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Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.22 13:31:00 - [1] After the 5th thread about Ambulation today, I decided to throw together a quick thread that covers most the questions folks seem to be asking. Before folks jump all over me from either side - no, I don't personally care about Ambulation, but neither do I think it's a bad idea. That said: Stuff. Dev post: Ambulation will be at fanfest Long Article on TenTonHammer Slashdot Article Older Video showing Characters and Environments Long video focusing on characters & customizations Dev post: Housing Dev post: Ambulation not manditory. Also - Ambulation will not add lag. Dev post: There will be bars; will not be dancing Dev post: Environments will be customized by race Dev post: Early ambulation build runs on DirectX 9, Shader model 3.0 on Windows XP. That's all I had time to search out, for the moment. If anyone else has any other documented, referanced information, please feel free to post it and I'll edit it in to the beginning. Hopefully this way we can just link one thread at people who keep asking the same questions, rather than 10 threads. ----------------
knifee Caldari Euphoria Heavy Industries	Posted - 2008.07.22 13:34:00 - [2] Good thread, this is well done. eve-dev - making a good thing better
Tarminic 24th Imperial Crusade	Posted - 2008.07.22 13:43:00 - [3] This thread has my full support. Well done! ---------------- Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.83 (Updated 7/3)
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong	Posted - 2008.07.22 13:46:00 - [4] Great thread! thanks for putting it all together.
sableye principle of motion Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.07.22 13:48:00 - [5] nice work but I was hoping this would be some new update :) Join The Fight With Promo Today View The North Star!
Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.22 13:58:00 - [6] Originally by: sableye nice work but I was hoping this would be some new update :) Judging from the number of threads asking questions about it, most of this is a new update for most folks :p As an aside, does anyone know a way to work eve-search to filter by a search word AND dev posts only? ----------------
knifee Caldari Euphoria Heavy Industries	Posted - 2008.07.22 14:05:00 - [7] Originally by: Lui Kai Originally by: sableye nice work but I was hoping this would be some new update :) Judging from the number of threads asking questions about it, most of this is a new update for most folks :p As an aside, does anyone know a way to work eve-search to filter by a search word AND dev posts only? Ring Ring, paging Mr Chribba to the thread, page for Mr. Chribba. eve-dev - making a good thing better
Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.22 14:07:00 - [8] Originally by: knifee Ring Ring, paging Mr Chribba to the thread, page for Mr. Chribba. No no. I learned earlier - you've got to leave a treat out for him if you want him to come. ----------------

Chribba Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire	Posted - 2008.07.22 16:26:00 - [9] No you can't atm. You used to be able to do that, but with the new engine that feature wasn't added when it was changed for speed. I might add that when I have time but it would require me to rewrite my modules again as well as redesign the database to include dev/non-dev flags. Secure 3rd party service ■ Do you Veldspar?

Arvald Caldari Ninjas N Pirates	Posted - 2008.07.22 16:29:00 - [10] golfclap Originally by: Reem Fairchild The fact that people who post stupid things get instant and honest feedback letting them know how stupid they are, is one of the best qualities of the Eve forums.

Arvald Caldari Ninjas N Pirates	Posted - 2008.07.22 16:31:00 - [11] Originally by: Chribba No you can't atm. You used to be able to do that, but with the new engine that feature wasn't added when it was changed for speed. I might add that when I have time but it would require me to rewrite my modules again as well as redesign the database to include dev/non-dev flags. ok looks like were going to have to do it the hard way Dear Mr Chribba i have your mother held hostage in my basement and if you do not transfer the sum of 100000 units of veldspar along with adding the ability to filter by dev posts and thread title you WILL never see her again -Arvald Originally by: Reem Fairchild The fact that people who post stupid things get instant and honest feedback letting them know how stupid they are, is one of the best qualities of the Eve forums.
Tarminic 24th Imperial Crusade	Posted - 2008.07.22 16:34:00 - [12] Originally by: Arvald Originally by: Chribba No you can't atm. You used to be able to do that, but with the new engine that feature wasn't added when it was changed for speed. I might add that when I have time but it would require me to rewrite my modules again as well as redesign the database to include dev/non-dev flags. ok looks like were going to have to do it the hard way Dear Mr Chribba i have your mother held hostage in my basement and if you do not transfer the sum of 100000 units of veldspar along with adding the ability to filter by dev posts and thread title you WILL never see her again -Arvald Be careful, by "transfer" you could mean "fire directly at me from the veldnought in seige mode." Mmm, if only I could run SQL queries against your database, Chribba. So much convenience, and I could write an alt detector. Of course, you'd be crazy to let me do that... ---------------- Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.83 (Updated 7/3)
Ishkur Policy Research Group	Posted - 2008.07.22 16:47:00 - [13] Can we just say "walking"? I know, ambulation is all Latin root (from 'ambulare' to walk - I am very smrt) and thus sounds more high-falutin. But it bothers me, I don't know why. Anyone else think it should just be called "walking"?
Tarminic 24th Imperial Crusade	Posted - 2008.07.22 16:48:00 - [14] We could also call Empyrean Age "fighting," but that wouldn't sound nearly as cool. ---------------- Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.83 (Updated 7/3)

Chribba Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire	Posted - 2008.07.22 16:49:00 - [15] Arvald, you liar, I just checked my alt... the motherSHIP is still there Secure 3rd party service ■ Do you Veldspar?

Arvald Caldari Ninjas N Pirates	Posted - 2008.07.22 16:50:00 - [16] Originally by: Chribba Arvald, you liar, I just checked my alt... the motherSHIP is still there ......blast foiled again /stalks off twirling his mustache Originally by: Reem Fairchild The fact that people who post stupid things get instant and honest feedback letting them know how stupid they are, is one of the best qualities of the Eve forums.
Rook Highwind Unnatural Growth	Posted - 2008.07.22 17:52:00 - [17] Finally, an effort saver to quell the misconceptions [hopefully]. I move that glue be applied to this thread. ______________________________________
Benilopax Gallente Pulsar Combat Supplies Alternative Realities	Posted - 2008.07.22 17:54:00 - [18] Everyone read this thread!
Eran Laude Gallente Strix Armaments and Defence	Posted - 2008.07.22 18:03:00 - [19] Stickeh!
Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.22 20:35:00 - [20] Originally by: Chribba No you can't atm. You used to be able to do that, but with the new engine that feature wasn't added when it was changed for speed. I might add that when I have time but it would require me to rewrite my modules again as well as redesign the database to include dev/non-dev flags. Ah well, I'll just keep diggin for more "walking" dev posts the hard way :p Thanks heaps, Chribba - you rock socks. ----------------

Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.22 21:38:00 - [21] Update: Added many new links. I also have gained a new level of respect for the patience of Devs when they actually answer questions on the forums. Some of those threads are scary! ----------------
Neth'Rae Gallente Decorum Inc Tygris Alliance	Posted - 2008.07.22 23:29:00 - [22] Edited by: Neth''Rae on 22/07/2008 23:29:40 Originally by: Tarminic We could also call Empyrean Age "fighting," but that wouldn't sound nearly as cool. Hahaha Previous expansions: - New Graphics - Fighting.. Future expansions: - Walking - Landing on planets - Fighting while walking (and maybe running) Request signatures at EVE-GFX
Sinistra Arc	Posted - 2008.07.23 01:58:00 - [23] Nice consolidation. Thanks for the effort. Glad I came back to EVE
Draconyx	Posted - 2008.07.23 02:32:00 - [24] 3 THings 1. - Great Thread. 2.- Needs Sticky Please 3. - Yes CCP there are ALOT of people who are really looking forward to this. PLease leave this post stickied till something better comes along. (Good luck) In other words give us a bone to gnaw on for awhile
Jinx Barker GFB Scientific	Posted - 2008.07.23 03:57:00 - [25] Edited by: Jinx Barker on 23/07/2008 04:00:25 I fully support this thread! I must add: I did not see anything on CORPSE PICKLING JARS - will they be in?!
Todd Jaeger Body Count Inc. The Requiem	Posted - 2008.07.23 04:00:00 - [26] And then after you sticky it, post a real trailer
Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.23 05:40:00 - [27] Originally by: Jinx Barker I must add: I did not see anything on CORPSE PICKLING JARS - will they be in?! Well, there's corpse polishing - so maybe there's hope for corpse pickling. :D ---------------- Ambulation Answers
Case Kovaks Minmatar Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2008.07.23 11:44:00 - [28] Best ambulation post I've seen so far, OP has IQ!
Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.23 12:05:00 - [29] Updated: Made it a bit easier on the eyes, added several new links. If anyone else can think of/find any missing official information, please let me know. As an aside, after having read every single post Eris has saved on Eve-Search, I feel like I've come to understand her slightly more. Thus, I leave out a bit of Eris Bait¬ in the hopes of getting an answer to the main question I've seen left unanswered so far: Will trade commodities have a use in Ambulation? IE: Exotic Dancers, Cigarettes, et cetera. Eris Bait¬ follows: ---- --- Now we play the waiting game... ---------------- Ambulation Answers
Ruze Amarr No Applicable Corporation	Posted - 2008.07.24 01:41:00 - [30] Thank you so much, Lui Kai. Great post. Already on my bookmarks. I hope you didn't go through all this trouble just because I asked about Ambulation in chat ;?j Just so everyone knows, I will be opening up a bar when this comes out. Probably in Amarr, or Akhragan. Preferably Amarr. It'll cater to all audiences, especially those who have to listen to me in racial chat all the time. Course, in my bar, if you dis the emperess or emperor, your butt is out. I'm so looking forward to this. Going to post a short list of all the design functions I've read about. Yes, I went through every single post, and their replies. God, I'm looking forward to this. Genesis Project

Ruze Amarr No Applicable Corporation	Posted - 2008.07.24 03:11:00 - [31] Ambulation Synopsis: The parts I like ;?j ((All questions listed are rhetorical, as I don't expect an answer this early in the game)) Player Housing: Also called 'Captains Quarters', these are mentioned several times in the various dev responses and videos. In the earlier blogs, they are referred to being related to the size of ship the player owns, with bigger ships making nicer quarters. However, the latest reports, these quarters are similar to modules, and thus can be fit on a ship and transfered between. They apparently hold all your clothes and personal items (like what?), and if you have then on your active ship and the ship gets blown up, they are lost with the vessel. Sounds cool as hell. Are they decorate-able? What kind of personal gear can we keep and display here? It's said we can have multiple of these quarters; will there be restrictions on which quarters can fit in which ships? Corporate Venues: So far, I've seen mention of two rooms, a public room and a private room. Players will apparently be able to adjust who can enter a room (i.e. a corp office may be set to allow alliance members to enter, not just the corp members). And, the offices are supposedly restricted to regular corp office setup we have now; for example, if your corp has an office in a station, they will automatically have one of these lounge areas. With the initial release of the expansion, every corp office is supposedly 'basic', but later we may be able to buy upgrades to our offices. I wonder how much decoration can be done? Also, the meeting room apparently will have a tactical map, but are there other functions a corporate office could hold? Can certain 'upgrade' offices have individual spaces for the CEO of the company? Hell, what else would a corporate office NEED to be useful to a corporation? Player Venues: They've mentioned repeatedly the ability to run your own business. I've seen talk of bars, to clothing stores, to plastic surgeons. The latest entry said that these business will require upkeep and rent, and when they are no longer being paid for, they will no longer exist (no empty rooms all over the place). Will there be a limit per station? What else could make these venues interesting? Besides the preteen response of 'strip clubs', these are apparently social centers. But how can they be used for other things, such as turning a profit? Can my bar have a dance hall? And what about a special 'VIP' lounge? And will I be able to hire an agent, possibly even a 'pirate' agent, to work in my back room? Mini Games: There is specific mention in several posts of gambling and gaming tables, both in one-on-one events AND in group things. I'd also like to see fighting rinks (bare knuckle, of course). Probably start off with NPC fights, and maybe in later updates go into player-vs-player knockout fights. ****ed at your CEO? Take it to the rink. Last man standing wins. Hey, no hassle about the cloning argument now, is there? Then there are slaver hound matches (are we advocating dog fights? Cause if not, how can we advocate slavery?), watching EvE TV (In game? GASP), maybe even watching pod races or betting on 0.0 events. Ahh, man. Gaming 'parlors' or halls would be an awesome business. Transportation: In earlier posts it mentions mobile walkways and escalators, but in later vids and posts the devs say that each room will only be a certain size, and that 'elevators' will be positioned at regular intervals to allow quick transportation to your ship. Both sound cool to me. But I do wonder how access to player corps and venues will be handled. How quickly will it be to move between important locations. Also, serious question: Will there be an Emperor's throne? Will there be CCP sponsored RP events with preachers and presidential walkthroughs? So much potential. ((Tomorrow, or maybe the day after, I'm going to make another post and go deeper into the venue ideas)) Genesis Project
soldieroffortune 258	Posted - 2008.07.24 03:56:00 - [32] already been said once, and i will say again CCP, STICKY THIS THREAD, VERY WELL DONE LUI KAI
Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.24 05:35:00 - [33] Originally by: Ruze I'd also like to see fighting rinks While they've said it's possible in the future, I'd say it's a distant future based on this post: Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia A lot of the suggested scenarioªs rely heavily on character to character interaction, bashing someoneªs head in with a pool stick (I donªt play pool so its a stick) comes down to 2 highly realistic and graphics heavy characters interacting with eachother that also needs to be realistic and look good. Programming that and doing the art(I mean just finding the motioncapture actors who wants to be bashed with sticks will be a challenge. We want it realistic, we want to see blood if we go for all out violence. Well, I would.) for it could easily take 6 months. And then weªd also have a way of explaining people not dying from it and design a combat system for in station. Add another year because we want to do more moves and not always repeat the same one. We also want to keep it realistic and not early streetfighter like. For the first realise this would be simply too much, Ambulation is an addition to EVE and not a totally new game with itªs own combat system. We wonªt exclude it from the future but we are already building up a completly new environment, with itªs own pathfinding, own controls, and new gamelogic, and we are laying down the foundations for more. So it sounds like they do want to add some type of combat mechanic, but that it's at least 3 expansions down the road. ---------------- Ambulation Answers
Jinx Barker GFB Scientific	Posted - 2008.07.24 05:41:00 - [34] 1) Sticky this thread! 2) Eris, Eris..... Eeeeeerrrriiiiissssss!!!!! Eris!!!!!!!!!! - what about my corpse pickling jar? Is it coming, will it come? We need a PUBLIC way/or PRIVATE whatever, we need a WAY to display corpses.
Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.24 08:02:00 - [35] Originally by: Jinx Barker Edited by: Jinx Barker on 24/07/2008 06:24:28 1) Sticky this thread! 2) Eris, Eris..... Eeeeeerrrriiiiissssss!!!!! Eris!!!!!!!!!! - what about my corpse pickling jar? Is it coming, will it come? We need a PUBLIC way/or PRIVATE whatever, we need a WAY to display corpses. EDIT: Where is the "Dev Bait?" Turn on images, it's in the post that mentions hoping for Eris to swing by this thread. Hint: I made your post more Eris-friendly, too. ---------------- Ambulation Answers
Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.24 11:39:00 - [36] More links added. As always, if anyone finds anything I've missed so far - post away. ---------------- Ambulation Answers
Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.24 15:29:00 - [37] Hey, yay - we got glue. Cheers, whichever mod did that :) I've finished combing through the archives, raiding google, and generally scouring for info, and I think I can reasonably say that I've got everything of real relevance posted into the first thread. That said, feel free to prove me wrong :) ---------------- Ambulation Answers
Mr Show Caldari Enemies of Mercy	Posted - 2008.07.24 15:33:00 - [38] Hey hey, great post. I'm sure this info is in there somewhere but didn't see a specific link for it: When? Any official date, official estimate? I remember seeing somewhere something about late 2008?
AltBier Minmatar Freelance Unincorporated	Posted - 2008.07.24 15:35:00 - [39] Lui Kai, great thread, thanks for the hard work! Originally by: Ruze Just so everyone knows, I will be opening up a bar when this comes out. Probably in Amarr, or Akhragan. Preferably Amarr. It'll cater to all audiences, especially those who have to listen to me in racial chat all the time. Course, in my bar, if you dis the emperess or emperor, your butt is out. We SO need bar fights!
Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.24 15:56:00 - [40] Originally by: Mr Show Hey hey, great post. I'm sure this info is in there somewhere but didn't see a specific link for it: When? Any official date, official estimate? I remember seeing somewhere something about late 2008? There's a few different articles that say 2008. Since December is the last expansion that's going to happen for 2008, it'll be then if it does happen. However, only the early interviews give that date - the later ones don't mention a date at all, so it's possible it got pushed back. That said, they've promised a playable demo at fanfest, so there's still hope. ---------------- Ambulation Answers

Mr Show Caldari Enemies of Mercy	Posted - 2008.07.24 16:00:00 - [41] Originally by: Lui Kai Originally by: Mr Show Hey hey, great post. I'm sure this info is in there somewhere but didn't see a specific link for it: When? Any official date, official estimate? I remember seeing somewhere something about late 2008? There's a few different articles that say 2008. Since December is the last expansion that's going to happen for 2008, it'll be then if it does happen. However, only the early interviews give that date - the later ones don't mention a date at all, so it's possible it got pushed back. That said, they've promised a playable demo at fanfest, so there's still hope. Ok thanks, wasn't sure. After being burned very recent by a game released to early, I have NO problems with it being pushed back as far as Devs deem necessary.

CCP Eris Discordia	Posted - 2008.07.24 16:08:00 - [42] blub blub blub (thats the sound fish make according to us dutch people) Nice thread and great initiative Pink Dread has been hijacked


CCP Eris Discordia	Posted - 2008.07.24 16:12:00 - [43] Originally by: Lui Kai Thus, I leave out a bit of Eris Bait¬ in the hopes of getting an answer to the main question I've seen left unanswered so far: Will trade commodities have a use in Ambulation? IE: Exotic Dancers, Cigarettes, et cetera. I didn¦t have images activated so I missed the bait, trade commodities will be in Ambulation but maybe not in the way you expect, they might change from the type trade commodities to something else. We will have Exotic Dancers which is what you really want to know right? Pink Dread has been hijacked

Tarminic 24th Imperial Crusade	Posted - 2008.07.24 16:17:00 - [44] Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia We will have Exotic Dancers which is what you really want to know right? Ambulation has just become 500% more popular. ---------------- Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.83 (Updated 7/3)
Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.24 16:28:00 - [45] Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia We will have Exotic Dancers which is what you really want to know right? You are now my hero ---------------- Ambulation Answers
Crae Matreki Sten Industries	Posted - 2008.07.24 16:28:00 - [46] This thread is bloomin brilliant! yay for stickiness!
Cors The Scope	Posted - 2008.07.24 16:29:00 - [47] I just got a mental picture, of a Bar in Jita 4-4. People packed like sardines. And every one of them doing their best Duke Nukem Voice's "Shake it baby."
Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.24 16:35:00 - [48] Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia I didn¦t have images activated so I missed the bait, trade commodities will be in Ambulation but maybe not in the way you expect, they might change from the type trade commodities to something else. We will have Exotic Dancers which is what you really want to know right? Okay, now for the next most frequently asked question: When will it be released? Fresh Eris Bait¬ follows: ----- ----- ---------------- Ambulation Answers

CCP Eris Discordia	Posted - 2008.07.24 17:08:00 - [49] My answer Pink Dread has been hijacked

Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.24 17:15:00 - [50] Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia My answer lol. Fair enough, gotta save something for fan fest. Next most frequently asked question: Will attributes affect anything in ambulation? IE: Will a high cha change a character's appearance? Or will there be ambulation-related skills that benefit from said cha? ---------------- Ambulation Answers

Chomin H'ak The Trivenerate	Posted - 2008.07.24 18:25:00 - [51] Seriously, Lui Kai, I have GOT to give you props... If you were playing D&D, I'd call you an Epic conjurer. I don't know what material components you used, but you summon legendary beings like Elminster on goofballs! Just epic... Oh yeah, and very nicely done thread. Deserved the sticky, thanks. Originally by: Frenden Dax My heart hopes that people aren't that stupid, but my experiences thus far suggest otherwise.
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2008.07.24 18:29:00 - [52] Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia My answer not soonÖ?
Zinras Caldari Order of draugr	Posted - 2008.07.24 19:20:00 - [53] Edited by: Zinras on 24/07/2008 19:21:18 Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia We will have Exotic Dancers which is what you really want to know right? Excellent. I knew there was a reason for me to save those exotic dancers Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton not soonÖ? It's always SoonÖ Originally by: CCP Greyscale moderated - mother abuse - Mitnal Originally by: Jenny Spitfire That si a fact comming out from my bran.
ZephyrLexx Caldari Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2008.07.24 19:50:00 - [54] so ambulation is still a long way off? it says in this email I just recieved that a hands on ambulation walking around stations will be available at fanfest .. which is in 100-odd days from now? so I guess that means we won't see it for at least 100+ days.. man :/ what is taking so long?
Pottsey Enheduanni Foundation	Posted - 2008.07.24 20:41:00 - [55] Edited by: Pottsey on 24/07/2008 20:41:37 ôThere will be exotic dancersö ôThere will be bars; will not be dancingö So what are the exotic dancers going to do if they are not dancing? ____ Telltale sign of their presence is non-linear teleportation (www.eve-online.com/races/theodicy/Theodicy_All.pdf)
Zinras Caldari Order of draugr	Posted - 2008.07.24 21:14:00 - [56] Edited by: Zinras on 24/07/2008 21:13:51 Originally by: Pottsey Edited by: Pottsey on 24/07/2008 20:41:37 ôThere will be exotic dancersö ôThere will be bars; will not be dancingö So what are the exotic dancers going to do if they are not dancing? Exotic barmaids? Originally by: CCP Greyscale moderated - mother abuse - Mitnal Originally by: Jenny Spitfire That si a fact comming out from my bran.
Louis deGuerre Gallente Federation Zone Operations Command	Posted - 2008.07.24 22:20:00 - [57] I applaud Lui Kai for putting it all together ...wait...exotic dancers ! -------------------------------------------------- If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles - Sun Tzu
Ruze Amarr No Applicable Corporation	Posted - 2008.07.24 22:46:00 - [58] Maybe what they mean is that the player's character won't be able to get up and dance, but you'll still find some NPC's shaking their stuff, if that's the kind of joint your at. I wonder if you'll be able to hire static NPC's like dancers and bartenders (because a podpilot can't sit behind the bar 24/7, you know))? And will stations have restrictions on what type of businesses can be put up there? I'm imagining some Gallente punk setting up a strip club right in the middle of the Amarr systems Emperor Family Academy. I mean, would the station have rules? I'm sure Matari don't want some slave-oriented business in their stations or that kind of thing. So far I've seen mention of selling alcohol, tobacco, clothing, operating video games and card games, even being able to make a shop where you change the features of a character for a fee. I'd love to see staged fights that players could bet on. I'd like to see the mind game from the chronicles. Possibly would like some kind of betting arena for pod races (actual pods, not some star wars junk). You could even have slaver hound fights. I mean, c'mon, you'll let an Amarrian have slaves, why not let us be just that much more evil in the eyes of everyone and fight dogs, too, eh? Genesis Project
Victor Valka Caldari Kissaki Corporation	Posted - 2008.07.24 23:02:00 - [59] Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia We will have Exotic Dancers which is what you really want to know right? A million light-years from where humanity begun, and we'll walk into a bar filled with men drooling over half-naked women shaking their asses on the stage. I can't decide if that's funny or sad. (10 brownie points if you catch the reference.) Originally by: Roxanna Kell You are insane.
Faraelle Brightman Gallente Placid Reborn	Posted - 2008.07.24 23:13:00 - [60] Trying to jump onto the question train: Will there be bloodline-specific shiny things in addition to the race-specific ones? hopes Eris is a cat person

