:25:26 If RA do lose one of their POSes and it is somehow retowered by someone else, who do you think will be getting the 10billion isk p/month profit from them? Caldari faction players are having their naivety used against them as a proxy to wage another alliances' war, except the pubbie faction pilots will be the ones out of pocket when the day is done, with no recompense to show for their efforts. EDIT: Nice work though, I imagine trying to FC the militias would be a nightmare :)
OMGimaDONKEY SiK Elite	Posted - 2008.06.14 13:02:00 - [232] spin it as you will but maybe the caldari militia will drop a pos there to pay for ship loss. it funny to see all the fanboiz coming to ra's defense I'm sure they can wipe their own arse no need for you to que for it
Viqtoria Groping Hand Social Club	Posted - 2008.06.14 13:11:00 - [233] Originally by: hammyhamm Edited by: hammyhamm on 14/06/2008 12:25:26 If RA do lose one of their POSes and it is somehow retowered by someone else, who do you think will be getting the 10billion isk p/month profit from them? Caldari faction players are having their naivety used against them as a proxy to wage another alliances' war, except the pubbie faction pilots will be the ones out of pocket when the day is done, with no recompense to show for their efforts. EDIT: Nice work though, I imagine trying to FC the militias would be a nightmare :) you know about being used as meatshields amirite. don't bother replying, goons bitterness towards the heaving, newb-padded caldari militia faction is pure bitterness, cos you know how horribly effective cheap ass cheaps in megablobs can be when the node is lagging so much everything is ****** and the missiles, the missiles they keep hitting :D When a pilots insured t1 fit caracal explodes they just get another one, in some cases for free. It actually takes longer to lose the insert t1 ship than earn to isk to buy it in the first place. We're not talking about t2 fit Fleet snipers here. "no recompense to show for their efforts", a long time ago you goons used to measure the rewards by having fun. Everything in the game doesn't actually exist bar the fun you get from it. Keep poasting though, you're the best poaster.
Korrell Imperial Academy	Posted - 2008.06.14 13:14:00 - [234] Originally by: hammyhamm Caldari faction players are having their naivety used against them as a proxy to wage another alliances' war, except the pubbie faction pilots will be the ones out of pocket when the day is done, with no recompense to show for their efforts. well from what i read in this thread (especially jim bridgers great post) most really don't care about the politics and don't see this as an effort but fun :) i know nothing of big alliances and the politics involved, and maybe i'm totally wrong, but couldn't the militias be an opportunity to further your goals and distract/disrupt your enemies? i doubt that one would achieve that by forum talk (and laughing at them) though, maybe many discounted or free t1 ships for your favorite militia would get them interested?
Daelin Blackleaf Naqam	Posted - 2008.06.14 13:38:00 - [235] Originally by: El'Niaga Okay if the militias are going to engage in alliance warfare the alliances need the power to declare war on them... Had militia forces gone on a roadtrip out to RA held space then you just might be right but since RA came to the Black Rise I somehow doubt they need or want the sanction of a CONCORD war declaration. If the alliances did have the power to war-dec militias you could pretty much close up FW after a week because the entire thing will have become an alliance playground for bored combat pilots. In contrast I'm sure you'll find the 0.0 alliances are quite safe from the militias. Sig removed, inappropriate content. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
Sabreana	Posted - 2008.06.14 13:46:00 - [236] This is a real easy problem for ccp to solve. Allow any player based alliance to wardec a faction in this case the caldari state, and the RA Boys and Girls loose the free ride of safety in Caldari Hi-Sec space just as faction wars was designed. Thou since its all low sec anyways its still open warfare regardless of faction so its open season on what ever fies. RA will just have to move assets to deal with it
ragewind Vale Heavy Industries Molotov Coalition	Posted - 2008.06.14 14:08:00 - [237] lol this is funny RA think the FW gangs are just bears with cruisers in mission fits so hot drop and loses 3 carriers and then basically the FW gang goon swarms them and uses crusers to ** one of there most valuable moons up guess the FW lot are sending out a measage of dont ** with us we have no pos or productions to keep runing, so mess with there fun at your pos's risk
Esmenet	Posted - 2008.06.14 14:17:00 - [238] Originally by: Daelin Blackleaf Had militia forces gone on a roadtrip out to RA held space then you just might be right but since RA came to the Black Rise I somehow doubt they need or want the sanction of a CONCORD war declaration. Well if you manage to look past RA and whatever they do the militia have the possibility to attack any alliance core isk generating areas while keeping their own isk generating areas 100% safe thanks to game mechanics. The mechanics are fine considering militia vs militia fights but the second the militia starts attacking alliance space that balance is shifted. I doubt it will be any kind of real problem but the potential is there.
Manella Seldon Happy Joymaker Corp	Posted - 2008.06.14 14:21:00 - [239] Edited by: Manella Seldon on 14/06/2008 14:23:43 Excellent work Caldari's! Don't bother listening or responding to the Goons, its all verbal Diarrhea and not worth the effort. Risk is related to reward if RA wants to mine lo sec moons in contested space, well then some pubbies in Caracals, and Ravens just might put that tower into reinforced. Deal with it.
Stevens DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.06.14 14:35:00 - [240] Will the tower lose sec standing to shoot at them ;-) Thats the only issue I see is that to defend their tower the RA pilots will have to drop all the way to -10. That may not be an issue for some but being penalized for defending alliance assets from people seems kind of ********.



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