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This is the furthest thing from a witch hunt.

With this witch hunt all you people have started. Please remember that you also will reap what you sow. If you push so hard for Mittens to get banned please don't wine when CCP bans you for something they consider bulling in game. If you think that this witch hunt will only affect him and no one else you are sadly a fool.

Most of us are geeks playing eve.
Most of us have been bullied, infact that what makes us the worst bullies of all.
The bullied are the worst bullies because they feel that since they were once the victim they can't do any thing wrong.

Hence the Flaming of Mittani. We are all taking our being bullied frustrations on him.

So what have you done for the victim?
I was able to find him, offered to sit on guard in an Ospray with reps encase gankers came. and offered while I had the standing to keep attacking a GSC to summon the concord till my standing was no longer. I was told that was not needed. So I left. But I have left an offer to call me if he needed help in the future... Leaving him a GÇ£markerGÇ¥

Am I saying what the Mittani did was over the top. Yes!
I also think a goon mind set was in place when he put the slide show together, with out removing the name of the individual from the post- (a goon needs an internet space ship face on his victim.)
I also think the combination of Alcohol and per pressure to be the goon leader in front of his fellow goons in the audience caused his over the top reaction to go after a victim.

Personally I think that at Fan Feast anyone doing any formal presentation must be sober during those presentation. Which includes Alliance panel. Any Presentation involving the Live Stream needs to have an active moderator on stand by to circumvent the repeat of what happened.

So what can we do to prevent this from happening again:

No sharing of personal information.
No Alcohol on any formal panel. The Alliance Leadership Panel is now to be seen as an official panel.
A CCP representative now aware of what to look leading the panel especially if it will be live streamed.


Banning Mittens?.. is punishing the symptom not fixing the problem. As there will always be another mittens just under a different name.

You literally cannot be this stupid.

if you remove the cause then you remove the effect.

The Mittani has felt bad about his actions. and had paid 11 Bill in isk to the victim and wrote a public letter of apology realizing his wrong doing..

Many people in several threads have threated or wished ill will of Mittani over the last few days... should we ban them too?

but all that is meaning less... we need to hit the cause of the problem not the symptom..

do not post personal information with in Eve. it is even in the TOS.

Your response lacks substance, was it too hard for you to understand? Or do you simply not have any valid argument?

if you remove the cause then you remove the effect.

The Mittani has felt bad about his actions. and had paid 11 Bill in isk to the victim and wrote a public letter of apology realizing his wrong doing..

Many people in several threads have threated or wished ill will of Mittani over the last few days... should we ban them too?

but all that is meaning less... we need to hit the cause of the problem not the symptom..

do not post personal information with in Eve. it is even in the TOS.

Okay, I actually watched the panel conversation. Alex (aka Mittens) clearly didn't plan to discuss one (of 22) character names of the player who tried to lay the guilt trip on Goonswarm for their hunting ice miners. He just blurted it out as an afterthought to a question at the very end of the session.

None of us knows whether this character has real-life mental health issues or not. We don't even know his true identity (unlike The Mittani). We cannot act as though every interaction with such an anonymous player should be considered a serious real-life issue.

As I wrote elsewhere, The Mattani showed horrible judgment by allowing himself to get this drunk in a public forum when he represents a player base. He appears to be immature and unprofessional. He came across as someone who thinks he is way smarter than he really is. Maybe he's that way all the time; maybe it's the way he thinks he is supposed to be when he's playing "Mittens" in front of a crowd. In any case, he needs some serious self-reflection, without a doubt.

These are not, however, sufficient reasons to force him out of his role as a CSM member. He isn't a CCP employee; he does not represent the company. There are no stated qualifications related to maturity, grace, and good judgment for him to remain in this role. He's been elected, and although he demonstrated zero sensibility, he is still qualified to fulfill his role as a CSM member. Don't like this? Then vote for someone else next time.

if you remove the cause then you remove the effect.

The Mittani has felt bad about his actions. and had paid 11 Bill in isk to the victim and wrote a public letter of apology realizing his wrong doing..

Many people in several threads have threated or wished ill will of Mittani over the last few days... should we ban them too?

but all that is meaning less... we need to hit the cause of the problem not the symptom..

do not post personal information with in Eve. it is even in the TOS.

11 billion is nothing to his alliance. Where do you think that isk came from? Mission running? CCP, Do something already. It can't take this long to look at what he did... EULA

He's had a lot of influence, and it's not the first time under his rule that the goons have laughed about suicide or nazism... How far can that go?.

Okay, I actually watched the panel conversation. Alex (aka Mittens) clearly didn't plan to discuss one (of 22) character names of the player who tried to lay the guilt trip on Goonswarm for their hunting ice miners. He just blurted it out as an afterthought to a question at the very end of the session.

None of us knows whether this character has real-life mental health issues or not. We don't even know his true identity (unlike The Mittani). We cannot act as though every interaction with such an anonymous player should be considered a serious real-life issue.

These are not, however, sufficient reasons to force him out of his role as a CSM member. He isn't a CCP employee; he does not represent the company. There are no stated qualifications related to maturity, grace, and good judgment for him to remain in this role. He's been elected, and although he demonstrated zero sensibility, he is still qualified to fulfill his role as a CSM member. Don't like this? Then vote for someone else next time.

He resigned, can we now move on from this? I'd really like to get back to GD being about spaceships, not space BS.

UPDATE 2012.03.27.17:37

According to a notable game news media outlet, Mittani has expressed his intention to resign! Hopefully, EVE Online will be a better place without him. Hopefully, CSM could stand proud under the new leadership.

And for those who are disappointed, do not despair! Goons will prevail under better leadership

I could care less if he resigned or not.
I want to see what CCP makes out of public harrasement.

He resigned, can we now move on from this? I'd really like to get back to GD being about spaceships, not space BS.

I could care less if he resigned or not.
I want to see what CCP makes out of public harrasement.

Thing is - the damage is done and that can't be undone. Again, if you let sh*t to happen, you should clean the sh*ts yourself. There were bunch of drunk peoples on that video - don't call the devil ...
But, at the end, nothing will be changed because many (as I see) find this entertaining.

CCP doesn't _need_ to do anything.

The news story is now "Drunken fool resigns CSM Chair after calling for players to harass someone." This will defuse the media "storm". If it doesn't - but my gut tells me this is enough - he can still resign from the CSM altogether.

This threadnaught is dead to me now.