ColwirthMB Minmatar Celestial Horizon Corp. Celestial Industrial Alliance	Posted - 2008.07.24 23:33:00 - [61] Originally by: Victor Valka Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia We will have Exotic Dancers which is what you really want to know right? A million light-years from where humanity begun, and we'll walk into a bar filled with men drooling over half-naked women shaking their asses on the stage. I can't decide if that's funny or sad. (10 brownie points if you catch the reference.) Mass effect :)
Xevan Templar 7th Batavian Squadron	Posted - 2008.07.25 01:21:00 - [62] Edited by: Xevan Templar on 25/07/2008 01:21:53 I just whatched this Characters & customizations and I have to say it's realy amazing for what is to come. Especially when considering, game style wise, character interaction and space station environments are 'secondary' to piloting ships. Secondary quoted because as the way it goes it beats any MMO game that I have played sofar (WOW, LOTRO, AOC), and those are games that have 3D character interaction as a main play-system. If this goes on the way it goes, hanging out in stations is gonna be a 'mini'-game initself. I can see myself sitting down in some fancy cafT while brouwsing the market. Or what to think of mayor meetings before some space conflict. Thumbs up for the EVE def team
Jinx Barker GFB Scientific	Posted - 2008.07.25 01:47:00 - [63] I did not get an answer about corpse pickling jar, Eris does not love me anymore....
Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.25 04:08:00 - [64] Originally by: Faraelle Brightman Trying to jump onto the question train: Will there be bloodline-specific shiny things in addition to the race-specific ones? This would lead me towards believing yes, even though it doesn't say so specifically. ---------------- Ambulation Answers
Eran Laude Gallente Strix Armaments and Defence	Posted - 2008.07.25 05:38:00 - [65] Originally by: ColwirthMB Originally by: Victor Valka Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia We will have Exotic Dancers which is what you really want to know right? A million light-years from where humanity begun, and we'll walk into a bar filled with men drooling over half-naked women shaking their asses on the stage. I can't decide if that's funny or sad. (10 brownie points if you catch the reference.) Mass effect :) Specifically, Ashley as you walk into Chora's Den with her and Kaiden
Neth'Rae Gallente Decorum Inc Tygris Alliance	Posted - 2008.07.25 08:39:00 - [66] Originally by: Lui Kai Edited by: Lui Kai on 24/07/2008 17:17:12 Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia My answer Next most frequently asked question: Will attributes affect anything in ambulation? IE: Will a high cha change a character's appearance? Or will there be ambulation-related skills that benefit from said cha? I'm wondering that aswell.. Request signatures at EVE-GFX
Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.25 08:43:00 - [67] Originally by: Neth'Rae I'm wondering that aswell.. Yeah, I'm trying to post up the questions that I saw most asked (but not answered), in the order of frequency. But, honestly, just by swinging by at all Eris has already rocked my socks. The amount of work and detail going into Ambulation is shocking, and I can't imagine how hectic her schedule must be. She's defiantly my new favorite dev. ---------------- Ambulation Answers

CCP Atropos C C P	Posted - 2008.07.25 08:48:00 - [68] Eris has departed for Finland for a few days, attending Finncon, but she will be watching the thread, even if she doesn't have time to reply

Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.25 09:00:00 - [69] Originally by: CCP Atropos Eris has departed for Finland for a few days, attending Finncon, but she will be watching the thread, even if she doesn't have time to reply Thanks for the heads up - that is one busy lady :p Of course, Atropos - you're welcome to answer the question, too :P ---------------- Ambulation Answers
Reviera	Posted - 2008.07.25 12:35:00 - [70] Just watched the eve-fanfest video. http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid1274008831?bclid=1302124741&bctid=1302124567 Nice! Tho a question. What is stopping someone (that have allot of ISK) to buy up slots fast on shops etc. Block these slots, by paying rent but not rly using them. This to lower concurrence and controle the market, just becouse they can invest isk when it is released. Sure, ppl with power should be able to, but somewhere it is needed to be controlled so even new players have a chance.

Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.25 13:10:00 - [71] Originally by: Reviera Just watched the eve-fanfest video. http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid1274008831?bclid=1302124741&bctid=1302124567 Nice! Tho a question. What is stopping someone (that have allot of ISK) to buy up slots fast on shops etc. Block these slots, by paying rent but not rly using them. This to lower concurrence and controle the market, just becouse they can invest isk when it is released. Sure, ppl with power should be able to, but somewhere it is needed to be controlled so even new players have a chance. More than likely, they'll use the same mechanic corp offices use - if all slots in a station are taken, the rent increases on a monthly basis. If that person is willing to keep paying an ever-increasing rent, they've bought that privilege of locking down that station. And, just like with offices, it's easy enough to just move to another station - or, at worse, a jump or two away, and rent there. It'll probably be an issue for the first month or so, when every roleplayer decides to open their own "bar" - but after a month of everyone sitting alone in said personal bar it should stabilize, I imagine. ---------------- Ambulation Answers
Faraelle Brightman Gallente Placid Reborn	Posted - 2008.07.25 14:44:00 - [72] Originally by: Jinx Barker I did not get an answer about corpse pickling jar, Eris does not love me anymore.... I think it's actualy been very well answered based on the links in the OP. Or at least, if not pickling jar, you'll have cyrogenic display containers.
Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.25 14:46:00 - [73] Originally by: Faraelle Brightman I think it's actualy been very well answered based on the links in the OP. Or at least, if not pickling jar, you'll have cyrogenic display containers. And some type of polishing rag, apparently ---------------- Ambulation Answers
Dirty Python	Posted - 2008.07.26 03:57:00 - [74] really enjoyed the Ben Mathis presentation video. Looking forward to seeing dilapidated Sansha stations and scary Nightmare captain's quarters :)
Jinx Barker GFB Scientific	Posted - 2008.07.26 04:11:00 - [75] Originally by: Faraelle Brightman Originally by: Jinx Barker I did not get an answer about corpse pickling jar, Eris does not love me anymore.... I think it's actualy been very well answered based on the links in the OP. Or at least, if not pickling jar, you'll have cyrogenic display containers. Wait, what where? Point Point Point....
soldieroffortune 258	Posted - 2008.07.26 04:18:00 - [76] Originally by: Ruze Maybe what they mean is that the player's character won't be able to get up and dance, but you'll still find some NPC's shaking their stuff, if that's the kind of joint your at. I wonder if you'll be able to hire static NPC's like dancers and bartenders (because a podpilot can't sit behind the bar 24/7, you know))? And will stations have restrictions on what type of businesses can be put up there? I'm imagining some Gallente punk setting up a strip club right in the middle of the Amarr systems Emperor Family Academy. I mean, would the station have rules? I'm sure Matari don't want some slave-oriented business in their stations or that kind of thing. So far I've seen mention of selling alcohol, tobacco, clothing, operating video games and card games, even being able to make a shop where you change the features of a character for a fee. I'd love to see staged fights that players could bet on. I'd like to see the mind game from the chronicles. Possibly would like some kind of betting arena for pod races (actual pods, not some star wars junk). You could even have slaver hound fights. I mean, c'mon, you'll let an Amarrian have slaves, why not let us be just that much more evil in the eyes of everyone and fight dogs, too, eh? that is exactly what i was thinking, another blow to the Axis of Evil, the Caldari and Amarr empires, when i leave FW, this will by my last **** you to them
Xelios Xarxes	Posted - 2008.07.26 04:47:00 - [77] If there are no male exotic dancers I'm gonna be very disappointed.
Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.26 05:16:00 - [78] Originally by: Jinx Barker Originally by: Faraelle Brightman Originally by: Jinx Barker I did not get an answer about corpse pickling jar, Eris does not love me anymore.... I think it's actualy been very well answered based on the links in the OP. Or at least, if not pickling jar, you'll have cyrogenic display containers. Wait, what where? Point Point Point.... This un ---------------- Ambulation Answers
Jinx Barker GFB Scientific	Posted - 2008.07.26 18:31:00 - [79] Originally by: Lui Kai Originally by: Jinx Barker Wait, what where? Point Point Point.... This un "You can polish the frozen corpses of your enemies...." - it does not say whether we could put them on display. Just polishing the darn thing, well, its OK, in private, but, what if I want to use them as decorations for a pub? So they can be seen by all, floating or frozen in their little anguished and squishy positions inside the jars or kryo-tubes or whatever the hell CCP wants to call em, them are PICKLING JARS! Oh, and I have couple of frozen corpses of my friends, and well, they are just mementoes.
Tenoh	Posted - 2008.07.26 21:24:00 - [80] This is very cool! I wonder if i could watch in window from my quarters on the station how noobs get popped outside by some jerk! I would also love station like outposts on planets... heck even cities,those air flights were cool! So when do they plant to release the date?

ZephyrLexx Caldari Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2008.07.26 22:49:00 - [81] will we be able to walk around on habitable planets and moons?
Ruze Amarr No Applicable Corporation	Posted - 2008.07.26 22:59:00 - [82] Edited by: Ruze on 26/07/2008 23:00:26 Currently they are saying that the stations we walk around in will be in a different set of servers than the stations we dock at, so while you'll be able to move to your ship or move into the station, you can't spy out the window on that gank fleet waiting to kill you. This will also mean that your not using that star systems resources when your out and about. Ambulation won't cause lag with fleets and fly throughs. I'm betting (no confirmation that I've seen), that you won't be in that systems 'local' anymore, either. Also, all they've mentioned (the devs, that is) is walking on stations. Nothing about planetside or colony encounters. Genesis Project
ZephyrLexx Caldari Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2008.07.27 00:25:00 - [83] when you mention colony, it reminded me about those stations with huge biosphere domes which have grass and trees in etc, wonder if we'll be able to walk into those? it will be kind-of like being on a planet.
Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.27 05:29:00 - [84] Originally by: Tenoh This is very cool! I wonder if i could watch in window from my quarters on the station how noobs get popped outside by some jerk! I would also love station like outposts on planets... heck even cities,those air flights were cool! So when do they plant to release the date? No seeing out into "real" space at all, unfortunately. They've said there are technical reasons this will be impossible. As to release dates - early articles said 2008, later articles stopped giving a date. Since there's only one expansion left for 2008 (In Dec), if things didn't get pushed back - it'll be then. Originally by: ZephyrLexx will we be able to walk around on habitable planets and moons? Not yet, but they've specifically said they're just trying to release the simple ambulation (Which is a huge enough project by itself, given the detail and complexity they're including) this expansion, with plans to expand and add new functionality to it later. ---------------- Ambulation Answers
Tenoh	Posted - 2008.07.27 05:47:00 - [85] Edited by: Tenoh on 27/07/2008 05:47:18 sigh well this makes me very sad that i cant look outside station,its one of things you would be expected to do on a station.Suddenly i am not that excited anymore.
Meiyang Lee Gallente Azteca Transportation Unlimited Gunboat Diplomacy	Posted - 2008.07.27 08:38:00 - [86] Originally by: Tenoh Edited by: Tenoh on 27/07/2008 05:47:18 sigh well this makes me very sad that i cant look outside station,its one of things you would be expected to do on a station.Suddenly i am not that excited anymore. I have no doubt there will be windows, it's just that you will not see the situation as it is outside the station back on TQ. It would simply be to complicated or cost intensive to pull off.
Karanth Gallente Federal Defence Union	Posted - 2008.07.27 09:33:00 - [87] Originally by: Victor Valka Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia We will have Exotic Dancers which is what you really want to know right? A million light-years from where humanity begun, and we'll walk into a bar filled with men drooling over half-naked women shaking their asses on the stage. I can't decide if that's funny or sad. (10 brownie points if you catch the reference.) Just men? I find that unlikely.
Meiyang Lee Gallente Azteca Transportation Unlimited Gunboat Diplomacy	Posted - 2008.07.27 10:05:00 - [88] Originally by: Victor Valka Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia We will have Exotic Dancers which is what you really want to know right? A million light-years from where humanity begun, and we'll walk into a bar filled with men drooling over half-naked women shaking their asses on the stage. I can't decide if that's funny or sad. (10 brownie points if you catch the reference.) That would be Mass Effect, Ashley Williams to be precise, entering Chora's Den with Kaidan (not sure if he's required)
Louis deGuerre Gallente Federation Zone Operations Command	Posted - 2008.07.27 10:25:00 - [89] So, when ambulation comes out, will you be allowed to change your avatar for free ? I threw something together thinking I'd change it later (how foolish!) before realizing that would cost a cool $10, which I am too greedy to spend. Ah well, at least I don't walk around with my head in a bucket. -------------------------------------------------- If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles - Sun Tzu
Frozen Fallout Gallente Mecha Enterprises Group	Posted - 2008.07.27 11:06:00 - [90] Very nice! Keep up the good work!

Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.27 11:17:00 - [91] Originally by: Louis deGuerre So, when ambulation comes out, will you be allowed to change your avatar for free ? I threw something together thinking I'd change it later (how foolish!) before realizing that would cost a cool $10, which I am too greedy to spend. Ah well, at least I don't walk around with my head in a bucket. You know, I could swear I saw something that said you could - but after re-reading all the links, I discovered if I didn't imagine it, it's not here. I did some digging and couldn't re-discover the thread, either. So if anyone else has a link to a dev post/blog/article saying one way or the naught, please speak up. On the positive side, digging for that answer I did find a few new links - edited into the origional post :) As a side note: I'm running out of characters on the original post. Would any kindly forum mods mind slipping a blank post or two from me into the beginning of the post so I can keep expanding this, if possible? :) ---------------- Ambulation Answers
Splagada Minmatar Tides of Silence Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2008.07.27 11:59:00 - [92] Edited by: Splagada on 27/07/2008 11:59:14 Q : once ambulation is out, are you anxious too to meet This guy? ------ Tides of Silence
Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.27 12:04:00 - [93] I'd rather meet the original. ---------------- Ambulation Answers
Splagada Minmatar Tides of Silence Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2008.07.27 12:13:00 - [94] They're going to be our Heroes really ------ Tides of Silence
Zinras Caldari Order of draugr	Posted - 2008.07.27 12:16:00 - [95] Originally by: Lui Kai Originally by: Louis deGuerre So, when ambulation comes out, will you be allowed to change your avatar for free ? I threw something together thinking I'd change it later (how foolish!) before realizing that would cost a cool $10, which I am too greedy to spend. Ah well, at least I don't walk around with my head in a bucket. You know, I could swear I saw something that said you could - but after re-reading all the links, I discovered if I didn't imagine it, it's not here. I did some digging and couldn't re-discover the thread, either. So if anyone else has a link to a dev post/blog/article saying one way or the naught, please speak up. On the positive side, digging for that answer I did find a few new links - edited into the origional post :) As a side note: I'm running out of characters on the original post. Would any kindly forum mods mind slipping a blank post or two from me into the beginning of the post so I can keep expanding this, if possible? :) You get to redesign your avatar. I believe they've either stated it at last fanfest or in a thread somewhere. Besides, your avatar was designed using the old engine and now you have a new one (Trinity). So it makes sense. Originally by: CCP Greyscale moderated - mother abuse - Mitnal Originally by: Jenny Spitfire That si a fact comming out from my bran.
Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.27 12:23:00 - [96] Originally by: Zinras [ You get to redesign your avatar. I believe they've either stated it at last fanfest or in a thread somewhere. Besides, your avatar was designed using the old engine and now you have a new one (Trinity). So it makes sense. I know it makes sense, and I'd be highly shocked if it weren't the case - but are you able to find any official posts/blogs/articles that specifically state it? I'm trying to keep as much speculation out of this thread as possible :) ---------------- Ambulation Answers
Zinras Caldari Order of draugr	Posted - 2008.07.27 12:39:00 - [97] Originally by: Lui Kai Originally by: Zinras [ You get to redesign your avatar. I believe they've either stated it at last fanfest or in a thread somewhere. Besides, your avatar was designed using the old engine and now you have a new one (Trinity). So it makes sense. I know it makes sense, and I'd be highly shocked if it weren't the case - but are you able to find any official posts/blogs/articles that specifically state it? I'm trying to keep as much speculation out of this thread as possible :) From Wrangler himself Originally by: CCP Greyscale moderated - mother abuse - Mitnal Originally by: Jenny Spitfire That si a fact comming out from my bran.
Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.27 12:45:00 - [98] Cheers! Missed that one. Edited it in to original. ---------------- Ambulation Answers
Zeba Minmatar Pator Tech School	Posted - 2008.07.27 17:37:00 - [99] Originally by: Pottsey ôThere will be exotic dancersö ôThere will be bars; will not be dancingö So what are the exotic dancers going to do if they are not dancing? No /dance emote = Epic Win No exotic dancers shaking that booty on your table in a bar = Epic Fail Clarification on exactly what it is the exotic dancer will do plz Eris? inappropriate signature. ~WeatherMan
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong	Posted - 2008.07.27 17:59:00 - [100] Originally by: Zeba Originally by: Pottsey ôThere will be exotic dancersö ôThere will be bars; will not be dancingö So what are the exotic dancers going to do if they are not dancing? No /dance emote = Epic Win No exotic dancers shaking that booty on your table in a bar = Epic Fail Clarification on exactly what it is the exotic dancer will do plz Eris? no no there will be dancing, on a dance floor, where your suppose to dance. You'll find me doing the goth step step drag dance for instance from south park :P

HankMurphy Minmatar Pelennor Enterprises	Posted - 2008.07.27 18:09:00 - [101] i still haven't found the answer to: Will my minmatar be able to have the matar blindness? Maleatu has it and he's pretty much my hero. I wanna be like Shakor! ------------------------------ of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most
Todd Jaeger Body Count Inc. The Requiem	Posted - 2008.07.27 18:44:00 - [102] Yes. But everytime you leave the pod, you will see nothing but a black screen.
Zinras Caldari Order of draugr	Posted - 2008.07.27 19:09:00 - [103] Originally by: HankMurphy i still haven't found the answer to: Will my minmatar be able to have the matar blindness? Maleatu has it and he's pretty much my hero. I wanna be like Shakor! That can easily be achieved: Simply turn off your screen whenever you leave the pod Originally by: CCP Greyscale moderated - mother abuse - Mitnal Originally by: Jenny Spitfire That si a fact comming out from my bran.
Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.28 08:43:00 - [104] Originally by: Ruze I wonder if you'll be able to hire static NPC's like dancers and bartenders (because a podpilot can't sit behind the bar 24/7, you know))? Just noticed I missed this question - The dev post about clothing talks about hiring NPCs to give certain responses or items to certain standing/types of people, so yes. ---------------- Ambulation Answers
Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.28 08:48:00 - [105] So, since Eris should be returning from the con today, I'm posting a summation of the questions that were asked while she was away - hopefully by not requiring her to re-read the whole thread, we won't have any questions missed :) Jinx Barker asks if there will be some way of publically displaying corpses in venues/corp offices. IE: A cryogenic tube or pickling jar. Lui Kai asks if a high cha change a character's appearance, or will there be ambulation-related skills that benefit from said cha. Pottsey and Zeba both ask if the exotic dancers will dance. Faraelle Brightman asks if there will be bloodline-specific shiny things in addition to the race-specific ones. Reviera asks if there will be any mechanic in place to keep a single person/corp from monopolizing all the public shops in a station. Xelios Xarxes asks if there will be male exotic dancers. HankMurphy asks if his avatar can be blind. Again, Eris if you're still reading this - thank you so much for the time and effort you've put into this project: Both on the developmental side, and the community side. Any info at all is like gold :) ---------------- Ambulation Answers
cerbus	Posted - 2008.07.28 16:04:00 - [106] Originally by: Lui Kai .... HankMurphy asks if his avatar can be blind. Thats a great question and one i would like to know. The majority of my corp is effected by a disease that makes their eyes completely white and as no cure has been found could u like slip in a little *no pupils* effect for my corp? I'm sure you guys would have time in your busy schedule The Anomandaris Demaleon institute rehabilitates and caters for pilots suffering from a rare disease caused by the fluid found in capsules reacting with self warming lubrication (And certain chemicals used in organic fruit bleaching by the nocturnal bat farmers of the Jita region) during conception which causes, but not limited to, temporal confusion and permanent blindness. Peoples affected by this disease can contact e30089 for rehabilitation and temporal alignment. *Peoples with fat cheeks may also apply* Thx. Cerbus

CCP Eris Discordia	Posted - 2008.07.28 16:07:00 - [107] Originally by: Lui Kai Jinx Barker asks if there will be some way of publically displaying corpses in venues/corp offices. IE: A cryogenic tube or pickling jar. This is something we want, but it's possible we wont get to it because of higher priority stuff. I reallllly want it too though. Lui Kai asks if a high cha change a character's appearance, or will there be ambulation-related skills that benefit from said cha. We haven't made any decisions yet regarding skills, so I can't so much on this Pottsey and Zeba both ask if the exotic dancers will dance. Can you pay for them? Faraelle Brightman asks if there will be bloodline-specific shiny things in addition to the race-specific ones. Not sure for first release Reviera asks if there will be any mechanic in place to keep a single person/corp from monopolizing all the public shops in a station. It would be really expensive, otherwise no. Xelios Xarxes asks if there will be male exotic dancers. I did bring this up, and I shall check on it again. HankMurphy asks if his avatar can be blind. Blind how? Also wouldn't that reset itself with every clone you go through? What do you want to get from blindness, strange path finding or cool glasses? Again, Eris if you're still reading this - thank you so much for the time and effort you've put into this project: Both on the developmental side, and the community side. Any info at all is like gold :) I can't answer too many questions because I'm worried it might distract from the awesomeness that is fanfest. However, I like to see the questions coming anyway because it is a good way for us to see what you are particularly interested in, just don't get downhearted if I don't answer every one. Pink Dread has been hijacked

Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.28 16:11:00 - [108] Eris - you rock beyond words. This is officially the single largest chunk of info given since Ambulation was released. I'm done pestering you for answers now - will wait with baited breath till Fanfest, and keep updating this in the meanwhile :) ---------------- Ambulation Answers
cerbus	Posted - 2008.07.28 16:27:00 - [109] Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia Originally by: Lui Kai HankMurphy asks if his avatar can be blind. Blind how? Also wouldn't that reset itself with every clone you go through? What do you want to get from blindness, strange path finding or cool glasses? Omg. You just completely destroyed the story behind my corp.
Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.28 16:30:00 - [110] Edited by: Lui Kai on 28/07/2008 16:30:16 Originally by: cerbus Omg. You just completely destroyed the story behind my corp. Can't you just continuing to roleplay blindness, like you're doing now? There's nothing to "prove" your character can see. If you're absolutly that fussed about it, just use eve voice with your corpmates when you get out of your pod and turn the monitor off - same effect. ---------------- Ambulation Answers

cerbus	Posted - 2008.07.28 16:38:00 - [111] Originally by: Lui Kai Can't you just continuing to roleplay blindness, like you're doing now? There's nothing to "prove" your character can see. If you're absolutly that fussed about it, just use eve voice with your corpmates when you get out of your pod and turn the monitor off - same effect. Thx you just made my morning!
Frozen Fallout Gallente Mecha Enterprises Group	Posted - 2008.07.28 17:12:00 - [112] I hope they don't fix my forum Avatar with Ambulation! :) If they do I QUITING!!! And Yes everyone gets my stuff! ...Or I will just be able to say Meh... and finely be able to shrug my shoulders :P
Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.28 17:13:00 - [113] Edited by: Lui Kai on 28/07/2008 17:14:25 Originally by: Frozen Fallout I hope they don't fix my forum Avatar with Ambulation! :) If they do I QUITING!!! And Yes everyone gets my stuff! ...Or I will just be able to say Meh... and finely be able to shrug my shoulders :P Since you have a body in game, and there's going to be an avatar redesign for ambulation anyway - you can contract your stuff to me now Edit: I'm especially partial to exotic dancers. ---------------- Ambulation Answers
Frozen Fallout Gallente Mecha Enterprises Group	Posted - 2008.07.28 17:17:00 - [114] Edited by: Frozen Fallout on 28/07/2008 17:17:55 Originally by: Lui Kai Since you have a body in game, and there's going to be an avatar redesign for ambulation anyway - you can contract your stuff to me now Edit: I'm especially partial to exotic dancers. Actually don't mind the fix in game :)... My pic in game is actually now fixed but I am wondering if they will be redoing the forum Avatars? My Guess is yes.
Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.28 17:23:00 - [115] Originally by: Frozen Fallout Actually don't mind the fix in game :)... My pic in game is actually now fixed but I am wondering if they will be redoing the forum Avatars? My Guess is yes. Since our in-game avatars will look differently, I'd call it highly likely, yeah. ---------------- Ambulation Answers
Deldrac Bat Country Aegis Militia	Posted - 2008.07.28 19:12:00 - [116] One quetsion not answered by the links... Why?
Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.28 19:32:00 - [117] Originally by: Deldrac One quetsion not answered by the links... Why? Please, please - bash it or praise it in the discussion threads. Trying very hard to keep this one information based. ---------------- Ambulation Answers
Robrina Brun Can Control THORN Alliance	Posted - 2008.07.28 19:37:00 - [118] Edited by: Robrina Brun on 28/07/2008 19:53:29 Edited by: Robrina Brun on 28/07/2008 19:43:24 Originally by: Deldrac One quetsion not answered by the links... Why? Linkage Already answered? EDIT TO REMAIN ON TOPIC: What kind of controls will we have for station 'businesses'? EDIT2: Happy, forum police?
Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.28 19:44:00 - [119] Originally by: Robrina Brun Why not? See above post - seriously. Please. ---------------- Ambulation Answers
Zeba Minmatar Pator Tech School	Posted - 2008.07.28 20:48:00 - [120] Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia Pottsey and Zeba both ask if the exotic dancers will dance. Can you pay for them? I think you just confirmed the existance of single largest isk sink to ever be introduced into Eve Eris. inappropriate signature. ~WeatherMan

Deldrac Bat Country Aegis Militia	Posted - 2008.07.28 21:52:00 - [121] Originally by: Robrina Brun Edited by: Robrina Brun on 28/07/2008 19:53:29 Edited by: Robrina Brun on 28/07/2008 19:43:24 Originally by: Deldrac One question not answered by the links... Why? Linkage Already answered? Actually no. Read the article you linked again. It doesn't answer my question. It talks at great length about 'How?', but doesn't even touch on 'Why?'. There is a serious question here. What on earth motivated CCP to spend time on this? Espeicially given their explanations at the beginning of the development of EVE that they would never develop avatars wandering about stations since it would clearly take focus away from internet spaceships. I have no idea why this is happening. A cynic might suggest that CCPs problem is often too much focus on 'How' and not enough on 'Why'.
Ruze Amarr No Applicable Corporation	Posted - 2008.07.28 22:02:00 - [122] First, it probably has something to do with the massive amount of players who have asked for this feature since the early days of Eve. I know I am one of those people. Note, I didn't say 'majority' and other assumptions, but this is something that interests a lot of players. EvE is a lot of things, and has become a lot of things since it was first created. We know that it's a pvp and responsibility oriented game, with a few RTS elements. But it's also one of the few MMORPGs left on the market. It is a roleplaying game. Ambulation will just help cement that concept a little deeper in the minds of the skeptics. Another reason, which CCP has admitted to and some players view as a bad thing (though I cannot honestly understand why), is that CCP is trying to branch their developing staff into working with avatars, as part of their project with another game. Instead of the staff doing preliminary testing to learn the techniques they need to know, then throwing out this testing when the concept guys at WhiteWolf finalize their project scheme, CCP is going to use the 'practice' and beta to flesh out and add to their own MMO ... EvE. Finally, it also comes down to market. EvE is quickly moving out of the 'cult classic' genre and becoming more popular. MMO's as a whole are becoming a more acceptable form of gaming, no longer the precious havens of DnD fans and LARP enthusiasts. With Ambulation, the thought is that more new players will be able to understand WHY EvE works as it does. Some can overlook logic and lack of 'realism' for their enjoyments. Others need to see their character, to move and view the world they live in, in order for them to better enjoy the game. A lot of the market figures say that women fall into this category. The short answer? Because some gamers want it, and CCP thinks they can make more money by making those gamers happy. It's got my vote all the way, and apparently I'm not alone, even amongst the CCP staff. Genesis Project
Delos Korelian	Posted - 2008.07.28 23:47:00 - [123] Originally by: Ruze First, it probably has something to do with the massive amount of players who have asked for this feature since the early days of Eve. I know I am one of those people. Note, I didn't say 'majority' and other assumptions, but this is something that interests a lot of players. EvE is a lot of things, and has become a lot of things since it was first created. We know that it's a pvp and responsibility oriented game, with a few RTS elements. But it's also one of the few MMORPGs left on the market. It is a roleplaying game. Ambulation will just help cement that concept a little deeper in the minds of the skeptics. Another reason, which CCP has admitted to and some players view as a bad thing (though I cannot honestly understand why), is that CCP is trying to branch their developing staff into working with avatars, as part of their project with another game. Instead of the staff doing preliminary testing to learn the techniques they need to know, then throwing out this testing when the concept guys at WhiteWolf finalize their project scheme, CCP is going to use the 'practice' and beta to flesh out and add to their own MMO ... EvE. Finally, it also comes down to market. EvE is quickly moving out of the 'cult classic' genre and becoming more popular. MMO's as a whole are becoming a more acceptable form of gaming, no longer the precious havens of DnD fans and LARP enthusiasts. With Ambulation, the thought is that more new players will be able to understand WHY EvE works as it does. Some can overlook logic and lack of 'realism' for their enjoyments. Others need to see their character, to move and view the world they live in, in order for them to better enjoy the game. A lot of the market figures say that women fall into this category. The short answer? Because some gamers want it, and CCP thinks they can make more money by making those gamers happy. It's got my vote all the way, and apparently I'm not alone, even amongst the CCP staff. Makes perfect sense to me. I am a big supporter of the Ambulation, and I think this is pretty much on the money. It will allow a degree of greater immersion in the game to actually have a body.
RhajKa	Posted - 2008.07.29 01:33:00 - [124] When I discussed EvE with some of my friends who hadn't played it one of the first questions they asked was 'can you get out of your ship and walk around?' There are alot of people out there who would play it if you could - sounds trivial but some people want 'more' or 'different' from the game than others..... Rhajka
Tenoh	Posted - 2008.07.29 06:10:00 - [125] There would be 3 times more players if the bloody pvpers wouldn't grief you .
ZephyrLexx Caldari Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2008.07.29 06:26:00 - [126] Originally by: Deldrac Originally by: Robrina Brun Edited by: Robrina Brun on 28/07/2008 19:53:29 Edited by: Robrina Brun on 28/07/2008 19:43:24 Originally by: Deldrac One question not answered by the links... Why? Linkage Already answered? Actually no. Read the article you linked again. It doesn't answer my question. It talks at great length about 'How?', but doesn't even touch on 'Why?'. There is a serious question here. What on earth motivated CCP to spend time on this? Espeicially given their explanations at the beginning of the development of EVE that they would never develop avatars wandering about stations since it would clearly take focus away from internet spaceships. I have no idea why this is happening. A cynic might suggest that CCPs problem is often too much focus on 'How' and not enough on 'Why'. because CCP are a game development company, running a business - to attract more customers, you add more features and attractions to your games, duh?
Aeo IV Amarr Xomic OmniCorporation	Posted - 2008.07.29 07:16:00 - [127] Question: Will Ambulation be released as a separate game, and thus receive it's own ESRB? If so, will it be rated higher then EVE Online is?
Purtonias Minmatar	Posted - 2008.07.29 08:12:00 - [128] The why makes sense to me as explained above.. One thing worrys me though, if your grinding missions for ISK as tends to happen at the lower levels, will you be forced to walk from your ship to an agent and back again etc, this will add quite a tortuous lenth to the grind
yosef kaldhu Sarz'na Khumatari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2008.07.29 08:57:00 - [129] Originally by: Purtonias The why makes sense to me as explained above.. One thing worrys me though, if your grinding missions for ISK as tends to happen at the lower levels, will you be forced to walk from your ship to an agent and back again etc, this will add quite a tortuous lenth to the grind You dont have to walk round the station if you dont wont to so if your grinidng missions you can easily stay in your ship and use the interface to get a mission as it is now.
AltBier Minmatar Freelance Unincorporated	Posted - 2008.07.29 09:58:00 - [130] Edited by: AltBier on 29/07/2008 09:58:54 Quote: You can't add new content to Ambulation but all the content has to be produced by the players for the players. http://www.eve-search.com/thread/640689/page/all#67 I'm confused. If we can't add content, how will it be produced by the players?

Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.29 11:03:00 - [131] Originally by: AltBier Edited by: AltBier on 29/07/2008 09:58:54 Quote: You can't add new content to Ambulation but all the content has to be produced by the players for the players. http://www.eve-search.com/thread/640689/page/all#67 I'm confused. If we can't add content, how will it be produced by the players? As in, players won't be designing new things - but all the content does have to be built and ran by players. ---------------- Ambulation Answers
AltBier Minmatar Freelance Unincorporated	Posted - 2008.07.29 11:42:00 - [132] Oh, in the same way modules are manufactured by players?
Dalia Diamond	Posted - 2008.07.29 11:46:00 - [133] Originally by: AltBier Oh, in the same way modules are manufactured by players? Yep. But, I also take it as meaning there won't be NPC shops, bars, et cetera. That all of that will be player driven.
Zinras Caldari Order of draugr	Posted - 2008.07.29 12:18:00 - [134] Edited by: Zinras on 29/07/2008 12:19:45 Edited by: Zinras on 29/07/2008 12:19:33 Edited by: Zinras on 29/07/2008 12:19:04 Originally by: cerbus Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia Originally by: Lui Kai HankMurphy asks if his avatar can be blind. Blind how? Also wouldn't that reset itself with every clone you go through? What do you want to get from blindness, strange path finding or cool glasses? Omg. You just completely destroyed the story behind my corp. Genetic blindness, good sir. No matter how many times you clone yourself, it'll still be your genes And you can always RP getting gene therapy if you want to see again when it comes to walking around in Ambulation Also, a small addition to the exotic dancers thing: Would it be possible to employ your own exotic dancers for your store/corp room/whatever? And will you get cheaper rates if it's dancers you've saved on missions? Added pink to lure Eris to the thread. Originally by: CCP Greyscale moderated - mother abuse - Mitnal Originally by: Jenny Spitfire That si a fact comming out from my bran.
Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.29 13:19:00 - [135] Originally by: Zinras [pink]Would it be possible to employ your own exotic dancers for your store/corp room/whatever? They've said you will be able to employ NPCs, and that there will be exotic dancers, so I'd say this is highly likely. ---------------- Ambulation Answers
Alurcard	Posted - 2008.07.29 16:14:00 - [136] I think alot of people need to go out to real strip clubs instead of dreaming of computer women dancing for them :P
Xevan Templar 7th Batavian Squadron	Posted - 2008.07.29 16:23:00 - [137] Originally by: Alurcard I think alot of people need to go out to real strip clubs instead of dreaming of computer women dancing for them :P Well just going out would do Anyways Im interested in what clothes you can wear. Would be awesome that if you have, say a very high standing with CONCORD, you could actualy walk in a CONCORD uniform. Or for any other faction for that manner. Bought most likely with LP (although CONCORD doesn't have LP, damn ;p)
B1FF	Posted - 2008.07.29 16:34:00 - [138] Originally by: Ruze Others need to see their character, to move and view the world they live in, in order for them to better enjoy the game. That's the fatal flaw. The problem people have with EvE is that they can't accept that space and the ship is the "world they live in." You can already move and view it. There's no world in a station. You're bang on about what people think they want. But that's the problem. They think they want it. No one has been able to answer: Who are you going to ambulate with? Over the next week look at the people you are talking with. Ask yourself the following questions. Are you docked? Are they docked? Are you both docked at the same station? If you answered no to any of them then your social interaction will not benefit from ambu. It will make a good marketing point. But I expect high high churn on the new "walking" subscribers since there's nothing to do but walk.
Xevan Templar 7th Batavian Squadron	Posted - 2008.07.29 17:54:00 - [139] Edited by: Xevan Templar on 29/07/2008 17:54:41 Originally by: B1FF Originally by: Ruze Others need to see their character, to move and view the world they live in, in order for them to better enjoy the game. That's the fatal flaw. The problem people have with EvE is that they can't accept that space and the ship is the "world they live in." You can already move and view it. There's no world in a station. You're bang on about what people think they want. But that's the problem. They think they want it. No one has been able to answer: Who are you going to ambulate with? Over the next week look at the people you are talking with. Ask yourself the following questions. Are you docked? Are they docked? Are you both docked at the same station? If you answered no to any of them then your social interaction will not benefit from ambu. It will make a good marketing point. But I expect high high churn on the new "walking" subscribers since there's nothing to do but walk. You have much to learn young Padawan. You are stepping in the same trap here. It's your vision you discribe above, but that is 'your own personal viewpoint'. Others will see if differently. There is no universal right or wrong here. So there is no fatal flaw, besides you stepping into your own trap
Ruze Amarr No Applicable Corporation	Posted - 2008.07.29 18:06:00 - [140] Edited by: Ruze on 29/07/2008 18:06:39 Lui Kai and the devs in general: Will the officers quarters upgradeable? Can we get a 'luxury quarters' later on? And if so, will it be at all dependent on the size of the ship? Will I be able to put said luxury quarters in my frigate as well as in my battleship? Also: Will it be possible to invite others into your quarters, or will they be like a ship hangar in a station, available only to the owner of the ship? Finally: I saw mention of owning several quarters, and I wonder if they have their own tab in station, or will they be something that sits in your Items tab? Can you trade a quarters with another player, even if it has items inside it? Genesis Project

Dalia Diamond	Posted - 2008.07.29 18:14:00 - [141] Originally by: Ruze Edited by: Ruze on 29/07/2008 18:06:39 Lui Kai and the devs in general: Will the officers quarters upgradeable? Can we get a 'luxury quarters' later on? And if so, will it be at all dependent on the size of the ship? Will I be able to put said luxury quarters in my frigate as well as in my battleship? Also: Will it be possible to invite others into your quarters, or will they be like a ship hangar in a station, available only to the owner of the ship? Finally: I saw mention of owning several quarters, and I wonder if they have their own tab in station, or will they be something that sits in your Items tab? Can you trade a quarters with another player, even if it has items inside it? They haven't said if there's different variety of quarters that can be fitted to the ship, but I'd imagine so. They have said that you can control who can enter a store/office/quarters based on several different criteria. As to trading, from what they've said it seems likely that there will be two varieties of quarters - a captains quarters, that goes along with your ship, and shops/offices which sound more like a station service. The ship quarters - I doubt this will be a fitting (Gimps the ship's usefullness), but more likely something vaguely like a rig, or just inherent to the ship itself. They haven't said if it will be tradable after being fitted to a ship en total, but I'd imagine all the things "in" it would be.
Dalia Diamond	Posted - 2008.07.29 18:16:00 - [142] Edited by: Dalia Diamond on 29/07/2008 18:16:09 Double post
Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.29 18:17:00 - [143] Damn alt keeps jumping in the way today - no matter how many times I check "default character" on Lui. This happening to anyone else? But, anyway - Dalia = me in the reply above. ---------------- Ambulation Answers
Ruze Amarr No Applicable Corporation	Posted - 2008.07.29 18:21:00 - [144] Sorry, I guess I was confusing with 'officers' quarters. I totally meant the 'captains' quarters. I know there's no concrete information, but the whole concept interests me. Genesis Project
Zinras Caldari Order of draugr	Posted - 2008.07.29 18:46:00 - [145] Edited by: Zinras on 29/07/2008 18:46:34 Originally by: B1FF No one has been able to answer: Who are you going to ambulate with? Other people? Or does "MMO" not include saying hello to strangers anymore? Yes, how dare people sometimes want to take a break from the regular EVE world and go have some fun with other stuff in the game? Truly a horrible crime right there. Likewise, I'd say that rather than other people not being able to accept they live in the ships (what have most of them been doing in the last few years, then?), it would be more accurate to state it is you who can't accept that people leave their ship sometimes and utilise those weird limbs below the waist Tbh, I don't even understand what it is about Ambulation that brings forth the nerdrage in people such as yourself. It's not being developed by the EVE devs and it isn't taking place on TQ, so it won't add lag or take anything away from the game. In fact, it would likely help some systems a bit, as the various would-be stationhuggers won't browse the market and do other lag-inducing things while in stations. So the question is: Why do you whine about it, instead of letting the people who want it enjoy the feature and let those that don't enjoy a more lag free game? Originally by: CCP Greyscale moderated - mother abuse - Mitnal Originally by: Jenny Spitfire That si a fact comming out from my bran.
B1FF	Posted - 2008.07.29 18:56:00 - [146] Originally by: Zinras Edited by: Zinras on 29/07/2008 18:46:34 Originally by: B1FF No one has been able to answer: Who are you going to ambulate with? Other people? Or does "MMO" not include saying hello to strangers anymore? These people you interact with are you docked when you interact with them? Are they? Are you both at the same station? If any answer is no then you won't be making use of ambulation.
B1FF	Posted - 2008.07.29 19:00:00 - [147] Originally by: Xevan Templar You have much to learn young Padawan. You are stepping in the same trap here. It's your vision you discribe above, but that is 'your own personal viewpoint'. Others will see if differently. There is no universal right or wrong here. So there is no fatal flaw, besides you stepping into your own trap No I don't. There is a universal right or wrong. Outside ambulation is where game mechanics happen. That's where things happen. That makes it the world. Ambulation is merely housing.
Zinras Caldari Order of draugr	Posted - 2008.07.29 19:02:00 - [148] Originally by: B1FF Originally by: Zinras Edited by: Zinras on 29/07/2008 18:46:34 Originally by: B1FF No one has been able to answer: Who are you going to ambulate with? Other people? Or does "MMO" not include saying hello to strangers anymore? These people you interact with are you docked when you interact with them? Are they? Are you both at the same station? If any answer is no then you won't be making use of ambulation. GJ on avoiding the questions there.. And yes, yes they do. I know, local is SO hard to use and so is single chats or open channels. Very, very difficult, I can assure you. But some of us manage anyway, so please have your hissy fit somewhere else. Originally by: CCP Greyscale moderated - mother abuse - Mitnal Originally by: Jenny Spitfire That si a fact comming out from my bran.
Disteeler Tribal Liberation Force	Posted - 2008.07.29 19:21:00 - [149] haha the BIFF dude again? about the same? XD yeah I'm sorry I'm feeding him... Sig by Black Necris
Zinras Caldari Order of draugr	Posted - 2008.07.29 19:22:00 - [150] Edited by: Zinras on 29/07/2008 19:22:36 Originally by: B1FF Edited by: B1FF on 29/07/2008 19:20:14 Originally by: Zinras GJ on avoiding the questions there. Thanks. But I did answer them. No, no you didn't. Here it is in nice bold letters for you: Why do you whine about it, instead of letting the people who want it enjoy the feature and let those that don't enjoy a more lag free game? Originally by: CCP Greyscale moderated - mother abuse - Mitnal Originally by: Jenny Spitfire That si a fact comming out from my bran.

Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.29 19:25:00 - [151] /sigh Well, it was nice while it lasted, anyways. ---------------- Ambulation Answers
Ruze Amarr No Applicable Corporation	Posted - 2008.07.29 19:26:00 - [152] I hate feeding this argument, but I have to say this because it makes me feel better about myself, so I can honestly believe that i brought a little logic to the world: What you value, isn't valued by everyone. What others value that you don't value, doesn't mean it's not worth anything. If your only arguing this post because you don't have any interest in Ambulation, then you just need to be ignored. Apparently, there are people who DO want this, and if they devs are going to do it, we're happy. I so very much wish I could ignore the comments of some people who are this self centered. And, as always, I want to be able to see how many people have ignored mine ;?j Genesis Project
B1FF	Posted - 2008.07.29 19:34:00 - [153] Originally by: Zinras Here it is in nice bold letters for you: Why do you whine about it, instead of letting the people who want it enjoy the feature and let those that don't enjoy a more lag free game? I haven't whined once about it. I point out the flaws with ambulation because I feel that it is broken as designed. The people who think they will use it are wrong. Only tourists, merchants who don't undock atm (But not if they perceive any sort of market delay from inside ambulation. That is if they can even access the market from it.), and a minority of the RPers will use it. It will never see widespread usage because it is to limited in scope (same station) and there are no game mechanics. I ignore your point about lag, that's unprovable either for or against.
B1FF	Posted - 2008.07.29 19:47:00 - [154] Originally by: Ruze I hate feeding this argument, but I have to say this because it makes me feel better about myself, so I can honestly believe that i brought a little logic to the world: I agree completely. Quote: If your only arguing this post because you don't have any interest in Ambulation, then you just need to be ignored. Apparently, there are people who DO want this, and if they devs are going to do it, we're happy. I have interest in ambulation. There are people who think they want it. The devs are going to release it. But from the info we have a week after it's released people are going to be complaining that there is nothing to do in ambulation and no one to do it with. They're going to put it in. I don't want it to be a waste. So I raise issues and rather than acknowledging the flaws and trying to fix them the trolls come running with their crys of shut up and who cares what you think. Currently you can do anything and chat but with ambulation you can do nothing and chat. People are just not going to make that choice. If people want avatars and emotes then give us video phone capabilities. We can use those without both parties having to be docked and out of the game.
Xevan Templar 7th Batavian Squadron	Posted - 2008.07.29 20:52:00 - [155] Originally by: B1FF No I don't. There is a universal right or wrong. Outside ambulation is where game mechanics happen. That's where things happen. That makes it the world. Ambulation is merely housing. That is your personal opinion. And you're completely free to state it. However, since it's your opinion it doesn't make it an universal opinion. Some people will agree with you, some don't. That's how things go.
Antonia Frak Republic University	Posted - 2008.07.29 20:53:00 - [156] I think the purpose of this thread is about compiling information not about dicsussing things (we don't already have information about!). I suggest opening a thread in the development subforum if you want to discuss such things (that you already discussed ad eternum in the past). If you continue this way the thread might loose it's purpose...and it's a good thread btw.
Ruze Amarr No Applicable Corporation	Posted - 2008.07.29 21:00:00 - [157] From what I can see, Ambulation is supposed to add meeting areas for corps and combat units, with tools to allow everyone to take part in planning ops and whatnot. Also, recruiting areas for new players, with NPC's who can answer simple questions and climatize a player with the values of the corp. And then theres the businesses, which are another way of making money. Time wasting content is valuable to a lot of individuals. Many games have proven that in the past. We had parties in MxO, in static locations that had no actual purpose, with hundreds of people dancing and having a good time. SWG was made famous, before it was changed, with allowing players to be 100% non combat, and had much of it's resources aimed at clubs, entertaining and dancing or making music. This doesn't appeal to everyone. No sh*t. But those it does appeal to bring might find the beauty and simplicity of this proposed addition, and then may find other things they like. It's like the hope with high-sec. So many hope that all those NPC mission runners may get introduced to PvP and like it. And it happens all the time. But if CCP never created the basis and rules to bring other types of gamers into the world, we'd never have the playerbase we have now. And CCP damn sure wouldn't have had the money to add the graphics upgrades or increase the server hardware. Without players, you can't make money. Without money, you can't keep the game running. And if the game stops running, where would we all be then? If your willing to completely reject an entire audience of players of the simple fact that YOU see no reason for the addition or content that they might enjoy, because YOU don't like it or don't value it, then why are you even commenting? Why not go play another game, that only appeals to your particular interests? Genesis Project
Dalia Diamond	Posted - 2008.07.29 21:18:00 - [158] Edited by: Dalia Diamond on 29/07/2008 21:18:53 Originally by: Antonia Frak I think the purpose of this thread is about compiling information not about dicsussing things (we don't already have information about!). I suggest opening a thread in the development subforum if you want to discuss such things (that you already discussed ad eternum in the past). If you continue this way the thread might loose it's purpose...and it's a good thread btw. At least someone got the point ;) Cheers Antonia. Edit: Good lord. If this alt keeps getting in the way like this, it's getting deleted.
B1FF	Posted - 2008.07.29 22:35:00 - [159] Originally by: Ruze Time wasting content is valuable to a lot of individuals. Many games have proven that in the past. We had parties in MxO, in static locations that had no actual purpose, with hundreds of people dancing and having a good time. SWG was made famous, before it was changed, with allowing players to be 100% non combat, and had much of it's resources aimed at clubs, entertaining and dancing or making music. You're missing a major fact here. The clubs, entertaining, and dancing in SWG were directly related to combat. There was a cause and effect relationship. People needed entertainers to continue participating in combat. There was significant though and design put into entertainers to make them used. People did not use them simply because they were there. I'm not rejecting an audience. I feel that ambu as it has been shown to us will not draw the targeted audience. So to keep Lui happy. My questions: Other products already do 3D chat orders of magnitude better than Ambu. What game mechanics will cause people to use ambulation? What is the incentive that offsets the significant limitations imposed? Can we play poker and other mini-games outside ambulation? Say while mining or camping or assault staging? Can the tactical map be used outside ambulation or do we need to memorize it before we leave? Are poker and the tactical map even going to be in the first release?
Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.29 22:57:00 - [160] Edited by: Lui Kai on 29/07/2008 22:59:37 Originally by: B1FF Can we play poker and other mini-games outside ambulation? Say while mining or camping or assault staging? From the posts made on it, I'd hazard a guess saying no. All the talk mentions hiring an NPC to host the gambling, which implies an office needed. Originally by: B1FF Can the tactical map be used outside ambulation or do we need to memorize it before we leave? F10 - it's already in game. If you mean the ways people have talked about using the tactical map in ambulation (CEO whiteboard type stuff), I'd presume it can be used outside, since they've not said. But they haven't yet confirmed what features the map will have at all, beyond the version already available in-pod, so it's hard to hazard a guess here. Originally by: B1FF Are poker and the tactical map even going to be in the first release? They've said the tactical map would be. They said they wanted the gambling to be, but haven't much mentioned it in about a year. If I were forced to bet on it (no pun intended) I'd imagine so, as gambling can't really require complicated mechanics of any real degree. ---------------- Ambulation Answers

Zinras Caldari Order of draugr	Posted - 2008.07.30 01:16:00 - [161] Edited by: Zinras on 30/07/2008 01:21:32 Edited by: Zinras on 30/07/2008 01:21:06 Edited by: Zinras on 30/07/2008 01:19:36 Edited by: Zinras on 30/07/2008 01:18:49 Edited by: Zinras on 30/07/2008 01:17:49 Originally by: B1FF Originally by: Zinras Here it is in nice bold letters for you: Why do you whine about it, instead of letting the people who want it enjoy the feature and let those that don't enjoy a more lag free game? I point out the flaws with ambulation because I feel that it is broken as designed... Exactly here is where your complaints turn from something you can argue about and into "BAAAAWWWWW". Why? Because you're assuming that because CCP hasn't mailed you a very large (or according to you, small) checklist of everything that will be possible in Ambulation, it isn't going to be there. Likewise, you expect every station ever to be a huge megacomplex of nothingness, instead of realising that Ambulation will likely add new hubs, assuming CCP isn't limiting the number of walkable stations at first (which I tbh find likely). While only a fool will believe everything they intend to put in will be there at first, it's incredibly silly to dismiss everything because you don't like it. Your argumentation isn't based on what will be useful for the community as a whole, it is based on the "fact" that because they haven't told you everything, they're not putting anything in it, and as such no one should want it. It's pretty much like going back to 2003 and saying everything that'll be added from now on sucks because it isn't here now, isn't explained 100% and doesn't run according to current mechanics (think of how much have had to be nerfed/boosted since then to get it to work --- I don't see cruise launchers on my frigs, for instance). And finally, you have failed to realise what Eris has said in this thread: They aren't going to tell you a damn thing until november because part of fanfest is unveiling Ambulation. Originally by: Lui Kai Originally by: B1FF Are poker and the tactical map even going to be in the first release? They've said the tactical map would be. They said they wanted the gambling to be, but haven't much mentioned it in about a year. If I were forced to bet on it (no pun intended) I'd imagine so, as gambling can't really require complicated mechanics of any real degree. Yes, something like a dice roller is pretty easy to implement. There are tons of them out there on the web and I've also tried playing blackjack in NWN with other people in a multiplayer game. So basically, gambling should be easy to implement and will likely be there. Exactly how it will be implemented will be interesting to see, though, as they might limit the number of players per game for certain types of games (poker, for instance). EDIT: Zinras fails at English Originally by: CCP Greyscale moderated - mother abuse - Mitnal Originally by: Jenny Spitfire That si a fact comming out from my bran.
Eran Laude Gallente Strix Armaments and Defence	Posted - 2008.07.30 07:08:00 - [162] B1FF, you can go troll the 45-page thread TBH, this is a sticky for a reason; it's very informative and up until now has been a shining example of a good thread. Anyway, question for Eris: Will we be able to design our clothes in-game for our stores or will choices be limited to those made by CCP?
AltBier Minmatar Freelance Unincorporated	Posted - 2008.07.30 08:50:00 - [163] Edited by: AltBier on 30/07/2008 08:53:11 -
AltBier Minmatar Freelance Unincorporated	Posted - 2008.07.30 09:08:00 - [164] Edited by: AltBier on 30/07/2008 09:07:45 Originally by: Eran Laude Will we be able to design our clothes in-game for our stores or will choices be limited to those made by CCP? See the reply here: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=829249&page=5#132 We can't design new stuff, it seems.
Eran Laude Gallente Strix Armaments and Defence	Posted - 2008.07.30 09:52:00 - [165] Originally by: AltBier Edited by: AltBier on 30/07/2008 09:07:45 Originally by: Eran Laude Will we be able to design our clothes in-game for our stores or will choices be limited to those made by CCP? See the reply here: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=829249&page=5#132 We can't design new stuff, it seems. Tarnation, ta for pointing me to that though.
B1FF	Posted - 2008.07.30 10:51:00 - [166] Originally by: Zinras Exactly here is where your complaints turn from something you can argue about and into "BAAAAWWWWW". Why? Because you're assuming that because CCP hasn't mailed you a very large (or according to you, small) checklist of everything that will be possible in Ambulation, it isn't going to be there. Likewise, you expect every station ever to be a huge megacomplex of nothingness, instead of realising that Ambulation will likely add new hubs, assuming CCP isn't limiting the number of walkable stations at first (which I tbh find likely). Yeah there's a slight problem with your position. If I can't hold my position because not enough info has been released then you can't hold your position because not enough info has been released. In fact no one can hold a position on ambu. All of the points I bring up are valid. I don't throw around "supposed" features or wishful thinking. The fanbois are constantly making things up. Go read the threads. I want ambu because <feature that has never been mentioned>! And then we have the coup de grace. In your paragraph *****ing about people commenting without having info you start making things up. Limited rollout? Really. Where did they say that? A citation please.
B1FF	Posted - 2008.07.30 11:03:00 - [167] Originally by: Lui Kai Originally by: B1FF Are poker and the tactical map even going to be in the first release? They've said the tactical map would be. They said they wanted the gambling to be, but haven't much mentioned it in about a year. If I were forced to bet on it (no pun intended) I'd imagine so, as gambling can't really require complicated mechanics of any real degree. Lui can you link the appropriate Dev Responses or are you just making things up? Is this a CCP answer thread or a Lui's opinion thread? The dev blog on the Map says that they're in the design phase. Nothing more. You also take some liberties with some of your headers. For example on the lag one. In the first one he says "there will be little if any lag" The second link doesn't mention lag. He's responding to people worried about lag but he never mentions lag. In the third one he say's that they will "likely be hosted on a different server" and "We do not want to add lag to space." That's significantly different than your statement of "Ambulation will not cause lag." Can you please try and keep things factual?
Zinras Caldari Order of draugr	Posted - 2008.07.30 11:26:00 - [168] Originally by: B1FF Originally by: Zinras Exactly here is where your complaints turn from something you can argue about and into "BAAAAWWWWW". Why? Because you're assuming that because CCP hasn't mailed you a very large (or according to you, small) checklist of everything that will be possible in Ambulation, it isn't going to be there. Likewise, you expect every station ever to be a huge megacomplex of nothingness, instead of realising that Ambulation will likely add new hubs, assuming CCP isn't limiting the number of walkable stations at first (which I tbh find likely). Yeah there's a slight problem with your position. If I can't hold my position because not enough info has been released then you can't hold your position because not enough info has been released. In fact no one can hold a position on ambu. All of the points I bring up are valid. I don't throw around "supposed" features or wishful thinking. The fanbois are constantly making things up. Go read the threads. I want ambu because <feature that has never been mentioned>! And then we have the coup de grace. In your paragraph ****ing about people commenting without having info you start making things up. Limited rollout? Really. Where did they say that? A citation please. PROTIP: It's a personal oppinion, which is why I said "likely" and "I think". However, you state your oppinion* as fact, which is fail and has nothing to do in this thread, thus why you're trolling and whining. If you actually wanted to ask about these things you'd post a question to Eris who has answered the thread multiple times already. But you don't. And as you say, your points are no more valid than any other points, which makes all your posts in this thread invalid, as it is about information. Something you have not requested or provided. You don't want info, you merely want to proclaim that you don't like ambulation, even though you have no more reason to dislike it than the rest have to like it. This is why it is whining. You're complaining about a feature you don't know anything about and due to your lack of questions, don't want to know about. As for questions, I wonder exactly how stores in Ambulation will function. Do you get some sort of NPC to take orders for you? Likewise, what sort of items are planned to be sold in ambulation? Because it would be cool if you could sell stuff with ingame value, such as various boosters, especially otherwise illegal ones. Originally by: CCP Greyscale moderated - mother abuse - Mitnal Originally by: Jenny Spitfire That si a fact comming out from my bran.
RhajKa	Posted - 2008.07.30 12:01:00 - [169] Edited by: RhajKa on 30/07/2008 12:04:43 Edited by: RhajKa on 30/07/2008 12:01:55 Being pretty new to EvE it has been interesting reading some of the negative comments about ambulation. A lot of it comes from the view point of the here and now - what we have got used to and why some (all?) current gamers play the game. Some (alot) People have dedicated many hours of game play to the current game. Why? because they love the game as it is now. They are so enamoured with the current game that they are not really interested in a radically different aspect of the game being introduced (one that doesn't allow you to kill people maybe? or perhaps that instant 'grind speed' of leveling that the current crop of MMORPG game players consider so important. AND I WANT TO SAY THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH PLAYERS FOLLOWING/BELIEVING ANY OF THE ABOVE BUT..... you must understand there are many people who will love 'playing the game' because you can create your own character and corp rooms/ living quaters and wear designer suits etc.... And 'playing the game' for some people might be running a bar 24/7, or a shop, or a tailors etc.... - amazingly enough there are non psychopathic people out there who would be interested in this ...... Vanity, vanity all is vanity I have already started fleshing out in my mind what I want to achieve in the long run - as an Amarr religous zealot I will obviously want to gather all the sacred blueprint texts together, so I will need somewhere to store them - a grand library designed be me.... I will want a place to worship - a grand temple/conference room, designed by me....and then my Holy Order (corporation) of fanatical monks (and nuns) will all be dressed in a certain type of priestly robe, the design of which will depend on the rank of their brotherhood and created be the tailor down the corridor of course at a premium price.... Meetings in our private temple will start with religous greetings (bowing etc) and then readings from the holy scriptures, different religous rites and actions will take place etc - then after the service we will discuss our battle plans for galactical domination etc.... The corporation will have a limited but dedicated (fanatical) number of players who will want to join but the in depth imersion will be amazing. The above example is just off the top of my head related to things metioned on other web sites, but I really want to see this rolled out onto planets etc........ And then introduce fighting. Going off the above topic abit here but it would be great for fighting and killing to be introduced - I saw one complaint about powerful characters getting ganked by fresh newbies - my answer - so what? - the top mafia boss doesn't walk around in his enemies neighbourhood without a great deal of protection - actually it would be very realistic - so the top dog has the big ship, but hides away from public gaze and holds up in his own station palace where 'invited guests' are allowed to visit - the price for power I guess..... and then there is a whole new level for bounty hunting, assassination and the very real problem of terrorism! Geeeez! I really need to go and lie down..... Rhajka
B1FF	Posted - 2008.07.30 12:04:00 - [170] Originally by: Zinras But you don't. But I did. plonk

Xevan Templar 7th Batavian Squadron	Posted - 2008.07.30 15:15:00 - [171] To get back on topic, I watched 2007 fanfest again, and the costumes are great. However he didn't talk about faction standing uniforms. So will faction standing uniforms implemented at the start, later on, or not at all? Would be nice to recognice other players when they have the same faction uniform. Creates abit of a bond so to say
B1FF	Posted - 2008.07.30 15:21:00 - [172] Edited by: B1FF on 30/07/2008 15:21:46 I think they mean uniform in the sense of everyone dressing the same. It won't be implemented so much as do it your self.
Xevan Templar 7th Batavian Squadron	Posted - 2008.07.30 15:44:00 - [173] Edited by: Xevan Templar on 30/07/2008 15:44:28 Originally by: B1FF Edited by: B1FF on 30/07/2008 15:21:46 I think they mean uniform in the sense of everyone dressing the same. It won't be implemented so much as do it your self. I know what you mean, the game will start with a relativly small selection of clothes you can chose to begin with. People who begin/own a clothing shopp can get blueprints and will be able to produce 'new' clothes. He also mentioned dying clothes etc so shop owners can color clothes and such. My question was if it is possible to get 'special' cloths/uniform/set from factions. You can buy alot of stuff, even ships, now using LP, and I would like to know if you can also buy clothing/uniform/sets from LP stores.
B1FF	Posted - 2008.07.30 15:48:00 - [174] They have not mentioned such a thing.
Ruze Amarr No Applicable Corporation	Posted - 2008.07.30 16:31:00 - [175] Edited by: Ruze on 30/07/2008 16:32:20 "The greatest offense is no defense."
Robrina Brun The Blueshift Cartel THORN Alliance	Posted - 2008.07.30 17:11:00 - [176] Q: Will a way to 'advertise' an establishment outside of Ambulation be made available? You've mentioned that hotspots will develop by themselves, but aside from spamming local to advertise your new clothing shop or uhh.. 'Entertainment' establishment; will there be other ways to advertise?
B1FF	Posted - 2008.07.30 17:17:00 - [177] Originally by: Robrina Brun Q: Will a way to 'advertise' an establishment outside of Ambulation be made available? You've mentioned that hotspots will develop by themselves, but aside from spamming local to advertise your new clothing shop or uhh.. 'Entertainment' establishment; will there be other ways to advertise? They have not mentioned such a thing.
Robrina Brun The Blueshift Cartel THORN Alliance	Posted - 2008.07.30 17:20:00 - [178] Edited by: Robrina Brun on 30/07/2008 17:22:25 Originally by: B1FF Originally by: Robrina Brun Q: Will a way to 'advertise' an establishment outside of Ambulation be made available? You've mentioned that hotspots will develop by themselves, but aside from spamming local to advertise your new clothing shop or uhh.. 'Entertainment' establishment; will there be other ways to advertise? They have not mentioned such a thing. Are you a dev? I wasn't aware of your promotion. The question was addressed to Eris, or another qualified individual. That's what this thread is for, right?
Ruze Amarr No Applicable Corporation	Posted - 2008.07.30 17:25:00 - [179] Originally by: Robrina Brun Edited by: Robrina Brun on 30/07/2008 17:22:25 Originally by: B1FF Originally by: Robrina Brun Q: Will a way to 'advertise' an establishment outside of Ambulation be made available? You've mentioned that hotspots will develop by themselves, but aside from spamming local to advertise your new clothing shop or uhh.. 'Entertainment' establishment; will there be other ways to advertise? They have not mentioned such a thing. Are you a dev? I wasn't aware of your promotion. The question was addressed to Eris, or another qualified individual. That's what this thread is for, right? Lui Kai has done the same thing, though she tends to actually look up responses and give links when they are available. Hopefully, the devs can still provide an answer if they have one, somewhere. "The greatest offense is no defense."
B1FF	Posted - 2008.07.30 17:31:00 - [180] Originally by: Ruze Lui Kai has done the same thing, though she tends to actually look up responses and give links when they are available. Hopefully, the devs can still provide an answer if they have one, somewhere. Please show me how to link to the absence of information.

Ruze Amarr No Applicable Corporation	Posted - 2008.07.30 17:47:00 - [181] Originally by: B1FF Originally by: Ruze Lui Kai has done the same thing, though she tends to actually look up responses and give links when they are available. Hopefully, the devs can still provide an answer if they have one, somewhere. Please show me how to link to the absence of information. Hmm. Are you naturally contentious, or do you think your just being carefully neutral? "The greatest offense is no defense."
Neth'Rae Gallente Decorum Inc Tygris Alliance	Posted - 2008.07.30 17:52:00 - [182] Originally by: cerbus Originally by: Lui Kai Can't you just continuing to roleplay blindness, like you're doing now? There's nothing to "prove" your character can see. If you're absolutly that fussed about it, just use eve voice with your corpmates when you get out of your pod and turn the monitor off - same effect. Thx you just made my morning! lol, though if you're really serious about it you can always pretend it's some kind of jovian desease that has affected your genes, or maybe it gets transfered along with your mind, like a psychological illness.. Request signatures at EVE-GFX
Robrina Brun The Blueshift Cartel THORN Alliance	Posted - 2008.07.30 18:00:00 - [183] Originally by: Ruze Originally by: Robrina Brun Are you a dev? I wasn't aware of your promotion. The question was addressed to Eris, or another qualified individual. That's what this thread is for, right? Lui Kai has done the same thing, though she tends to actually look up responses and give links when they are available. Hopefully, the devs can still provide an answer if they have one, somewhere. I consider Lui Kai one of the said qualified individuals. As far as I had read, they hadn't mentioned anything on it.. so B1FF's response was not profitable.
Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.30 20:10:00 - [184] Originally by: Robrina Brun I consider Lui Kai one of the said qualified individuals. As far as I had read, they hadn't mentioned anything on it.. so B1FF's response was not profitable. Cheers for that :) But my only "qualification" is to have read all that linked stuff above, and extrapolate - so take that for what it's worth. ---------------- Ambulation Answers
Faraelle Brightman Gallente Placid Reborn	Posted - 2008.07.30 23:07:00 - [185] Originally by: Eran Laude B1FF, you can go troll the 45-page thread TBH, this is a sticky for a reason; it's very informative and up until now has been a shining example of a good thread. He has been...for the last 6+ months. tries to think of a question that would make her post on-topic. Will the "captian's quarters" be accessable off-ship/will there be an option to just have a room in a station? Having it be tied to the ship IMO would be a hastle when you're constantly jumping between various ships; people who expect their ships blown up on a regular basis might not want to carry it with them much at all.
Dalia Diamond	Posted - 2008.07.31 01:23:00 - [186] Edited by: Dalia Diamond on 31/07/2008 01:23:04 /sigh Alt post
Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.31 01:23:00 - [187] Edited by: Lui Kai on 31/07/2008 01:25:02 Okay, in the hopes of another appearance from everyone's favorite ambulatory lady - Here's a collection of the questions asked since Eris's last visit. Eris, if you have the time at all, any answers would be deeply appreciated Robrina Brun asks what kind of controls will we have for station 'businesses'? Aeo IV asks if Ambulation will receive it's own ESRB rating (seperate from Eve)? If so, will it be rated higher then EVE Online is? Zinras asks if it will be possible to employ your own exotic dancers for your store/corp room/whatever? And if rates will be cheaper if it's dancers you've saved on missions? Xevan Templar asks if there will be NPC faction uniforms that can purchased by players for LP. Ruze asks if captians quarters are upgradable, if the quarters are a ship fitting or a station service, if they are a ship fitting if they vary by ship size/type, if quarters can be traded between players, and if other players can be invited in to your private quarters. B1FF asks (And I throw in my vote for seeing this answered, as well) aside from walking, what will be the real draw of Ambulation, to convince people to get out of the pod, other than for novelty's sake? B1FF also asks if the features available to ambulation (gambling, tactical map, et cetera) will be available for use without getting out of the pod, or from space? Also, will the tactical map/gambling be included in the first release of Ambulation? Xevan Templar asks if corp/faction uniforms will be in the first release. Robrina Brun asks if, other than spamming local/public channels/forums, will there be a way to "advertise" for Ambulation shops/bars/casinos? Faraelle Brightman asks if the "captian's quarters" be accessable off-ship or will there be an option to just have a room in a station, for those players who would rather not see their rooms blown apart every time they pvp. Again, Eris, if you're reading this - we all appreciate any time you can spare this thread, and realize how horrifically busy you must be getting this all shined up for Fanfest. -L ---------------- Ambulation Answers
Duriel Zhan Caldari Uitra Gang Miners Inc	Posted - 2008.07.31 10:37:00 - [188] Great job Lui Kai, I'm sure those summaries help Eris a lot. I spend a lot of time docked even when war targets are not camping outside the station. Ambulation offers me a great way to meet and possibly recruit new people. Local chat just isn't good enough for me for that purpose, I want to play Eve as a MMORPG, not "just" a MMOG. Because I'm in a newbie-friendly corp I tend to run into a lot of very young and immature players with give-me-everything-now attitudes and whose every other word seems to be "lol". Very annoying. Will I be able to somehow ignore them when walking in stations?
Eran Laude Gallente Federal Defence Union	Posted - 2008.07.31 11:12:00 - [189] One more to add to Lui's list: Short of spam and troublesome cans, will there be any way of advertising your business in EVE?
Zephyr Rengate dearg doom	Posted - 2008.07.31 12:15:00 - [190] Is it too late to cancel ambulation?

Jowen Datloran Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2008.07.31 12:51:00 - [191] Originally by: Zephyr Rengate Is it too late to cancel ambulation? [evil poke] Maybe, but never too late to cancel your subscription. [/evil poke] ---------------- Mr. Science & Trade Institute
B1FF	Posted - 2008.07.31 14:38:00 - [192] Originally by: Lui Kai Originally by: B1FF Are poker and the tactical map even going to be in the first release? They've said the tactical map would be. They said they wanted the gambling to be, but haven't much mentioned it in about a year. If I were forced to bet on it (no pun intended) I'd imagine so, as gambling can't really require complicated mechanics of any real degree. I can't find this. Link please?
Robrina Brun The Blueshift Cartel THORN Alliance	Posted - 2008.07.31 15:19:00 - [193] Which part, the tactical maps, the gambling, or the 'confirmation' that either of those will be in the first release? BTW: for your tactical maps question, check out the Dev blog on that same topic. :)

CCP Eris Discordia	Posted - 2008.07.31 16:12:00 - [194] Originally by: Lui Kai Robrina Brun asks what kind of controls will we have for station 'businesses'? The UI will probably be the same, the way you access it might be different. Aeo IV asks if Ambulation will receive it's own ESRB rating (seperate from Eve)? If so, will it be rated higher then EVE Online is? Ambulation and EVE Online are one game, so no different ratings Zinras asks if it will be possible to employ your own exotic dancers for your store/corp room/whatever? Probably, depends if we ban them from those areas or not. B1FF asks (And I throw in my vote for seeing this answered, as well) aside from walking, what will be the real draw of Ambulation, to convince people to get out of the pod, other than for novelty's sake? Socializing, Gambling, Owning and maintaining rooms B1FF also asks if the features available to ambulation (gambling, tactical map, et cetera) will be available for use without getting out of the pod, or from space? Some might be Robrina Brun asks if, other than spamming local/public channels/forums, will there be a way to "advertise" for Ambulation shops/bars/casinos? There might be some way to advertise but not very in your face. Neth'Rae asks if we will be able to choose music to play in player run bars. This is something we are exploring Again, Eris, if you're reading this - we all appreciate any time you can spare this thread, and realize how horrifically busy you must be getting this all shined up for Fanfest. Many questions go into such details that there simply is no answer for them at this stage, and again I don¦t want to tell everything already about Ambulation. But it is good to see what areas people are really interested in. -L Pink Dread has been hijacked

Ruze Amarr No Applicable Corporation	Posted - 2008.07.31 16:26:00 - [195] Thanks, Eris. And Lui. Let's keep this ball of information rolling. I did notice that these are some of the dodged subjects: - Captains Quarters - Uniforms - Tactical Map Also, though no questions were asked about them, I'd really like to keep my eye out for these: - Virtual Ship Fitting planner (EFT and Quickfit, allowing even 'projected' fittings) - In-game 3-d ship viewer (see a ship and it's looks before you buy it) - Profession Planner (think EvE-Mon, with hints, defined goals, and specific for your character) - Player-made Agents and Missions (with NPC's, dialogs, rewards and possibly even scams) - Implant Removal Shops (surgeon takes out your implant, for a price) - Black Market (Goods, vendors, trafficing and stock trading) - Tactical Map Functionality (Route planners, notes and alerts, color coding systems and intelligence gathering) "The greatest offense is no defense."
B1FF	Posted - 2008.07.31 16:34:00 - [196] Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia B1FF also asks if the features available to ambulation (gambling, tactical map, et cetera) will be available for use without getting out of the pod, or from space? Some might be Here's the original question from Lui's post. Quote: B1FF also asks if the features available to ambulation (gambling, tactical map, et cetera) will be available for use without getting out of the pod, or from space? Also, will the tactical map/gambling be included in the first release of Ambulation? The item about gambling and/or tactical map being in the first release was removed. I would like to ask again. Will tactical map and/or gambling be in the first release? Heck how about: What will be in the first release?
Ruze Amarr No Applicable Corporation	Posted - 2008.07.31 16:43:00 - [197] "They have not mentioned such a thing." Another quote for you, since maybe you missed it. "Many questions go into such details that there simply is no answer for them at this stage, and again I don¦t want to tell everything already about Ambulation. " "The greatest offense is no defense."

CCP Eris Discordia	Posted - 2008.07.31 16:53:00 - [198] Reason why I ¦ignore¦ some questions 1) It is simply not up to me to answer this 2) It is not up to me to answer this at the moment 3) I don¦t want to answer it and be remembered of the answer in 5 years to come from now. Repeating the question will not make me answer it either. Again, if your questions wasn¦t answered it does mean I read it and took a note of it to get a feeling in what areas people are very interested in. Gambling will be in Ambulation and it will very likely make the first release since it¦s pretty important. Pink Dread has been hijacked

B1FF	Posted - 2008.07.31 17:21:00 - [199] Originally by: Ruze "They have not mentioned such a thing." Really? Because Lui (post 162) and Robrina (post 195) claim CCP has. Originally by: CCP Eris Many questions go into such details that there simply is no answer for them at this stage, and again I don't want to tell everything already about Ambulation. Thank you for the answers. A simple: "I can't answer that", "We haven't finalized the feature list.", or "We don't know." goes much further. It's communication. Editing parts of a question out is deception.

CCP Eris Discordia	Posted - 2008.07.31 17:28:00 - [200] Nah it¦s forumwhoring level 1 as it was taught 4 years ago. Old school in tha house! Pink Dread has been hijacked


Ruze Amarr No Applicable Corporation	Posted - 2008.07.31 17:33:00 - [201] Edited by: Ruze on 31/07/2008 17:33:44 Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia Nah it¦s forumwhoring level 1 as it was taught 4 years ago. Old school in tha house! Heheheh ... Thanks again, Eris. We really appreciate this, and I personally will try not to make any further inflammatory statements. Some of us get pretty hot and bothered thinking about ambulation, and I wouldn't doubt if our comments got annoying for someone working so hard to bring it to life. Hot and bothered? I really said that? Hmm, time to head back to the psychiatrist, me thinks ;?j "The greatest offense is no defense."
Lithalnas Amarr Headcrabs	Posted - 2008.07.31 19:09:00 - [202] Can avatar be changed? IE Uniforms showing up on Ambulation avatars and ingame avatars? the map as seen way back on 10ton hammer, do we really have a board room with a drawable map? (i know exactly what i would draw first) ------------- fixed for greater eve content
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong	Posted - 2008.07.31 20:07:00 - [203] Edited by: MotherMoon on 31/07/2008 20:12:45 in fact Biff is the new eris and from now on will answer players questions. also biff watch the fanfest videos on amubulation, you know the hour long one? they state the tactical map is one of the most important features they are working on. Originally by: Dapanman1 Terrible idea, you're an idiot
Robrina Brun The Blueshift Cartel THORN Alliance	Posted - 2008.07.31 20:19:00 - [204] Edited by: Robrina Brun on 31/07/2008 20:24:07 Originally by: Lithalnas Can avatar be changed? IE Uniforms showing up on Ambulation avatars and ingame avatars? When the expansion comes out, you will be required to change your 'avatar portrait' to a 'full-body avatar.' As part of that, I assume the ingame and forum avatar will update to some degree as well. It has also been stated in several of the articles that changing your character's appearance will be a simple procedure, but that it might cost you some isk to do so. :) Quote: the map as seen way back on 10ton hammer, do we really have a board room with a drawable map? (i know exactly what i would draw first) A puppy right? I'd draw a puppy and call it Canis Minor... oh wai- That map is a tactical map. You may have seen it mentioned in this thread a couple times. There is more information here. Not sure if it will be made for 'drawing' but, us players are inventive.
Xevan Templar 7th Batavian Squadron	Posted - 2008.07.31 20:36:00 - [205] Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia 3) I don¦t want to answer it and be remembered of the answer in 5 years to come from now. Now there there, I will not gonna scream 5 years in a row 'I want my Gallente Navy federation uniform' I do however gonna try to put up a tattoo shop, however I think it was part of the Gallente plastic surgical store, but I could be mistaken.
Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.31 20:45:00 - [206] Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia Lots o' stuff in pink Thanks heaps, Eris - you have the patience of a saint :) ---------------- Ambulation Answers
Robrina Brun The Blueshift Cartel THORN Alliance	Posted - 2008.07.31 21:16:00 - [207] I don't know if this has been asked before. If so, I apologize. Is Mind Clash one of the minigames being considered for future release?
Stitcher Caldari Duty.	Posted - 2008.07.31 22:42:00 - [208] okay, my question... Please could you give us an idea of about how many individual items of clothing and how many custom objects for shops, bars, casinos etc. will be available on release? - Lt. Verin "Stitcher" Tarn-Hakatain.
Bigeasy Caldari Ad Astra Vexillum Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.01 01:28:00 - [209] My question is this... Will the price to own stores be reasonable. By reasonable i mean this; I bought a Raven class battleship the other day for about 73 Million(good deal huh?). Now that 73 million bought be a massive ship of war with room for over 6000 crew members. Im hoping that to rent a room in a station will not be astronomically expensive. If a personal battleship cost 90 million, a store should be in the 100000isk price range. Now im no roleplayer, in fact if i caught myself speaking in brackets i'd have to kick my own ass, but to me these new features should be in proportion to ship prices and true to the game. I mean should a bar cost you as much as a battleship, i think not. Im worried that owning a bar or store is something that only the mega rich can do. Let them hate, so long as they fear-Caligula
soldieroffortune 258	Posted - 2008.08.01 02:08:00 - [210] hey, i just watched the ben mathis video again, and at about 8:00-12:00 it shows Amarr Stargate Highway, and Caldari Stargate Highway ect, but i have NEVER seen those stargate models, are those going to be the new ones in ambulation, or are those the models you see when you do premium graphics (i have done premium graphics, but i cant keep it on, because i need a bit more memory on my computer) so are those going to be the new stargate models? or do those already exist?

RhajKa	Posted - 2008.08.01 03:30:00 - [211] Quote: "My question is this... Will the price to own stores be reasonable. By reasonable i mean this; I bought a Raven class battleship the other day for about 73 Million(good deal huh?). Now that 73 million bought be a massive ship of war with room for over 6000 crew members. Im hoping that to rent a room in a station will not be astronomically expensive. If a personal battleship cost 90 million, a store should be in the 100000isk price range. Now im no roleplayer, in fact if i caught myself speaking in brackets i'd have to kick my own ass, but to me these new features should be in proportion to ship prices and true to the game. I mean should a bar cost you as much as a battleship, i think not. Im worried that owning a bar or store is something that only the mega rich can do." Interesting points above but my take on it is to run a bar for the most important 'demigods' in the galaxy - that would be expensive - think of the top clubs etc in the major capital cities of our own world - you are not dealing with the riffraff but serving the most powerful people in the galaxy - that is an exclusive clientelle and so would come at a premium price (like running a bar here on earth which just has the world leaders/royal families, and CEO's like Bill Gates etc hanging out there.....) The same goes for HQ rooms/conference rooms etc - you will be renting the most important 'pent house' suits in the system and they should come at a premium price - like the top firms pay through the nose to have offices in London, NY etc.......... All other communication can be thought of as being taken place on board ship, in your own quarters or in smaller offices in lower decks, not 'gaphically' simulated in the game......... Just some thoughts....... Rahj Ka
Nova Fox Gallente Novafox Shipyards	Posted - 2008.08.01 04:50:00 - [212] Will the Neocom (wallet, communications, and anything on the left side menu?) still be functional inside the station, would we need to find terminals to access it or would our pod pilot implants take care of that? Next Question, can we train a new skill book or implant while in the station or do we have to 'enter dock' this also leads to the question would players have a small 'personal' inventory (cargo expander pants for additional .5m3 cargo space)? Would there be any modules on the shipside of eve that would get a phsyical appearance in ambulation? I would love to see how big a 425mm railgun is in comparison to a person or the ammo you shove into it. Could be used to decorate some shops (the smaller stuff, I doubt a shop would be big enough to have a xl megablaster inside of it) Would pictures or information pages could be used like framed pictures in shops to show off something? Like the Icon Picture of a thorax displayed in your store, and another frame containing its stats/description. Also what sort of things players can get to label in their store, Like neon letting for thier store or a regular name with a back light in it or the sort? New Ship Idea: Tender Supply Ship, The Logistics Sister
Eran Laude Gallente Federal Defence Union	Posted - 2008.08.01 05:52:00 - [213] Another couple of questions for Eris: Will hangar bays be communal, corporate or personal instances? The original TenTonHammer ambulation video shows a Zealot undocking from a particularly large Amarrian station of an as-yet-unseen design with an entrance. Are there plans to implement these larger stations in game? In relation to the last question, do we manually pilot our ships out from dock through a navigable station or is it a simple animation or black screen to prevent crashing into walls and silly block-play in station docking halls? Will we be able to visit any ship in dock, or just our own or corpmates [assuming that from the original ambu video]?
Sloppy Podfarts	Posted - 2008.08.01 15:03:00 - [214] .
Troyd23	Posted - 2008.08.02 05:51:00 - [215] Edited by: Troyd23 on 02/08/2008 05:50:52 OP - Thank you! :D
Lui Kai Better Than You	Posted - 2008.08.02 05:52:00 - [216] Originally by: Troyd23 Edited by: Troyd23 on 02/08/2008 05:50:52 OP - Thank you! :D Welcome :) ---------------- Ambulation Answers
Helen Baque Gallente Federal Defence Union	Posted - 2008.08.02 21:38:00 - [217] Originally by: Nova Fox cargo expander pants for additional .5m3 cargo space And I was there on that historic day when the question, "Do these cargo expander pants make me look fat?", entered the EVE Universe.
DeadRow Mercenary Forces	Posted - 2008.08.03 22:27:00 - [218] This may have been answered already, forgive me if it has (I did check the first post to see if I could find something related to my question). How will it work exactly, would I have to be in the same station as a person I would want to meet? At the moment you can have the bar 'located' in some far away system and still be 'in' it, which is a very nice convience for those who either can't move to where the bar, appartment, etc is located. Quote: Iz in ur base, implanting ur dudes
RhajKa	Posted - 2008.08.04 01:29:00 - [219] Sorry if this has been asked before (I have tried checking different pages and can't see it anywhere) but will you be able to walk around in a POS? - if the answer is yes do the owning players get to design teh layout in anyway? Cheers Rhaj Ka
Lui Kai Better Than You	Posted - 2008.08.04 01:36:00 - [220] Originally by: RhajKa Sorry if this has been asked before (I have tried checking different pages and can't see it anywhere) but will you be able to walk around in a POS? - if the answer is yes do the owning players get to design teh layout in anyway? Cheers Rhaj Ka This hasn't been said yes or no specifically, but as you can't dock at a POS I can't imagine how you'd be able to walk around in it, unless they significantly change the way POS work. ---------------- Ambulation Answers

RhajKa	Posted - 2008.08.04 11:32:00 - [221] Originally by: Lui Kai Originally by: RhajKa Sorry if this has been asked before (I have tried checking different pages and can't see it anywhere) but will you be able to walk around in a POS? - if the answer is yes do the owning players get to design teh layout in anyway? Cheers Rhaj Ka This hasn't been said yes or no specifically, but as you can't dock at a POS I can't imagine how you'd be able to walk around in it, unless they significantly change the way POS work. Thanks for the answer Rhaj Ka
Berendas	Posted - 2008.08.04 17:54:00 - [222] Is there a definite answer as to the inclusion of minigames in stations? I didn't have the time to read most of the thread som I'm not sure if it was mentioned.
Lui Kai Better Than You	Posted - 2008.08.04 19:12:00 - [223] Originally by: Berendas Is there a definite answer as to the inclusion of minigames in stations? I didn't have the time to read most of the thread som I'm not sure if it was mentioned. They haven't confirmed or denied that they'll be in the first release, but they've confirmed they want them in. Link is in the first post of the thread. ---------------- Ambulation Answers
Kransthow Victory Not Vengeance Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2008.08.05 06:15:00 - [224] I am not sure if this has aleady been asked but oh well. The devs said that corporations would have small coporate halls, will these be set size or can you buy/rent a bigger hall/facility. And will you be able to have a bigger corp halls/facilitys in 0.0 stations than you would find in empire. (or at least, at less expense) My alt is "Is Forporn"
Lui Kai Better Than You	Posted - 2008.08.05 07:12:00 - [225] Originally by: Kransthow I am not sure if this has aleady been asked but oh well. The devs said that corporations would have small coporate halls, will these be set size or can you buy/rent a bigger hall/facility. And will you be able to have a bigger corp halls/facilitys in 0.0 stations than you would find in empire. (or at least, at less expense) As far as bigger ones, they've said you'll be able to rent space in a station and control who has access to it - so setting access to corp only would achieve what you're asking for. As for whether or not the spaces will be bigger or cheaper in outposts as opposed to NPC stations, they haven't said. If I had to guess, I'd say the outpost holder will set prices for that kind of thing, as they do now for offices. ---------------- Ambulation Answers
Kuolematon Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United	Posted - 2008.08.05 11:01:00 - [226] I was wondering if its already answered but I need to know if I can make my ingame char to have impressive manboobs? "The Amarr are the tanking and ganking floating rods of ~~gold~~crap"
Eran Laude Gallente Federal Defence Union	Posted - 2008.08.05 18:29:00 - [227] Originally by: Kuolematon I was wondering if its already answered but I need to know if I can make my ingame char to have impressive manboobs? Yes, several ambulation videos including the aforementioned Fanfest 2007 video and the NYCC 2008 demo demonstrate that you can range from very thin through to obese, with you gait and walk changing with your size.
krelak	Posted - 2008.08.07 20:17:00 - [228] Edited by: krelak on 07/08/2008 20:18:56 They've mentioned that we'll be able to walk around in our ships. (cheers!) Does this mean that we will also finally have a bridge view? (stupid filter won't let me say ****pit lol) Personally I find a bridge view with radar and other instrumentation much more immersing than watching a 3rd person view of my ship. It would be nice if they had both views as I'm sure there are many that prefer the 3rd person view.
Balrokenx Caldari ANZAC ALLIANCE Southern Cross Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.07 22:11:00 - [229] Why is ccp wasting money on this shit, instead of fixing bugs/lag?
Eran Laude Gallente The Aduro Protocol	Posted - 2008.08.07 22:15:00 - [230] Originally by: Balrokenx Why is ccp wasting money on this shit, instead of fixing bugs/lag? 0/10

rValdez5987 Amarr 32nd Amarrian Imperial Navy Regiment.	Posted - 2008.08.08 11:13:00 - [231] Originally by: Balrokenx Why is ccp wasting money on this shit, instead of fixing bugs/lag? Thats all you cry about, along with the other whiners, and you get the same answer every freaking time. Soon (tm) Its on the way, just like Ambulation, it takes time. No matter what you will always have lag however. Ive noticed the majority of lag is actually client side. Either that or my internet is better then yours... There was two occasions in which I got lag, and they were both my fault, in battles of 100-600 people in one system. In stain, left all brackets on, and effects on with 450 on grid shooting a pos. My video card couldn't take it so I lagged all to hell, really more of a fps drop. fighting in low sec, I FC'd a fleet using eve voice BEFORE they fixed the issues with having more then 30 people connected to it. It's funny but throughout my history in eve lag has only gotten lesser and lesser. Module lag? Who gets that...
soldieroffortune 258 Gallente Federal Defence Union	Posted - 2008.08.08 22:10:00 - [232] Originally by: soldieroffortune 258 hey, i just watched the ben mathis video again, and at about 8:00-12:00 it shows Amarr Stargate Highway, and Caldari Stargate Highway ect, but i have NEVER seen those stargate models, are those going to be the new ones in ambulation, or are those the models you see when you do premium graphics (i have done premium graphics, but i cant keep it on, because i need a bit more memory on my computer) so are those going to be the new stargate models? or do those already exist?
Todd Jaeger Body Count Inc. The Requiem	Posted - 2008.08.09 03:42:00 - [233] Originally by: soldieroffortune 258 Originally by: soldieroffortune 258 hey, i just watched the ben mathis video again, and at about 8:00-12:00 it shows Amarr Stargate Highway, and Caldari Stargate Highway ect, but i have NEVER seen those stargate models, are those going to be the new ones in ambulation, or are those the models you see when you do premium graphics (i have done premium graphics, but i cant keep it on, because i need a bit more memory on my computer) so are those going to be the new stargate models? or do those already exist? I havent seen them mate, and since I watched that video, I've been looking
Stitcher Caldari Duty.	Posted - 2008.08.09 18:09:00 - [234] Originally by: Todd Jaeger I havent seen them mate, and since I watched that video, I've been looking You must not have been looking really hard, then. They're near the start, where he's talking about the Trinity graphics update. - Lt. Verin "Stitcher" Tarn-Hakatain.
Todd Jaeger Body Count Inc. The Requiem	Posted - 2008.08.10 00:18:00 - [235] Originally by: Stitcher Edited by: Stitcher on 09/08/2008 21:42:34 Originally by: Todd Jaeger I havent seen them mate, and since I watched that video, I've been looking You must not have been looking really hard, then. They're near the start, where he's talking about the Trinity graphics update. EDIT: another question: Q: If we're allowed to own our own clubs, will we be able to designate some parts of the bar as invite-only "VIP Lounges". "If your name's not on the list, you're not getting in" sort of thing? Ive seen them on the video, havent seen them in game
PaddyPaddy Nihildarnik Gallente aurorae pacificas	Posted - 2008.08.10 08:38:00 - [236] Originally by: Stitcher Edited by: Stitcher on 09/08/2008 21:42:34 Originally by: Todd Jaeger I havent seen them mate, and since I watched that video, I've been looking You must not have been looking really hard, then. They're near the start, where he's talking about the Trinity graphics update. EDIT: another question: Q: If we're allowed to own our own clubs, will we be able to designate some parts of the bar as invite-only "VIP Lounges". "If your name's not on the list, you're not getting in" sort of thing? I predict... 32000 players online : 20000 of them in 40000 bars with 1 other alt playing table jumping games... Hopefully there is alot of the ol' sandbox mentality when it comes to customising bars otherwise id imagine it will unfortunately be a bit of a dud feature.
Stitcher Caldari Duty.	Posted - 2008.08.10 17:11:00 - [237] Edited by: Stitcher on 10/08/2008 17:11:49 Originally by: Todd Jaeger Ive seen them on the video, havent seen them in game Oh, right. sorry. Originally by: PaddyPaddy Nihildarnik I predict... 32000 players online : 20000 of them in 40000 bars with 1 other alt playing table jumping games... I predict... Not enough actual bar space in the whole game universe to allow that to happen. - Lt. Verin "Stitcher" Tarn-Hakatain.
The Economist Logically Consistent	Posted - 2008.08.10 19:04:00 - [238] Edited by: The Economist on 10/08/2008 19:07:41 Are there plans (either on release or afterward) to allow theft in ambulation, have any outlines of possible mechanics been discussed and if so could you elaborate a little? Cheers. CSM: This so called council got elected by 5.7% of the player base! (12678 votes) Who the hell are they going to represent???
Par'Gellen Tres Hombres	Posted - 2008.08.11 13:32:00 - [239] Originally by: The Economist Edited by: The Economist on 10/08/2008 19:07:41 Are there plans (either on release or afterward) to allow theft in ambulation, have any outlines of possible mechanics been discussed and if so could you elaborate a little? Cheers. Why not go all out and have public live puppy eating sessions too? Why does everyone want to be evil? I can't draw the connection in my mind between stealing and cool... --- To err is human. But it shouldn't be the company motto...
Sannah Ur	Posted - 2008.08.11 13:47:00 - [240] Originally by: Par'Gellen Why does everyone want to be evil? I can't draw the connection in my mind between stealing and cool... You should've seen all the topics on the AoC forums from people not only wanting to be able to kill pretty much anyone and anywhere, but also be able to loot every single item on their bodies. Heck, some of them wanted to be able to permakill people, just out of spite.

Cailais Amarr VITOC	Posted - 2008.08.11 19:58:00 - [241] Originally by: Balrokenx Why is ccp wasting money on this shit, instead of fixing bugs/lag? As I understand it, when you enter ambulation in a station then you (the player) are placed onto a seperate node/server. So, if youve got a system / node with 200 people in it and 190 of them dock to go ambulate somewhere then the real load on the 'in space' node will be just 10. So, ambulation might go some way to actually reducing lag. IIRC CCP are trying to do something similar with the market aswell. C. Originally by: Tarminic Your continued whining is somewhat diminished by your continued willingness to give your money to CCP.
Ruze Amarr No Applicable Corporation	Posted - 2008.08.11 20:21:00 - [242] Originally by: Cailais Originally by: Balrokenx Why is ccp wasting money on this shit, instead of fixing bugs/lag? As I understand it, when you enter ambulation in a station then you (the player) are placed onto a seperate node/server. So, if youve got a system / node with 200 people in it and 190 of them dock to go ambulate somewhere then the real load on the 'in space' node will be just 10. So, ambulation might go some way to actually reducing lag. IIRC CCP are trying to do something similar with the market aswell. C. As one reply pointed out, the real issue comes when those 190 that are docked and/or walking around in station rush for the elevator and all try to undock at the same time. That's when the guys in space will probably see a lag spike ... So you want security? That's perfectly alright. But you should be willing to trade freedom and profit for that security.
Nu Wa	Posted - 2008.08.11 20:37:00 - [243] Originally by: Ruze Originally by: Cailais Originally by: Balrokenx Why is ccp wasting money on this shit, instead of fixing bugs/lag? As I understand it, when you enter ambulation in a station then you (the player) are placed onto a seperate node/server. So, if youve got a system / node with 200 people in it and 190 of them dock to go ambulate somewhere then the real load on the 'in space' node will be just 10. So, ambulation might go some way to actually reducing lag. IIRC CCP are trying to do something similar with the market aswell. C. As one reply pointed out, the real issue comes when those 190 that are docked and/or walking around in station rush for the elevator and all try to undock at the same time. That's when the guys in space will probably see a lag spike ... Maybe have a queue for undocking, so people trickle out of station. But this will probably have an effect on some pvp tactics.
Millur Minmatar	Posted - 2008.08.12 14:38:00 - [244] Originally by: Cailais As I understand it, when you enter ambulation in a station then you (the player) are placed onto a seperate node/server. So, if youve got a system / node with 200 people in it and 190 of them dock to go ambulate somewhere then the real load on the 'in space' node will be just 10. That sounds great! Lets hope it works coz sometimes the lagg is a bit... disturbing Cant wait to get drunk as hell in bars when minings just doesn't do it Quote: How do you kill that witch has no life?
Korizan Oort Cloud Industries Ultionis Quietus	Posted - 2008.08.12 17:45:00 - [245] Could you please look @ adding the following options as part of gambling. 1. - The ability to bet anything you own in the station you are playing at. (prevents people from betting items in locations that are unattainable to the winner) That means a system to bet; ships / bpo's / bpc's / mods / isk / you name it. 2. - A gambling tournament setup would also be nice.
Xevan Templar 7th Batavian Squadron	Posted - 2008.08.12 19:06:00 - [246] Originally by: The Economist Edited by: The Economist on 10/08/2008 19:07:41 Are there plans (either on release or afterward) to allow theft in ambulation, have any outlines of possible mechanics been discussed and if so could you elaborate a little? Cheers. The WoW Rogue speaks! And no you can't play Undead aka forsakken either. On the other hand I would love to see though how the Station Concord MP squad ****s you up all over the place, then blows up the ship you got docked there, and then tear out your implants and shoots you in the head. Hey it's WoW with guns! Sounds great eh?
Dr Clay	Posted - 2008.08.12 21:35:00 - [247] Let me know when it's coming out so I can stock up on minerals to accommodate all the production to support new players. Invest in trit now! Lowest it's been in months!
c4 t	Posted - 2008.08.13 15:43:00 - [248] i heard you will be able to gamble in ambulation, is texas holdem going to be included? please include holdem. ____________________________________________________________________ mostly harmless
Haradgrim Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION	Posted - 2008.08.13 18:04:00 - [249] I just want to be able to put on my wizard hat and cloak! -- Originally by: CCP Oveur ...every forum whine feels like a baby pony is getting killed
Eran Laude Gallente The Aduro Protocol	Posted - 2008.08.14 08:31:00 - [250] Originally by: c4 t i heard you will be able to gamble in ambulation, is texas holdem going to be included? please include holdem. I heard one of the devs mention that Hold'em will be in there . Can't find the linky but being a very popular game I'm sure it will make it in.

Neth'Rae Gallente Decorum Inc Tygris Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.14 09:58:00 - [251] Originally by: Eran Laude Edited by: Eran Laude on 14/08/2008 08:54:39 Edited by: Eran Laude on 14/08/2008 08:54:20 Originally by: c4 t i heard you will be able to gamble in ambulation, is texas holdem going to be included? please include holdem. I heard one of the devs mention that Hold'em will be in there . Can't find the linky but being a very popular game I'm sure it will make it in. EDIT: Found this video on EVE China. It's in English and is some 289.0MB big, but being a Chinese server it's going to take a while to dl. I'm nearly done downloading it now and I'll post about it in a bit. Don't click the picture, the link is wrong, but click the button in chinese next to it. http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0808/ChinaJoy_WIS_presentation_1.wmv Request signatures at EVE-GFX
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong	Posted - 2008.08.14 12:26:00 - [252] damn I fell asleep. http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/mothermoon/ChinaJoy_WIS_presentation_1.wmv Originally by: Dapanman1 Terrible idea, you're an idiot
Neth'Rae Gallente Decorum Inc Tygris Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.14 13:43:00 - [253] Originally by: MotherMoon damn I fell asleep. http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/mothermoon/ChinaJoy_WIS_presentation_1.wmv lol Request signatures at EVE-GFX
Callib Gor'Karrithe Minmatar	Posted - 2008.08.14 17:34:00 - [254] Originally by: Nu Wa Maybe have a queue for undocking, so people trickle out of station. But this will probably have an effect on some pvp tactics. One way to look at it, though: Wouldn't this sort of be the expected mechanic? I mean... maybe I'm wrong, but wouldn't it be kind of silly to think that the stations have an infinite number of facilities for putting a capsuleer back into their pod? I mean... you've to to strap 'em in, check to make sure they're seated properly, then fill the pod with pod goop and seal it up... then insert it into the ship. Hardly a five second process if you ask me. That being said, with only a limitted number of "re-insertion" facilities in the station, it would be impossible for a large group (ie. 190) to suddenly be back in their ships. Following storyline information, you've basically got the option to enforce a staggered disembarkation through simply saying, "This is how it would logically work." Getting into a pod isn't at all meant to be like hopping in a car and turning your keys in the ignition.
sableye principle of motion Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.08.15 05:38:00 - [255] Originally by: Callib Gor'Karrithe Originally by: Nu Wa Maybe have a queue for undocking, so people trickle out of station. But this will probably have an effect on some pvp tactics. One way to look at it, though: Wouldn't this sort of be the expected mechanic? I mean... maybe I'm wrong, but wouldn't it be kind of silly to think that the stations have an infinite number of facilities for putting a capsuleer back into their pod? I mean... you've to to strap 'em in, check to make sure they're seated properly, then fill the pod with pod goop and seal it up... then insert it into the ship. Hardly a five second process if you ask me. That being said, with only a limitted number of "re-insertion" facilities in the station, it would be impossible for a large group (ie. 190) to suddenly be back in their ships. Following storyline information, you've basically got the option to enforce a staggered disembarkation through simply saying, "This is how it would logically work." Getting into a pod isn't at all meant to be like hopping in a car and turning your keys in the ignition. from reading back story your ship has its own systems for putting you in pod I'm fairly sure its not always ejected everytime you leave ship as while ship is out in space you can get out of pod and make love to your crew. Join The Fight With Promo Today View The North Star!
Kavin Alavandar The Hidden Court	Posted - 2008.08.15 06:53:00 - [256] Edited by: Kavin Alavandar on 15/08/2008 06:53:49 Originally by: Neth'Rae http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0808/ChinaJoy_WIS_presentation_1.wmv The fat-gaining demonstration really sneaks up on you. It's like he has a 1200 gc/s metabolism and is having olive oil injected directly into his stomach at about two cups per second. Truly startled me. Anyway, I'm loving the Achura clothing and what I'm assuming at 12:00 is Intaki clothing. __________________________________________________ 'The illiterate of this century are not those who cannot read and write; but those who cannot learn, unlearn, and relearn.'
quickshot89 Caldari	Posted - 2008.08.15 13:16:00 - [257] you know, if they follow what the novel says, it takes abit time to get in and out of a pod. as the pod has to be removed from the ship, then cracked open, drained, and then your unplugged a seperate node would help reduce lag for those wanting to play outside the pod, jita would still be laggy thou
Neth'Rae Gallente Decorum Inc Tygris Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.15 13:50:00 - [258] Originally by: Kavin Alavandar Edited by: Kavin Alavandar on 15/08/2008 07:17:51 My foremost question has to be: When you speak of corporation uniforms, are you referring to more than just placing the corporation's insignia on a uniform that all corporations share? That is, is designing the uniform somewhat like designing the insignia, in that it is composed of multiple selectable parts and colours? In the ChinaJoy vid Eris says that clothes can be customized to a certain extend, different materials and colors can be swapped but it has all been decided by the Artist, which specific colors and textures etc. All to avoid Goons in Pink jumpsuits bumping people in person :P Dey see me trollin, dey hatin, moddin they tryin to catch me postin dirty..
Niccolado Starwalker Shadow Templars	Posted - 2008.08.15 23:51:00 - [259] I wonder, is the engine to Ambulation made by EVE Onlines dev crew or by WoD dev crew, then shaped into EVE setting by EVEs dev crew? Anyone knows? Originally by: Dianabolic Your tears are absolutely divine, like a fine fine wine, rolling down your cheeks until they flow down the river of LOL
Hi Lo Faulty Solutions	Posted - 2008.08.16 00:31:00 - [260] What's with all the dead links? eve-search.com at a lower priority than bounty posting? Karl Kopalnia > omg Hi Lo is the name I use for all my gaming characters for 15 years--you're the one that took it :*(

Binarii	Posted - 2008.08.16 07:19:00 - [261] Has walking inside ships ever been talked about?
Silver Night Caldari Naqam Exalted.	Posted - 2008.08.16 07:55:00 - [262] Originally by: Binarii Has walking inside ships ever been talked about? Yeah. They have mentioned that it is planned IIRC. Captain's quarters at least, and then some stuff about other parts of the ship, though I dunno if that is just walking a specific route to the exit or what. I don't imagine they will fill in an entire ship worth of space for each ship of course, since that would be something like putting 3-4 Manhattan sized areas into 3-D for something like a Titan, and far from non-trivial for smaller ships as well. Very small ships you wouldn't think it would be a problem though. A frig is only about (large) airliner sized. -------------- The Clown Man. GLS Mr. State Caldari Patriot. Sansha's Nation Supporter
Malcanis We are Legend eXceed.	Posted - 2008.08.16 10:24:00 - [263] Originally by: Par'Gellen Originally by: The Economist Edited by: The Economist on 10/08/2008 19:07:41 Are there plans (either on release or afterward) to allow theft in ambulation, have any outlines of possible mechanics been discussed and if so could you elaborate a little? Cheers. Why not go all out and have public live puppy eating sessions too? Why does everyone want to be evil? I can't draw the connection in my mind between stealing and cool... Hey, I don't want to kill you and take your stuff in ambulation. I just want to kill you and wear your face. Does that make me so very "evil"? I think not. CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
Lui Kai Better Than You	Posted - 2008.08.16 14:03:00 - [264] Originally by: Hi Lo What's with all the dead links? eve-search.com at a lower priority than bounty posting? Just checked them all - working for me. ---------------- Ambulation Answers
Laae Aenus Minmatar	Posted - 2008.08.16 23:58:00 - [265] http://www.eve-online.com/background/potw/feb01.asp Mind Clash, can we have it?
Paramite Pies	Posted - 2008.08.17 01:49:00 - [266] Originally by: Sannah Ur Originally by: Par'Gellen Why does everyone want to be evil? I can't draw the connection in my mind between stealing and cool... You should've seen all the topics on the AoC forums from people not only wanting to be able to kill pretty much anyone and anywhere, but also be able to loot every single item on their bodies. Heck, some of them wanted to be able to permakill people, just out of spite. It's the beginning of Dot Hack, I tell you! By the way, lovely thread!
zekama	Posted - 2008.08.17 04:47:00 - [267] since technically you learn for your pod because it is hard wired into you if you gat out of your pod will you stop training that skill
Faraelle Brightman Gallente Placid Reborn	Posted - 2008.08.17 05:42:00 - [268] Edited by: Faraelle Brightman on 17/08/2008 05:44:46 Edited by: Faraelle Brightman on 17/08/2008 05:42:48 Originally by: zekama since technically you learn for your pod because it is hard wired into you if you gat out of your pod will you stop training that skill The novel bad a character who had been podded with skill loss retraining it outside the pod. If it used to be pod only they changed it. Q: I know live outside viewing is a no, but can we please have big observation windows or holograms with a selection of static (but local) views to choose from? Even at a premium cost? I want Ten-forward, danger! Also, how about telepresence? To appear in a place holography without being on the same station? Would only need a shades for the character model and the comms Code...
Xevan Templar 7th Batavian Squadron	Posted - 2008.08.17 13:45:00 - [269] Edited by: Xevan Templar on 17/08/2008 13:48:48 Originally by: Faraelle Brightman Q: I know live outside viewing is a no, but can we please have big observation windows or holograms with a selection of static (but local) views to choose from? Second that. There will be no Real Time looking out windows as stated in the fanfest 2007 video, but a seperate view of the system might be possible. It would only depend on how much it will take to implement windows and said local space view. If the space-sphere pic causes to much lag in the stations it will probably be a no go. However a connection between the space station and the space surrounding it, even if it's on seperated servers, will give at least 'the feeling' you're still in the big EVE universe.
Black Phlanx Caldari Kingfisher Industries	Posted - 2008.08.17 17:18:00 - [270] Edited by: Black Phlanx on 17/08/2008 17:20:03 All they'd have to do is render ships orbiting the station. It wouldn't be real-time outside the station, but it'd atleast make it look like there is activity going on outside, especially if the station is going to be it's own seperate entity on a server. I'd atleast like to have a viewport in my quarters.... Does anyone know if there is "high stakes" gambling? I really don't wish to sit at a video poker machine to win pots of 1,000,000 iskies as the top pot. Id like to be able to make starting bets at 1 million isk and up. Maybe have machines at different bet levels to accomidate for newwer players that cannot afford to just throw away 1 million at a time.

Dr Axler The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.	Posted - 2008.08.18 09:22:00 - [271] can we have separate video settings for ambulation and eve. cause i don`t play eve on max settings (cause of pvp) but i would like to enjoy ambulation on the maximum graphics, and i am sure there are others who think the same
Harisdrop Gallente Fat J Elitist Cowards	Posted - 2008.08.18 17:16:00 - [272] After playing 5 years, I dont care about ten forward or seeing local. I want interaction with market orders. And consoles that give me greater SQL market and contract reach. Have skills touch the character and let them be as important to the character as space is too pod. I remember where you could see market orders by system on the map. the History was not just the oders sold but the outstanding orders both in buy and sell. I know this was 2004 when I was a tycoon but it made it a true capital market. When courrier missions mattered.
emanno	Posted - 2008.08.20 02:21:00 - [273] is there any set release date or area of time
Detric Jux	Posted - 2008.08.20 06:39:00 - [274] For science and industry geeks as many of us are, will there be a way in ambulation to say view our manufacturing process, i.e. a assembly line (especially workers building a ship with welders on the hull and the like), research lab with a super computer going stuff like that. Also owning stuff being a main point of the ambulation I'd like to see a warehouse with my stuff. Even if most of its in shipping containers, Maybe have a storage room for smaller items that i can see the actual non packaged item. And last but not least I'd like to see stuff being loaded onto my ship like putting shipping containers into my transport or a size equivalent packed ship being moved into place.
Deviana Sevidon Gallente Panta-Rhei United Front Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.20 13:03:00 - [275] I would like to know if we are able to see the size of our character, versus our docked ship and even able to manually walk toward the ship across a boarding ramp. Like the last scene of the old Ambulation Video.
The Wounded Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2008.08.20 13:59:00 - [276] Edited by: The Wounded on 20/08/2008 14:00:23 I wanna see how we get outside the POD after docking. And isnt that like a pod breach which would insta fire the cloning process
yosef kaldhu Sarz'na Khumatari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2008.08.20 15:33:00 - [277] Originally by: Detric Jux For science and industry geeks as many of us are, will there be a way in ambulation to say view our manufacturing process, i.e. a assembly line (especially workers building a ship with welders on the hull and the like), research lab with a super computer going stuff like that. Also owning stuff being a main point of the ambulation I'd like to see a warehouse with my stuff. Even if most of its in shipping containers, Maybe have a storage room for smaller items that i can see the actual non packaged item. And last but not least I'd like to see stuff being loaded onto my ship like putting shipping containers into my transport or a size equivalent packed ship being moved into place. i would like to see this aswell would be sweet espesh the manufacturing line and labs and such
Ruze Amarr No Applicable Corporation	Posted - 2008.08.20 16:28:00 - [278] Originally by: The Wounded Edited by: The Wounded on 20/08/2008 14:00:23 I wanna see how we get outside the POD after docking. And isnt that like a pod breach which would insta fire the cloning process Um, you do know that your not stuck in a pod all the time, right? That stations have the facilities to unhook you from your pod? That most capsuleers have families and lives outside of their ship, and regularly sleep in a bed at night and drink coffee in the morning? It never surprises me how confused we all get with the backstory, or the things we convince ourselves are true.
Karii Ildarian Caldari Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2008.08.21 13:10:00 - [279] CCP should force all trading activities be performed in-station. Just imagine the lag reduction...
ISodah	Posted - 2008.08.21 14:29:00 - [280] Hi all. Where i can take table ITEM NAME - ITEM_ID Im interesting in fresh version. Tnx.

Shiner BockBeer Go Go Gadget ForumPostingAlt	Posted - 2008.08.22 15:25:00 - [281] I'm still bummed about the no pregnancy thing. :/ Support Pregnant Ambulation!
Preliator Caldari Baire Scientific Technologies The Firm.	Posted - 2008.08.22 23:22:00 - [282] Originally by: Dr Axler can we have separate video settings for ambulation and eve. cause i don`t play eve on max settings (cause of pvp) but i would like to enjoy ambulation on the maximum graphics, and i am sure there are others who think the same This is a very valid point. In eve, most people may prefer function over looks, but there's no real reason for this in ambulation, so I'd like to know this too
Esna Pitoojee Amarr Heavily Utilized Mechanic Mayhem	Posted - 2008.08.24 03:34:00 - [283] I have a question regarding racial differences in the stations (yes, I did see the OP, but the link to the section on racial differences is dead, and I'm not sure my question would be covered anyway). Will there be differences in what can be placed in a station belonging to certain factions? For instance, will you be unable to place a bar in an Amarrian station because it's 'against the religion', or, for that matter, will any kind of Amarr Chapel be unplacable in Minmatar stations? ---------------------------------------------- Say "Amarr ships suk, lol." I dare you. My statments do not represent the opinions, views, or actions of my corp.
Faraelle Brightman Gallente Placid Reborn	Posted - 2008.08.25 03:50:00 - [284] Did you guys know CCP had an official Flickr stream with ambulation concept art on it? I didn't. http://www.flickr.com/photos/eveonline/ Not the exact same ones shown from the China video.
Laerise Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2008.08.25 11:04:00 - [285] I really like what I'm seeing in the Flickers
Lady Darksaber Gallente Prison Break Inc.	Posted - 2008.08.25 11:24:00 - [286] Has there been set a date for ambulation release date yet ...if not a date then a quarter ? next year ...a few weeks ...anyone heard something ? Thansk LD www.eve-icsc.com
Faraelle Brightman Gallente Placid Reborn	Posted - 2008.08.25 17:48:00 - [287] The general gist is "you'll see a lot of stuff and info at Fanfest", followed by a possible release at the end of 2008/early 2009.
Vandal X	Posted - 2008.08.26 22:20:00 - [288] Edited by: Vandal X on 26/08/2008 22:20:15 2008 would be nice.
Kage Getsu Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams	Posted - 2008.08.27 19:24:00 - [289] Will I be able to build a fort out of compressed ore blocks? _________________________________________________________
Todd Jaeger Body Count Inc. The Requiem	Posted - 2008.08.27 22:09:00 - [290] According to the new "teaser" video's on the front page, ambulation isnt coming in a hurry. The Winter Expantion in December is going to be all industrial hooraa. With that being the major winter expantion, I dont expect to see ambulation until 09'. Of course I may be talking out of my ass, who know's.

Atalius Vinelgo Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2008.08.28 21:56:00 - [291] Will you be able to walk around in your ship if it is large enough, say a maraudon or a carrier? Even a Titan?
Crimsonjade Amarr Secret Service	Posted - 2008.08.28 22:46:00 - [292] i did look thru 99% and didnt see this mentioned. but wondering if the station environment will be the same graphics they use in 1st person shooters. not the way it looks i guess. i just cant play those for very long before i feel ill. and kinda made me wonder :) kinda of a motion sickness thingy. weird as i fly, ride in small boats no sweat but a 1st person shooter can make me as queasy as hell

CCP Atropos C C P	Posted - 2008.08.28 23:33:00 - [293] Currently it's a third person view for navigation. Some things may require a first person perspective, such as viewing a minigame.

Crimsonjade Amarr Secret Service	Posted - 2008.08.29 02:18:00 - [294] Originally by: CCP Atropos Currently it's a third person view for navigation. Some things may require a first person perspective, such as viewing a minigame. long as exotic dancers don't equate to minigames ill suffer for a few :) Thanks
MuffinsRevenger EmpiresMod Arcane Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.29 16:47:00 - [295] Could we get a pair of screenshots of anything? :D

CCP Atropos C C P	Posted - 2008.08.29 21:28:00 - [296] Come to fanfest and revel in its awesomeness!

Evelgrivion Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.29 21:49:00 - [297] Edited by: Evelgrivion on 29/08/2008 21:51:27 Originally by: MuffinsRevenger Could we get a pair of screenshots of anything? :D First Screenshot of a player-made character in ambulation.
emanno	Posted - 2008.08.30 16:48:00 - [298] but i a, not allow to go to fanfest legally so you should tell me every thing here
Roy Batty68 Caldari Immortal Dead	Posted - 2008.09.01 07:59:00 - [299] *This is by far the most important question in regards to Ambulation asked to date!* Given that: - Caldari are primarily missile spamming flying bricks - There will be a speed nerf prior to Ambulation release - Minmatar seem to construct everything out of flakey, rusty metals - Minmatar ships can often out run the explosion velocity of missiles Will I... ...as a Caldari... ...be able to... ...purchase and wear those stylish sunglasses that have been the sole domain of the afforementioned flakey, rusty, speedy Minmatar types?
Faraelle Brightman Gallente Placid Reborn	Posted - 2008.09.01 16:32:00 - [300] Since the players are going to be manufacturing and selling the clothing I expect a lot of it will float on the free market, like the ships of other races do. There would probably be exceptions that require you to be part of a specific group however, in order to do things like military uniforms.

Kavin Alavandar Gallente The Hidden Court	Posted - 2008.09.02 04:31:00 - [301] Originally by: emanno but i a, not allow to go to fanfest legally so you should tell me every thing here I think you can rest assured that everything revealed at the fanfest will be reported here faster than a shoplifting streaker would be reported to the police.
Gracious NightAngel	Posted - 2008.09.02 05:47:00 - [302] Star Wars - Actually its a mirror of your needs! EMPIRE STRIKES BACK
Aruken Marr Gallente Hephaestus Technologies	Posted - 2008.09.02 12:05:00 - [303] Nice work on thread good base to see how ambulation's coming along. But i was wondering wether any knows/can direct me to information on the compatability of classic game with ambulation graphics. It would be shame if they were incompatible because it looks like id have to update my steam powered computer . If this is blatantly viewable please forgive my ignorance, it's been a long day
Dante Dastardly	Posted - 2008.09.02 13:44:00 - [304] Originally by: Aruken Marr Nice work on thread good base to see how ambulation's coming along. But i was wondering wether any knows/can direct me to information on the compatability of classic game with ambulation graphics. It would be shame if they were incompatible because it looks like id have to update my steam powered computer . If this is blatantly viewable please forgive my ignorance, it's been a long day AFAIK, Ambulation is going to use the Trinity engine. So if you can't run that now, good bet you won't be able run Ambulation. That's just an educated guess on my part though.
Ruze Amarr No Applicable Corporation	Posted - 2008.09.02 13:45:00 - [305] While I'm all for 'preserving the uniqueness' of the races, I sure as heck hope they don't impose craptastic false standards. Oh, you're Gallente? Sorry, but your restricted to Gallente-only clothing. Because ... your ... um ... Gallente ... and ... um ... somehow you can't wear clothing that other human beings can wear ... yeah ... Put the clothing on the market, and let the players choose. Sandbox it, don't go with unrealistic rules. Ruze Ashkor'Murkon Security File
Aruken Marr Gallente Hephaestus Technologies	Posted - 2008.09.02 14:19:00 - [306] Originally by: Dante Dastardly Originally by: Aruken Marr Nice work on thread good base to see how ambulation's coming along. But i was wondering wether any knows/can direct me to information on the compatability of classic game with ambulation graphics. It would be shame if they were incompatible because it looks like id have to update my steam powered computer . If this is blatantly viewable please forgive my ignorance, it's been a long day AFAIK, Ambulation is going to use the Trinity engine. So if you can't run that now, good bet you won't be able run Ambulation. That's just an educated guess on my part though. Ah thats what I suspected, thanks for the info. It's not too bad afterall, i can run trinity... just not as good as i can run classic
Ruze Amarr No Applicable Corporation	Posted - 2008.09.02 14:41:00 - [307] Originally by: Aruken Marr Originally by: Dante Dastardly Originally by: Aruken Marr Nice work on thread good base to see how ambulation's coming along. But i was wondering wether any knows/can direct me to information on the compatability of classic game with ambulation graphics. It would be shame if they were incompatible because it looks like id have to update my steam powered computer . If this is blatantly viewable please forgive my ignorance, it's been a long day AFAIK, Ambulation is going to use the Trinity engine. So if you can't run that now, good bet you won't be able run Ambulation. That's just an educated guess on my part though. Ah thats what I suspected, thanks for the info. It's not too bad afterall, i can run trinity... just not as good as i can run classic Lets also remember that 'performance' may not be as big an issue in Ambulation. Without combat and whatnot. Ruze Ashkor'Murkon Security File
Scoopnuts MkGee	Posted - 2008.09.02 18:36:00 - [308] Ya, but ambulation will be showing a hell of a lot more polys at any given time. Then you have the clothing physics, etc etc etc. Most battles in Eve take place in largely empty spaces away from high-poly structures.
emanno	Posted - 2008.09.02 20:30:00 - [309] now if you are in a large corp that have outpost in in 0.0 can you still get a bar in them?
Sidrat Flush Caldari Diversity 101	Posted - 2008.09.03 16:46:00 - [310] Originally by: Kavin Alavandar Originally by: emanno but i a, not allow to go to fanfest legally so you should tell me every thing here I think you can rest assured that everything revealed at the fanfest will be reported here faster than a shoplifting streaker would be reported to the police. Just how quickly is that by the way? Surely in a small shop it'll be a while because the staff and customers will be stunned into immobility. In a large store though there'll be such screaming of "Think of the Children" and wailing and crying from customers, staff and security guards that it might be at least more than a few minutes before anyone thinks about picking up the phone. The time frame could be longer than an hour if it's a fit bird doing the shoplifting in the nuddy, as long as she's clean and doesn't smell bad. I think that...what's the word?....needs more work to accurately reflect the nanosecond timeframe I think you're talking about. Maybe - Fanfest information will be put here faster than an Emo-nerf-bear can make it to these forums. And that my friends is very very fast indeed. Life is about memories the more the better. http://lifeisexperience.freeforums.org (because it's a small corp)

MuffinsRevenger EmpiresMod Arcane Alliance	Posted - 2008.09.03 19:21:00 - [311] Originally by: CCP Atropos Come to fanfest and revel in its awesomeness! To long! We require prtscrn!
Morgan Brykein Gallente Industrial Workers' Union	Posted - 2008.09.03 21:55:00 - [312] Wait, will there be like, shops on stations and housing and such?
Niccolado Starwalker Shadow Templars	Posted - 2008.09.03 23:23:00 - [313] Edited by: Niccolado Starwalker on 03/09/2008 23:23:18 Originally by: Morgan Brykein Wait, will there be like, shops on stations and housing and such? There will be corporation locations and captains quarters (private housing), yes. Shops I am not really sure about, but I can only hope! And by god sake, I hope its still "point and click" system they have for ambulating! WASD is so hopeless! Originally by: Dianabolic Your tears are absolutely divine, like a fine fine wine, rolling down your cheeks until they flow down the river of LOL
Morgan Brykein Gallente Industrial Workers' Union	Posted - 2008.09.04 00:52:00 - [314] Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker Edited by: Niccolado Starwalker on 03/09/2008 23:23:18 Originally by: Morgan Brykein Wait, will there be like, shops on stations and housing and such? There will be corporation locations and captains quarters (private housing), yes. Shops I am not really sure about, but I can only hope! And by god sake, I hope its still "point and click" system they have for ambulating! WASD is so hopeless! Yeah, less walking into walls that way.
Niccolado Starwalker Shadow Templars	Posted - 2008.09.04 07:47:00 - [315] Originally by: Morgan Brykein Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker Edited by: Niccolado Starwalker on 03/09/2008 23:23:18 Originally by: Morgan Brykein Wait, will there be like, shops on stations and housing and such? There will be corporation locations and captains quarters (private housing), yes. Shops I am not really sure about, but I can only hope! And by god sake, I hope its still "point and click" system they have for ambulating! WASD is so hopeless! Yeah, less walking into walls that way. WASD works for fast paced first person shooter game. Not for casual ambulation. And I have never had any problems controlling my character in P&C systems, but my hand always get numb from wasd. Besides, this game is and have always been P&C so it should stay that way. Originally by: Dianabolic Your tears are absolutely divine, like a fine fine wine, rolling down your cheeks until they flow down the river of LOL
fathitman Gallente Woopatang The Red Skull	Posted - 2008.09.04 11:48:00 - [316] Waling in Station = No more station camping ----------------------------
Lui Kai Better Than You	Posted - 2008.09.05 06:26:00 - [317] Originally by: Morgan Brykein Wait, will there be like, shops on stations and housing and such? Yes. Read the OP. ---------------- Ambulation Answers
Ruze Amarr No Applicable Corporation	Posted - 2008.09.05 14:11:00 - [318] Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker WASD works for fast paced first person shooter game. Not for casual ambulation. And I have never had any problems controlling my character in P&C systems, but my hand always get numb from wasd. Besides, this game is and have always been P&C so it should stay that way. I sincerely hope they allow BOTH forms. I'm fairly ambidextrous, and with EvE, my other hand is good for nothing except playing with myself. I don't get 'numb' using WASD. I rely on it in many other games, even to the point of getting specialized keyboards and Nostromo N52 keypads to do so. I've personally come to hate the point-and-click style, and it's mainly because of EvE Originally by: CCP Greyscale consciously deciding not to join a corp is pretty much deciding that you don't want to have fun
Commander Yassir Therapy. YTMND.	Posted - 2008.09.05 15:34:00 - [319] Edited by: Commander Yassir on 05/09/2008 15:36:18 Who do I have to kill to get this... really just give me a name.... I am serious Seriously-Am I not looking hard enough or is there no scheduled release time. Just sometime after fan fest right? I want this to come out so bad.... Edit-Seconding the the motion on both the P&C system and WASD
Niccolado Starwalker Shadow Templars	Posted - 2008.09.06 18:48:00 - [320] Originally by: Commander Yassir Edited by: Commander Yassir on 05/09/2008 15:36:18 Who do I have to kill to get this... really just give me a name.... I am serious Seriously-Am I not looking hard enough or is there no scheduled release time. Just sometime after fan fest right? I want this to come out so bad.... Edit-Seconding the the motion on both the P&C system and WASD From what I read in this article: Originally by: Stnhrmann at Leibzig 2008 [...] Come December we will be launching our second big release of the year. We donÆt have an official title yet, but the internal working title is æMidusÆ because it is to do with industry. Originally by: Stnhrmann at Leibzig 2008 about ambulation [...] Yes I can. We are working on it, and we even have a working prototypeà [At this point, Stnhrmann shows us some early builds of the feature on his computer, showing a fully represented avatar standing in a corridor, with all the standard user interface options. Early days yet, but it still looks impressive.] Other words, we have Industry expansion coming this winter, and ambulation is still a "prototype" in "its early days". So Junee 2009 earliest, possibly november 2009. If not for 2010... When it comes to controls: As long the P&C is fully featured and good working,I dont have anything against CCP adding WASD in addition. But WASD is a stupid stupid character control feature I have come to loathe for a long time! And when I was looking for a new game after SWG: NGE failed horribly in 2005 with changed controls to WASD!! i where looking for a new game that did not have this feature. Found it in EVE, and I want it to stay this way! FPS games sucks monkey b*s Originally by:** Dianabolic Your tears are absolutely divine, like a fine fine wine, rolling down your cheeks until they flow down the river of LOL

Nyphur Pillowsoft	Posted - 2008.09.07 08:49:00 - [321] Is this presentation accurate? Because he talks about having to find leather and dye and then craft your clothes, which is one of the most ******ed things I've ever read. I'm not even going to argue the point because I think the reasons that crafting clothes world-of-warcraft style doesn't fit with EVE are blindingly obvious. Someone please tell me they aren't making a leatherworking skill in EVE ¼_¼. Pillowsoft - Join the Pillowsoft Gallente Militia, get free ships and support.
Snasty	Posted - 2008.09.07 16:08:00 - [322] Originally by: Nyphur Is this presentation accurate? Because he talks about having to find leather and dye and then craft your clothes, which is one of the most ******ed things I've ever read. I'm not even going to argue the point because I think the reasons that crafting clothes world-of-warcraft style doesn't fit with EVE are blindingly obvious. Someone please tell me they aren't making a leatherworking skill in EVE ¼_¼. So long as I can make myself a top hat & tails, perhaps a monacle too that will be fine. I'd like to look dapper after all....
Cemko Gallente	Posted - 2008.09.08 05:44:00 - [323] we have an "earth&beyond" experience in hand, and that tells us, "walking and runing between selling and buyying goods and taking missions and producing items and other stuffs, become a great time vasting unneccesary process, which you can spend that time with beautiful chicks with honey poured lips. Cemko, The Looter of the endless dusts, creator of the best ships and guns, lonely explorer of the suns. Dont try, even think that open fire to him, you bad guys.
Xavieer Naidoo Oberon Incorporated Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.09.09 01:06:00 - [324] Edited by: Xavieer Naidoo on 09/09/2008 01:06:37 They said, that they are still deciding on how many stations will actually be "walkable". Is that correct ? Will there be a limited number of "ambulation" stations ? If that's the case - this is so fail. Some people would never get the chance to socialize with their corpmates.
zoolkhan Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr	Posted - 2008.09.09 09:31:00 - [325] Originally by: Roy Batty68 Will I... ...as a Caldari... ...be able to... ...purchase and wear those stylish sunglasses that have been the sole domain of the afforementioned flakey, rusty, speedy Minmatar types? NO. recruiting -forum
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong	Posted - 2008.09.09 11:59:00 - [326] Originally by: Evelgrivion Edited by: Evelgrivion on 29/08/2008 21:51:27 Originally by: MuffinsRevenger Could we get a pair of screenshots of anything? :D First Screenshot of a player-made character in ambulation. aww I hope we can kinda keep our looks
Von Kleist Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.09.10 13:04:00 - [327] What a waste.
Xevan Templar 7th Batavian Squadron	Posted - 2008.09.11 08:28:00 - [328] Either my internet UI is ****ed, or everything in the general forum just lost it's 'sticky'. /puzzeled
Joxxy	Posted - 2008.09.11 11:41:00 - [329] Will it be possoble to walk in stations in 0.0 sov. space ?
yncer	Posted - 2008.09.13 05:58:00 - [330] Hi every guys which is playing EVE,I am long-heartedly support the games of player.In the game i found many ISK-farming crop,and most of them in the crop are ISK farmer,they are also the robbers.It is unfair in the game. I know the crop's name and the alliance'name as well as all farmer's name. Now I must announce it in the EVE official website,I hoped that everybody can discuss and forward.thanks! I will send it several times a day, and hope more and more guys who loves EVE can see it. The following is the list what name of crop and alliance and role: NAME:kickbib, Date male,bain ll,students, airraid ,airplane123,bloodsucker66,gtyr , Sergey Ivanov , fudanzhong ,mike's sister ,Magnin , mike's boy , MajorX .kickbib ALLIANCE: SOLAR WING ALLIANCE:SHAOOW OF XXDEATHXX NAME: Registration , keizhu007,keizhu1, zhongkai01, zhongkai02 ,Hits the ore primarily, And so on.....Many many

yncer	Posted - 2008.09.13 06:00:00 - [331] Hi every guys which is playing EVE,I am long-heartedly support the games of player.In the game i found many ISK-farming crop,and most of them in the crop are ISK farmer,they are also the robbers.It is unfair in the game. I know the crop's name and the alliance'name as well as all farmer's name. Now I must announce it in the EVE official website,I hoped that everybody can discuss and forward.thanks! I will send it several times a day, and hope more and more guys who loves EVE can see it. The following is the list what name of crop and alliance and role: NAME:kickbib, Date male,bain ll,students, airraid ,airplane123,bloodsucker66,gtyr , Sergey Ivanov , fudanzhong ,mike's sister ,Magnin , mike's boy , MajorX .kickbib ALLIANCE: SOLAR WING ALLIANCE:SHAOOW OF XXDEATHXX NAME: Registration , keizhu007,keizhu1, zhongkai01, zhongkai02 ,Hits the ore primarily, And so on.....Many many
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong	Posted - 2008.09.14 09:25:00 - [332] Originally by: Joxxy Will it be possoble to walk in stations in 0.0 sov. space ? it better be.
Rachel Silverside Caldari K Directorate	Posted - 2008.09.14 11:29:00 - [333] Edited by: Rachel Silverside on 14/09/2008 11:29:45 has anyone thought that ambulation could be used as a way to make an ingame fanfest for people that dont have enough money or just cant go to iceland. because that would be awesome and subtitles cause my sound is screwed for some reason. -------------------- veritas vos liberate
Ruze Amarr No Applicable Corporation	Posted - 2008.09.14 13:01:00 - [334] Originally by: Rachel Silverside Edited by: Rachel Silverside on 14/09/2008 11:29:45 has anyone thought that ambulation could be used as a way to make an ingame fanfest for people that dont have enough money or just cant go to iceland. because that would be awesome and subtitles cause my sound is screwed for some reason. I would love that. Seriously awesome idea, Rachel. Originally by: CCP Greyscale consciously deciding not to join a corp is pretty much deciding that you don't want to have fun
Xevan Templar 7th Batavian Squadron	Posted - 2008.09.14 22:25:00 - [335] Originally by: Rachel Silverside Edited by: Rachel Silverside on 14/09/2008 11:29:45 has anyone thought that ambulation could be used as a way to make an ingame fanfest for people that dont have enough money or just cant go to iceland. because that would be awesome and subtitles cause my sound is screwed for some reason. Great idea, however I did see in the fanfest move that they want to put a maximum of players per station/area. To keep the lag in ambulation in check. I think it was 40 or 60 in one specific area. I myself have another question. Since it's almost certain you can have your own cafT or disco, will it be possible to have your own DJ? And could that cafT/disco get a music-channel, so all of EVE could pick their favorite DJ? Or 'skill train' your disco to a music station or whatever? (Probably with a maximum of channels). So you could see your favorite DJ in action and have dance party's or whatever.
The RAv3n Caldari An Eye For An Eye Digital Renegades	Posted - 2008.09.14 23:12:00 - [336] I'm wondering what the character creation is going to focus on. It is my general feeling that it will or should include stuff like shoulder width, muscle mass (to a point), torso to leg proportions, neck length and width, chest size (barrel chested or concave n' weak), arm length, and a bit of height adjustment. Some facial hair, chin type, and dimples I believe should also be included, not to mention the shape of someones muscles, as build varies in people. What always bugs me is the fact that in most games peoples builds are exactly the same with different faces. The women are as tall as the men (and therefore quite out of proportion), which is usually not so, and finally the fact that is mentioned in Snowcrash relating to the metaverse, it was the facial expressions and muscle movement that made the people seem real. This is interesting as it has finally come to the point that gmes are going to have to deal with this, and I want to personalize my character so it is an individual, not another clone with a tweaked face.
Heyte	Posted - 2008.09.16 02:34:00 - [337] Edited by: Heyte on 16/09/2008 02:37:55 Personally, I think avatars should be allowed to /dance with a funny animation specific to each bloodline (c'mon!). Of course, it could be that the avatar might only be able to dance in a disco room or perhaps have a time limit on how long they can dance for per hour (or both). If the avatar has continued to dance for a total of 3 minutes per hour (for each dance in between), then they might get an info message of 'no more /dance for joo!' or something humorous to that effect. I invite everyone in here to speculate on the possible dance that would involve each bloodline. :D Also: Smexy clothing and strip bars. xD
Detes cald Caldari	Posted - 2008.09.16 13:16:00 - [338] well that can come all in time :P ambulation lets see if firts work and then it cand be difficult :P
Faraelle Brightman Gallente Placid Reborn	Posted - 2008.09.16 16:14:00 - [339] This thread needs more Eris bait. Pink Cupcakes?
Elena Morin'staal Minmatar Tau Online Explorator Corp	Posted - 2008.09.17 13:30:00 - [340] Originally by: The RAv3n I'm wondering what the character creation is going to focus on. It is my general feeling that it will or should include stuff like shoulder width, muscle mass (to a point), torso to leg proportions, neck length and width, chest size (barrel chested or concave n' weak), arm length, and a bit of height adjustment. Some facial hair, chin type, and dimples I believe should also be included, not to mention the shape of someones muscles, as build varies in people. What always bugs me is the fact that in most games peoples builds are exactly the same with different faces. The women are as tall as the men (and therefore quite out of proportion), which is usually not so, and finally the fact that is mentioned in Snowcrash relating to the metaverse, it was the facial expressions and muscle movement that made the people seem real. This is interesting as it has finally come to the point that gmes are going to have to deal with this, and I want to personalize my character so it is an individual, not another clone with a tweaked face. Beast size? :P

AltBier Minmatar Freelance Unincorporated	Posted - 2008.09.19 10:30:00 - [341] The "Logoff, Ships" link in the OP is still a "reply-to" link.
Lui Kai Better Than You	Posted - 2008.09.19 18:32:00 - [342] Originally by: AltBier The "Logoff, Ships" link in the OP is still a "reply-to" link. Yeah, sorry for that. I'm out of characters to edit in, and any attempt at editing turns more links that way. ---------------- Ambulation Answers
AltBier Minmatar Freelance Unincorporated	Posted - 2008.09.19 21:59:00 - [343] Oh. Maybe a friendly moderator can help.
Severe Admin Blind Industries	Posted - 2008.09.22 08:36:00 - [344] game cant handle abulation doesnt work as it is. ccp is as usual ignoring the biggest problems while throwing in NEW features. At least their consistant.
D'Nurgle	Posted - 2008.09.23 14:31:00 - [345] Edited by: D''Nurgle on 23/09/2008 14:31:45 I think with the ambulation coming all the PVP aspect in the game will die indeed. Nowadays it is so difficult to get a fight and with the ambulation, people will spend more time inside stations (not that they are not now) than outside. A week ago we passed true 6 0.0 regions, spend 3-4 hours wondering around only to find out single ratters, or 20 people docked and this is not the first time. Official request: CCP please keep PVP alive!!! I will speak only for myself, but I am finding myself less and less willing to log in due to the lack of targets. Now lets all go and have a drink in the Serpentis night club remembering the old fun PVP days .
Constance Harme	Posted - 2008.09.25 06:04:00 - [346] Edited by: Constance Harme on 25/09/2008 06:04:56 Originally by: Severe Admin game cant handle abulation doesnt work as it is. ccp is as usual ignoring the biggest problems while throwing in NEW features. At least their consistant. Ambulation will run on a seperate server and will not adversely affect the rest of the game. Originally by: D'Nurgle I think with the ambulation coming all the PVP aspect in the game will die indeed. Nowadays it is so difficult to get a fight and with the ambulation, people will spend more time inside stations (not that they are not now) than outside. People who don't want to PvP stay in stations anyway and they'll do exactly that when ambulation is released, remember that all it really is is a fancy form of being docked.
Nai Weil Caldari Tupperware Party	Posted - 2008.09.26 08:28:00 - [347] Edited by: Nai Weil on 26/09/2008 08:30:58 Originally by: D'Nurgle Edited by: D''Nurgle on 23/09/2008 14:31:45 I think with the ambulation coming all the PVP aspect in the game will die indeed. Nowadays it is so difficult to get a fight and with the ambulation, people will spend more time inside stations (not that they are not now) than outside. A week ago we passed true 6 0.0 regions, spend 3-4 hours wondering around only to find out single ratters, or 20 people docked and this is not the first time. Official request: CCP please keep PVP alive!!! I will speak only for myself, but I am finding myself less and less willing to log in due to the lack of targets. There's nothing CCP can do regarding this - your targets are not programmed rats, they're living sentient people like you are. Your desire to kill them is matched by their desire not to be killed by you, and the only way they'll come out freely is if you don't go anywhere near them. Sitting in a station chatting beats having to buy a new ship or give a pirate the satisfaction of having fun at their expense. Pickings are less and less not because CCP has nerfed pirating in any way, it's because bears have learnt to be more vigilant, more careful, and can usually avoid pirates as long as their alert and watch local. That's what pirates tell noob bears after they've been killed, so why so upset that they're actually learning and managing to survive now? If pirates want good action, they should just go fight each other or wardec some corps willing to fight. Try not to bring such a huge numerical advantage and maybe some of the corps you dec will fight back. Of course, you risk losing the fight, but why else would the other side play?
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong	Posted - 2008.09.28 01:04:00 - [348] Originally by: Nai Weil Edited by: Nai Weil on 26/09/2008 08:30:58 Originally by: D'Nurgle Edited by: D''Nurgle on 23/09/2008 14:31:45 I think with the ambulation coming all the PVP aspect in the game will die indeed. Nowadays it is so difficult to get a fight and with the ambulation, people will spend more time inside stations (not that they are not now) than outside. A week ago we passed true 6 0.0 regions, spend 3-4 hours wondering around only to find out single ratters, or 20 people docked and this is not the first time. Official request: CCP please keep PVP alive!!! I will speak only for myself, but I am finding myself less and less willing to log in due to the lack of targets. There's nothing CCP can do regarding this - your targets are not programmed rats, they're living sentient people like you are. Your desire to kill them is matched by their desire not to be killed by you, and the only way they'll come out freely is if you don't go anywhere near them. Sitting in a station chatting beats having to buy a new ship or give a pirate the satisfaction of having fun at their expense. Pickings are less and less not because CCP has nerfed pirating in any way, it's because bears have learnt to be more vigilant, more careful, and can usually avoid pirates as long as their alert and watch local. That's what pirates tell noob bears after they've been killed, so why so upset that they're actually learning and managing to survive now? If pirates want good action, they should just go fight each other or wardec some corps willing to fight. Try not to bring such a huge numerical advantage and maybe some of the corps you dec will fight back. Of course, you risk losing the fight, but why else would the other side play? remove local!
Chris Liath Gallente Red Dwarf Mining Corporation space weaponry and trade	Posted - 2008.09.29 16:02:00 - [349] looks forward to ambulation like a 5 year old to christmas "Oh dear," says God, "I hadn't thought of that," and promptly vanishes in a puff of logic.
Bane Glorious GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.09.29 17:32:00 - [350] But will there be musical instruments?

Shaun Livingstone iMine Industries	Posted - 2008.09.30 16:44:00 - [351] Any (definite) answer yet regarding the possibility for people without premium gfx to get ambulation? Surely actual contant should be available to both iterations of the client?
Avernus Gallente Imperium Technologies	Posted - 2008.10.01 01:32:00 - [352] Originally by: Shaun Livingstone Any (definite) answer yet regarding the possibility for people without premium gfx to get ambulation? Surely actual contant should be available to both iterations of the client? Not sure if they are planning to do both, but I could understand if they went premium client only... think of the duplication of art assets for something so huge (and new). They would basically be looking at double the work it took to bring out the premium client for trinity. I'd have to wonder about the complications of character avatar creation that splits between two clients as well. A person creating an avatar on the classic client would be unsure how their premium client avatar would actually appear to others (to some degree at least). Out of curiousity, anyone have any idea on the percentage of players using the premium client?

CCP Atropos C C P	Posted - 2008.10.01 22:21:00 - [353] Pretty much the above. When Trinity was released, it was an update and expansion on all the ships, stations, etc that were in game at that time. Ambulation is all new content and given the visual quality that we're aiming for, I don't see how feasible having Classic content is. Saying that, nothing is set in stone, but hopefully, once Fanfest has been and gone, and there are plenty of pictures Ambulation, you'll understand better what we're trying to achieve

W3370Pi4 Caldari	Posted - 2008.10.01 23:51:00 - [354] Originally by: CCP Atropos Pretty much the above. When Trinity was released, it was an update and expansion on all the ships, stations, etc that were in game at that time. Ambulation is all new content and given the visual quality that we're aiming for, I don't see how feasible having Classic content is. Saying that, nothing is set in stone, but hopefully, once Fanfest has been and gone, and there are plenty of pictures Ambulation, you'll understand better what we're trying to achieve drools cant wait for midas too ******************************************** Vitreous Mercoxit ! What else ***************************************
Todd Jaeger Body Count Inc.	Posted - 2008.10.02 00:06:00 - [355] Forget Ambulation!!!!11 OMG FIX TEH LAGZ.....oh wait! you did....what can I ***** about now
ZephyrLexx Caldari Earth Federation Space Forces	Posted - 2008.10.02 00:07:00 - [356] Originally by: W3370Pi4 Originally by: CCP Atropos Pretty much the above. When Trinity was released, it was an update and expansion on all the ships, stations, etc that were in game at that time. Ambulation is all new content and given the visual quality that we're aiming for, I don't see how feasible having Classic content is. Saying that, nothing is set in stone, but hopefully, once Fanfest has been and gone, and there are plenty of pictures Ambulation, you'll understand better what we're trying to achieve drools cant wait for midas too what is midas?
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong	Posted - 2008.10.02 05:33:00 - [357] midas is the codename for the new expansion.
Amarrian Cougar Amarr Spastic Corp	Posted - 2008.10.02 23:38:00 - [358] I demand the ability to don a trench coat so that I can flash my genitals at the sexy little Achura females. Otherwise I CANCEL. HEAR ME CCP? CANCEL. That is all.
Dom Khavash	Posted - 2008.10.04 10:58:00 - [359] pls make ambulation for linux, thanks.
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong	Posted - 2008.10.05 08:20:00 - [360] maybe you could make it so we can run classic in space but still use ambulation? I'm not saying let classic users use ambulation but in fact have seperate graphics settings for in station and out of station. so I still PvP with classic but use pretty ambulation while docked?

quave Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2008.10.05 18:03:00 - [361] Ambulation is like marmite, you'll either love it, or hate it. Whilst i hate marmite, i am really looking forward to ambulation. it might not have much to add to gameplay at first, but it will grow.
Chonsette	Posted - 2008.10.09 10:51:00 - [362] Pleeeeeaaaase CCP... let us kill people with laser guns in station... it will be a breath of fresh air to kill the station hugging smack talkers.
Tuttomenui II Gallente kungfuhammers	Posted - 2008.10.11 00:39:00 - [363] Originally by: Chonsette Pleeeeeaaaase CCP... let us kill people with laser guns in station... it will be a breath of fresh air to kill the station hugging smack talkers. Yeah give us module slots on our bodies with a few rigg slots and give us personal modules so we can tank said laser guns. "DoorWay Camp in sector 3 be advised".. If you get killed in station at a DoorWay camp it will be called Dank instead of gank lol. Of course I wonder what concord bots in station will be like and how hard will it be to suicide dank.
Kleaner Kelly ALLIED TACTICAL TECHNOLOGIES Collective Asylum	Posted - 2008.10.11 17:26:00 - [364] Caldari/Gallente bar fights. "What's the difference between a Gallente and a dog?" "I dunno." "The dog isn't stupid! lololololol" "You son of a ****! My grandmother is Gallente!" Bottles being broken* "I'll kill you!" _______________________ Sup. I'm an Alt.
Kavin Alavandar The Hidden Court	Posted - 2008.10.13 01:46:00 - [365] Originally by: MotherMoon maybe you could make it so we can run classic in space but still use ambulation? I'm not saying let classic users use ambulation but in fact have seperate graphics settings for in station and out of station. so I still PvP with classic but use pretty ambulation while docked? Something tells me that if you have trouble with Premium, Ambulation will murder you, your family, your pets, your ****roaches, and your microbes. _______________________________________________ 'The illiterate of this century are not those who cannot read and write; but those who cannot learn, unlearn, and relearn.'
Dass Gus	Posted - 2008.10.14 14:27:00 - [366] And what about motherships and titans pilots, did they have access to their own captain quarter ?
Mhaerdirne Solveig Minmatar	Posted - 2008.10.14 15:43:00 - [367] Originally by: Tuttomenui II Imagine 10 years from now this game still going strong and when you want to capture a outpost you have to bored it and fight with your charactors like in Battlefeild 2142, take down certain consoles and capture the control room. "Medic!!"... "Medic!"... "Need Resupply!"... "AMMO!!".. "Requesting Supply Drop!"... "Requesting EMP STrike!!"... "Requesting Artillery!!"... "Sniper Spotted!!"... It would be sweet if eve was like eternal silence in that. Signature removed. Text is showing as "Signature no longer available" and filesize is well in excess of the allowed 400 x 120 pixels. Navigator
Charnivale Villains	Posted - 2008.10.16 09:18:00 - [368] I cant wait. Hey! i have a idea! What if we got a /dance function that makes us dance like silly little rabbits! Also. I want musical instruments! So that when we walk in a corridor. Suddenly! youre being happy surprised by 3 minmatars in robes playing flutes and stomping their feets. yay Then also: I wants robes. I like robes, and pointy hats! Also! a potion store where you buy potions! That gives you mana, and we need something to use mana for. I suggest we introduce magical lightballs that use mana! This is yay. For sure. I have other hawt suggestions as well: -Rename market to auction house -New race with pointy ears! -New race wich is small and grumpy -New profession: Flower picking! I want to run around picking flowers and then deliver them to the potionstore to make mana potions! -And more! This is good! This is the right way for EVE to go!
Nautsyn Thome Minmatar Shark Investments	Posted - 2008.10.17 08:33:00 - [369] Originally by: Charnivale I cant wait. Hey! i have a idea! What if we got a /dance function that makes us dance like silly little rabbits! Also. I want musical instruments! So that when we walk in a corridor. Suddenly! youre being happy surprised by 3 minmatars in robes playing flutes and stomping their feets. yay Then also: I wants robes. I like robes, and pointy hats! Also! a potion store where you buy potions! That gives you mana, and we need something to use mana for. I suggest we introduce magical lightballs that use mana! This is yay. For sure. I have other hawt suggestions as well: -Rename market to auction house -New race with pointy ears! -New race wich is small and grumpy -New profession: Flower picking! I want to run around picking flowers and then deliver them to the potionstore to make mana potions! -And more! This is good! This is the right way for EVE to go! ur stuff, i can haz them?
Vladimir Ilych Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2008.10.17 12:19:00 - [370] Just read the blurb on the new expansion. I thought the winter expansion this year was gonna be ambulation? CCP can we have a rough time scale please?



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